The "Worst" of a Beloved Roadster - Mazda MX-5 NC Review

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  • Опубліковано 7 кві 2024
  • The Mazda MX-5 is an icon of its class. With its lightweight well distributed build and planted handling combined with some winding country roads, you couldn't fathom a more fun car to drive. In today's video, I've been fortunate enough to get hold of an MX-5 NC for a day. Admittedly not the generation held in the highest regard.
    Is this maligned generation of the beloved roadster really that bad? Or could it possibly hold some surprises for us? In today's video, I endeavour to find out.
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  • @CaiKeys
    @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +15

    Alright everyone, hope you enjoyed this video, I sure enjoyed driving the mazda.
    The MX5 is ace, quite frankly. Never really felt as though it lacked power as many people say it does, but the surprisingly neutral handling is what won it for me. A fantastic thing to take down the B roads.

    • @007JHS
      @007JHS 20 днів тому

      Hear hear!

  • @nolahahnshouse3389
    @nolahahnshouse3389 Місяць тому +18

    I wish people would stop saying the nc is the worst Mx-5/Miata I could be one of the best honestly.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +6

      I completely agree, it's a brilliant car. I think lots of it comes from people who haven't driven one thinking it's going to be boatlike and floaty on account of its exterior design. Hope you enjoyed.

  • @JohnnyRocketJewellery
    @JohnnyRocketJewellery Місяць тому +6

    Great review! I lived in the UK for 30 years + and had a variety of British classics Triumphs, Lotus, Mini& MGs. They all had their quirks and charms, but reliability was always an issue. Despite my extensive mechanical skills they always had a moment when they let you down. The MGBGT was the best of them, but even it was in the shadow of the MX5 NC1. What a sports car!! Handles better than a Lotus, and you never have to apply the spanner’s too much. The notchiness in 1st- 2nd is down to wear on the nylon selector restrictor around the gearstick. A very simple fix. The gearbox is a treat when you address that. I use mine as a daily and I think it’s possibly the best sports car I’ve ever owned. Forget your Porsche, your Z3 & 4 this is the answer

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +1

      The fact that my main gripe with the car can be fixed dead easily is testament to what a great car it is. Having owned an MG midget myself, it's nice to have a car which actually starts up in the morning, nothing depresses you like intending to go out on a nice sunny day and finding you've broken down for some unknown reason. Thanks for watching, hope you enjoyed

  • @PyroPlays
    @PyroPlays Місяць тому +6

    This is a cracking review!
    I own an NB (Mk2) MX-5 and it feels a little more fun than the NC, on a nice sunny day, when you're on a B road, that isn't full of potholes, AKA 5% of the time. The other 95% of the time the NC feels like a nicer place to be, more creature comforts, less NVH etc etc. They're different cars, the NA and NB feel like classics, the NC feels like one of the most fun modern cars you can buy, and now that you can get them for £2000, they're an absolute bargain. Good review my friend 👍

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for watching, really appreciate the support - I'd love to give the NB a drive, despite not really having as large a weight difference as people often assume, they do have smaller proportions and I can see them being a little bit more stripped back and less refined than an NC, more like a classic roadster. If I'm able to find one to review, I'll be sure to compare the two. Cheers!

    • @PyroPlays
      @PyroPlays Місяць тому +1

      @@CaiKeys Spot on there, I think it's less about the weight and more about the levels of refinement. Of course, there is still a slight weight difference between the two. Looking forward to seeing a comparison if you get chance, unfortunately I'm a few hours away from you, there's plenty of NAs and NBs if you join the FB groups that I'm sure would be willing to let you review!

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +1

      @@PyroPlays that makes sense to me, a comparison is most certainly on the books, I'll have a look round some groups and see about borrowing one!

  • @cptndave1
    @cptndave1 Місяць тому +2

    Had mine for eight years. Loved every minute of it. Sold with in two weeks for more than I paid for it. Even while I was in the process of paperwork of selling I still had other buyers.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +1

      They're popular for a reason! Cheers for watching

  • @TheKsharm
    @TheKsharm Місяць тому +3

    The 1.8 NC is a little slow, but you aren't getting speeding tickets so easily.
    Also, with heated seats and the heat from the transmission tunnel means that as long as it's dry even a 5c drive will be fine as long as you have a hat on.

  • @SeanPensive
    @SeanPensive Місяць тому +6

    2 litre is a must. 1.8 just isn't enough.
    Beat the 2.0 properly, and it's pretty quick cross country. A momentum corner car.
    The back end isnt glued to the floor at all!! You can trigger TC often. Its a good system.
    NC is more civilised and usable.
    Leave power standard and rev it harder!!

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +3

      Thanks for watching, I think the power in the 2.0 is adequate, and can imagine the 1.8 being a tad underpowered- re: the rear end, I did find the rear end remarkably planted, even when driven hard, it definitely felt confident enough to keep an awful lot of momentum up compared to the impression I'd been given, that multilink and open diff certainly helps. Definitely one of the more lenient TCS systems out there too. Hope you enjoyed

    • @SeanPensive
      @SeanPensive Місяць тому +3

      @@CaiKeys LSD adds to it. You start adding throttle earlier and earlier as you come out of corners. Super controllable.
      Great video!

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +2

      @@SeanPensive I bet, I can certainly see an LSD helping when pushing the car to the limit. This MX5 is the first RWD lightweight car I've driven, and I was very pleasantly surprised by the whole experience. Can't wait to drive some more similar cars and see just how well the NC stacks up, but it's certainly set a high bar. Thanks for watching!

  • @mapwheel00
    @mapwheel00 Місяць тому +7

    I think you spoiled yourself by driving the NC first. It's an absolute gem and doesn't get the love it deserves. You were right to conclude it has very few faults for what it is and the price you can get one at.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +2

      I think you're right, I really wanted to find something to genuinely criticise, but simply couldn't find anything major . Thanks for watching!

    • @mapwheel00
      @mapwheel00 Місяць тому +2

      @@CaiKeys If you ever get the chance to look underneath one, they are really cool. Everything is way overbuilt for a much heavier car, because as you noted, the platform was shared with the RX-8.

  • @UnseenSpirit
    @UnseenSpirit Місяць тому +6

    I'm looking at getting a NC1 and have been watching a lot of videos on YT. Not even viewed one yet though lol. Gonna view one on wed. I'll be looking out for rust which seems to be a big issue on them

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +3

      They are absolutely fantastic cars, but definitely be really careful of rust-keep the underside clean especially in winter, and if you have the facilities, protect underneath with something like lanoguard (wouldn't use anything opaque like Waxoyl, though,as it can make things worse.) really hope you enjoyed.

    • @UnseenSpirit
      @UnseenSpirit Місяць тому +2

      @@CaiKeys thanks. I've read about some cars having waxyoyl on adverts. Why is it bad? Does it trap moisture in?

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +2

      @@UnseenSpirit Black Waxoyl is obviously opaque and as a result, if you've got any existing moisture or rust when you apply it, it can trap the moisture and the rust problem can get significantly worse. Because it's black, you can't actually see it get worse until its too late. It's also hard to remove and tends to crack with age, letting moisture in.
      Something like lanoguard or clear Waxoyl is better because you can actually see the metal underneath. Personally, I use lanoguard. Need to apply it each year but you can see straight through it and it protects the car from rust pretty well.

    • @Oldladysgin
      @Oldladysgin Місяць тому +1

      Rust is a huge issue with these cars, they rust and even some of the newer ones will have it.
      Look really carefully and especially at the front chassis rails! Look very carefully indeed.
      The NB was by far the worst and all models can get blocked drain holes and rust inside out.
      Look deep and reject any that are in the least suspect.

  • @oldatarigamer
    @oldatarigamer 29 днів тому +2

    8X Car and Driver Top 10 Cars -- more than any other generation of MX-5.

  • @Mx5modified
    @Mx5modified Місяць тому +4

    Great video! Nc to see loads more people doing Nc related content 😁

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for watching, really glad you enjoyed!

  • @robtt997
    @robtt997 Місяць тому +4

    From a safety point of view the NC is way ahead the NA and NB .

  • @Midnight.k1
    @Midnight.k1 Місяць тому +5

    Great review! 🎉

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +3

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed!

  • @S-Ltd1000
    @S-Ltd1000 Місяць тому +5

    Apart from the roof coming down the micra cc and the ford Ka are not in the remotest like an mx5.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +1

      That's the issue I faced unfortunately, being a new channel I've only so many comparisons from experience that I can actually make.

    • @S-Ltd1000
      @S-Ltd1000 Місяць тому +2

      @@CaiKeys I had an NC 2.0 and two NAs one of which I've now owned for 8 years. NC is the better all-rounder but the NA is more fun to drive.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +1

      @@S-Ltd1000 an NA or an NB is certainly on the 'to do' list, a lot of comments seem to be suggesting that the NA/NB are a bit more fun to drive than the more refined NC, and I can certainly see why that may be the case. Thanks for watching!

    • @smithp573
      @smithp573 7 днів тому

      The StreetKa and MX5 share the love of rusting away from the inside out.

  • @A_Manc_Abroad
    @A_Manc_Abroad Місяць тому +4

    I really enjoyed the review

  • @JustDrivingMX5
    @JustDrivingMX5 17 днів тому +1

    Here anorher NC owner, if i lhave to get a new car, i will choose an NC again. I'm pretty sure that all the bad things that people says it has, comes from people whe never have driven it. Just because is "bigger" and "heavier".. just because about the numbers.. but It's also more powerfull that makes that difference totally unpercrptible. But there's a real difference between NA, NB and NC.. and is the evidence of the different generations, wich means that the NC is a modern car, that looks like a modern car, more space, more comfortable, but still have the NA/NB behaviour. They really made a GREAT job. ND is just a smaller NC, less space, less comfort, but still have all modern things that the NC have, but just because is "smaller" , people says that back to their origins. In my opinion, they should keep the NC size for the ND, both still being small cars btw.

  • @quentinstacy35
    @quentinstacy35 Місяць тому +2

    There's a Japanese Eunos badge for the NA that looks a lot like a Lotus badge.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому

      That may well be it, though I'm sure there's a bloke near me with an actual lotus badge on his. He is however, a lotus fanatic. I'll have to have a walk and see, cheers!

  • @jjeaton3526
    @jjeaton3526 Місяць тому +2

    Loving the videos. Might be able to help with an nb but it was only £800 😂

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому

      Thanks, glad you enjoy them! Would be very interested in reviewing an NB if that's something you'd potentially be able to help with - well-used examples are always the most fun!

  • @Ifitwerks
    @Ifitwerks Місяць тому +2

    More than likely the clutch needed adjustment at the pedal, as even factory these are set too low and both my NC2s were the same after adjusting the height gear selection is easier, very common for these. Plus gearbox and turret lubrication needs proper maintenance.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому

      Great advice, I'll pass that on to David who lent me the car. Thanks for watching!

  • @MarriedToTheKGB
    @MarriedToTheKGB Місяць тому +4

    Great cars based on a Lotus Elan for inspiration I was told years ago

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +4

      That's right, an awful lot of inspiration was taken by mazda from the idea of the British sports car - EG the MGB, Triumph spitfire, and perhaps most importantly, as you said, the Elan. Fantastic cars. Thanks for watching

  • @themancuniancandidate2744
    @themancuniancandidate2744 7 днів тому

    I had a 2007 NC hardtop last year, and it was brilliant. I paid $14kAUD for it, and it ran like a Swiss watch despite over 200k kms on the clock. It was hard to justify spending twice as much on an ND, but I eventually traded it and bought a 2017 ND RF with very low kms (15000) a couple of months ago. But I've never understood the hate the NC gets from some MX5 enthusiasts (snobs might be better word). It's hardly big, hardly heavy, and it's a much better car than either the NA or the NB. As a cheap entry into MX5 ownership I think the NC is hard to beat.

  • @vishnujmohan5089
    @vishnujmohan5089 Місяць тому +2

    You earned a new sub ❤

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому

      Thanks, glad you're enjoying the content!

  • @Oldladysgin
    @Oldladysgin Місяць тому +1

    As for the gearchange try pausing as you go through neutral, just briefly, it works. Across the box changes are best, no point in moving the lever to a gear you are not going to use.
    The gearchanges can be baulky when cold as well, but again the slight pause works.
    NBs rust, all of them and NCs can be equally as bad......the former can be the front chasses rails so choose carefully.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому

      I'll definitely give that a go when I'm next in an NC - as for NB front chassis rail rust, my god I've seen some where you can see down to the floor, they really are terrible for it!

  • @DecadesVideos
    @DecadesVideos Місяць тому +4

    For the algo

  • @FJB8646
    @FJB8646 Місяць тому +2

    I personally think it’s the best but I don’t care for the NC1 or NC2. The NC3 is great!

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому

      What do you prefer about the NC3? General consensus is its the better car, but unfortunately I've not really had much experience with 2 seater roadsters, being a new channel and that. Thanks for watching!

    • @FJB8646
      @FJB8646 Місяць тому +1

      @@CaiKeys the forged internals, better looking front and rear bumper, bump in horse power, better looking console.

    • @Ifitwerks
      @Ifitwerks Місяць тому +4

      @@FJB8646 All the major engine revisions came with the NC2 , forged crank, valve train and pistons etc and the increased redline.

    • @stevecrawford7814
      @stevecrawford7814 Місяць тому +1

      I need the extra space in the NC, my NA is much smaller and very basic.

    • @FJB8646
      @FJB8646 Місяць тому

      @@Ifitwerks I wasn’t sure on that but I like the fog light frames in the NC3 better

  • @smithp573
    @smithp573 7 днів тому

    NA definitely didn’t have traction control. NB same. The NB2 I had (a 1.8 non-Sport) definitely didn’t have TC either. Pretty sure the NC was the first MX5 to get it. If you want slow, try a late NA 1.6 (like a Monza special edition), they’re sweet handlers but good grief they’re slow.

  • @alexhoward8152
    @alexhoward8152 Місяць тому +3

    Do a Citroen C3 next!

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому

      Where could I find one of those? 🤔

  • @Fizhy
    @Fizhy Місяць тому +4

    De Mazda

  • @user-mw9xu5ql7m
    @user-mw9xu5ql7m Місяць тому +3

    God bless

  • @lordwalker71
    @lordwalker71 16 днів тому

    I think it’s the best looking Miata

  • @arricammarques1955
    @arricammarques1955 Місяць тому +1

    Very misleading tagline. NC3 2.0 wipes the floor with the majority of roadsters.

    • @CaiKeys
      @CaiKeys  Місяць тому +2

      Misleading tagine in a way I suppose, I've noticed the NC has gained an unfair, undeserved reputation amongst many car enthusiasts, which I set out to analyse and ultimately dispel - I'm certainly not calling the NC the worst MX5 by any means, I think it's an excellent vehicle - thanks for watching!

  • @petpan74
    @petpan74 11 годин тому

    I typed this after you compared the mx5 to the street KA and nissan, then stopped watching.

  • @JAYJAYJAY53
    @JAYJAYJAY53 9 днів тому

    U lost at that tired beat out boat crap

  • @mikenewbold1699
    @mikenewbold1699 Місяць тому

    gay