Yes, looks like the CG was off. I maiden my Corsair this week and she was tail heavy. She was reacting the same way this P-51 was. I added more weight to the nose and she flew like a charm.
Way way way too tail heavy. Most important thing to do before flying a new plane is to check & double check the CG. Nose heavy ok... tail heavy is a crash waiting to happen. Fix & fly again!
Is this an arf ? Or kit ? That hit hard! And stayed running ? Great build I love the mustang and spitfire have had less violent impact totally destroy them im not sure I agree that it was tail heavy looked like he maybe pulled too much elevator and luckily had just enough speed to get airborne. These warbirds are Notorious For rough landings.sometimeseven if you grease the set down the darn things nose over or cartwheel. Anyway hopefully its back up a flying. Thanks for sharing
What a shame, that is a lovely model with some great detail, i love the picture of the pilots other half on the control panel. I hope you can fix it and get it back flying soon.
Dan K Physics changes when the plane is its wingspan length from the ground. Represented in this equation. L=Ci*r*1\2V2A L is Lift, Ci Lift Coefficient(weather), r is density, 1/2Velocity(squared) times A(wingspan)
Don't ever maiden on a windy day. Stand behind your aircraft on take off - screw who ever says you can't. No ground speed - means no flight speed - get your speed up and let it run, do not ever take off if the tail is not off the ground - do not rush your takeoffs and as always - check your balance. Warbirds are notorious for tip stalling so you better know what a rudder is for.
@@sheara13 I did. Didn't you hear me? You said screw whoever says you can't. I then said you can't. Your reply was SUPPOSED to be "screw you". It wasn't. You have really disappointed me.
def looks tail heavy at take off. I've been there, fought it all the way around for a landing. was a pucker moment for sure. i check mine now each day at the field. some weight had fallen off and i didn't realize it
It's all about knowing which Wings far to put your finger under and I know that can be difficult because everybody's got a different idea about where to check Weight and Balance but the fact is you have to find out where that key point is on the aircraft so you and your buddy can balance it and if you have any ideas that it may be neutral or tail heavy you need to put some weight in the tale for the meantime. Then after it flies well and doesn't porpoise you can start pulling weight slowly away from the tail
When you take off and you notice you have an aft CG, land immediately. The longer you stay up the more fuel you burn and push that CG even further aft. This accident should never have happened.
Francis absolutely, I believe so. But these Mustangs like to be flown all the way down to the runway too. Likely a combination of tail heavy and slowing too much. I feel bad for the pilot!
General rule to fly war birds - always have a good speed, this is not a funfly 3d plane, have a good speed on landing and try to land without flaps, look like you loose too mach speed and flaps was not compensating with elevator mix. Also check CG, looks like tail heavy.
I’m guessing you may not be an RC flyer. In any case, this pilot has flown successfully for many years. Mustangs, even set up and balanced properly, can be a handful.
His first abort landing with power up and abrupt high angle left turn suggest to me that the pilot is not as familar with warbirds, or just a bad habit
Landing without flaps??? Bad idea!!!! To slow an approach flaps up and it stalled. And being tail heavy only made your situation worse. It’s a WAR BIRD you have to land flaps down power on.
Not if you have a good head wind. He had a nose high attitude, slow, heavy handed on ailerons, and possibly tail heavy. The plane may be a bit much for the pilots skill level. I always leave the flaps up if it is windy.
From the way it was flying right after takeoff - i think your CG was too far back. That crash was painful to watch...and hear. Must've been really bad for you - I'm sorry. If that happens again and you don't notice until you're airborne, land faster!
Yes, looks like the CG was off. I maiden my Corsair this week and she was tail heavy. She was reacting the same way this P-51 was. I added more weight to the nose and she flew like a charm.
Try your best to get the cg right, nose heavy is better than tail heavy.
Just beautiful and sounds great. Some of the best detail work on cockpit I have seen.
Way way way too tail heavy. Most important thing to do before flying a new plane is to check & double check the CG. Nose heavy ok... tail heavy is a crash waiting to happen. Fix & fly again!
Agree...you can see it a take off, the tail never picked up to level, a clear sign the tail is heavy .
So much effort in build and detail. So little effort on c.o.g and tuning. Shame
... and after he she burned off some fuel... got even more tail heavy :(
Is this an arf ? Or kit ? That hit hard! And stayed running ?
Great build I love the mustang and spitfire have had less violent impact totally destroy them im not sure I agree that it was tail heavy looked like he maybe pulled too much elevator and luckily had just enough speed to get airborne.
These warbirds are Notorious
For rough landings.sometimeseven if you grease the set down the darn things nose over or cartwheel.
Anyway hopefully its back up a flying.
Thanks for sharing
It's not tail heavy he had a low speed stall. Typical of scale warbirds.
Jesus man. 2 crashes in a year on film due to being tail heavy. Do u balance these birds or just say fuck it
Let's fly
What a shame, that is a lovely model with some great detail, i love the picture of the pilots other half on the control panel. I hope you can fix it and get it back flying soon.
THATS NOT A CRASH!! Just a bad landing. Could have been worst! Good job on the save!
Hope you were able to fix it. Sounds like the engine may have been running a bit rough.
My experience with mustangs is beware of to slow, will tip stall and flip every time. Balance is critical do not fly tail heavy!
Dan K Physics changes when the plane is its wingspan length from the ground. Represented in this equation. L=Ci*r*1\2V2A L is Lift, Ci Lift Coefficient(weather), r is density, 1/2Velocity(squared) times A(wingspan)
Way tail heavy
My H 9 p47 same thing but got her back ok. Added 4 ozs to the engine mount flys great.
Shit, where I fly that would be considered a good landing. Looks like it's still good for another flight or 2, I'm sure you'd agree!
Now look what you have done!!! You owe me $799
Nice looking Mustang got afew kinks to work out but fix her up and get it back up in the air 👍
Don't ever maiden on a windy day. Stand behind your aircraft on take off - screw who ever says you can't. No ground speed - means no flight speed - get your speed up and let it run, do not ever take off if the tail is not off the ground - do not rush your takeoffs and as always - check your balance. Warbirds are notorious for tip stalling so you better know what a rudder is for.
You can't stand behind your plane on take off.
@@shelbyseelbach9568 Of course you can. Who said you couldn't ??
@@sheara13 I did. Didn't you hear me? You said screw whoever says you can't. I then said you can't. Your reply was SUPPOSED to be "screw you". It wasn't. You have really disappointed me.
def looks tail heavy at take off. I've been there, fought it all the way around for a landing. was a pucker moment for sure. i check mine now each day at the field. some weight had fallen off and i didn't realize it
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It's all about knowing which Wings far to put your finger under and I know that can be difficult because everybody's got a different idea about where to check Weight and Balance but the fact is you have to find out where that key point is on the aircraft so you and your buddy can balance it and if you have any ideas that it may be neutral or tail heavy you need to put some weight in the tale for the meantime. Then after it flies well and doesn't porpoise you can start pulling weight slowly away from the tail
Man the P51 seems to have the most unforgiving wing at too low speeds.
When you take off and you notice you have an aft CG, land immediately. The longer you stay up the more fuel you burn and push that CG even further aft. This accident should never have happened.
No accident should ever happen, they are all AVOIDABLE.
Tail heavy and you went with no flaps? That's a bit weird
a bit tail heavy perhaps?
Francis absolutely, I believe so. But these Mustangs like to be flown all the way down to the runway too. Likely a combination of tail heavy and slowing too much. I feel bad for the pilot!
That plane is tail heavy
Dave hope you had a great Christmas and hope you are doing well,we need to find a way to talk other than this!
Yeah I meant to say add weight to the nose. Duh
Damn, all that and no fireball.
Looks pretty tail heavy.
Flaps on or not.. it was tail heavy and the end was inevitable.
General rule to fly war birds - always have a good speed, this is not a funfly 3d plane, have a good speed on landing and try to land without flaps, look like you loose too mach speed and flaps was not compensating with elevator mix. Also check CG, looks like tail heavy.
Some should let someone who knows how to fly test their toy planes!
I’m guessing you may not be an RC flyer. In any case, this pilot has flown successfully for many years. Mustangs, even set up and balanced properly, can be a handful.
His first abort landing with power up and abrupt high angle left turn suggest to me that the pilot is not as familar with warbirds, or just a bad habit
Looks tailheavy
That crash was best case scenario, it could've been way worse.
Damn that sucks.
Too nose heavy of a plane will fly ok. A tail heavy plane will fly once.
What brand is the plane and engine
Charlie Brown Hangar 9 , DLE 20cc
Thanks. did the guy fix it
CG and the spinner both seemed wrong.
Nice
Landing without flaps??? Bad idea!!!! To slow an approach flaps up and it stalled. And being tail heavy only made your situation worse. It’s a WAR BIRD you have to land flaps down power on.
Not if you have a good head wind. He had a nose high attitude, slow, heavy handed on ailerons, and possibly tail heavy. The plane may be a bit much for the pilots skill level. I always leave the flaps up if it is windy.
Flaps are for no wind situations. The higher the wing the less flaps are needed.
rudder instead of ailerons would have prevented that
From the way it was flying right after takeoff - i think your CG was too far back. That crash was painful to watch...and hear. Must've been really bad for you - I'm sorry. If that happens again and you don't notice until you're airborne, land faster!
Been there,
So why do people NOT BALANCE THE MODEL>>>>>??? And mustangs must be flown to the ground. You cant' drag one in by stretching it ...they land HOT
Tail heavy........end of comment.
Dommage un beau avion
Dle 20cc is wayy to small and light
Oop's
Tail heavy , way tail heavy