You get the implication tho, right? Knives are usually used by people in harmful ways. The Doctor didn't kill anyone with the knife, (in fact I'd have to go back and check but was it the Doctor that actually used the knife? I'm starting to think not) rather sshe just saved someone with it, showing that they are good, but not often
@@britanimations2002 To pull one out to save someone, she had to be CARRYING one. Which is what she specifically said a person was an idiot for doing, she said nothing about the knife carriers intentions with said knife.
The biggest problem for me was that it wasn't fun. Sure doctor who had its writing inconsistencies, but there was never a season that was completely B O R I N G, until there was. Nearing the last episodes of season 11, I wasn't thinking "oooh let's see what's happening this week" but rather "let's get this over with". It makes me sad.
i would argue that some where after the first reboot season it got boring but thats just me. i think that some where along the line ( it was mat smith for me ) fans get disillusioned with the show it probably has to do with when the viewer originally started watching.
I agree entirely, and Whitaker never solidified herself as the Doctor in my opinion. She was fine but too fluid a character to have any real traits. You need to COMMIT to YOUR Doctor. Thats what makes the different performances so good
IMO NuWho has been "fun" - in quotes, meaning that it elbows me in the ribs with cues to how exciting and whimsical it is supposed to be. The quick editing, flashy visuals, overbearing adventure-serial score, annoying catchphrases, fanwank myth-spinning. I LOVE that series 11 has dispensed with all of those things. But unfortunately, that step in the right direction is undermined by the stories and writing we got being rather half-baked.
It's evil to kill spiders, but then there's 'Kerblam!'... where it's okay to kill a kid. I really don't understand Thirteen yet and I don't think the writers do either.
@@FluffyBunniesOnFire understandable. i actually enjoyed that episode so i did watch it a couple times, so it makes sense i would remember a detail like that.
@PikaCinema There was no reason to tell them to open the parcels in the first place. Once the deliveries were redirected, the parcels could have been collected and disposed of safely. The robots were just doing their programmed job and didn't need to be destroyed. Considering the robophobia accusation the Doctor threw out earlier in the episode, it seemed a particularly awful resolution to me. She might have tried to call Charlie to safety, but considering the only reason to have an explosion was the episode title, I think attributing his death to her (via poor writing) is totally fair.
The spider episode especially felt they were trying to force familiarity with the character of the Doctor, i.e. no killing, no guns; however it was just so forced as well as completely missing the mark in terms of being humane.
She also could have just saved the spiders, like, they were made by normal earth scientists and the Doctor is an alien with a time machine that can also teleport. Figure out how to correct the genes, and then drop them off on another planet where giant spiders are normal. You know like he did in "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship."
My problem with series 11 is that it was so boring. The Doctor is just nebulously good, her companions are just nebulously good. Everyone who disagrees with the Doctor is bad. There's no interesting moral conflicts between the characters or in general. When the show does get close to having one they ultimately ruin it by either just cutting it off or having something that just makes no sense. Kerblam is decent up until the ending where it just trips over itself by having a character turn out to be a mad terrorist who wants to kill people and then doesn't, then does again because robots have almost entirely replaced human workforces, and his plan to fix it is to blow up customers with explosive bubble wrap. That's right, bubble wrap. The only other remotely interesting conflict is where Graham wants to kill blue tooth face man for killing Grace, he confides in the Doctor that he wants to do this and feels like he needs to, she then tell him no, don't do that or you can't fly in my box any more. So he doesn't. He 'almost' does but the show has been so bland up to that point that Graham deciding not to kill him is so predictable it's not even funny. Another problem with series 11 is that the Doctor is a massive hypocrite and keeps changing her mind about what she should be doing. She rages at Ryan for picking up a gun and trying to shoot at some mindless, non-sapient, robots. But she has no problem using weapons herself later in the series. She also keeps flip flopping over whether she wants to mess around the timeline of events. It's at its worst in Demons, she takes the whole gang even though it's really only relevant to Jaz. The Doctor tells them they can't play around with time but changes her mind back and forth because her companions decide that they *do* want to mess with the timeline. At the end everything happens as it's supposed to anyway so wasn't even any point really, which describes the demons themselves whose only reason for being there is to watch people die. The only reason series 11 will be remembered is because of the gender swap, aside from that it is just sort of nothingy. It's not even worth getting angry over really. If I was jumping in for the first time, I probably wouldn't watch anymore of the show and I probably would have watched it to the conclusion only because I have nothing else better to do. That's probably the best way to describe series 11.
This is the first series of Doctor Who that I haven't bought on DVD, and have no intention of doing. It wasn't Doctor Who. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't Doctor Who. The episode Rosa seemed like a mediocre episode of Timeless.
@@rattyfan3594 compared to season 10 season 11 feels like a completely different show, which would usually be a good thing for DW, but it isn't in this case. It wasn't fun for me; previously bad episodes were just dumb imo, but they were never boring like they were this season.
That's what happens when you focus on SJW crap. I personally don't agree with having a female doctor but, if you had to have one, I'd prefer one like River Song. I loved her character. Sassy and resourceful. In fact, they should have just spun her off as her own series instead of insisting that the next Doctor had to be female. Wokeness kills everything that's good.
Kerblam! came pretty close to being a true high point for the season, something like a modern-day Sunmakers or Happiness Patrol... but it totally flubbed the landing by taking the position that capitalism is an unqualified good thing. It spends its first two acts highlighting all of the questionable ways Kerblam! treats its workers, only to spend its final act effectively saying, "Nah, it's fine - oh, hey, look, we managed to monsterize bubble wrap as a tribute to the classic series!" Doctor Who is a series that needs to be better than "Well, at least it didn't embarrass itself." I felt like I was watching a season full of "proof-of-concept" pieces - the bulk of which worked, but didn't go anywhere beyond that. Jodie Whittaker is a great actress (and the concept of a female Doctor is one that is frankly overdue), but Chibnall really needs to get someone on board behind the scenes to do some serious script editing for him, someone with vision and bravery... because that was sorely lacking in this most recent season.
Oh yeah, Nitpix pointed that out in his video on Season 11. Even bringing up how Gold would recall certain themes in later seasons to fit at specific moments
I was kind of hoping 13 would be sort of a reverse 12. I feel like every next doctor is a reaction of the last in a major way, like 11 choosing to reject responsibilities and guilt after how unfairly 10 had to die, or how twelve doubled down on being pragmatic and cynical after centuries of being a buffoon before. I guess I was hoping that there would be a sort of double edged sword to 13's extremely fun and awkward personality. Like, if anything upset her bubbly perspective, then there would be a risk of her snapping and showing a side of herself protective of her companions and her own joy to dangerous degrees.
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@@LampDoesVideogame smith was always pulling punches, threatening things with gravitas instead of acting outright. even his anger was elevated and buffoonish. it would be interesting to see 13 have an anger that’s informed by capaldi. quiet, cold, snappy. no diatribes about why she’s hurt, just fierce protection.
This video is a breath of fresh air. I'm highkey tired of those "season 11 bad because WOMAN??" videos popping up in my recommended. I adore the effort you put into your videos Quinton, keep it up!
You're not the only one man. Wish more people on this platform would actually do their job properly as a critic instead of going, "oh worst than we thought, wasn't just women but BLACK PEOPLE. And worst of all... BLACK WOMEN!" Looking at you Nerdrotic
I don't think anyone is really saying that, though, except maybe that Irish guy, 'Computing Forever' or something. Most people disliked it because of how poorly written and acted it was, and how boring it was.
No one is saying that though. Unless they are actual manbabies. Most of it is “we don’t like how forced diversity is taking priority over good writing instead of it being woven in naturally.” Yeah the videos are still overly negative but still.
@@britanimations2002 Why are you looking at him? He isn't saying that. Nor are any other reviewers. They in fact go to great pains to point out they're not because some woketard with an agenda will immediately dismiss any criticism by falsely shouting sexism, raaaacism.
Here’s a note Hartnell made us understand his character within his first 20 minutes. Troughten took one serial to show us that regeneration can work. Pertwee made his impression in 1 episode. Baker managed it within a 5 minute introduction scene. Davison took a while but you always knew where you stood with him. C.Baker did it in his first serial (for better or for worse). McCoy in his first season showed the direction he was going to take his character. McGann has many distinct personas and all feel familiar to me. Eccleston took half an episode and you knew he was wounded. Tennant did it in one monologue after being asleep for the whole episode. Smith again did it in 5 minutes. Capaldi nailed it in the first episode. After 10 episodes, I still do not feel like I understand who she is as the doctor and where her morals truly are.
I only disagree with Davison, they did the same thing with him that is being done with Whittaker aka seemingly a nicer Dr but making him really trigger happy and grouchy at times. 5, and 13 actually have a lot in common when you think about it
The whole thing felt cobbled together at last minute to me - I quite like Jodie and the wider cast and there's bits and pieces of good ideas in there - centring a series around Ryan and Graham grieving over Grace's death and growing closer - but the interesting ideas are so underdeveloped that I never felt like I was going on any kind of journey with these people. Ryan and Graham's growing closer only really happens in a handful of token scenes when the writers remember 'shit we're supposed to be engineering a character arc here' - the most baffling decision of all was putting the episode where they both come to terms with Grace's death and Ryan starts calling Graham Granddad BEFORE the episode where they confront Tim Shaw again and Graham goes 'right I wanna kill him for revenge' - those two episodes needed to go the other way around. it just didn't feel like anyone really thought the structure of this grief arc through
Good to see you stubagful. I do like it takes you away I think it's quite underrated in my opinion but I do agree with you I'm not a fan of the Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos though resolution is the true finalie in my eyes P. S I like your reviews
@@WiloPolis03 That's what I like about Quinton and some other reviewers. They don't put the subject on one side. They talk about what's good about it and what's bad about it. I liked Quinton's video on change in Doctor Who and the one about Twice Upon a Time, an episode I really like but got a lot of backlash because of how Dr. 1 was written (while I actually found a sexist remark in An Unearthly Child - or more specific "The Forest of Fear"), while the episode is so much more than just those comments made by the First Doctor.
To the last two repliers, I definitely agree that the internet has always been this way. But the Doctor Who fanbase used to be a bit less toxic than a lot of other fanbases. Not anymore sadly
"If Graham and Ryan had their own time machine they would stop hanging out with her" is even funnier given that Season 12 ended with them noping out with the psychic paper and having their own adventures without The Doctor lol
I was rooting so hard for this season to succeed but it was just so mediocre and seemed aimed at a younger audience. What annoys me most is that the showrunner/writers' failures are being used by some fans as "proof" that you can have good writing *or* diversity but not both.
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I have to say, It Takes You Away bugged me because of the total non-twist (POSSIBLE SPOILERS) SHOW: Oh look it's people they loved who are dead. VIEWER: Okay they're not real though. SHOW: No, they totally are real! VIEWER: Interesting, what's the deal then? SHOW: Psych! They weren't real!
My main issue with the 13th doctor is the whole "I'm-so-awkward-cause-Im-an-alien" bit. Like the doctor is like 1000+ years old at this point and has shown a level of basic understanding of basically everything. Like even when past doctors did find something new, they never have had a problem integrating fairly convincing. It makes a more interesting character with potentially infinite stories to tell. The new "humor" makes the doctor less interesting and overall makes the show boring
I’m so sad cause I totally feel like they wasted Whitaker. She is a genuinely good actress and if they hadn’t of been so scared for her to express her femininity, or play on the fact that maybe she herself is having a hard time comprehending that she’s a woman now (that would have made a really good first episode) it may have been the best season of doctor who. She’s already proved her acting chops in black mirror, she’s got the talent. Ugh. I hope they do her better next season. One more thing, if they had only focused on historical references in Rosa and demons instead of throwing in sci-fi randomly they would have done much better. Just my opinion.
Agreed. Wouldn't be the first waste of talent, either. Ever since l saw Matt Lucas in literally anything other than DW, l felt like they didn't give him enough jokes. "The Doctor's Butler" can only carry you so far, comedy-wise, imo.
I agree with the last comment It felt like they were trying to bring back the classic pure historical, but weren't allowed so had aliens from the future shoehorned in So close, yet so far
I feel like the mark of a good Doctor is when you can gather their new persona from just their first season, and an excellent Doctor from their first episode/story... and an outstanding Doctor from their first few scenes, case in point, Tom Baker. Unfortunately for me, the Thirteenth Doctor is still a vague mishmash of Ten and Eleven with all quirks from either ironed away and with no real points of interest to herself... in a sense, she's sorta like the Fifth Doctor, but even the Fifth Doctor had his moments of unique character and had an impressive send-off in The Caves of Androzani, though I hope Whittaker will get a good episode before her regeneration story. Maybe her tenure will mirror McCoy's, with the tepid first season and then a more engaging run for the remainder of her time. Or maybe I'm just being hopeful.
To be fair, Capaldi's first season was absolutely terrible and his character was incredibly inconsistent in it. Only in Series 9 did he get into it and he ended up being an absolutely amazing Doctor.
I find the concept of "history too close to comfort" fairly interesting. Like what is the cut off? Why is WWII always that? It reveals a dynamic introduced by periodization that affects our everyday thoughts. It also shows that 'safe' history is automatically devalued as a result. Not that this is a bad thing, but it has consequences. Historiography can get weird
Some people would say that covering a historic event that was so recent that survivors still live to this day, and adding stupid aliens, is too much. I agree.
I think WWII is the cutoff because a most of the people who were adults at the time are dead, and culurally speaking, at least in terms of the West (particularly the UK) it's easy to make it a fairly black and white conflict. Additionally we're so used to WWII in media and it offers a wealth of different scenarios for a science fiction show, that it's a must-do setting. While the Partition of India happened only a couple years after the Second World War, the effects have been felt very directly for generations, it's a historical event where the viewer's home country (at least if you're in the UK) is the villain, and people are oppressed for colonialist reasons, it led to violence killing thousands, and the displacement of millions. I don't think New Who has done too much with the second half of the 20th century up to this season, there was a story revolving around Rose's father in the 80s, and a story that had the Queen's coronation in the 50s as a backdrop, but outside of that, nothing AFAIR.
Well in a time travel show you run into the problem that the Doctor has the capability to stop the Holocaust but decided not to. Which obviously would radically alter history and it wouldn't be connected to our world anymore. The Doctor is not real so she can't take down the British Empire or the Transatlantic slave trade but he can free the Ood and take down space colonialism, and big historical injustices call uncomfortable attention to this.
Kill The Moon is an utter disgrace of an episode on many levels. My least favourite story of all time. However it's in the same season as Mummy on the Orient Express and Flatline, both of which I'd rate as absolutely superb.
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That episode had honestly one of the weakest critiques of Amazon I've ever seen. There's a super evil megacorporation that treats its employees like shit, and people are working these shit jobs to send their shit pay to their families so they can live shit lives, but the Doctor is perfectly fine with that because she's too busy trying to stop the radical worker by BLOWING HIM TO FUCKING SMITHEREENS. Seriously, Kerblam gave the Doctor the most shit moral compass, and I honestly think it's because Chib was too worried that by taking an actually anti-Amazon position the season would be seen as 'too left-wing,' which is fucking pathetic.
Honestly I would flip you on that. I thought it was the only half decent episode. Most of the time I just sat in confusion as to what I was actually watching. It didn't feel like Who.
i loved jodie whittakers performance and the more cinematic aesthetic of the show , the tone was a little off and there were moments of god damn terrible writing, its not the renaissance of doctor who i was hoping would come about when the reign of moffat ended and i think chibnall needs a writing partner, but as you said change is part of the show, i preferred the newyears special to most of the episodes this season so i'm hoping more like that as time goes on
I haven't personally watched much of series 11, but from what I have seen, it mostly feels like filler (kind of boring, but not bad). Also, with regards to the Doctor and Yaz not getting much personality/development, I do wonder how much of that comes from a fear of being insensitive. Bland and nice isn't going to win you any fans, but at least it's not going to inspire think pieces calling everyone involved "problematic".
Wow. This is the best analysis of this season I’ve seen. As you said, “worthless” is the most accurate way to describe most of the episodes. They’re not insulting. They are just worthless.
Did anyone else expect River to be in the mirror world in It takes you away? To be it seemed that all the stars were aligned for it. Alex Kingston said she wanted to come back to the show, the premise of the episode itself, etc.
Problem is I think that people would've compared it to The Name of The Doctor, despite the differences that would have been there. Mind you I think it would've been a great character moment for Whittaker's Doctor. Just enough of a call back to the old whilst still having the core concept of the show being somewhat new
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@@gorillazremix7446 Granted season 11 had its faults I personally enjoyed it overall but I do think Chibbers could do with some cocaine himself, might work for season 12
@@MrTheevilmage The position of "show runner" didn't exist back then. There were strong union regulations about who did what eg A script editor couldn't write a script (although sometimes that happened under pseudonym.
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Each new showrunner brings a completely different language to the way they present doctor who. For me at least this season didn't do it for me. I like the characters but the stories just felt blah
Personally, I think one of the best things in Doctor Who is the Regeneration. cycle. 1: New Doctor shows up: Oh I hate him, he will never be the doctor 2: Oh, a different take on the previous Doctor(S) ok, thats kinda cool 3:OMG I love him. 4: BBC spoils something major, like the Doctor is going to regenerate 5: NO, You cant go. How will this show survive without this actor. 6: New Doctor shows up: Oh I hate him, he will never be the doctor Regeneration can be a reward 3rd: Faced his fears: 5th: Saved Peri 6( audio story) saved everyone by basically killing himself. 9th Saved Rose, who saved the day. 10th: fell out of plane and survived on ly to die saving wilfred. 11th a thousand year exile when it was established that he hated being in the same place for too long. It can also be a "twist" at the end 2nd: executed then exiled 8th: died but was given the choice to go on by regenerating/ magic life potion or something instead, its mostly 1: Too old ( cant blame him, te actor was really ill.) 4th: fell to his death ( less high than a moving spaceship/plane) 6th ( Tv show) had to make a decision between doing his regeneration scene or working that year. He chose the one that pays. warrior: Too old 12: hugged by a cyberman Season 11 has some terrible writing ( looking at you, Guy who fires girl only to bring her up to a room at gun point, to then fire her again, *looks at watch* "15 minute potty break, when we come back, KEvin will escort you off the grounds permanently. " ) But season 10 was a mess. They shoved Capaldis regeneration down your throat, ( Let's have bill shoot the doctor, she dosen't know what regeneration is but at least it will be cool in the trailers) BBC spoiled the return of a character and basically the twist. Bill had the potential to be sooo much more than " Im a black and gay woman" I like matt luccas but he's only in season 10 because he asked. Knowing that BBC dosent pay for re writes it sometimes feels like they just erased a few pages so that they could give Nardole something funny to do. I don't know everything about Doctor who, but it feels like something is missing between S10 and S11. " I am the Doctor, I am over two thousand years old " "You're a woman:" "oh, ok" Man, thats some good character growth. Good thing we were given 10-15 minutes of exposition to tell us about Yazz being a cop ( even though She dosent really act like one. ) Ryan has an illness that is forgotten and Bradley Walsh's character apparently just flips his motivation for dramatic reasons in the last episode which makes no sense. ( havent made it that far yet,) Anyways, Doctor Who is a Reboot in tv form. I hope Season 12 can bring back the fans they lost from the previous season. One day, I honestly hope they kill the Doctor, mid season without it being over the top obvious. Then have the rest of the season adapting to their new body/personality.
'One day, I honestly hope they kill the Doctor, mid season without it being over the top obvious. Then have the rest of the season adapting to their new body/personality.' I have thought about that too. Or perhaps go the opposite route and introduce a future Doctor without specifying when he/she regenerates. Either way, a subversion of the typical new-season new-Doctor trope.
My issue is the Rosa Parks episode is that it plays into the shitty narrative that Rosa was a passive and tired worker who just wanted to get home, and that by missing the bus she would never have done her protest. Rosa Parks was a very involved activist who planned out her protest. She was a pivotal part of the Civil Rights movement and removing her agency in it and pretending it wasn’t 100% her plan to do this from the start makes it feel like they’re taking away a lot of what made Rosa Parks so brave- she planned weeks ahead of time to go to jail for her cause.
While I did enjoy this season, not enough to keep up week to week. When I did, I found the characters, and the move to more historical stories very endearing even if it never fully clicked together for me. This seems like the type of season that'll be looked back on with nostalgia in a few years for setting up the tone and presentation for what is to come, and hopefully more people come to appreciate it a little more.
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And ok I get your point about the Pting, but it being cute and looking harmless was the point, if it just looked like a stereotypical scary monster with the features that it's practically invincible, it will kill you and eat everrything in sight, it would be boring. But adding those characteristics to a thing that is cuter than the Adipose, and then playing it straight faced is the best way to go and I had a dumb grin on my face from beginning until the end
Rosa and Demons of the Punjab would have worked better as pure historicals. Kraskow feels like a late addition that had little impact other than to give the Doctor a reason to be in the setting. Punjab had some great character moments that felt dampened in the first half by the aliens that had no part in the story.
Here in New Zealand, E is for when you get between 1 and 39%, D for 40-49% F for 0. C- is the lowest passing grade at University, 50-54% C is 55-59% and C+ is 60-65% etc. You really want to be getting B's
I think that the fundamental flaw with this season is probably the lack of a seasonal arc alarm bad wolf and Torchwood. With the lack of an arc, you aren't going to get constant viewers as there is no reason to watch episode by episode to see if there is some expansion on the seasonal idea. There was one at the end of the season but I've never seen a season finale that came more out of left field (and I had to watch Mystic Force's finale last night).
Wouldn't shooting the spiders be more humane because your killing them quickly and (relatively) painlessly, instead of locking them in a room making them die a slow and painful death. (this comment feels redundant)
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@@hmsljj Also the witch one (I can't be asked to look up the name). When it was revealed it was aliens I actually felt myself being pulled out of the episode and being put on a different story. Never had that happen before. Didn't realise it was actually possible.
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To all the people who said the new series had forced diversity. England is an extremely culturally diverse country, seeing a Muslim, or a black guy isn't actually uncommon
@@iplayeddishonored2475 No. the BBC have said that they try to get the diversity accurately matching the public. This could impact which actors get in the episodes and because I am against selecting actors based on race/gender and not acting ability, I disagree with this.
@@iplayeddishonored2475 "To all the people who said the new series had forced diversity. " You phrased it like you where arguing against these people, and I am saying that they are partially right though I agree with what you said and it isn't as bad as they think.
Resolution felt very similar to the 10th Doctor novel I Am Dalek by Gareth Roberts. Most likely just a huge coincidence, but I just couldn't help thinking about it throughout watching the episode.
Its like how everone hated David Tennant, but then, they loves him, and then hated capaldi, rhen loved him, then hated all of the companions, then loved them, then everyone hated Jodie, she becomes more popular than David Wow
A bit of a minor point: the BBC isn't part of the British Government. The government has no control over the organisation and it is funded through a license fee instead of taxation. Based on its charter, the BBC also has an obligation to "inform, educate and entertain", which is part of the reason it includes historical stories as they're seen as educational.
Well said. In recent times there seems to be a growing resentment of the BBC based on misinformation, largely seeded by individuals and entities from outside of the UK. It's a worrying situation when legitimate media channels, governed by strict laws regarding accountability and impartiality, are constantly hammered by unaccountable individuals and organizations who bow to no such constraints. "Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it" 𝘑𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘚𝘸𝘪𝘧𝘵
As a new-who watcher who may have just been spoiled by the writing of Davies and Moffat, the thing with this season that got me was that I spent a lot of it waiting for Thirteen to just have a... Doctor moment. A moment where she gets super serious, makes a big speech and saves the day. A moment you see quoted throughout the fandom and stuff. And like, she did have * some * sorta good moments, like when she remembered herself or when she threatened that one gut in Kerblam, but nothing really too noteworthy. Was waiting for something like that in the Dalek episode, the one where she faces an enemy with literal CENTURIES of emotional baggage with it, and, again, she delivers * something *, but nothing really too memorable
The reason you were struggling so much with the word punjab is that American English has more of a tendency to trochees, where the stressed pattern of a word is stressed, unstressed. Punjab is actually pronounced as an iamb rather than a trochee, so the stress pattern is the exact opposite of what you are used to due to the whole way your dialect of the language works.
This season and for the first time in a really long time, the Doctor didn't feel like a god-like Space Jesus who saves Earth every other week and everyone has to either be scared of or admire and look up at in awe. Just the space hobo helping people any way she can, and to me that felt much more interesting.
I'm glad to see a nuanced take on the season that's relatively close to my own (although my overall opinion is maybe a bit more positive than yours, and I have wildly different opinions about the specifics - Tsuranga and Ghost Monument are two of my favorite episodes in the entire season and I think the Tsuranga monster looking like it does makes that episode a hundred times better, I liked Rosa a lot better than Demons, and I think Kerblam is one of the most terribly written and morally reprehensible episodes of Doctor Who I've ever seen with it's overt apologia of neoliberal capitalism), and I'm also glad that you're optimistic about the future, because I also think the next season looks like it might be a lot better.
i died at "i bought a pez dispenser for jodie whittaker but instead it just looks like uhh..... hillary clinton." i disagree with rosa though. for me it was the high point of the season and the only episode i watched twice. it was also the hardest i've ever cried in a doctor who episode, except for maybe vincent and the doctor. i honestly didn't think doctor who was capable of making me cry like that again. the ending was definitely cathartic for a ton of doctor who fans as i'm not the only one with this reaction, and malorie blackman really understands her target audience, which is a fucking prize for this season to be honest.
@@HereComesPopoBawa Ditto... series 11 felt alot more old school to this 40 year old watcher of the show. I didnt mind most of Nu Who, Capaldi was fine but went down hill and Matt Smiths first season was top notch, but most of Nu Who just didnt feel like the show i grew up with but i watched it simply because it was DW and we hadnt had that for over a decade outside of the movie.
Agree on the 13th doctor just being the most basic aspects of the doctor. One thing I loved was that I always felt uncomfortable being introduced to the new doctor because he was just a very different person! And then we learned to love that new personality, but there's none of that with her.
Big fan of your videos like this! (This being dissecting and more camera based) Also thank you for saying Jodie's last name correctly lmao. Personally I like Jodie's portrayal of the doctor. She's like all my fave parts of 9, 10 and 11.
What I liked: The cast More historicals Not framing The Doctor as a Tragic Hero. The IDEA of focusing on Graham and Ryan’s relationship, if only they pulled it off. Demons of Punjab was great. The filming felt more beautiful than any previous season. The Ghost Monument, for example, bad plot but it looked BEAUTIFUL. What I did not like: Little overarching plot. Not framing the Doctor as... anything. Random exposition breaks with no payoff. Boring villains. Cartoonishly evil rather than actually exploring. To the point where it’s a problem. Like, the Rich Guy in the Spider episode. He’s polluting because it’s bad and he’s bad. There’s not an exploration of how pollution is hard to stop because we are so dependent on systems in place, they’re just bad and if only we were good we could stop them. Same argument goes with Rosa, like rather than actually looking at Racism it just characterizes Racism as this one cartoonishly evil character. ((Also, Rosa Parks’ boycott was planned and strategic, making it this contingent thing that could be prevented if the bus didn’t go is almost insulting to her.)) The Kablam! episode was such an ideological heel-face-turn it is damn problematic. The whole show sets up that the (obvious Amazon parody) corporation is awful, then at the last minute reveals the killings are by an young revolutionary who says his “generation needs to change thing.” Thing is, the Doctor is completely unsympathetic to the revolutionary, even saying “The System isn’t the problem.” At a time when millennials are more critical of corporations like Amazon, this felt directly aimed the growing number of young people who are critiquing capitalism. And this one season after “Oxygen” directly critiqued capitalist exploitation! It bothers me because people still respond to the episode like it’s this good critique of corporations- Naaah. You can’t have the episode demonstrate how a company is exploitative and how the lives are dystopian, then have the resolution be “we killed the rebel, and also the bosses are going to hire more human employees more hours.” We don’t see any changes planned for hire wages, more vacation time, ect just “we will increase our quota of necessary human hires to appease this one rebel.” The problems of exploitative working conditions and automation of industries are two separate things, just hiring more humans won’t change exploitative conditions it just means more people will be exploited. Not to go full leftist but like, ideally automation of industries wouldn’t be a problem if people didn’t need to depend on the wage system to survive. The episode has this surface level anti-corporation aesthetic and then lands on the ultimate message “the system isn’t the problem we need to negotiate with it.” Obviously I’m a little biased because I disagreed with the shows ultimate message. But from a story telling perspective it’s inconsistent as well. If you’re going to tell a story about how radicalization is dangerous and we should try to be diplomatic in solving issues, there should be more set up for what radicalization looks like and what alternatives could be (Demons of the Punjab does this better with the brother now that I think about it). If you’re going to spend an episode building a world with an evil corporation, there should be some final confrontation moment with the problems displayed. I get the show was pulling a twist, subverting our expectations because we’ve seen the “evil corporation bad” story so many times. The problem with subverting expectations just to subverting expectations is that, if the story has some undercurrent of a critique or an argument, the twist can also subvert the initial critique being made. Not only does this make for an ideologically yucky episode (you thought we were critiquing exploitative work conditions? Plot twist! The real enemy are activists) but it makes for an inconsistent episode in terms of theme. There are valid critiques to be made about extremists/misguided radicals/revolutionaries but this episode makes none of them, we spend the whole episode showing why this corporation is dystopic and then are told the corporation is the real victim.
I was so ready to enjoy this series. Casting Whittaker and the three companions looked like something exciting and new, and I was happy for Moffat to finally leave. His final season was overall great but I truly disliked most of his run for its shallowness, overstretched plots, and general laziness. But, Chibnall's run has been severely lacking in characterisation and any semblance of good plotting. I really expected better from Chibnall than this after Boradchurch, and after his Silurians stories. But these last couple series, IMHO, are the worst, most shallow, meaningless and lifeless that the show has been since its revival of 2005. My hopes for it have been massively slashed, and that's really sad.
The problem with Jodie Whitaker's character is that Chibnall was writing episodes for this season before the role was cast. It's not just that these episodes weren't written for Jodie's gender, they weren't written for her at all. They didn't take her strengths and weaknesses as a performer into account and so couldn't play to them, resulting in her character being pretty weak in her first season. Because at the end of the day, aside from a few references to her gender which were doubtless thrown in at the last second, she currently stands as a one size fits all Doctor. I sincerely hope that they'll use their knowledge of the performer to their advantage in the next season to actually distinguish her and give her a character worth playing and worth watching.
13 has finally moved on, unlike 9 who was damaged from Time War, 10 who was romantic, 11 who lived fairy tales, or grumpy 12. The Doctor finnaly become mature, which makes her boring.
It was an underwhelming series mainly because of how over advertised it was before hand. It was not nearly as bad as people say it was, the series was just underwhelming but not bad. There are many stories that I would happily rewatch however there are episodes that I found just boring. Not terrible just boring.
Literally the only "let's talk critically about Doctor Who Series 11" video I will ever watch, because I can be certain that you're not going to slip in snide "it's because they tried too hard to be PC" or whatever bullshit. I personally really like Jodie's genial take on the Doctor, it feels very David Tennant to me, except with less angst (because no more "last of the Time Lords"). But yeah, while in theory the whole "back to basics, no big overarching season plot, just individual solid stories" conceit of the season was smart, in practice it makes it so that while it's never awful, it doesn't ever come close to the highest highs of the Davies and Moffat eras. But hey, now that we're warmed up, next season could be a real banger. Also, while overall I suppose you're spot on with all your criticisms of Ghost Monument...that entire episode is worth it purely for the final scene of Jodie Whitaker being one step removed from passionately making out with the front door of the TARDIS.
I only liked the episode with the mirror dimension. The other episodes felt like they had a forced message and much more bad. The way they got rid of UNIT winded me up so much. Edit: WHY DID JOURNALISTS THINK THE SCARF HAD A GAY MEANING?!?! IT IS CALLED A REFERENCE!
Honestly, when I saw revolution I thought that because it was foreign funding and U.N.I.T. was around the world that it was a sting on America wanting to pull out of N.A.T.O, but I am American, so I could very well be wrong.
When you mention how the partition of India was the fault of the British, it was, but ti wasn't theirs alone, the people living their had people wanting a separate state for Muslims. In Sri Lanaka we did the opposite, giving all the power to one group when there were two groups on the island.
This is the first review of Series 11 that I've seen that was measured and thoughtful and didn't make me want to burn this website to the ground with its blatant racism and sexism
Nicolas Young Agreed. That's something I thought of as I was watching it, that it felt the most like a Davies-era script, which I didn't mind as it framed it in my mind as a "so bad it's good" kinda way.
@@bucwhovian8305 sorry but remakes and regenaration are completely different. Back to my point shes not made it her own in fact she seems of seen a couple matt smith episodes and "I'll just do that". Its not all her fault the writers have also not really given her much to stand out either
@@lordbritannic I think they are a fair comparison, they have the same basic elements to them in thems of what they do, it's just how they do them that is different. I've often felt like some doctors feel similar to others. Every Doctor from Tom Baker onwards has felt like they were trying to copy him. So I don't think it's too surprising that Jodie Whittaker feels a little similar to other Doctors, and maybe that's not such a bad thing. They have played it a little safer with this like series, but they will let rip a bit more next year, I'm sure of it.
Boring plots, bad writing, personality free main characters, shit villains, stand up Chris Chibnall, you’ve made Moffat’s run, and Nathan-Turners run look like golden ages
I have higher hopes for future Doctor who than the way Chibnall writes now, I didn’t mind season 11, it was alright, but I didn’t finish season 12 or Flux, kind of went down hill with a few good moments. And Flux season, seemed slightly forced with some lines, the best thing that came out of Flux is Dan/ Evil Dan
"Shes the only person in the friend group who has a car" shutup! That's how I made friends in high school
Good For You! Have A Cookie! :)
And as an adult 😆
*Laugh Reacts*
Bruh, that shit made me choke on my orange juice. He said if ryan and grahm had the car they wouldn't invite her lol.
@@Jon_M_Carro Actually, if you don't mind, it's just 'the doctor'.
"only idiots carry knives"
LITERALLY THE NEXT EPISODE
*saves a man's life with a knife*
...
Both episodes were written by the same guy
Leela needs to come back and punch her in the face.
You get the implication tho, right? Knives are usually used by people in harmful ways. The Doctor didn't kill anyone with the knife, (in fact I'd have to go back and check but was it the Doctor that actually used the knife? I'm starting to think not) rather sshe just saved someone with it, showing that they are good, but not often
yup
the consistency in the writing would give jj abrahams a run for his money.
dw s11 is rise of skywalker level bad
@@britanimations2002 To pull one out to save someone, she had to be CARRYING one. Which is what she specifically said a person was an idiot for doing, she said nothing about the knife carriers intentions with said knife.
I have to assume the BBC didn't want The Doctor contradicting "no knives better lives".
The biggest problem for me was that it wasn't fun. Sure doctor who had its writing inconsistencies, but there was never a season that was completely B O R I N G, until there was. Nearing the last episodes of season 11, I wasn't thinking "oooh let's see what's happening this week" but rather "let's get this over with". It makes me sad.
Exactly!
i would argue that some where after the first reboot season it got boring but thats just me. i think that some where along the line ( it was mat smith for me ) fans get disillusioned with the show it probably has to do with when the viewer originally started watching.
I agree entirely, and Whitaker never solidified herself as the Doctor in my opinion. She was fine but too fluid a character to have any real traits. You need to COMMIT to YOUR Doctor. Thats what makes the different performances so good
IMO NuWho has been "fun" - in quotes, meaning that it elbows me in the ribs with cues to how exciting and whimsical it is supposed to be. The quick editing, flashy visuals, overbearing adventure-serial score, annoying catchphrases, fanwank myth-spinning. I LOVE that series 11 has dispensed with all of those things. But unfortunately, that step in the right direction is undermined by the stories and writing we got being rather half-baked.
Popo Bawa i personally love most of NuWho. To me it gets iffy when it goes to Moffat. Its a slow drain but a significant one.
It's evil to kill spiders, but then there's 'Kerblam!'... where it's okay to kill a kid. I really don't understand Thirteen yet and I don't think the writers do either.
to be fair, she did try to convince Charlie to get out of there and he just stared sadly back and let himself get exploded.
Either lazy writing or trying to make her have questionable morals, probably the former.
@@FluffyBunniesOnFire understandable. i actually enjoyed that episode so i did watch it a couple times, so it makes sense i would remember a detail like that.
@PikaCinema problem is nobody remembers because the episode was shit
@PikaCinema There was no reason to tell them to open the parcels in the first place. Once the deliveries were redirected, the parcels could have been collected and disposed of safely. The robots were just doing their programmed job and didn't need to be destroyed. Considering the robophobia accusation the Doctor threw out earlier in the episode, it seemed a particularly awful resolution to me. She might have tried to call Charlie to safety, but considering the only reason to have an explosion was the episode title, I think attributing his death to her (via poor writing) is totally fair.
The spider episode especially felt they were trying to force familiarity with the character of the Doctor, i.e. no killing, no guns; however it was just so forced as well as completely missing the mark in terms of being humane.
Yeah the doctor was going to give a mercy lobotomy to that space whale in series 5
She also could have just saved the spiders, like, they were made by normal earth scientists and the Doctor is an alien with a time machine that can also teleport. Figure out how to correct the genes, and then drop them off on another planet where giant spiders are normal. You know like he did in "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship."
My problem with series 11 is that it was so boring. The Doctor is just nebulously good, her companions are just nebulously good. Everyone who disagrees with the Doctor is bad. There's no interesting moral conflicts between the characters or in general. When the show does get close to having one they ultimately ruin it by either just cutting it off or having something that just makes no sense. Kerblam is decent up until the ending where it just trips over itself by having a character turn out to be a mad terrorist who wants to kill people and then doesn't, then does again because robots have almost entirely replaced human workforces, and his plan to fix it is to blow up customers with explosive bubble wrap. That's right, bubble wrap.
The only other remotely interesting conflict is where Graham wants to kill blue tooth face man for killing Grace, he confides in the Doctor that he wants to do this and feels like he needs to, she then tell him no, don't do that or you can't fly in my box any more. So he doesn't. He 'almost' does but the show has been so bland up to that point that Graham deciding not to kill him is so predictable it's not even funny.
Another problem with series 11 is that the Doctor is a massive hypocrite and keeps changing her mind about what she should be doing. She rages at Ryan for picking up a gun and trying to shoot at some mindless, non-sapient, robots. But she has no problem using weapons herself later in the series. She also keeps flip flopping over whether she wants to mess around the timeline of events. It's at its worst in Demons, she takes the whole gang even though it's really only relevant to Jaz. The Doctor tells them they can't play around with time but changes her mind back and forth because her companions decide that they *do* want to mess with the timeline. At the end everything happens as it's supposed to anyway so wasn't even any point really, which describes the demons themselves whose only reason for being there is to watch people die.
The only reason series 11 will be remembered is because of the gender swap, aside from that it is just sort of nothingy. It's not even worth getting angry over really. If I was jumping in for the first time, I probably wouldn't watch anymore of the show and I probably would have watched it to the conclusion only because I have nothing else better to do. That's probably the best way to describe series 11.
I too, love to suffocate spiders HUMANELY in my spare time
Couldn’t agree more
This is the first series of Doctor Who that I haven't bought on DVD, and have no intention of doing. It wasn't Doctor Who. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't Doctor Who. The episode Rosa seemed like a mediocre episode of Timeless.
@@rattyfan3594 compared to season 10 season 11 feels like a completely different show, which would usually be a good thing for DW, but it isn't in this case. It wasn't fun for me; previously bad episodes were just dumb imo, but they were never boring like they were this season.
That's what happens when you focus on SJW crap. I personally don't agree with having a female doctor but, if you had to have one, I'd prefer one like River Song. I loved her character. Sassy and resourceful. In fact, they should have just spun her off as her own series instead of insisting that the next Doctor had to be female. Wokeness kills everything that's good.
Kerblam! came pretty close to being a true high point for the season, something like a modern-day Sunmakers or Happiness Patrol... but it totally flubbed the landing by taking the position that capitalism is an unqualified good thing. It spends its first two acts highlighting all of the questionable ways Kerblam! treats its workers, only to spend its final act effectively saying, "Nah, it's fine - oh, hey, look, we managed to monsterize bubble wrap as a tribute to the classic series!"
Doctor Who is a series that needs to be better than "Well, at least it didn't embarrass itself." I felt like I was watching a season full of "proof-of-concept" pieces - the bulk of which worked, but didn't go anywhere beyond that. Jodie Whittaker is a great actress (and the concept of a female Doctor is one that is frankly overdue), but Chibnall really needs to get someone on board behind the scenes to do some serious script editing for him, someone with vision and bravery... because that was sorely lacking in this most recent season.
Don’t forget that season 11 saw the exit of an amazing artist: Murray gold, who had been influencing the show’s tone with his music. Truly great stuff
Oh yeah, Nitpix pointed that out in his video on Season 11. Even bringing up how Gold would recall certain themes in later seasons to fit at specific moments
I was kind of hoping 13 would be sort of a reverse 12. I feel like every next doctor is a reaction of the last in a major way, like 11 choosing to reject responsibilities and guilt after how unfairly 10 had to die, or how twelve doubled down on being pragmatic and cynical after centuries of being a buffoon before.
I guess I was hoping that there would be a sort of double edged sword to 13's extremely fun and awkward personality. Like, if anything upset her bubbly perspective, then there would be a risk of her snapping and showing a side of herself protective of her companions and her own joy to dangerous degrees.
Jay Exci made an Essay about New-and-Bad Doctor Who that is so legendarily good that it’s the Top-Video that comes up when you google ‚Doctor Who’ without ANY other words added.
Honestly, your last 2 sentences just described Matt Smith, to me.
@@LampDoesVideogame smith was always pulling punches, threatening things with gravitas instead of acting outright. even his anger was elevated and buffoonish. it would be interesting to see 13 have an anger that’s informed by capaldi. quiet, cold, snappy. no diatribes about why she’s hurt, just fierce protection.
This video is a breath of fresh air. I'm highkey tired of those "season 11 bad because WOMAN??" videos popping up in my recommended. I adore the effort you put into your videos Quinton, keep it up!
You're not the only one man. Wish more people on this platform would actually do their job properly as a critic instead of going, "oh worst than we thought, wasn't just women but BLACK PEOPLE. And worst of all... BLACK WOMEN!" Looking at you Nerdrotic
I don't think anyone is really saying that, though, except maybe that Irish guy, 'Computing Forever' or something. Most people disliked it because of how poorly written and acted it was, and how boring it was.
No one is saying that though. Unless they are actual manbabies.
Most of it is “we don’t like how forced diversity is taking priority over good writing instead of it being woven in naturally.” Yeah the videos are still overly negative but still.
@@zachanikwano "No one is saying that though"
Yeah, I remember when I was new to the internet, too.
@@britanimations2002 Why are you looking at him? He isn't saying that. Nor are any other reviewers. They in fact go to great pains to point out they're not because some woketard with an agenda will immediately dismiss any criticism by falsely shouting sexism, raaaacism.
if a hot, cool, god-like being jumped into my life and whisked me off to whimsical adventures I'd probably fall in love.
If she looked like Jane Seymour in her prime I know I would! ;)
Here’s a note
Hartnell made us understand his character within his first 20 minutes.
Troughten took one serial to show us that regeneration can work.
Pertwee made his impression in 1 episode.
Baker managed it within a 5 minute introduction scene.
Davison took a while but you always knew where you stood with him.
C.Baker did it in his first serial (for better or for worse).
McCoy in his first season showed the direction he was going to take his character.
McGann has many distinct personas and all feel familiar to me.
Eccleston took half an episode and you knew he was wounded.
Tennant did it in one monologue after being asleep for the whole episode.
Smith again did it in 5 minutes.
Capaldi nailed it in the first episode.
After 10 episodes, I still do not feel like I understand who she is as the doctor and where her morals truly are.
I only disagree with Davison, they did the same thing with him that is being done with Whittaker aka seemingly a nicer Dr but making him really trigger happy and grouchy at times. 5, and 13 actually have a lot in common when you think about it
Capaldi nailed it; but 12 as a character was a bit all over the place until series 10
oh shit i stumbled across an actually decent, balanced video on Dr who s11! I'd heard rumours but never believed them to be true.
The whole thing felt cobbled together at last minute to me - I quite like Jodie and the wider cast and there's bits and pieces of good ideas in there - centring a series around Ryan and Graham grieving over Grace's death and growing closer - but the interesting ideas are so underdeveloped that I never felt like I was going on any kind of journey with these people. Ryan and Graham's growing closer only really happens in a handful of token scenes when the writers remember 'shit we're supposed to be engineering a character arc here' - the most baffling decision of all was putting the episode where they both come to terms with Grace's death and Ryan starts calling Graham Granddad BEFORE the episode where they confront Tim Shaw again and Graham goes 'right I wanna kill him for revenge' - those two episodes needed to go the other way around. it just didn't feel like anyone really thought the structure of this grief arc through
Hey Stubagful! Nice to see you here!
Good to see you stubagful.
I do like it takes you away I think it's quite underrated in my opinion but I do agree with you I'm not a fan of the Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos though resolution is the true finalie in my eyes
P. S I like your reviews
Good to see someone present a more neutral opinion towards the show, in a setting where you either have to love the show or absolutely hate it
I love your use of 'have to' as if we can't just be neutral about it, which is kinda what the fan base is losing.
@timrob12 The internet doesn't pay attention to you if you have a neutral opinion :P
I have just about the same thoughts as Quinton btw
@@WiloPolis03 That's what I like about Quinton and some other reviewers. They don't put the subject on one side. They talk about what's good about it and what's bad about it. I liked Quinton's video on change in Doctor Who and the one about Twice Upon a Time, an episode I really like but got a lot of backlash because of how Dr. 1 was written (while I actually found a sexist remark in An Unearthly Child - or more specific "The Forest of Fear"), while the episode is so much more than just those comments made by the First Doctor.
To the last two repliers, I definitely agree that the internet has always been this way. But the Doctor Who fanbase used to be a bit less toxic than a lot of other fanbases. Not anymore sadly
@timrob12 I agree 100%
"If Graham and Ryan had their own time machine they would stop hanging out with her" is even funnier given that Season 12 ended with them noping out with the psychic paper and having their own adventures without The Doctor lol
I'm fine with a female doctor and a diverse cast but season 11 is just poorly written. I want it to be good but I just found myself bored and engaged.
I was rooting so hard for this season to succeed but it was just so mediocre and seemed aimed at a younger audience. What annoys me most is that the showrunner/writers' failures are being used by some fans as "proof" that you can have good writing *or* diversity but not both.
@@Kateiswriting Jay Exci made an Essay about New-and-Bad Doctor Who that is so legendarily good that it’s the Top-Video that comes up when you google ‚Doctor Who’ without ANY other words added.
I have to say, It Takes You Away bugged me because of the total non-twist (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
SHOW: Oh look it's people they loved who are dead.
VIEWER: Okay they're not real though.
SHOW: No, they totally are real!
VIEWER: Interesting, what's the deal then?
SHOW: Psych! They weren't real!
"Also, Yaz is there"
Feels to me like the new "what about Zoydberg?"
The difference being Zoidberg's character is recognizable because the writing staff knew how to use him for situations where he would be relevant.
My main issue with the 13th doctor is the whole "I'm-so-awkward-cause-Im-an-alien" bit. Like the doctor is like 1000+ years old at this point and has shown a level of basic understanding of basically everything. Like even when past doctors did find something new, they never have had a problem integrating fairly convincing. It makes a more interesting character with potentially infinite stories to tell. The new "humor" makes the doctor less interesting and overall makes the show boring
The show trying to tell us that the person with 2000 years of social interaction experience is completely socially inept
I’m so sad cause I totally feel like they wasted Whitaker. She is a genuinely good actress and if they hadn’t of been so scared for her to express her femininity, or play on the fact that maybe she herself is having a hard time comprehending that she’s a woman now (that would have made a really good first episode) it may have been the best season of doctor who. She’s already proved her acting chops in black mirror, she’s got the talent.
Ugh. I hope they do her better next season.
One more thing, if they had only focused on historical references in Rosa and demons instead of throwing in sci-fi randomly they would have done much better. Just my opinion.
Not to mention Broadchurch. Whitaker outshines both Olivia Colman and David Tennant (both of whom have been in Doctor Who) in that show
Agreed. Wouldn't be the first waste of talent, either. Ever since l saw Matt Lucas in literally anything other than DW, l felt like they didn't give him enough jokes. "The Doctor's Butler" can only carry you so far, comedy-wise, imo.
I doubt it'd be the best season considering the quality of the plots we got, they need better writers.
I agree with the last comment
It felt like they were trying to bring back the classic pure historical, but weren't allowed so had aliens from the future shoehorned in
So close, yet so far
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Olivia Colman outshined both Tennant and Whittaker.
I feel like the mark of a good Doctor is when you can gather their new persona from just their first season, and an excellent Doctor from their first episode/story... and an outstanding Doctor from their first few scenes, case in point, Tom Baker.
Unfortunately for me, the Thirteenth Doctor is still a vague mishmash of Ten and Eleven with all quirks from either ironed away and with no real points of interest to herself... in a sense, she's sorta like the Fifth Doctor, but even the Fifth Doctor had his moments of unique character and had an impressive send-off in The Caves of Androzani, though I hope Whittaker will get a good episode before her regeneration story.
Maybe her tenure will mirror McCoy's, with the tepid first season and then a more engaging run for the remainder of her time. Or maybe I'm just being hopeful.
To be fair, Capaldi's first season was absolutely terrible and his character was incredibly inconsistent in it. Only in Series 9 did he get into it and he ended up being an absolutely amazing Doctor.
Tanno van Doorn Hmm personally I would say series 10 is his only true good series. Still my favourite modern Doctor.
I find the concept of "history too close to comfort" fairly interesting. Like what is the cut off? Why is WWII always that? It reveals a dynamic introduced by periodization that affects our everyday thoughts. It also shows that 'safe' history is automatically devalued as a result. Not that this is a bad thing, but it has consequences. Historiography can get weird
Some people would say that covering a historic event that was so recent that survivors still live to this day, and adding stupid aliens, is too much. I agree.
Interesting
I think WWII is the cutoff because a most of the people who were adults at the time are dead, and culurally speaking, at least in terms of the West (particularly the UK) it's easy to make it a fairly black and white conflict. Additionally we're so used to WWII in media and it offers a wealth of different scenarios for a science fiction show, that it's a must-do setting.
While the Partition of India happened only a couple years after the Second World War, the effects have been felt very directly for generations, it's a historical event where the viewer's home country (at least if you're in the UK) is the villain, and people are oppressed for colonialist reasons, it led to violence killing thousands, and the displacement of millions.
I don't think New Who has done too much with the second half of the 20th century up to this season, there was a story revolving around Rose's father in the 80s, and a story that had the Queen's coronation in the 50s as a backdrop, but outside of that, nothing AFAIR.
I would like to point out that Rosa doesn't feel too close to home and is much more recent.
Well in a time travel show you run into the problem that the Doctor has the capability to stop the Holocaust but decided not to. Which obviously would radically alter history and it wouldn't be connected to our world anymore. The Doctor is not real so she can't take down the British Empire or the Transatlantic slave trade but he can free the Ood and take down space colonialism, and big historical injustices call uncomfortable attention to this.
I was legitimately startled by your outro.
I was expecting to hear “And that’s all you bee.”
I stopped caring about Doctor Who after that awful “the moon is an egg” episode from a couple years ago.
Know what you mean. That was bad. And yet the next two episodes after were very good. You should give them a shot .....
Yeah "Kill the Moon" was awful. But it got better.
Kill The Moon is an utter disgrace of an episode on many levels. My least favourite story of all time.
However it's in the same season as Mummy on the Orient Express and Flatline, both of which I'd rate as absolutely superb.
But you didn't stop caring enough not to comment on it five years later.
season 9 was arguably the best season of modern Who along with season 4
2:34 dude I wish that were case my mom is always on my ass for getting a C on any of my tests
if you're in college a C is totally fine though
@@biffman6 I wish that were true with my mom
Finally a new Quimbus video
Simon EF a new quimbly revolts video is always welcome
@@Ms.gnomer Jay Exci made an Essay about New-and-Bad Doctor Who that is so legendarily good that it’s the Top-Video that comes up when you google ‚Doctor Who’ without ANY other words added.
The twist in Kerblam isn’t good. It’s a shame because the rest of the episode was great.
That episode had honestly one of the weakest critiques of Amazon I've ever seen. There's a super evil megacorporation that treats its employees like shit, and people are working these shit jobs to send their shit pay to their families so they can live shit lives, but the Doctor is perfectly fine with that because she's too busy trying to stop the radical worker by BLOWING HIM TO FUCKING SMITHEREENS. Seriously, Kerblam gave the Doctor the most shit moral compass, and I honestly think it's because Chib was too worried that by taking an actually anti-Amazon position the season would be seen as 'too left-wing,' which is fucking pathetic.
Honestly I would flip you on that. I thought it was the only half decent episode. Most of the time I just sat in confusion as to what I was actually watching. It didn't feel like Who.
The part where A WOMAN DIES IN FRONT OF THEM and they barely flinch was I thought a microcosm of how boring series 11 was.
i loved jodie whittakers performance and the more cinematic aesthetic of the show , the tone was a little off and there were moments of god damn terrible writing, its not the renaissance of doctor who i was hoping would come about when the reign of moffat ended and i think chibnall needs a writing partner, but as you said change is part of the show, i preferred the newyears special to most of the episodes this season so i'm hoping more like that as time goes on
This season Chibnall actually had many writing partners. It was the first Doctor Who season to utilise a writers room.
“It feels like set-up for something much more promising.”
Oh poor Quinton. Poor 2019 Quinton. That poor innocent soul.
I haven't personally watched much of series 11, but from what I have seen, it mostly feels like filler (kind of boring, but not bad).
Also, with regards to the Doctor and Yaz not getting much personality/development, I do wonder how much of that comes from a fear of being insensitive. Bland and nice isn't going to win you any fans, but at least it's not going to inspire think pieces calling everyone involved "problematic".
0:39 quinton phases out of existence
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Joseph E Quinton B. Reviews
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Wow. This is the best analysis of this season I’ve seen. As you said, “worthless” is the most accurate way to describe most of the episodes. They’re not insulting. They are just worthless.
Did anyone else expect River to be in the mirror world in It takes you away? To be it seemed that all the stars were aligned for it. Alex Kingston said she wanted to come back to the show, the premise of the episode itself, etc.
Problem is I think that people would've compared it to The Name of The Doctor, despite the differences that would have been there.
Mind you I think it would've been a great character moment for Whittaker's Doctor. Just enough of a call back to the old whilst still having the core concept of the show being somewhat new
Quinton I love you so much. You always put so much heart into your work. I look forward to every one of your videos. Keep up the great work!!
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John Nathan Turner was basically 50% cocaine 40%Hawaiian shirts and 10% Doctor who showwriter
@@gorillazremix7446 Granted season 11 had its faults I personally enjoyed it overall but I do think Chibbers could do with some cocaine himself, might work for season 12
Well technically he was 0% showwriter, he never wrote a single episode.
@@bhind45 weird, I could have sworn he did
@@bhind45 he unofficially edited stories at times
@@MrTheevilmage The position of "show runner" didn't exist back then. There were strong union regulations about who did what eg A script editor couldn't write a script (although sometimes that happened under pseudonym.
I'm not into Doctor Who whatsoever, just watching to support my favorite breadtuber
"they turn off the gene that limits the spiders growth. So they keep growing forever."
But.... That's dumb though....
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imo kill the moon is the worst... except maybe love and monsters.
I forgot this season was on.
You're lucky
9:05, 12:21, 17:56 subliminal image of Quinton actually holding a cat
Oh thank you! Now I know why I suddenly feel like buying a cat!
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For me the main problem was the writing, i mean non of the writers had experience writing sci fi shows and it clearly shows
I agree. They were all hired based solely on their SJW works. S11 was Doctor who in name only.
@@matthewnevin9156 Muh esjaydoublewoo 2: electric jewgaloo
Each new showrunner brings a completely different language to the way they present doctor who. For me at least this season didn't do it for me. I like the characters but the stories just felt blah
Same
I loved what Jodie could've been. But it seems like her director doesn't know how to direct *ANY* of the actors.
@Zach Arbogast I hated her character. The actress is fine, but good god Rose was the worst.
Personally, I think one of the best things in Doctor Who is the Regeneration. cycle.
1: New Doctor shows up: Oh I hate him, he will never be the doctor
2: Oh, a different take on the previous Doctor(S) ok, thats kinda cool
3:OMG I love him.
4: BBC spoils something major, like the Doctor is going to regenerate
5: NO, You cant go. How will this show survive without this actor.
6: New Doctor shows up: Oh I hate him, he will never be the doctor
Regeneration can be a reward
3rd: Faced his fears:
5th: Saved Peri
6( audio story) saved everyone by basically killing himself.
9th Saved Rose, who saved the day.
10th: fell out of plane and survived on ly to die saving wilfred.
11th a thousand year exile when it was established that he hated being in the same place for too long.
It can also be a "twist" at the end
2nd: executed then exiled
8th: died but was given the choice to go on by regenerating/ magic life potion or something
instead, its mostly
1: Too old ( cant blame him, te actor was really ill.)
4th: fell to his death ( less high than a moving spaceship/plane)
6th ( Tv show) had to make a decision between doing his regeneration scene or working that year. He chose the one that pays.
warrior: Too old
12: hugged by a cyberman
Season 11 has some terrible writing
( looking at you, Guy who fires girl only to bring her up to a room at gun point, to then fire her again, *looks at watch* "15 minute potty break, when we come back, KEvin will escort you off the grounds permanently. " )
But season 10 was a mess.
They shoved Capaldis regeneration down your throat, ( Let's have bill shoot the doctor, she dosen't know what regeneration is but at least it will be cool in the trailers)
BBC spoiled the return of a character and basically the twist.
Bill had the potential to be sooo much more than " Im a black and gay woman"
I like matt luccas but he's only in season 10 because he asked.
Knowing that BBC dosent pay for re writes it sometimes feels like they just erased a few pages so that they could give Nardole something funny to do.
I don't know everything about Doctor who, but it feels like something is missing between S10 and S11.
" I am the Doctor, I am over two thousand years old "
"You're a woman:"
"oh, ok"
Man, thats some good character growth.
Good thing we were given 10-15 minutes of exposition to tell us about Yazz being a cop
( even though She dosent really act like one. )
Ryan has an illness that is forgotten
and Bradley Walsh's character apparently just flips his motivation for dramatic reasons in the last episode which makes no sense. ( havent made it that far yet,)
Anyways, Doctor Who is a Reboot in tv form.
I hope Season 12 can bring back the fans they lost from the previous season.
One day, I honestly hope they kill the Doctor, mid season without it being over the top obvious. Then have the rest of the season adapting to their new body/personality.
'One day, I honestly hope they kill the Doctor, mid season without it being over the top obvious. Then have the rest of the season adapting to their new body/personality.'
I have thought about that too. Or perhaps go the opposite route and introduce a future Doctor without specifying when he/she regenerates. Either way, a subversion of the typical new-season new-Doctor trope.
My issue is the Rosa Parks episode is that it plays into the shitty narrative that Rosa was a passive and tired worker who just wanted to get home, and that by missing the bus she would never have done her protest.
Rosa Parks was a very involved activist who planned out her protest. She was a pivotal part of the Civil Rights movement and removing her agency in it and pretending it wasn’t 100% her plan to do this from the start makes it feel like they’re taking away a lot of what made Rosa Parks so brave- she planned weeks ahead of time to go to jail for her cause.
While I did enjoy this season, not enough to keep up week to week. When I did, I found the characters, and the move to more historical stories very endearing even if it never fully clicked together for me. This seems like the type of season that'll be looked back on with nostalgia in a few years for setting up the tone and presentation for what is to come, and hopefully more people come to appreciate it a little more.
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And ok I get your point about the Pting, but it being cute and looking harmless was the point, if it just looked like a stereotypical scary monster with the features that it's practically invincible, it will kill you and eat everrything in sight, it would be boring. But adding those characteristics to a thing that is cuter than the Adipose, and then playing it straight faced is the best way to go and I had a dumb grin on my face from beginning until the end
"It seemed like a magical school bus episode," that was hilarious.
Cpncentra
Rosa and Demons of the Punjab would have worked better as pure historicals. Kraskow feels like a late addition that had little impact other than to give the Doctor a reason to be in the setting. Punjab had some great character moments that felt dampened in the first half by the aliens that had no part in the story.
C+ is barely passing? Whats the point of getting an E then?
College grades be strict, mang.
in American grading, C is the lowest passing grade
E for educated
Im pretty sure D is the lowest passing grade there @@yourXface1000
Here in New Zealand, E is for when you get between 1 and 39%, D for 40-49% F for 0. C- is the lowest passing grade at University, 50-54% C is 55-59% and C+ is 60-65% etc. You really want to be getting B's
I think that the fundamental flaw with this season is probably the lack of a seasonal arc alarm bad wolf and Torchwood. With the lack of an arc, you aren't going to get constant viewers as there is no reason to watch episode by episode to see if there is some expansion on the seasonal idea. There was one at the end of the season but I've never seen a season finale that came more out of left field (and I had to watch Mystic Force's finale last night).
I used to love Doctor Who as a kid, I had all the annuals, comics and everything.
Hardly ever watch it anymore though
Wouldn't shooting the spiders be more humane because your killing them quickly and (relatively) painlessly, instead of locking them in a room making them die a slow and painful death.
(this comment feels redundant)
27:46 "the final good: the shows future"
*Cries in 2021*
I mean this new series ain't too bad so far
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Did you opinion change after that finale??? Sure did for me.
i struggle with falling asleep and lately i’ve been watching your videos while trying to. your voice and content is relaxing and you’ve been helping. i’m thankful for you.
Hi Quinton, I love you and your beard but you forgot the talking frog
It was probably intentional. I've never been taken out of enjoying an episode so quickly as it did when Kermit came out.
@@hmsljj Also the witch one (I can't be asked to look up the name). When it was revealed it was aliens I actually felt myself being pulled out of the episode and being put on a different story. Never had that happen before. Didn't realise it was actually possible.
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I mostly agree but come on Kerblam was NOT good commentary on Amazon. The good guy WAS Amazon in the episode!
To all the people who said the new series had forced diversity.
England is an extremely culturally diverse country, seeing a Muslim, or a black guy isn't actually uncommon
But the people who complain aren’t British. They are Americans who either deny or wish those people aren’t around.
@@jaycorbin6145 the very point I was making
@@iplayeddishonored2475 No. the BBC have said that they try to get the diversity accurately matching the public. This could impact which actors get in the episodes and because I am against selecting actors based on race/gender and not acting ability, I disagree with this.
a cats I’m not saying it’s right man, just that it’s accurate
@@iplayeddishonored2475 "To all the people who said the new series had forced diversity. "
You phrased it like you where arguing against these people, and I am saying that they are partially right though I agree with what you said and it isn't as bad as they think.
Resolution felt very similar to the 10th Doctor novel I Am Dalek by Gareth Roberts. Most likely just a huge coincidence, but I just couldn't help thinking about it throughout watching the episode.
Oh shit you're the other person who read that that book
@@Mgooy I’ve read it also
Its like how everone hated David Tennant, but then, they loves him, and then hated capaldi, rhen loved him, then hated all of the companions, then loved them, then everyone hated Jodie, she becomes more popular than David Wow
For me Whittaker simply never felt like the Doctor.
Im so glad youre still doing dw content, this is how I originally found you, solid video man
A bit of a minor point: the BBC isn't part of the British Government. The government has no control over the organisation and it is funded through a license fee instead of taxation.
Based on its charter, the BBC also has an obligation to "inform, educate and entertain", which is part of the reason it includes historical stories as they're seen as educational.
Well said.
In recent times there seems to be a growing resentment of the BBC based on misinformation, largely seeded by individuals and entities from outside of the UK.
It's a worrying situation when legitimate media channels, governed by strict laws regarding accountability and impartiality, are constantly hammered by unaccountable individuals and organizations who bow to no such constraints.
"Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it" 𝘑𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘚𝘸𝘪𝘧𝘵
So is it the British equivalent of PBS then?
@@jaycorbin6145 I think that's a good enough analogy. I'm not too familiar with PBS, but I get the impression they're similar.
As a new-who watcher who may have just been spoiled by the writing of Davies and Moffat, the thing with this season that got me was that I spent a lot of it waiting for Thirteen to just have a... Doctor moment. A moment where she gets super serious, makes a big speech and saves the day. A moment you see quoted throughout the fandom and stuff. And like, she did have * some * sorta good moments, like when she remembered herself or when she threatened that one gut in Kerblam, but nothing really too noteworthy. Was waiting for something like that in the Dalek episode, the one where she faces an enemy with literal CENTURIES of emotional baggage with it, and, again, she delivers * something *, but nothing really too memorable
The reason you were struggling so much with the word punjab is that American English has more of a tendency to trochees, where the stressed pattern of a word is stressed, unstressed. Punjab is actually pronounced as an iamb rather than a trochee, so the stress pattern is the exact opposite of what you are used to due to the whole way your dialect of the language works.
This season and for the first time in a really long time, the Doctor didn't feel like a god-like Space Jesus who saves Earth every other week and everyone has to either be scared of or admire and look up at in awe. Just the space hobo helping people any way she can, and to me that felt much more interesting.
It was mediocre!
I'd personally say the best episodes were mediocre. A lot were just really bad.
@Zach Arbogast
Season 7 and 8 were mediocre
Season 11 was bad
@@meris8486
Series 7 and 11 are bad
Series 8's underrated.
Peter Capaldi's and Colin Baker's eras were mediocre, this was just horrible and terrible
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 Your just mediocre!
I'm glad to see a nuanced take on the season that's relatively close to my own (although my overall opinion is maybe a bit more positive than yours, and I have wildly different opinions about the specifics - Tsuranga and Ghost Monument are two of my favorite episodes in the entire season and I think the Tsuranga monster looking like it does makes that episode a hundred times better, I liked Rosa a lot better than Demons, and I think Kerblam is one of the most terribly written and morally reprehensible episodes of Doctor Who I've ever seen with it's overt apologia of neoliberal capitalism), and I'm also glad that you're optimistic about the future, because I also think the next season looks like it might be a lot better.
finally a balanced series 11 review as opposed to the atypical alt-right MRA BS reviews I have seen on youtube.
i died at "i bought a pez dispenser for jodie whittaker but instead it just looks like uhh..... hillary clinton."
i disagree with rosa though. for me it was the high point of the season and the only episode i watched twice. it was also the hardest i've ever cried in a doctor who episode, except for maybe vincent and the doctor. i honestly didn't think doctor who was capable of making me cry like that again. the ending was definitely cathartic for a ton of doctor who fans as i'm not the only one with this reaction, and malorie blackman really understands her target audience, which is a fucking prize for this season to be honest.
It’s a shame because Jodie Whittaker is a great actor, just watch Black Mirror EHOY, she just felt weird and felt through the whole season
Remember Harriet Jones? How she represented views opposing the doctor? Without being an evil cartoon character? Good times
If you ask me, it doesn't have the Doctor Who 'vibe' that the first iconic 3 seasons had.
Do you mean series 1-3 of the new series from 2005 to today.
Yeah William Hartnell was the best and actually cared about the show and character
That's IMO A Good Thing - the NuWho vibe has been something I merely tolerated (most of the time) and am delighted that it's finally gone/changed.
@@HereComesPopoBawa Ditto... series 11 felt alot more old school to this 40 year old watcher of the show. I didnt mind most of Nu Who, Capaldi was fine but went down hill and Matt Smiths first season was top notch, but most of Nu Who just didnt feel like the show i grew up with but i watched it simply because it was DW and we hadnt had that for over a decade outside of the movie.
Agree on the 13th doctor just being the most basic aspects of the doctor. One thing I loved was that I always felt uncomfortable being introduced to the new doctor because he was just a very different person! And then we learned to love that new personality, but there's none of that with her.
Big fan of your videos like this! (This being dissecting and more camera based) Also thank you for saying Jodie's last name correctly lmao.
Personally I like Jodie's portrayal of the doctor. She's like all my fave parts of 9, 10 and 11.
I like her Pertwee traits myself (builds things, the aikido, opposition to authority but close inner circle), but to each their own.
What I liked:
The cast
More historicals
Not framing The Doctor as a Tragic Hero.
The IDEA of focusing on Graham and Ryan’s relationship, if only they pulled it off.
Demons of Punjab was great.
The filming felt more beautiful than any previous season. The Ghost Monument, for example, bad plot but it looked BEAUTIFUL.
What I did not like:
Little overarching plot.
Not framing the Doctor as... anything.
Random exposition breaks with no payoff.
Boring villains. Cartoonishly evil rather than actually exploring. To the point where it’s a problem. Like, the Rich Guy in the Spider episode. He’s polluting because it’s bad and he’s bad. There’s not an exploration of how pollution is hard to stop because we are so dependent on systems in place, they’re just bad and if only we were good we could stop them. Same argument goes with Rosa, like rather than actually looking at Racism it just characterizes Racism as this one cartoonishly evil character. ((Also, Rosa Parks’ boycott was planned and strategic, making it this contingent thing that could be prevented if the bus didn’t go is almost insulting to her.))
The Kablam! episode was such an ideological heel-face-turn it is damn problematic. The whole show sets up that the (obvious Amazon parody) corporation is awful, then at the last minute reveals the killings are by an young revolutionary who says his “generation needs to change thing.” Thing is, the Doctor is completely unsympathetic to the revolutionary, even saying “The System isn’t the problem.” At a time when millennials are more critical of corporations like Amazon, this felt directly aimed the growing number of young people who are critiquing capitalism. And this one season after “Oxygen” directly critiqued capitalist exploitation!
It bothers me because people still respond to the episode like it’s this good critique of corporations- Naaah. You can’t have the episode demonstrate how a company is exploitative and how the lives are dystopian, then have the resolution be “we killed the rebel, and also the bosses are going to hire more human employees more hours.” We don’t see any changes planned for hire wages, more vacation time, ect just “we will increase our quota of necessary human hires to appease this one rebel.” The problems of exploitative working conditions and automation of industries are two separate things, just hiring more humans won’t change exploitative conditions it just means more people will be exploited. Not to go full leftist but like, ideally automation of industries wouldn’t be a problem if people didn’t need to depend on the wage system to survive. The episode has this surface level anti-corporation aesthetic and then lands on the ultimate message “the system isn’t the problem we need to negotiate with it.”
Obviously I’m a little biased because I disagreed with the shows ultimate message. But from a story telling perspective it’s inconsistent as well. If you’re going to tell a story about how radicalization is dangerous and we should try to be diplomatic in solving issues, there should be more set up for what radicalization looks like and what alternatives could be (Demons of the Punjab does this better with the brother now that I think about it). If you’re going to spend an episode building a world with an evil corporation, there should be some final confrontation moment with the problems displayed. I get the show was pulling a twist, subverting our expectations because we’ve seen the “evil corporation bad” story so many times. The problem with subverting expectations just to subverting expectations is that, if the story has some undercurrent of a critique or an argument, the twist can also subvert the initial critique being made. Not only does this make for an ideologically yucky episode (you thought we were critiquing exploitative work conditions? Plot twist! The real enemy are activists) but it makes for an inconsistent episode in terms of theme. There are valid critiques to be made about extremists/misguided radicals/revolutionaries but this episode makes none of them, we spend the whole episode showing why this corporation is dystopic and then are told the corporation is the real victim.
Why did you buy a pez when you could have bought another Walugi Amiibo
26:57 Quinton, I hate to break it to you, but uh... that's literally the plot of Solaris. They copied the plot of Solaris.
Dude, something keeps flickering in your footage.
The hologram emitters need to be calibrated, dont worry about it 😉
I was so ready to enjoy this series. Casting Whittaker and the three companions looked like something exciting and new, and I was happy for Moffat to finally leave. His final season was overall great but I truly disliked most of his run for its shallowness, overstretched plots, and general laziness. But, Chibnall's run has been severely lacking in characterisation and any semblance of good plotting.
I really expected better from Chibnall than this after Boradchurch, and after his Silurians stories. But these last couple series, IMHO, are the worst, most shallow, meaningless and lifeless that the show has been since its revival of 2005. My hopes for it have been massively slashed, and that's really sad.
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The problem with Jodie Whitaker's character is that Chibnall was writing episodes for this season before the role was cast. It's not just that these episodes weren't written for Jodie's gender, they weren't written for her at all. They didn't take her strengths and weaknesses as a performer into account and so couldn't play to them, resulting in her character being pretty weak in her first season. Because at the end of the day, aside from a few references to her gender which were doubtless thrown in at the last second, she currently stands as a one size fits all Doctor.
I sincerely hope that they'll use their knowledge of the performer to their advantage in the next season to actually distinguish her and give her a character worth playing and worth watching.
13 has finally moved on, unlike 9 who was damaged from Time War, 10 who was romantic, 11 who lived fairy tales, or grumpy 12.
The Doctor finnaly become mature, which makes her boring.
It was an underwhelming series mainly because of how over advertised it was before hand. It was not nearly as bad as people say it was, the series was just underwhelming but not bad. There are many stories that I would happily rewatch however there are episodes that I found just boring. Not terrible just boring.
The most boring experience I had sense Attack of the Clones
Literally the only "let's talk critically about Doctor Who Series 11" video I will ever watch, because I can be certain that you're not going to slip in snide "it's because they tried too hard to be PC" or whatever bullshit.
I personally really like Jodie's genial take on the Doctor, it feels very David Tennant to me, except with less angst (because no more "last of the Time Lords"). But yeah, while in theory the whole "back to basics, no big overarching season plot, just individual solid stories" conceit of the season was smart, in practice it makes it so that while it's never awful, it doesn't ever come close to the highest highs of the Davies and Moffat eras. But hey, now that we're warmed up, next season could be a real banger.
Also, while overall I suppose you're spot on with all your criticisms of Ghost Monument...that entire episode is worth it purely for the final scene of Jodie Whitaker being one step removed from passionately making out with the front door of the TARDIS.
I only liked the episode with the mirror dimension. The other episodes felt like they had a forced message and much more bad. The way they got rid of UNIT winded me up so much.
Edit: WHY DID JOURNALISTS THINK THE SCARF HAD A GAY MEANING?!?! IT IS CALLED A REFERENCE!
If you are arguing about diversity id think this is the channel where you would be talking about that.
Honestly, when I saw revolution I thought that because it was foreign funding and U.N.I.T. was around the world that it was a sting on America wanting to pull out of N.A.T.O, but I am American, so I could very well be wrong.
When you mention how the partition of India was the fault of the British, it was, but ti wasn't theirs alone, the people living their had people wanting a separate state for Muslims. In Sri Lanaka we did the opposite, giving all the power to one group when there were two groups on the island.
That glitchy frame is Quinton's o-face.
This is the first review of Series 11 that I've seen that was measured and thoughtful and didn't make me want to burn this website to the ground with its blatant racism and sexism
The Witchfinders aliens were peak Bad Russel T Davies era. (Not to say Davies whole run was bad. A lot was good)
Nicolas Young Agreed. That's something I thought of as I was watching it, that it felt the most like a Davies-era script, which I didn't mind as it framed it in my mind as a "so bad it's good" kinda way.
When it was revealed it was aliens the story was ruined for me. I was pulled out of the episode.
As a woman, I genuinely hated the idea of the Doctor being a woman and the series has not only confirmed my thoughts, but the writing is awful
Jodie Whittaker feels like a bad impression of matt smith
Well, they are playing the same character. But she felt like Jodie Whittaker to me.
@@bucwhovian8305 no each version is there own doctor. Why do you think they always fight when they meet each other.
lordbritannic they are their own version of the same character. Think of them as like a film remake.
@@bucwhovian8305 sorry but remakes and regenaration are completely different. Back to my point shes not made it her own in fact she seems of seen a couple matt smith episodes and "I'll just do that". Its not all her fault the writers have also not really given her much to stand out either
@@lordbritannic I think they are a fair comparison, they have the same basic elements to them in thems of what they do, it's just how they do them that is different. I've often felt like some doctors feel similar to others. Every Doctor from Tom Baker onwards has felt like they were trying to copy him. So I don't think it's too surprising that Jodie Whittaker feels a little similar to other Doctors, and maybe that's not such a bad thing. They have played it a little safer with this like series, but they will let rip a bit more next year, I'm sure of it.
Boring plots, bad writing, personality free main characters, shit villains, stand up Chris Chibnall, you’ve made Moffat’s run, and Nathan-Turners run look like golden ages
To counteract any shitlord comments: I appreciate your work and I'm hype whenever I see you've put out a new one! Keep it up!
I have higher hopes for future Doctor who than the way Chibnall writes now, I didn’t mind season 11, it was alright, but I didn’t finish season 12 or Flux, kind of went down hill with a few good moments. And Flux season, seemed slightly forced with some lines, the best thing that came out of Flux is Dan/ Evil Dan
Simple answer: yes
Long answer: yes but it's the writers and sometimes the actors that sort of make it dull
So glad you're back!! Awesome vid