Frank Zappa - Black Page #1 drum solo by Marco Minnemann
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- A few people asked me if I could play and post Frank Zappa's famous 'Black Page No.1' drum-solo. This is a piece Frank Zappa used to audition drummers with. It's completely written out and it's called the "black page", because once he finished writing it, the page kinda appeared black :-). To this day this composition remains one of the most challenging drum pieces.
So, thank you Frank Zappa. Here's The Black Page No.1
Bozzio learned this 36 years ago. At that time, it/he was unbelievable. I saw Bozzio with Zappa in '76. The Zoot Allures and Bongo Fury stuff he did was something else (and, he added the whole showmanship stuff). I saw Vinnie Colaiuta do it in a whole different band, and we all know VINNIE (my jaw hurt from hangin...haha). The band with Vinnie was much bigger. Chester Thompson was my favorite of all. And, when he and Ralph Humphrey played together was really special.
Vinnie SIGHT READ this piece basically
@@sweatter9214 No, he transcribed it when he was a student and memorized it. He sight-read Mo 'N Herb's Vacation, which is even more difficult.
and my favorite is Chad Wackerman. He did amazing parts during the long Zappa solos. St. Etienne for example.
That's insane! The way you keep that hi hat steady all the way through unwavering, while painting ridiculous poly-rhythms around it. Well done mate!
Damn man HAHA he should have yelled when he talked so that I didn't turn my speakers up really high and then almost break my ears when he started playing drums
You all understand that Zappa was a percussionist before he was a guitar player, correct? And that he was a composer? The Black Page is extremely complex in its usage of tuplets and nested tuplets. What Marco played here (fantastically, by the way) was only the drum solo section. There is a melody to this piece. Yes, it's strange, but that's Zappa.
He makes it look so easy! What a beast!!!
Agreed. Absolutely crazy. I'd hate to be neighbors with anyone learning this song lol
the melody playing in my head the whole time! lol! Zappa was a genious
Beautifully done sir, you have a lovely "feel" when you play.
Excellent stuff. Love it when folks tackle the Black Page.
Frank is my hero! Outstanding piece of work. Well done and thank you for this video Marco.
Only Marco can smile in the middle of this.... :)
Marco, you are always smiling and enjoying your work. Love your musicianship. BTW, I just discovered The Aristocrats. EXCELLENT!
The funny part is that those who can play the black page make it look easy. I mean, i heard the piece so much that i can recall all the parts from memory, but i'm pretty sure i'll be never be able to play this. Just the constant hi-hat is enough to make me want to give up the drums.
Great playing as always, Marco. One of the best drummers out there!
Bravo. You got the job! Enjoyed your performance in Jacksonville 8/2019. All the best.
Most pleasing! So, thank you, Marco, aswell.
I love this version!
I directed a music video for the "Freaking Fukin Weirdoz" way back in the 90s. I gave Marco a kind of toy drum set, cause it looked cool. Wasn't meant to be played, but he played the black page on it... I hated him ever since :)
It's nice to see a candid video of this! Like sitting next to someone who can play it. Thanks Marco!
Awsome, I enjoyed this very much. Fair play to you!
Masterful.
That was sooooo awesome!!!
Excellent.
Awesome mate,keep it up
Jason Becker Gabby...I've ALWAYS wished that Marco was around when Frank was alive...imagine a young Marco onstage with Steve Vai playing Frank's music.
Well, at least I have this!
Enjoy the video, bro-ski!
Cheers,
xo
You are amazing!
Minnemann is a Master!!! He is a true Artisan!! Dream Theater has Mangini...their loss!! Marco can play circles around him with a smile on his face!!!!!!
true.
and I still miss MP ...
I should let this go, it's not important. Both guys can do all the chops needed and then a lot more. You like one more than the other. That's all.
GREAT!
It's the steady quarter notes on the hi hat that are the hardest to keep going.
Try as I might, I can’t get my non-musician friends to understand just how difficult it is to play this piece!
Crazy how precise you shift those tuplets..😂
There's the Black Page (by Zappa) for drums, Fracture (by King Crimson)...impossible etudes for drums and guitar. Is there an equivalent for bass? An extremely difficult piece that you toil over, for months...years maybe.
Portrait of Tracy - Jaco?
someone finally said it! No disrespect though, Frank and Marco are amazing!
Not sure on (1), I think its a bit different in the end on the second run. Regarding (2), there are lots of pieces with that structure. Its a very common structure in jazz where you have a scheme with a set of chords and melody and just run trough it all the time, as long as preferred. Bright size life from Pat Metheny is an example.
Thanks!
It took me a while to notice that the structure of the piece is: repeating the whole thing again, so it "begins" one more time in the middle, and plays the whole thing again.
My questions: 1.) am I right on this? 2.) Is there any other piece in music history with this structure, I mean consisiting of "two sections", where the second is just the repetition of the first one?...
mmbalint binary form, pretty common in classical music
The band Death does this. After the solo, it basically repeats
i'm like really late but if you want another example of binary form then check out el tiempo está despues
Seen you playing this is just awsome...but seen you playing this by memory, makes me want to kill myself... lol.- Kidding, just AWSOME.
Very cool interp and from memory? Only MM!
Damn
You have one septuplet part dragging a bit but you played it perfectly
'Were you dragging or were you speeding?!'
***** Zappa WAS a percussionist. You must be trolling for adversarial replies. Either that or you know absolutely nothing about the man and his prolific catalogue of symphonic, rock, jazz, and experimental noise compositions.
His first appearance on tv was playing percussion, in his late teens/early 20s.
Zappa was a composer FIRST and foremost.
His polyrhythms were so intricate Steve Vai had to invent new notation marks in order to transcribe his music (You can find the transcriptions in early 1980's Guitar Player mags).
There's a reason a multitude of the best drummers and percussionists in the world played in Zappa's band.
You've got over 65 albums to choose from.
Everything Hank J. Levy taught is within those albums.
Envelopes.
Listen and learn, my dear.
;)
Trolling trolling trolling....
nice
Hi. Great job as always. I was wondering where you got that transcription. I've been looking online and haven't found a nonmelodic transcription that seemed accurate.
sounds like one of those videos where someone transcribes a random video into a drum solo
Geniooooo
Nice playing Marco. I'm guessing the best way to start learning this would be to work in a triplet 8th note subdivision through out? Again really nice playing :D
Hey there's renditions frank keep sreaky. Check him
Your neighbours must love you.
Fantastic. Is Marco playing a Ludwig Supraphonic? It looks like a Ludwig.
Is your kit setup in the kitchen!?
I mean if the best reverb in the house is achieved there...
Marco,
Sorry for coming late to the party. Perfect. Have you done 2 and 3?
Hey Marco! What cam are you using? Thanks!
Great piece played very well. But hard to dance to.
Holy shit the 3:10 part
He could be totally fooling around and I'd never know the difference
Any chance for us fellow youtubers to see this video ?
Quality is pretty poor but do a search for: Nina Hagen & Freaky Fukin Weirdoz - Hit Me
This is not MUSIC it is MATH in the form of Sound
Well I guess you would have been hired then.
Did he just say 11-tuplets? wwwwwwwwwwwat?
Zappa might have got the punch line of following with Black Page No. 2 from Middle Eastern Bedouin music. Which he did listen to. When that starts off, it sounds like horrible drums with a badly tuned rhythm section until suddenly the vocals do the melody, then it sounds more like something a westerner can follow and make sense of, all of a sudden. Like the Black Page 1 and then 2, the easy teenage New York version.
Start over. You missed a quarter beat on the 12th measure
to quite. next
very easy piece ha ha ha
"You really thing a guitarist can write a good percussion solo?" Can a piano-based composer write for orchestra? Was Debussy restricted by his instrument being the piano making Syrinx a poor flute solo? How totally stupid and pointless. Dunning-Kruger Effect proved again. Can an ignoramus criticize brilliance?
Tbh this sounds like complete ass. This is what happens when you make music complicated for the sake of being complicated. It comes out awful. Half of it sounded identical to having someone who has never played drums before sit down and hit stuff randomly
This was used to audition Zappa's drummers. Research the topic before you right shit about something.
i know nothing about music but this doesnt look that hard...
i have seen more intense drum solos. but again i dont know
Edit: i still dont know much about music. but i seen another cover of the black page and that other cover looked much harder than this guy's cover. so maybe he is doing an easier slower version of the black page??
Yes, it's clear you don't know anything about music or drumming. There's a reason Frank Zappa wrote this to audition his drummers and music isn't about being easy or difficult either.
When you have drummers such as Marco Minnemann and Terry Bozzio saying this is a complex piece to play, your uneducated opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant.
@@Lu-ql this comment already aged horribly i now know what makes this so hard. And it is quite hard, i really wanted to learn what made this piece so hard. And i did learn
@@Lu-ql its the little details of the piece that makes it so difficult. There are so many little details that can be easily missed, and you need to nail all of them
Never got into Zappa. Probably because it's weird, unique, but in the end it sucks.
trust me, this thing is overrated.You really thing a guitarist can write a good percussion solo? Any drum instructor can write a better one, meaning this would be one of the worst out there!
Sebastian Victor Micu what a poisonous, ignorant thing to say. “Trust me”? No, I’ll trust my own ears. You stand on the shoulders of the greats, ALL of whom revere Frank because they’re educated to how incredible he was. I watched your drum cover vid and watched you play the same fill 4 times and follow it with silly stick spins like you were happy with yourself. You’re a decent drummer, though very contrived, and you miss the point, which is communicating with others.. it shows in your playing and your words.
Go pick up Zappa - Joe’s Garage, and start your Zappa journey.
Humble yourself, lose a couple cymbals, quit twirling your sticks, tighten up your right foot, learn to respect legends, and MAYBE you’ll be great. There are few truly great creators.
One of the biggest ignorants comment ever.
oh man you really are stupid
Play a succession of two 5-tuplets and a 6-tuplet within a triplet followed by two 11-tuplets then talk shit
i want to hear you play it better than zappa