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Jon don't even ask anyone to bend the knee, he just asks them for help saving the realms of men.
watching people grapple with Dany executing the Tarly's is so funny
Sophie saying what most of us are thinking... "I wish i could walk outta work like that." 🤣🤣
Dany was absolutely right. The Tarlys betrayed their liege lords (the Tyrells) for their own greed (Jaime promised them they could rule the Reach).
They refused the Wall so death is the only option. It's what every ruler would do including the Starks. It's what Jon did to Janos Slynt.
As for Tyrion, he's good Hand during peace time but a shit Hand during war. Ellaria was right. He doesn’t have the stomach for war and is weak. And a hypocrite because he burnt alive thousands of Stannis' men.
Also, I'll point out Targaryens love incest. They wed brother to sister for years. So aunt/nephew isn't a big deal. Dany's parents (Jon's paternal grandparents) were brother and sister. As were their parents.
The Starks are the second most inbred family after the Targaryens. Ned's parents were first cousins. And Starks have married uncle to niece before.
"say what you want about Cersei, but she was born in Westeros." SO WAS DANY
Yes and no
@@perseusveil9376 She was born on Dragonstone
@@boogabuga7657 Which was originally considered culturally and politically the seat of a valyrian family. So yes and no.
@@perseusveil9376 Yeah, the same family that Randyll Tarly served for the majority of his life. The same family that had been living in Westeros for hundreds of years.
@@boogabuga7657 So as I said, yes and no.
an important thing to note is that in both books and series, all the Stark children love each other but pound for pound Arya is more connected to Jon and likes him more than any of her other siblings. so she's naturally inclined to defend him at anything before anyone else
Good GRRM didn't add the arc of Jon/Arya incestship... the series already had enough of that.
21:52 Sophie is so done with seeing Jon being on or beyond the Wall 😂
People always forget that Dany gave them an option to not bend the knee and still live - she gave them the option to go to The Wall and they refused. THEY chose death over following Dany or being stripped of their titles - she didn't choose for them. & every single Stark would've done the same thing as Dany, especially Ned lol.
even Jon didn't give Janos slynt a choice, he beheaded him while he was begging for mercy and saying he changed his mind.
Daenerys gave them 3 options
@@Nihilanth You seriously gonna defend literal genocide? u that tribal?
@@thejumper7282 gen·o·cide
"the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular ***nation or ethnic group*** with the ***aim of destroying that nation or group***."
Daenerys did none of that 💖
and tribal? you're the American here, my friend
@@Nihilanth Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group.
So danny is threatening genocide to those who won't accept her rule.
Also I'm Austrian im kinda a genocide expert.
@@thejumper7282 so which group is Dany trying to destroy just because of their nationality, ethnicity or religion, exactly?
did she burn the Tarlys cause they wouldn't bend the knee or cause she didn't like their race / religion? is she trying to end house tarly or she's just trying to stablish her power?
“It is said that your father is a good man. If so, I pity him. Some men are blessed with sons, some with daughters... No man deserves to be cursed with such as you.”
-Randyll Tarly to Brienne of Tarth.
I ain't feeling bad for that guy. Dany cooked him medium rare as she should!
Especially in the books when she’s nearly assaulted he said some wild stuff
Dang. Where did that interaction take place? I totally have no recollection of that...
@@D.A.Sandoval-qo9mhat maidenpool while brienne is searching for sansa
And in books in Robert Rebellion he was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂
@@Superfoczka1 exactly!!
Cersei should have listened to her dad when he told her she wasn't as smart as she thought she was. She is power hungry and she uses fear and intimidation to be in control.
Sophie is Mad Queen 😂
😂 Burn them All. She been saying it this season.
Literally the best feeling getting off Night Shift taking a shower laying down seeing you posted a video
I see Cersei for who she is. She’s absolutely awful and she deserves any pain she has coming to her. I’m with you Sophie. I’m tired of people defending Cersei. I can’t stand her. Gilly’s comment was a game changer guys. Think about it. Loved y’alls reactions and commentary as always.
She’s a narcissistic sociopath no sympathy for anyone and no empathy not even for her own brothers feelings
thank you so much. i know this is a late comment but it’s ridiculous how people “give her props” just because they think she’s “smart” when she literally blew up hundreds of people and was an evil woman the whole showand then get mad at dany when she does something little compared to cersi calling her a mad queen. shit crazy
I agree with Mair. That is not Bran anymore. That is the three eyed Raven.
Good riddance to those Tarly idiots, them and that army literally betrayed their leige lord Olenna, switched sides to join the Lannister, and then wiped out house Tyrell, Dany's ally. Giving these backstabbers the option to join her was nice enough already. This is war, so yes, you either join or die for killing her ally! &Tyrion acting all brand new when he has no issue using Wild Fire against Stannis' army. And Sophie is 100% right about Dany's counselors, she really should have just gone with her own plan to fly to the red keep and get rid of Cersei to begin with, would have avoided so much time and lives lost, Tyrion's counsels as her hand has been straight Ls so far
oh Gendry and Jon. Son of Robert Baratheon and the son of Lyanna Stark. I always found that ironically poetic.
What’s the impact of Jon’s parents being married before his birth? His last name can’t be Snow and he’s not a bastard. You caught the information but didn’t seem to realize the gravity of it.
I still think Tywin was in on the plot to kill Joffrey. In episode season 3 episode 4, Cersei said to Tywin, "Perhaps you should stop him from doing what he likes." and Tywin said, "I will." The way he said it spoke VOLUMES. Plus he threatened to cripple Joffrey.
When you realise Gendry's father kill Jon's father...
"the way they write in this show, i cant read it" cursive? hahahahaha
Do they not teach cursive anymore?
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Danny just executed the father and brother of the man that saved Sur Jorah's life.
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
Why do people continue to think that Jon is the rightful heir to the throne? Robert Baratheon was on the throne when he died. So it would be any of his heirs that are the rightful heir.
He has no heirs??????? He only has bastards...Jon is not a bastard and the only basis of Roberts Rebellion that won him the throne was based on a lie that Ragar Kidnapped Jon's mom
Choice? Do what i say or die, lol.
thats what kings and queens do, its what they are. otherwise you have a president or prime minister. voted in. you dont vote for a monarch.
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
Y’all need to work on not talking over each other. Even if it’s what you do in private we can either not hear or one person’s entire point doesn’t get voiced/ completed.
yeah tyrion didn't always have the best advice. i know that's his sister, but it's like she tries to be the bigger person and look what happens every time when dany listens to him? fuck that.
I’m shocked that so many younger people can’t read or write cursive.
If someone says “join me or die” and you refuse to join, whose fault is it that you died? You had the option to not die but didn’t take it.
I never understood why Dany took the approach of forcing someone to join her. They won’t be loyal if you force them to join you. So i completely understood why the Tarlys chose to die.
@@Liz33991 She wasn't forcing them, she gave them the option. If she was forcing them she would've taken them as prisoners or slaves but she knew if she did that, they wouldn't be loyal to her so she gave the option, anyone who was willing to bend the knee would join her the other would have to die. It's as simple as that, they had a choice and they made it.
@@michellehawk282 I understand what you’re saying. But the “choice” is death or join someone you don’t believe in. Not much of a choice. 🤷🏻♀️ 😊 doesn’t really encourage loyalty.
@@Liz33991 What else would she have done though? Letting them go would've ensured her more enemies and we all know they would've tried to kill her. It was either them or her so she gave them the opportunity to choose and they did. You can't really blame her for their death as eventually they chose it themselves.
Ned would have taken their heads for their betrayal to the Tyrells, but for some reason it’s a problem if she does it.
33:40 I wouldn't say the Targaryean rule was peaceful, it had peaceful times, but it also had horrific times.
I don't know if sofie and mair picked up that dany just burned sams father and brother
they mentioned that in there somewhere. They caught who it was.
28:53
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
Hasn't Danny's way of ruling the entire show been demanding "bend the knee or die"?
she freed the unsullied, and said you can follow me or leave. that is not bend the knee.
@@robertrossiter346only to slaves, not to the masters or the people of Yunkai. Granted, they were (from the audience’s perception), “bad people” but do not pretend the Tarly’s are the 1st ppl she’s burned. In the end - it’s her way or die.
no, watch it again
@@Taewills as she should. imagine if she was like "hey **slavers** you can either follow me or go and do whatever you want"
@@Taewills”to the audience’s perception”? they WERE all horrible people and they deserved to die in a worse way than they did.
Cersei knows how to manipulate Jamie by saying she's pregnant.
This episode always makes for such a revealing example of how tribalism works and how people end up falling for maniacal tyrants in real life. Once people decide they are rolling with someone they will just rationalize and justify anything that happens. Honestly acting like "She gave them a choice" makes her point morally valid is really something. Yes, she gave some complete strangers who have absolutely no reason to have allegiance to her the choice between being her slave or burning alive. She's on about the same level as Melissandre in that case, an evil psychopath.
They betrayed their liege lords. In this world, the correct punishment is death. Ned would have taken their heads.
@@shawnboyer3267 Ned doesn’t pass commands and swing swords for others
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side and she told her dragon to burn them so it basically works as doing it herself 😊😂😂😂😂😂
There're 2 great movies where "Tyrion" is, they're "Three billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri" and "Pixels".
lol, they had a gun to their head
She should’ve sent the Tarlys to the wall. She could’ve held them as hostages. The choice was so stupid
Bravo.
Sophie, Sophie, Sophie 😂😂. You literally said “Dani isn’t getting people to follow her by force” but just last episode you were cheering when she told Sam’s father to bend the knee or die 😂😂😂. Dani fans are as bad as Sansa fans. Y’all wear those blinders on your eyes hard and only see the good…never the bad or the reality, just the good. Smh
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They didn't have a choice ... they had an ultimatum ... do X or die. Literally, if someone told you "Do X, or die," would you consider that "a choice"? No. You would consider it a demand from a tyrant. You both just stan so damn hard for Dany that you're blind.
regardless it is a CHOICE. you get two options you choose from one. bam…. choice
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Be a slave or get burned alive. I mean, bro, you had a choice! C'mon. People feel like they need to defend every action by Dany. She's extremely flawed.
@@penguin50279 Tyrion offered an alternative. who cares. You Dany simps are cray lol.
@@lagronemikalliterally
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations witch Ned would chop their heads off and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
"They had a choice"😂😂😂😂
Bend the the knee or Die not much of a choice really.
Agreed. When all the power of the choice (including your own life) is in the hands of the other) there is no real choice. It's the same as someone putting a gun to your head who says "Your money or your life". Yes, you can choose to give up your life, but your life is still on the hands of the person who just robbed you at gunpoint.
Also... ruling by fear is not a good way to rule. People will never really respect a leader they fear. Before long, they will grow tired of living in fear. And when they've had enough, they will either leave under peril of death, or they will gather together and plot to overthrow and kill their evil leader.
@@NovaLena22I I mean within this context it is a choice. You can go back on your oath to the current ruler, dishonour yourself but keep your life or you don't break your oath and bend the knee and the person who beat you in open battle will give you a clean and quick death and you keep your honour. Now to me and you this oath stuff is less important than our lives but in that world of westeros oaths and honour are more important than their lives.
I will say, I found Dany to be a hypocrite here because she isn't breaking the wheel or the system, she is merely placing herself at the top of the wheel and she is doing through violent means. So how is she any different from any other ruler these people have had?
@@Freya1412 I agree with you about Dany. It does seem as if "breaking the wheel" was something she intended to do only after she won the throne. Very similar to people in the corporate world who climb up the ladder of success, and who burn the ladder behind them once they reach the top so that no one else can climb and unseat them.
It's war, thats kinda how it goes
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations witch Ned would chop their heads off and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
Denarys was acting just as bad as Stannis was and y’all loved giving him shit.
“Bend the knee or I’ll kill you” is something that Stannis and Denarys did.
“Comment what y’all want, they made a choice” yet Denarys also made a choice. To spare them or to kill them.
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations witch Ned would chop their heads off and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
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They did not have a choice! It was Danny's way or death, she is choosing to Rule by fear not love, or devotion
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations witch Ned would chop their heads off and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
Are you guys watch the prequel to game of thrones??
I can't stand cersi or dany, I only care about jon and arya, they don't need dragon's or cruelty😊
I love the dragons & want Jon to bond with one just as much as he’s bonded with ghost
Jon didn’t need cruelty but he did need a witch to literally bring him back to life 😆
@@bigpictureguys8415 fu
saying arya isn't cruel is questionable
@@boogabuga7657 is it tho
ᴄᴀɴ ʏᴏᴜ ʀᴇᴀᴄᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴠɪᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴄʟᴏɴᴇᴅ ᴛʏʀᴏɴᴇ ?
Sophie, Dany literally just forced an army of people to bend the knee or die. It wasn't like when she gave the Dothraki's a choice to follow her or go their own way. Dany wants to rule as much as Cersei does and she's starting to become more ruthless.
Same thing all the great families, including the Starks, did to the other families in their respective Kingdoms then. Nothing new here. Good on Dany.
@@icechocYES ! Pls she gave them the option to go to the wall something that ceresi wouldn’t have granted them.
@@icechoc the world dany wants to build is of mercy, if so why praise her Antics. She failed then
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations witch Ned would chop their heads off and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations witch Ned would chop their heads off and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
I noticed that y’all are cheering the brutal choice’s Danny makes because it shows strength. Remember that “fear” in leadership isn’t always a virtue… sometimes it is seen as force. Some may think Danny is forcing them to bend the knee through fear. Danny set out to give people a choice ie. Missande, Greyworm and the unsullied. She gave them a choice to follow her. Now things have changed… why?! It can’t be just because they’re in Westeros. The people of Westeros are suffering under unjust rule and yet Danny still wants to force them to serve her instead. For the most part, she’s being cheered for it too. Be careful that you don’t advocate for brutal tactics just to sit on a throne. Does the outcome really justify the means at which you obtain it? When it came to the Tarly’s.. y’all confidently said “they had a choice”. Yes… so did Danny. Just sayin that things aren’t so black and white
The Tarly betrayed the house they were sworn to fight for for generations witch Ned would chop their heads off and In Roberts Rebellion the father was fighting for Targaryens side 😂😂😂😂😂
Cersei and Dany are equally villainous. They both think that ruling by fear is good. And they are both willing to kill anyone for power.
Equally ? Are u sure we're watching the same show ? Lmao
equally??? you watched the show with your eyes closed.
@@Brrowny You're right, Dany might be worse since she terrorized two continents instead of just one.
@@Siegmeyer. so season 8 made you forget all the good dany did during 6 seasons ? And even if we're just considering season 8, cersei is still 10 times worse 💀
@@Brrowny two wrongs don’t make it right. You act like she didn’t kill innocent people and children
jorah original side dude
Sophie knows what's up. In my opinion Tyrion is not fit for the role. He's mind is not in the right place and he lacks experience.
Sophie your points 🔥 this show is very biased and favors certain characters however I’m going to always ride behind Dany. 🤷🏾♀️
She’ll be ruling over a grave
@@thecreatordiesalone8703 aye a queen is a queen 🤷🏾♀️
Unfortunately, this is where the show goes off book and jumps the shark. Shame, shame, shame...
Worst.....episode.....ever......( until the next one ) in the worst......season......ever.
That warhammer was king Robert’s he won the battle of the trident with, against Rhaegar but how did his bastard windup with it?!?! No one knows haha
?? It’s never implied that it’s the same hammer. It’s just a hammer
@@chrisb.8758why all the Baratheon regalia on it then? And how many other hammers are referenced in the show?
@@fattymatty9319because Gendry made it himself?
@@chrisb.8758 agreed, gendry found out who his father was, and then made a hammer with his fathers coat of arms on it, and since he is a blacksmith hammer is perfect weapon, coupled with its the same weapon as his father king.
@@chrisb.8758 so you assume he made it but never stated he made it, but you won’t assume it’s his dad’s even though it was referenced a few times in the first half of the show? Curious