John MacArthur, Russell Moore, & Uganda’s New LGBT Laws
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- A brief word about Russel Moore, John MacArthur, Eschatology, and Uganda’s new LGBT laws. Watch the full sermon here: • If Christ Has Enemies,...
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#uganda #preaching #macarthur
I love Macarthur, and his commentaries are excellent.
I'd encourage folks to listen to that sermon about 'losers' completely for context.
Right Response keeps barking up the wrong tree. A lot of people are real quick to attack MacArthur, even though he has been bold in defending the scripture for decades. The problem with modern churches isnt eschatology or a lack of political activism. The problem is a lack of Holiness (greed, sexual immorality, gossip...) and no REALLY believing God's Word.
@@sanders194539 but if the bible teaches a different eschatology, one of not losing down here... But one of the gates of hell shall not prevail... Then that is a case of not believing what the God's Word says.
I think of those that spied out the land God promised. All but Joshua and Caleb saw the scary situation and shrunk with fear. Joshua and Caleb believed God. In a similar way, God has promised and given the order to disciple the nations, and ask of me and I will give the nations as your inheritance. The Postmil are believing God on those promises while the premils see a scary world and say "we look like grasshoppers to them, we will lose".
@@philipmurray9796 well said and good observation 👏🏻
Seems we’ve been exiled for a time (circling the desert) for our doubting of God & his promises…
@philipmurray9796
The gates of hell shall not prevail, of course.
But we aren't the ones that will achieve that victory. As you know, that will be His victory alone.
'Losing' as MacArthur explains isn't meant to be taken in the most radically cynical way as this fellow constantly attempts to convey.
@@larrymondello7488 go make disciples, teaching them to obey, and he is with us til the end of the age. That's the victory. A sure one. Done through the church. It's not a failed mission that Jesus must rescue.
God will most definitely honor Uganda because they are standing up for the Word
I hope you go live in Uganda. You might hum a different tune. The view of evil shit up close does wonders for perspective. Uganda is sickening to do this. You guys supporting it makes me realize I was so right to abandon this religion. A collection of hypocrites and fables.
Amen. Can we move there? lol
@@OGDreamer right?!
Imagine promoting the murder of defenseless unborn babies and whining other countries don't groom kids to be molested also🧐
Italy as well, for banning alphabet soup month.
I’ve followed you for a long time. I really appreciate your ministry. Although there may be some disagreements with JMac, you aren’t doing yourself a favor by constantly beating on him. You’ve done it since letting people know you were actually first to open your church snd not JMac during covid and now his Premil Pretrib view. I understand your points with him, and I think your other videos directly addressing his statements are fair and worth debating. But to bring him up in the same context with Moore and others and those who called our Uganda isn’t fair pastor.
Thanks for making that point. I notice there was no mention of this pastor facing threats and fines for opening his church like Dr. MacArthur faced. Takes no courage when there are no threats.
Yea I agree
I think I’m going to unsubscribe after this one
Been on the cusp for a while
Pastor Joel is right though. He's pointing out MacArthurs contradictions. I still use my JMac ESV and love the man, but I believe he's woefully incorrect in his eschatology.
@C P Its not that. It just getting tired.
Thats all.
@CP-dk8oi See, you are missing the point here. I made it very clear that his other videos explaining his disagreements with JMac is fine. I’m all for thst. But to lump JMac and his eschatology in with those slamming Uganda’s homosexual laws is ridiculous and wrong. It paints a picture JMac’s eschatology leads to people being against laws about homosexuality. Whether he meant that or not, it was a poor move. JMac is not above being called out when wrong. But Guess what…..neither is Pastor Joel Webbon.
Matt 5:43-48 Jesus says that we are to love our enemies. John 10:18 Jesus says no one takes His life, but He lays it down by his own accord. Eph 6 says our battle is not against flesh and blood, but spiritual. This guy is preaching heresy.
Johnny Mac was simply pointing out that we aren't celebrated, affirmed, encouraged, etc but rather are persecuted, cancelled, mocked, etc. Joel continues to hammer on John about his comment during one of his sermons but I believe that he is misinterpreting what John was getting at. At least I didn't take it as Christians are literal losers or that our salvation isn't considered a "win". I listened to that sermon and countless others from John. John doesn't have a loser theology. I don't know if Joel is trying to create an argument for the sake of UA-cam likes or is just trying to argue for argument sake. Whatever his thoughts are, he is entitled to his opinion about John's comments. As for me, I believe John is a God fearing, Bible preaching man who does not scratch those easy believism itching ears that so many people want to hear from Pastors (ie: no repentance required, no surrender required, no forsaking the world). Instead, he preaches the truth and what people need to hear (repentance, forsaking the world, surrender, etc). God has used John to preach God's word in language that is easy to understand without compromising truth.
John said "we lose down here" because he's premil and has a pessimistic view of the world and the direction it's headed in. That things will get soo bad that Jesus will have to come down and rescue the church before judgement.
@@philipmurray9796 Well Phillip, that's your take. I've personally listened to countless sermons that are also uplifting and positive. You can hammer on him like the rest but there is no changing my mind on his call by God to preach His word.
@@philipmurray9796 oh, you are right in saying that things are going to get that bad. In fact, a lot worse than we think.
@@philipmurray9796 and yes John did say those words to reflect how bad things are going to get. Which revelations reflects.
@@PapaPoohBear962 what if much of Revelations has already happened? Why did the writers and Jesus give such urgency if it wouldn't come to pass in thousands of years? It doesn't make sense in a literal understanding.
Rebuking a woke world-loving sellout and then a pre mil dispensationalist in the same message with the same tone seems a little less than discerning.
You used to be on a good track Pastor. I, like many others used to like your messages. People are taking note and talking about how you have lost sight and focus of what is truly important. We see you. You’re not onto any new groundbreaking ideas that will change what is already set in action. Learn to humble yourself. Your arrogance and ignorance will be your decline. We are praying for you. Also, Sorry to say Pastor, you will never be as great as John MacArthur. Especially with your new current attitude and outlook. Not sure what this new found obsession is with taking shots at him? Have a little more respect. It’s okay to disagree with ideas. You are kind of acting like a child that isn’t getting enough attention. It’s not a good look for your ministry.
It's sad but these guys want to take down giants like Macarthur, but sadly they are chasing windmills. Anyone who faithfully listens to Macarthur actually knows what he believes.
Do you know Museveni?
Do you know that the law calls for the imprisonment of homosexuals just because they - or someone else - says they are Homosexual?
And death, if upon release, there is no repentance?
You know Jesus stands between those throwing stones, and those the stones are killing?
Do you know who Museveni is? And what he is doing to Ugandans?
And you say this - is God's work?
May God have Mercy on your soul
God bless
John MacArthur is one of the best contemporary pastors/theologians.
Russell Moore is neither of those things (nor is he a Christian).
Praise God for Uganda.
I love MacArthur. He is doctrinally premil-dispensational, but in practice he is one of the best and boldest post-mil men alive. While claiming that “we lose down here”, he stomped the evil state of California in a legal battle during Covid. 😂 MacArthur’s inconsistency is the best kind.
@@matthewdyer2926 He’s good for sure.
“Romans 13” during 2020-2022 brought out either the best in pastors (MacArthur, James Coates, Tim Stevens), or the worst in pastors (Andy Stanley, Tim Keller).
@@matthewdyer2926 he shut down at first tho..he is very inconsistent
@@ItalicusHammer And he admitted he was wrong (which he certainly was).
🙏🏻 Amen brother
Alright, I’m sure you won’t care but I’m out. Although we differ on eschatology and I can suffer that with humor and good will I cannot suffer the frequent attacks on one of the longest serving faithful Bible expositors in our lifetime. Especially when your attacks are based from a video taken out of context. I have no doubt that your pride and arrogance will leave you no room for critique or Grace for someone like me who is voicing their opposition to your behavior. But take this for what it’s worth, it takes nothing to get into a conflict but it does take the Holy Spirit to show grace and work with the people doing the Lord’s work. Pride comes before a fall, perhaps stepping out of the echo chamber and recognizing that it takes no courage or skill to alienate and attempt to offend other brothers in Christ who you will spend eternity with glorifying God. I’ll accept your apology on our way up during the rapture. Rebuke a wise man and he will be wiser still, rebuke a fool and he will hate you. I’m open to your rebuke if you find me wrong. But I’d stop attacking fellow brothers who have faithfully exposited Scripture longer than your parents have been alive.
THE GREAT AWAKENING 2.0 IS HERE. I'm ready to die for it.
But are you ready to live for it?
I hear many saying they’re ready to die for it when they won’t even live for it.
@@christophercunningham5434 100% Brother. Living it now.
@@christophercunningham5434 that's not me.
@@OGDreamer I wish we had more like you! With time the sheep are waking up.
"If you ever been told that you are a Christian nut... if not, WHY NOT?" R.C. Sproul
I like the stance of Ps Joel Webbon on cultural and biblical issues and like listening to him but I don't understand why he never fails to preface his name with the title Pastor but everybody else only occasionally. What is the reasoning or tradition behind that? Is this a Texas cultural thing or just a personal habit? I ask because it smarts of self-promotion to me/having a big ego, to me. The apostle Paul only adds the title Apostle to references to himself in the beginning of his letters perhaps to authenticate which Paul is writing to them or assert to his opponents that he is an apostle. When he authenticated himself at the end of one epistle he wrote I Paul, write this with my own hands. So what is so kryponite about a pastor just referring to himself by his given names without the title? What could he be confused for if he doesn't proclaim that he's a Pastor?
I love hearing good news 😃
Because God Jesus Christ optimistic and victorious Gospel is going forward and being accomplished!
Amen.
I will give your book a read but I have one question: Does it address the needs of believers who elect to stay (or cannot relocate) and the meeting of their spiritual needs?
Good morning, do you have a full video of the sermon?
Hello - you can find the full sermon here: ua-cam.com/video/GQkwDdaZvgU/v-deo.html
Joel speaks of rich irony. He say here all premills and amills "believe that Christ wins" ua-cam.com/video/FS-t0Gd1w3o/v-deo.html, but then harps on JM, not giving him the benefit of the doubt, and his "loser theology"? That seems pretty ironic to me. In the least completely inconsistent. Then taking a clip from JM, not considering the context, and bringing him up with Russell Moore. Joel gets so upset and plays victim on twitter if he has a clip go around that he feels is out of context but he's quick and willing to knock on somebody else in such a bad faith way without context (somebody else who has served faithfully and been faithful to scripture for decades). THAT is some rich irony.
John MacArthur is a faithful man of God. Bad form pastor.
He is a pre millennial Zionist allied to an evilanti Christian government because of their worldly geography. He's waiting for a 3rd coming. You don't know god just a macarthur minion
Peter is a faithful man of God. Bad form Paul.
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If we care about scriptural truth, we should not hold any man above reproach, but should welcome iron sharpening iron and challenges to our believes and conduct. I love MacArthur, but I agree that he is wrong on these issues and should be called out for it. If Joel or I are wrong, someone should call out where it is wrong, not just treat pastors as idols that are above correction or reproach. There are many teachers I respect greatly and have learned a lot from, and yet every single one has a position on some doctrine or another that I think is incorrect. No human is going to have perfect theology.
Agree with MacArthur.
“But on that very night, the Lord stood at his side and said, “Take courage; for as you have solemnly borne witness to My cause at Jerusalem, so you must bear witness at Rome also.””
Acts 23:11 LSB
Jesus told Paul what he was going to do, therefore Paul had the same faith that Abraham did because God doesn’t lie. If Jesus is King it is because He said so. God doesn’t lie. Is He King or isn’t He? There are only 2 options and only one answer is true. YES. Then…on our knees before the King of Kings! My life is yours forever more, my Saviour and King.
Love this. Great job Pastor Joel
Well said Joel. I think you're right. I wish Dr. Macarthur would reconsider his outlook. I think it is high time that the Christians in the West understand that being a Christian will cost them earthly comfort, but we win the earth back in the end, when Christ's enemies have been put under His feet. Fight now, rest later, not the other way round.
You are one of those people who did not think deeply about what Macarthur said regarding his statement. We are commanded to go out and proclaim the gospel, knowing they hated Christ and would also hate us. The commandment for the disciples and us is to preach the gospel and be persecuted for proclaiming the Gospel. Macarthur wrote an open letter to California's governor for using Christ's name to promote abortion. The master's seminary was threatened by the state government with a withdrawal of college grant for the seminary that doesn't affirm LGBTQ.
God Bless Uganda!!
"If Christ has enemies. Why do Christians not have enemies?" The obvious observation is that Christ's enemies are not being consumed. Since Christ is not consuming His enemies today, should Christians consume their enemies today? At Christ's return with all His armies described for us in Rev 19:11-21 look very carefully at the actors in the battle. It is Christ alone, Who by the sword of His mouth, destroys the armies of the beast and the false prophet (verse 21). The great heavenly host merely watches the Lord Jesus Christ exercise His power and authority. Is our battle any different? "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places." There is no scriptural support of the church militant. Ours is a spiritual battle to present the gospel to those who are under "...the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience."
AMEN!!! I was about to post something like this. Joel loves his own opinion more than Scripture!
You’re quite wrong, Robert. You should revisit Revelation and read the whole book. Then read the whole rest of your Bible.
@@matthewdyer2926 Well that's rather "weak tea", as they say, for a response. I am almost 72 years old and have been a Christian since I was 9 years old. I have read Revelation more through many more times than you might expect and have been doing so since long before Joel was a twinkle in his father's eye. How old are you my friend and how much Bible study have you done? How's your Greek? Hebrew? Friendly banter aside, each of us has a system that we support and it is not an empty bag on either of our parts. In over 50 years of Bible study I have pondered all of the eschatological systems and have come conclusion that the postmil system is the weakest.
@@Saratogan As for “weak tea”, what you’ve just done is the logical fallacy known as “appeal to authority”. The age, experience, and credentials of an individual have no bearing or effect on the truthfulness of their claim; that is to say, we can be old and wrong at the same time.
What I wrote was, as you stated, some “weak tea”, as I didn’t offer any substantive argument; I’ll grant you that.
This is why I said you are quite wrong-
Christ’s enemies are, this moment, being put under His feet as He is reigning at the right hand of God the Father.
“The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.” The LORD sends forth from Zion your mighty scepter. Rule in the midst of your enemies!” - Psalm 110:1,2
This rule began at Christ’s resurrection and ascension and continues today. Some of Christ’s enemies are put under his feet by means of conversion to God, and some are put under his feet by means of death followed by damnation. The progress of the Gospel and the success of the Great Commission are always putting Christ’s enemies under His feet.
Secondly, I ask you what is “the sword of Christ’s mouth”? It is almost universally agreed that sword is the Word of God, which has been given to the Church as our only _offensive weapon_ against our enemies. (Ephesians 6:17) I suggested you read the rest of Revelation because you didn’t mention this part-
“And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb _and by the word of their testimony,_ for they loved not their lives even unto death”
The same sword which comes from Christ’s mouth is wielded against Christ’s enemies by Christ’s faithful people. No, we do not just stand around and watch; we _participate_ in the warfare.
As for your use of Ephesians 6:12, this is what you seem to miss- humans are not _only_ composed of flesh and blood. They are also spirit, and while they are unregenerate, they are the spiritual enemies of Christ and Christ’s people. This is so plain and clear throughout all scripture, I hope you won’t make me copy and paste all the references. Since you’ve been studying as long as you have, this point should be easily accepted.
The battle is “spiritual” in the sense that “our weapons are not carnal”, meaning physical swords or guns. The weapon of the Church militant is the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. If the church did not have enemies, God would not have given us His sword.
What you’re describing is an impotent and effeminate divergence from the historic and orthodox Christian faith.
@@matthewdyer2926 , We are not going to change each other's position on this. I state that because I it believe it to be true. The old adage is true: "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." My appeal to age is only to state that I have thought long and hard over many years about the eschatological position that I take. In other words, I am not a neophyte. BTW, Paul in his description of a church leader calls them πρεσβύτερος which we translate as elder. So, fallacy or not according to Aristotelian logic, it is biblical. Paul says to Titus "Rebuke not an elder sharply, but exhort him as a father...". I have examined them all: preterist, postmil, amil premil and have arrived at premil as the most consistent with all of scripture. Within premil, there is also pretrib, midtrib and posttrib. I have come to the conclusion that pretrib is the most consistent with all of scripture.
Just an observation on your quote from Psalm 110: "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.” What do you think that "until" means? Is it right then? At a future point in time? When will that be?
Here's another thing to think about. In Matthew 19 the Lord says to the 12: "...ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." As a postmil, you must believe that that has already happened. When was that? Here's another to think about. In the restoration (of the Davidic kingdom, the millennium) Zechariah prophesy says that "In those days [it shall come to pass], that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard [that] God [is] with you." As postmil, you need to point to a time in history when this happened.
One more just for grins. Zechariah also prophesizes: "Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain. Thus saith the LORD of hosts; There shall yet old men and old women dwell in the streets of Jerusalem, and every man with his staff in his hand for very age. And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof." This is kingdom reign. It is Jewish focused reign. It is when the 12 apostles of the Lamb sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel. As I understand postmil doctrine, it does not allow for anything Jewish like this. Covenant theology does not allow for this. It must all be made allegory or the eschatological position collapses.
That is where we fundamentally differ. I believe this all will be literally fulfilled and you don't.
Great message but that chaos in the background is outrageous.
Somebody needs to take those crying babies out & get them calmed down.
Totally irreverent!
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."
Matthew 24:36-39
Pastor Joel, tell me again how the world will keep getting better and better upon Christ's return. Someone forgot to give that memo to Jesus. 😂
Are you saying that the things described in that passage, eating, drinking, marrying, etc are evil things? Or are you reading some other evil into that into the passage when it isn't there? In and of itself, the passage is just saying that the day of the Lord will be like any other normal day, nothing that would obviously mark it out as special. And so people will be doing perfectly ordinary activities. Nothing about how the passage is referring to the days of Noah demands that society be as evil as it was in the day of Noah, that isn't the point of comparison at all.
@oracleoftroy The days of Noah WERE evil, hence why God destroyed everyone but Noah and his family! The whole point Jesus was making was that people will NOT be looking for Him on His return.
@@akadwriter Not in question. But is that evil the point of comparison in the passage? No, it isn't. That's my point, you are making a roundabout argument that isn't following directly from the verse you use to support it.
Every age post fall is evil. Noah's age was especially evil, but that doesn't in and of itself mean that Jesus'second coming will be to an especially evil world. The only comparison made was that people weren't expecting it.
Mind, I don't think this is about the bodily return of Jesus, but about his 'coming on the clouds' in judgement in AD 70. The language matches the apocalyptic language used in the prophets for when God would bring judgement against a city or nation.
So that's two reasons your argument isn't all that persuasive to any who don't already agree with you.
@@oracleoftroy "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God..."
II Timothy 3:1-4 NKJV
"Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived."
2 Timothy 3:12-13 ESV
"And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them..."
Revelation 20:7-9 ESV
The BIBLE disagrees with you.
@@akadwriter
For men will be:
1. lovers of themselves
2. lovers of money
3. boasters
4. proud
5. blasphemers
6. disobedient to parents
7. unthankful
8. unholy
9. unloving
10. unforgiving
11. slanderers
12. without self-control
13. brutal
14. despisers of good
15. traitors
16. headstrong,
17. haughty
18. lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God..
Are any of these things supposed to be new? Unique to this 'last days'? It seems like I can turn to any book of the Bible and see these sins on display. So what is so special about the same sins God warns about from Gen to Rev still being around before the final judgement?
_"Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived."_
Yes, this will always be true. Not always at the same level, but Christians aren't being used as human torches to light up cities anymore. The persecution continues today, yet it is lighter than in the past. And by God's grace, it will continue to lighten as the Church fulfills its mission to disciple the nations in all Christ has taught. Trust God and the power he displays in the gospel to change hearts and minds.
_"And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them..."_
If you assume there is a great apostasy, then there needs to be a great number of believers to apostatize. Most other views have Christianity dying off or even have all the Christians raptured away, so where does the great apostasy come from? It's just non-Christians apostatizing from .... what? Or are you saying Jesus is on earth, and that even God is so incompetent a ruler that man would rather turn to literal Satan over Jesus as their king after 1000 years of what should be the single best ruler ever. And of course there is the problem that you then have not only the 'second' coming, but a third (and possibly more) as well.
_"The BIBLE disagrees with you."_
Nothing in those verses disagrees with my position. You are confusing the presuppositions you inject into those passages with what the passages actually say. You mistake finding those verses compatible with your view in isolation with those verses uniquely supporting your view. They don't.
Moreover, some of them contradict the typical premil timeline when you actually stop to think about what premil believes and try to assemble it into a coherent narrative. For example, MacArthur speaks of a continual decline of Christianity and then an explosion of apostasy. But how is there an explosion if there is nothing to fuel the explosion. There isn't enough people to have a great apostasy, it's just a final whimper while the last handful gives up the faith as well. You can only have a great many people leave Christianity in a great apostasy if there are a great number of Christians in the first place. Premil timelines might make sense as long as we don't actually think to hard about what they really teach, but as soon as you try to make it make sense, it springs a million leaks.
Does that mean that pastor Steven Anderson is a excellent role model for us to follow? 😳
Steven Anderson needs to get saved first.
How does that relate to this clip? Lol
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