2007 Lincoln Town Car Executive L Livery Review and Test Drive by Bill - Auto Europa Naples
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- Offered for sale is this absolutely gorgeous 2007 Lincoln Town Car, an Executive L (long wheelbase) model in classic black over beige leather, and with only 64K miles and one prior owner. All original from front to back, this car has been dealer maintained, garage kept, and babied since new. This Fleet car was a privately owned limousine, used for and by one person since new. The interior is full of rich leather and remains immaculate, with dual power front seats, power everything, rear audio controls, and terrific passenger comfort. Fresh Michelins ride on the factory alloy wheels, and this car is a stunner in every way from front to back. Do not miss this one - it's good for hundreds of thousands of miles!
For God's sake bring these back. It is all we ever ask for. It is all we ever needed. A relaxing reliable drive that we could trust.
Maybe guys like us wants that but those brainless other folks only want to sit up high that’s why these didn’t sell anymore
@@theboogeyman5736 - not to mention that a Panther Platform RWD saloon doesn't need to be sent to the shop every 5 miles where the Dealerships impose exorbitant repair fees for "Repairing" obtusely designed engines and electronics. Can't make as much money on that compared to an X5.
@tomc4605lol if you can’t drive that, you might be the problem. Learn to drive
@Tom C YOU can't drive.
Tell that to the folks who keep buying suv’s. This is such a pretty and functional car. This is all anyone really needs.
You need a podcast or radio show. You seem to have stories for days and you have the voice to soothe an angry lion
I bought a 2004 Lincoln Town Car new that year and still have it 18 years later has been a great car with no serious issues. Some marriages don't last that long these days lol. Just a great car.
*Most marriages, then again, a Town Car that's well kept can last entire lifetimes.
@@EyePatchGuy88 Mine is well kept trust me when I say that. I have 2 2011 both have less than 12 thousand miles on them one is a Designer the other is a Presidential.
Marriage is outdated
"Really smooth ride, if there's a rock in the road, the car just crushes it."
Donald MacLeay 😆
So true 👍
Towncars, Crown Vics and Grand Marquis' were some well built cars that all had power with a nice floaty ride that weren't necessarily luxurious, but had just a touch of class
@@antoniojmonetti The Panther cars (the platform that underpinned the Crown Vic, Towm Car, and Grand Marquis) were so reliable that they could no longer make money off selling them, so they dropped them. These cars were great as they were, but they have so much potential for more power. Too bad.
@@antoniojmonetti Oh I remember the CRTs, we all grew up with them! I find it amazing that your grandpa still had his CRT after 20 years, truly awesome! I too am sad to hear he replaced his classic TV, but hopefully he enjoys his purchase. My parents bought our last CRT in 2000, but we lost it in Public Storage back in 2009 😥
@@antoniojmonetti I hope he decides to keep the TV. Maybe in the back of his mind he may consider keeping it just as a backup. I see, I'm facing the same problem as I wanted to move out last year but it didn't happen. Here's hoping that we work hard to get where we want in the foreseeable future!
@@antoniojmonetti Good luck with college. What the hell, a major no-no! Tell your cousin that they can't destroy a classic! That would flame me up on the inside seeing someone do that to my TV. People...
@@antoniojmonetti They lasted too long
I'm with you on the Town Cars. Took them for granted at the time and now we miss them, like all the big cars.
BEST CAR IN AMERICA..... drove it 700,000 miles same engine same transmission
There's a crown Vic with a million miles
Strange I never made this comment
@@carpetsteam1975 that's weird maybe you got hacked
I have never seen another platform of cars that gets nothing but love. King of cars
I’ve seen a whole bunch of these with over 1 million kilometres on them (odo stops at 999,999) and still run and drive like new. What incredible and underrated machines
I drove one as a personal assistant to this guy I worked for and let me tell you... I ALWAYS got looks.. People loved this car. Everyone wanted to talk to me..
A Towncar in this very condition and color is one of my dream cars
The last true Lincoln. This is the finest American made automobile ever. I driven two different L series Towncars in the last ten years. Put 230,000 miles on each one. They drive like a dream, the only thing close is Mercedes S Class.
It doesn't handle like an Mercedes S class, not even close.
Dave The Fisherman The Fake Farmer
Mercedes also looks modern compared to a town car, but I would take a town car over a Mercedes S class
Used town cars for sale
I hate people like you, "the last true X" you sound so very stupid.
@@davethefishermanthefakefar959 The TC will last longer than any S-class, and that's a fact. Not everyone wants a sports sedan.
TODAY'S 'LINCOLNS' DON'T DESERVE THE NAME! THIS IS TRULY THE LAST OF THE BEST! TRUE AMERICAN LUXURY FOREVER, TODAY'S TRASH NEVER!!!!!
In 5-10 more years, the domestic automakers will be "figuring out" how to compete in this sector against competitors again. By then, they would have lost all their original customer base in exchange for global market shares.
Please stop yelling
We have the 2006 PRESIDENTIAL MODEL. !!! YOUR THOUGHTS?
@@captainamericaamerica8090 GREAT CAR
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I own a 2011 signature L and am obsessed with thise cars. Best car I've owned and will keep it for a long time to come.
I drive alot and was strongly considering an 07 I heard 06 up are the best in regards to issues being worked out my only genuine concern is the air suspension any problems with yours any advice??
Def sound like me
I never really understood why the Lincoln Town Car was the US 'standard' for luxury, until I had a ride in one. Although we have (well, had) LWB locally made luxury cars here in Aus, neither had the room of a Town Car, nor the smooth ride. This era of cars has been forsaken for SUVs, and it's a damn shame IMO.
It's all cyclical, and often relative to oil prices. Between '09 and '14, gasoline prices were high, people turned to the Smart, the Mini, the 500, and so forth.
Now times are good, people want to live large.
Today's SUVs are simply the enormous and grotesque big block cars of the 60s and early 70s.
Cheers 👍
@@teop7887
Back to Minis and 500s.
They were once considered limos. It was the top luxury back then.
@@teop7887 - At least the 60's to 70's Land Yatchs were good looking, relatively unique, and extremely comfortable.
Lincolns were, are, and continue to be the gentleman's ride.
Beautiful
Cheap plastic
@@filipmac5577
Yeah, okay gamer. Go pay 3x much for your crap.
@@rudolphguarnacci197 yes indeed brother, yes indeed.
@@filipmac5577 ur a tool lmao
I'm looking at one of these right now 2008 L executive with 20k on the clock for $4000 I will be totally stoked if I get it !
The Town Car is THE car. I just sold my 2002 Cartier. Made me sick to sell it, but it was starting to rust. 417,000 miles on it and never did any major work. Just routine maintenance. Fantastic car. Also own a 2006 Town Car. 150,000 on that one, signature limited trim level in pearl white over beige leather. I guess the town car went out of style. The last of the body on frame big, SAFE, American land yachts. Dated looks and not much technology inside but I think the TC has such a dignified appearance, it has presence for sure. My third car is a 2010 S550. Also pearl white over beige leather. Comparing the TC to the S class is apples and oranges. The S class was more than double the cost of the TC when new! Reliability on the S class is NOWHERE near that of the TC. The S class is like having a high maintenance wife. Needs constant attention and outrageously expensive to repair. I’ve got 72,000 miles on mine and I’ve replaced the adjustable fluid filled engine mounts TWICE. Electronic problems, transmission problems, dynamic / massage seats problems, you name it, it will break. It’s fast, and has a pillowy ride (for a German car) but for longevity, virtually no repairs, silky smooth ride,the TC wins hands down.
The car of my dreams... In black too! I would drive halfway across this gargantuan country and pay good money for a Town Car Signature/Executive L.
They are everywhere for sale you can easily do that😂
@@Elijah-fc3ex the presidential model is Amazing
Contact Limousine services in your area, they have to sell them regularly.
My dad had two of these paid off. Don't remember why he sold them
I have one! Low mileage. It's on my channel. Check it out.
I've got a 2000 Mercury Grand Marquis! She's only has 140,000 miles! Beautiful, rides like a dream, gonna get a 2011 Towncar just to own one! My MarquisLS is in Silver Metallic chrome all over the place! Loaded, real luxury!
I have the 99 and still trouble free and the ride is crazy comfortable.
I just found a 2003 town garage queen. It had been garaged for almost six years. I bought exactly for the same reasons explained in this video. I have always been a Lincoln Town Car owner.
This is one very well kept Town Car, respect!!!
I love your reviews. Your dry and dark sense of humor cracks me up. Please keep up the reviews. I wish I lived near you so I could buy a car from you and just talk. You are the best. Please keep up the great work.
That is one of the most amazing cars ever. 100% luxury with 100% durability.
Welfare? You mean fake wood, poor A/C, and a V8 engine that doesn't produce enough power. Lexus Ls, Mercedes S-class, Jaguar Xj and BMW 7-series are true luxury cars
@@GM-zb4mu You had to be there, man.
Personally, I have a 2010 Toyota Venza, 2013 Toyota Avalon hybrid, and a 2008 Solara convertible. The Venza is luxury, reliability and power. The Avalon, comfort, reliability and luxury. The Solara has pep, reliability and is a heck of a lot of fun.
Love the Lexus LS. BMW 7 is pretty great.
Mercedes are now junk, Jaguar always was and still is absolutely gorgeous junk.
@@silverwolfmonastery
You are right, among these cars, Lexus LS is the most reliable and has a powerful V8 engine, Mercedes S-Class and BMW 7-Series have both performance and luxury, but back in the past, specifically in 1998-2003, Lincoln Town Car was not capable To compete with them in any way it was all that mattered Its owners are comfortable and fun to ride, but they don't care if it has a dual overhead cam motor or new technologies unfortunately The Cadillac DeVille and STS at the time were great cars, but the front-wheel drive system and Northstar engine full of fatal flaws ruined Cadillac's reputation. American auto companies have major mismanagement and mistakes
I bought an 07 two yrs ago. It had 85K on it, now has 102K. Not one repair, not one thing has needed attention. I drive all hwy, live in the country. Car gets 22 MPG on shorter trips, has gotten up to 25 MPG on some longer trips. Reliable, safe, dead silent cabin at all times, extremely comfortable. What else does anybody need for under $10,000?
I've got a 01 executive series..
I Freaking love my car..
flat out rocks!
Trully the best videos on youtube! Love how funny you are Bill! Please never stop uploading your videos!
I bought my 2011 town car about 3 weeks ago from an auction with 340k miles however it runs just like new and no drop of oil leak under. I'm amazed by the quality and simplsity of these town cars. On top of that parts are dirt cheap, changed my rear air shocks for 87 dollar each, same part cost 500 on a S class Mercedes. What am trying to say is town car is the best afdordable luxury sedan ever built.
I never get bored watching this video over and over again. My Lincoln Town Car is vibrant white 2008 model with 205,496 miles.
Bought it in April 2011 with 33,555 miles. Everything you say is true to the core...
Update and correction from last comment the year I bought it was April 19, 2010 with 33,555 miles. Now it's 217,377 miles strong everything works and no Engine lights or any other lights on the dash.
@@Pantherforlife Time for another six month update! *looks over*
@@HauntingTheHoly Thanks for reminding me. I almost forgot about this post that I made. My mileage is now 228,785 in six months 11,408 miles. I drive this car to work and home only. Once I'm home the car stays in the garage until I drive to work. At work my car stays at a secure employee parking lot. The only problem I had to deal with was my after market alternator (PowerBastards 220 amp) installed in 2016. New alternator in August of 2021. The battery light was the only light that went on. I also have a voltage meter by the time I arrive at the auto parts store it was at 11.4 volts. Changing it outside the store no drama easy peezy. Always good to have tools in trunk. If no one said it let me be the first. All These Panther platform engines are mechanic friendly. Just did a video on my rear shocks My next video will be all new front suspension. Love the 3rd generation Lincoln town cars......
I love these things! My first ever car was a 2001 Ford Crown Victoria (Interceptor) and drove it for over 6 years. I even drove it across Canada once when I moved. Best car ever. Since then, I've owned dozens of cars and trucks. Nothing ever came close. Until I bought my 2006 Town Car. Even with over 230,000 miles on it, it runs smoother than most newer vehicles I have driven. And same thing with this one, I drove it across Canada twice! I was surprised on the fuel mileage on highway. My Civic barely beats it! haha.
Great find! I hope you enjoy it!
On my first US visit we had a this typ of Towncar as a rental. Whilst the interior in my opinion is a little cheap and the V8 engine not that powerful, I can absolutely attest that the AC works! We drove through death valley and the temperatur rose to 46°C, the AC operated absoluetly flawlessly, just windows got a little warm. It really was a great way the experience the US for the first time.
I'm glad you did! This platform and type of car (body on frame, V8, RWD) used to be ubiquitous on American roads. This was the last of that breed and they haven't been manufactured since 2011. It's getting rare to see any of these now, even in their old stomping grounds like NYC.
The Continentals were faster and nicer in my opinion.
@@mckessa17 Those continental trannys were garbage.
@@whitegoodman7465 I have a 2000 with original transmission. Just have to flush and change oil in them once in awhile.
Former chauffeur; love the Town car...had a specially designed town car in 1991, was an "executive sedan" as promoted by Carey Limousine, it was slightly stretched (10+"?) And had rear facing jumpseats. Was promoted more towards business people who didn't/couldn't pull up to a client in an ostentatious limousine. Held 5 in the back and one other passenger in the front....I loved it, but it wasn't marketed enough and mostly went out as regular town car price....it was a looker, I gave it the name "Tweener" as it was in between a sedan and limousine
Loved Carey limo. They were the best always took amazing care of me in DC or NYC.
I'm 16 and love lincoln town cars and lincoln continentals especially the 1966 lincoln continental coach door edition. I get the same jokes hell, I love old music like it's still rock and roll to me and the night Chicago died but I don't mind the jokes cause I know I'm an old soul.
If I could get a 1970 LTD 2 door convertible in black, that would be awesome. My second choice is a 1976 mark something or another. They're nice cars.
Hi! Just wanna say, even if I respond only now (maybe you won't see it cause it's been a while since you wrote your comment), but you're a bit like me. When I was 16, I was as well into older stuff (I'm 51). I can appreciate newer things, but I believe that there are things that age better than others, and the cars you mention fit into the "good" category. Peace!
Tell your friends you are just smart! Old things are made way better and last longer!
Sure is a beauty Bill. I own a taxi service just acquired an 07 identical ylto this one. It came from a livery service in Boston and was very well kept. They bought it new and pulled it from service a month ago current mileage
*509,213* I've seen them with 800k
Insane!
Man most livery town cars have350-400k on em. But they can handle it! Nice find bill!
Joes Golden Garage 570,157 miles On my 2005 and still working it. Clients love the Lseries
Great great cars....
@@pontiacreddz4021 Wow are you serious????
My best friend owns a taxi company in my town....7 out of 10 of his Lincolns have over 375 k miles on them...All still running strong......he gave me one to use as a beater...410k miles, its great.
*Just bought a 2017 Lincoln MKT LIVERY Town Car...$21,500 USD with 45k...all black on black with all leather and a fridge...plus I'm a 44 year old dad of 4 ... now, I also own a 2014 Camaro RS manual ...but I am definitely living the good life of CHOICE!*
The L (long) version is pretty easy to spot. Look at that smaller fixed window in the back. It's about as wide as the full door handle below it. I have a Signature Limited and that window is about half as wide as the door handle.
I was pleasantly surprised by the sound system. Factory stereo/speakers put out a very rich and loud sound. It almost sounds like it has subwoofers. The way to tell is to listen to Dream On by Aerosmith. There's a very low bass blast in the song right around "books written pages". You're not going to hear that note with normal speakers. You can definitely hear it in the Lincoln. Bring an Aerosmith CD if you're looking to buy one.
There's no such thing as a short Town Car. If you get one, you will want to practice backing into a parking spot. The key to this is the inside back tire. Look in the side mirror as you're cutting the turn. Once the inside back tire clears the other car, it becomes nearly impossible for you to hit into it. So as soon as that inside back tire clear the grill of the other car, you can safely look at the other mirrors and straighten out the car. Nice clean back-in every time.
This was the last true modern American luxury automobile. Not a car, an automobile. I love large sedans/limos. The A8, 7 Series, S Class, and Town Cars are my favorite big cars.
Not bling, not overly chrome, no attention seeking. Just an understated ship, pure luxury car. Truly is a shame they stopped building these beasts. In my opinion today’s Lincolns/Cadillacs don’t compare to these, at least not in the way that it solely focuses on doing luxury.
4:34 The improvements you speak of were introduced starting with the 2003 model year. Great cars!
I just (in 2023) picked up a 2006 town car with 74k on the clock.
Just bought a 2011 over 200 thousand but it runs like a stallion. Black on black
How about now?
That 2007 Lincoln Town Car Executive L is remarkably amazing on the inside & out!
I have in 2003 Lincoln Town car signature in Black, and you're right , it is the most luxury car I've ever owned, I have on the BMW 328i and a Mercedes and for the money you cannot beat the Town car, it may not be fast it may not be nimble on the turns, it may not have all gadgets and lights inside but what you have is a true American classic touring luxury car, very easy to fix you can find parts anywhere, very very reliable and the majority of them reach anywhere from 400,000 to 600,000 with no problem or major repairs, I wish they brought the town car back but definitely with a V8 and rear wheel drive and with all the luxury space that we love especially the trunk space,
Gorgeous Town Car. Looks great with the black wall tires too.
I love my 2000 Lincoln Town Car with a full sized factory spare tire.
I was so lucky to be able to have found a 2001 town car Executive L when I did I was young didn't have all the money to buy it as inexpensive as it was so I got as much money that I currently had and took out a small loan just for the down payment the dealer wanted. The miles were at 126k miles which was the lowest I was able to find at the time and I do not regret it. I plan on keeping it for as long as I can. And I even now and then think about buying another one I just can't see myself driving another car.
Beautiful car. The name needs a comeback.
Forgot how much I liked these. Gonna have to start looking for one !!!
I just bought a 1997 Lincoln Towncar signature series with one owner, little old lady just couldn’t drive anymore. 117,240 miles. Super nice car. Garage kept. Paid $2900 but I think it’s a steel for the condition.
Just keep up with the maintenance and you’ll have it for decades.
I've been driving town cars for 6 years I love these things.
I'm only 21 btw lol
Oh god its so beautiful!! I'm gushing
I love this car, drive a low mileage Lincoln Continental 2000-mod myself, and I want to import a Towncar like this also...greetings from Norway
You'd look like a badass in Norway!! Do it
Soon these are going to be in museums due to being a 2000s icon.
What a great car! So much fun to drive, too.
I just bought a 08 limousine with 54k miles the thing is gorgeous to this date.
I've had two and I love this car . I will have my eyes on a super clean one in the future black on black for me ....Lincoln had the jewel at their finger tips then stopped building this legend of a car .
get one guys. 20 years from now these will be worth 20 grand or more simply because its so good
If we have an apolcalypse, people will be living in this dinosauer.
I feel Regal and Continental just checking it out 😁👌🏼
Very humorous narration. I recently bought an 2006 Signature Limited with 49,000 original miles in old lady silver blue and gray leather interior. Compared to this L I feel like I've bought a sports car. Still, everything Bill says about Town Cars in general, and this series in particular, is true. They insulate you from the noisy outside world, protect you from bumps in the road, and pretty much make owning and driving one a Zen experience. At times I feel like Juilia Sugarbaker toodling around town in it, but I live in Las Vegas and needed something that keeps me cold in the triple degree heat we suffer through from May to the middle of October. And the Lincoln certainly does that. The auto climate control takes care of me without me having to think about it. Show me another full size car that gets 26 miles to the gallon and alerts you when you're lead--footing too much and I bet you can't. I hope to keep my 06 looking and driving like a new car for many years. It's sad that Lincoln threw in the towel and is trying to compete with Volvo, Cadillac, BMW and Genesis with their new Continental. I'm convinced they could still take back their old market with a redesigned four wheel drive Town Car that also included center opening doors like the classic old Continentals of the 1960s,
Absolutely beautiful car. I've always loved Lincolns and in my opinion it's the best American car brand hands down. I like how you mentioned that Cadillac can't touch these right when I was thinking the same exact thing.
My Dad had one until recently... he sold it for a macked out black Navigator. Sheesh. I guess at 71 years old he can do what he wants. Heheheh
Nice job, you articulated well, the reasons why I love this car too.
Most comfortable and roomy cars ever, those plush leather seats with heat were better than a $7K shiatsu massage chair. Those care were such beauties. Loved them.
Okay... You've obviosly been through some"Stuff". Maybe "Gang Stalking/ Government Stalking".You've maintained a sense of humor and stayed true to youself. What an AWESOME EXAMPLE!! I hope you are blessed and thank you for the entertaining video's even if I can't afford to buy right now.God Bless..
That is a very classy, desirable Lincoln, full of style and grace
What makes these cars interesting, for me, is the ease of moderately-priced performance upgrades.
I agree 100%. My FAVORITE car of all time.
Those Panther cars will run forever
I bought my 2008 three years ago with 45k miles. Considering how long these cars last it could be the last car I own. Up to 65k now.
These years are the same 2005, up to 2011.
I could stare at this car all day long.
Ditto
I would buy this and drive it to high school as my first car if only there was parking in the city :(
That is an awesome car, my grandpa has one in beige and I love it! His car has a clockspring airbag wiring problem though.
This is CAR, why Lincoln do not produce this kind of limo, its better than S class, I do not like German cars to much, regards from Serbia.
Lincoln stopped producing them in 2011, due to safety regulations. The body & chassis weren't changed much. And when they did the test, it failed. If the safety regulations were a bit more forgiving. We would've seen the Town Car until 2017. Even now Chrylser is stopping the production of the 300, 2020 is the last year for it.
Nothing is better than a MERCEDES BENZ S CLASS,they STAND ALONE....
It's not better than an S class lmao. It never will be.
@@lilmoris1 I like both S and town car but the 4.6l v8 ford made will last like a Toyota
S class is nicer but this car makes a better statement I think. Everyone knows something important is going to go down when they see one of these things. S class is just a rich retired guys car
The trunk lid should be motorized and operated by the key fob. Also, the plastic V8 housing that is attached to the top of the engine is missing, unless it's in the trunk. Just a couple of missed details for a prospective buyer to look for. I own one like it, but in black.
I'm not a fan of any Ford product. But I will admit that's a nice car
lincoln town car best car. rip town car too bad they dont make this anymore
who wouldn't want one of these, instead of modern SUV (microwave/toiletbowl on wheels)?
Love those Lincolns! I have an '06 TC Executive and I love that car! My Dad was a Lincoln man and had an '81 '85 and '89 Town Car. His first car was a 1947 Zephyr which belonged to my grandfather. Hmmmm, I guess you could say we are Lincoln lovers! To this day I still have people telling me how much they love my car which is white with the creme leather interior. Anyone who thinks it's cool to have a car you need a shoe horn to get into and when driving down the road your kidneys are rattled by a lousy suspension is nutz!
Finally found your videos again🎉🎉
i have been driving nothing but town cars since 1962. I did have a mark at one time. the one that I have now is 2001. 117000 miles. I would not own anything else
Quick correction: L Town Cars COULD be bought new privately; they weren't restricted to only fleet sales, though that's nearly the only ones who bought them.
The second best looking TC ever after the 85-89.
I am addicted to Bill. What a smooth storyteller
Love your videos and your sense of humor!
Nice boat
Its sad big cars like these are no longer made all that's made today are small cars and big trucks a lot was lost over the last 45 years.
I love this car!! And I love your commentaries sir even your area!
MUSLIM GANG
I really appreciate this! we own a new Lincoln my aunt's town car showed me the class and practicality of them
I miss these cars...and the Crown Vics
I also used to own a Lincoln town car in my mid 20s. Loved that car, it was great on long road trips. It used to be a respectable automobile back than. Now I would love to buy the navigator black label but over 100k I don't so
Bro ur towncar is absolutely immaculate 👌🏼 not a single flaw or blemish.
I will and must get one ❤
3 days ago I was in a gold Signature L. 2006? I think.
Very nice
Full-size spare tire is factory stock.
I have a 2005 Signature. Best car ive ever driven. IF it ever dies , I will find another one.
That's a beautiful Town Car.
My guess is the long adjustment buttons on the clock are for esthetics. There would be too much empty space with only two round buttons.
That's one sweet ride!
These seriously FLOATed down the road
Jeezus Bill! 2 full sized spare tires!? One could enter this vehicle in the Paris Dakar Rally for crying out loud! Hahaha!
Panther platform....such a beautiful underrated vehicle!
I pull these up in car searches every so often and it seems like the only ones remaining have hundreds of thousands of miles.