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Still have my 2007 Town Car w/ 435,000 miles. Best car EVER!!!
keep it up.
I still have my 04 Town Car has 80,000 miles just like it came out of the showroom I'm thinking about selling it
bluesdriver63 Very hard to believe still nice car never got more then 140 k.kilometres with my cars.
@@carlpeterson1457 are you in Florida by any chance
I just bought a 2007 Lincoln Town Car this week, love it! It's my new baby, lol.
my 2004 town car now retired with 640k miles best car ever don’t tell me Lexus or Mercedes no car can compete with Lincoln town car when it’s come to road ride ( comfortable you don’t hear or feel the road - ) you can’t Judge if you don’t own a town car
I love it.
Gaby Merza I can’t believe .
Your right, I drove these as limos long ago. The owner retired them and switched to 300s in 2015. We had 1 TownCar left in the fleet. I always tried to get it, it had more room along with more trunk room compared to the 300.
It was very rare for anything to break on these. Alot of the drivers didn't like the change to the 300s. In my opinion one of the best built Ford platforms.
PCS That is hard to believe.
I've owned 1987, 1988, 1994, 1998, and 2000 Town Cars... oh, and I'm 34.
There WILL be more! Seriously, TCs and other Panthers are truly special vehicles! I can promise you, there will always be at least one in my possession until the day I die.
I started out wanting a crown Vic bought a 2000 mercury grand marquis that now has 270000 miles on it and still drives like a dream shows no sign of stopping anytime soon I've seen old cop cars still on the rode with over 500000 miles now I'm wanting a 2003-2011 tc
@Commentor1 A sure sign of reliability issues is when livery operators can drive these Town Cars for over 600,00 miles without major issues. The 4.6L + 4 speed tranny is bullet proof. Reliability issues.....yeah right!
I had a '94 and '97. I've never ridden in a more comfortable car, including a Mercedes S Class. I would still have the '97 but I was in a wreck and insurance totaled it because of the airbags. I want an '88 or '89 Signature Series with white leather seats with blue piping.
I have a 99 and 97 Town Car. May even get a third one just for the sake of it. They are hands down the best cars ever. Reliable as can be, easy to repair and great style. Worst mistake Ford made when they let the Panther platform die.
Well said. It is such a shame America no longer makes a true full size luxury sedan. It's as though the Axis Powers won the war of the cars.
My Lincoln Town Car is vibrant white 2008 model with 205,496 miles.
Bought it in April 2011 with 33,555 miles. Everything you say is true to the core...
Correction and update; Bought it on April 19, 2010. 217,377 miles still going strong. Everything works and no lights popping up on the dash. If I can't fix it, I take it straight to the dealership. I don't play games with my town car....
After 33 panther-platformed Lincolns, I can say unequivocally that you are on the mark. Lincoln should have never given up this staple of the New York streetscapes!
Everything turns around, it will be back.
The MDX seems to be the top choice of NYC livery drivers now.
@@jorgeestrada885 Probably with unibody construction and an ecojoke engine.
@@elevator1tom
Whatever it is, I hope the front split bench seats and column shifter can make a comeback!
@@42luke93 Definitely!
The Last Great American Sedan proudly built in Canada
*Ford wants to know your location*
MC bunny Mine is an 05. Built in Michigan 😎
MC bunny So, would that account for Bill’s occasional references to, “your Canadian friends enjoying the rear seat?” I wonder ...
Hahah lol 😂 that’s really funny and true!
Canada is part of America, North America 👍
This car is still great even after 9 years of discontinuing production.
They Look👀👓better than the new limos. Timeless classics
I drove limos in my early 20s years ago, these are great cars. I loved the trunk space for customers. Ford made these panther platforms till 2011 because they were bullet proof. It was rare for anything to go wrong with these Town Cars.
Before you all laugh at the Town Car’s relatively low power output considering its 4.6 litre engine displacement and make some comment about your lawnmower having more power per litre, what you need to understand is this: the Town Car isn’t about speed or horsepower or quarter mile times. It’s all about delivering a smooth, comfortable and luxurious ride at any speed, and the Town Car delivers this in spades. It’s because of this that I like to think of the Town Car as a ‘poor man’s Mercedes S-Class’.
This also applies to the Town Car’s sister cars, the Ford Crown Victoria & the Mercury Grand Marquis.
Not only that, but because of the body-on-frame design and the fact that the Town Car’s V8 engine isn’t very stressed, the Town Car, along with its aforementioned Ford and Mercury sister cars, is notoriously reliable - one Town Car featured on Scotty Kilmer’s ‘Show-Off Sunday’ series on UA-cam had done 486,000 miles (486,609 miles, to be exact) at the time of filming.
This car competes with Lexus Ls, Mercedes S Class, Audi, BMW 7 Series, Infiniti Q45, and Cadillac, but Ford was not serious about competing with luxury European cars. When we talk about a huge rear-wheel-drive V8 car for the year 2011, we find that the 4.6L 2V V8 engine with 239 horsepower is weak and out of line. With the rest of modern cars and a primitive 4-speed transmission !!! Even the 1990 Lexus ls400 with a 4.0 engine had 250 hp and the 2011 Lincoln Town Car had 239 hp. Remember that the V6 engines in this year are much more powerful than them, even the 1990 Lexus ls400 has higher safety, better specifications and a much better suspension system. I wonder what the engineers were thinking when they continued from 1992 until The year 2011 with the same engine and transmission on this car, and then they stop manufacturing it under the pretext that its sales are few and the suspension system is fixed. Of course, its sales will decrease because they have continued with the same Panther platform for more thanWithout any updates!!!
@@jehadhjaya2767It's like you didn't bother reading the post you were responding to at all.
always loved the lincoln town car.thats what real american cars are all about.no turbo trash, no nosense, just a solid, good, relaxed ride
Turbos are great…when you put them in V8 cars.
"If you're from Cali a place to store your big bag of weed!!!"....😂🤣😂🤣
I love the Lincoln Town Car!!! Have had three during my lifetime. Wish they would bring it back!!!
Absolutely loved my TownCar, nothing else compares to it's ride quality and quietness
The only vehicle that would come close is the Lexus LS 430.
The 2003 - 2011 Lincoln Town Car and 2004 - 2006 Lexus LS 430 are on my list. I'll have them someday.
Thank you for this, Bill. I've just acquired a 2009 "Light French Silk Metallic" Town Car and your videos (along with Doug Demuro's) truly solidified my decision to take the leap. Anyhow, just wanted you to know that your commentary is greatly appreciated. Cheers!
The best car in the world, comfortable , can take a big crash and you wont die, too bad the world never understood what a great car is all about.
I know I'm probably preaching to the choir, but the only problem with the Panther Platform was that companies couldn't nickel and dime you in "repairs" because they were built to outlast our great great great great grandchildren, that's why they were axed.
@@EyePatchGuy88exactly
Crown victoria's were sold here domestically. Also I like that you talk about guns in these cars.:)
Taking one of these things on a long trip, you don't get highway fatigue. You come back into your planned motel stop, and you're not tired.
The undisputed best car ever built!
I am still driving my 2004 Town car. With 133,000 miles. I love this car, it is my 4th. Since 1994! Best ride there is, and beautiful!
Im looking forward to get a Lincoln Town Car when I'm in the USA as an exchange young professional skilled worker. Sounds like a good value for a decent price.
Great overall review of the Towncar. These dislikes are confusing me, proof you just can't please some people. This car looks exactly like my 2008 Signature Limited 130,000 miles 3 owners, First was a grandpa who passed on leaving this payed for garage kept diamond to the second owner, his grandson. He reminded me of me when I was his age, (thought I was smarter than I was) All he had on his mind was a Mustang, A brand new V6 mustang, all he was after was a down payment. At the time the KBB value on the Lincoln was around $7,000 New it had $49,500 on the window sticker. (Grandpa even saved that along with EVERY service trip to Freedom Ford where it was purchased) Soon as I saw the car I knew I was going to buy it. The kid held firm to his price of 7k till I pulled out 5k cash fanned them hundreds out and said, You know 5G's cash is a damn nice down payment, it's early you still got time to go get that Mustang, find you a pretty girl and be riding before sunset! That was all it took, kids mom said, you robbed my son! I offered to cancel, she said no he will just be mad with me then. I said OK, Thanks. If nothing else grandpa can know I appreciate him leaving his car to that kid and I plan to keep this car till she goes to the junkyard or I'm chilling with gramps.
Ford messed up. They single handedly killed a thriving market. Look at it. Its beautiful, and it's got alot of low end torque.
The government killed the Town Car, not Ford, due to continuously increasing safety and fuel economy mandates. The Panther platform had been designed in the late 1970s. The Govt continuously, every few years, notched up the safety and MPG requirements for vehicles. Eventually the panther couldn't meet them without redesigning the whole platform. So the RWD, body-on-frame that the panther buyer liked and wanted was eliminated, and we get the FWD, unibody, turbocharged, touchscreen, sport suspension shit we see today.
BKofficer23 Blame O’ Bummer 😉
The 4.6 was first designed and released in the 91 Town Cars. Also depending on the package if you press the inside door trunk release or fob button it will close the trunk from fully open.
I drive a 2007 Signature. Best suspension ever. Even if I had a $1,000,000.00 dollars, this is still my car to have. The 2011 don’t have the air suspension, I’d personally go older for that “air ride” which soaks up all those pothole’s in my city.
The Lincoln Town Car, as well as the Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis, were beautiful, brilliant images of American Sedan luxury, and that still holds true today. I miss the Panther platform dearly. :-(
I live in Estero and work in Naples (and actually do a little business with Auto Europa). I bought my 2004 Town Car 5.5 years ago. It was a completely accidental and unintentional purchase.
Before and up to the plandemic I worked for a chain auto parts store for five years. One night when it got dark early a man came in wanting us to test the battery in one. It was his mom's car and she had gotten too old to drive and sat garaged for a year.
Long story short he brought it in early the next day so we could charge/test the battery. It was a silver Signature so it already appealed to be because silver is my color.
It was clean and needed a lot of maintenance. Both bumpers had brushed against the garage corners. They asked $3200 and I didn't negotiate. I replaced all the suspension wear items, driver door top hinge, a few door latch strikers, battery/tires/wipers/fluids, and rebuilt the broken adjustable pedals.
I still have it and it's not my daily. It sits garaged next to my OTHER silver Panther vehicle. A 2004 Mercury Marauder with a sunroof and only 57k miles. Both are garage queens. I have a third more practical vehicle for daily work commuting.
I want this so badly!!! Wish they still made them. So solid
"Has just over 100k so you'll probably only get 300 or 400 more out of it" 🤣
It's a shame that Ford purposely let this great vehicle slowly die. They wouldn't do anything to attract any new buyers. In 2011 there still wasn't even an aux input to plug in an MP3 player.
Old people don’t need an aux input 😉
It was pretty much a fleet vehicle at that point.
"New buyers" looking a the Town Car must have been in their 100s at the time these went out of production. Lincoln's attempt at new buyers was the LS, which didn't fare well in the market.
@@doug6191 Im 23 and I would buy a brand new Lincoln Town Car if they kept making it
@@bigmoney1250 You're one of the exceptions, though. There aren't enough of you to compel Ford to build it.
I always get a history lesson when I watch your reviews. Keep up the good work.
You're like me. I bought a 1990 Town Car Cartier...I was 20. I still have Panthers now...and even the older Continentals with the 460.
I was so close to finally getting one. A 2005, or so. I chose another car instead because the Town Car is rear-drive and I didn't want to deal with the snow. I still regret it.
I love the Lincoln Town Car! I had an 89 and wound up giving it to my dad. I still get to drive it sometimes. What a dream ride! I think this car may have a left turn signal light burned out as the blinker flashed very fast. But what a nice ride!!! :)
I had a 1992 executive and then traded up to a 1997 Signature after a year becasue I liked it so much. I had it when I was 16 to 22. Now, after seeing your video, I kinda want to see what a 2011 would be like!
We need more Bills up in NYC. The knowledgeable salesman's straightforward no nonsense buy this vehicle, period. Keep up the good work Bill.
Semper fi
I got a 2002 signiture series with 97000 miles for 1500 best purchase I've made yet
I have a 2001 TC Cartier. It shares its engine, transmission, and rear axle with a contemporary F-150 pickup. There are some differences, but a TC is essentially an F-150 in a tuxedo. It's a nice tuxedo. It fits real good, and it's comfy, and it doesn't have any silly or unnecessary frills, and it's extremely well put together. It can serve you well for the rest of your life. Luxury is nothing without durability and dependability. On that count, nothing is in the same league, except for a Toyota or Lexus. But those can't tow like a TC. Lincoln for the win!
Bill - Love the accurate and humorous commentary. I own 4 of the 2003-2011 body style Town Cars, plus I own a black on black 1990. I love driving them. I bought my first 2003 Town Car in 2014 (I was 28). 50K mile, dark blue on black leather with a factory moonroof. I loved that car so much - and still have it, but a large oak tree decided the roof was too tall. I now have the same carbon copy (blue on black from VA) with 252K (daily), a 41K Miami FL car black/black 03, etc. Great cars. And I'm 32...shouldn't I be driving something else? haha.
I Agree. Bill's narrative on describing this Lincoln is great!
I love this man. He is a class act
Elegant without being ostentatious.
I honestly really really like this car - and that's me being German. Extremely hard to get here, unfortunately.
Very nice but I'll put my 2011 up against it. I bought mine three years ago for a retirement car. With only 42K miles and not a pimple on it, I'm in good shape. I drive my Grand Marquis and keep this one in reserve. Can't wait to retire next year and have the Lincoln as my full time car.
I have a 2009 Grand Marquis, one of only two cars I've ever had that I can say is truly a fantastic automobile.. the other one was a '72 Chrysler New Yorker that I drove in the late '70s and very early 80s - it was over-the-top fantastic!
@@hankaustin7091 The New Yorker from that era was a good one, too. I will hate to give up the 2000 Marquis, but I don't really want to pay insurance on two cars in retirement. Thanks for your input.
@@bigrr64 Thanks for your input. I need to stick to my plan and stop torturing myself by looking on eBay at Continental Mark V's. As for the the 2010-11 Town Cars, be aware that they were de-contented. No sun roof, no air suspension, etc. Of course, no air suspension will save money down the road. Good Luck!
With a Lincoln Town car and a Grand Marquis I'll say that you are all set in retirement! You obviously know what a good vehicle is.
As for the air suspension causing issues down the road, that seems to be mainly caused by winter driving with salt corrosion here. A guy I knew that only drove his Lincoln in the summer had no issues with the air suspension and that was over years of driving. The Town car I just bought in the USA which is a 2009 with just under 36,000 miles will only be summer driven because it only has a few areas where the paint on the frame is off with rust now. So I am not expecting any issues with the air suspension in the rear end with just summer driving. Actually the driving. Will be from the time a good rain in the spring washes the salt off the roads 2 when the first snowfall comes in the fall. So that should be more than 6 months.........hopefully but then I live in that place called Canada. Lol
Oh and by the way, this Canuck is also a Trump supporter. I know that is hard to believe, but some of us up here are not like the rest of the lefties. But enough about politics this is about Lincolns!
@@c.d.7742 Yes, sir...... I feel like I'm all set.
Regarding the air suspension, most of my research indicates an expected lifespan of about 200K miles before problems develop. Everything wears out at some point.
Thanks for your input and thanks for being on the right side of things.
2011 is my second ….. 170,000 miles to date …. Flawless, both of them ….. First was an 2006 …. Gave it up with 350,000 miles …. Only gripe is faulty electrics (locks, windows, seat belt sensor), but hoping the 2011 will last forever …. Love it, love it!!
I drive a 2010 same exterior color but with the dove grey interior.
I swapped in a P71 29mm front and 21mm hpp rear stabilizer bars and love it. Sadly they took out the rear air suspension for 2009...
They help stabilize the car and make it feel more secure on the road, the cost is on choppy pavement you get a little more chatter feedback through the chassis.
I will tolerate that minor irritation for the enhanced stability especially when heavily loaded such as bringing home a load of soft drinks and bottled water for company events or on slippery winter or gravel roads.
Life is a trade off, only you can decide what you are willing to tolerate.
Having driven over 1.5 million kms (around 950,000 miles) through severe weather in all four seasons I want a firmer feel over plush, relatively speaking.
That being said if you decide to try this you may want to try sticking with the stock front bar and installing a 18mm rear as a nice upgrade. If you go with the P71 front bar you need at least that 18mm on the rear, 21mm is a better balance though.
As a side note the P71 only uses a 15mm rear bar but has much stiffer rear springs to work with.
18mm bars were used on the town car touring edition and some later hpp air suspension equipped cars. The 21mm was used on the previous generation hpp Grand Marquis and Crown Victoria. (I believe 97-2002 models)
I 💘 this car! I have 3 currently. So upset Lincoln screwed thousand of customers who thought they were buying a traditional Town Car with air suspension. However they discontinued that great option for several trim levels throughout the years of 09-11. Smh I hate how ppl complain about the air suspension when it fails. If you can't afford to fix the car don't buy one! That's what made these road warriors so pleasant to drive.
Wow I didn't know they removed the air ride suspension it added alot to the personality of the cars overall feel and ride quality it cant be matched by anything else im glad I got me a 2004 I hate they stopped making these cars its a true American Legend
The Executive Ls have air
Well Bill i definitely share some of your thoughts on these older classics from yesteryear brother, well done video! Keep on telling us stories about these classics, Good job Indeed
This is a real car, period
I own a 1989 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series. White with Light brown cloth seats, white half vinal top, power moon roof ,JBL radio. Took it to the shop ,did not know I own it for at lest over 10 years until the mech look up my car in the computer. I love it.
This is a beautiful car Bill. I just my first Town Car and I bought a 2003 that's low mileage but a bit tired. I'd love to buy this but you're going to charge a serious premium for this and rightly so. Town Cars are just the best if you want a car that's the last word in affordable comfort.
Bill's always looking out for us gun owners! Better not f*** with him cause you know he's packing heat!!!
best daily driver ever. If you get another supercharged one, I'd like a chance to buy it.
Ford did away with these because they were built too well for an industry that capitalizes on frequent repeat business. I have seen these with over 600,000 miles in the NY Metro area when used by livery companies. They are Sherman Tanks, parts not cheap these days if you can't find them used.
My dad used to work in the livery as a side job and LOVED these cars! 😊
The highway king love the ride
Beautiful at any angle.
In a league of their own. Grateful I’ve had a number of these.
Love your commentary, also love Town cars!
Vinny & Benny from the Bonanno family loved these. You could fit 5 golf bags or 4 mobsters in the trunk!
Love the explanation on why you need a gun at 12:38 you don't need to know where to put your maple syrup or your bag of weed if your in the great state of Florida
This is a fantastic review. Everything about this automobile is proper.
Very nice car! Great review, AS ALWAYS BILL!!
This is amazing, Ford Lincoln actually put an escape mechanism in the trunk of the Lincoln Town Cars, just in case someone found themselves in a situation where a possible mobster had put them into the trunk. This is some Goodfellas shit, Wow.
The ‘11 Vic, too. 😉
I wish Lincoln had improved the look of the '90-'97 Town Car in '98 much like Ford and Mercury did with their Panther Platform sedans instead of completely departing from that beautiful style. The '98-11 styling was really fairly risky and as in most cases probably turned off a good number of the traditional customers while failing to attract the ever so desired younger clientele. This generation sold pretty well in spite of it's looks basically because it had very little similar competition. I think the looks were improved some in '03 but still no comparison to the '95-'97. I test-drove one new back in 2010 but I was disappointed in the ride quality and felt the 2005 Park Avenue I had at the time rode much more smoothly despite it's smaller weight and size. The Town Car had also became very de-contented by 2010. I don't think you could even order a sunroof, back-up sensors, or navigation. Things you could have in earlier Town Cars and most luxury cars had in 2010 including my lesser Buick (except the nav). IMO it just was really over priced for $50K, but it was the last of an era sadly.
Your hysterical! Best car reviewer on UA-cam
It is tough moving on from my past dream car, 2001 Mercedes E class , Now I have a new one, and This one looks good
From an artistic eye, those large head rest make the interior symmetrical.
Bill, I could listen to you talk all day!
Rare as hens teeth....lol
I own an immaculate California-native, 75K mile, 2009 T.C. the same exterior (silver birch) & interior spec (black leather) as this one ☝🏼& I LO❤️E it more than LiFE iTSELF ! ! !
I love them darn things man Jesus there beautiful. I’m soon to be getting some new tires on mine do you recommend anything special for tires? I’m new to the Lincoln town car family my self. I have a 03 town car pearl white tri coat with 111.000 on it. Clean as a whistle
this is going to be my next car
My ‘91 Town Car is the most comfortable car I’ve ever owned!
I love your commentary!!
1. I WANT THIS CAR
2. I will watch all your videos even when I don't need another car.
" where to hold your maple syrup." Haha! I'm from Texas, we worry about the necessities like protection.
Bill...thats a engineered Guage protection design on that cluster frame....In the event you spill your drink in a sudden stop.....it splashing up on the dash or clusters...it has a built-in sloping ridge.....for run off of the liquid
Ahh just like my 01 Mercury Grand Marquis which I owned for over 12years and bought a Ford F150 after my Mercury .These cars could easily run over half a million miles if you maintain it , If Ford and GM are listening you really need to bring these cars back instead of these crappy crossover vehicles !
Love these cars and I 'm not from the US
I have a 2001 Lincoln town car still in good shape drives like a brand new one drives smooth had no major problems with it
Curious Cars : I sure enjoyed this video. I could listen to you all day. You have such a sense of humor. I would swap my 2011 Crown Victoria LX for this car; but I would have to keep my rims. I have those five spoke alloy rims that are reminiscent of the five spoke sporty rims that were very popular in the late 1960s and early'70s. My rims also resemble the rims on a 1971 Porsche 911S. The stupidest thing Ford Motor Company ever did was to stop building their Panther cars.
Agreed; although it's worth noting that government overreach largely contributed to Panther's demise.
Love that thing with the Silver paint and black interior!
Recently I was looking for one of these, in fact exactly like this in terms of the year and interior/exterior colours. I couldnt find it exact and settled for black on black but otherwise identical (low miles and immaculate too) - it arrives in about 7 days and ive never been so excited for a car which is odd since ive owned far more expensive vehicles than this.
I love my new 2017 Lincoln Continental
A UA-cam gem
Nice compartments to store brass knuckles, & the occasional blow torch
I have a 98 Avalon with only 211k on the dial. It has been nothing but reliable and I'll drive it till it dies. However, I am saving to buy a tc. The ride is smooth and the interior comfort is very nice.
Not the meadowlands,
It was the Secaucus swamp .
This sedan the best forever !! Really beautiful car !!
The trunk opener with the guy running away is the tops. I have no idea how that got past the lawyers.
Power trunk opening and closing as well as "suckdown". With the trunk open, just click the trunk open again on the rke or door button and be Amazed! After three of these, finally realized it'll power close the trunk.
I'm about to buy one of these Bill. 80,000 original miles. Black/black executive series.
I owned a 2010 town car! I LOVE MY TOWN CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a 2006 but I like to get a upper trim level Signature. You can also close the trunk with the key fob. I like that feature.
Sold my 1 owner 2005 Grand Marquis with 96k miles for a 2018 Toyota RAV4. Best decision I’ve ever made.
I have a 2009 with 56k miles on it. Just got it earlier this year. The only thing I would change if I could go back is getting it in black instead of white.
Because if you pull the inside trunk release...it be a shame to forget to hop out and run!😅
The Panther platform dates to 1979 (as a Ford and Mercury 1980 for Lincoln), and As a guy who has driven a few '75-'79 Lincoln Continentals, And who has owned a 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, I can tell ya, These WERE downsized! Hell, a 1970s "MIDSIZE" Buick Century is almost the SAME size as the "Panthers" 😲
Instantly when he said , "let's fire it up"! I str8 thought I could totally smoke trees with him.
Hey I'm from Vermont... We keep the syrup out in the open, and the guns.... Well out in the open too😁
I believe if ford bought these back they would sell a lot
Never say never! C’mon, Ford 🤨
@@AndrewVOdom as long as they don't change it they need to bring it back 1:1 just as it is and beef up the HP just a lil😅 and I think they will sell really good
I like this kind of car because it ruins so smooth and the suspension is great too.
I'm sure this car will come back one day.
Maybe fwd with a 4cyl turbo hahah
It's no surprise Ford had to let this car go. This 2011 Town Car is less advanced and refined that the 1993 Mercedes S class i used to own.