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  • @mynameisjeff92
    @mynameisjeff92 9 місяців тому +390

    TKO wanted us to forget about Vince by booking this Wrestlemania in a extremely Vince way😂😂😂

    • @Youngjas17
      @Youngjas17 9 місяців тому +12

      Ya you are right about that I agree with you

    • @horgh_japan
      @horgh_japan 9 місяців тому +6

      It may also be a happy accident that people gave so much attention to this. One way or the other, the pro-Cody camp will likely react by being EXTRA loud for Cody and buying more of his merch. Plus, Rock isn't completely against being a heel and will make a fine non-wrestling heel for Cody to struggle against. Stone Cold/McMahon part deux.
      I mean, remember when McMahon turned heel following the screwjob?
      Oooh ooh, even better! Cody turns heel and joins forces with The Rock as a corporate champ. Unless Cody is adamant about not being heel, this could make for NUCLEAR heat because fans are gullible.
      TKO wins this big time and HHH gets to breathe a little bit. "Bad booking" is one thing, your father-in-law being accused of awful acts, the feds getting involved and your company being embroiled in it is another.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 9 місяців тому +8

      They are going to make the hardcore fans ‘eat shit and like the taste of it’ at mania as a final tribute to vince

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. 9 місяців тому +1

      😅

    • @mezykin
      @mezykin 9 місяців тому +5

      in an extremely Vince Russo way too ;)

  • @shotgunnsean
    @shotgunnsean 9 місяців тому +64

    Nobody wanted HHH vs Roman at WM. They booed. They still went ahead and did a 30 minute match.

    • @smackdowngod
      @smackdowngod 9 місяців тому +2

      I forgot about that. I guess it wasn’t as uneventful as they thought it would be.

    • @elilass8410
      @elilass8410 9 місяців тому +10

      At least both of them could wrestle semi-decently. The Rock certainly can't, and Roman can't carry him through thirty minutes.

    • @Two-ToneMoonStone
      @Two-ToneMoonStone 9 місяців тому +1

      At least Triple H could still go, there match wasn't that bad either tbh

    • @KruelAidMan
      @KruelAidMan 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Two-ToneMoonStone it sucked lol

  • @rectangledgalaxy8033
    @rectangledgalaxy8033 9 місяців тому +151

    People are mad at the rock in the real world too. In the dc and fast and furious he basically has turbulence for the same shit he's doing here to cody, booking himself as the main event in all media.

    • @askabumm
      @askabumm 9 місяців тому +10

      Oh shut up! The fact is that The Rock is way more over than Cody could ever hope to be

    • @rectangledgalaxy8033
      @rectangledgalaxy8033 9 місяців тому +34

      @askabumm I didn't even say if he was or wasn't. I just said there's a percent out there that isn't thrilled when they hear the Rock. So idk what you want me to say.

    • @ThePindar
      @ThePindar 9 місяців тому +46

      ​@@askabummCody is way more over than the rock, people who think the contrary are the same people that only tune in for wrestlemania aka casual casuals

    • @SlimJim_Magoo
      @SlimJim_Magoo 9 місяців тому +24

      And the Oprah Hawaii thing

    • @askabumm
      @askabumm 9 місяців тому

      @@ThePindar Cody is more over than THE ROCK?!?!?! WHAT?!?!??!!? I swear the planet you smarks live on is so far away that it hasnt even been discovered yet 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jasonh.2439
    @jasonh.2439 9 місяців тому +22

    The question is, what did HHH know and when did he know it. If TKO and Nick Khan are gonna be in the business of making side deals without involving the head of creative, we're in for a world of trouble going forward.

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 9 місяців тому +6

      Levesque needs to answer that question about a few different things

  • @MrRyanlennie2005
    @MrRyanlennie2005 9 місяців тому +283

    They made Cody look a total chump.

    • @Youngjas17
      @Youngjas17 9 місяців тому +5

      Yup that’s true

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 9 місяців тому +17

      He looked like a little school boy next to the rock 😂

    • @Vision32599
      @Vision32599 9 місяців тому +2

      This hurt Cody feelings

    • @reeseangle9621
      @reeseangle9621 9 місяців тому +11

      It was like when Bret said go get him Hogan

    • @user-rx2hw8up2j
      @user-rx2hw8up2j 9 місяців тому +2

      It was like lex Luger celebrating countout summerslam 93 for me his character is a wuss I can't get behind that weak

  • @CloneJFK
    @CloneJFK 9 місяців тому +78

    If the deal was already done on January 3, either Triple H knew and is the biggest moron on the planet for booking Cody to win the Rumble, or he DIDN’T know and the top management of the company straight up kept their creative head in the dark and made him look like a doofus. Neither sounds promising.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 9 місяців тому +18

      Trips is the doofus son-in-law. 😂

    • @thegreatattila
      @thegreatattila 9 місяців тому +12

      CM Punk did refer to H as the doofus son in law.

    • @DK-BayBay
      @DK-BayBay 9 місяців тому +15

      I'm assuming he was in the dark, because I expect him to be fired at some point. With the VKM news, a clean house is what is bound to happen. No way he didn't enable because I believe he knew most, if not all of what was going on. If ppl believe Steph knew, he did too. Its why Gerwitz is back. He will take over booking at some point. Probably post WM. But for sure TKO will clear house with a statement saying theyve got rid of everyone involved and established a new culture

    • @hiddensword9387
      @hiddensword9387 9 місяців тому +3

      As Meltzer said, they've made decisions like this before and business has boomed.

    • @mattb6616
      @mattb6616 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@DK-BayBayhow is triple h getting caught in Vince's shit but Rock isn't? Rock was Vince's best friend in the attitude era. You think they weren't banging rats together?

  • @Shisui5752
    @Shisui5752 9 місяців тому +19

    What we're witnessing here is TKO directly interfering with the product. I don't see any good coming out of this if they continue to do this.

  • @leadsin99er
    @leadsin99er 9 місяців тому +15

    Meanwhile LA Knight is like, Hey Cody. Why didnt you offer the spot to me instead? I'm Fulltime. And I'm in line behind you.

  • @ThaddeusBigsby
    @ThaddeusBigsby 9 місяців тому +27

    Philly here!
    We booed The Rock and Roman back in 2015 Royal Rumble, and we have no problem booing them in 2024.

    • @djowers1349
      @djowers1349 9 місяців тому +5

      I have been saying to the few people who sorta like wrestling but don't know much. Phily is the worst city to try to do something like this in.

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 9 місяців тому

      Philly, you are a city of assholes...but America and Wrestling need you for this sacred duty. Be your best asshole selves and make the Wrestlemania 40 main event seem like Cena vs RVD at ECW ONS 2006...where both Roman and the Rock play Cena.

    • @ripman21
      @ripman21 9 місяців тому

      The thing is the majority of people coming to WrestleMania for 2 days aren't from Philly

    • @TheManWhoFeIIToEarth
      @TheManWhoFeIIToEarth 9 місяців тому +2

      Gonna need Philly to step up, don’t let us down

    • @JT82DETMI
      @JT82DETMI 9 місяців тому +1

      just walk out right before match. that will set the wrestling world ablaze lol

  • @pepethunder
    @pepethunder 9 місяців тому +8

    My worst idea for this was that Rock entered the Rumble at number 30 and won it, but despite how bad that idea was, they managed to top it.

  • @jfh.8064
    @jfh.8064 9 місяців тому +32

    To people saying this is a swerve to fool the fans and get Cody in the match.. how can they possibly make this make sense? It’s not like Cody got his match taken away in storyline and has to fight back for it like an underdog like Daniel Bryan. This was HIS choice. Cody had his shot, gave it up, and endorsed the Rock facing him at Mania. Cody declined Mania. So now he’s supposed to fight to be in the match that HE chose not to be in? There’s no route they can go now where it makes sense or makes Cody not look like an idiot. Dumbest WWE decision in a long time.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 9 місяців тому +13

      Just buried the Rumble win pointless.

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 9 місяців тому +1

      It doesn't make sense. You're right. But none of this makes any sense. Why are we getting two different stories? Did Rock want to save Mania or was this the plan for the last month? Why is this coming out now? Who's talking and why? Why? Are they just trying to say "See? We're not as stupid as we looked! This was the plan!" to save face because they actually didn't plan it in advance and were embarrassed? Or did they lie before? Why did Dave get that other story? Something has to be going on. Gotta be. This doesn't add up

    • @johnrigs6540
      @johnrigs6540 9 місяців тому +4

      No matter how WWE spins this it just looks STUPID.
      If this was their master plan - Cody winning the rumble and stepping aside for the Rock and angering the fans so Cody could be Daniel Bryan
      That’s STUPID.
      If they are just playing it straight and Cody is stepping aside and challenging Seth for the title with NO history and NO lineage
      Thats STUPID.
      So I don’t know what they are up to here but every way you look at it they just look really bad here.
      They really MUST pivot on this decision -
      Or it really will absolutely RUIN their biggest show of the year no matter how much money they all make.

    • @RavenGlenn
      @RavenGlenn 9 місяців тому

      The only way I see to turn this around would be for it to be discovered that The Rock is a snake who weaseled his way in just to have a finger poke of doom moment at WM where he lies down for Roman.
      And then Cody manages to get into the match for a triple threat that is actually a handicap match and then Cody beats both of them.

    • @KruelAidMan
      @KruelAidMan 9 місяців тому

      @@RavenGlenn WWE finally getting the match they've been trying for since the late 2010s and making it nothing would be hilarious.

  • @CursoryMercenary
    @CursoryMercenary 9 місяців тому +154

    Fucking Dwayne inserting himself into the product.

    • @dannyadeada
      @dannyadeada 9 місяців тому +11

      Have wrestling fans forgotten that Rock is the biggest star in the world and a top 3 GOAT? He is bigger than the industry he can do whatever he wants and fans will give him a thunderous ovation as he desreves.

    • @johnnysupreme5718
      @johnnysupreme5718 9 місяців тому

      ​@@dannyadeadadwayne isn't gonna give you any money little brother calm down

    • @TheFragranceApprentice
      @TheFragranceApprentice 9 місяців тому

      ​@@dannyadeadascrew old man Roids. 😅

    • @dxtremecaliber
      @dxtremecaliber 9 місяців тому +17

      ⁠@@dannyadeadai dont care because he didnt do shit for the story he wasnt part of the build Cody Rhodes won the Rumble pointed at the Mania logo and to Roman
      i like Rock i thinks hes Top 3 hes my favorite wrestler of all-time ofc hes gonna get cheered hes the Fucking ROCK but this shit dont makes any sense because we all want is consistency in the storyline this is bullshit we are not dumb lol

    • @shalom8858
      @shalom8858 9 місяців тому

      His fat daughter went from scrub to NXT general manager. Rock ruining 2 locker rooms.

  • @paulevans6076
    @paulevans6076 9 місяців тому +35

    The crazy thing is at ANY other time the fans would have been more than happy with a Rock v Reigns feud, just not NOW. Its Codys time. End of. Simple as that.

    • @mrstifler8987
      @mrstifler8987 9 місяців тому +3

      Cody’s time can be next year. Rock vs Roman needs to happen already.

    • @andrewcameron1556
      @andrewcameron1556 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mrstifler8987it should have been Cody's time last year!

    • @MattyPeq
      @MattyPeq 9 місяців тому

      Who gives a f about MidCardCodyno.

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 9 місяців тому

      @@MattyPeq Plenty of people just by the complaing on social media and the fact he's one of the highest merch movers....

  • @paulettegrazette771
    @paulettegrazette771 9 місяців тому +24

    Nepotism at its best!! Rock besties with Nick Khan, Ari is the Rocks agent… priceless..

    • @juniorkhomari1850
      @juniorkhomari1850 9 місяців тому +10

      And the rocks green daughter being named NXT manager. Which makes absolutely no sense

    • @bazzatheblue
      @bazzatheblue 9 місяців тому +5

      @@juniorkhomari1850and the rest of the family who are on the books.Its a Polynesian mafia.

  • @calvinball1
    @calvinball1 9 місяців тому +27

    I don't know how many people are like me, but I'm one of those Attitude era fans who is just recently giving the industry another look. I heard it was getting better. And with McMahon out, the political and ethical aspect of being a paid fan seemed like something I might consider again. But I don't want chaotic booking that undoes the Royal Rumble stakes. I don't need to see 51 year old Rock against Roman with no build. The only reason I'd tune in and pay is if I'm interested in the Women's division at this point.

    • @ChrisLT
      @ChrisLT 9 місяців тому +1

      It's been really good, which makes this whole thing stand out even more.

    • @splash8429
      @splash8429 9 місяців тому +2

      I mean last year has been good. They seemed focus, there was continuity, there was variety and all that

    • @MyBestPalJimbo
      @MyBestPalJimbo 9 місяців тому +1

      Not to negate any of your other points but the Women's division is pretty great these days

    • @gojirajenkins8528
      @gojirajenkins8528 9 місяців тому +2

      CANCEL PEACOCK
      BOYCOTT MANIA
      JUSTICE 4 CODY

    • @WhelmedButReady
      @WhelmedButReady 9 місяців тому

      The WWE is in a great spot these days overall. Under Triple H's creative control, there's only a handful of talent or angles that fans would say he's dropped the ball on, but that'll be the case with any company. It just sucks that decisions like this were supposed to evaporate after Vince left, yet here we are

  • @hellion7514
    @hellion7514 9 місяців тому +9

    07:44 “It’s one of the most whatever it is.” - Dave Meltzer

    • @TromaDogg
      @TromaDogg 9 місяців тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mezykin
    @mezykin 9 місяців тому +24

    it's as if Vince Russo wrote 2024's WWE booking

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 9 місяців тому +3

      SWERVED YA, BRO!

    • @jamst123
      @jamst123 9 місяців тому +2

      Russo put booker t over hogan so I doubt it

    • @mezykin
      @mezykin 9 місяців тому +2

      @@jamst123 it was initially Jarrett who was supposed to go over Hogan but it's also a bit of a swerve in itself that Booker won it later on that evening. let's not forget Russo put the belt on David Arquette.

  • @ShaqFuGuru
    @ShaqFuGuru 9 місяців тому +15

    This buried Seth and his title, deflates Cody who is super over, and will lead to the rock getting some boos.
    This is shit.

  • @X_Blake
    @X_Blake 9 місяців тому +77

    Justice for Cody.

    • @dannyadeada
      @dannyadeada 9 місяців тому +4

      Cody doesnt deserve shit. Rock draws

    • @RoninBgk
      @RoninBgk 9 місяців тому

      ​@@dannyadeadayou need help

    • @christophernear6990
      @christophernear6990 9 місяців тому

      ​@@dannyadeada and he's gonna lose to roman

    • @six6thdisciple
      @six6thdisciple 9 місяців тому +7

      JUSTICE FOR JANEL GRANT

    • @RonJP-pm7jp
      @RonJP-pm7jp 9 місяців тому +1

      I get what you’re saying but yeah it’s more serious stuff out there to get justice for. This is 1st world problems.

  • @ValSempai
    @ValSempai 9 місяців тому +73

    The funny thing is, the people that don't know about it are gonna ask "why are they booing the rock" then after the explanation theyre probably gonna boo him too xD

    • @oelboy
      @oelboy 9 місяців тому +7

      The millions of casual fans couldn't care less about the gripes of a few thousand online smarks.

    • @karma_coin
      @karma_coin 9 місяців тому +11

      @@oelboy except that the WWE UA-cam channel caters almost exclusively to casual fans, that's the focus of the channel (well, channels, there's more than one)
      and on that channel, which caters to casual fans, the face off video is WWE's most disliked video of all time by a huge margin
      this isn't the IWC smarks raging about the situation, this is primarily the more casual fans that are upset

    • @Vision32599
      @Vision32599 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@oelboytrue , the casuals ain't gonna care one bit

    • @ValSempai
      @ValSempai 9 місяців тому +6

      @@oelboy just like the casuals didnt care about daniel bryan?

    • @keatonstemler5092
      @keatonstemler5092 9 місяців тому +4

      Happen with my buddy. I was watching a Rock Cody video and he was like the rock is back and I explained and he was like yeah that is bullshit.
      Granted he was never gonna watch anyways haha

  • @johntucker7905
    @johntucker7905 9 місяців тому +53

    WWE is just asking for "Boo-tista 2: Rock's Regret"

    • @chrisgainz69
      @chrisgainz69 9 місяців тому +5

      Breakin' 2: The Most Electrifying Boo-galoo

    • @RandallWI
      @RandallWI 9 місяців тому

      Yeahhh WWE needs to make Rock the ass hole hell he was in the nation / corporation at this point cause unless Cody is inserted into this match as part of a triple threat.... fans are going to boo Dwayne every chance they can.

  • @Bandana_Boi
    @Bandana_Boi 9 місяців тому +19

    The Rock's influence and power is being felt immediately and obviously. Make no mistake, the entire wrestling world is now controlled by the Anoa'i Family.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 9 місяців тому +9

      Only WWE. The rest of the wrestling world doesn't live in WWE's fake dystopian universe.

  • @CarlSalts
    @CarlSalts 9 місяців тому +20

    The best thing about this insane booking is that the Philly crowd will RIOT. Again 🤣

    • @King0fAllPixels
      @King0fAllPixels 9 місяців тому +1

      Lol I totally forgot it was in Philly lol

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 9 місяців тому

      They won't riot... They will boo for a bit and WWE will just pipe in fake noise.

  • @7ebo
    @7ebo 9 місяців тому +31

    Crazy to think if CM Punk would’ve won the Rumble, it would’ve been the perfect story. He got injured, the Rock steps in and gets a massive pop. Now he’s the biggest heel in the business.

    • @reeseangle9621
      @reeseangle9621 9 місяців тому +3

      Facts

    • @nintendoconvert4045
      @nintendoconvert4045 9 місяців тому +7

      Wow, that actually makes sense. But there would be some conspiracy theorists saying Punk isn’t really hurt and the Rock strong-armed himself into that spot.

    • @WhelmedButReady
      @WhelmedButReady 9 місяців тому +2

      That's actually a great point. If Punk had won, it would've alleviated the stain of anyone looking like a chump because no onscreen commitment would've been made to Cody and so the Reigns match wouldn't have been set in stone. Yet another hindsight 20/20 moment in the world of wrestling

  • @Jacktrack7
    @Jacktrack7 9 місяців тому +13

    I had a friend who used to take a drink everytime Meltzer said "you know" but he died of alcohol poisoning...

  • @Insanemonk11
    @Insanemonk11 9 місяців тому +9

    They couldn't of told many people, because Cody won, he climbed the turnbuckle, pointed AT ROMAN and said "I pick you"

  • @mrplow8
    @mrplow8 9 місяців тому +4

    If the intent was to turn Cody into a martyr, why did they book it in a way that made it look like Cody is the one who didn’t want the match at WrestleMania? I don’t believe that was their intent. If they wanted him to be a martyr, the storyline would’ve been that he got screwed out of the match some how. I think they thought that by having Cody say he didn’t want the match, the fans would be okay with it because it was what Cody wanted.

  • @JFirecracker
    @JFirecracker 9 місяців тому +7

    _"And what's that? Out of nowhere, someone bigger than you comes in and takes it all away."_ Hilarious that Punk had a Moxtradamus moment after receiving _multiple_ Moxtradamus moments.

    • @lordshadow19
      @lordshadow19 9 місяців тому +4

      I know he had that slight pause and followed it up with "and I mean me" but I think he really meant Dwayne.

  • @N4divers
    @N4divers 9 місяців тому +5

    This whole thing is a disaster. It’s very Vince McMahon influenced. Even though he’s gone, things are going according to how he would do it and that’s scary

  • @xagon2012
    @xagon2012 9 місяців тому +19

    This is worse than Hogan at WM 9.

    • @Kratosx23
      @Kratosx23 9 місяців тому +8

      At least Hogan had the decency to let Bret have the match first.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Kratosx23Cody had his match last year and lost. How many chances does he needed to finish his little story? Someone else deserves a shot at Roman

    • @xagon2012
      @xagon2012 9 місяців тому +3

      @@MrJonnyl123 Even if you feel so you gotta admit this was written terribly. First they have him win the Rumble, he points at the Wm sign with Roman, clearly signalling that he wants to fight him at WM, and then days later he just gives his spot to the Rock. That is bad writing.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 9 місяців тому

      @@xagon2012 yeh they have made a mess of it. They should have had rock win the rumble

    • @mindrover777
      @mindrover777 9 місяців тому

      Ok, so what​ about bailey choosing io after she choose rhea forest@@xagon2012

  • @javi__...
    @javi__... 9 місяців тому +20

    Wwe clowning a guy that left before only to clown him when he comes back? Sounds like the same ol wwe to me. Is Vince actually gone?

    • @Youngjas17
      @Youngjas17 9 місяців тому

      Ya he is gone which thank god he did leave 😂😂

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Youngjas17You can't take the spirit of Vince McMahon creeping in the shadows out of WWE, pal.

    • @robjazer203
      @robjazer203 9 місяців тому +1

      Cody did smash the throne, though. Hunter McMahon never forgets.

    • @hezekiahramirez6965
      @hezekiahramirez6965 9 місяців тому

      @robjazer203 I would think they're probably madder about the AEW stuff

  • @andrewvaughan5686
    @andrewvaughan5686 9 місяців тому +13

    wait so if the plan was rock vs roman and punk vs seth, what was the initial plan for cody at wrestlemania after winning the rumble? that doesn't make sense?

    • @TribalChief3000
      @TribalChief3000 9 місяців тому +4

      The OG plan was not Rock/Roman until a few days ago. Dave just being Dave.

    • @andrewvaughan5686
      @andrewvaughan5686 9 місяців тому +6

      @dreb4472 I think it was, why did rock do that promo on day 1 then?

  • @Kratosx23
    @Kratosx23 9 місяців тому +26

    I *KNEW* Cody wouldn't get a proper ending to this. Absolutely knew it. 39 was the time, they fucked it up, I knew something was going to happen, I just knew it. Nothing good ever happens in this company, and it's going to get even worse once Triple H is gone and Rock and his head writer who probably thinks exactly like Vince takes over.

    • @ThePindar
      @ThePindar 9 місяців тому +7

      Exactly, the rock doesn't know shit about being a booker, he literally only got the job because of his Hollywood fame

    • @KickStaff
      @KickStaff 9 місяців тому +3

      @@ThePindar Rock is the biggest star in WWE history you should be more grateful

    • @cervantesthenilbog7513
      @cervantesthenilbog7513 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@KickStayou couldn't be more right.
      Cody is grossly overrated. His story is cliche and lame and superficial. Cody's fake emotion every week is on sociopathic levels of disingenuous.

    • @jayjaybirdsnest
      @jayjaybirdsnest 9 місяців тому +4

      @@cervantesthenilbog7513 i legit hate cody, but even i can recognise this was TERRIBLE booking and he should have been in that match.

    • @ThePindar
      @ThePindar 9 місяців тому +2

      @@KickStaff what does that have to do with the fact that he got a corporate job? He's just a charismatic wrestler and actor, knows shut about business

  • @hezekiahramirez6965
    @hezekiahramirez6965 9 місяців тому +3

    But what would Cody have been doing in the original scenario? Seth wrestles Punk, Roman wrestles Rock, and Cody... What does Cody do? None of this makes sense. There must be something else going on here. Maybe Rock is going to align with Roman and turn heel. It's just so bizarre. None of this adds up at all. There has to be more happening

  • @crimsonfire6932
    @crimsonfire6932 9 місяців тому +3

    At this point, Punk should’ve won the rumble. Injured as he might be, that would only screw up Seth’s title picture, not Roman’s.

  • @azman5267
    @azman5267 9 місяців тому +14

    The only thing that makes sense is Cody wins title at EC (takes the championship from Roman with rocks help) and Rock takes the title of “head of the table” from Roman at Mania.
    No it’s not ideal, yes Cody should win at mania but that’s obviously not happening

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 9 місяців тому +5

      Makes no sense. Makes winning the Rumble pointless.

    • @darthmaul408
      @darthmaul408 9 місяців тому +3

      Or Cody beats Seth and then unifies the belts by beating Roman at Summerslam. Again, I’m just trying to sort out the mess they’ve made here.

    • @101RadioheadCovers
      @101RadioheadCovers 9 місяців тому

      Lol, cope.

    • @dashingdreww1185
      @dashingdreww1185 9 місяців тому

      They not gonna have Roman drop the belt at like 6am in the US loll

    • @kudzimusar
      @kudzimusar 9 місяців тому

      So why do people say Cody should just win like that? In other words jus give him the title of its for entitlement. I like Cody but stories aren’t determined by fans, otherwise every face should win for the sake of it..

  • @matthewcoronado5071
    @matthewcoronado5071 9 місяців тому +1

    Marks and y’all got worked, crazy fr

  • @jarek6312
    @jarek6312 9 місяців тому +2

    Night one: Rock vs Roman
    Night two: Cody vs Roman

  • @BlakeAsheart
    @BlakeAsheart 9 місяців тому +6

    Drink game: a shot every time Meltzer says "You know".

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 9 місяців тому

      That's a great way to get shit faced quickly.

  • @user-dk6jb6hq9t
    @user-dk6jb6hq9t 9 місяців тому +6

    I live in the UK and had never heard of Dave Meltzer before but i had geard bischoff and bruce pritchard slate him. I have watched a few of his videos with an open mind but having done so, it just sounds like he is making it up as he goes

    • @user-rx2hw8up2j
      @user-rx2hw8up2j 9 місяців тому

      It could go either way and "plans change"with these two

  • @McBlickyOT
    @McBlickyOT 9 місяців тому +3

    Regardless of fans booing or not on TV, WM is in Philly! 😂😂

    • @RandallWI
      @RandallWI 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeahhh it's going to be worse than Brock vs. Goldberg from WM20 😬... can already hear the " 🗣 Rocky Sucks, Rocky Sucks, Rocky Sucks, Rocky Sucks " and " You Screwed Cody" chants already 😅😅

  • @jamesstewart8377
    @jamesstewart8377 9 місяців тому +2

    There has always been this inside thing going on throughout wrestling. It created the Attitude era with the Montreal Screwjob, maybe there is SOMEONE in the company that knows how to capitalize on this. It seems like it is perfect for blending reality in with it and using all this backstage drama on television. I highly doubt they will but they should.

  • @MIKKO-i1g
    @MIKKO-i1g 9 місяців тому +6

    #wewantcody

  • @Jay-fp7oq
    @Jay-fp7oq 9 місяців тому +13

    Cody is already revisiting the nakamora beef again 😂

  • @cosmicvcosmic
    @cosmicvcosmic 9 місяців тому +1

    saying its only people online after the segment replay got boo'd at a live event and graphic got boo'd at the NXT PLE

  • @kf660
    @kf660 9 місяців тому +1

    No idea what everyone's in an uproar about. The moment Rock appeared on Jan. 1 Raw and said he wanted a seat at the table, it was obvious that he was going to be Roman's opponent at Wrestlemania. There's no question the match had been made. Heck, they wanted the Rock v. Roman last year for Wrestlemania , but he was unavailable. This thing is a year in the making. Why did Cody win the Rumble? Probably just to cement his status moving forward post-wrestlemania. But it wasn't to set up a match with Roman at Wrestlemania.

  • @GypsySoulProductions
    @GypsySoulProductions 9 місяців тому

    This feels exactly like Arnold Schwarzenegger defeating Mike Mentzer in 1980s Mr. Olympia and getting booed by the audience. Was a big Rock fan but not anymore. No more a People’s Champ, Mr. Rocky Maivia. #wewantcody

  • @danielgarris4208
    @danielgarris4208 9 місяців тому

    Maybe he was just trying not to say too much at the time, but back on ESPN First Take on Jan. 23, from listening to Rock, it sounded like the build-up for him vs Reigns would need to be more than just a couple months (when viewing his appearance, to me it felt like Rock vs Reigns would be a WrestleMania 41 thing). On top of that, only two to three months seems like a very short amount of time for Rock to get into ring shape for a main event match, especially at his age. Taker has made no secret of how hard he had to train to be ready for his yearly Mania matches towards the end of his career.

  • @MrKGHunter
    @MrKGHunter 9 місяців тому +1

    Hey how about that great, long term booking?

  • @paulc1553
    @paulc1553 9 місяців тому +9

    We Want Cody!

  • @chrissullivan63
    @chrissullivan63 9 місяців тому +1

    #we want Cody!!!!!

  • @Leth1ferous
    @Leth1ferous 9 місяців тому

    Men's chamber could easily be for #1 contender for Gunther's IC title. Bron Breakker vs Jey Uso vs. Nakamura vs Bronson Reed vs. Andrade vs Ivar would work for me. Plenty of other guys you could add instead.

  • @cnegron621
    @cnegron621 9 місяців тому +2

    Mens chamber match will likely be to face Gunther, really the only option

  • @310Dannr
    @310Dannr 9 місяців тому

    Haha this whole video was both of them saying “idk what’s gonna happen…..I…D…K….” 😂

  • @louisjohnsoniii
    @louisjohnsoniii 9 місяців тому +2

    Perhaps WWE may actually be one step ahead of the fans. Remember Backlash @ Puerto Rico? Arguably felt like the biggest PLE of the year. Cody vs. Roman at Elimination Chamber in Australia. Elimination Chamber will be similar to Backlash....but bigger because of the high possibility of Cody taking the title - he said it himself '....not at Wrestlemania'. Roman will then be fuming b/c the Rock stepped in and got involved. Roman wants to get rid of Rock. Rock wants to finish the actual story of ending the tribal reign of Roman = Wrestlemania 40.

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 9 місяців тому

      I hope you're right but I doubt it.

  • @kaisersoze6685
    @kaisersoze6685 9 місяців тому +2

    Here’s the play: Seth comes out for his match and Cody no shows. Seth still wants a match and issues open challenge. Damian priest takes it. Then Rock wrestles Roman non-title for Tribal Chief. Rock wins, then Cody comes out with the MITB briefcase and also beats Roman for the belt. We later learn Damien traded his MITB for Cody’s title shot. Everyone wins. Well, except for Roman. Yes, I’m a genius and should write for WWE

    • @sandyunderpants4376
      @sandyunderpants4376 9 місяців тому +1

      Now this is great booking. Paul Heyman should call you, or just rip you off if he reads the commetns.

    • @kaisersoze6685
      @kaisersoze6685 9 місяців тому

      @@sandyunderpants4376 thank you! I’ve sent this DM to WWE and Conrad Thompson. Doubt I’ll get a reply but I hope so.

  • @cosmicvcosmic
    @cosmicvcosmic 9 місяців тому +3

    whats the point in being an "insider" and not report this if you knew about it for a month

  • @nielgregory108
    @nielgregory108 9 місяців тому +2

    30 million was also for lifetime use of his name and likeness.

  • @QuackMamba34
    @QuackMamba34 9 місяців тому +1

    If the decision was made January 3rd they could of at least had Rock win the Royal Rumble. Then him getting a title match is at least justified.

  • @WhelmedButReady
    @WhelmedButReady 9 місяців тому

    The fact that knew fully that it would elicit such a reaction and still went ahead with it anyway tells you how they feel about the audience in general.
    They don't want to reward the dedicated fan who's stuck with Cody's journey for 2 full years now (nearly impossible to hold babyface momentum that long in modern wrestling). They see things purely as a numbers game. Now from a business aspect that's fine. But if your hardcore base diminishes over time because they recognize you don't respect them (as it eventually did under Vince) then you only have yourselves at the top to blame.

  • @Delta-nl7pi
    @Delta-nl7pi 9 місяців тому +20

    Just Hunter being Hunter, he inserted himself in that WM Main Event for YEARS.

    • @hiddensword9387
      @hiddensword9387 9 місяців тому +1

      hunter? he's not in the main event and if you think he's had full control over this decision then you're oblivious to reality. Besides, Vince booked HHH in that spot not HHH. And he was the top heel at the time and one of the biggest draws. Simple.

    • @jasonberg6550
      @jasonberg6550 9 місяців тому

      @@hiddensword9387 If you think Criple H _didn’t_ have a hand in this then *YOU’RE* oblivious yourself. _SUDDENLY_ Trips doesn’t have creative control here?? Geez you guys love to meat ride the heck outta “Paul”.

    • @Ted_Sheckler
      @Ted_Sheckler 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jasonberg6550"Criple H". What does that even mean?

    • @jasonberg6550
      @jasonberg6550 9 місяців тому

      @@Ted_Sheckler It means that you’re a mark for Triple H(itler)

    • @jasonberg6550
      @jasonberg6550 9 місяців тому

      @@Ted_Sheckler It means that you’re a mark for Triple H(itler)

  • @Djjaims
    @Djjaims 9 місяців тому

    To me, Elimination Chamber is a perfect time to do a chamber match to find Gunther's opponent for werestlemania. You can have Gable win it there and get a big Wrestlemania storyline out of the IC title.

  • @jordanbyford2693
    @jordanbyford2693 9 місяців тому +2

    So to be clear they booked it this way on purpose wow just wow 😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @jeffreybrege7672
    @jeffreybrege7672 9 місяців тому +1

    Well they may make more money in the short run,but I think in the long run it will hurt them.

  • @jethroortega4129
    @jethroortega4129 9 місяців тому +2

    Cody: "I did it for The Rock."

  • @DK-BayBay
    @DK-BayBay 9 місяців тому +2

    I just think its funny that WWE fans are so pissed off at one of the most beloved wrestlers of all time over a match that isnt official yet. And its something theyve wanted for years...over Cody Rhodes lol. Mad as hell over this, but the VKM stuff comes out, not a single talent asked for release or said a word, no fans boycott WWE, hell folks cheered him when the initial WSJ story dropped. But this match with fake wrestling has ppl up in arms. Its kinda comical.
    I agree, how they got there is stupid. But this is a business. Lots of changes will be happening over the next year. You'll see.

  • @thesoskofactory8619
    @thesoskofactory8619 9 місяців тому +1

    #WeWantCody🎉🎉

  • @completesentences2125
    @completesentences2125 9 місяців тому +1

    Cody got booked right into the “Zack Ryder in a wheelchair” angle.

  • @michaelweston9772
    @michaelweston9772 9 місяців тому +1

    I have a 12 yr old who is all about wrestling and wwe. When I told him about Wrestlemania he looked at me, said he didn't care if he gets grounded, and yelled "fuck wwe, and fuck the rock". He has since thrown out all of his wrestling shirts and is selling all of his wrestling toys. I think wwe lost at least one fan.

  • @MrSkittlez313
    @MrSkittlez313 9 місяців тому

    Shirts are made for both NFL teams in the Super Bowl. I’m sure WWE made multiple shirts as well. In case of injuries etc

  • @BlueBloodPenn
    @BlueBloodPenn 9 місяців тому

    It’s yet another reason why Cody should have won last year. You get the story and can do Rock v Roman this year with no issues.

  • @armandogomez2677
    @armandogomez2677 9 місяців тому +1

    This is the problem with wrestling “fans” they want to see something happen but then will complain it was predictable. Just watch the movie and enjoy the ride if you don’t like it don’t watch

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 9 місяців тому +3

    I don't understand why they don't just have Roman work both nights. Do the rock one night and Cody the other. Have him beat the Rock on night one and then have Cody go over on night two

    • @rapturedbretheren7
      @rapturedbretheren7 9 місяців тому

      This kinda works but it does diminish the WHC title of Seth even further. You're just making it become more of a secondary title.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 9 місяців тому

      ​@@rapturedbretheren7Have Cody face Seth for the WHT. Roman face Rock for WWE Title. Then Roman and Cody Title for Title. Cody wins. Next night on RAW Cody announces he won't unify the belts and take the easy way. Instead he will defend both. To keep WHT as the "Worker's" Title. And to bring integrity back to the WWE Title.

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 9 місяців тому

      @@kevinlee9929 This...actually could work. Just have Roman and Cody do double duty.

  • @Mortallica03
    @Mortallica03 9 місяців тому +1

    3 things why this match happend
    1 - They are trying so hard to moe the attention from the Vince scandal
    2- Rock vs Roman was teased years ago and whit movie productions resuming full force this year this was one if not the last chance of Rock doing the match
    3 - Once Glass Phil body broke...again! Night 1 needed a main event and Seth Rollins and the World Title needed a credible challenger...other than Cody there´s nobody else to challenge for that title

  • @BUStedLosAngeles
    @BUStedLosAngeles 9 місяців тому

    If this eventually sets up a few months of a Rock /Cody/Jey vs. Roman/Jimmy/Solo, it will equal the King Tide that raises all the ships

  • @t-fresh1008
    @t-fresh1008 9 місяців тому

    The press conference in Las Vegas so are they announcing WrestleMania 41 there as well? Why press conference in Vegas?

  • @Daewonnni
    @Daewonnni 9 місяців тому +1

    Turn Rock heel if these marks want to complain. He is on the committee that owns WWE. The real head of the table.

  • @aromega10
    @aromega10 9 місяців тому +1

    Is Cody gonna go back to the aedub? Well, um, yeah, I don't know. 12.99 please.

  • @karma_coin
    @karma_coin 9 місяців тому +7

    the primary argument in defense of the decision you'll see is "well, the Rock is a bigger star than Cody" or something or along those lines
    which is a completely BS argument btw, how is WWE suppose to build fresh stars for the future if old stars keep stepping in and taking the spotlight? this isn't the first time, but this is definitely the most egregious example I can think of
    think about it this way, imagine if this was WWF WrestleMania XV, the Rock vs Austin in their first Wrestlemania title match, main event, during the build up Hulk Hogan quits WCW, comes back to WWE, and politics his way into the match to take Rock's place?
    I mean, why not? Hulk Hogan "iS a bIgGeR sTaR" 🙄

    • @cervantesthenilbog7513
      @cervantesthenilbog7513 9 місяців тому +2

      Cody is an old star that took the spotlight though.
      And he's been grossly overrated since he came back to WWE. He was lame AF in AEW. Superficial and cliche. F his story, and his dad, and his theme song, and especially his wife.

    • @Snakeskin94
      @Snakeskin94 9 місяців тому +1

      Because many of the wrestling fans who are currently wrestling fans have done everything in their power to hold younger stars back to hype up their old legends.
      They'll tell you that's not true, but they're the first ones to tell you there's no new stars when companies TRY to create new stars, and they only like the wrestling they liked as a kid.
      "Cody isn't as big as Rock."
      Ignoring that if Cody could finish his story and if talent was booked stronger and consistently, people COULD reach the Austin, Rock, Cena level. But they don't like to admit that.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Snakeskin94 Cody will never reach rock/ austin/ cena level. He is too small for one and doesn’t have the charisma. He looks like a normal dude not a superstar. If Cody Rhodes walked into a bar he’s not turning any heads

    • @Snakeskin94
      @Snakeskin94 9 місяців тому

      @@MrJonnyl123 you literally proved my point exactly; you can't let go of the past and embrace a new future. Just keep watching the same clips from 98 over and over again and leave the rest of us alone lol

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 9 місяців тому

      @@Snakeskin94 I can let go of the past. Roman is a top level guy for sure he has the look for it. Cody is just too small and dorky to be an A level guy.
      His ceiling is Jericho level at best tho Jericho had more charisma for sure. Nobody looks at Cody and thinks that guys a legit badass

  • @FakeName-xm7kj
    @FakeName-xm7kj 9 місяців тому

    It's been little less than a decade since fans turned on a main event. I was at Mania 32 and the fans turned on it from the jump

  • @MrReganomics1
    @MrReganomics1 9 місяців тому +2

    Dave, in your own newsletter last year you said the plan is for roman to pass Bob Backlund and be the guy who is second to only bruno. Why is everyone shocked Cody isnt facing Roman at mania? Do they really wanna watch Cody count the lights again...

  • @smokeaguitar3019
    @smokeaguitar3019 9 місяців тому +2

    The Rock is trying to do something for the boys and the value of the company. Cody would be happy to take a good payday stay on salary whatever. Better than the whole thing crashing down. It is a business. Distraction time.

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 9 місяців тому

      He could have done that at any time. But no, he chose now at Wrestlemania 40 and inserted himself into a year-plus long storyline. No, he's doing this for him, to get the spotlight again and scratch that itch.

  • @andrewclayterman6230
    @andrewclayterman6230 9 місяців тому +1

    Rock is getting 30 million to lose? WTF!!!!?

  • @nfortin24
    @nfortin24 9 місяців тому +1

    So what is the endgame of Seth V Cody? If Cody wins are they gunna have him lose the title before the Roman match? Would they unify a THIRD title into Romans? Neither option looks good tbh

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 9 місяців тому +1

      Booked themselves into a corner. Cody is screwed all three ways.

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 9 місяців тому

      ​@@DJSpike-ft9yw Seems like the best case scenario for Cody would be beating Seth and Priest cashing in after a Judgment Day beatdown. It still sucks but at least Cody doesn't look like a total schmuck.

    • @DJSpike-ft9yw
      @DJSpike-ft9yw 9 місяців тому

      @@meekrob He already does. Best thing for them to have done is after Cody won the Rumble, have the Rock challenge Seth for the WHC and win, then do Cody vs Roman at Wrestlemania 40 and have Cody go over. Now Rock has a legit reason to believe he’s head of the table since he has a belt and Roman doesn’t. Then do Rock vs Roman at Summerslam for the WHC and “Head of the Table.” Let Roman carry around the WHC for awhile if they want it’s prestige to be boosted. Done.
      Or we can do Seth Vs Cody (interference DQ by Roman for Heat) and Rock Vs Roman on Night 1 of WM, then do Cody Vs Roman on Night 2 with Cody going over. Then you can do Seth Vs Roman after Mania since Seth and Roman have history and Seth would be pissed at Roman for ruining his match.

  • @tommymcdougall6563
    @tommymcdougall6563 9 місяців тому +1

    Can they do Cody Roman Night 1 and Rock Roman Night 2? Or vice versa?

  • @BlackStarGabusGaben
    @BlackStarGabusGaben 9 місяців тому +1

    Couldn't have The Rock vs Reigns vs Cody 😂😂

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 9 місяців тому +1

    No one wants to see Cody vs. Seth again. The fans on Raw last week made that VERY clear. And there’s nothing to gain by it no matter who wins in the end.
    Alvarez is right, Cody is already the biggest babyface in WWE. They don’t need to do all
    This BS TO “try and make him more over.” That is stupid.

  • @kkwi5252
    @kkwi5252 9 місяців тому

    Seems like Triple H would have known, and seems a subtle but brutal way of holding a grudge against Cody.
    Always wondered how they would humble him for AEW eventually…
    This was cold.

  • @TheWillisShow
    @TheWillisShow 9 місяців тому

    People are mad because Rock gets on the board of TKO, which was publicized on their own shows, and suddenly he’s in the main event. I get it why some people are mad. Personally I want to see Rock/Roman because we may never get a chance to see it. There’s still time to finish Cody’s story.

  • @dbgrfdg
    @dbgrfdg 9 місяців тому

    This is as bad of a booking decision as peak Vince. Like, you have 2 Champion belts, 10 people that could reasonably win the Rumble, yet you decide to completely deflate the value of a Rumble win and risk The Rock geting booed over robbing the fans of a great storyline? Yes The Rock will still sell tickets for WM, but why ruin everything around it?

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 9 місяців тому +2

    This was a stupid move on WWE's part. Yes having the rock on the show is a huge money match. There's no question about that. The problem is that it's a one-time thing. They had the opportunity to put Cody in a position where he could draw them money for years to come. They might have just blown that opportunity

  • @user-zk8jd3qx2o
    @user-zk8jd3qx2o 9 місяців тому +1

    Can’t they do Rock/Roman night 1 for the head of the table and Cody/Roman night 2 for the title?

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 9 місяців тому

      A buddy of mine came up with the same idea.

  • @Strange_Da_Range
    @Strange_Da_Range 9 місяців тому

    If the wrestling gods serve me right (and they usually do) The men's Elimination Chamber match will revolve around Gunther's Intercontinental Championship.

  • @aaronneville1164
    @aaronneville1164 9 місяців тому +6

    The crowd did NOT boo when Hogan took Bret Hart's spot. Even when they did the Hogan/Yokozuna rematch fans cheered for Hogan loudly.

    • @christophermarriott1681
      @christophermarriott1681 9 місяців тому

      Different era. Today's fans are stupid.

    • @danspencer1281
      @danspencer1281 9 місяців тому +1

      We booed at home. We thought Hogan was going to win the tag titles and we're all big Bret Hart fans as well. But you are right, the crowd seemed to love it. They also tore the roof off for the Rock and Roman segment

    • @Yoshiinite
      @Yoshiinite 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@christophermarriott1681Uh no? If anything fans are way too smart to just eat up shit now lol

    • @Vision32599
      @Vision32599 9 місяців тому +1

      Today's fans like to twist everything if it doesn't go their way😂😂😂😂

  • @PhillipAlexanderGBW
    @PhillipAlexanderGBW 9 місяців тому +1

    #WeWantCody #ScrewTheRock #WWEScrewsCody

  • @dootuss83
    @dootuss83 9 місяців тому +1

    In one segment, they made Cody, and Seth look like clowns, and the WHC, and Royal Rumble match meaningless.

  • @manuelmacias5192
    @manuelmacias5192 9 місяців тому

    I’m curious to see how the coming reactions for rock and Roman will be and if it’s a negative reaction they may change things

  • @eltornadoAfm
    @eltornadoAfm 9 місяців тому

    How the hll is Brian Gerwertz back in WWE?

  • @aarong3000
    @aarong3000 9 місяців тому +4

    The Rock > stardust

    • @Kratosx23
      @Kratosx23 9 місяців тому +6

      Two problems with that. This is not Stardust, it’s Cody Rhodes, and this isn’t The Rock, it’s 51 year old steroid addict Dwayne Johnson.

  • @ctchase360
    @ctchase360 9 місяців тому

    Here’s a thought. Creative isn’t dumb enough not to have the foresight that this would be the reaction. This is what they wanted.. and guess what? There will be more twists and turns to the story. They wanted to generate buzz. Creative is heel. They know what they’re doing.