to xsf906 and others! the Kievs where classified as aviation cruisers, with a mission as escort to submarines or battlegroupes. Thev where not entented to be used like the US CVNs. The same is true for the kuznetsov though she could be used as a strikecarrier.
A bit more then that - Soviet idealogy though correct for a WWIII scenario was impractical for a blue water navy toe to toe with USN but underestimating it and calling it a "battleship" is a mistake. It's a missile VSTOL aircraft carrying cruiser. Initially armed with Bazalt AS missiles knocking opponents out of the water and in my opinion the failed Yak-38 soon to be replaced by the more powerful and improved Yak-141 never came to fruition. New planned carriers are soon to be seen.
ну да... в Америки эти авианосцы по не многу убирают так как они себя перестали оправдывать а мы их будем строить и миллиарды тратить... Авианосцы уже не на столько Эффективны как когда то были.
russia must have minimum 5 of them so she could monitor her enemy on the sea..atlantic,pacific,baltic and arctic... "he who master the sea owns the world"
you are wrong, where do you get that information? Kuznetsov max load displacement is only sligthly more than 60.000 tons, and it is not a supercarrier because the Kuznetsov is only capable of carrying up to 20 aircraft.
@Lukash9494, Rubbish! there was only ever 2 Kuznetsov class, the 1st completed and in sevice, the Kuznetsov herself and the incomplete Varag sold to China by the Ukraine without most internal machinery and engines, there were 4 Kiev class (keiv, minsk and novorrosik, all decomissioned) and the much modified 4th unit, the Gorshkov, now the Indian Vikramidyita, Kuznetsov was intended as a step between the Keivs and the never completed nuclear powered Soviet supercarrier Ulyanovsk!
At 0:56, those 12 pretty little white tubes on the bow would have housed the P-500 Bazalt missiles!
to xsf906 and others! the Kievs where classified as aviation cruisers, with a mission as escort to submarines or battlegroupes. Thev where not entented to be used like the US CVNs. The same is true for the kuznetsov though she could be used as a strikecarrier.
A bit more then that - Soviet idealogy though correct for a WWIII scenario was impractical for a blue water navy toe to toe with USN but underestimating it and calling it a "battleship" is a mistake. It's a missile VSTOL aircraft carrying cruiser. Initially armed with Bazalt AS missiles knocking opponents out of the water and in my opinion the failed Yak-38 soon to be replaced by the more powerful and improved Yak-141 never came to fruition. New planned carriers are soon to be seen.
Talk about betting on the wrong type of warfare equipment. Soviets had a idea they believed was that way of the future. How wrong were they..lol
ну да... в Америки эти авианосцы по не многу убирают так как они себя перестали оправдывать а мы их будем строить и миллиарды тратить... Авианосцы уже не на столько Эффективны как когда то были.
russia must have minimum 5 of them so she could monitor her enemy on the sea..atlantic,pacific,baltic and arctic... "he who master the sea owns the world"
you are wrong, where do you get that information? Kuznetsov max load displacement is only sligthly more than 60.000 tons, and it is not a supercarrier because the Kuznetsov is only capable of carrying up to 20 aircraft.
where is the 3 new carrier ? it's already 2013
For Mother Russia!
based on what facts that the Russian carriers are better ? could you please elaborate?
Just remember to stop and fill up on coal every 3 days. ok?
ok?
@Lukash9494, Rubbish! there was only ever 2 Kuznetsov class, the 1st completed and in sevice, the Kuznetsov herself and the incomplete Varag sold to China by the Ukraine without most internal machinery and engines, there were 4 Kiev class (keiv, minsk and novorrosik, all decomissioned) and the much modified 4th unit, the Gorshkov, now the Indian Vikramidyita, Kuznetsov was intended as a step between the Keivs and the never completed nuclear powered Soviet supercarrier Ulyanovsk!
russia needs to build new aircraft carriers.
lol.
lol.