valid points another part to mention about a game having a story is it encourages players to keep playing to see the end of the story a little push further in endgame content imo :)
Personally, i like the part in satisfactory where scaling is a challenge, and aren't hand held through everything, it gives you more of a sense of accomplishment when you figure out how to make things all the better without just easy progression all the way through.
Jace leaves then suddenly this happens 😂 seriously though, this is excellent news for both games and this makes me very happy! Techtonica sounds like it’s doing everything right to pull in players and offer them a unique experience, and Satisfactory can still learn from Techtonica and be an even better game! ❤ And this just goes to show there’s no single right way to develop a game in this genre
Great News! As of the 0.3x update there are Vertical Belts in Techtonica! I began playing Techtonica (I guess) shortly after 0.3x came out and had Vertical Belts the whole time. First Factory Game I've played with vertical belts. (I haven't played Satisfactory..)
Ive been a big fan of Satisfactory for a while and have pumped many hours into it but I have never reached end game. Always get stuck at some point between coal and oil. I can see all these new technologies but dont really know how to go about starting to use them. Just bought Techtonica and hopefully I might be able to progress with that further.
Satisfactory taught me that I only care about the factory growing when another entity wants to cause it to shrink. I want combat in my factory games. Factorio and now Dyson Sphere Program have spoiled me.
Does Techtonica have a resource sink, underclocking, and infinite resources? I really like seeing that all my machines are working by looking for a flat power consumption line. I'll probably get it either way, but I want to know what to expect.
In order: No, No, and Yes. But you also don't have to worry about a power spike turning off your entire factory, so the underclocking kind of takes care of itself.
Continuing with my best of breed analysis, 🦆🕊️🦉🦅the reason Warcraft was or maybe still is the largest is because of it's story line and easy to achieve goals to make you feel busy. 🌕🌗🌑 The ability to change the camera is essential so definitely agree with that. And of course to extend the comparison Dyson Sphere is 64x🌞⭐ the magnitude but becomes cut and paste with the blueprints. Which has not yet been mentioned if they have in TechT.⛏️
No blueprints in Techtonica as far as I found sofar, but it also doesn't really need any. The scale isn't as insane as it quickly becomes in Satisfactory, so no need to put down dozens of the same building.
Let's just say I'm in the camp that wasn't a big fan of the laser update. I *guess* I kind of see what they were going for, but .. meh. That said, it's not like that diminishes the rest of the game, it's just a feature I will never use. But yes, I definitely plan on revisiting the game!
While I would agree with some of your points, the tech tree is a problem... because you have to find each of the required items to scan. Which usually isn't a problem, but it is possible to overlook the one or more of an item you need to scan. I have seen this happen to a couple of streamers. And yes, they found what they missed, but a less experienced gamer might not be able to without getting frustrated. As far as possible burn out, that's difficult to say because I have not seen the Techtonica late game to compare it to Satisfactory.
Good point, I have definitely overlooked items myself although there are more items to scan than you strictly need. You also get guided to the most important stuff through the quests, so it's hard to really miss anything vital. Still, I can see that happening and it would definitely be frustrating!
@@TheDutchActuary Well, for most of the equipment -- yes, there are multiple items making it harder to miss. But those upgrade things (whatever they are called)... if you miss one of those, by the time you realize it you could be tough to know where to look. All that said, there are more serious problems. First off, inserters simply are not fast enough. Either they have to increase their speed or slow down the machines. But beyond that, not giving the crafting rates and belts speeds in a 2023 factory game? That is almost criminal.
"better game" beaten the game under 6 hours and now left with nothing to do and just waiting for updates to come.. but hey it was high priced early access game with bugs and poor opt all around and barely any content to the game but no worries I can just mindlessly dig dig dig for days until they drop updates for the game but who knows when we'll get more updates? months? years? no idea. The idea behide the game is great but the game it's self isn't, The UI is a mess and there's no keybinds let alone this game loves to eat your GPU and CPU and has barely any content for a game worth the price it is and yes I understand it's "Early Access" but they could've made the game cheaper for the time until content came around. But trying to compare this to Satisfactory is a joke, That's like trying to compare this game to Factorio and we all know what game would destroy there.
So on a fairly casual playthrough of Techtonica I'm at end game in less than 50 hours. This is rather disappointing consider the scope the game is capable of. But at this point not only is there literally nothing left to accomplish, but the game is beginning to lag severely from the amount of structures I have created in my factory. Its not even a lot of structures. in Satisfactory which I have over 1500 hours in and still plenty left to do, the amount of structures which is lagging out Techtonica is about the same as I would use in a single oil refinery which wouldn't lag at all. I have literally dozens of times more structures in Satisfactory with no lag whatsoever. The map size in Techtonica is also ridiculously small compared to Satisfactory, and there are no environmental hazards to deal with if you like that sort of thing. I mean, you don't even take fall damage. The point is that while Techtonica was a slightly different sort of challenge, it wasn't very challenging. It leaves you player feeling like... "ok, but where is the rest of the game" when its over. Or worse, "I'm glad its over, because the game obviously can't handle a bigger factory". So I'm not knocking Techtonica for what it is, but it is a pale shadow of what Satisfactory is.
Fair points! It definitely feels like there should be 'more' of just about everything. But keep in mind we're currently on version 0.1, and there is a lot more content planned to be added before release (specifically, more narrative/exploration content for 0.2)
One of your points was that because Techtonica makes it more explicit that you need to automate and not hand-craft, it's a better game??? How is that relevant to gameplay at all, there is literally 0 players who don't understand that in either game. It's a total nothing-burger
@@ZM-dm3jg I agree with you anyone who's actively played games like this for a while likely won't make that mistake. But luckily there are new players coming into the genre all the time. Most first timers *may* think of partially automating materials, but many of them don't actually build a mall. Myself included, until I saw someone more experienced do it. It's one of those things that is soooo obvious once you see it, but isn't necessarily obvious unless someone tells you to do so. This game does ;)
I agree. I like Satisfactory, but sometimes I feel paralyzed when starting some builds, because of how big they have to be. I can get productive much more quickly in Techtonica.
Satisfactory is a great game but it drags out the mundane tasks to the point you quit after a 3 hiur session and realise all youve done is build a skybridge to coal
It is hard to tell what I think about rhe game since it has not been released yet :( But I totally agree what Satisfactory around tier 4-5 just slams you in a face and says that everything you have built by now is more or less useless, and you have to start all over again but go much-much bigger. And it would have been okay if only the game provided you with the tools to deal with the complexity. Blueprints and hoverpack are helpfull but they are way too limited for the task.
Satisfactory's transition into Computers/HMF/Rail and beyond is where I usually give up. Needing a rail network to cover the distances between the factories, but not having the mats is so frustrating. The game becomes a logistical nightmare at the same time you are needing to build much bigger than before. Slapping down temporary stuff never feels good because it takes ages to dismantle.
Yup, that was right where I started losing interest in the game, and then started playing something else. It really felt more like a job than a game at that point.
@@Milkym0o you just can't think large scale. Transition was pretty easy once you find a spot you like. It's so easy to simply belt in resources and make what you need whereever. All you're saying is you can't handle something more complex.
At a performance perspective....techtonica is super poorly optimized and crashed peoples computers like crazy..... idk.... Ive played satisfactory at 4k fully cranked on a 3070 and plays smoothly.
I will be honest. You'r points are for the most part either preference thing or nitpicking. On the other hand they are valid and explained well enough to make me go "Hmmm, I will try Techtonica and make my own mind". So if putting more eyeballs on this game was one of your objectives, good job. Overall it's a good vid, have a like.
Techtonica hits differently, and I agree with you about this being a better game than Satisfactory. Don't get me wrong I like Satisfactory but, the amount of work you have to do over and over again gets to be a bit much. Techtonica is initially a bit overwhelming trying to learn the different mechanics, but if you stick with it, it becomes a very satisfying game to play.
Hopefully performance will be improved. I started dropping frames very fast into the playthrough. From talking with people on the discord there is most likely a memory leak and cores from the core composer probably cause frame drops because there are hundreds of them being placed and animated.
I think here's the biggest issue with Techtonica, It doesn't look satisfying. Hilariously the name of Satisfactory IS because it's so satisfying to watch, your factories look amazing, Factorio has this also.
I agree satisfactory has the better graphics, but Techtonica has an amazing vibe to it (thanks to the story and the *amazing* voice acting. Sorry ADA!)
I played demo before, and from what I seen back then: 1) Game literaly never tells you how much items per minute each machine produces, or how much items per minute can belts carry. How are you suppose to plan factories then? (biggest disatvantage so far - i hope they fixed that in EA, but from what I've seen in LPs - they didn't). Because of that - I disagree with a point that techtonica is easier to learn. The rest is just small nitpicks and personal preferencies: 2) I don't like the concept of power floors - I like manual wiring in satisfactory. I can chose what connects to what, easily separate power grids and get cool power cables all around my factory. And laying those cables is another gameplay challenge. And it also provide a sence of realism wich helps with suspension of disbelief and feeling of immersion. 3) I don't like factorio-style "auto-upgrade", when all of your already placed buildings suddenly gets faster when you buy some upgrade, and suddenly you carefully planed factory breakes because you planned for slower buildings and now belts are full. 4) On the opposite side - if I remember correctly from the demo - resources in techtonica are finite. I do like that. Forces you to actually plan how much items you can get from speccific ore node. Satisfactory have a very amazing concept of alternate recipies, but what's the point of picking the most efficent one if you can just wait longer? But when resources are finite - you actually motivated. 5) VOXELS! Destructable terrain is a biggest advantage this game have over satisfactory! No need to lay foundations over not flat terrain - just make terrain itself flat! 6) I like stylized graphics of this game more than photorealism of satisfactory. And the whole atmosphere of huge fully destructable underground world too! 7) As for the story - from what i've seen in LPs - combination of silent protagonist and almost constantly speaking companion who tries to be serious doesn't really work for me. It's either one or the other - the sence of lonliness with a silent protagonist and no/rare companions or not silent one. Still - have to wait for EA to actually decide which one is better.
Point 1) is definitely what bugs me the most, although I get the feeling this is very much intentional. The ratio's between production speeds are such that it is pretty much impossible to make a ' perfect ' factory. Which is both a good and a bad thing, depending on your perspective.
@@TheDutchActuary And that's another advantage of satisfactory - underclocking. Even with the most awkward ratio you can simply overbuild, then underclock your factories so at least one of raw resources is maximized, then underclock the raw resource (miners) that produces more than you need - and you still get a perfect factory. So - awkward ratios is not really a problem. And also - it's not like you have to build an absolutly perfect factory, but knowing a speed is still important, at least that you place enough machines for you belt.
IMO Techtonica is severely lacking in the UI department as well as controls, in comparison to Satisfactory. So far as I can see, there is no way to determine machine ratios or what kind of speed they run at. Doesn't even display how much ore a miner will extract per second or minute. Or how fast a belt moves. Building is more clunky. And so on. That being said though it's literally day 1, so these things are expected as they are lower priority than just getting the game to work. But at the same time it would be disenguous to say that it's better than a game that's had several years to polish and add on these things. Overall though I am optimistic for this game and hope it does one day outshine Satisfactory.
Satisfactory has a unique art style that I don't think we'll see in another game, but OMG I wish it were easier to play and more convenient. I like seeing more choices. There is another one called Foundry I've seen on Steam but it seems further from release than Techtonica.
hmmm no and yes. for me its a little bit limited from the beginning to the "end" but thats also a challange :) but its early access so we will see whats happens in the future :D
requiring research cores immediately made me think of xenominer. it was a space survival block game where you had to worry about oxygen and radiation during the day. this game could easily be its predecessor if they added those aspects in some way. they also had a little robot you could find and program to build and mine which its the only thing like it ive ever seen in any game.
I like this comment because if they mixed survival aspects like xenominer it would pose a challenge and keep you hooked, also imagine they added wave type swarms that you had to produce ammunition and weapons to defeat
I am eager to get this! I really love Satisfactory, and this mix of minecraft and satisfactory grabs my attention. Satisfactory is the pioneer in FIRST person factory game AFAIK, But there are things that other games improved, for example, the "sorters" in astro colony ar far better. But Satisfactory is light years in front of any other in terms of graphic design. Keep the good work!
What is the challenge? Is this another game with no enemies, no timer, no challenge to overcome? You just build with as much time as you need, with nothing to stop you, until you meet some goal? I love factory games, but I can't bring myself to play satisfactory type game where there is no challenge beyond multiplying fractions together with as much time as I need to do it. There has to be something that forces me to think with consequences if I do not think adequately. That is my definition of a game. If I win no matter what and cannot lose, I don't feel like I am playing a game, but rather just doing repetitive tasks with no point in doing them. That might be fine for some people, but I do not get dopamine hits that way. There has to be lose conditions with a good chance of them occurring if I make stupid decisions or fall asleep on the toilet. It doesn't have to be zergs of factorio beasties, and tower defense, but there has to be something that results in a loss.
This game has no enemies or threats, but it does provide clear goals with the story line. Unlike Satisfactory, that means you're expanding for a reason other than ' because the factory must grow ' . Not that there's anything wrong with that either. For me the dopamine hit comes when I see my perfectly organized factory come to life! :D
People keep complaining about the finite recourses but ive had my node pumping out materials for the past 3 days and when they run out i have a conveyor going to more nodes i feel infinite nodes would ruin the game and make it unplayable and boring
Many players like these games for the intellectual challenge of building a factory, and as a way to relax. For them, being chased around by enemies is not part of the (interesting) challenge. Dyson Sphere Program is working on an update to introduce enemies and MANY players have reacted negatively to that, while another large group is looking forward to it. DSP enemies will be 100% optional, and for similar reasons Satisfactory recently provided an update that allows you to turn enemies friendly. That way, everyone gets what they want! :)
@@TheDutchActuary 🤨what!? Satisfactory has monsters? 😯😯😯. This is my first time hearing about Dyson…. (I’m stuck on console🤫) (EVERY GAME ON EARTH NEEDS OVERWHELMING OPTIONS IN THE OPTIONS MENU) Thanks I’ll look into these things.
valid points another part to mention about a game having a story is it encourages players to keep playing to see the end of the story a little push further in endgame content imo :)
Satisfactory devs are saving the story for 1.0 release.
This game is closer to shapezio than it is to satisfactory.
@@JavierSalcedoC fortresscraft evolved, but underground and no enemies.
I just started playing last night. I woke up and played all day today due to the reason you mentioned.
Personally, i like the part in satisfactory where scaling is a challenge, and aren't hand held through everything, it gives you more of a sense of accomplishment when you figure out how to make things all the better without just easy progression all the way through.
Jace leaves then suddenly this happens 😂 seriously though, this is excellent news for both games and this makes me very happy! Techtonica sounds like it’s doing everything right to pull in players and offer them a unique experience, and Satisfactory can still learn from Techtonica and be an even better game! ❤ And this just goes to show there’s no single right way to develop a game in this genre
Hmm, I was watching that gameplay in the background. Does the game not have the vertical conveyor/elevator belt like in Satisfactory?
Not that I found so far, which is a bit weird so I do expect this to be added sometime soon.
Great News! As of the 0.3x update there are Vertical Belts in Techtonica! I began playing Techtonica (I guess) shortly after 0.3x came out and had Vertical Belts the whole time. First Factory Game I've played with vertical belts. (I haven't played Satisfactory..)
Techtonica was what I wanted satisfactory to be in terms of building.
Ive been a big fan of Satisfactory for a while and have pumped many hours into it but I have never reached end game. Always get stuck at some point between coal and oil. I can see all these new technologies but dont really know how to go about starting to use them. Just bought Techtonica and hopefully I might be able to progress with that further.
This game is a lot less daunting in scope, i'm sure you'll have no problem finishing it! Enjoy!
Satisfactory taught me that I only care about the factory growing when another entity wants to cause it to shrink.
I want combat in my factory games. Factorio and now Dyson Sphere Program have spoiled me.
A sandbox is fun, but some urgency goes a long way to keeping some of us (including myself) going!
Does Techtonica have a resource sink, underclocking, and infinite resources? I really like seeing that all my machines are working by looking for a flat power consumption line.
I'll probably get it either way, but I want to know what to expect.
Only 2 more days until you can try it out yourself.
In order: No, No, and Yes. But you also don't have to worry about a power spike turning off your entire factory, so the underclocking kind of takes care of itself.
Continuing with my best of breed analysis, 🦆🕊️🦉🦅the reason Warcraft was or maybe still is the largest is because of it's story line and easy to achieve goals to make you feel busy. 🌕🌗🌑 The ability to change the camera is essential so definitely agree with that. And of course to extend the comparison Dyson Sphere is 64x🌞⭐ the magnitude but becomes cut and paste with the blueprints. Which has not yet been mentioned if they have in TechT.⛏️
No blueprints in Techtonica as far as I found sofar, but it also doesn't really need any. The scale isn't as insane as it quickly becomes in Satisfactory, so no need to put down dozens of the same building.
Do you still think that's the case.
Given the last updates like Lasertag in a factorygame...
...maybe it is time to give an update on your opinion. Satisfactory 1.0 on the way :-)
Let's just say I'm in the camp that wasn't a big fan of the laser update. I *guess* I kind of see what they were going for, but .. meh.
That said, it's not like that diminishes the rest of the game, it's just a feature I will never use. But yes, I definitely plan on revisiting the game!
While I would agree with some of your points, the tech tree is a problem... because you have to find each of the required items to scan. Which usually isn't a problem, but it is possible to overlook the one or more of an item you need to scan. I have seen this happen to a couple of streamers. And yes, they found what they missed, but a less experienced gamer might not be able to without getting frustrated. As far as possible burn out, that's difficult to say because I have not seen the Techtonica late game to compare it to Satisfactory.
Good point, I have definitely overlooked items myself although there are more items to scan than you strictly need. You also get guided to the most important stuff through the quests, so it's hard to really miss anything vital.
Still, I can see that happening and it would definitely be frustrating!
@@TheDutchActuary Well, for most of the equipment -- yes, there are multiple items making it harder to miss. But those upgrade things (whatever they are called)... if you miss one of those, by the time you realize it you could be tough to know where to look. All that said, there are more serious problems. First off, inserters simply are not fast enough. Either they have to increase their speed or slow down the machines. But beyond that, not giving the crafting rates and belts speeds in a 2023 factory game? That is almost criminal.
@@TheMrTact Valid points, and most of those are simple to adress. Hoping the devs will do so, to make this good game even better!
"better game" beaten the game under 6 hours and now left with nothing to do and just waiting for updates to come.. but hey it was high priced early access game with bugs and poor opt all around and barely any content to the game but no worries I can just mindlessly dig dig dig for days until they drop updates for the game but who knows when we'll get more updates? months? years? no idea.
The idea behide the game is great but the game it's self isn't, The UI is a mess and there's no keybinds let alone this game loves to eat your GPU and CPU and has barely any content for a game worth the price it is and yes I understand it's "Early Access" but they could've made the game cheaper for the time until content came around.
But trying to compare this to Satisfactory is a joke, That's like trying to compare this game to Factorio and we all know what game would destroy there.
You beat the game in 6 hours? Whut? :O
So on a fairly casual playthrough of Techtonica I'm at end game in less than 50 hours. This is rather disappointing consider the scope the game is capable of. But at this point not only is there literally nothing left to accomplish, but the game is beginning to lag severely from the amount of structures I have created in my factory. Its not even a lot of structures. in Satisfactory which I have over 1500 hours in and still plenty left to do, the amount of structures which is lagging out Techtonica is about the same as I would use in a single oil refinery which wouldn't lag at all. I have literally dozens of times more structures in Satisfactory with no lag whatsoever. The map size in Techtonica is also ridiculously small compared to Satisfactory, and there are no environmental hazards to deal with if you like that sort of thing. I mean, you don't even take fall damage.
The point is that while Techtonica was a slightly different sort of challenge, it wasn't very challenging. It leaves you player feeling like... "ok, but where is the rest of the game" when its over. Or worse, "I'm glad its over, because the game obviously can't handle a bigger factory". So I'm not knocking Techtonica for what it is, but it is a pale shadow of what Satisfactory is.
Fair points! It definitely feels like there should be 'more' of just about everything. But keep in mind we're currently on version 0.1, and there is a lot more content planned to be added before release (specifically, more narrative/exploration content for 0.2)
One of your points was that because Techtonica makes it more explicit that you need to automate and not hand-craft, it's a better game??? How is that relevant to gameplay at all, there is literally 0 players who don't understand that in either game. It's a total nothing-burger
You'd be surprised at the amount of players who handcraft for a LONG time in games like Dyson Sphere, or never think to make a mall.
@TheDutchActuary I would actually be shocked if any players who aren't journalists did that. It's a factory / automation game lol..
@@ZM-dm3jg I agree with you anyone who's actively played games like this for a while likely won't make that mistake. But luckily there are new players coming into the genre all the time. Most first timers *may* think of partially automating materials, but many of them don't actually build a mall. Myself included, until I saw someone more experienced do it.
It's one of those things that is soooo obvious once you see it, but isn't necessarily obvious unless someone tells you to do so. This game does ;)
I agree. I like Satisfactory, but sometimes I feel paralyzed when starting some builds, because of how big they have to be. I can get productive much more quickly in Techtonica.
Satisfactory is a great game but it drags out the mundane tasks to the point you quit after a 3 hiur session and realise all youve done is build a skybridge to coal
Yup!
If only you can play for more than two seconds without the game freezing or crashing lol this game is actual dogshit rn
I'm sorry to hear you're having so many problems! Other than bugged loading times, I have not encountered any issues myself.
Easier, simpler, more limited in space and straightforward all around than Satisfactory
I m Bored Of Satisfactory.....
Nothing wrong with doing something else then!
It is hard to tell what I think about rhe game since it has not been released yet :(
But I totally agree what Satisfactory around tier 4-5 just slams you in a face and says that everything you have built by now is more or less useless, and you have to start all over again but go much-much bigger. And it would have been okay if only the game provided you with the tools to deal with the complexity. Blueprints and hoverpack are helpfull but they are way too limited for the task.
Satisfactory's transition into Computers/HMF/Rail and beyond is where I usually give up. Needing a rail network to cover the distances between the factories, but not having the mats is so frustrating. The game becomes a logistical nightmare at the same time you are needing to build much bigger than before. Slapping down temporary stuff never feels good because it takes ages to dismantle.
Yup, that was right where I started losing interest in the game, and then started playing something else. It really felt more like a job than a game at that point.
@@Milkym0o you just can't think large scale. Transition was pretty easy once you find a spot you like. It's so easy to simply belt in resources and make what you need whereever. All you're saying is you can't handle something more complex.
At a performance perspective....techtonica is super poorly optimized and crashed peoples computers like crazy..... idk.... Ive played satisfactory at 4k fully cranked on a 3070 and plays smoothly.
I will be honest. You'r points are for the most part either preference thing or nitpicking. On the other hand they are valid and explained well enough to make me go "Hmmm, I will try Techtonica and make my own mind". So if putting more eyeballs on this game was one of your objectives, good job.
Overall it's a good vid, have a like.
I would play it if the UI wasn't so bad and the art style repulsive.
Techtonica hits differently, and I agree with you about this being a better game than Satisfactory. Don't get me wrong I like Satisfactory but, the amount of work you have to do over and over again gets to be a bit much. Techtonica is initially a bit overwhelming trying to learn the different mechanics, but if you stick with it, it becomes a very satisfying game to play.
Hopefully performance will be improved. I started dropping frames very fast into the playthrough. From talking with people on the discord there is most likely a memory leak and cores from the core composer probably cause frame drops because there are hundreds of them being placed and animated.
I think here's the biggest issue with Techtonica,
It doesn't look satisfying. Hilariously the name of Satisfactory IS because it's so satisfying to watch, your factories look amazing, Factorio has this also.
I agree satisfactory has the better graphics, but Techtonica has an amazing vibe to it (thanks to the story and the *amazing* voice acting. Sorry ADA!)
I played demo before, and from what I seen back then:
1) Game literaly never tells you how much items per minute each machine produces, or how much items per minute can belts carry. How are you suppose to plan factories then? (biggest disatvantage so far - i hope they fixed that in EA, but from what I've seen in LPs - they didn't).
Because of that - I disagree with a point that techtonica is easier to learn.
The rest is just small nitpicks and personal preferencies:
2) I don't like the concept of power floors - I like manual wiring in satisfactory. I can chose what connects to what, easily separate power grids and get cool power cables all around my factory. And laying those cables is another gameplay challenge. And it also provide a sence of realism wich helps with suspension of disbelief and feeling of immersion.
3) I don't like factorio-style "auto-upgrade", when all of your already placed buildings suddenly gets faster when you buy some upgrade, and suddenly you carefully planed factory breakes because you planned for slower buildings and now belts are full.
4) On the opposite side - if I remember correctly from the demo - resources in techtonica are finite. I do like that. Forces you to actually plan how much items you can get from speccific ore node. Satisfactory have a very amazing concept of alternate recipies, but what's the point of picking the most efficent one if you can just wait longer? But when resources are finite - you actually motivated.
5) VOXELS! Destructable terrain is a biggest advantage this game have over satisfactory! No need to lay foundations over not flat terrain - just make terrain itself flat!
6) I like stylized graphics of this game more than photorealism of satisfactory. And the whole atmosphere of huge fully destructable underground world too!
7) As for the story - from what i've seen in LPs - combination of silent protagonist and almost constantly speaking companion who tries to be serious doesn't really work for me. It's either one or the other - the sence of lonliness with a silent protagonist and no/rare companions or not silent one.
Still - have to wait for EA to actually decide which one is better.
Point 1) is definitely what bugs me the most, although I get the feeling this is very much intentional. The ratio's between production speeds are such that it is pretty much impossible to make a ' perfect ' factory. Which is both a good and a bad thing, depending on your perspective.
@@TheDutchActuary And that's another advantage of satisfactory - underclocking.
Even with the most awkward ratio you can simply overbuild, then underclock your factories so at least one of raw resources is maximized, then underclock the raw resource (miners) that produces more than you need - and you still get a perfect factory.
So - awkward ratios is not really a problem.
And also - it's not like you have to build an absolutly perfect factory, but knowing a speed is still important, at least that you place enough machines for you belt.
IMO Techtonica is severely lacking in the UI department as well as controls, in comparison to Satisfactory. So far as I can see, there is no way to determine machine ratios or what kind of speed they run at. Doesn't even display how much ore a miner will extract per second or minute. Or how fast a belt moves. Building is more clunky. And so on.
That being said though it's literally day 1, so these things are expected as they are lower priority than just getting the game to work. But at the same time it would be disenguous to say that it's better than a game that's had several years to polish and add on these things.
Overall though I am optimistic for this game and hope it does one day outshine Satisfactory.
Satisfactory has a unique art style that I don't think we'll see in another game, but OMG I wish it were easier to play and more convenient. I like seeing more choices. There is another one called Foundry I've seen on Steam but it seems further from release than Techtonica.
hmmm no and yes. for me its a little bit limited from the beginning to the "end" but thats also a challange :) but its early access so we will see whats happens in the future :D
I wasn't sure if I wanted to get this game or not. I love satisfactory though so I probably would have eventually. Now I don't have to wait, thx TDA
I have only 1 reason Techtonica is better than Satisfactory, available on Xbox
Still playing it on PC, but I hope the controller will be worth trying as my poor keyboard needs a break lol xD.
requiring research cores immediately made me think of xenominer. it was a space survival block game where you had to worry about oxygen and radiation during the day. this game could easily be its predecessor if they added those aspects in some way. they also had a little robot you could find and program to build and mine which its the only thing like it ive ever seen in any game.
I like this comment because if they mixed survival aspects like xenominer it would pose a challenge and keep you hooked, also imagine they added wave type swarms that you had to produce ammunition and weapons to defeat
I am eager to get this! I really love Satisfactory, and this mix of minecraft and satisfactory grabs my attention. Satisfactory is the pioneer in FIRST person factory game AFAIK, But there are things that other games improved, for example, the "sorters" in astro colony ar far better. But Satisfactory is light years in front of any other in terms of graphic design. Keep the good work!
What is the challenge? Is this another game with no enemies, no timer, no challenge to overcome? You just build with as much time as you need, with nothing to stop you, until you meet some goal?
I love factory games, but I can't bring myself to play satisfactory type game where there is no challenge beyond multiplying fractions together with as much time as I need to do it. There has to be something that forces me to think with consequences if I do not think adequately. That is my definition of a game.
If I win no matter what and cannot lose, I don't feel like I am playing a game, but rather just doing repetitive tasks with no point in doing them. That might be fine for some people, but I do not get dopamine hits that way. There has to be lose conditions with a good chance of them occurring if I make stupid decisions or fall asleep on the toilet. It doesn't have to be zergs of factorio beasties, and tower defense, but there has to be something that results in a loss.
This game has no enemies or threats, but it does provide clear goals with the story line. Unlike Satisfactory, that means you're expanding for a reason other than ' because the factory must grow ' . Not that there's anything wrong with that either.
For me the dopamine hit comes when I see my perfectly organized factory come to life! :D
This game has no combat and is just a builder… lame
People keep complaining about the finite recourses but ive had my node pumping out materials for the past 3 days and when they run out i have a conveyor going to more nodes i feel infinite nodes would ruin the game and make it unplayable and boring
Why do you think they’re so reluctant to put monsters in these games??
Many players like these games for the intellectual challenge of building a factory, and as a way to relax. For them, being chased around by enemies is not part of the (interesting) challenge.
Dyson Sphere Program is working on an update to introduce enemies and MANY players have reacted negatively to that, while another large group is looking forward to it.
DSP enemies will be 100% optional, and for similar reasons Satisfactory recently provided an update that allows you to turn enemies friendly.
That way, everyone gets what they want! :)
@@TheDutchActuary 🤨what!? Satisfactory has monsters? 😯😯😯. This is my first time hearing about Dyson…. (I’m stuck on console🤫)
(EVERY GAME ON EARTH NEEDS OVERWHELMING OPTIONS IN THE OPTIONS MENU)
Thanks I’ll look into these things.