Gustav Mahler - Kindertotenlieder

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  • Gustav Mahler - Kindertotenlieder nach Gedichten von Friedrich Rückert | Poems by Friedrich Rückert
    Christa Ludwig, Alt (Contralto)
    BPO, Herbert von Karajan.
    I. Nun will die Sonn' so hell aufgeh'n
    II. Nun seh' ich wahl, warum so dunkle Flammen
    III. Wenn dein Mutterlein
    IV. Oft denk' ich, sie sind nur ausgegangen
    V. In diesem Wetter, in diesem Braus
    Rückert-Lieder • Gustav Mahler - Rücker...
    Kindertotenlieder

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  • @yaeltestarco5049
    @yaeltestarco5049 3 роки тому +42

    I. 00:00
    II. 6:15
    III. 11:59
    IV. 17:05
    V. 20:32

  • @vlacamacho
    @vlacamacho 2 роки тому +32

    Musica bella, maravillosamente interpretada. Mahler supo traducir el dolor humano en musica.

  • @eunaelee9087
    @eunaelee9087 3 роки тому +17

    23:00 absolutely beautiful

  • @alessandromartini6621
    @alessandromartini6621 3 роки тому +14

    Musica meravigliosa!

  • @annacyran716
    @annacyran716 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful songs by G.Mahler und amazing Mezzo by Ch.Ludwig ! Merci ! 🙏💙💫💙❤️🎼❤️👏👏👏🌹

  • @Rabadamtimtimti
    @Rabadamtimtimti 3 роки тому +6

    O du, des Vaters Zelle,
    ach, zu schnell
    erlosch'ner Freudenschein!
    IThe poetry of Rückert is immense. Great beauty as well as unfathomable grief.

  • @jatmnnn3438
    @jatmnnn3438 7 років тому +9

    maravilloso...

  • @tobefree8510
    @tobefree8510 4 роки тому +26

    So beautifully interpreted !!!

  • @marlenegagne1978
    @marlenegagne1978 Рік тому +1

    Merci Nelson c’est vraiment beau je suis en train de l’écouter avec Jacques

  • @maksbo1456
    @maksbo1456 2 роки тому +9

    слушаю и слышу как Чарлз Эммерсон Винчестер III, даже немного плакаю. вот жежь... спасиБо!..

    • @deivi1
      @deivi1 Рік тому +1

      Haha just came here after watching that episode of MASH!

    • @MariaKomadanovic-uv4ob
      @MariaKomadanovic-uv4ob 2 місяці тому

      M.A.S.H🍸🍸🍷😅. And the Crew.

  • @jacquesdales444
    @jacquesdales444 4 роки тому +3

    belle musique belle pochette de disque

  • @stephendunda437
    @stephendunda437 4 роки тому +17

    WOW - EVEN BETTER: type "Gustav Mahler Kindertotenlieder" in the search bar above and WATCH as well as listen to Matthias Goerne sing this live with the NHK Symphony Orchestra (Japan) conducted by Paavo Jarvi in 2016. I wasn't even aware that Mahler didn't specify that the singer had to be female. The vocal part lies comfortably within the range of either a mezzo-soprano or a baritone, but I've always seen if performed by a woman (in this case, a contralto). BUT I MUCH PREFER THE BARITONE - this voice range is relatively the same as that of the cello and trombone, and thus can't "screech" out a too-fast vibrato sound that actually clashes with the violins and the oboe of the orchestra. And Goerne's performance is superb - expressive and moving, but without being dominating - this performance is truly a collaboration between voice, instruments, conductor, and composer. And don't forget to read the excellent Wikipedia discussion of the piece before watching and listening - remember, the English translation is "Songs on the deaths of children" - this Mahler's setting to music of 5 of the 426 poems written by Friedrich Ruckert as a lament to the deaths of his children (childhood diseases were SO prevalent in the 19th century!)

    • @DonCYHaute
      @DonCYHaute 3 роки тому

      The poems are written from man's perspective. To my mind this piece is for baritone essentially. But according to Thomas Hampson, Mahler said of the way he wrote lieder that he imagined them in the kind of voice he physically knew, ie male (though he wasn't a singer himself as far as I know), but with the intention that they be generally open to interpretation in other voices. I think this particularly (or perhaps specifically) applies to the Des Knaben Wunderhorn collection, which was intended as a cultural artifact for mass consumption and propagation among the folk of his homeland as the poems already were.

    • @DonCYHaute
      @DonCYHaute 3 роки тому

      Update: I now believe the statement by Thomas Hampson I was referring to is actually primarily about the other set of Ruckert-Lieder, which Mahler premiered (the 4 he orchestrated anyway) with different singers for each song in the same concert, which certainly speaks a lot about his sense of versatility and taste in the matter, however unlike those pieces, Kindertotenlieder is of course a cycle with a single continuous narrative written by Ruckert from the first person perspective of having lost his own children, so I still feel baritone is more appropriate there.
      The point of accessibility to a broad and intersubjective public that I made with regards to the Wunderhorn collection and as it applies to all of Mahler's work still stands though. Whatever works and connects people to the music and its message is ultimately right.

    • @WetaMantis
      @WetaMantis Рік тому

      I cannot find it. Do you think it was taken down?

  • @TheAdamGaz
    @TheAdamGaz Рік тому +2

    Haunting......

  • @diegoteruel7069
    @diegoteruel7069 2 роки тому +3

    Mahler era judio, una cultura de inmensa sensibilidad absolutamente inigualable a cualquier otra, donde la heterodoxia y la discrepancia y nuevas aportaciones son mas apreciadaas que la ortodoxia. Es su inmensa i bellísima aportación al pensamiento humano progresista.

    • @annacyran716
      @annacyran716 Рік тому

      Yes…agree., Mahler is Universal ! 💙💫💙🎼💙

  • @progrow6767
    @progrow6767 2 роки тому +3

    I first heard of this work of genius from the incredible novel by Richard Powers called "Orfeo."

    • @shanedm3396
      @shanedm3396 Рік тому +1

      I just learned about it from the memoir by Leslie Maitland: Crossing the Borders of Time.

    • @woody21
      @woody21 Місяць тому

      Et moi j'ai découvert cette oeuvre dans le roman de John Irving "l'œuvre de DIEU, la part du diable", 👌

  • @maksbo1456
    @maksbo1456 2 роки тому +2

    в таких случаях рад своей аудиосистеме )

  • @stephendunda437
    @stephendunda437 4 роки тому +18

    Perhaps it takes several listenings of some of Mahler's other works (Symphony No. III, movements 4 & 6, for example), as well as 3 or 4 hearings of this piece as well, to get to appreciate it. Mahler is one of my 2 favorite composers, but even I, with a Master Degree, admit I had to listen to the 4th and 6th movements of his Symphony No.III many times to truly appreciate and be touched by them. On the other hand, the 1st movement of that same 3rd Symphony, as well as his 4th, grabbed my attention immediately and wouldn't let go! I also needed to listen to "Kindertotenlieder" even more times than his symphonies to catch all the subltle details.As for this particular performance, I felt that Christa Ludwig's vibrato sometimes was a little too "jackhammer-like" for me to hear non-altered pitches during the louder moments - does every opera singer speed up their vibrato when singing louder? However, as far as the rest of the piece goes, what a fabulous tour de force for the English Horn! (a gorgeous and much-underutilized orchestral instrument). And the French Horn solos and the bold 4-part horn sections were vintage Mahler!

    • @DonCYHaute
      @DonCYHaute 3 роки тому +1

      Vibrato pushes out more air. It's much easier to get volume that way than with pure resonance, but at the cost of sounding any good. Also I think musically illiterate classical elitists must think it's some really advanced traditional technique where it's supposed to sound bad, which it basically is.

    • @molybdaenmornell123hopp5
      @molybdaenmornell123hopp5 8 місяців тому

      It comes across as though many classical singers are reluctant to sound human and fragile, as though a cracked or feeble voice is thought inappropriate regardless of the subject matter.

  • @mitsverdi5832
    @mitsverdi5832 2 роки тому +1

    🌹😭🌹😭🌹😢🌹

  • @CosmosWorld
    @CosmosWorld 10 місяців тому +5

    I do not understand these musical pieces emotionally, i can only imagine the immense pain of the listener who had already lost a child and listens to this.

  • @marcofulviobarontini443
    @marcofulviobarontini443 2 роки тому +3

    Karl Steins all'oboe. Stupendo

  • @sketylol4664
    @sketylol4664 3 роки тому +11

    Que hermosa! La vi en un manga y no pemse que me iva a gustar tanto

  • @maicwand
    @maicwand Рік тому +1

    Well that was depressing 🥲

  • @davidwright8432
    @davidwright8432 2 місяці тому

    I believe in neither god nor 'fate', but I could never, ever write 'Child-death Songs' if all my children were living. As Mahler's were, when he wrote those songs.

  • @magmaking1770
    @magmaking1770 11 місяців тому +1

    Anyone else come here after hearing Charles Winchester III play it in an episode of M*A*S*H?

    • @miro.georgiev97
      @miro.georgiev97 2 місяці тому

      Really? I never would've thought something this obscure (relatively speaking - _everyone_ has heard of Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart, but not nearly as many have heard of Mahler) would feature in such a popular show.

  • @seanjpstroud
    @seanjpstroud 3 роки тому +3

    Richard Powers brought me here

  • @tylertamihana7717
    @tylertamihana7717 8 місяців тому +16

    This work is especially relevant considering the atrocities occuring in Palestine

    • @Vidasonik_DaVidA
      @Vidasonik_DaVidA 3 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @diegoteruel7069
      @diegoteruel7069 14 днів тому

      @@Vidasonik_DaVidA Specialy by terrorist of Hamás.Israel defends itself!

  • @c57b9
    @c57b9 Рік тому +3

    Martin Servaz brought me there

  • @knudbalandis9757
    @knudbalandis9757 2 роки тому +7

    christa ludwig had an incredible voice and personality. i really ndo adore her. still, this is not the best recording. part of it is due to the slow and somewhat undramatic orchestral playing.
    a pity, i loved ludwig with berry and bernstein doing "des knaben wunderhorn".

  • @panosgiochalas480
    @panosgiochalas480 2 роки тому +1

    L.E. until 06:15

  • @emmabu2626
    @emmabu2626 Рік тому

    3:40

  • @doloresdevera433
    @doloresdevera433 2 роки тому

    Kindertotenlieder struggente musica desolata.....

  • @zarekz5058
    @zarekz5058 4 роки тому +2

    Rayuela [113]

  • @phillipabramoff7374
    @phillipabramoff7374 Рік тому

    Charles Winchester brought me here

  • @gillesfourmon-lt2tn
    @gillesfourmon-lt2tn Рік тому

    U

  • @emmabu2626
    @emmabu2626 Рік тому

    1 0:17

  • @handsafter
    @handsafter 2 роки тому +3

    too sentimental for such badass name

  • @alexgregorj
    @alexgregorj 2 роки тому

    Bisogna aver vissuto almeno 35 anni per capire questa musica

  • @Fyodorovich
    @Fyodorovich 2 роки тому +4

    The oldest drip music 🥵🥵😫💯💯

  • @MrBoernerBer
    @MrBoernerBer 2 місяці тому +1

    meta

  • @MaestroWenarto
    @MaestroWenarto Рік тому

    ugh Karajan....so slow

  • @idaksnatur8316
    @idaksnatur8316 3 роки тому +2

    Ich finde keine Stimmigkeit in der der schrillen Frauenstimme, da höre ich lieber eine klagende Oboe...leider!