About W/L record, there was once a QB who for ten years didn’t win a single playoff game and yet was worth 2 1sts with another QB in a trade package. That player was Mathew Stafford and the Rams won the SB the first year with him.
And Stafford threw the season into Tartts lap for a second pick of the day in the playoffs, but tartt inexplicably dropped it. Thats your legend. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
@@crystalballersEvery championship has some luck. Without Stafford they don’t get to that game and he made tons of plays in the post season that Goff never could
@@crystalballers he’s not my legend, also yes luck is a factor in any game or sport. You think Brady became the goat without any luck? One day Herbert may be better than Stafford but for now he’s not and that’s okay
Harbaugh is here now 1 he does is change the whole the dynamic of a team did it with san fran with alex smith as his qb and he turned them into a top tier defense as well
Will this guy shut up about the win loss record? If he thinks Justin Herbert doesn’t play winning football, then he has never turned on a chargers game before. He’s the only reason the chargers have been competitive in games for years. Coaching injuries and defense have absolutely sucked and let down Justin Herbert.
Herbert just had not gotten it done. He inherited a roster filled with stars on both sides of the ball and did nothing with it. Now we will see if he us actually legit or not
@@damion1011 Talent doesn't mean a damn thing without production. In Herbert's first 3 seasons, the defense gave up more points than any team (3 year span) in history. Don't be dense.
Everybody gives mahomes so much credit but what you guys don't think about or say is that Andy Reid is going to go down as a Hall of famer and is an offensive genius what happens when my Holmes doesn't have Andy Reid
Kennan and Mike Williams were barely healthy when they were on the team. I don’t get why ppl think Herbert is gunna just fall of bc they’re gone. He’s already played like half his career with one or the other injured.
How is that possible, he is 3rd All time ? When he has been so badly injured last 2 or 3 seasons, Broken Ribs Broken fingers etc. when most QB’s would have benched themselves . What happens when he is healthy and his team ?
He's a stud who plays thought injury and bad coaching. Healthy with an experienced head coach? The sky is the limit. Hopefully it's not too late for a SB.
It is per game played. For the most part Herb would throw for a ton of yards and we still lose. They probably do not count the games he did not start in, so the average stays high.
Wins and losses are not a QB stat. Trying to pin the chargers W-L record on Herbert, when their defense has been historically bad the last 3 years, makes Brockman sound like an idiot.
The dude who said W/L record maybe never played and/or does not understand that football is undeniably a team sport? And if he doesn't recognize that Herbert is a huge winner stuck in a mediocre organization, well, that's on him.
What QB in the league has had success in 3 different Offensive schemes in 4 years? What quarterback has had to score more than 24pts a game to win cause his defense has been bottom 5 his entire career? What quarterback has had cracked ribs and broken fingers and still been more productive than most his peers? Name any quarterback in the league that could have succeeded as a Charger under those circumstances? You prolly thought Mahomes and no one else. This dude IS elite, easily top 5 and every team that passed on him in the draft is kicking themselves cause this dude made his team competitive despite no run game and a bottom rung defense. Herberts W/L record is proof that defense is key to winning games cause if he had at minimum a top 15 defense (that’s a 7 point swing on average in favor of the Chargers) then all these knuckleheads would be jumping out their seats to compare him to Mahomes week after week. This is why analysts and opinion takes are all drama cause these people recognize elite qb play but refuse to give credit where credit is due. I expect better from you guys.
It's always a big deal having your starting QB return from injury... I still believe in Herbert despite what anyone says. I think Harbaugh can turn things around for him and the Chargers
@@quentinjonesjr7130Mack , Bosa, James, jC Jackson, Nasir adderly, 1st rounder Murray, middle of the pack o line, allen, Williams, exckler . He has had the talent but couldn’t get it done
@@damion1011 My guy that defense was trash ranked wise and they we're not utilized or prepared right at all plus herbert hasn't played bad either not to mention the injuries as well
Lovee you Rich, but the Denver game is *not* the first division game that Mahomes has lost. Chargers with Herbert have beaten them twice. One was a gift and doesn't really count. Last game of the season and the starters sere being rested. But the Chargers went into Arrowhead in Week 3, 2021 and beat the Chiefs 30-24.
Thank you! I had this injury a couple of months ago where I needed to get a shot in my foot to gain mobility back So it takes a while to fully recover plus you gotta do stretching
Obviously he has the best healthcare money can buy, but I have a hard time believing he's 100% and this injury is fully behind him. This can go chronic real easily.
Yep the Mahomes stans have finally crossed the line into lunacy. You can't even talk about another QB, for any reason it seems, not that one is coming back from an injury or that he's third in some statistic. If you do this some kind of affront to Mahomes, some kind of debate against their lord and savior Mahomes,
Mahomes had preciously never lost a divisional game? Rivers beat him. Herbert has beat him. Look, Mahomes is on his way to being the best ever but that claim wasn't accurate.
Justin Herbert is really talented but so far he seems to have been on track for the same career as Rivers who had to go through very tough competitions (Big Ben, Brady, Peyton) to even reach the AFCCG let alone the Superbowl. The AFC is loaded once more.
All those yards per game and he has nothing to show for it. One playoff appearance and no playoff wins, like it or not, his legacy, like all QBs, is defined by postseason success. Danny White made it to three straight NFC title games and most Cowboy fans don't remember him.
Brockman pull up the facts about how the chargers have had the 31st ranked defense since Herbert’s been in the nfl and Herbert also has the most GW drives since being in the league under 2 minutes just for his defense to blow it and fire him the ball back with 30 seconds left. His “win/loss record” would be remarkably better but things OUTSIDE of his control have been the downfall of the chargers organization. It’s cursed , the hate on Herbert is borderline idiotic and makes no sense whatsoever
Where is mike mccoy now? Wheee is anthony lynn now? I have my doubts brandon staley will land any DC job in the near future. This team consistently hire average HC to pair with top QB, harbaugh Herbert just feels different
How long would Brady have lasted in the league if he had been drafted by the Chargers? Situations make or break guys-Herbert in Brady's spot (w/coach BB) would have a couple rings by now. Get a clue, bud.
Chargets fans can defend Herbert to their blue in the face, but I watch him completely fall apart for the critical half of playoff football against a team they should have beat. He had the opportunity to be that guy and he didn't. His coach deserved majority of blame, but Herbert could have done ANYTHING and won them that game.
What if you had Mahomes, CMC, T.J, and the best player(s) from every team on one team led by the worst NFL coach; would they win the Super Bowl? Posters, if you’ve played AND coached football before, on a scale of one to ten, with ten being very important, how important is talent?
I hope he doesn’t get caught but I’m completely fine with him cheating. Chargers fans have seen many heart breaking losses to Belichick and Tom. Wouldn’t mind some of that bs for our team
@@Tony525_ are you insinuating I’m a chargers fan? 😂😂😂 my team has more super bowls than you’re great great grand children will even see being fans of the back to back to back to back Super Bowl losers 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Peyton Manning says Justin Herbert is the 3rd best qb in the NFL. You haters can take your garbage opinions about Justin Herbert and shove them up you know where. Without Justin, the Chargers are winless.
Did the raiders trade their running back cuz that running back was the only reason that they beat the chargers pretty much now they don't have them raiders are f*****
Yeah…. I think you forgot about the defense and all that Jones, Crosby, Koonce, Spillane and the gang did. I hope that foots fully healed come sept. 8th because all we did was add Wilkins and give Wilson a complete and healthy off season so good luck 🤷
It's not plantar faciitis..... it's an injury to the plantar facia, it's different. I've had plantar faciitis too and it is indeed a lingering injury ( a lot of rolling the sole of your foot on a beer bottle and a lot of pain, but you can beat it. )
No one said he’s 100% but he was medically cleared by medical professionals to get out of the boot and return to practice with soft shoes and such. He was already seen scrambling and moving around the pocket looking great. He’s gonna be okay
Herbert’s stats haven’t led to a single playoff win, nor has he played enough to be considered 3rd on that list. Harbaugh is going to crush Herbert’s game stats with his game style. Oh, and the chargers need to finish higher than 3rd for once.
Q: Is there a more injury-prone QB than Justin Herbert?! All the talent in the world can’t make up for being injury-prone. So with that being said, it amazes me that the Chargers don’t have a better backup QB than Easton fkkn Stick. He’s so horrible, he wouldn’t even make the cut in the UFL, let alone the NFL 🤦🏽♂️
He was banged up yes it happens when you're playing with the worst defense year in year out and having to do it all with no defense and no coaching..... this year will be different
Mahomes has as many playoff wins as Lamar Allen Burrow Herbert Dak Lawrence and Tua combined….3 more rings along with the MVP….2xLeague MVP’s why is this a debate? He has no rivals either! Here’s one for ya…Raiders all time playoff record 25-20…Chargers are 12-19 Broncos are 23-19….Pat Mahomes is 15-3 in year 7😳 those 3 losses were an away SB vs the Bucs and 2 other losses where he wasn’t able to see the ball in ot which has now changed! HES A FREAK!
About W/L record, there was once a QB who for ten years didn’t win a single playoff game and yet was worth 2 1sts with another QB in a trade package.
That player was Mathew Stafford and the Rams won the SB the first year with him.
Stafford and McVay over Herbert and Harbaugh
And Stafford threw the season into Tartts lap for a second pick of the day in the playoffs, but tartt inexplicably dropped it. Thats your legend. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
@@crystalballersEvery championship has some luck. Without Stafford they don’t get to that game and he made tons of plays in the post season that Goff never could
@@crystalballers he’s not my legend, also yes luck is a factor in any game or sport. You think Brady became the goat without any luck? One day Herbert may be better than Stafford but for now he’s not and that’s okay
@@mattmarlowe8395absolutely not
The problem with Herbert is the defense and coaching.
Harbaugh is here now 1 he does is change the whole the dynamic of a team did it with san fran with alex smith as his qb and he turned them into a top tier defense as well
Mack,James,adderly,bosa,Jackson,Murray, etc..
@@damion1011 All hurt right now by the way
@@damion1011 did you see who was coaching them?
Can't wait to hear the excuses when they miss the playoffs again
Justin Herbert always did what he needed to do, but our defense and our coaching destroyed our objectives and endeavors
Will this guy shut up about the win loss record? If he thinks Justin Herbert doesn’t play winning football, then he has never turned on a chargers game before.
He’s the only reason the chargers have been competitive in games for years. Coaching injuries and defense have absolutely sucked and let down Justin Herbert.
Only 2 people have turned on a TV to watch the Chargers including you.
"this guy" ....
Jesus Christ
You're mad at facts?
@@sinoverlord409Corny 😂😂😂
Herbert just had not gotten it done. He inherited a roster filled with stars on both sides of the ball and did nothing with it. Now we will see if he us actually legit or not
Herbert did beat Mahomes in KC in 2021 Rich!
How many times has Herbo given his PUTRID defenses leads late in games only to have them fold???
Mack,Bosa,Jackson,Murray, tranquil, James, adderly, etc.. he has had the talent on defense
@@damion1011 Talent doesn't mean a damn thing without production. In Herbert's first 3 seasons, the defense gave up more points than any team (3 year span) in history. Don't be dense.
@@damion1011 ranked 25th-32nd in his 4 years.
@@romeoossogaming6455 Let em know 🗣️
@@jal2550Speak! 🗣️
Unbelievable stats plaing for a dysfunction team. Hopefully they can give Justin some support on both sides of the ball.
Can always count on Brockman to be a hater.
“jUsT sTaTiNg FaCtS” well brockman, why don’t you talk about how bad the defense has been since Herbert debuted
Derwin James, Khalil Mack, Joey bosa , Nasir adderly, Kenneth Murray , drue tranquil, JC Jackson….
blows a 27-0 lead
generational choker
@@damion1011Ya and those guys ranked bottom 3 in the league
@@damion1011JC Jackson ? Lmao, is he even on a team right now?
@@damion1011 just because you have star players doesn't mean the scheme worked. they had the worst run defense for years
Everybody gives mahomes so much credit but what you guys don't think about or say is that Andy Reid is going to go down as a Hall of famer and is an offensive genius what happens when my Holmes doesn't have Andy Reid
The Chiefs will have their pick of the top offensive minds in the game. Guys will be begging to coach him.
Kennan and Mike Williams were barely healthy when they were on the team.
I don’t get why ppl think Herbert is gunna just fall of bc they’re gone. He’s already played like half his career with one or the other injured.
How is that possible, he is 3rd All time ? When he has been so badly injured last 2 or 3 seasons, Broken Ribs Broken fingers etc. when most QB’s would have benched themselves . What happens when he is healthy and his team ?
He's a stud who plays thought injury and bad coaching. Healthy with an experienced head coach? The sky is the limit. Hopefully it's not too late for a SB.
It is per game played. For the most part Herb would throw for a ton of yards and we still lose.
They probably do not count the games he did not start in, so the average stays high.
Stick is happy finally we don’t have to talk about him anymore LOL
Wins and losses are not a QB stat. Trying to pin the chargers W-L record on Herbert, when their defense has been historically bad the last 3 years, makes Brockman sound like an idiot.
The dude who said W/L record maybe never played and/or does not understand that football is undeniably a team sport? And if he doesn't recognize that Herbert is a huge winner stuck in a mediocre organization, well, that's on him.
Jim so ecstatic that he doesn’t have to put Easton stick in the lineup for the raiders lol
Rivers beat mahomes in arrowhead in 2018 on Thursday night football. Justin herbert beat mahomes in arrowhead in 2021. Get your facts straight rich
Easton Stick and Chargers offense have 0 TD's in the last 5 games dating back to last year...YIKES.
He’s horrific
What QB in the league has had success in 3 different Offensive schemes in 4 years? What quarterback has had to score more than 24pts a game to win cause his defense has been bottom 5 his entire career? What quarterback has had cracked ribs and broken fingers and still been more productive than most his peers? Name any quarterback in the league that could have succeeded as a Charger under those circumstances? You prolly thought Mahomes and no one else. This dude IS elite, easily top 5 and every team that passed on him in the draft is kicking themselves cause this dude made his team competitive despite no run game and a bottom rung defense. Herberts W/L record is proof that defense is key to winning games cause if he had at minimum a top 15 defense (that’s a 7 point swing on average in favor of the Chargers) then all these knuckleheads would be jumping out their seats to compare him to Mahomes week after week. This is why analysts and opinion takes are all drama cause these people recognize elite qb play but refuse to give credit where credit is due. I expect better from you guys.
Eagles.
It's always a big deal having your starting QB return from injury... I still believe in Herbert despite what anyone says. I think Harbaugh can turn things around for him and the Chargers
It's not about turning things around for herbert it's more about the team if anything
@@quentinjonesjr7130Mack , Bosa, James, jC Jackson, Nasir adderly, 1st rounder Murray, middle of the pack o line, allen, Williams, exckler . He has had the talent but couldn’t get it done
@@damion1011 My guy that defense was trash ranked wise and they we're not utilized or prepared right at all plus herbert hasn't played bad either not to mention the injuries as well
Let em know Quentin 🗣️
@@damion1011I love how you used the same argument in all the comments but never responded to real facts you sound like a Raiders fan !! 😂
Lovee you Rich, but the Denver game is *not* the first division game that Mahomes has lost. Chargers with Herbert have beaten them twice. One was a gift and doesn't really count. Last game of the season and the starters sere being rested. But the Chargers went into Arrowhead in Week 3, 2021 and beat the Chiefs 30-24.
And Mahomes also lost to the Chargers in division in 2018, Phil to Mike Dub for the walk-off.
I hope JHerb doesn't turn into a Carson Wentz situation
You want to ground and pound then you need a qb that still scares your secondary.
Most completions and most yards in his first four seasons of any quarterback in history, Justin Herbert, you can hate him, but the boys got talent!!!!
Just because he's back doesn't mean he's 100%
Thank you!
I had this injury a couple of months ago where I needed to get a shot in my foot to gain mobility back
So it takes a while to fully recover plus you gotta do stretching
@@robmiller2221you’re not Justin Herbert.
Burrow rushed back last year
Burrow rushed back last year
@@damion1011 Burrow is not Justin Herbert
Obviously he has the best healthcare money can buy, but I have a hard time believing he's 100% and this injury is fully behind him. This can go chronic real easily.
Yep the Mahomes stans have finally crossed the line into lunacy. You can't even talk about another QB, for any reason it seems, not that one is coming back from an injury or that he's third in some statistic. If you do this some kind of affront to Mahomes, some kind of debate against their lord and savior Mahomes,
Glad you admit it.
I wish Brady was back so they can shut up 😂! He’s good though we have to beat him so we can have Herbo shut his heaters up
Mahomes had preciously never lost a divisional game? Rivers beat him. Herbert has beat him. Look, Mahomes is on his way to being the best ever but that claim wasn't accurate.
Brandon Staley is a quarterback killer.
Broncos are about to ruin bo nix 😂😂😂😂
Justin Herbert is really talented but so far he seems to have been on track for the same career as Rivers who had to go through very tough competitions (Big Ben, Brady, Peyton) to even reach the AFCCG let alone the Superbowl. The AFC is loaded once more.
Saying the chiefs get 6 wins automatically every year is a lie and you know it Rich.
4th season as a chargers fan …
Newbie but you came at a good time bolt up
Wow! Welcome to the squad! This is my 21st season. ⚡ Up.
Been a fan since 76, Hopefully our Bolts can win it all before I die!
@@davecidade5018I'm with you on that one brother. The time is now. ⚡
20, buckle up it ain’t for the faint of heart.
Hey wait charger not gonna charger gotta see it to believe it😂😂😂
All those yards per game and he has nothing to show for it. One playoff appearance and no playoff wins, like it or not, his legacy, like all QBs, is defined by postseason success. Danny White made it to three straight NFC title games and most Cowboy fans don't remember him.
Like Brockman wouldn't want Herbert on the Patriots? nah, he wouldn't mind at all.
Brockman pull up the facts about how the chargers have had the 31st ranked defense since Herbert’s been in the nfl and Herbert also has the most GW drives since being in the league under 2 minutes just for his defense to blow it and fire him the ball back with 30 seconds left. His “win/loss record” would be remarkably better but things OUTSIDE of his control have been the downfall of the chargers organization. It’s cursed , the hate on Herbert is borderline idiotic and makes no sense whatsoever
Where is mike mccoy now? Wheee is anthony lynn now? I have my doubts brandon staley will land any DC job in the near future. This team consistently hire average HC to pair with top QB, harbaugh Herbert just feels different
How long would Brady have lasted in the league if he had been drafted by the Chargers? Situations make or break guys-Herbert in Brady's spot (w/coach BB) would have a couple rings by now. Get a clue, bud.
Chargets fans can defend Herbert to their blue in the face, but I watch him completely fall apart for the critical half of playoff football against a team they should have beat. He had the opportunity to be that guy and he didn't. His coach deserved majority of blame, but Herbert could have done ANYTHING and won them that game.
“That’s the 1st time Mahomes has lost in division!” Uhhh what? Chargers beat him at home in 2018 his first year starting 😂
What if you had Mahomes, CMC, T.J, and the best player(s) from every team on one team led by the worst NFL coach; would they win the Super Bowl?
Posters, if you’ve played AND coached football before, on a scale of one to ten, with ten being very important, how important is talent?
Mahomes wasn’t undefeated in the division coming into last season rich lmaooo
PLEASE get rid of Uncle Fester sidekick, he’s horribly biased to be on an all-32 NFL talk show. The other support guys are great.
If the Dolphins took Herbert, with those receivers he would have 6,000 yards
What's the over/under Harbaugh gets caught cheating again?
I hope he doesn’t get caught but I’m completely fine with him cheating.
Chargers fans have seen many heart breaking losses to Belichick and Tom. Wouldn’t mind some of that bs for our team
some busty bots here lmao
Herbert, Sherbet, Baby Gerbert. Chargers still gonna finish 3rd in the AFC West
Boooo!
Not the mahomes first division loss. Justin herbert beat mahomes in arrowhead in 2021
Brockman is terrible. Terrible takes, and he's not even close to talented enough to be alongside Rich.
Like watching paint dry very slowly.
Titans will win Super Bowl 59 20-0 titanup 🤣🤣🤣😆🤣😆😆😆😆
Glad even you know that’s a good joke
Cool story bro...That team wont finish above 500
The bills gonna struggle buddy …
@BratatoChip I'd be salty if I had an over rated qb and gay coach too
@@Tony525_ don’t talk about your team like that man :/
@BratatoChip When was the last time you won your division? Your own city don't even want that trash team...I can do this all day, BUDDY
@@Tony525_ are you insinuating I’m a chargers fan? 😂😂😂 my team has more super bowls than you’re great great grand children will even see being fans of the back to back to back to back Super Bowl losers 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lame segment
Brockman is such a punk. Little weasel couldn't give Harbert the nod.
Peyton Manning says Justin Herbert is the 3rd best qb in the NFL. You haters can take your garbage opinions about Justin Herbert and shove them up you know where. Without Justin, the Chargers are winless.
Brockman is one of those idiots who thinks wins are a QB stat
Herbert isnt him and it's sad to see so many chargers fans thinking he is a savior. This injury will nag him. Will be rough
Brockman is so scummy, really makes him look like he doesn’t know anything about football
Brockmans lowkey annoying af.
Chargers are the off-season champs. Every yr they get picked to win the division 😂😂🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Lolo no projections are picking that? Theyre projected 2 or 3
Lmao mad nobody gives af about the gayders I see
Did the raiders trade their running back cuz that running back was the only reason that they beat the chargers pretty much now they don't have them raiders are f*****
Yeah…. I think you forgot about the defense and all that Jones, Crosby, Koonce, Spillane and the gang did. I hope that foots fully healed come sept. 8th because all we did was add Wilkins and give Wilson a complete and healthy off season so good luck 🤷
Broccman is just a talentless instigator has to Google everything yeah what knowledge you have sir 😉
I’ve had this injury
I don’t believe he’s 100%
This lingers so & obvs I look at who LA has week 1
The Raiders
Good luck
It's not plantar faciitis..... it's an injury to the plantar facia, it's different. I've had plantar faciitis too and it is indeed a lingering injury ( a lot of rolling the sole of your foot on a beer bottle and a lot of pain, but you can beat it. )
No one said he’s 100% but he was medically cleared by medical professionals to get out of the boot and return to practice with soft shoes and such. He was already seen scrambling and moving around the pocket looking great. He’s gonna be okay
Herbert’s stats haven’t led to a single playoff win, nor has he played enough to be considered 3rd on that list. Harbaugh is going to crush Herbert’s game stats with his game style. Oh, and the chargers need to finish higher than 3rd for once.
Q: Is there a more injury-prone QB than Justin Herbert?! All the talent in the world can’t make up for being injury-prone. So with that being said, it amazes me that the Chargers don’t have a better backup QB than Easton fkkn Stick. He’s so horrible, he wouldn’t even make the cut in the UFL, let alone the NFL 🤦🏽♂️
He was banged up yes it happens when you're playing with the worst defense year in year out and having to do it all with no defense and no coaching..... this year will be different
Dude has missed 4 games in 4 years. What are you talking about.
Yeah Joe Burrow
He started 62 games and missed 4 where in between that do you find injury prone? 😂 what are you smoking my guy
Mahomes has as many playoff wins as Lamar Allen Burrow Herbert Dak Lawrence and Tua combined….3 more rings along with the MVP….2xLeague MVP’s why is this a debate? He has no rivals either! Here’s one for ya…Raiders all time playoff record 25-20…Chargers are 12-19 Broncos are 23-19….Pat Mahomes is 15-3 in year 7😳 those 3 losses were an away SB vs the Bucs and 2 other losses where he wasn’t able to see the ball in ot which has now changed! HES A FREAK!
This division is fun to watch but let’s be real
KC owns it until Reid & Mahomes call it quiets.
It amazes me how Mahomo is able to run with you hanging on his nuts.
He also has had Andy Reid the whole time.
Do you believe in Joe Hendry?