Thank you all for the positive feedback! Hikarus viewpoint for the final positions is here: ua-cam.com/video/evsT4YHVYK4/v-deo.html and tell me which guests you wanna see next!
It's like a 6 ft 300 lb amateur boxer who is very good. He could destroy regular people, but put him up against Mike Tyson, and it's no contest. The very best in the world are on a whole different level.
As of Nov 2021 there are 8321 fide masters and 7900000000 people living in the world. Which means fide master will beat 99.999999% ppl. This is simplification, but I hope you got the idea.
@@fenderbender2096 I would bet that there are at least a couple dozen if not hundreds (could be thousands. Not exactly a precise guess here) of people who are at a fide master or higher level who have no official rating or title. So, the reality might be more like 99.999998%. Edit: Also, Levy is an IM not an FM. And since GMs are also above IM, the total number of IMs and GMs is more relevant o the question of people Levy can easily beat than the number of FMs is. There are, in total, 5646 IMs and GMs in the world. If we double that number to approximate for unrated people, and divide by the world population, we find that Levy could easily beat ~99.99993% of people. Your calculation was quite far off. It seems that you may have forgotten to multiply by 100 for the percentage.
Remember, the arrows you're seeing is him slowing it down so his hands can keep up. He's probably doing that a few times faster without having to draw the arrows.
i knew Hikaru was amazing with him being ranked #2 and all, but him explaining a position to an international master as if he's talking to a child is insane.
@@dogmania2892Thats why everyone in the chess sphere uses the term "super GM" as an easy way to differentiate people like Hikaru, from the "average" GM. It's basically an "unofficial-new-official-title", haha, above GM that seriously everyone uses. For real though, it should be an official title, and I apologize on behalf of the chess community for how confusing it can be for the uninitiated... ... *sigh* Blame FIDE idk man, chess is still very much stuck in the past. A lot of good progress has been made in the last few years.... but mostly in spite of FIDE, not because of them. Frustrating stuff.
@@Gerraint Whenever we see Hikaru in a chess match or on stream, what we haven't seen is the 80 minutes beforehand he spends screaming in the bathroom and flexing all muscles to turn on super GM mode.
@@christianthomas7591 yeah the point of the statement is the book is for GMs primarily to fight through where Hikaru being a super basically flashed his way through the entire thing
Honestly, as a weaker player I still greatly prefer these puzzles because they feel less like I'm looking for cute tactics, you're just looking for solid lines that don't collapse a few moves down the line in a position that's complicated. (without feeling contrived) I feel like these puzzles forced me to just play better chess and honestly that probably helps improve way more than the sort of puzzles I'm used to doing on lichess or whatever.
@@irreleverent . I tell you what. I play at the 2000-2100 level on lichess (all time controls) with a peak near 2200. I'd say learn the simpler tactical motifs, not these long complicated ones, and spend the rest of your time learning strategy by the great masters of the past like Capablanca. You'll learn so much more because the reality is that even GMs miss this ridiculous tactics in real games. But the ability to piece together your own long term strategy is worth so much more than solving a 3000+ rated puzzles. As proof, as of recently I play a lot of puzzle race on lichess because I find it fun. But I often see 1600-1800 players solving as many tactics as me. I can solve 50-60 tactics per race. But then, if they are as good as me tactically why are they rated as low as 500 points below me? As I said, I think strategy is important but also positional knowledge goes further than the complicated tactics. I learned to do tactics almost void of puzzles per se. I learned to do tactics by replaying combinations from actual games and visualizing the tactics without moving the pieces. I did the same for my own OTB games post analysis. Sometimes the combinations were 8-10 moves deep. I did a lot less tactics than most but I felt that my time was much better spent. I hope this helps whomever reads but I get that everyone has their own preferred strategy for studying chess.
Hey Levy, I recently found out about your channel. I don't even know if you're going to see this or not but your personality and how you explain things is the single reason that made me come back to not only playing chess, but also learning chess theory. Thank you for simply existing and making videos. I wish you great fortune and health.
This still blows my mind. Seeing levy beat three people at once blindfolded with ease, being able to recite whole games back from memory, guessing players elo’s and very quickly analyzing games and just overall all of the crazy shit I see Levy do makes me think it’s hard to be any better than this but yet somehow I’m continuously amazed by Hikaru somehow making Levy look like he has no idea what he’s doing. It’s unfathomable how insanely good some of these guys are at the game of chess and I have so much respect for them all.
This is fantastic! When I was 2200 I was lucky enough to have to 2300+ FM's in my club who would kind of show me what they were thinking in training sessions, and the 100 point rating difference was very clearly visible in the analysis. Realizing what was lacking in my thought processes, I managed to get to their level in the end; I think this kind of "comparing notes" of what you see and what not is really great for improving! - And yes, it's absolutely fascinating what GMHikaru sees!
I find it that I can usually understand GMs plans but they have a habit of consistently finding the best one in a convoluted position that has many possible options where it seems like most normal players (up to IM standard it seems from this video) will look for a more simple and safe line rather then always chaos and high initiative.
@@josephstewart2821 basically their ability to caculate and anaylize ahead dozens of moves from few best lines, also do the same for their opponent best lines, is just unfathomable by normal people.
I thought the same and when Hikaru said c5 looks like a decent move I felt like the smartest person alive lol. My only thought was "Hey lets clear up the diagonal for my bishop"
*Pausing the video with my little brother* brother: "I think a is the best move" me: "A is a good guess, but it wouldn't work for this reason. B is looking a lot better." *Plays the video* Levy: "so obviously a and b are terrible moves, the question is between c, d, e, and f. hmmmm, this is a tough choice..." Hikaru: "well you'd be crazy to consider a, b, c, or d. I can see why someone might be tricked into thinking e or f was a good move, but if you look at every possible board position in 6 moves from now, you'll realize that g is easily the best move."
The positive thing I draw from this is that Hikaru didn't have to calculate that many moves ahead to get the right answer. I'm always thinking you need to be able to calculate about 10 moves to get it right. Main difference between Levi and Hikaru was that Hikaru calculated a move until he found a problem with it, then tried something else. Levi, if he found a problem, kept on trying to fix it.
@@philfrei1 And this is how most of the engine moves are found, the engine needs not only to calculate moves, but it also needs to be able to discard moves quickly, because imagine the engine having to take every legal move into a position, then having to look at all the moves in the position after each one of these moves, and again and again, until it reaches 20 moves deep into it only to discard it at the end anyways, this would slow engines down a lot, so engines eliminate moves until a few moves remain that make sense then look 20 moves deep into these ones and also discarding moves it doesn't need to look into, it really makes engines much faster, but sometimes less accurate because they discard moves they thought were losing, but then you give them more depth and more room to look into wrong moves, and then they find it was winning, chess engines are really fascinating things edit: the 20 move figure i used is with 20 depth, which some people use 18, some people use 30, but it's still the same idea at the end
@@alphag4mer909 yup, there was a game recently where hikaru apparently played a bad move according to engine, because at first it looks really bad and the engine didnt dive that much, but then with enough depth starting from this bad move, it appeared that a clean mate was in sight and the bad move became actually a brillant one
@@ankthares6474 Yeah, it’s insane to me that STILL in 2022, it’s still possible for the top chess players to come up with ideas even the chess bots don’t see.
Hikaru said that this is one of his main strengths as a chess player. He doesn't nessecarily need to do high depth calculations in order to know a position or move is wrong. He has extremely on point intuition, and just gets a feeling a move or position is wrong, whereas Levi needs to do the actual calculations and sometimes still doubts he's messing something. That being said Hikaru still is a beast at fast paced calculations
Good point. I've seen this from expert engineers as well... saying "I don't know..." should not be taken without the understood "but I know a helluva lot more than the rest of you." It can be very cringy when a junior takes the expert's "I don't know" at face value and starts trying to teach the master.
@@diabl2master When you are as good as Hikaru is at chess, he has the right to flex lol. A player below him by levels has to be humble. Levy's a good guy and doesn't need to be told. It's the reason he has a successful chess channel despite not being a super GM.
@@sam9239 I think Levy is too hard on himself. Awhile ago, I had a therapist who pointed out that the best bullies are often ourselves. Treat yourself the way you'd treat a good friend.
I only just found this video 5 months after it's release. And honestly this is one of the best collab ideas I've ever seen. Please do more of these. Having players at various/high levels spell out their thought process is invaluable for someone trying to get better
You guys are legendary, the fact that this is free accessible content makes me cry out of joy. I am going to enjoy this video like it's a work of art. Thanks!
Hikaru is like the kid in class when everyone is doing a test that sets his pen down and walks up to turn it in and then just sits down and waits while everyone else is in question 2
I really, really love Levy's humility, will to learn and appreciation when someone is better than him. People usually try to show off at the drop of a hat and will not miss any opportunity to do so. Levy, on the other hand, highlights the other person's brilliance. That shows you the depth of a person. Make no mistake, IM's are crazy strong. Humility is a virtue very few have. (Also, thank you Hikaru, for doing so much for chess,)
The fact that a great player and one of the greatest players are just making twitch streams/youtube videos teaching chess is so amazing and fascinating
It was really cathartic to see you schooling me getting schooled by hikaru literally at the same time. Like when you infiltrate your older brother's class and he talks about the subject with the teacher. Also massive balls for posting this stay strong king
The simple fact that Levy is humble enough to show us that he is still not at the level of Super GMs makes him absolutely great. Few people can do something like that, specially in chess, were egos are high up. My man.
In order to become an IM, you have faced defeat many, many, MANY times. This forces some form of introspection upon you wether you want it or not. NOW... how you shape that introspection is up to you; insecurity, humility, ego trip or, the one Levy picked, elation.
yo levy, this type of content is so freaking helpful -and its crazier how its free! being able to understand how to rule out pointless moves and variations from the perspective of a grandmaster is so helpful. make more of these, please.
Dude good on you for bringing him on. Super humble of you to do this on your channel to teach us. Great content, although the positions were way above me too
This is one of my favourite videos you've done. It really illustrates the difference between levels of thinking. I've seen a lot of your videos and like you said, you are a damn good chess player. The way Hikaru can just see the best move every time, for both sides, 10 moves deep, in 5 seconds flat is mind boggling.
Holy crap, I have known of you for some time levy, but you have so much more respect from me the way you went about this video, you being amazing at chess but letting someone teach you publicly who has more skill in the field, that takes balls and shows your still humble. Kudos mate.
How the fuck are you bombing us mortals with so many good videos? Every day just video after video, and they are good. Real good. And you are full of energy. Gosh... Thank you, man.
10:38 Hikaru: "How's it going?" Levy rubs head: "Umm..." Hikaru smiles thinking: "Don't worry, son. You'll get it someday. I'm just proud of your effort."
Man I've watched a ton of your videos and I've just now found this one. I love this training session. Really helps getting into you guys' minds and various views and takes on the positions. Muy muy excelente!
This was fairly interesting. I've often wondered why a 2500 GM couldn't at least draw with today's Top 10, and this shows me why, because even though a 2500 Level GM is 100 points ahead of the IM, it's not enough. Nakamura was just seeing practically everything, including move orders. It's got to be a whole different world from 2600 on up.
I've played against both and what I find is that up to 2500 players tend to be extremely accurate, know pretty much every common tactic and positional structures so are always one step ahead of anyone below them. Beyond that (2600+) seems to be a case of the players being extremely creative and able to come up with such awesome initiatives and novel tactics that even the guy who knows all the simple tricks will be getting outfoxed by the new ideas thrown at him. I don't think it's impossible for 2500s to draw with 2700s though, the 2700s largely maintain those high ratings by deliberately avoiding playing people 200+ points below them who would just certainly steal points away if they had to face them regularly.
I feel the urge to pay you for this for how insightful this was. The two pronged verbal analysis was a lot more fun than any book Ive read. Keep up the good work :D
Reading the comments and, this one just hurts. It hurts friend. It's you're. I have to grammar police this because you did it twice in this one comment. You are awesome. you are putting out. It's you're. Ty. Best of luck to you.
@@danielsmith5032 In the movie Shrek, Shrek uses an analogy to describe the complexity of ogres. He says : " ogres are like onions" At which point the donkey try to guess why but gets it wrong in hilarious ways. Then Shrek with a sigh explains that like onions, ogres have layers. The joke here is that instead of saying, chess has different layers so it's like an onion, the writer directly jumps one level of analogy to go to ogres, thus making it absolutely impossible to understand for anybody who has not seen or doesn't remember the movie, such as yourself ;)
Levy and Hikaru together is content gold! Levy is brilliant but it’s great to see him taking his game to the next level with Hikaru’s honest mentoring!
It was interesting, a lot of Hikaru's decisions are initially just intuition and based on his 'feel/experience', he then goes into the real calculation after that. Its not just raw processing power.
Pattern recognition. Chess pros say quite often that the biggest skill in chess they have is pattern recognition. It seems almost magical to amateurs/beginners because we haven't trained our brains to "see" the board and pieces that way.
Levy, great stuff. This is BY FAR my favorite of all your videos. This 2300 (USCF) player felt like a club player after Hikaru began his analysis. Keep up the AMAZING work.
This video is pure GOLD, just what I needed. I like your other vids (guess the elo for the memes and historic games are quite educational), but this step by step thought process of stronger players gave me a lot to think about. Please consider making it into some sort of series.
I'd love to see more of this style. Whether you grab more GM's, get some IM's, or even some pogchamps competitors like Ludwig, Charlie or NorthernLion. This is interesting and fun to watch. Love you man, and happy to see you happy
It'd actually be really cool to see a comparison between an IM and someone around 1500-1800 with thought patterns I can actually follow in their entirety.
Not a dig on you at all: A real man can comfortably bring into his own realm another with more skill, experience, or luck and still remain gracious, humble, and confident. I truly admire you, Levy, for yet another reason. I loved this and hope you do a lot more of this with many people. It would also make for an interesting video to bring in someone with a lower rating--or even simply a subscriber--to do this same thing with you. I'm learning a lot man, thank you. Keep it up. You're kicking ass
I think the major take homes are the 1 “spirit of the position“ .... 2 the willing to sacrifice material for an attacking position. And 3. the willingness to consider even more possibilities than we were considering initially on most positions and to go further with unlikely moves initially discounted.
This is amazing and depressing at the same time. You know when you think you've learnt a new language quite well then you visit the country and literally understand nothing, then just sit quietly and repeating the local "thank you" if anyone says anything to you 😂
More of these please :-) This is a great concept. I'd even like a vid with just 1 or 2 positions but both spending 10-15 mins or so to fully try and work it out. Also potentially bringing in a 2200 player also to see 3 levels of thought on the same position. Keep up the good work :-)
Probably one of the most useful content I’ve seen in a while. Especially so when Hikaru reminds the questions you need to ask yourself to fully comprehend the positions
Thank you all for the positive feedback! Hikarus viewpoint for the final positions is here: ua-cam.com/video/evsT4YHVYK4/v-deo.html and tell me which guests you wanna see next!
yes
I mean, you can invite whomever's available ig
yo gotham hows life
Aman, definitely
Anish will be an interesting guest
Levy, hit me up if you need a hand taking on Hikaru on an even footing, our combined 2800 elo should be a match for him.
Honestly best comment I have ever seen
best. comment. ever. CHANGE MY MIND
@@liodoesmc1298 your comment :)
@@ryukyoutubes ty
Ahhh come on. It would be atleast 2850
me looking at a puzzle for 2 minutes, trying to move a piece
*realising i'm in check*
why do I relate so much
@@aryabhoola Because you are soooo not alone.
LMAO yes
That's me
😂😂😂😂😂
Hikaru: explains the move
Levy's head: _"just smile, nod and pray it wasn't a question"_
Hahaha sounds like me when my boss facilitates a meeting.
Just smile and nod along-Eula Lawrence.
Hahaha
How do u write in italics?
_Great question_
Interesting to see how a 2400 IM appears to be terrible at chess when he'd smack down 99% of the population. Hikaru is just in a different tier.
Maybe 99,99%
With what you said, it means he wouldnt be able to smack down every 100th person
It's like a 6 ft 300 lb amateur boxer who is very good. He could destroy regular people, but put him up against Mike Tyson, and it's no contest. The very best in the world are on a whole different level.
As of Nov 2021 there are 8321 fide masters and 7900000000 people living in the world. Which means fide master will beat 99.999999% ppl. This is simplification, but I hope you got the idea.
@@fenderbender2096 I would bet that there are at least a couple dozen if not hundreds (could be thousands. Not exactly a precise guess here) of people who are at a fide master or higher level who have no official rating or title. So, the reality might be more like 99.999998%.
Edit: Also, Levy is an IM not an FM. And since GMs are also above IM, the total number of IMs and GMs is more relevant o the question of people Levy can easily beat than the number of FMs is. There are, in total, 5646 IMs and GMs in the world. If we double that number to approximate for unrated people, and divide by the world population, we find that Levy could easily beat ~99.99993% of people. Your calculation was quite far off. It seems that you may have forgotten to multiply by 100 for the percentage.
I bet the 2400 IM could beat at least 3% of the worlds population in chess.
See how we are all correct with these % arguments.
"3 words and I'm yours."
Hikaru: Triple fork spotted.
*e n e m y s p o t t e d*
@@RonWolfHowl Lmao
I've always preferred the term "family fork".
@@Diachron *Always has been*
Backrank Checkmate spotted
This is the equivalent of Gotham holding the flashlight while Hikaru fixes the car 😂
lmfao, that's so freaking cold.
Well but maybe his ancestors invented the first light bulb🙄 lol
👏👏👏👏comment of the year!!👍👍
More like Gotham holding the spotlight and Hikaru saving the day
@@TTharvest Oga mi, Weldone Sir.
Just imagine how many things happen at Hikarus´s head when he is in a tournament completely tryharding and he spends 20+ minutes in a position.
99999999 lines deep
So many arrows in his head...
The guy calculating every single move available for the next 5 turns
He just goes: *Takes* *Takes* *Takes* *Takes* *Takes* *Takes* .....
Remember, the arrows you're seeing is him slowing it down so his hands can keep up. He's probably doing that a few times faster without having to draw the arrows.
i knew Hikaru was amazing with him being ranked #2 and all, but him explaining a position to an international master as if he's talking to a child is insane.
fr fr, the gap in skill between them is insane despite hikaru only being one rank higher than him.
@@dogmania2892Thats why everyone in the chess sphere uses the term "super GM" as an easy way to differentiate people like Hikaru, from the "average" GM. It's basically an "unofficial-new-official-title", haha, above GM that seriously everyone uses. For real though, it should be an official title, and I apologize on behalf of the chess community for how confusing it can be for the uninitiated...
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*sigh* Blame FIDE idk man, chess is still very much stuck in the past. A lot of good progress has been made in the last few years.... but mostly in spite of FIDE, not because of them. Frustrating stuff.
repent to God Christ
The skill gap is same as between 1k player and Gotham pretty much.
@@Baggerz182 I don't need imaginary fire insurance, thank you.
Author of the book: “Grandmasters cried solving these.”
Hikaru: “It’s come to my attention that you don’t know who I am.”
Definitely shows the difference between GM and super GM 😂
Hikaru: But Grandmaster is only my base form.. And This. Is. SUPER GM! *screams for 5 episode*
@@Gerraint Whenever we see Hikaru in a chess match or on stream, what we haven't seen is the 80 minutes beforehand he spends screaming in the bathroom and flexing all muscles to turn on super GM mode.
The title didn't account for super gms...
@@christianthomas7591 yeah the point of the statement is the book is for GMs primarily to fight through where Hikaru being a super basically flashed his way through the entire thing
noob puzzle: find the winning line
GM puzzle: find the line that holds 0.0
lmao word
facts
Yeah, its pretty ridiculous.
Honestly, as a weaker player I still greatly prefer these puzzles because they feel less like I'm looking for cute tactics, you're just looking for solid lines that don't collapse a few moves down the line in a position that's complicated. (without feeling contrived) I feel like these puzzles forced me to just play better chess and honestly that probably helps improve way more than the sort of puzzles I'm used to doing on lichess or whatever.
@@irreleverent . I tell you what. I play at the 2000-2100 level on lichess (all time controls) with a peak near 2200. I'd say learn the simpler tactical motifs, not these long complicated ones, and spend the rest of your time learning strategy by the great masters of the past like Capablanca. You'll learn so much more because the reality is that even GMs miss this ridiculous tactics in real games. But the ability to piece together your own long term strategy is worth so much more than solving a 3000+ rated puzzles.
As proof, as of recently I play a lot of puzzle race on lichess because I find it fun. But I often see 1600-1800 players solving as many tactics as me. I can solve 50-60 tactics per race. But then, if they are as good as me tactically why are they rated as low as 500 points below me? As I said, I think strategy is important but also positional knowledge goes further than the complicated tactics. I learned to do tactics almost void of puzzles per se. I learned to do tactics by replaying combinations from actual games and visualizing the tactics without moving the pieces. I did the same for my own OTB games post analysis. Sometimes the combinations were 8-10 moves deep. I did a lot less tactics than most but I felt that my time was much better spent.
I hope this helps whomever reads but I get that everyone has their own preferred strategy for studying chess.
Plot twist: Levy is doing these "challenges" with GMs to try to trick them into training him for his return to competitive chess later this year
Thinking the same
lol, imagine this was a 5 year plan, get big on youtube, collab with super gms, get back to competitive, get into top 10.
Yeeah but it literally says “training with hikaru” so not much of a twist.
@@o1-preview this would be an actual plot twist.
Bottom right corner: Training with Hikaru
Sometimes the best secrets are kept in plain view
Levi: see 4 moves ahead.
Hikaru: see 10 moves ahead.
Me: Let me sac my queen first.
I didn’t know my queen was under attack
@hunterham9414😂😂😂😂
Literally me a few minutes ago, got a brilliant on a bishop sac then blundered by taking with the wrong rook 😭
Hey Levy, I recently found out about your channel. I don't even know if you're going to see this or not but your personality and how you explain things is the single reason that made me come back to not only playing chess, but also learning chess theory. Thank you for simply existing and making videos.
I wish you great fortune and health.
❤️
Nice
Nice
I’m so happy the pinned comment is a positive one
Pinning good comments now
"I'm trying not to flex" - man who is definitely flexing
He is not flexing. He is just being Hikaru, operating in a different dimension.
Not trying to flex but the OBVIOUS move... lol
Hikaru does it a lot. I consider it like a child with huge interest on finding new things. Genuine joy more than intentional flexing.
@@Pullapelle if you dont think hikaru doesnt like to flex your crazy haha
He's not TRYING to flex, he just does it naturally
This still blows my mind. Seeing levy beat three people at once blindfolded with ease, being able to recite whole games back from memory, guessing players elo’s and very quickly analyzing games and just overall all of the crazy shit I see Levy do makes me think it’s hard to be any better than this but yet somehow I’m continuously amazed by Hikaru somehow making Levy look like he has no idea what he’s doing. It’s unfathomable how insanely good some of these guys are at the game of chess and I have so much respect for them all.
And hikaru has no idea how to beat magnus.
@@noerhidayat8195 And Magnus has no idea how to beat young Misha
@@tdb517 really?
@@noerhidayat8195 Of course. Young Misha could have easily crushed Karpov but let him win so he wouldn't start crying like a baby.
@@noerhidayat8195 And then Wesley So or Dubov have a great day and Carlsen loses 4 games straight.
This is fantastic! When I was 2200 I was lucky enough to have to 2300+ FM's in my club who would kind of show me what they were thinking in training sessions, and the 100 point rating difference was very clearly visible in the analysis. Realizing what was lacking in my thought processes, I managed to get to their level in the end; I think this kind of "comparing notes" of what you see and what not is really great for improving! - And yes, it's absolutely fascinating what GMHikaru sees!
I find it that I can usually understand GMs plans but they have a habit of consistently finding the best one in a convoluted position that has many possible options where it seems like most normal players (up to IM standard it seems from this video) will look for a more simple and safe line rather then always chaos and high initiative.
@@josephstewart2821 basically their ability to caculate and anaylize ahead dozens of moves from few best lines, also do the same for their opponent best lines, is just unfathomable by normal people.
I’m 2400, that makes me a superior person than you.
@@GardenGuy1942 I was talking about this comment. :)
@@gudguy866 Same.. Why don't I have my own wiki page when I'm already 580 😆
I'm 900 and though c5 looked decent, I expect my GM title within 3 to 4 business days. See you in the finals Hikaru
I would suggest you to go straight to the world championship
🤣🤣
I thought the same and when Hikaru said c5 looks like a decent move I felt like the smartest person alive lol. My only thought was "Hey lets clear up the diagonal for my bishop"
But I also blunder my queen at move 5 alot so...
Godspeed sir!
Me pausing the video: I think I see the move
Levy and Hikaru: that is the dumbest move you could possibly come up with
*Pausing the video with my little brother*
brother: "I think a is the best move"
me: "A is a good guess, but it wouldn't work for this reason. B is looking a lot better."
*Plays the video*
Levy: "so obviously a and b are terrible moves, the question is between c, d, e, and f. hmmmm, this is a tough choice..."
Hikaru: "well you'd be crazy to consider a, b, c, or d. I can see why someone might be tricked into thinking e or f was a good move, but if you look at every possible board position in 6 moves from now, you'll realize that g is easily the best move."
lmao. im dead
Lol
levy rozman wakes up each day and chooses to make the world a better place
And then actually does it.
@@Mainscout watch him solve poverty and global warming next year 🙏
@@noodle06317 just use communism
@@thebus3181 XD, it works 0 times out of 10 but let's try 🙏
@@Carlos-iq4th that is the best part about it
The positive thing I draw from this is that Hikaru didn't have to calculate that many moves ahead to get the right answer. I'm always thinking you need to be able to calculate about 10 moves to get it right. Main difference between Levi and Hikaru was that Hikaru calculated a move until he found a problem with it, then tried something else. Levi, if he found a problem, kept on trying to fix it.
This seems to me to be a key insight. Being able to prune the decision tree quickly and correctly is a huge plus.
@@philfrei1 And this is how most of the engine moves are found, the engine needs not only to calculate moves, but it also needs to be able to discard moves quickly, because imagine the engine having to take every legal move into a position, then having to look at all the moves in the position after each one of these moves, and again and again, until it reaches 20 moves deep into it only to discard it at the end anyways, this would slow engines down a lot, so engines eliminate moves until a few moves remain that make sense then look 20 moves deep into these ones and also discarding moves it doesn't need to look into, it really makes engines much faster, but sometimes less accurate because they discard moves they thought were losing, but then you give them more depth and more room to look into wrong moves, and then they find it was winning, chess engines are really fascinating things
edit: the 20 move figure i used is with 20 depth, which some people use 18, some people use 30, but it's still the same idea at the end
@@alphag4mer909 yup, there was a game recently where hikaru apparently played a bad move according to engine, because at first it looks really bad and the engine didnt dive that much, but then with enough depth starting from this bad move, it appeared that a clean mate was in sight and the bad move became actually a brillant one
@@ankthares6474 Yeah, it’s insane to me that STILL in 2022, it’s still possible for the top chess players to come up with ideas even the chess bots don’t see.
Hikaru said that this is one of his main strengths as a chess player. He doesn't nessecarily need to do high depth calculations in order to know a position or move is wrong. He has extremely on point intuition, and just gets a feeling a move or position is wrong, whereas Levi needs to do the actual calculations and sometimes still doubts he's messing something. That being said Hikaru still is a beast at fast paced calculations
Hikaru: "I'm not sure if my calculations are correct"
Levy: "That is... the top engine line"
LOL!!!!
@@mohamedbelhadj3107 yup. Shows how much we progressed at chess.
@@Replis Or at least how much Hikaru has progressed.
@@b.t4604 In Soviet Russia, it is _we._
@@davidsandrock7826
In Russia, chess progressed at us.
@@FaranAiki in russia king checkmates you 😳
Looks like a dad playing Chess with his son.
Prodigies such as myself can't relate ;(
Isn't the GM's like 11 so more like son playing with his dad :-P
@@seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255 he went to get milk for biscuits and sausage gravy 3 years ago mom, where did he go?
@@seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255 prodigy, ur like 1 rated if you actually were people would know but we don’t so shut
@@Njadmessi Ok.
the fact that he can discard all the senseless moves to go deeper into the best lines without overlooking anything is just awesome
Indeed
You sound like a high rated player. Somewhere near 2200. Can I know it?
Could you pls give an example?
Great observation on how he gets deeper into the best lines, and so quickly
@@senconian i think it comes from experience and very careful observation. Also it’s really amazing to see the speed of how they analyze the game.
When Hikaru says "I don't know" ...
That means he knows at least 10 variations of moves with atleast 10 moves deep ...
Insane
suprising that this has no replies
Surprising it has 2 replies
Always says idk, then dominates
Good point. I've seen this from expert engineers as well... saying "I don't know..." should not be taken without the understood "but I know a helluva lot more than the rest of you." It can be very cringy when a junior takes the expert's "I don't know" at face value and starts trying to teach the master.
@@friendlyplayer92 4
While Gotham was Calculating the wrong move lines - Hikaro was calculating if there was a better move than the book suggested.
Basically lol
Hilarious. I love Gotham. He isn’t bothered about looking stupid.
Underrated comment i'm dead
@@segunpeters6201 That's essential to getting better. Some people can't take the ego beating involved in that.
I mean, yeah. Not always will the best engine line be the "best".
Levy this is gold. It may be hard to take for one's ego to be corrected all the time but humility is a virtue imo. Props to you for this.
Can you please tell Hikaru that humility is a virtue?
@@diabl2master lmao dude just not care and he’s right most of the time anyway xD
@@hiiiiiiii.-. He literally doesn't care
@@diabl2master When you are as good as Hikaru is at chess, he has the right to flex lol. A player below him by levels has to be humble. Levy's a good guy and doesn't need to be told. It's the reason he has a successful chess channel despite not being a super GM.
@@sam9239
I think Levy is too hard on himself. Awhile ago, I had a therapist who pointed out that the best bullies are often ourselves. Treat yourself the way you'd treat a good friend.
Having a GM teaching a IM advanced chess on video is aweasome. WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!
It's not a new concept, the chessdojo channel have a few of such videos
@@arasvardanyan3708 I had no idea, I will check chessdojo then
@@fcolecumberri you are so cute :3
@@karolanbadziowan6315 Am I?
@@fcolecumberri yes :)
I only just found this video 5 months after it's release. And honestly this is one of the best collab ideas I've ever seen. Please do more of these. Having players at various/high levels spell out their thought process is invaluable for someone trying to get better
You know one of these days I should start trying to improve my rating instead of just watching youtube and pretending I’m actually good at chess
Go for it
Know the feeling
@@James-qh1fv nice
@@James-qh1fv I'm amazed that you had 12 hours available for chess training each day
@@professionalprocrastinator8103 maybe they meant 1-2 hours
Hikaru: " Im not trying to flex"
Hikaru after a millisecond: "But I immediately get the right answer"
Bruh 160 likes and 1 comment
@@jennifermeech4006 438 likes and only two comments
@@jennifermeech4006 noone cares bro
Some of the best bragging I've ever witnessed lol
Plot twist: Hikaru read the book last week.
ha lol
Plot twist: Hikaru wrote the book
plot twist: hes reading the book during the video
Plot twist: the book is on his ceiling
Plot twist: he has the whole book fucking memorized
You guys are legendary, the fact that this is free accessible content makes me cry out of joy. I am going to enjoy this video like it's a work of art. Thanks!
Np
@@quentinAxe :)
21:35 Levy looked at the ceiling for 0.1 second. He is becoming a GM.
gm norm in the summer confirmed?
He's beginning to believe
he probably saw a spider
@@AltairCreedZ 😂😂😂😂
@@AltairCreedZ lmao
I cried trying to solve these too. I'll email FIDE to get my GM title.
@aditya Here, take my like.
@@greeneyes-_- the grammar guru 🧞
I just wanted to give a like.
I cried too.
YAAAAAAY you solved a puzzle! congrats. now beat levy
Hikaru is like the kid in class when everyone is doing a test that sets his pen down and walks up to turn it in and then just sits down and waits while everyone else is in question 2
He's the kid in school that all of his erasers
@@leskobrandon8454 I think you a word.
What does this comment and the replies even mean
@@Noname-67 it
18:49 "That's... the top engine line"
levy hates his life as hikaru says 'yea i just discounted this whole idea after about 10 seconds'
I can do the math... the difference is 400 ELO. But what good is 400 ELO when you've slain Voldemort?
This was so dumb I laughed
Hahahaha, i thought that too🤣🤣🤣🤣. Harry Potter playing professional chess
😭😭😭 im crying
I like this comment so much
I wanted to like your comment, but it's at 400 and I don't plan on ruining it.
"Grandmasters cried solving these"
UA-cam clickbait is invading books!
Subtitle: (Super GMs solve them in 2-3 minutes tops)
Headlines were the original clickbait.
@@12jswilson well there's GMs and then there's GMs. pretty sure not all GMs would be able to snap solve these positions like Hikaru did.
well that's why they always say don't judge a book by its cover (and title). Ig its yt system thats copying this idea through 'clickbait' thumbnails
I really, really love Levy's humility, will to learn and appreciation when someone is better than him. People usually try to show off at the drop of a hat and will not miss any opportunity to do so. Levy, on the other hand, highlights the other person's brilliance. That shows you the depth of a person.
Make no mistake, IM's are crazy strong. Humility is a virtue very few have. (Also, thank you Hikaru, for doing so much for chess,)
Well chess humbles you doesn't it
Meanwhile Levy at the end: "I'm a *damn good* chess player"
I'm just kidding, he has the right to say that
i love this
I was gonna comment this L
Here before this comment pops off cause verified
Bro stop following me it’s almost scary now
What's up checkmark
pog! love your vids, surprising to see you here
The fact that a great player and one of the greatest players are just making twitch streams/youtube videos teaching chess is so amazing and fascinating
Hikaru teaches Gotham chess, while Gotham teaches Hikaru how to understand the memes
Hikaru teaches GothamChess chess
This is the character arc the chess world needs.
@Troll Slayers please!
the latter is im-possible
It was really cathartic to see you schooling me getting schooled by hikaru literally at the same time. Like when you infiltrate your older brother's class and he talks about the subject with the teacher.
Also massive balls for posting this stay strong king
dude, Levy is just killing lately with his content. what the hell. Glad to be here!
The simple fact that Levy is humble enough to show us that he is still not at the level of Super GMs makes him absolutely great. Few people can do something like that, specially in chess, were egos are high up. My man.
It's not being humble. He's just objective
The more you learn the more you realize how stupid you are.
Curse of knowledge.
In order to become an IM, you have faced defeat many, many, MANY times. This forces some form of introspection upon you wether you want it or not. NOW... how you shape that introspection is up to you; insecurity, humility, ego trip or, the one Levy picked, elation.
@@chillax9184 humility and objectivity aren’t mutually exclusive
i don’t think it’s being humble to admit you’re not at the level of one of the best chess players who has ever lived lol
Anyone else absolutely just loves the format of this? This is amazing.
levy's humility even tho he's a total boss and can beat 99% of people out there really helps
sorry. 99.99%
@@petegeorgopoulos7708 Also give credit to Hikaru for being so willing to collab with people online and giving all of us a gleam of genius.
yo levy, this type of content is so freaking helpful -and its crazier how its free!
being able to understand how to rule out pointless moves and variations from the perspective of a grandmaster is so helpful. make more of these, please.
Hmm next video do 2800 Grandmaster vs 900 Brady
Why would we do that? Obviously the 900 is better
@@thebus3181 better on making dumb decission
But the 900, without knowing how or why, gets every single move correct.
Lmao
@@thebus3181 we need to learn from the hero's themselves
3:52 watch levy slowly fading his smile after hikaru said “i have a completely different idea’ ahahahahahahhahhaha
Lol 😂
Hello darkness my old friend
That actually makes me sad
9:57 They literally said "really strong looking" at the same time without even knowing lol.
wtf :o
:O
:0
oh wow
Wow
Dude good on you for bringing him on. Super humble of you to do this on your channel to teach us. Great content, although the positions were way above me too
Levy is a good teacher, but it is cool to see him humble himself and become a student alongside the rest of us.
This is one of my favourite videos you've done. It really illustrates the difference between levels of thinking. I've seen a lot of your videos and like you said, you are a damn good chess player. The way Hikaru can just see the best move every time, for both sides, 10 moves deep, in 5 seconds flat is mind boggling.
Holy crap, I have known of you for some time levy, but you have so much more respect from me the way you went about this video, you being amazing at chess but letting someone teach you publicly who has more skill in the field, that takes balls and shows your still humble. Kudos mate.
Day 5 of telling levy that I appreciate him saying I'm worth more than a knight
Day 1 of agreeing with this guy
Day 1 of agreeing with the guy that agrees with the comment
Day 1 of disagreeing with these noobs
And if you apply yourself someday you may even surpass a rook
Day 1 of agreeing with the guy who agrees with the guy who agrees with the comment
so this is the older sibling levy always talks about
Me:tries to solve position 3 and thinks I have a decent line
* unpauses video *
Levy: yours queens hanging. Don’t hang a queen.
Me: O.O
Yep, I did the same 🤣
So bad loool
Yep my queen died.
The
This was absolutely amazing idea for a video. It really shows the level between great players and out this world players.
How the fuck are you bombing us mortals with so many good videos? Every day just video after video, and they are good. Real good. And you are full of energy. Gosh... Thank you, man.
10:38
Hikaru: "How's it going?"
Levy rubs head: "Umm..."
Hikaru smiles thinking: "Don't worry, son. You'll get it someday. I'm just proud of your effort."
That one dislike is that one 700 player who doesn't understand anything and is disappointed.
Bruh
I'm 700
I'm 250 and still like this content lol
@@juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454 Ehhe noob ew
Jkjk we just need to keep learning and one day we'll be worth more than a knight
I'm 700 and love his content lol
if i take blue buff.. i raise my elo around 500.. double buff and it is up 1000... right ling?
Man I've watched a ton of your videos and I've just now found this one. I love this training session. Really helps getting into you guys' minds and various views and takes on the positions. Muy muy excelente!
‘Hikaru can teach me something’ well that makes one of us Levy, that makes one...
Gotham is the only youtuber that puts out long videos I actually watch. Much love my guy
30 minutes is not a long video though imo.
The only youtuber to put videos of him looking stupid(not really stupid but lower than his opponent) that is some humble stuff
Levi Exist
Sleep: We don't do that here
This comment was made by the european gang
Colon : Exits
This guy : We don't do that here
True
2 am here in germany
@@jugrajkang4532 My friend: First time?
This was fairly interesting. I've often wondered why a 2500 GM couldn't at least draw with today's Top 10, and this shows me why, because even though a 2500 Level GM is 100 points ahead of the IM, it's not enough. Nakamura was just seeing practically everything, including move orders. It's got to be a whole different world from 2600 on up.
I've played against both and what I find is that up to 2500 players tend to be extremely accurate, know pretty much every common tactic and positional structures so are always one step ahead of anyone below them. Beyond that (2600+) seems to be a case of the players being extremely creative and able to come up with such awesome initiatives and novel tactics that even the guy who knows all the simple tricks will be getting outfoxed by the new ideas thrown at him. I don't think it's impossible for 2500s to draw with 2700s though, the 2700s largely maintain those high ratings by deliberately avoiding playing people 200+ points below them who would just certainly steal points away if they had to face them regularly.
@@josephstewart2821 Interesting insights.
@@josephstewart2821because I’m sure you’re a top 10 in the world and you’ve played soo many GMs
@@josephstewart2821 and we have Carlsen who eat 2700 for breakfast in most of his career😅
@@imnotpurestr He even won some matches against top 10 players. 😂😂
I feel the urge to pay you for this for how insightful this was. The two pronged verbal analysis was a lot more fun than any book Ive read. Keep up the good work :D
Bro, this is gold, it's super interesting to see and analyse the difference between the 2 players process of thinking
levy: makes an idea in 10 minutes and still confuse
Hikaru that ended In 1 minute and is listening electro swing or talking with the chat:
XD
And the crazy thing is there’s only 3000 IMs in the world. Which means he’s in the top 0.00001 percent of chess players. The skill gap is ridiculous
Yeah the super gm are just insanely superb
Hikaru: I’m trying not to flex
Also Hikaru: 💪🏼
hahahahha
Levy sounds like me during an exam. "I have no idea, even after 5 mins"
xd
Can we all just tell Levy that he is worth more than a Knight, your awesome brother thanks for all the content your putting out it’s much appreciated
Reading the comments and, this one just hurts. It hurts friend. It's you're. I have to grammar police this because you did it twice in this one comment. You are awesome. you are putting out. It's you're. Ty. Best of luck to you.
@Yaseen _ you're worth more than a king
@@PhirstPlays you’re worth more than a knight friend thank you so much for correcting me don’t know what I would do without you
@@danielr1384 Bahahahaha, It is all in good fun. I left you a sub. Best of luck, seriously.
wow levys awesome brother is a knight? this is incredible thanks for the information
Nevermind how fast they think, how tf do they move and click the mouse that fast and that accurately omg
Closet Black Ops pros?
Playing osu
Well I mean as a chess player, when I play online i just click and hover fast from experience but I also play fps shooter games like Valorant
high dpi mouse.
You should watch some Shroud content...
19.03.2024 after seeing Gotham shorts from a video nearly 3 years ago
Levi: "There's levels to this game."
me: "Ahh, so chess is like an ogre."
Like an ogre? A man-eating giant like a troll or like Shrek? Or were you trying to make a joke?
Chess is an onion. Not a parfait!
@@danielsmith5032 straight over your head
@@SweetBrazyN I'm not seeing the joke AT ALL at all
@@danielsmith5032
In the movie Shrek, Shrek uses an analogy to describe the complexity of ogres.
He says : " ogres are like onions" At which point the donkey try to guess why but gets it wrong in hilarious ways. Then Shrek with a sigh explains that like onions, ogres have layers.
The joke here is that instead of saying, chess has different layers so it's like an onion, the writer directly jumps one level of analogy to go to ogres, thus making it absolutely impossible to understand for anybody who has not seen or doesn't remember the movie, such as yourself ;)
half an hour of hikaru flexing on us plebs
Clickbait alternative title: "Hikaru dominates Levy in four different positions"
😳
@@victoryender2284 😏
LOL 😂
It was a great one.
Well done Levy, that is a great idea - asking Hikaru to partner with you on a training programme. Brilliant move!!!
Levy and Hikaru together is content gold! Levy is brilliant but it’s great to see him taking his game to the next level with Hikaru’s honest mentoring!
It was interesting, a lot of Hikaru's decisions are initially just intuition and based on his 'feel/experience', he then goes into the real calculation after that. Its not just raw processing power.
Pattern recognition. Chess pros say quite often that the biggest skill in chess they have is pattern recognition.
It seems almost magical to amateurs/beginners because we haven't trained our brains to "see" the board and pieces that way.
Yes, he just seems to know what the best moves are. He is a chess jedi.
I think Mangus Carlsen one said that he usually instinctually knows the right move and then spends 10 minutes calculating if his instinct was correct
Hikaru is like Levy's dad teaching him the ways of the Super GM. Very wholesome.
Hope this helps him in the coming OTB tournament
Levy, great stuff. This is BY FAR my favorite of all your videos. This 2300 (USCF) player felt like a club player after Hikaru began his analysis. Keep up the AMAZING work.
This video is pure GOLD, just what I needed. I like your other vids (guess the elo for the memes and historic games are quite educational), but this step by step thought process of stronger players gave me a lot to think about. Please consider making it into some sort of series.
I'd love to see more of this style. Whether you grab more GM's, get some IM's, or even some pogchamps competitors like Ludwig, Charlie or NorthernLion. This is interesting and fun to watch.
Love you man, and happy to see you happy
It'd actually be really cool to see a comparison between an IM and someone around 1500-1800 with thought patterns I can actually follow in their entirety.
I don't only improve my chess play but also my English skills with watching these high quality clips twice a day, that's brilliant
Not a dig on you at all: A real man can comfortably bring into his own realm another with more skill, experience, or luck and still remain gracious, humble, and confident. I truly admire you, Levy, for yet another reason.
I loved this and hope you do a lot more of this with many people. It would also make for an interesting video to bring in someone with a lower rating--or even simply a subscriber--to do this same thing with you.
I'm learning a lot man, thank you. Keep it up. You're kicking ass
I think the major take homes are the 1 “spirit of the position“ .... 2 the willing to sacrifice material for an attacking position. And 3. the willingness to consider even more possibilities than we were considering initially on most positions and to go further with unlikely moves initially discounted.
Very insightful
I love watching true experts explain their processes. I could watch ten more hours of this format even if i have no hope of solving the problem.
saw this live, but the hikaru perspective definitely adds more value. good luck for Vegas, ma man!
The difference is 400 elo points.
😂😂😂
Every day, Levy makes 25hrs of content.
This is amazing and depressing at the same time. You know when you think you've learnt a new language quite well then you visit the country and literally understand nothing, then just sit quietly and repeating the local "thank you" if anyone says anything to you 😂
11:30 "im trying not to flex" proceeds to flex
IM: "In the book they didn't move the Bishop"
GM: "But it's the best move though right?"
IM: "Yeah..."
GM: "Of course!"
The man is a machine.
Dude...on that 1st puzzle, I chose the same move as the GM. I am a certified GENIUS now.
This video is just outstanding. Having you and Hikaru sharing your thought processes is invaluable to us, mere mortals. Thank you!
More of these please :-) This is a great concept. I'd even like a vid with just 1 or 2 positions but both spending 10-15 mins or so to fully try and work it out. Also potentially bringing in a 2200 player also to see 3 levels of thought on the same position. Keep up the good work :-)
30:53 "It's like training with just an absolute top of the line chess pro." hmmm, i wonder why it feels like that...
hm
hmm
He should train with some chess pros to show what thats like.
Probably one of the most useful content I’ve seen in a while. Especially so when Hikaru reminds the questions you need to ask yourself to fully comprehend the positions