Hope everyone enjoyed the Prime Single Stack Review. I personally feel this is a game changer for a home gym, so if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to drop me a comment. As always, don't forget to hit that LIKE button if you enjoyed this video and hit that SUBSCRIBE button so you don't miss any future videos!!! Hope you all are having a great day! ****Important note from Prime Fitness at the time of this video**** “All Prodigy Racks and Single Stacks moving forward will include 4-way hole spacing and laser cut numbers marking height adjustment options for attachments”
I looked at that one as well, unfortunately my ceiling height wasn't tall enough and if it was, I might have killed myself getting that thing downstairs.
It's not expensive for what you get. Rogue has thier column for about the same price minus the top pulley. Is that front column new or special order? On the web site it shows holes on the front side but not the sides. Great video bro!
Yeah price is comparable with Rogue for sure. The front column is new, they did a rolling upgrade where there is 4 way holes in the front column and laser cut numbers as well.
I’m going in. The only problem I’m having deciding is to go with the plate loaded. Or the selectorized 1/4. If I go the selectorized route I can always just get a pin to add more weight right? I think the 1:4 will be much smoother and I can use a sled harness on it.
Selectorized is 2:1 ratio for the adjustable pulley and 1:1 with high pulley. I love the idea of being able to switch ratios with the plate loaded (4:1 or 2:1)but I workout w the gf and there is a big strength curve and she doesn’t like to load weight or unload 😂 so the selectorized won. And yes, you can add weight with a pin.
Hey Ben, I just received a message from Mike at Prime Fitness. All Prodigy Racks and Single Stacks moving forward will include 4-way hole spacing and laser cut numbers marking height adjustment options for attachments. Hope this helped.
Hey brother, many thanks for the video! What is the warranty for this unit? If I'm paying a premium for a product, it should have a lifetime warranty IMO..
No lifetime warranty unfortunately just a limited warranty and I agree man it should!! - 10 year warranty- structural frame breaks and weight stack plates -5 year warranty structural moving parts -1 year warranty linear bearings, grips, belts and cables -90 day warranty upholstery, gas shocks, popper pins, and accessories
@@GoreckiFit I appreciate the quick reply! However, that's unfortunate to hear. Even Rogue has a limited lifetime warranty on frame and structural welds. Then again, for the prices these companies charge, I really scratch my head when both Prime and Rogue offer only a 90 day warranty on upholstery. Seems pretty weak to me! I am looking at a Tuffstuff Lat Pulldown/Row machine which is literally, less than 1/3 the price of the Prodigy and it comes with a full lifetime warranty on ALL parts if used in a home, non-commercial setting. It's not the unit I really want, and has a lot less functionality, but for the price difference over the Prodigy, I might have to go with it.
@@lrww5673 yeah I think it’s because most of these pieces are meant for commercial gyms and due to the abuse they undoubtedly get put through, they don’t offer anything lifetime. They definitely should offer it for their home gym customers though, it’s definitely unfortunate they don’t.
Wow, that shipping price is crazy. I am interested in their products but being priced at 3.4k with no attachments shipped makes this a no go. Now if you choose a 2 day shipment I understand the price. I seen someone in the comments say they ordered one a month ago and was still waiting - oof. Cool review but paying hundreds in shipping and having to wait 4+weeks seems crazy to me.
Yeah I agree, the shipping price is crazy. The lead time is more like 10-12 weeks, these machines are made to order and require half down before they will even start manufacturing it. Rogue’s was too tall for my basement and came fully assembled so it would have been difficult to get it downstairs so that’s why I went this route. Overall it was worth it for my purposes but your points are very valid because it was crazy expensive and took about 3 months to get it to my door.
You’d contact them and let them know you’d like to pay either by wire or check. When I placed my order, the accountant gave me all the required information when they sent the invoice to me.
Nope, I mentioned in my video toward the end that due to the design, it does rock because the back pin sits in a 1 inch hole when that pull pin is only a 1/2 inch diameter.
@@GoreckiFit Thank you for replying! I want to purchase this, but before I do I want to make sure all the bugs on it can be fixed. I may have to be creative in fixing that issue myself. Thanks again!
@@ElRey252 well thankfully you waited because they did a rolling upgrade where you get 4 way holes and laser cut numbering compared to the first release that Adam has.
They actually did a rolling upgrade and now it’s standard along w laser cut numbers on the upright. Here’s the message from Mike from Prime Fitness when I asked about this. “All Prodigy Racks and Single Stacks moving forward will include 4-way hole spacing and laser cut numbers marking height adjustment options for attachments”
What do you think is your favorite feature about the single stack? Also, the seat and the foot plate look kinda beefy, do you think someone with a smaller frame will be able to do it alone?
I think my favorite feature is actually the low row foot platform. The fact that I can place it up higher and pull a bench over makes it very comfortable to do rows. As for the seat and foot plate, I did weigh them and their about 32lbs each. I think if you brace yourself and let that attachment lean up against you while lining up the holes, you shouldn’t have any problem putting the attachments on. Initially the attachment were hard to put on the single stack since the powder coating are in the holes, but after using it a few times, the powder coating wore down a bit and it’s much smoother.
I have a titan tower cable machine and a Valor lat pull down machine. Do I really need this prime lat pull down if I already have the machines avobe?? I wanted to add a functional trainner to my set up but don't know yet. Thinking about getting ares too with pr4000 and selling my prx wall rack, lat pull down and titan cable tower.
If you have the above machines already, no, you don’t need the Prime Single Stack because the cable tower will do the function of the adjustable pulley and the lat machine you have will perform functionally the same as this machines dedicated high pulley. I haven’t seen enough details about the Ares so personally holding off until someone like Gluck reviews it would be my recommendations. It looks great to me but for the price, definitely hold off and see how well it goes. People thought Rogue’s Slinger was gonna be awesome and many people were disappointed. Let me know what you decide as I’m always interested to hear how others setup their space.
Yeah, it’s very slight unless you’re fully braced and pulling very heavy. I think if they used a 1 inch pin in the back, it would have fixed it but probably added more weight to the seat which is 32 lbs already.
I want to buy either 2 x Prime Fitness Selectorized Single Stack or 1 x Rogue Lat Pulldown LP-2 and 2x Rogue Cable Tower CT-1. Which one would you choose and which one do you think has the better quality?
So this answer depends. Rogue LP-2 comes with a 300lb stack, 10lb increments and ships almost fully assembled. If this is going in a garage or facility, that isn’t a huge deal but if it ends up going in a lower level gym, moving it downstairs is going to be quite difficult plus you have ceiling height requirements. Prime Fitness ships disassembled and has different height and stack/weight increments and is not meant to be a stand alone Lat pulldown but can function as one. If it’s a faculty, having a Lat pulldown and the CT-1’s make more sense because it’s separate pieces and you won’t have to change out seat/low row attachment each time. If it’s a home gym, I think the 2 HLP Prodigy Single Stacks are gonna be the better way to go since you they are just as versatile and take up less space and will save you money. Quality is in my opinion fallen for Rogue post pandemic but anyway you go, the quality is going to very similar. Hope that helps!!
Max height of adjustable pulley is about 73.5 inches from floor to cable and that lat pull down pulley does swivel so it feels very smooth when doing your exercises.
@@GoreckiFit Thank you! That seems kind of low since it is 91 inches for the machine and the top of the adjustable pulley looks close to the top of that. Kind of surprising to me
Thanks for the info. Would you say that your legs are proportional to your torso, or are you more leg dominant in your build? Just trying to see how the build would impact the footprint, if at all
Thanks for being honest about the price and shipping costs. It is definitely a luxury but a lot more useful than a $4,200 Rolex.
Completely agree!!
Very nice review man. I’ve watched the other ones out there, and this had a lot more info!
Thank you, very well appreciated!!
Definitely best review for this!!
Thanks man!! Very well appreciated!!
This thing is a beast! Bro, I expect you to do the full stack by the end of the year!!!💪💪😂
😂 I’m working on it !!
Very useful and complete review. Thank you!
Thank you, if you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask cause that’s why I’m here.
Prime has PREMIUM equipment! Very nice piece and great review!
Thank you!! It definitely is a great addition for my home gym.
Hope everyone enjoyed the Prime Single Stack Review. I personally feel this is a game changer for a home gym, so if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to drop me a comment. As always, don't forget to hit that LIKE button if you enjoyed this video and hit that SUBSCRIBE button so you don't miss any future videos!!! Hope you all are having a great day!
****Important note from Prime Fitness at the time of this video****
“All Prodigy Racks and Single Stacks moving forward will include 4-way hole spacing and laser cut numbers marking height adjustment options for attachments”
The 4 way spacing adds a lot of versatility. Thanks for the update.
@@geoffe8951 absolutely, I’m so happy I waited on this piece and was able to get that upgrade.
Great review! I ordered one back in March, can’t wait until it arrives! Also for anyone that cares, colors are customizable for an extra charge.
That’s awesome, I’m excited for you man!!
I agree. For the cost of this thing, I'd find space for the Rogue LP-2.
I looked at that one as well, unfortunately my ceiling height wasn't tall enough and if it was, I might have killed myself getting that thing downstairs.
Hands down great review.
DISSERTAIONAL in scope
Thank you!! Definitely wanted to provide as much information as possible to help people make a good decision.
It's not expensive for what you get. Rogue has thier column for about the same price minus the top pulley.
Is that front column new or special order? On the web site it shows holes on the front side but not the sides.
Great video bro!
Yeah price is comparable with Rogue for sure. The front column is new, they did a rolling upgrade where there is 4 way holes in the front column and laser cut numbers as well.
@@GoreckiFit that was my only hesitation with it. That and I luv dual handle cable columns. But this is going to be my purchase now. Thanks again.
@@Rocket4ce happy to help!!
Nice review..what is that stainless loading T bar pin on your wall?
Thank you, that's actually made of aluminum and it was from Elite FTS but it's the Next Level Training T-Bell.
I’m going in. The only problem I’m having deciding is to go with the plate loaded. Or the selectorized 1/4. If I go the selectorized route I can always just get a pin to add more weight right? I think the 1:4 will be much smoother and I can use a sled harness on it.
Selectorized is 2:1 ratio for the adjustable pulley and 1:1 with high pulley. I love the idea of being able to switch ratios with the plate loaded (4:1 or 2:1)but I workout w the gf and there is a big strength curve and she doesn’t like to load weight or unload 😂 so the selectorized won. And yes, you can add weight with a pin.
Your column appears to have holes on all sides, whereas other reviews have holes in just two. Is that a new feature?
That's a great question and yes mine does have holes on both sides. I am guessing it's a new feature but I can reach out to Prime and ask to confirm.
Hey Ben, I just received a message from Mike at Prime Fitness. All Prodigy Racks and Single Stacks moving forward will include 4-way hole spacing and laser cut numbers marking height adjustment options for attachments. Hope this helped.
Are the weight stacks made in the USA? Great thorough review!
Thank you!! It’s my understanding that everything is made in facility at their Northwestern Pennsylvania factory.
Hey brother, many thanks for the video! What is the warranty for this unit? If I'm paying a premium for a product, it should have a lifetime warranty IMO..
No lifetime warranty unfortunately just a limited warranty and I agree man it should!!
- 10 year warranty- structural frame breaks and weight stack plates
-5 year warranty structural moving parts
-1 year warranty linear bearings, grips, belts and cables
-90 day warranty upholstery, gas shocks, popper pins, and accessories
@@GoreckiFit I appreciate the quick reply! However, that's unfortunate to hear. Even Rogue has a limited lifetime warranty on frame and structural welds. Then again, for the prices these companies charge, I really scratch my head when both Prime and Rogue offer only a 90 day warranty on upholstery. Seems pretty weak to me! I am looking at a Tuffstuff Lat Pulldown/Row machine which is literally, less than 1/3 the price of the Prodigy and it comes with a full lifetime warranty on ALL parts if used in a home, non-commercial setting. It's not the unit I really want, and has a lot less functionality, but for the price difference over the Prodigy, I might have to go with it.
@@lrww5673 yeah I think it’s because most of these pieces are meant for commercial gyms and due to the abuse they undoubtedly get put through, they don’t offer anything lifetime. They definitely should offer it for their home gym customers though, it’s definitely unfortunate they don’t.
What is the wall storage that is in the video that is holding all the accessories?
That’s my Wall Control Peg Board that is holding all the accessories.
Wow, that shipping price is crazy. I am interested in their products but being priced at 3.4k with no attachments shipped makes this a no go. Now if you choose a 2 day shipment I understand the price. I seen someone in the comments say they ordered one a month ago and was still waiting - oof. Cool review but paying hundreds in shipping and having to wait 4+weeks seems crazy to me.
Yeah I agree, the shipping price is crazy. The lead time is more like 10-12 weeks, these machines are made to order and require half down before they will even start manufacturing it. Rogue’s was too tall for my basement and came fully assembled so it would have been difficult to get it downstairs so that’s why I went this route. Overall it was worth it for my purposes but your points are very valid because it was crazy expensive and took about 3 months to get it to my door.
So how do I avoid the Credit card fee. How do you pay by debit or direct deposit.
You’d contact them and let them know you’d like to pay either by wire or check. When I placed my order, the accountant gave me all the required information when they sent the invoice to me.
In Adam’s review of this, he mentions how the pull down seat wiggles once it’s on the upright. Have you noticed any improvements on the seat?
Nope, I mentioned in my video toward the end that due to the design, it does rock because the back pin sits in a 1 inch hole when that pull pin is only a 1/2 inch diameter.
@@GoreckiFit Thank you for replying! I want to purchase this, but before I do I want to make sure all the bugs on it can be fixed. I may have to be creative in fixing that issue myself. Thanks again!
@@ElRey252 well thankfully you waited because they did a rolling upgrade where you get 4 way holes and laser cut numbering compared to the first release that Adam has.
How much extra was the 4 way hole option that’s huge!!!
They actually did a rolling upgrade and now it’s standard along w laser cut numbers on the upright. Here’s the message from Mike from Prime Fitness when I asked about this.
“All Prodigy Racks and Single Stacks moving forward will include 4-way hole spacing and laser cut numbers marking height adjustment options for attachments”
What do you think is your favorite feature about the single stack?
Also, the seat and the foot plate look kinda beefy, do you think someone with a smaller frame will be able to do it alone?
I think my favorite feature is actually the low row foot platform. The fact that I can place it up higher and pull a bench over makes it very comfortable to do rows. As for the seat and foot plate, I did weigh them and their about 32lbs each. I think if you brace yourself and let that attachment lean up against you while lining up the holes, you shouldn’t have any problem putting the attachments on. Initially the attachment were hard to put on the single stack since the powder coating are in the holes, but after using it a few times, the powder coating wore down a bit and it’s much smoother.
I have a titan tower cable machine and a Valor lat pull down machine. Do I really need this prime lat pull down if I already have the machines avobe??
I wanted to add a functional trainner to my set up but don't know yet. Thinking about getting ares too with pr4000 and selling
my prx wall rack, lat pull down and titan cable tower.
If you have the above machines already, no, you don’t need the Prime Single Stack because the cable tower will do the function of the adjustable pulley and the lat machine you have will perform functionally the same as this machines dedicated high pulley. I haven’t seen enough details about the Ares so personally holding off until someone like Gluck reviews it would be my recommendations. It looks great to me but for the price, definitely hold off and see how well it goes. People thought Rogue’s Slinger was gonna be awesome and many people were disappointed. Let me know what you decide as I’m always interested to hear how others setup their space.
@@GoreckiFit thank u very much. If u don't mind looking at my garage and giving me some pointers. Thank u
@@futbol1972 just took a look and commented. Overall it’s a solid space!!
@@GoreckiFit thank u
Very nice addition to a home gym! 🙌
Thank you, I absolutely love it so far!! A bit pricey but it’s worth every penny.
I'm getting one of these in and want to order a gympin. Does the selectorized stack have 8mm or 10mm holes?
My pin is 9.5mm so you’re looking at a 10mm pin
Are you ok with the slight wobble in the seat? If they used a full 1 inch pin would that fix this?
Yeah, it’s very slight unless you’re fully braced and pulling very heavy. I think if they used a 1 inch pin in the back, it would have fixed it but probably added more weight to the seat which is 32 lbs already.
I want to buy either 2 x Prime Fitness Selectorized Single Stack or 1 x Rogue Lat Pulldown LP-2 and 2x Rogue Cable Tower CT-1. Which one would you choose and which one do you think has the better quality?
So this answer depends. Rogue LP-2 comes with a 300lb stack, 10lb increments and ships almost fully assembled. If this is going in a garage or facility, that isn’t a huge deal but if it ends up going in a lower level gym, moving it downstairs is going to be quite difficult plus you have ceiling height requirements. Prime Fitness ships disassembled and has different height and stack/weight increments and is not meant to be a stand alone Lat pulldown but can function as one. If it’s a faculty, having a Lat pulldown and the CT-1’s make more sense because it’s separate pieces and you won’t have to change out seat/low row attachment each time. If it’s a home gym, I think the 2 HLP Prodigy Single Stacks are gonna be the better way to go since you they are just as versatile and take up less space and will save you money. Quality is in my opinion fallen for Rogue post pandemic but anyway you go, the quality is going to very similar. Hope that helps!!
What is the max height of the adjustable pulley? Does the lat pull down pulley swivel?
Max height of adjustable pulley is about 73.5 inches from floor to cable and that lat pull down pulley does swivel so it feels very smooth when doing your exercises.
@@GoreckiFit Thank you! That seems kind of low since it is 91 inches for the machine and the top of the adjustable pulley looks close to the top of that. Kind of surprising to me
How much room do you need when you're sitting down to row? From the very back of the machine to where your butt is sitting?
This is gonna vary quite a bit depending on the person but for me from back of the machine to where my butt is sitting is around 8ft and I’m 5’11”.
Thanks for the info. Would you say that your legs are proportional to your torso, or are you more leg dominant in your build? Just trying to see how the build would impact the footprint, if at all
@@Chris_from_Detroit I’d say my legs are directly proportional with my torso.
So what was the shipping price?
Shipping was about $652 at time of order.
What’s the the with from the front upright to the pack upright?
It’s about 42 inches from the front of the upright to the back.
@@GoreckiFit thanks much
What is the size of the holes on the top cross member?
.562 according to my caliper so about 9/16
Thanks much for the informative review!
@@GoreckiFit one more question. Do your monster lite pins from rogue fit the top cross members.
@@rk23cw happy to help!!
@@rk23cw you mean the band pegs? Unfortunately no, they don’t fit because those holes are very small on the top cross member.
Nice machine, just don’t like the Neon colors they use.
Yeah you aren’t the only one. I was considering doing what Brandon did but didn’t want to mess anything up so I left it.
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Thanks!!
Too pricey for me...
Yeah sadly this thing is crazy expensive!!
So expensive
Sadly.....Yes it is