Can we finally say “Let’s go Brandon” and have it genuinely mean something sincere, supportive, and congratulatory? Brandon Tsay is a brave and awesome guy. I wish him, the victims, and their families well in their long recovery from this trauma.
Brandon didn't subdued him. "The shooter is 72-year-old Huu Can Tran. At one point they were looking for an Asian male 30-50 years old. This is all such a tragic mess that didn't have to happen. If a 72 year old didn't have access to guns, he sure as hell wouldn't have killed 10 people with his fists," wrote another. This is the 5th Mass Murder and the 33rd Mass Shooting of the year," tweeted a user.
@@archangeldo913 Mass shootings are not the Super Bowl. This is not a sport, and there are no winners. You know there is going to be another one… Your nonchalant attitude towards the victims is a little unnerving.
As a 626 resident, this is a tough pill to swallow. My mom danced there for years and was good friends with two of the deceased and another two currently in the hospital fighting for their lives. 😢
@@tednguyen7258 most likely Chinese Viet which is also my family's background. The 626 area is heavily populated with Chinese from Vietnam who fled during the war, and it's very common for them to adopt Viet transliterations of their Chinese names. So Chan/Chen would be Tran for example. The ballroom dancing community there is by far and large of Chinese descent (my family friend is part of it and she and her husband were actually the main couple in the doc short "Walk Run Cha Cha), which he was involved in at one point. As to why they say he's a Chinese immigrant? Could be that he left Vietnam to study in China and later moved to the US (eg my family friend left Vietnam to study in Taiwan and lived there several years before moving to 626, hence she has dual Taiwanese/US citizenship despite being born in Vietnam). Could also be a clerical error as the US govt was very lax about checking paperwork back then, and some uneducated white boi govt official mistook his Chinese heritage as meaning he was born in China (eg my aunt, despite being born in Vietnam, is listed as born in China on her US passport, the US govt couldn't put in two shits of effort to better parse that info out lol). Highly unlikely he's ethnic Viet who is from China, there's not that many of them, and even less likely those ethnic Viets would move here as China was not the one besieged by war at the time. There was little reason for them to flee compared to the refugees from war-torn Vietnam.
I live in LA and I'm not Asian but this hit me hard! Violence and mental health do not discriminate! We need more heros like the guy who took the gun away! Prayers for the families!
Thank you for having this conversation. It is truly a unique situation and tragic. The generational and cultural spotlight on mental health is a needed conversation and acknowledgement.
Bro as a black men living in Monterey Park near Garvey, it's crazy that happened closed to where I live. I was working that night the shooting happended. So I could not hear the gunshots. RIP to those who died on the lunar new year festival.
Its com to my awareness that there's some racist asians out here , please don't think we are all like that . I've com to realize its the bad narsisistic people in the world F@cking it up for the rest of us . Theres no race vs race its good vs evil .
As a black america man, my thoughts and prayers are with the Asian community in Monterey Park. Also I'm celebrating Chinese New Year as well. Much respect and support to my Asian brothers and sisters.
Knock it off. Those same Asian “brothers and sisters” have for the past two years demonized black people alone as the face of Asian hate. You think they share the same sentiments when black people die in South LA?
There has been another shooting in the San Francisco just now! An Chinese-American shooter killed 7 people at a nursery! Two mass shootings in three days involving elderly Asian-American shooters! Unreal! I am speechless! RIP to all the victims!
We thought it was fireworks until the sirens came. There is no way we would have ever imagined those sounds were of people passing so close to home. The count is now at 11 :'(. For those in the area, Langley Center is open for those affected by the tragedy - they have therapists, community assistance and searching services available for those who need it.
Hits home. From the 626 area, grew up in MPK, went to school at Ynez, balled up Barnes Park around the way…hitting home hard. Thank you for making this video. You guys always represent the 626 (previously known as the 818)
My sister and her husband goes to this ballroom 4 to 5 times a week ! They were invited to party .THANKFULLY , did not attend !!! Unfortunately , one of their friend was a victim :( News just came in . She did not survive .:(
Brandon was lucky and brave. Most cases you won't get close enough before you get shot. Probably freeze with fear too. All credit to Brandon, definitely save lives. The shooter was going to do the same as the first location
Thanks for starting the conversation on mental heath and the need for these services. Hope we can continue the dialogue and start some constructive solutions.
Great analogy brothers. We don’t talk about Mental health much in Asian communities or at least in Burmese communities. It still has a stigma as “crazy” or something shameful (embarrassment). As a son of a man who struggled with a mental illness for his whole life until he passed, I can relate in terms of mental health. RIP to all victims and my respect to Brandon…
May Their Souls Rest in Peace.🕯🎗 And may God grant their family the strength, peace and comfort to overcome this tragedy. My condolences and prayers are with the deceased and their family.
My thoughts and prayers are with the families, friends and loved ones of the deceased. I'm also praying for those still fighting for their lives in the hospital. God bless the victims and may they rest in peace❤
I remember coming back to the USA after living in Korea for a year/traveling through Europe. I was attending a friends NYE party. It was time for us to leave(this was at a house in the east Bay Area), and we heard noises outside and couldn’t tell if it was gun shots or firecrackers. We had to wait in doors for another hour just in case… I remember this blowing my mind, because Its pretty much inconceivable that anybody from another developed country would have to be cautious of something like this. Only in the USA.
I've worked in that area for over 25 years and still frequent the area. I have never heard or seen of anything like this. I know there's some shady stuff going on there but never stuff like this. I bet many businesses now will be looking up California's Castle Doctrine. Believe me, it's not only in the United States. When I was stationed in the Far East during that "conflict", a contract on a person only cost $5 and the police only investigated for a week before dropping the case. The military couldn't do anything for you off base.
Brandon Tsay- a true hero!! Wow, he saved so many lives. Amazing human being! Condolences to the families who lost loved ones. This 213 gal stands with the 626 Asian community.
RIP to all the victims. I really hope this tragedy does lead to more discussions about mental health in the Asian community. You're right it is basically non-existent among 2nd-gen ABC like myself.
Mental health access has been difficult to obtain during the Covid-19 pandemic, because of sheer number of people needing therapy. Will the government offer to increase mental health resources during this time or at least invest significantly to train more people for the mental health field particularly for the Asian community would be helpful.
Thank you for doing this! As someone who grew-up in the 626, this is VERY PERSONAL! There need to be significant resource allocation to the older mono-lingual Asian population; especially for mental health. This is a tragedy. This is unacceptable to many of us who thought that this would be insulated from gun violence. I am beyond sad…. Thank you for voicing some of our concerns!
Mental health for our elders is so hard to work because there’s a stigma to admitting that your feeling or thinking okay. But what are the steps or ways we can combat this? I’m so numb to gun violence and all those other mass shooters in America is the same way, they don’t need help and I’m sure they didn’t let those very few around them know that they are troubled.
A full auto MAC-11 or a pre-ban semi auto MAC-11 that fires from an open bolt is an NFA regulated weapon. If it was registered prior to 1986 it is legal to own if you have the appropriate BATFE paperwork, tax stamps, and comply with all federal and state laws relating to NFA weapons.
hes an outcast and was not invited so he kills other people. thats just crazy. some people just cant handle and take rejection. so many dance halls in los angles. its like hes never been rejected before . who hasnt been rejected .
The guy that chose to intervene is a hero. He may not have prevented the massacre, but he likely saved many lives that would otherwise have been taken. But in terms of the typical age profile of mass shooters, someone at that age committing such an atrocity is extremely rare. It's normally a teen to 25-year-old disturbed male that feels resentful with life and wants an outlet to make a name for themselves. And given the CNY festivities, the perpetrator likely orchestrated this well in advance.
Not long ago, the 626 was a crime riddled war zone. Who remembers Summer Madness? Rampant Home Invasions? Folks getting popped at stop lights or random freeway shootings? Couldn't go out to some areas bc the the local gangs would trip and hit me up.... Since they couldn't figure whether I was Mexican or Asian. --- it wasn't too long ago. If you ask older LA natives, they still have that stereotype of various areas of the 626 being dangerous. --- This might hit different bc it's an dude in his 70's though... But some of the most cold-hearted cats are the uncles who've seen real wars and 3rd world style violence.
That’s the culture I grew up with in the 626. There also seemed to be a lot of Asian on Asian shootings. And I always thought MPK was one of the hotspots for that. Anybody remember WaChing, Viet boyz, and United Bamboo? As a teen I used to always live with caution and a little bit of fear. So when they say that this community never saw guns and something like this was inconceivable…. I was like 🤔
the guy in the hat was on point - the younger generation of Asians must take the initiative to normalizes talking about mental health in our communities.
You guys made a fresh and legitimate point that I haven't heard before. You said this kind of stuff is part of America. It is expected. The structures are built in. Anyone can get angry and pick up a weapon. Not just young white males. I'm grateful that my parents moved us to Canada instead of the States in retrospect.
@@timchen2550 Yeah, I know right. That's one. When we look at the stats of both countries. Canada only has a fraction of America. With the US, every few days there's a thing. In Chicago, where this sort of thing is common occurrence, some of them don't even make it to the news.
This is 7 miles from our front door. We were gonna go to Alhambra on Saturday, but it was a long day and figured we'd just go Sunday. Sigh. We barely had time to process Monterey Park when news of Half Moon Bay came in. This is the darkest timeline. Stay strong.
in the hmong community we have similar but different incidences. but often very common in tradgey. i’m referring to family suicide. often it’s a parent who has most of their problems tied to their partner and tied to their family. from what trends say it’s often violence directed at the partner first, and then trickles down to surviving family members as a list of people before the perpetrator ends their own life. there’s been a few in the last few years i the hmong community. but from what i know, this has happened as early as 2-3 decades ago. turned out my moms brother had a family, went wild and ended everyone in his family at home except for a daughter and a son who was in the military not home during the incident. he went back home to burry everyone but his youngest sister. never got to meet them as far as i know. but yeah… asians do things different than others from what i see
Thank you for addressing this matter. It is a major issue especially those older generations whose trying to balance between cultures and traditions living in America. Mental issue plays a big part. Sad to hear. Hope for the better new year and happy new year to everyone. Condolences to the victims and their families.
there needs to be more done when it comes to mental illness when it comes to the asian communities and in every other community. i lost a few of my asian friends that were mentally ill. the brother of one of the guys that died told me that his father didn't believe in mental help or dealing with his sons depression. i get people want act strong but if someone is hurting they need to be able to get help without being judged. it's sad that these people had to lose their lives by a totally senseless act of violence. the only way to get gun laws in place is by dealing with the nra and voting out any and all politicians that don't want to do anything about the gun laws. the nra and many of the politicians on the right are pushing for more guns to be put out there and it's disgusting.
Some of the strictest gun laws were in place… the dude still got a hold of them. Also one thing to consider… now more than ever people are seeing therapists and psychiatrists, and taking medication to treat mental conditions….People weren’t doing that in the 50s and 60s, and people had a higher gun ownership rate back then… but mass shootings were non existent…. There is something else going on in this country… I can’t really put my finger on it, I have a feeling it has a lot to do with over prescription of meds…
I live on Garvey Ave, so this was about 1.3 miles from my home. If it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. It’s a fairly tight-knit, kind community. Heart-breaking. 😔
When you really think about it, it's not that surprising that it was an older Asian male. This particular demographic probably has it at the very worst right now in America. Asian males have always been valued quite low in Western Society and when you throw in no wife and old age it pretty much makes them worthless in the eyes of western society, I can't think of a particular demographic more ostracized and excluded in Western society than this. He obviously did this because he had nothing to lose & wanted others to feel his pain. Not saying that was rightful justification for his actions, but more into the psychotic reasoning for why he did what he did.
Yes and No. Partially due to his mental health, but you also got to look at the social politics of which he was a part of. Gossip bullying, ridicule, just what was going on between him and the instructors? Including the owners? What about the de-escalation from management to protect their patrons by reporting him to police or having some kind of intervention to address the "friction" that was spoken about. If he was causing problems there, like giving free lessons, how did that bear on the other instructors who were charging? Look around you, there are ticking time bombs walking behind you and to your left and right everyday. Practice diplomacy and put on that kind face, it just may save your life.
But also, actually show people some real love, because everyone is worthy of love and respect, especially the “unlovable”. People see through the kind face and it really doesn’t help
This sounds like it was a personal vendetta against the dance club and the patrons more than anything. So tragic that it got to this terrible conclusion
To define a new year's day, first we need to define the calendar. It's not a lunar calendar, it's the Chinese Agricultural Calendar (CAC), Aka Chinese traditional calendar, which is both a lunar and solar calendar. We call it 农历 or 旧历 in Chinese. CAC is the one that has been used for thousands of years. Western calendar was introduced to China only 200 years ago. We still use CAC in China, many national holiday date is determined by CAC, like 中秋，端午，重阳，春节，七夕，冬至. For the Chinese New Year, the lunar side of the calendar determines that this day happens on a new moon day, the solar side of the calendar determines that this day will roughly mark the beginning of spring, which is why it always happens in late January or early February, and that's why it's also called Spring Festival in China. In CAC, one year is divided into 24 portions in relation to the climate. The common thing about Japan, Korea, Vietnam is they all used Chinese as their writing language for more than a thousand years. Korea and Vietnam invented their own writing system in the last 200 years. Japan gradually developed their own language but they still use a lot of Chinese characters (Kanji). The traditional culture of Korea and Vietnam was from China. I don't think Korean still use traditional calendar, they celebrate the New Year from China just like they also celebrate Christmas from Western culture.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. Instead, people rely on calling 911, and bleeding out while waiting 3 minutes for first responders to arrive. “bUt StRiCtEr gUn LaWs” am I right? 😂
The craziest thing is how did the shooter went from SGV to Torrance? I lived in the unincorporated area of LA County for 18 years and I go to Torrance visiting locations for idk reasons. Now it’s very unsettling. I pray to the victims who were involved in the shooting.
I think this mass shooting is stunning because it's Asian on Asian. Virginia Tech mass shooting (2007) was perpetrated by an Asian. You guys are right, there is mental disability in every culture. Another reason for humanity to pull together. Rest in peace to all the victims. God bless you guys for not shying away from the topic. We need to talk.
I could not forget the Virginia tech as well. Theres some revenge going on he says his doing it for his brothers and sisters that have hurt as if he's saying it for people like him not his race.
I'm a white guy, but I'm originally from Monterey Park This is supposed to be a safe place in LA! It makes me sad that many ppl aren't going think of MP / the SGV as safe anymore
Please put out some helplines numbers for people to call in case they need help to grieve. For example 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Maybe there are some local and national mental health care providers people can reach out to.
I grew up in the 626 in the 90s, other side in Hacienda Heights. I remember Asian gangs was a huge thing back then, is that not really a thing in the area any more? I remember I used to hear a lot about Asian on Asian shootings and I was always cautious and scared.
such an awful event and the fact that is happened right before lunar new year :( i live in the 626 so this hits too close to home. its insane how we have normalized gun violence in the US
This is why we all need to stay ARMED and be able to defend ourselves. This would've been over real quick if citizens can exercise their #2A rights in this communist state.
My doctor is few blocks away. This is too close to home. Horrible tragedy. The Asian community really needs to talk about mental health. Most of my Asian friends won't even go to a psychiatrist just to get accessed. This is culturally looked down on. I have mental health issues myself n have been in psychological and psychiatrist care since I was a teen. My friend thinks i should stop seeing a pysch. N instead of the medication, diet, excercise, meditation. That's very typical asian. I get it but there are many that need medical treatment. Psych meds are not a cure. I have 2 issues that i am going to live with n theirs no cure.. Thankfully I'm in treatment but I still have episodes. Even with meds.. If you suffer from mental issues .. getting diagnosed is 90%... then getting treatment. It took about 20 years to get a correct diagnosed. Before that I was diagnosed major depressive disorder.. All of my family over 65 years old are on Xanax or some meds for depression. This was preventable. N I've been to that area since college almost daily. RIP
I really agree with both of you guys, when you see the old man was jealous in this case , and didn’t care his life , Also seems he has PTSD ,but the way he used the gun so well and shoot so many people, he must be in army before . Prayers 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 rip for all victims 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Such sad and heart breaking news. My thoughts and prayers to the affected families and victims. This epidemic of mass shootings in America must end. Too easy to acquire firearms.
There needs to be tougher gun laws and loopholes that criminals like Huu Can Tran used to obtain illegal guns. The requirements aren’t as tough as buying from a store, if you buy a gun online, at a gun show, and someone could easily go out of state to Nevada. We need registration of gun ownership and must meet criminal background checks and mental health criteria to own a gun. Gun owners should carry insurance like drivers do.
I don't know why the news media didn't let Chief Jeremiah Hart, the Chief of the Torrance Police Department talk at the briefing. There were too many political people there speaking at the news conference. Hart's officers stopped the perp.
@@environmentalnews6040 Another mass shooting just now. We're getting desensitized. Maybe we need to think about gun reform. but who cares bc 2nd amendment is protected than abortion.
let’s give it up to BRANDON TSAY who saved so many that night!!! RIP to the victims and God Bless their families
Can we finally say “Let’s go Brandon” and have it genuinely mean something sincere, supportive, and congratulatory?
Brandon Tsay is a brave and awesome guy. I wish him, the victims, and their families well in their long recovery from this trauma.
Brandon didn't subdued him.
"The shooter is 72-year-old Huu Can Tran. At one point they were looking for an Asian male 30-50 years old. This is all such a tragic mess that didn't have to happen. If a 72 year old didn't have access to guns, he sure as hell wouldn't have killed 10 people with his fists," wrote another.
This is the 5th Mass Murder and the 33rd Mass Shooting of the year," tweeted a user.
@@archangeldo913 Mass shootings are not the Super Bowl. This is not a sport, and there are no winners. You know there is going to be another one… Your nonchalant attitude towards the victims is a little unnerving.
@@environmentalnews6040 your opinion
Brandon is my hero ❤
As a 626 resident, this is a tough pill to swallow. My mom danced there for years and was good friends with two of the deceased and another two currently in the hospital fighting for their lives. 😢
was the shooter chinese? viet name but says hes chinese
Pray for them 🙏🙏🙏😓
@@tednguyen7258 💯 % viet. Huu can means cocaine
@@tednguyen7258 most likely Chinese Viet which is also my family's background. The 626 area is heavily populated with Chinese from Vietnam who fled during the war, and it's very common for them to adopt Viet transliterations of their Chinese names. So Chan/Chen would be Tran for example. The ballroom dancing community there is by far and large of Chinese descent (my family friend is part of it and she and her husband were actually the main couple in the doc short "Walk Run Cha Cha), which he was involved in at one point. As to why they say he's a Chinese immigrant? Could be that he left Vietnam to study in China and later moved to the US (eg my family friend left Vietnam to study in Taiwan and lived there several years before moving to 626, hence she has dual Taiwanese/US citizenship despite being born in Vietnam). Could also be a clerical error as the US govt was very lax about checking paperwork back then, and some uneducated white boi govt official mistook his Chinese heritage as meaning he was born in China (eg my aunt, despite being born in Vietnam, is listed as born in China on her US passport, the US govt couldn't put in two shits of effort to better parse that info out lol). Highly unlikely he's ethnic Viet who is from China, there's not that many of them, and even less likely those ethnic Viets would move here as China was not the one besieged by war at the time. There was little reason for them to flee compared to the refugees from war-torn Vietnam.
Very sad.
I live in LA and I'm not Asian but this hit me hard! Violence and mental health do not discriminate! We need more heros like the guy who took the gun away! Prayers for the families!
God bliss!
Thank you for having this conversation. It is truly a unique situation and tragic. The generational and cultural spotlight on mental health is a needed conversation and acknowledgement.
Glad you guys did this episode. I knew this would be here so I came straight looking for this
RIP to the deceased, condolences to their families.
Condolences to the families for their loved ones. Respect to Brandon Tsay. Peace and love
Bro as a black men living in Monterey Park near Garvey, it's crazy that happened closed to where I live. I was working that night the shooting happended. So I could not hear the gunshots. RIP to those who died on the lunar new year festival.
its really crazy, never expected this. people that live here are in a comfortable bubble so i think it shook many :(
Its com to my awareness that there's some racist asians out here , please don't think we are all like that . I've com to realize its the bad narsisistic people in the world F@cking it up for the rest of us . Theres no race vs race its good vs evil .
Thank you for offering your perspectives and providing the links.
As a black america man, my thoughts and prayers are with the Asian community in Monterey Park. Also I'm celebrating Chinese New Year as well. Much respect and support to my Asian brothers and sisters.
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Knock it off. Those same Asian “brothers and sisters” have for the past two years demonized black people alone as the face of Asian hate. You think they share the same sentiments when black people die in South LA?
There has been another shooting in the San Francisco just now! An Chinese-American shooter killed 7 people at a nursery! Two mass shootings in three days involving elderly Asian-American shooters! Unreal! I am speechless! RIP to all the victims!
No way 😲
Plus there was an Asian mass shooting last year in LA. Sounds like something needs to be done about all this Asian on Asian crime.
We thought it was fireworks until the sirens came. There is no way we would have ever imagined those sounds were of people passing so close to home. The count is now at 11 :'(. For those in the area, Langley Center is open for those affected by the tragedy - they have therapists, community assistance and searching services available for those who need it.
Thank you for sharing this. May you find assistance for yourself as you process this experience. Please take care of your health.
@@suite662 thank you. We are trying to take it easy but more importantly, be there for our community at this time. Appreciate your kind words friend ❤
I heard something like gunfire followed by sirens, too. I was in the South San Gabriel/Rosemead area. Thought it might be him doing a getaway.
Hits home. From the 626 area, grew up in MPK, went to school at Ynez, balled up Barnes Park around the way…hitting home hard. Thank you for making this video. You guys always represent the 626 (previously known as the 818)
wasnt even born when it was 818
@@tommys6596 I was born there when it was 213!
My sister and her husband goes to this ballroom 4 to 5 times a week ! They were invited to party .THANKFULLY , did not attend !!! Unfortunately , one of their friend was a victim :( News just came in . She did not survive .:(
My condolences 🙏
I'm sorry 😔
Thank you for helping out the Asian community during this tough time.
Thanks for covering this.
Brandon was lucky and brave. Most cases you won't get close enough before you get shot. Probably freeze with fear too.
All credit to Brandon, definitely save lives. The shooter was going to do the same as the first location
Thanks for starting the conversation on mental heath and the need for these services. Hope we can continue the dialogue and start some constructive solutions.
Great analogy brothers. We don’t talk about Mental health much in Asian communities or at least in Burmese communities. It still has a stigma as “crazy” or something shameful (embarrassment). As a son of a man who struggled with a mental illness for his whole life until he passed, I can relate in terms of mental health. RIP to all victims and my respect to Brandon…
May Their Souls Rest in Peace.🕯🎗
And may God grant their family the strength, peace and comfort to overcome this tragedy.
My condolences and prayers are with the deceased and their family.
RIP....Condolences from the UK. Respect to Brandon.
Thank y’all for donating 🙏❤️🙏
BRANDON NEEDS A MEDAL OF HONOR
Good discussion Gentlemen. Many complex issues.
My thoughts and prayers are with the families, friends and loved ones of the deceased. I'm also praying for those still fighting for their lives in the hospital. God bless the victims and may they rest in peace❤
same 🙏🏼
The news misspelled the hero's name, it's Brandon Hsieh. Strong guy, stronger than me. What a champ.
Sympathy to all affected by yet another senseless tragedy. 💔
This is not a race hate crime. It is a mad Asian man to hate people he knows.
I remember coming back to the USA after living in Korea for a year/traveling through Europe. I was attending a friends NYE party. It was time for us to leave(this was at a house in the east Bay Area), and we heard noises outside and couldn’t tell if it was gun shots or firecrackers. We had to wait in doors for another hour just in case… I remember this blowing my mind, because Its pretty much inconceivable that anybody from another developed country would have to be cautious of something like this. Only in the USA.
Gun culture. Why can no genius solve this problem? Is there not a solution?
I'm from Antioch, my brother was outside the mall and saw someone get shot in the parking lot.
Heartbreaking news. Prayers for the families. Thank goodness he was stopped before he caused more carnage.
I've worked in that area for over 25 years and still frequent the area. I have never heard or seen of anything like this. I know there's some shady stuff going on there but never stuff like this. I bet many businesses now will be looking up California's Castle Doctrine.
Believe me, it's not only in the United States. When I was stationed in the Far East during that "conflict", a contract on a person only cost $5 and the police only investigated for a week before dropping the case. The military couldn't do anything for you off base.
Mental health is a serious issue impacting the globe. My deepest condolences 🙏 to the families affected by this horrific tragedy 😢
Brandon Tsay- a true hero!! Wow, he saved so many lives. Amazing human being! Condolences to the families who lost loved ones. This 213 gal stands with the 626 Asian community.
RIP to all the victims. I really hope this tragedy does lead to more discussions about mental health in the Asian community. You're right it is basically non-existent among 2nd-gen ABC like myself.
Mental health access has been difficult to obtain during the Covid-19 pandemic, because of sheer number of people needing therapy. Will the government offer to increase mental health resources during this time or at least invest significantly to train more people for the mental health field particularly for the Asian community would be helpful.
You gents are on point and every point David brings up is hitting the nail on the head. It is a stew and not one singular element that is the problem.
Never seen a person be so *brave* as to wrangle a gun out of a mass shooter's hands. Wow, stunned
I agree with your statements. Very sad situation. I live in Chicago, near a large Southeast Asian community.
It's so crazy that their is a 2nd mass shooting from another elderly Asian man 🤯
So senseless, RIP to all victims, mad Props to Brandon Tsay!
Thank you for doing this! As someone who grew-up in the 626, this is VERY PERSONAL! There need to be significant resource allocation to the older mono-lingual Asian population; especially for mental health. This is a tragedy. This is unacceptable to many of us who thought that this would be insulated from gun violence. I am beyond sad…. Thank you for voicing some of our concerns!
Law enforcement said the story about him being mad at his wife is not true because he was not married. A motive is still not known.
Mental health for our elders is so hard to work because there’s a stigma to admitting that your feeling or thinking okay. But what are the steps or ways we can combat this? I’m so numb to gun violence and all those other mass shooters in America is the same way, they don’t need help and I’m sure they didn’t let those very few around them know that they are troubled.
A full auto MAC-11 or a pre-ban semi auto MAC-11 that fires from an open bolt is an NFA regulated weapon. If it was registered prior to 1986 it is legal to own if you have the appropriate BATFE paperwork, tax stamps, and comply with all federal and state laws relating to NFA weapons.
Too close to home, RIP 🕊️
Thank u 4 the video and link to the GoFundMe, I did not know they had one
What’s sad tho is Brandon had to go through this. No one should have to be put in that situation. ..but people r lucky he went into survival mode
Imagine if Brandon didn’t stop the gunman…
hes an outcast and was not invited so he kills other people. thats just crazy. some people just cant handle and take rejection. so many dance halls in los angles. its like hes never been rejected before . who hasnt been rejected .
You are so smart. What if he couldn’t make new friends easily?
The guy that chose to intervene is a hero. He may not have prevented the massacre, but he likely saved many lives that would otherwise have been taken. But in terms of the typical age profile of mass shooters, someone at that age committing such an atrocity is extremely rare. It's normally a teen to 25-year-old disturbed male that feels resentful with life and wants an outlet to make a name for themselves. And given the CNY festivities, the perpetrator likely orchestrated this well in advance.
Dude did you forget the vegas shooter??? The shooting involving Acalise? Yep they were young men!
Scalise
Not long ago, the 626 was a crime riddled war zone. Who remembers Summer Madness? Rampant Home Invasions? Folks getting popped at stop lights or random freeway shootings? Couldn't go out to some areas bc the the local gangs would trip and hit me up.... Since they couldn't figure whether I was Mexican or Asian. --- it wasn't too long ago. If you ask older LA natives, they still have that stereotype of various areas of the 626 being dangerous. --- This might hit different bc it's an dude in his 70's though... But some of the most cold-hearted cats are the uncles who've seen real wars and 3rd world style violence.
That’s the culture I grew up with in the 626. There also seemed to be a lot of Asian on Asian shootings. And I always thought MPK was one of the hotspots for that. Anybody remember WaChing, Viet boyz, and United Bamboo? As a teen I used to always live with caution and a little bit of fear.
So when they say that this community never saw guns and something like this was inconceivable…. I was like 🤔
the guy in the hat was on point - the younger generation of Asians must take the initiative to normalizes talking about mental health in our communities.
Mental health it hate crimes
You guys made a fresh and legitimate point that I haven't heard before. You said this kind of stuff is part of America. It is expected. The structures are built in. Anyone can get angry and pick up a weapon. Not just young white males. I'm grateful that my parents moved us to Canada instead of the States in retrospect.
Canada had the Edmonton mass shooting where an Asian man killed 7 of his relatives including toddlers a few years ago…
@@timchen2550 Yeah, I know right. That's one. When we look at the stats of both countries. Canada only has a fraction of America. With the US, every few days there's a thing. In Chicago, where this sort of thing is common occurrence, some of them don't even make it to the news.
I was heart sick to hear of this senseless attack and my heart goes out to their families.
Prayers for the families that loss their loved ones.
So sad, condolences to the families of the victims in Monterey
My condolences to all who lost family And friends, this is sad
I used to dance in that area. Especially Alhambra. My prayers to the community.
Praying for comfort for the families. This is just shocking and devastating
Thanks for covering this topic. This is a very good perspective on the asian community.
This is 7 miles from our front door. We were gonna go to Alhambra on Saturday, but it was a long day and figured we'd just go Sunday. Sigh. We barely had time to process Monterey Park when news of Half Moon Bay came in. This is the darkest timeline. Stay strong.
in the hmong community we have similar but different incidences. but often very common in tradgey. i’m referring to family suicide. often it’s a parent who has most of their problems tied to their partner and tied to their family. from what trends say it’s often violence directed at the partner first, and then trickles down to surviving family members as a list of people before the perpetrator ends their own life. there’s been a few in the last few years i the hmong community. but from what i know, this has happened as early as 2-3 decades ago. turned out my moms brother had a family, went wild and ended everyone in his family at home except for a daughter and a son who was in the military not home during the incident. he went back home to burry everyone but his youngest sister. never got to meet them as far as i know. but yeah… asians do things different than others from what i see
The scenario you just shared has been repeated in countless other ethnicities in the USA.
Thank you for addressing this matter. It is a major issue especially those older generations whose trying to balance between cultures and traditions living in America. Mental issue plays a big part. Sad to hear. Hope for the better new year and happy new year to everyone. Condolences to the victims and their families.
Condolences 🙏.
My heart was heavy waking up reading about this tragedy
there needs to be more done when it comes to mental illness when it comes to the asian communities and in every other community. i lost a few of my asian friends that were mentally ill. the brother of one of the guys that died told me that his father didn't believe in mental help or dealing with his sons depression. i get people want act strong but if someone is hurting they need to be able to get help without being judged. it's sad that these people had to lose their lives by a totally senseless act of violence. the only way to get gun laws in place is by dealing with the nra and voting out any and all politicians that don't want to do anything about the gun laws. the nra and many of the politicians on the right are pushing for more guns to be put out there and it's disgusting.
Some of the strictest gun laws were in place… the dude still got a hold of them. Also one thing to consider… now more than ever people are seeing therapists and psychiatrists, and taking medication to treat mental conditions….People weren’t doing that in the 50s and 60s, and people had a higher gun ownership rate back then… but mass shootings were non existent…. There is something else going on in this country… I can’t really put my finger on it, I have a feeling it has a lot to do with over prescription of meds…
I live on Garvey Ave, so this was about 1.3 miles from my home. If it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. It’s a fairly tight-knit, kind community. Heart-breaking. 😔
When you really think about it, it's not that surprising that it was an older Asian male. This particular demographic probably has it at the very worst right now in America. Asian males have always been valued quite low in Western Society and when you throw in no wife and old age it pretty much makes them worthless in the eyes of western society, I can't think of a particular demographic more ostracized and excluded in Western society than this. He obviously did this because he had nothing to lose & wanted others to feel his pain. Not saying that was rightful justification for his actions, but more into the psychotic reasoning for why he did what he did.
Yes and No. Partially due to his mental health, but you also got to look at the social politics of which he was a part of. Gossip bullying, ridicule, just what was going on between him and the instructors? Including the owners? What about the de-escalation from management to protect their patrons by reporting him to police or having some kind of intervention to address the "friction" that was spoken about. If he was causing problems there, like giving free lessons, how did that bear on the other instructors who were charging? Look around you, there are ticking time bombs walking behind you and to your left and right everyday. Practice diplomacy and put on that kind face, it just may save your life.
But also, actually show people some real love, because everyone is worthy of love and respect, especially the “unlovable”. People see through the kind face and it really doesn’t help
I'm sorry to hear that this tragedy has happened to and within the Asian community.
This sounds like it was a personal vendetta against the dance club and the patrons more than anything. So tragic that it got to this terrible conclusion
More than one…
@@environmentalnews6040 The entire community of dance, perhaps.
This case sounds like domestic violence and has nothing to do with race.
RIP to the victims and prayers to the families
To define a new year's day, first we need to define the calendar. It's not a lunar calendar, it's the Chinese Agricultural Calendar (CAC), Aka Chinese traditional calendar, which is both a lunar and solar calendar. We call it 农历 or 旧历 in Chinese. CAC is the one that has been used for thousands of years. Western calendar was introduced to China only 200 years ago. We still use CAC in China, many national holiday date is determined by CAC, like 中秋，端午，重阳，春节，七夕，冬至. For the Chinese New Year, the lunar side of the calendar determines that this day happens on a new moon day, the solar side of the calendar determines that this day will roughly mark the beginning of spring, which is why it always happens in late January or early February, and that's why it's also called Spring Festival in China. In CAC, one year is divided into 24 portions in relation to the climate.
The common thing about Japan, Korea, Vietnam is they all used Chinese as their writing language for more than a thousand years. Korea and Vietnam invented their own writing system in the last 200 years. Japan gradually developed their own language but they still use a lot of Chinese characters (Kanji). The traditional culture of Korea and Vietnam was from China. I don't think Korean still use traditional calendar, they celebrate the New Year from China just like they also celebrate Christmas from Western culture.
For once we can unapologetically say, "Let's Go Brandon!"
Trump 2024 🇺🇸
@@aldossnow3703 no not that kind
Innocent seniors getting shot is so fg messed up
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. Instead, people rely on calling 911, and bleeding out while waiting 3 minutes for first responders to arrive. “bUt StRiCtEr gUn LaWs” am I right? 😂
The craziest thing is how did the shooter went from SGV to Torrance? I lived in the unincorporated area of LA County for 18 years and I go to Torrance visiting locations for idk reasons. Now it’s very unsettling.
I pray to the victims who were involved in the shooting.
I think this mass shooting is stunning because it's Asian on Asian. Virginia Tech mass shooting (2007) was perpetrated by an Asian. You guys are right, there is mental disability in every culture. Another reason for humanity to pull together. Rest in peace to all the victims. God bless you guys for not shying away from the topic. We need to talk.
If it’s asian it usually is mental /persona;/ retaliation beefs/..
I could not forget the Virginia tech as well. Theres some revenge going on he says his doing it for his brothers and sisters that have hurt as if he's saying it for people like him not his race.
@@npcimknot958 stop making excuses. Every community has a propensity for violence and Asians are not exception.
I'm a white guy, but I'm originally from Monterey Park
This is supposed to be a safe place in LA! It makes me sad that many ppl aren't going think of MP / the SGV as safe anymore
Please put out some helplines numbers for people to call in case they need help to grieve. For example 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Maybe there are some local and national mental health care providers people can reach out to.
This Asian on Asian violence is getting out of control
I am so sad about the whole thing.
Ohh damn. That’s a city where I’m from
Toutes mes condoléances
The death toll went up to 11
I grew up in the 626 in the 90s, other side in Hacienda Heights. I remember Asian gangs was a huge thing back then, is that not really a thing in the area any more?
I remember I used to hear a lot about Asian on Asian shootings and I was always cautious and scared.
This is such tragic news.
I love Brandon Tsay. ❤ He is my hero
such an awful event and the fact that is happened right before lunar new year :( i live in the 626 so this hits too close to home. its insane how we have normalized gun violence in the US
This is why we all need to stay ARMED and be able to defend ourselves. This would've been over real quick if citizens can exercise their #2A rights in this communist state.
My doctor is few blocks away. This is too close to home. Horrible tragedy. The Asian community really needs to talk about mental health. Most of my Asian friends won't even go to a psychiatrist just to get accessed. This is culturally looked down on. I have mental health issues myself n have been in psychological and psychiatrist care since I was a teen. My friend thinks i should stop seeing a pysch. N instead of the medication, diet, excercise, meditation. That's very typical asian.
I get it but there are many that need medical treatment. Psych meds are not a cure. I have 2 issues that i am going to live with n theirs no cure..
Thankfully I'm in treatment but I still have episodes. Even with meds..
If you suffer from mental issues .. getting diagnosed is 90%... then getting treatment.
It took about 20 years to get a correct diagnosed. Before that I was diagnosed major depressive disorder..
All of my family over 65 years old are on Xanax or some meds for depression.
This was preventable. N I've been to that area since college almost daily.
RIP
God bless Brandon Tsay and RIP to all the deciced in this,horrible event🙏
All our loves and bests wishes from Bryan in Lodi NJ
I really agree with both of you guys, when you see the old man was jealous in this case , and didn’t care his life , Also seems he has PTSD ,but the way he used the gun so well and shoot so many people, he must be in army before . Prayers 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 rip for all victims 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Army people seem to have ptsd
@@npcimknot958 Do you think he knew right from wrong? Was it a conscious decision to commit mass murder?
Such sad and heart breaking news. My thoughts and prayers to the affected families and victims. This epidemic of mass shootings in America must end. Too easy to acquire firearms.
have you tried buying a gun in california?
@@basedviet Criminals have ways to bypass it. There are loopholes.
What do you think is the solution?
@@environmentalnews6040 you won’t like the answer
There needs to be tougher gun laws and loopholes that criminals like Huu Can Tran used to obtain illegal guns. The requirements aren’t as tough as buying from a store, if you buy a gun online, at a gun show, and someone could easily go out of state to Nevada. We need registration of gun ownership and must meet criminal background checks and mental health criteria to own a gun. Gun owners should carry insurance like drivers do.
This incident has me twisted! RIP
It's even more surprising that the shooter is in his seventies....What forced him to do this ?
The police have yet to find the “motive.” Someone thinks it’s because he didn’t get an invite to the Lunar New Year party.
let's do better. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!!!
I don't know why the news media didn't let Chief Jeremiah Hart, the Chief of the Torrance Police Department talk at the briefing. There were too many political people there speaking at the news conference. Hart's officers stopped the perp.
Bro there was just another shooting in the SF Bay area! and it was by another old asian man who then turned himself in.
Sad.. rip
brandon tsay - hero
Let's go Brandon!
For once we can say it without shame, haha!
@@accordiongordon lol we're repurposing it as a rallying cry!
Can people stop saying that phrase? This is a mass shooting, not a football game.
@@environmentalnews6040 Another mass shooting just now. We're getting desensitized. Maybe we need to think about gun reform. but who cares bc 2nd amendment is protected than abortion.
New Laws for Gun Control !!!!!Are much needed !!seriously !!