Jupiter's Legacy Netflix SPOILER Review - Ending Explained, Difference from Comics
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- Jupiter's Legacy Review today! Beyond The Trailer's reaction & breakdown SPOILERS! Ending Explained! Season 1! Different from comics! Netflix 2021!
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Jupiter's Legacy REVIEW today with SPOILERS! Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph's reaction and review of the full season one of Jupiter's Legacy on Netflix with spoilers! Ending explained! What is the difference from the Mark Millar comic book? How about that Island, and the 1929 origin story? Share your own reaction now that you've seen each full episode of Jupiter's Legacy on Netflix in 2021! And be sure to make Beyond The Trailer your first stop for movie and entertainment news here on UA-cam today!
CHAPTER TIMES
Pretty Divisive - 00:00
Why Some Didn't Enjoy - 00:24
Different From Comic - 1:09
Not Classic Movie Fans - 2:06
Lack of Diversity - 4:00
Why I Loved It - 5:40
1st Episode Not Great - 5:45
1929 Storyline - 6:35
Maybe Casting a Problem? - 7:30
Sheldon's Visions - 8:25
Sheldon, Walter & George - 8:58
The Final Test - 10:16
The Island Adventure - 11:36
Modern Day Storyline - 12:44
The Superhero Code - 12:58
Super Max Prison - 15:45
Utopian Therapy Sessions - 16:40
Brainwave Plan Bad & Good - 17:49
Hutch & Chloe - 20:48
More George & Fitz Please - 21:55
Conclusion - 24:10
Interact with host & creator Grace Randolph!
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I’d say the 1929 scenes were my favorite scenes.
That part only got interesting for me once they hit Morroco and were preparing to go on the boat. My mind wandered a lot during the stock market crash drama. Just wasn't my cup of tea. ☕
100%
I fast forwarded all the scenes with the spoilt brat daughter. But it was still rubbish.
Same, but i feel like the present day is just a build up to season 2
I enjoyed the 1920's storyline more than I did the superhero stuff
Same and Im the biggest fucking superhero fan !
Same. The flashbacks were the best part of the show.
Same
Same
So did I. The only thing I liked about the current storyline was Hutch. If not for him and the stuff he was doing, I would'nt have liked the superhero stuff at all.
They almost seemed like 2 different shows. The 1920's stuff was actually good, while the current superhero stuff came off like a CW/SyFy show.
Also: Sheldon & co. come off as much more interesting people in the past. In the present they're bad superheroes and even worse parents.
100%
how are they worse parents. the daughter acts like a privileged spoilt brat.
@@ashleyfairway.540 because Sheldon wasn't there during their entire childhood, and was extremely controlling over her. The show wants us to believe that's why she's spoiled.
@@pacosoentken303 how can he not be there and controlling at the same time? she is privileged not having a job. you can fast forward all the scenes she is in and still follow the show.
@@ashleyfairway.540 pretty much, I’m not trying to defend the shows reasoning, that was pretty much what was happening
I would assume George didn't turn evil but was framed by Walter.
in hq george became the che guevara of superheros, its why the others call him a villain in the show
-The father is too cheesy.
-Daughter is just absolutely annoying.
-Son always moody.
-Conversations are too soap opera like.
-CGI is absolutely abhorrent.
Side note, I love classic films.
About the diversity quota though, couldn't care less really. That's about it. Can't wait for The Boys 3 though, let's go!!
Right; This show look so Cheap
The effects were really bad
Spot on....!
I actually agree because I didn't like any of the characters
The daughter annoyed me too
The problem:
•quality of the fights, suites, action, and powers were too power ranger-ish
•1920's storyline being random flashbacks instead of its own standalone episodes
• modern story having small scope, rushed storylines, and not utilizing younger team
@Lenz C dude..are you blind..how can you compare the vfx of Boys to this crappy show
@Lenz C the VFX on the BOYS LOOKS WAY BETTER. The first fight looked so stupid, idk how people can just proudly release it
@Lenz C the vfx become more horrendous when coupled with bad choreography.
@@Zenith9669 So true. Lady liberty should of flew right threw purple electro instead she does a wired spin punch. It's was so bad.
@@kouaxiong7070 you and the main comment hit the nail on the head.
Grace’s taste in movies never ceases to amaze me
The biggest issue for me was how much the characters argued with each other. I get that this conflict is central to the story, but it just felt like everyone hated each other. It made it difficult for me to care about the characters and their relationships because the show started off on such a sour note.
Not only didn't like each other but didn’t like the people they had become. The original six lacked the wisdom you would have expected living through two human lifetimes. Some of the greatest changes in modern history happened on their watch and they decided they only wanted to inspire the human race?!? World Wars are cool as long as heroes don’t kill anybody and get involved. Really!?!
I for one felt like the timing was not the best. Given that Invincible had just finished recently, which is also about a Superman type and his son struggling to live up to his father. And black star was a lot like the Mauler twins. Made me feel like “hey didn’t I watch this already?”
Yeah it's bad timing, but it's also a show that doesn't do anything new or exciting to distinct itself from other superheroes genre shows/movies. Like seriously what do they do new or different within that first episode that I haven't seen done better before?
When you said Superman type and his son. It's like the Superman and Lois show with Superman and his sons
I just finished Invincible comic, and now other superhero material seems bland to me unfortunately.
No I have to disagree I think it's exactly what we need it since Invincible ended and yes they're dealing with daddy issues but there is a whole lot more subplot going on
Lol same I had just finished Invincible and couldn't get into this at all
For me the show had a higher budget CW feel
Yes it was very dramatic over everthing.
YES! I wish the main issue in the present day was more like dire. They kept whining about thE COde but you barely saw it's impact. All it did was show how dumb it was in the first place, they should've made the plot be about Hutch and Skyfox about to take over the city or something
exactly
It's because of all she said why some people didn't care for it.
People like that goofy boys campy stuff.
Exactly, but without the tongue in cheek goofy fun 22 episodes.
None of the flashbacks serve to establish anything going on in the present timeline. The problem with this series is that everything is very disconnected.
I honestly thought we were going to get a twist that the present was just a fever dream of 1929 Josh Dummel, because the two time periods were so disconnected.
Not true in my opinion. The past served to get to know how the characters were before becoming gods and how they interacted. It's clear where some of the conflict is coming from, for example, in the triangle between the 2 brothers and George...
the 1920's stuff was the real story line... the rest of the show literally DRAAAAAAAAAGED and rehashed over and over....
The entire present day stuff was like maybe 4 days
I've only watched the first episode, but that final fight scene irked me. Blackstar looks like a straight up rubber suit Power Ranger monster of the week. Paragon killed him because he was going nuclear, and without even letting the scene breathe The Utopian just starts in on his son! AND just how was he supposed to hurl him into space if his father couldn't even do it?! It was such a frustratingly forced dilemma.
I don't think the cast is the issue. There is some over acting in the dinner scene and then the friend at the bar, but overall likeable performances from the main cast. Guess I'll power through the rest of the season.
Seeing Netflix doing things with other superheroes... Do you think DC could do something with The Authority for HBOMax?
Authority, yes please!
"It was such a frustratingly forced dilemma"
Sums up the show really
Blackstar killed a superhero as well and they brushed it off in 2 seconds. Didnt even mention her after the fight was over
One thing the show didn't clearly point out is that Brainwave is much more powerful than he lets on. He's been deceiving Sheldon for years that he can't read his mind, while at the end he was even able to project himself, while physically being with his daughter
Could also have done one right before the other. I wasn't sure if he was projecting or it was simply two different time lines.
His character to me was an obvious rip off of Professor Xavier from the X-men and they put the black hero in a wheel chair for what to make a handi-capable character as a secondary nod to Xavier, but failed to show his full story arc.
It makes no sense when all of them acquired the ability to fly from the very beginning and his powers were light rays, which means that he still should have been able to function as a hero on missions so long as he never landed.
That scene with Brainwave and the clone villain fighting in the mindscape was inspired by X-men Apocalypse battle between Xavier and Apocalypse and that line "Your in my world now!" is the exact same line spoken by Xavier.
This show was struggling to be original, but tried too hard by copying old tropes and super heroes from other comics.
Really felt like an attempt to recreate The Watchmen and Invincible.
Maybe it should have been a cartoon series first to develop and build a fan base before jumping to a real world drama?
He can’t read sheldons mind ,watch it again, they just cut between 2 different scenes.
@@timsartistic7328 how did it copy invincible when it was being made (for tv) before invincible. Invincible just to happen to come out before it
@@timsartistic7328 actually, that "Brainwave and the clone villain fighting in the mindscape was inspired by X-men Apocalypse battle "; it's not like the show ripped that off the x-men, the comic had brainwave compartmentalising his target's psyche like twice... maybe more... and it seems like that's what he is quite good at
Did I miss something about the 20's flashbacks that makes an appreciation for classic cinema necessary to enjoy them? Because from what I experienced, they're not done in that style or in a way that pays homage to classic cinema. The only thing it has in common with classic Hollywood cinema, is the time period.
Yeah, strangely, this aspect of Grace's analysis doesn't track at all. Let's use a movie from the era where people go to a mysterious island: 1933's King Kong. Can anyone say that the flashbacks on this show look or feel like anything from that movie?
The 1929 stuff is nothing like classic film. First of all classic films don’t even acknowledge the Great Depression, because films were an escape from the dire situation of real life.
The 1929 stuff was more like a modern retelling of a Lovecraft inspired horror story.
RIGHT SHE IS MUST BE SMOKING CRYSTAL METH. NOTHING IDK WHY SHE SAID THAT
Jupiter's Legacy reminded me of an edgier and grittier Sky High. Looking forward to season 2. Josh Duhamel's best performance to date. I've never been a huge fan of his, until now that is. Him, Matt Lanter, and the guy that plays Brainwave are fantastic in this show. If you love superheroes, the series deserves at least a single viewing all the way through.
I just finished bingeing the whole season.
I thought it was ok, but not as great as I was hoping.
I think what stood out to me the most is that they dragged out the story way too much. It wasnt even that many episode, but I feel like it could have been shorter.
It took so long for them to get to the island, and then wrapped up the island very quickly.
And by the end a big part of the main story was just "to kill or not to kill" and some of it got very repetitive.
I think what I enjoyed most were the individual characters and what they were doing, not the over arching plot.
I agree ... if the story needed to last this much in 8 episodes... I wished it had been 13 episodes so they could shown at least some events that happened after 1929 and the present. Now a big chunk of the past still needed to be shown ... plus the events that still need to happens if they are following some events from the comics.
I actually felt that the present storyline was lackluster bc it lacked an overarching plot. I wanted more world building because it really felt like small super hero scenes then philosophical talking for a majority of the time
@@xXRagingInfernoXx Very true, especially in comparison to the VERY single minded plot of the 1920's of figuring out the visions.
Agree, should've split the series between the 2 timelines. 4 episodes for the past, 4 episodes for the modern story.
@@zaneomega2 I like your idea
The Code is the true antagonist of the season as a whole.
That is a good point. What kind of idiot let's his people die to save the bad guys. That is insane. What happens to society when the villains kill off the Supes? Gotta be worse than society with some dead baddies.
Completely agree.
yes and that's a real problem when it is broadcast at a time with so many unjustified police killings it's hard to sustain the prallels between supes and cops in real life in America today. Who decides who is worthy to live or die?
@@jclebourdais10 in real life I don't think that is the question. The bigger problem is the lack of consequences. Bad stuff happens but there has to be a price.
This! Like why not have a self defense clause? It's so weird.
To paraphrase Goliath from Gargoyles , “ To kill in the heat of battle is fair, to kill just for fun or pleasure is murder”
George didn't design the teleportation rod, they say that Richard was given it when they got their powers. Not sure why it passed to George's son though.
We never see what happened to Richard. I'm wondering if Richard joined with George and maybe gave the rod to Hutch before he died or something (if he is dead).
In the books, George actually made the rod while his son was watching an episode of the Real Ghostbusters, but he made it based off of Richard's design because Hutch said that Blue Bolt was his favorite superhero. In otherwords, in the comics, the rod is a duplicate of some sort.
@@MrColuber This! In the show they seemed to have changed that the son got the original rod...but then again maybe this IS the duplicate rod and we will only learn the truth later. I really wished they would change stuff more; the Blackstar stuff was good but it ended up just being 'Its Brainwave all along"
MASSIVE SPOILER FOR FINAL SEASON AHEAD!!!!!!!
I really hope Skyfox doesn't go out the way he did in the comics though, or that he goes out at all. That was pretty crap.
Isn't it obvious why this show will fail? I mean, just look at the production value. This isn't acceptable in 2021.
I can't say that I hate it but I want my hours back.
I am with u on that
Ouch queen lol
Yep that’s why I’m hesitant to take on certain shows... you can’t get that time back lol
it was watchable (I guess), maybe for rainy day watching.
@Kim Taeyeon same
When Hutch displayed the rods full potential by teleportation that henchman away and killing the boss, I was in straight awe lol. Very memorable scene and probably my favorite.
Hutch was one of the few great characters in the present day
Same!!!!! I’m a little bias though because Ian is one of my really close friends
I don’t think it’s diversity. The MCU got away with it for over a decade before Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
Shark infested water !!
Hmmm, could this be too OP, like could he say "on top of a grave in which is buried loads of money"
@@vashthafellomen816 Well my comment said nothing about diversity soooo idk why you felt compelled to say that when i’m not the one that mentioned diversity, she is 🥴😂
take a shot every time Grace says "classic" u will be lit
You’ll be levitating by the 5min mark
The Godfather part two worked with its split timeline because it was PART TWO. Part one introduced the audience to the Corleone family, so we were interested in knowing the back story. We don't know the characters from this series so we aren't as invested.
Godfather part 2 was also made in 1974 - of course no one complained about the lack of diversity - that wasn't a thing then - practically NO movies had diversity!
I disagree. Here it works because watching old heroes the main thing is to think about their youth.
@@scottcoz movies didn't start getting diverse until the blaxpotation movies started making major money after the godfather movies....Hollywood noticed.
They did the same thing Arrow did. I don’t see the issue.
Exactly. Godfather 2 was made 50 years ago. To an entire generation of people...IT is considered a classic movie
I wish they would have broken down the story into two parts. The first four being the past the second four being the present. Therefore the past story has payoff and we then get to see how much has changed. Then they can dive into each character and their potential for Legacy. It's just too all over the place.
The origin story could have been condensed to one episode
Agree 100%.
It was our first Superhero Soap Opera. If you ever watched Dallas, Dynasty or Falcon Crest. That’s what this was. I enjoyed it for what it was.
First superhero soap opera? I'm pretty sure most of the Arrowverse end up being a soap opera, because that's a cheaper way to fill time than superhero stuff (and it's on cables, so it's all about filling as much time as you can).
The stuff in past felt like a completely different show to the present.
For me the show felt way too slow and not especially compelling as a character study, even after 8 episodes I felt like I didn't became attach with any of them, and their struggles are all things we've seen multiple times in media at this point. The story at the end felt more like a prologue than an actual full season of tv.
and why did Chloe have no arc ☠️. Are we supposed to be moved by a crackhead who doesn't even want to do good. They should've taken the Klaus route with her
I didn't feel like rooting for anyone.
@@Goonztz The Klaus route?
@@Goonztz what's the Klaus route
@@eduardopantoja9115 umbrella academy, a lowlife with an arc
If I was a supervillian I wouldn't mind being caught they're treated very nice in the Super Max Prison. . Big windows, lots of space and I'm allowed to bring personal furniture and belongings to decorate.
Yeah their villains are really treated well in jail, why would anyone want to escape from a life of free bills and total comfort?🙃
Exactly why Ren tried to get himself arrested in Ren & Stimpy
True and you have little to no consequences especially with the Code being a thing
The actor playing the son has the charisma of a brick. I didnt like the show. Just an ok from me too many plot holes
I didnt connect with the father daughter and son.
Was rooting more for Walter George Hutch and Fitz
I just wanted explanation why the other characters beyond the original 6 had powers and where they came from. Why Sheldon didn't cut his hair anymore, why they had kids so late in life and why they didn't have more kids to create more heroes, to help out. If Millar's comic has very graphic violence, then this series would be similar to Invincible series on Amazon, which is also extremely graphic violent comic hero and came out this year. With that and The Boys, it seems weird that it's ok to show extreme violence but other things are still taboo, like showing skin. A proper clear shot showing the older heroes damaged skin would have told how hard the decades of fighting super villains had been. Also, if the six have decades of fighting experience, they should be better fighters, have team up moves etc. Instead they fought pretty basic
I felt the first ep was one of the weakest, and the whole Sheldon madness storyline was a bit drawn out and tedious. It took them too long to figure out it was trial and seemingly no one questions who/what gave them powers and why. There was just too many unanswered questions.
I dont think the comic has explained the other characters powers beyond the 6 yet after 3 Volumes so hopefully the show eventually does that.
A lot of those questions and who gave them their powers in the comics havent been answered yet.
Mark Miller said in his interview with Grace he still has 250 pages to go to complete the story.
Even though its not explained in the comics yet. I got the feeling that others in the world got powers when the original 6 did. When you watch the show and see the original 6 get there powers you see a wave of light go out over the horizon and hit the crew on the boat. I even looks like the crew was absorbing something like powers maybe.
@@jasonbronson672 lol Exactly! I was gonna say look the scene when a “wave of energy” seemed to have spread out from the island and reach the people at the boat ... we got to see something going into their skin! Maybe the wave continued on to reach more people? But only those in the boat and through the decades would be enough to generate some power individuals... probably would water down through generations though.
All of this 🙌🏼✨
My main problem was that the show was just boring. The majority of it was just talking and walking and it just wasn’t engaging. I would’ve preferred the show mainly being about Chloe dealing with the reality of being a superhero who doesn’t want to live up to the status of her parents but can’t escape their presence anywhere she goes because of who she is. To me that would’ve been a much better main plot instead of the whole ridiculous “code” plotline where literally every character except Utopian says it’s complete BS…….
I wish the origin story had its own episodes. It served little purpose to flash back and forward five times an episode.
I agree, I felt like the origin story kinda dragged throughout the season, when it could've been told in less episodes.
yes. too long too slow typical netflix flaws, like Daredevil or Iron Fist before.
The origin story felt really pointless, it should have taken up way less time instead of ignoring every plot thread they establish in the final 1min of each episode
Agree, split the season in 2. 4 episodes for each era.
While I prefer the Arrow approach- shorter flashbacks that connect to the main storyline. Episodes 3 and especially 4 were so useless for the overall story, that I guess you can just replace them with the origin story and tell it over 2 episodes. It'd still feel weird, but at least a bit better than what episodes 3 and 4 actually were.
Just finished the series. I think the origin story of the original 6 is the better part of the series. There's so much late 2000s CW-ish angst on the present time especially when Chloe is on screen. Brandon screams WB/CW pre-Arrow to me lol.
The whole code thing in the present day is so dumb to me. They're literally getting picked off one by one and still refuse to kill. 4 young Union members died in 8 episodes and they killed 1 villain, and even then, it's a clone. That's like joining the army to fight a war without a gun.
They focused the entire season 1 on the most unlikable main character I've seen so far in any superhero movie. Utopia is so set in his way and won't listen to anyone with differing opinion. He refuse to learn people's names and can only recall people by their superhero name.
You kinda want someone to root for in a superhero series and ideally, that should be the main hero. It's hard to root for anyone in this series except the smaller side characters who barely have any screen time asking for help from the Union's leadership about amending the stupid code that's getting them and their friends killed. It's exhausting to watch them suffer.
Amazon understood the assignment in how to carve out a space for The Boys in a Marvel/DC world. Somehow Netflix missed the mark. This just doesn’t feel like it can compete quality wise considering HBO Max is offering SnyderCut and Disney is offering cinematic MCU content. Do better Netflix
I think that Invincible is starting to prove that maybe certain comics should be cartoons instead of real life adaptation and vice versa.
Or they should just be books and nothing else.
@@jclebourdais10 Well Cartoons you can capture more of the writers imagination. For example, to capture Invincible in a real life adaptation would of be extremely watered down cause of budget restraint. Animation you really have no limits. Some of these lesser known graphic novels should probably be told as cartoons first and then adapted into movies. I got to be careful watching Invincible spoilers cause it feels like the cartoon is capturing all the essence of the comic book.
@@anthonygordon9483 Well it depends on the budget that the studio is willing to give and honestly I don't think Invincible would work in love action
@@anthonygordon9483 makes sense. I reread the whole invincible series before the show and I was still surprised by the way they changed some things and rearranged others. But you're right, the fact it is a cartoon makes a difference in the way we perceive the points it makes about society.
@@jclebourdais10 Show adaptations always twist the plot line but so far most of the events have been pretty accurate. I don't even watch spoilers for the comic book because of it. I've never read the comic book but I definitely would of known how the season ended if I did
Matt Lanter is amazing in Jupiters Legacy
He was probably the stand-out
@@awesimo4684 he and Ben Daniels (who played Walter Sampson/Brainwave) are basically the ones who carried the show!!!
Brainwave made a “joke” about taking over the world in a flashback scene. It appeared obvious who was the mastermind. No pun intended.
Yeah but that joke was in like ep7 or the season finale
I knew when it seemed like Walter was holding back in the first main battle. After watching the finale we now know why
I tried to watch and I got past the 1st episode but only made it like a minute into the 2nd episode and just gave up. It didn't really pull me in
I literally did the same exact thing! I tried desperately to like it, but there wasn't anything different to distinct itself from other superhero genre shows / movies. Not an interesting story and not interesting characters to warrant me to watch the rest.
You guys didn’t miss much. The first season pretty much just sums up to everyone hates the code and trust no one. That’s it
@@peaceoutandgoodbye having read the comics this really do take a dramatic turn. I'm still watching the show so I dont know if it will have the exact same ending.
The first comic volume rushed the ending I'm glad this is slowing it down and building towards it.
@@twistedcastles3613 Is the first season of the show more of a prequel to the comics? I haven't read the comic or watched the show.
@@MaxIronsThird it’s a mix of 2 different comics Jupiter’s Legacy (present day) & Jupiter’s Circle (past)
The season didn’t have the energy it needed to have but I still thoroughly enjoyed it. I definitely need my season 2
Not every superhero property NEEDS to be high energy.
They literally killed every Asian character in the first season.
To me, this series is right on par with the stuff we get out of the Berlanti-verse, and maybe even not as good as that. I thought the costumes were weak and the effects unimpressive for the most part. Worst of all, the pacing of the show was WAY too slow. Maybe the could've explored some of those other storylines you were talking about if they had tightened up the ones they dragged out in these 8 episodes, Grace. Lastly, the "cliffhanger" was uninspiring and just made the series feel incomplete. My one word review >> YAWN.
This show felt like a D- movies and i was at least expecting a B- feeling 😩😅
I agree, I had Invincible and The Boys level expectations and got a Long version of Batman vs Superman film
@@eduardopantoja9115 ahhh no, BvS had an amazing soundtrack, amazing fight scenes, and awesome looking costumes.... This had cw budget fights and costumes
I think the code argument had similarities to the cap/ironman divide when it comes to superhero accountability. The problem with the code is its hypocritical for utopian to expect every lesser hero to adhere to it as stringently as he can. Utopian can afford to take hits if he hesitates or takes time to capture a villian. These other heros though like ghost beam, one hit from the villians they are fighting could kill them, they dont have the luxury of holding back in a long fight as it will and does lead to their deaths and the potential deaths of many other innocents. The code is an ideal but is not always realistic which i think the show explains very well, and its restriction on governing is definitely a positive aspect. Its easy to see why the younger heros become so jaded.
And they kill utopian for that....
@@user-mo1xj2jx6o utopians not dead?
Its telling that no one thought to make this argument with Utopian- seems like a natural point for Grace to make, especially after she kills the purple energy guy.
"Walter George, you gotta let things go."
"Done, no problem"
That scene was so funny and weird. How can saying that suddenly make them "let things go" between them? They didn't even talk or anything, so it's not like anything really changed. And considering what we learn by the end of the finale, it's clear that Walter never really "let things go". So how did it even work?!
Also, when they talk about who they want to see the most, and then they literally see them 10 minutes later. It's not impactful to set something up and then immidiately use it. And even the setup felt weird.
Wall: "Looks good to me. Can't foresee any problems here."
I felt they did let it go...for awhile. That's why the Wall accepted them. But later, something(maybe George going bad) made that resentment come back later. At least, that's how I make sense of it. .
@@supercode2825 And this setup is really bad for the format of the show. If they had 4 episodes of the 1920ies and 4 episodes of modern day, this would have been okay. Right now we have: flashback: Walt and Sheldon put aside their differences and the magic wall confirmed it for us. Return to the present: Walt hates Sheldon. If there were multiple episodes between the two scenes we could have had the buildup of Walt groaning at Sheldon and growing more and more frustrated with him again. The way they did it in the show did not work.
@@supercode2825
1) Even so, a moment before the wall Walter hated his brother. How is someone else saying "you have to let it go" going to make him suddenly forgive him?
2) In the last flashback, we see Walter making a joke about controlling the world. At that point George didn't turn evil, and it was meant to be a foreshadowing to Walter's secret intentions. Mabye it's something that the brother told Walter in the restaurant that made Walter go bad, I don't know.
my hopes and expectations for a season 2.
1. 10 episodes no more or less
2. strengthen the plot a little more without becoming too mundane
3. special effects needs to be improved and individualized
4. answer all of the strayed questions we all had in season 1
Don't you think focus on younger crew would be better too? I never read the comics, but Brandon's story is interesting. As is George's son's story, not that we got any of it!
I think it's a good enough show to warrant a second season. It can become a great show with some adjustments.
major adjustments: better VFX, better and more dire plot, more character development, better moral. I felt them saying that having too much morality was bad was just a weird concept. They should've took the Invincible route
That’s the problem. You lose people because you’re obviously leaving stuff for the second season. And what if it doesn’t happen? Then it’s a monumental waste of time.
@@Goonztz do you think The Boys has morals? Lol
Lol the lack of diversity wasn’t a problem. Trust.
Moody conversation does not equal action, fun, excitement, thrills, and basically anything I look for in a superhero tale.
But those things aren’t the only things a superhero show can be. Please let superhero shows grow and evolve. Let them do more things
@@ikexbankai Doing moody conversation and taking out those things is LESS, not more.
What a fucking waste of time then. Go watch marvel movies, but don't watch WandaVision. And for the love of God, never in your life try to see Watchmen. You're gonna destroy it.
Let the superhero genre grow and become something more than just action ...
@@Nemo.404 WandaVision earned everything it was in movies prior to the show. It also had fun, thrills, and excitement from the very first episode. Your selective reading of my comment is as bare and wanting as Jupiter's Legacy.
@@PhiphthVyoo the only thing you are saying is "moody conversation." Like, I'm not being selective, you aren't saying nothing.
About WandaVision, tons of people hated it because it wasn't the stereotypical marvel product packed with action and excitement. Tons of fans couldn't dig the twilight zone style.
Jupiter's legacy did a great job. Pacing was off in most of the 4th episode, and a bit in like the 5th and 6th. But mostly action, acting, plot, and twist were done pretty well. While it still feels familiar, it has a chance to offer some good points for the genre. Most amazing scene is the one were the cop says he would put in line the criminals and pop their heads, just exactly proving the point on how fucked up everything is. Brainwave being the villain was s great plot twist, and they showed how mental he is and how far he is willing to go. Character evolve greatly, we hate who we must hate. And yeah, some of the other characters had issues, but anyway, there are tons of'em, hopefully they can get more screen time later on.
Now this is giving an argument, not just telling "moody conversation", that is nothing
Coders be like "just arrest Thanos lol :s"
Bwahahaha!
I was expecting it to be on the same levels of Warchmen, The Boys or even Umbrella Academy, and that's because it had Steven DeKnight involved. Whilst it fell short of those levels, I did still like it, but it was just so uneven at times. And the CGI/VFX looked very CW-ish, and given how movie quality Umbrella Academy looks, particularly season 2, I was kinda shocked. It's a solid C+ first season for me.
I watched it Yesterday all episodes ! Not because the show interesting just because Grace highliy recommended it But honestly now I regret my time wasted to watch this show. It was really bad like that BAD.
You knew that Brainwave was the villain from the beginning. TV shows don't just not features scenes with the main villain.
Naw I did not 😭😭
LITERALLY FROM THE BEARD AND THE SUIT. It was literally a trope that they didn’t break from at all.
@@TheDevos1 you will learn, young padewan.
Yes, also the villain ALWAYS show up in the series, is not in the shadows all the episodes...
@@Hobosdkcheese Brainwave's beard looked 1000x better than the Utopian's.
Jupiters Legacy is what Heroes 2006 tv series supposed to look like back in the day, Heroes + Lost kindda.
Yeo heroes season 1 is still goated
I loved this show because its different while being a deconstruction of the golden age of comic book lore, mainly its ideals. Showing us how the Utopian is a battered and failed version of himself struggling to adapt to the modern age. I hope Jupiter's Legacy gets a second season.
The show never established what it was like when they first got their powers, so this contrast doesn’t even exist.
@@DanielEvanClarke Its because he's still living in his 1920s world, the code is a reflection of that and it's that attempt to hold on to that world which is what's been his undoing. The Code doesn't just represent The Union's moral compass but Sheldon's state of being.
@@ryanbobadilla2527 from what we see of the 1920’s in the show, that doesn’t seem to be how it was. In fact he only adopted that ideal in right before they arrived at the island.
I think it's the TV tv show quality of costumes and effects not what we are accustom to. I loved the story line and twist at the end
Shows like The Boys have cheesy costumes but the rest of the show is fine and people don’t care
This costumes are worse than the ones in the Boys, and the effects too
The boys had more of a cinematic feel despite the costumes that's why it passes. But Jupiter's legacy had more of a made for TV feel. But the show was great to me had no problem with the acting etc.
Felt like an adult power rangers
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Especially when they put their hands on the wall and different colors started glowing
New drinking game, drink everytime Grace says the word “Classic films” 😂😂😂
I kept waiting to feel something but I didn't the entire season!
I think they should have done this show in animation. the live action fight scenes looked cheap like youtube level effects
Animation doesn’t look “better” we just don’t care as much when it is drawings… but that’s the appeal of live action, seeing these big concepts but for real, only that it is harder of course.
Yeah here and there the flying effects had me like ehhh idk about that. I really liked Hutch with the teleporting rod. So damn dope and wish we saw way more of it in action. When he displayed its full potential by teleportation that henchman away and killing the boss, I was in straight awe lol. Very memorable scene and probably my favorite
I agree, the biggest problems with this show are: 1) the underutilized characters, and 2) all the unanswered plot questions. They should've added a couple more episodes to fill in some of the gaps. I hope there will be a season 2.
the 8 episodes were already too long, I wouldn't ask more episodes, In fact I would ask them to reduce it to maybe like 4 episodes. I watched 1st episode, 2nd episode beginning, fast forwarded most of it, saw the ending of the 7th episode and then watched the 8th episode. I can already guess how they would probably end the 2nd season.
Nooo .. I agree the show needed 13 episodes to move on to season with less baggage then necessary. Now there still a lot to be resolve from the past ... and all the things still to happen when they are supposed to build up the big turn out of the story
@@alexmathayes1 So you basically skipped most of the show.
Maybe it's because I tried to watch this just after finishing Invincible, but I just felt like I could be watching something better the whole time I was trying to power though this show.
I agree, after watching Invincible and the Boys, I had expectations that it would be at the same level but gave up after episode 4
what makes invincible better than this, if i may know.
I really can't compare it to either of those shows (which I really enjoyed). It is it's own thing (which I also enjoyed).
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Focus and pacing. Invincible is the main character of all 8 episodes. There are some side-stories, but Invincible is in at least half of the episode.
In Jupiter's Legacy, that's not the case. Episode 3 is mostly Hutch, episode 4 is mostly Chloe. The only character that consistently shows up is 1929 Sheldon, which feels very different from Utopian.
Jupiter's Legacy is unbalanced and confusing. Hutch and Chloe have no impact on the show after their solo episodes. And because the present storyline doesn't have enough time, it feels rushed and undeveloped.
That's my main problem with Jupiter's Legacy. I can also point out having only 2-3 action scenes in a superhero show, but I forgive The Boys for some bad fight scenes because of the great story. And The Boys also has focus. The main characters are Hughie and Starlight. The theme is what makes a person good or bad, a "superhero".
Maaaaan I wanted Walter's daughter to live and take him down that would have been an epic storyline
Nah, she was a bad character. Only talking about money and how much she should have asked for.
@@MrBrainFreeze yeah she came off as too cheesy
I really liked the flashback scenes. If they removed all the modern day scenes and the show was just about how they got their powers, it would have been a great show. I really dislike the daughter character (I didn't even care to remember her name). Brandon character was so boring. The teleportation dude was cool. Grace Sampson seemed very bland untill the scene where she started questioning the code herself, after that she became more interesting. The young supporting characters were so forgetful.
And I agree with you. Maybe the casting could have been better. Let's hope we get a season two and it doesn't turn into just another generic super hero show.
I've always struggled with batmans moral code because it always ends with the villian escaping and killing loads more people . So an entire season of superheroes with the same moral code nearly drove me insane .
The thing about Batman, is that the moment he were to start killing his villains, he wouldn't be able to stop bc at the end of the day, he's just as crazy as they are.
@@MaxIronsThird that may be true but still a shitty excuse .I mean if he's killing literal mass murderers, terrorists, genocidal maniacs etc but still protecting the innocent then he's no different to a soldier . I get trial by court and what not but say a supervillain is near immortal they will just wait out their sentence and then return to killing people 🤷🙃.
I get that and also have those same issues with the no kill rule but that is what makes Batman "Batman". Also most superheroes have this same moral code not just Batman. Those times where even his own allies question his moral code are great. Or where even he questions it. If he did kill he would be a way less interesting character imo. He would be the Punisher and the Punisher for the most part becomes a stale character over time because you know what he's gonna do. There is no moral dilemma. Batman also thinks that EVERYONE can be saved even the villains which ultimately makes him insane. That's more intriguing to me than him just offing everybody. But I completely understand your point though.
Dexter was more of a hero than Batman. He saved lots of lives. 😁
Yeah but they actually addressing it here whereas in dc the heroes still for the most part follow the no kill code.
I also hated that it referenced current events, things are so bad in the world right now that I don’t need to be reminded of it in escapism entertainment.
Thus why the world won't progress because people like this can't handle reality and make changes. Art makes statements to change the world get over it.
I'm willing to give this show one more season
but they need to turn this ship AROUND. It could've been so good, but it should've been more of the children's perspective vs the parents. Hutch had the best storyline, and then it just stopped randomly halfway through, like what?
How would you feel if it didn’t get a
Second season? That’s the problem.
@Aspen Formentera Same, would love a second season but wouldn't be bother if it didn't.
@@harosa true, I’m not gonna miss it.
I think the show is a solid C. It’s good background show while doing something else.
I was excited when the superhero team fight started until I saw the poor fight choreography and cheap effects. And clearly the characters we followed didn’t go into the field on screen because of budgeting. Also I didn’t see what made the original 6 so special and worthy. Why them? I could tell Walt was a bad guy a mile away but he was still found worthy to be given powers? Also are all the super powered people descendants of the original 6? Only one woman on the original team?
I think it's a decent show but the guy who plays Brandon is legitimately one of the worst actors I've ever seen
I can't tell if it was the writing or the acting but man that character could have been replaced with a cardboard cut out
He was god awful...
I thought they made it clear with the flashback in the last episode that the doctor was given the power rod from the aliens. Now the real question is how did Skyfox's son get it?
That's a different rod that skyfox made not the original one. The guy is a mechanial/engineering genius.
That long, creepy superhero origin story felt like something that Stephen King would come up with.
Loved it
He killed his daughter like bruh. Great character until his last act. I was what the fuck.
He could have just locked her up
They did incline that they can reach anyone mentally, so if she had gotten locked up she could've called out to the others and exposed her father to them.
I didn’t know anything about the comics going in and I loved it. ❤️🤍❤️🤍Utopian
Wasn’t the casting why this series was bad it was the hold story line, lots of stuff in this series was bad
For me I think it was the how did they get their powers that drag for literally the entire season, it could’ve been done in 2 max 3 episodes, and so we weren’t able to actually relate to most of the characters, this felt like Utopian’s story and not the union’s, I do believe that if people get to the season finale they would appreciate it and hopefully makes season 2 happen , but am not sure
i never heard of ben daniels before but i definitely felt he was the strongest actor in the show
He’s a British actor! He’s been a regular Netflix fixture for quite some time now - he was Claire Underwood’s lover in House of Cards, and he also played Princess Margaret’s husband Lord Snowdon in The Crown (Matthew Goode played his younger version). Ben is mostly known on West End and Broadway, but he’s done some great TV and films too - The Exorcist (very underrated show), Law and Order UK, and played General Merrick in Rogue One!
Ben Daniels was definitely my favorite actor on the show
Brilliant actor
He was in "The Crown"
Matt Lanter was surprisingly good. I wasn’t expecting the Anakin VA to look the part as well as nail his character.
I was more invested with 1920 storyline than the present storyline.
We’re so groomed to expect such a sensational superhero show that when this wasn’t about how intense in got, and more about the rules heroes follow, people were upset.
It’s less about the superheroes and more about what makes them different from the villains. The rules or codes they follow and how that shapes them.
One of my favorite parts of this show was watching Paragon’s journey to acceptance of the Codes and his understanding growing through the show
But that’s the problem. They showed more of his sister rebelling against her father’s code than the growth of the son’s understanding of it. He was sidelined to the family farm for most of the season after killing Blackstar. The modern storyline could have centered around Paragon. Like his father bring the heroes together and discover their own code or understanding of the current code to parallel with origin story.
I also definitely noticed the lack of diversity, but I guess it’s hard to justify a diverse cast from the 1920’s💀
I really have a problem or a lack of capability to even see "lack" of diversity and/or having an issue with it.
It has to be real and functional, right? It has to have the right reason.
Not diversity for the sake of diversity, that defeats the purpose and power completely, and it's very easy to spot it when that's the case.
@@Denz2799 same also I think that there's a lot of diversity in the new generation of superheros I just think the idea of the first season is that it focuses on the older generation and in the second second will likely focus more on the newer generation I think the main characters will kinda switch
@@Denz2799 “real and functional” superheroes?? People always have an excuse to exclude certain people…
@@Zucifer8 functional to the story obviously
Don't make it more than it is. That's where discussions leave meaning and enter into a one-sided "my morals are better than your morals" discussion
Loved the show but it felt power rangy in the costume design. The thing I appreciated about the arrow verse was that although the costumes where clearly cheap to me they still seem to fit in the world they were in
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I liked it but tbh, it does look and feel like the older CW DC shows which are pretty low in the bar already. With that said, I think that there’s a potential for it to be phenomenal. I love the idea about challenging the code. I gotta say, some of the characters can be very frustrating especially Utopian. And it is the 1929 storyline that hooked me. The modern time needs to flesh out its characters.
Really loved the show but didnt know anything about it when I walked into it. The only issue that I had were that they tried A LOT in just 8 episodes... and could easily have doubled it so there had been more room for the individual character development.
Why do Netflix show feel cramped and slow at the same time...
I took a shot every time I heard "classic film." Now I am commenting from heaven.
I liked it, but the huge problem I had with it was the 1929 storyline, which I liked too, but it wasted some time, especially with the changes they made to the main six's history as friends following Sheldon to the island, to half of them being strangers who needed to be there because of some vision driving Sheldon crazy.
Yes, all that premise of “the worthy” doesn’t make any sense... why there are a lot of people with superpowers if they were the “chosen ones” in the first place...
we dont care about represantation we care about good stories, when watching amazing korean movies i never thought why there isnt a filipino in the movie
You don't talk for me thanks for trying
I care, like good show or not I'm not going to watch a show filled with mainly Caucasian characters as a black man myself.
@@Wyatt6661 i wouldnt ever talk for you because your opinion lacks validity and has never held any gravity
'Chaos and poop'
pretty much sums it up
Well said
Guess I'm the only one that felt it weird that none of them reacted to being on I'm guessing one of jupiter's moons, that shot of jupiter was crazy. But they just seem to ignore it
It kept me intrigued trying to find out how they got their powers....took the whole season....smh lol. Makes me want more now.
Don’t know what Grace was watching. This felt like a (CW) show
what does a CW show feel like?
@@twistedcastles3613 a different budget to what Netflix can usually afford
@@twistedcastles3613 bad acting, bad characterization, bad production, max soap opera, bad costumes etc That's why anything bad is compared with CW
@@kedarpadgur7657 I feel this show isnt really quite like that though
the acting was fine and great at times , the cinematography was really good those 1929 flashbacks , the costumes were clearly high quality for the sort of designs they went for and were actually very individualistic and detailed and the soap opera element are weird for me traditional comic books have always been like soap operas.
@@kedarpadgur7657 my biggest issue with the CW is the writing thats really why a lot of their shows are considered bad
Riverdale always had a really nice cinematography but after season 1 it got more and more unwatchable due to the writing.
Even HBO isnt beyond making clunkers , they will be expensive but I feel because people see money on screen they are more forgiving.
True Blood and GOT ended pretty terribly.
I mean some of those 1929 scenes were INCREDIBLE 🤯🤯It had such movie level qualities that I couldn’t look away! Now the modern stuff was interesting enough to keep me going, and I think the acting was GREAT. I definitely want more diversity in a second season. I need to know what happens with some of these characters!
I liked the series but it was confusing at times, making it complicated. The flashbacks made it feel like I was watching two different shows but it started to make a little more sense towards the end.
Did anybody else notice that the book Blackstar was reading in prison was a trashy romance novel? I thought it first it was Turgenev's Fathers and Sons, but a close up showed otherwise.
The journey to and on the island, was very much like 2005's King Kong. This was one of my favoutite parts of the show.
Indeed! I kept asking myself "how did Grace like this" lol
the expression id use would be 'blue balls'. i actually loved the lovecraftian 1920's mystery plot to be the most interesting part of the story.
The low budget super hero action sequences and costumes initially turned me off a little bit as it felt closer to something the CW would produce. The Boys and of course the Marvel shows do better in this aspect. This show is missing the spectacle.
However, the mystery and character drama got be hooked.
I'm in the middle of the first season. It's not great. But, it's good enough to keep you watching to see what will happen next.
I honestly wanted even more of the 1920s story because I found that the most compelling.
I want Netflix to give the mass amount of money it has to make all the superhero aspect of the shows WAY better. Some of the scenes are rough.
But the entire cast is great! I definitely want a second season but Netflix needs to fund this show even more.
it's funny seeing her realizing the problems as she's defending the show haha
She highlighted problems in the non spoiler review