A lot of things changed in a year. This list looks so much better! I basically agree with everything but Wildfrost, which is surprising because I have some strong roguelike opinions lol.
Being really honest, isaac is a god tier in lore and story, but in gameplay kinda lacks. Weird hitboxes, floors only get interesting late game. In general it feels too basic, it's fun but compared to gungeon it's REALLY basic.
As an Isaac fan. I prob would have said the same thing 6 years ago. But man, I kept returning to it ever year or so and now I play it daily. You learn new things about it every time you play. There’s 34 characters with 12 completion marks per character. A lot of content and unlocks. With a casual 637 achievements. If you ever go back to it (like I kept doing) you’ll fall in love too.
agreed, EXCEPT fuck everything about Delirium. I hate that fight with a burning passion. I remain convinced that Delirium is one of the worst boss fights out there, and I'll gladly die on that hill.
The binding of Isaac isn't like other Rougelike games. The more you play it, the more you realize how barely on the surface level you're at. The moment you unlock some key items, get some crazy synergies going, that's when the game shines.
Hades and Returnal do a great job of having a roguelite that you play to "arrive somewhere" (the former more than the latter) as opposed to most roguelites where you just play for the sake of each individual run being fun (which is totally fine). I wish there were more Roguelites like that, where there's an actual story
I'd say the main charm of Isaac is the cosmetics, it adds so much to the random feeling of each run because it's not only the effects or projectiles, but you also got the combinated cosmetics of the characters. I have 470+ hours on Isaac, and I believe I will never be bored playing it.
There is so much strategy in isaac, you can really manipulate the game to make insane builds. It really rewards experience. I tried many other rouge lites, but for me, too often it was just about, you find this and this weapon, see how far you can get with it. These days the newer rouge lites are better at giving players options to customize their builds, and it's great but to me there will always be something special about the freedom you have in isaac.
@@warezpl0 yeah agree with the strats, me on other roguelites probably would stick to 1 or 2 go-to strat because others are just not imba or not fun, but in Isaac, people above 100 hrs would get into the chasm of endless possibilities that Isaac provides. I've always been able to make knew imba combos in Isaac and trying to remember how to make it but almost never been able to recreate it, instead founding new imba strat in each and every run.
I've been on a mission to find a replacement to Isaac and truly, nothing else measures up in terms of possibility. I full cleared Tainted Lost and honestly, that's the biggest high I can see in the game. Just like The Lost, I'm ready to move on. Suggestions welcome 👍
I'm sure you already have, but if not I really do recommend Enter the Gungeon. It's the only thing that compares and though I think it is more difficult than Isaac, I also find it to be more fair. I have 1,788 hours in BOI btw.
Skul is easily my favorite, the variety with things u can do and builds u can make is just unmatched for me. Making op builds for every character is what makes it fun, easy S tier for me.
The Ninja class is the most Ops class INVISIBILITY nothing can touch him. U can dodge all the time with Wing dash skill with no cooldown just spam your dodge
I love Hades for Zagreus and his character. And the storytelling. The way it is told and the characters react to what you do. I love the Zagreus being a sassy teen just trying to sneak out of his house.
Man, I tried to like this game but it’s not doing it for me. I installed the game 3 times already. I just don’t like the upgrades, don’t care about the characters and there’s too much going on on the screen. Good for you though! Love the doggy
GREAT short, in depth review (as you could) for every game you put on this list. Great tier list, needs Slay the Spire. Thinking about grabbing a few of these i havent played myself and maybe go back to some i left behind. Keep it up!!!
@@Burr_ yeah, it took me like 150-200 hrs to make it to beast. I don't blame ya the game is massive you gotta REALLY like it to make it to all the content.
@ I mean it takes you at least 30 runs I think to fight beast for the 1st time and you have to also win all those runs + doing greed mode and challenges in between
@@spooky8901 maybe you did all challenges and greed mode with all characters without going to true ending, otherwise I can't imagine how a normal person could take 150h to kill the beast for the first time xdd
Highly recommend Children of Morta. It has a great art style & a solid campaign with a good story. Plus, after you defeat the campaign, you unlock another mode that changes a lot about the game and adds a ton of replayability. It also has 2 player coop.
Thanks for making this tier list -- these things are always entertaining. Looking forward to your next iteration, which will hopefully include Slay the Spire!
Good luck with noita, it is really really hard but most deaths can easels be avoided with experience and once you’ve mastered it you become an unstoppable god that fears of being one shouted after transforming into a sheep.
I agree with this list for the most part. RoR2 is S tier. It is from recent memory the greatest early access game. It got continuous free updates. It is the standard now for 3rd person. Hades gets top down. Dead Cells gets 2D. I'd also say that Ship of Fools is way too low. Especially since with multiplayer, its such a fun chaotic time.
Heyo, thank you so much for including us and for the lovely rating! Enjoyed the list a lot! I'm glad to hear you keep your eyes out for updates too, as we are currently working on many cool things (just had a steam news post about it) :D
Since I played almost all the S tier games in this list I decided to try the game I found most interesting that wasn't S tier in this list. Choice fell on Dome Keeper. Perfect game in its scope, you can really feel a strong game design among other very nice things. I'd say it's not an S here just because it's not a very "big" game. Even more appreciated played after the disappointing Cult of the Lamb. Thank you for the fun.
Probably the most underrated roguelike I've found is from the FTL developers called Into the Breach. It's puzzle focused but I'd highly recommend anyone check it out and it's a bit easier than FTL imo.
Well done review man! Very fair assessment on each of these roguelites! I'll definitely have a rewatch of this video whenever I feel confused as to which roguelite to play! Keep rockin it man! :)
Nuclear throne is the grandfather of twin-stick shooter roguelikes it is one of my favorite games ever made the characters are amazing with their unique differences and the gun and enemy variety just makes the game more chaotic and fun alongside the fact it has my favorite roguelike mechanic of all time looping.
This is an awesome list! I would suggest adding Monster Train, Moonlighter, Tangledeep, Slay the Spire and Don’t Starve to your rogue backlog. Those are all some of my faves and definitely worth trying!
I’m super late, but great video for real. I will say that inscryption is mostly a roguelite in the end game content called Kaycee’s mod where you play the first part of the game with different variation, more cards to pick from, and a highly elevated difficulty. I’m ecstatic you still put it in S tier, though
curse of the dead gods is one of my all time favorite games i love the setting this Aztec Mesopotamia type of temple which is very unique and quite underused, i loved the character although quiet and not some sexy dude like zag from hades i loved his difference. i loved the runs the game play and the weapons and perks all quite interesting and worked well, the curse system was both cool gameplay and story wise in my eyes. and finally the difficulty the runs where you stomp everything including the bosses do exist but generaly you really have to learn the enemies and bosses move sets to win which felt like the pantheons in hollow knight. all in all 10/10 game in my eyes ive done 100% of the game including the weapons and the codex's i love this game.
Yeah I haven't played a lot of the games on his list but was sad at his c rating. I though curse of the dead gods was an excellent game. One of the few bright stars I've seen in gaming in the last few years.
One Step from Eden is a great game. Plenty of different build paths and multiple characters to play as. Maybe high A/low S tier even though the runs can sometimes feel too long.
skul is not a heavily rng game but what i have noticed is that every run can be cleared as every run has a theme you need to pick up on and take the right items
You did a much better job this time my friend I was one of those people that said how is ror 2 not in your last tier list and I also was mad about your Issac rating but A feels more realistic especially with your reasoning. I still think it's S but I can deal with A. Crab champions is sick NGL
Was waiting to see where you ranked Neon Abyss, and no dice. Its probably my favourite of the genre. And as a couple others mentioned, Into The Breach and Sythetik are both very good. Both are worth checking out. Synthetik also has a sequel but I've yet to play it.
Try Voidigo, Blade Assault, Doomsday Hunters, Vault of the Void, Ring of Pain, Roboquest, Deadlink, Soulstone Survivors, Beneath Oresa, Crawl Tactics, Immortal Tactics: War of the Eternals, Ember Knights, Brutal Orchestra... You forgot about Into the Breach and The Last Spell. Hyper Light Breaker and on my wishlist. ;-)
"Hyper Light Breaker and on my wishlist." I forgot the name of another game. I wanted to say: "Hyper Light Breaker and Wizard with a Gun on my wishlist." ) Thank you for giving me a heart (Like).
i dont like how "its highly rng based" like, no? sure the game becomes A LOT easier with good rng but i(a newbie skul player) can get to last boss with beginner/intermediate skulls. it simply takes skill and practice. b-c would be an okay placement if we were to rank these from a "newbie player" viewpoint but placing hades in s tier while skul is c tier? no way.
@@FatihLock ye honestly when he said its so rng based that just screamed skill issue for me like this game was the game to make me good at roguelike the sister fight was what made me break the wall of all rouge likes and started to actually enjoy the game way more im currently playing it all over again on mobile and its really not that hard if your good at the game
Great to see Brotato in the list this time! It's definitely my favourite of a lot of the games ive played, ive spent over 200 hours in the game and love it to pieces, enough to even write an entire steam guide on it to help people starting out, and strategies for every single character. So if anyone is looking in the comments to see if they should get one, i can personally suggest Brotato highly. Super fun, and so much to do!
One of my fav rogue like games is soulstone survivors, especially with the new update. would recommend as even a fresh start if built right can finish the game. the replayability is AMAZING.
Just wanna say risk of rain 2 I believe should be s tier I have it on switch, Xbox and pc, and I played the first one as well. From the music to the artistic style to the difficulty to the characters to the enemies to the amount of things you can do in each run(combing artifacts and/or combining different items) I believe it is one of the best probably games I’ve ever played
It's deceptively simple, being very complex with tons of tech and item synergies. It's enjoyable for both beginners and veterans. Not to mention the incredible lore behind the game hidden in details in the maps and that you can piece together in the log books
Great list. My current jam is Halls of Torment. A Vampire Survivors inspired game with a Diablo 2 aesthetic. Tons of characters with different skills and a meta upgrade system that uses equipment. You definitely should check it out
Great games: Atomicrops, Dead Estate, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Undermine, Luck be a Landlord, Backpack Hero, DR LIVESY ROM AND DEATH, Dicey Dungeons, Going Under, Just King, Legend of Bumbo, Moonlighter, Ring of Pain, Slay the Spire, Spelunky, and above all (at least for now) Shogun Showdown. If they keep up the good work then that game is an easy A possibly S tier for me.
I love Roguelikes probably my favorite genre. I to have played most of the ones you did. But you missed a major one. Synthetik is literally my favorite Roguelike of all time and still is. I have almost 500 hours in it and still play it a lot solo and co-op with friends.
Thank you for providing an unbiased review. I would like to suggest adding Slay the Spire to the S tier. Initially, I found it difficult to beat even at level one. However, as time passed, I learned to appreciate the game's amazing deck building mechanics. I have played it for over 300 hours now and it continues to be a favorite of mine.
Crab Champions is unironically very good and very fun with a lot of replayability haha. RoR2 should definitely be S tier especially because of mods but I understand the A rating haha
Missing games off the top of my head: - Downwell - Ziggurat - Iratus - Slay the Spire - Monolith (now called Star of Providence) - Spellbook Demonslayers - Soulstone Survivors - Sunless Sea / Sky - Renowned Explorers - Guild of Dungeoneering - Kingsway - BPM - Halls of Torment - Despotism 3k - Runers - Nordic Ashes - Atomicrops - World of Horror - Hand of Fate - Dicey Dungeons - Crypt of the Necrodancer - Into the Breach
Great tier list, it surprised me dozens of times. Just think you could have included Atomicrops, definitely one of the best and most creative roguelikes out there! It's just so underrated :(
I tried Slay the Spire for the first time this year coming from a MTG background. I really loved it, put like 40 hours, got asension 5 or something like that and then got kind of burned out. So I started searching for other deckbuilders that run well on steam deck. I bought Wildfrost and tbh, at first I really didn't get it but not in a "it's too hard" kind of way, more in like a "I'm not understanding how to exploit this game", because at the end of the day, thats the whole point of roguelites from what I feel like. After like 15 hours I got my first win which felt lucky but after that run I surprisingly completed other 3 runs in a row with different "strats". The ending btw is very special and a really cool twist which I highly recommend beating it just for that. Anyway, what I'm saying is that I don't think Wildfrost has an issue being hard but it doesn't convey how to play it/strategize correctly so it feels hard at the beginning. It's a fun game, definetly on the high B tier for me, you should give it another try! Tip: x4 and x5 heroes and cards are very strong!
Coming straight from the previous tierlist and it's definitely Better. I also liked the fact that you added on most games the amount of time you played since helps to understand how much you digged in the game. I agree on most of the games, like Curse of the Dead Gods and Have a Nice Death. I had the same feeling. This time I HIGHLY agree with you about Isaac. I had like 90 hours so I know many would Say I Just completed the tutorial, I like this but I'm not so addicted to the game; of course I play It with the Item description Active, it's a Nightmare without It! Finally, there's a lot of good game I never played until now that I'll try to include even on my small Channel. Thank you for your work man, super appreciated!
You need to play Crypt of the Necrodancer. It is the most difficul roguelike I've ever played and one of the most fun for sure. It is a mix of roguelike and rhythm game. Rogue Heroes is also great and it is a mix of roguelike and RPG adventure.
I’d love to see this list with Slay the Spire, Dead Estate, and Halls of Torment added, especially the last two, since we know that Slay the Spire is S-Tier Any thoughts on Dead Estate or Halls of Torment??
I have seen a bit of Hells of Torment and it looks very good! Dead Estate looks like a game I would enjoy as well. Twin stick action shooters, right down my alley
I am a casual indie roguelites gamer and my current favourite is "Slice and Dice". I think, I've played easily more than 100 h maybe over 200 h. Pros: You"ll always find new mechanics, combos and synergies while playing, since there are a lot of items, curses, blessings and characters. Cons: IMO, some high tier items dont feel like that powerful and a good run can be killed by a REALLY bad turn with 2-4 blank sides (which doesn't happen that often). All in all, when I replay it, it doesnt get boring and thats what I want from roguelites.
Great list! Gives a good overview of what is available when people are looking for another rogue-lite fix. Besides Slay the Spire I would also suggest looking at Monster Train and Astrea.
I misjudged the binding of isaac too, and regret it cause a friend gave me a copy of it for the psvita, and lost it in a flood. But been playing it on my switch every once in a while
Actually a super solid list. Anyone who's looking for another S-tier roguelite should check out Griftlands. Klei is always an incredible studio, and the production quality on Griftlands just blows everything else out of the water imo.
I enjoyed Griftlands for a while, but the actual gameplay started to feel bland too soon. Decks fall into set archetypes, there is just too much hard synergy and not a lot of space for creative deckbuilding. The actual RPG-like structure is really cool, I wish the game was better in the card battling regard, the potential would be astronomical.
Honestly ive had so much fun playing ship of fools with my partner. There's fun meta progression, and also a huge skill curve (first boss felt really hard, then second, then third, etc. - but once you learn it and get the feeling down it becomes way more manageable). To each their own, but its certainly not a D tier game imo, especially with a friend. Side note, the game becomes much more manageable with designated roles. My girlfriend manned the stronger turret the whole game, i focused on reloading/maintaining ship with a sentry turret
Nice list. Darkest Dungeon is love. Quite a lot of games I'd recommend that I personally have enjoyed which aren't on this list - Iratus: Lord of the Dead, Legend of Keepers, Rogue Lords, Dungeon of the Endless, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Sin Slayers, Mistover. Quite a few of those (the first three mentioned) have you play as the "bad guys" and so they give an interesting viewpoint as opposed to playing as the heroes like normal.
I am just now getting into roguelikes and i'm having a blast. Dome Keeper and Wizard of legend were fun little introductions to the genre and now i'm a few hours into Hades and it is absolutely amazing. Sifu has been on my list for a while as well, so that'll probably be next.
Isaac is overrated. It's a pillar of the genre and can be argued to be the most IMPACTFUL roguelite to be made, but it has been outclassed at this point. So many games just have so much better gameplay or mechanics. I love Isaac and have put my fair share into it, but anyone who says it's an "easy S tier" are the ones who actually no nothing of the genre. I'll also say; it's crazy how much of a downgrade DD2 is compared to DD1. I really don't think the devs understand what people liked about the first game at all.
There is not a single Roguelike in the market with the same replayability or build diversity as Isaac, not even close, i have hundreds of hours in the game and if i pick it now i know i will end up with some crazy builds ive never did before, no other game does it like Isaac did, looks like youre the one who knows nothign about the genre and/or Isaac, and dont even get me started on how that "little" game has a crazy story and alot of the characters and items have very deep religious meanings.
I’ll tell you right now I’ve played it since this video and it’s the best deck builder out there. A or S tier (I’m not the biggest into deck builders) but I do enjoy it a lot. Even though I haven’t been able to get the true ending
@@Burr_ thanks for your response, good to hear you enjoy it! I’m also struggling to get to the true ending. It’s my first deck builder so didn’t know what to expect, but loving it!
Isaac is SSS tier, your tastes are shit, everything is boring on the list . You will never have a play time longer than ISAAC, the only thing every other game lacks is replayability because EVERY run feels exactly the same with minor differences and synergies are WEAK in comparison to Isaac. Poor taste
I’d been sleeping on Inscryption until I saw it was the only S tier I hadn’t played in this list. Downloaded it free on ps+ and sunk 5 hours into it immediately. Game is absolutely amazing, S tier for sure, fantastic video! Thanks for the pro tip
A lot of things changed in a year. This list looks so much better! I basically agree with everything but Wildfrost, which is surprising because I have some strong roguelike opinions lol.
Thanks for supporting and watching. Means a lot coming from you Retro.
Retro! Nice! Hey dude! Love your channel!
I hope that Revita jumps up a tier once 2.0 comes out. Kind of shocked to know it would be in ur B tier as it was a long series there.
@@Burr_ you should play blasphemous,the messenger,hyper light drifter,there is no light,and hotline miami 1 & 2 cos those game are pretty good
@@VathanaLuy-nv5re the aren't roguelikes tho, they are metroidvanias
But yeah, they're indeed very good games
This video was informative and well paced. I also really appreciate all of the annotations. Thanks man!
Thanks for watching and supporting!
No Isaac and Risk of Rain 2 in S tier is a criminal offence
Binding of Isaac is so good, it's really very simple in mechanics but complex in execution.
RoR2 is kinda bad with what developers done in DLC
It’s subjective. let it go
People when opinion
Being really honest, isaac is a god tier in lore and story, but in gameplay kinda lacks. Weird hitboxes, floors only get interesting late game. In general it feels too basic, it's fun but compared to gungeon it's REALLY basic.
As an Isaac fan. I prob would have said the same thing 6 years ago. But man, I kept returning to it ever year or so and now I play it daily. You learn new things about it every time you play. There’s 34 characters with 12 completion marks per character. A lot of content and unlocks. With a casual 637 achievements. If you ever go back to it (like I kept doing) you’ll fall in love too.
I knew this review was going to be subpar as soon as this man said he cleared the game in 30 hours... No, no you didn't
@@mapouman Issac fans try not to get someone to dedicate hundreds of hours into a single game challenge (other games exist)
@@doug2555 bruh tf are you talking about? thats the point of roguelikes
@@mapouman Yup, Binding of Isaac not on S tier is a crime, it should even have its own category like SSS tier, nothing comes close.
agreed, EXCEPT fuck everything about Delirium. I hate that fight with a burning passion. I remain convinced that Delirium is one of the worst boss fights out there, and I'll gladly die on that hill.
The binding of Isaac isn't like other Rougelike games. The more you play it, the more you realize how barely on the surface level you're at. The moment you unlock some key items, get some crazy synergies going, that's when the game shines.
Hades and Returnal do a great job of having a roguelite that you play to "arrive somewhere" (the former more than the latter) as opposed to most roguelites where you just play for the sake of each individual run being fun (which is totally fine). I wish there were more Roguelites like that, where there's an actual story
Children of Morta.
ETG and I’m only half joking masterpiece of a game
All the roguelites are like that... Because that's what a roguelite is. It would be a roguelike if it wasn't like that
I completed hades at the fourth run, and after that i dropped the game. Have an objetive to arrive can be a disadventage for experimented players.
@@sibrimbarcenasreales5525 you're not experimented my guy. Cuz you didn't "complete" the game lol. Beating Hades once isn't even the final boss...
I'd say the main charm of Isaac is the cosmetics, it adds so much to the random feeling of each run because it's not only the effects or projectiles, but you also got the combinated cosmetics of the characters. I have 470+ hours on Isaac, and I believe I will never be bored playing it.
There is so much strategy in isaac, you can really manipulate the game to make insane builds. It really rewards experience. I tried many other rouge lites, but for me, too often it was just about, you find this and this weapon, see how far you can get with it. These days the newer rouge lites are better at giving players options to customize their builds, and it's great but to me there will always be something special about the freedom you have in isaac.
@@warezpl0 yeah agree with the strats, me on other roguelites probably would stick to 1 or 2 go-to strat because others are just not imba or not fun, but in Isaac, people above 100 hrs would get into the chasm of endless possibilities that Isaac provides. I've always been able to make knew imba combos in Isaac and trying to remember how to make it but almost never been able to recreate it, instead founding new imba strat in each and every run.
I've been on a mission to find a replacement to Isaac and truly, nothing else measures up in terms of possibility. I full cleared Tainted Lost and honestly, that's the biggest high I can see in the game. Just like The Lost, I'm ready to move on. Suggestions welcome 👍
I'm sure you already have, but if not I really do recommend Enter the Gungeon. It's the only thing that compares and though I think it is more difficult than Isaac, I also find it to be more fair. I have 1,788 hours in BOI btw.
Definitely one of my favs. Grabbed it for multiple systems. Also the top down, kinda Zelda dungeon visuals also make it more appealing imo.
"C is pretty good....that was me in highschool!!!!" XD
great video man keep it up!!!
Skul is easily my favorite, the variety with things u can do and builds u can make is just unmatched for me. Making op builds for every character is what makes it fun, easy S tier for me.
The Ninja class is the most Ops class INVISIBILITY nothing can touch him. U can dodge all the time with Wing dash skill with no cooldown just spam your dodge
Amazing video, crazy how in depth this is. You're gonna need another tier list in a year because sooooo many roguelikes are coming out now
Next one will be a 75 game list
@@Burr_ Make a part 2 of this video, adding new games :)
I love Hades for Zagreus and his character. And the storytelling. The way it is told and the characters react to what you do. I love the Zagreus being a sassy teen just trying to sneak out of his house.
Man, I tried to like this game but it’s not doing it for me. I installed the game 3 times already.
I just don’t like the upgrades, don’t care about the characters and there’s too much going on on the screen.
Good for you though! Love the doggy
@@benoitdufour3995 Not everything is for everyone. I respect that you didnt hate and just posted an honest to god opinion. Keep that up bud.
@@benoitdufour3995something wrong with you then
I think the writing for zag is SOOOO bad... It's certified cringe. Hades and nyx though, they're amazing
@@d00mnoodle24 it's meant to be
GREAT short, in depth review (as you could) for every game you put on this list. Great tier list, needs Slay the Spire. Thinking about grabbing a few of these i havent played myself and maybe go back to some i left behind. Keep it up!!!
Thank you for always supporting! Slay the spire is very much needed, i agree
bro did NOT clear isaac 😭
i played for 30 hours and can gladly admit it's not enough time and that Isaac is probably the best roguelite in terms of variety
@@Burr_ yeah, it took me like 150-200 hrs to make it to beast. I don't blame ya the game is massive you gotta REALLY like it to make it to all the content.
@@spooky8901 150h just to kill the beast is crazy wtf are u playing with ur feet or what
@ I mean it takes you at least 30 runs I think to fight beast for the 1st time and you have to also win all those runs + doing greed mode and challenges in between
@@spooky8901 maybe you did all challenges and greed mode with all characters without going to true ending, otherwise I can't imagine how a normal person could take 150h to kill the beast for the first time xdd
One thing I’ve always found a bit annoying about these collect ‘em all videos is the pacing, but you found the sweet spot! Good stuff dude, thanks ✌️
Thanks for watching and supporting! One of the most unique compliments I've gotten and love it
Highly recommend Children of Morta. It has a great art style & a solid campaign with a good story. Plus, after you defeat the campaign, you unlock another mode that changes a lot about the game and adds a ton of replayability. It also has 2 player coop.
Agreed
Second this.
LINDA FTW!
Such a gem of a game
Love this game
Thanks for making this tier list -- these things are always entertaining.
Looking forward to your next iteration, which will hopefully include Slay the Spire!
Next one hopefully next year. Maybe Slay gets it own video
Noita too!
slay the spire , Roguebook , Rogue Lords (pleaseeee look at Rogue Lords) noone knows about that game!
its so cool that ppl do videos like this. appreciate
Thanks for watching! Means a lot
@@Burr_ yea looking forward to more
Good luck with noita, it is really really hard but most deaths can easels be avoided with experience and once you’ve mastered it you become an unstoppable god that fears of being one shouted after transforming into a sheep.
Crypt of the NecroDancer is another well known rouge like you should play
That game was so fire. Such a unique gameplay too!
I agree with this list for the most part. RoR2 is S tier. It is from recent memory the greatest early access game. It got continuous free updates. It is the standard now for 3rd person. Hades gets top down. Dead Cells gets 2D. I'd also say that Ship of Fools is way too low. Especially since with multiplayer, its such a fun chaotic time.
does slay the spire get deckbuilder? 😊
@@GolAcheron-fc4ugit definitely does
gungeon gets topdown for me
What is topdown? Fdom my memory, Hades & Dead cells were amazing, ROR2 was really boring
@@Themarch001 RoR2 boring? damn. That game is so rewarding.
its criminal how Streets of Rogue isnt on this list
Don't see nuclear throne
Nuclear Throne and TBOI 🐐🐐
He said it in the end that he didn't play too much to give an opinion
Yeah...
The sequel we've been waiting for. Great work 🙂
Heyo, thank you so much for including us and for the lovely rating! Enjoyed the list a lot!
I'm glad to hear you keep your eyes out for updates too, as we are currently working on many cool things (just had a steam news post about it) :D
I read that post and am VERY excited to see those updates when they're ready. I LOVE the Dome! Thanks for watching and supporting!
Since I played almost all the S tier games in this list I decided to try the game I found most interesting that wasn't S tier in this list. Choice fell on Dome Keeper. Perfect game in its scope, you can really feel a strong game design among other very nice things. I'd say it's not an S here just because it's not a very "big" game. Even more appreciated played after the disappointing Cult of the Lamb.
Thank you for the fun.
@@ernaldo1848 Wow thank you! I appreciate it :)
Probably the most underrated roguelike I've found is from the FTL developers called Into the Breach. It's puzzle focused but I'd highly recommend anyone check it out and it's a bit easier than FTL imo.
I think it’s in my library. It looks really good!
Yeah, Into the Breach has great climate and addictive music :) Ben Prunty did a great job with the music again after perfect FTL
Easier?
How did this guy make it to the last boss in Curse of the Dead Gods while thinking that there's no s
Lmao he perfect dodges in the clip he shows.
Well done review man! Very fair assessment on each of these roguelites! I'll definitely have a rewatch of this video whenever I feel confused as to which roguelite to play! Keep rockin it man! :)
Thank you! Thanks for watching and the kind words. Glad this video can help you find some games!
Nuclear throne is the grandfather of twin-stick shooter roguelikes it is one of my favorite games ever made the characters are amazing with their unique differences and the gun and enemy variety just makes the game more chaotic and fun alongside the fact it has my favorite roguelike mechanic of all time looping.
It looks VERY good. i think i have it on game pass if its still there. gonna need to try it
@@Burr_I’d definitely recommend it on mouse and keyboard over controller tbh
It's also easily one of the hardest
I agree with everything above
i got into nuclear throne very late, but it easily became one of my favorite roguelites of all time.
This is an awesome list! I would suggest adding Monster Train, Moonlighter, Tangledeep, Slay the Spire and Don’t Starve to your rogue backlog. Those are all some of my faves and definitely worth trying!
dont starve has some rogue aspects to it but i think it would be better classified as a open world survival game
If don't starve is a roguelike game then hardcore minecraft is as well
Spelunky 2?
@@guilhermebarao4866 Maybe, but Don't Starve is more roguelike than Darkest Dungeon 1 - and it's also on the list.
not having slay the spire on a list like this is insane, such a legendary game
"Griftlands" is an incredible rogue deckbuilder.
Wizard of Legend being that low is criminal. That's easily S tier for me, and at the very least A tier.
I’m super late, but great video for real. I will say that inscryption is mostly a roguelite in the end game content called Kaycee’s mod where you play the first part of the game with different variation, more cards to pick from, and a highly elevated difficulty. I’m ecstatic you still put it in S tier, though
Thanks for watching and supporting! I wanna go back Inscryption one of these days, it's a gem
curse of the dead gods is one of my all time favorite games i love the setting this Aztec Mesopotamia type of temple which is very unique and quite underused, i loved the character although quiet and not some sexy dude like zag from hades i loved his difference. i loved the runs the game play and the weapons and perks all quite interesting and worked well, the curse system was both cool gameplay and story wise in my eyes. and finally the difficulty the runs where you stomp everything including the bosses do exist but generaly you really have to learn the enemies and bosses move sets to win which felt like the pantheons in hollow knight.
all in all 10/10 game in my eyes ive done 100% of the game including the weapons and the codex's i love this game.
You sell the game very well. makes me want to go back and try it again to be honest
It's a perfect steam deck game too!
Yeah I haven't played a lot of the games on his list but was sad at his c rating. I though curse of the dead gods was an excellent game. One of the few bright stars I've seen in gaming in the last few years.
Such a hidden gem channel
Thank you!
One Step from Eden is a great game. Plenty of different build paths and multiple characters to play as. Maybe high A/low S tier even though the runs can sometimes feel too long.
At 30-40 mins it's longer than Hades but on par with Dead Cells or Gungeon. Good timing, I feel.
Cool video. Love your open mindedness on these games. Very refreshing. Subbed
Thanks for the kind words and watching Means a lot
skul is not a heavily rng game but what i have noticed is that every run can be cleared as every run has a theme you need to pick up on and take the right items
Fun video! I would love to see you rank Halls of Torment next time.
Thanks for watching! Next time I do any sort of roguelite ranking it will be up there! Great game
You did a much better job this time my friend I was one of those people that said how is ror 2 not in your last tier list and I also was mad about your Issac rating but A feels more realistic especially with your reasoning. I still think it's S but I can deal with A. Crab champions is sick NGL
Thank you for the very nice comment and watching and supporting
Was waiting to see where you ranked Neon Abyss, and no dice. Its probably my favourite of the genre. And as a couple others mentioned, Into The Breach and Sythetik are both very good. Both are worth checking out. Synthetik also has a sequel but I've yet to play it.
You liked Neon Abyss over Enter the Gungeon?
Try Voidigo, Blade Assault, Doomsday Hunters, Vault of the Void, Ring of Pain, Roboquest, Deadlink, Soulstone Survivors, Beneath Oresa, Crawl Tactics, Immortal Tactics: War of the Eternals, Ember Knights, Brutal Orchestra... You forgot about Into the Breach and The Last Spell. Hyper Light Breaker and on my wishlist. ;-)
"Hyper Light Breaker and on my wishlist." I forgot the name of another game. I wanted to say: "Hyper Light Breaker and Wizard with a Gun on my wishlist." ) Thank you for giving me a heart (Like).
If you considered fear and hunger a rogue like i would highly recommended it
I haven't played 99% of these so this is a good overview of the genre for me to check out
Skul The Hero Slayer not being S tier is a crime against humanity
I agree that game is Amazing
i dont like how "its highly rng based" like, no? sure the game becomes A LOT easier with good rng but i(a newbie skul player) can get to last boss with beginner/intermediate skulls. it simply takes skill and practice. b-c would be an okay placement if we were to rank these from a "newbie player" viewpoint but placing hades in s tier while skul is c tier? no way.
@@FatihLock ye honestly when he said its so rng based that just screamed skill issue for me like this game was the game to make me good at roguelike the sister fight was what made me break the wall of all rouge likes and started to actually enjoy the game way more im currently playing it all over again on mobile and its really not that hard if your good at the game
Great to see Brotato in the list this time! It's definitely my favourite of a lot of the games ive played, ive spent over 200 hours in the game and love it to pieces, enough to even write an entire steam guide on it to help people starting out, and strategies for every single character. So if anyone is looking in the comments to see if they should get one, i can personally suggest Brotato highly. Super fun, and so much to do!
Care to share links to those guides you made?
One of my fav rogue like games is soulstone survivors, especially with the new update. would recommend as even a fresh start if built right can finish the game. the replayability is AMAZING.
Check out Rogue Genesia, you won't be disappointed I promise. There's a free demo.
Brotato description: You survive 20 waves...
Me: When? I don't remember that part 😅
this dude looks sooo baked in all of the gameplay footage hahahaha
Just wanna say risk of rain 2 I believe should be s tier I have it on switch, Xbox and pc, and I played the first one as well. From the music to the artistic style to the difficulty to the characters to the enemies to the amount of things you can do in each run(combing artifacts and/or combining different items) I believe it is one of the best probably games I’ve ever played
it should be double S tier with a huge gap between the rest
then S tier FTL, Slay the spire, Dead Cells and Immortal Redneck in no order.
@@Snailed_Suikahave you played tboi repentance?
It's deceptively simple, being very complex with tons of tech and item synergies. It's enjoyable for both beginners and veterans. Not to mention the incredible lore behind the game hidden in details in the maps and that you can piece together in the log books
Great list. My current jam is Halls of Torment. A Vampire Survivors inspired game with a Diablo 2 aesthetic. Tons of characters with different skills and a meta upgrade system that uses equipment. You definitely should check it out
I actually have played it a little after making this video! AMight be my 2nd favorite horde survivor after brotato!
Hmm looks great but still early access
Love the list! Would love for you to try and play Noita and I’m very interested where it would site on your tier list 😂
I think i might do an end of year list for whatever games I play so hopefully Noita can sneak on
Awesome list , me personally I've gotten all achievements on RoR2 and TBOI so im a little biased, i gotta try more games on the list though
good vid appriciate the time you put in :)
Thank you! These tier lists are always a lot of work. thank you for watching and supporting!
Your S Tier list is enough for me to be like... "Yo this guy is the realest."
Thank you for watching and supporting. Glad my S tier list is good to some people
@@Burr_ if Roguelikes had a Bible your S-tier list is on thar page lol.
Great games: Atomicrops, Dead Estate, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Undermine, Luck be a Landlord, Backpack Hero, DR LIVESY ROM AND DEATH, Dicey Dungeons, Going Under, Just King, Legend of Bumbo, Moonlighter, Ring of Pain, Slay the Spire, Spelunky, and above all (at least for now) Shogun Showdown. If they keep up the good work then that game is an easy A possibly S tier for me.
Lot of great games on that list in my library that deserve more playtime from me
I love Roguelikes probably my favorite genre. I to have played most of the ones you did. But you missed a major one. Synthetik is literally my favorite Roguelike of all time and still is. I have almost 500 hours in it and still play it a lot solo and co-op with friends.
The giant tortilla hanging on the wall behind you looks delicious.
I also am loving Cult of the Lamb Schawarma
Thank you for providing an unbiased review. I would like to suggest adding Slay the Spire to the S tier. Initially, I found it difficult to beat even at level one. However, as time passed, I learned to appreciate the game's amazing deck building mechanics. I have played it for over 300 hours now and it continues to be a favorite of mine.
You should add Against the Storm and Rogue Tower to your list. Very interesting takes on the genre and pretty fun :D
Nice vid broski. i like how much u played each one in this list tp rate them all right. Good luck for ur channel!!
Where's Noita
Where's Synthetik
Where's Monster Train
Where's Crypt of the Necrodance
Where's Vault of the Void
is hollow knight included?
Crab Champions is unironically very good and very fun with a lot of replayability haha. RoR2 should definitely be S tier especially because of mods but I understand the A rating haha
Crab champions was very surprising to me
Honestly for me I would say mods make a lot of roguelites into S tier for me. Slay the spire for example was fun but mods made it S tier.
“C tier .. thats good. That was me in high school.”
That earned a sub in and of itseld
Thanks for the great video. And you may want to split Tape to Tape part cuz that section is also involves Tiny Rogues.
Thanks for watching and supporting and thanks for the heads up! Mistyped it in the description and never noticed
Missing games off the top of my head:
- Downwell
- Ziggurat
- Iratus
- Slay the Spire
- Monolith (now called Star of Providence)
- Spellbook Demonslayers
- Soulstone Survivors
- Sunless Sea / Sky
- Renowned Explorers
- Guild of Dungeoneering
- Kingsway
- BPM
- Halls of Torment
- Despotism 3k
- Runers
- Nordic Ashes
- Atomicrops
- World of Horror
- Hand of Fate
- Dicey Dungeons
- Crypt of the Necrodancer
- Into the Breach
Atomicrops and enter the gungeon is prob the ones that clicked with me the most. Cult of sheep
Streets of rogue
Great tier list, it surprised me dozens of times. Just think you could have included Atomicrops, definitely one of the best and most creative roguelikes out there! It's just so underrated :(
Thanks for supporting! Atomicrops is one in my steam library, but never had the time to get too it
How did Noita not get into this list? 😭😭 enjoyed the video though
half of these games aren't even roguelite and neither is noita.
@@vilerite Care to elaborate? Look up the term rougelite kido.
I’m so late to this party, but my most recent roguelite addiction is Blazblue Entropy Effect, the combat and variety is so clean. Love it
Enjoyed the list. I would highly recommend the roguelite Star of Providence (used to be called Monolith). It's one of my favorites!
Will need to look it up! Also, love the metroid profile picture! Top tier
I tried Slay the Spire for the first time this year coming from a MTG background. I really loved it, put like 40 hours, got asension 5 or something like that and then got kind of burned out. So I started searching for other deckbuilders that run well on steam deck. I bought Wildfrost and tbh, at first I really didn't get it but not in a "it's too hard" kind of way, more in like a "I'm not understanding how to exploit this game", because at the end of the day, thats the whole point of roguelites from what I feel like. After like 15 hours I got my first win which felt lucky but after that run I surprisingly completed other 3 runs in a row with different "strats". The ending btw is very special and a really cool twist which I highly recommend beating it just for that. Anyway, what I'm saying is that I don't think Wildfrost has an issue being hard but it doesn't convey how to play it/strategize correctly so it feels hard at the beginning. It's a fun game, definetly on the high B tier for me, you should give it another try! Tip: x4 and x5 heroes and cards are very strong!
If you want to play another Deckbuilder I have two recommendations for you: Monster Train as a roguelite and Steamworld Quest as an RPG
@@Kejosruler Didn't liked monster train since it was hard to read on my steam deck and the aesthetic didn't quite did it for me
@@LucasVogel Awww too bad! A friend and I had a lot of fun with the game
honesty I'm really biased about enter the gungeon but the tier list is VERY solid. *cough cough* enter the gungeon best game *cough cough*
Thanks for watching and supporting! Gungeon one of the greatest of all time for me
May I ask where you are from? I have never heard an accent like yours before.
Born in Boston. Lived in New Hampshire most my life and moved to Canada in 2020
@@Burr_ Thanks for the reply! And that makes a lot of sense. Super cool!
Coming straight from the previous tierlist and it's definitely Better. I also liked the fact that you added on most games the amount of time you played since helps to understand how much you digged in the game.
I agree on most of the games, like Curse of the Dead Gods and Have a Nice Death. I had the same feeling.
This time I HIGHLY agree with you about Isaac. I had like 90 hours so I know many would Say I Just completed the tutorial, I like this but I'm not so addicted to the game; of course I play It with the Item description Active, it's a Nightmare without It!
Finally, there's a lot of good game I never played until now that I'll try to include even on my small Channel.
Thank you for your work man, super appreciated!
You need to play Crypt of the Necrodancer. It is the most difficul roguelike I've ever played and one of the most fun for sure. It is a mix of roguelike and rhythm game.
Rogue Heroes is also great and it is a mix of roguelike and RPG adventure.
I’d love to see this list with Slay the Spire, Dead Estate, and Halls of Torment added, especially the last two, since we know that Slay the Spire is S-Tier
Any thoughts on Dead Estate or Halls of Torment??
I have seen a bit of Hells of Torment and it looks very good! Dead Estate looks like a game I would enjoy as well. Twin stick action shooters, right down my alley
Slay the Spire auto S tier. Too good.
I am a casual indie roguelites gamer and my current favourite is "Slice and Dice".
I think, I've played easily more than 100 h maybe over 200 h.
Pros: You"ll always find new mechanics, combos and synergies while playing, since there are a lot of items, curses, blessings and characters.
Cons: IMO, some high tier items dont feel like that powerful and a good run can be killed by a REALLY bad turn with 2-4 blank sides (which doesn't happen that often).
All in all, when I replay it, it doesnt get boring and thats what I want from roguelites.
Absolutely agree, especially now that the massive new update came out. This is the only mobile game I have ever spent money on, it's so good
Great list! Gives a good overview of what is available when people are looking for another rogue-lite fix. Besides Slay the Spire I would also suggest looking at Monster Train and Astrea.
WAY BETTER RANKINGS this time around! Enter the Gungeon, darkest dungeon, FTL! Nailed it bro, great vid
I misjudged the binding of isaac too, and regret it cause a friend gave me a copy of it for the psvita, and lost it in a flood. But been playing it on my switch every once in a while
Actually a super solid list. Anyone who's looking for another S-tier roguelite should check out Griftlands. Klei is always an incredible studio, and the production quality on Griftlands just blows everything else out of the water imo.
I enjoyed Griftlands for a while, but the actual gameplay started to feel bland too soon. Decks fall into set archetypes, there is just too much hard synergy and not a lot of space for creative deckbuilding. The actual RPG-like structure is really cool, I wish the game was better in the card battling regard, the potential would be astronomical.
A rogue lite tier list by someone who doesn't actually like rogue lites
???
Are you high when typing this comment?
Honestly ive had so much fun playing ship of fools with my partner. There's fun meta progression, and also a huge skill curve (first boss felt really hard, then second, then third, etc. - but once you learn it and get the feeling down it becomes way more manageable). To each their own, but its certainly not a D tier game imo, especially with a friend.
Side note, the game becomes much more manageable with designated roles. My girlfriend manned the stronger turret the whole game, i focused on reloading/maintaining ship with a sentry turret
I think it’s probably because he hasn’t tried the co-op. It’s so much better with co-op I loved it playing with my partner
Nice list. Darkest Dungeon is love. Quite a lot of games I'd recommend that I personally have enjoyed which aren't on this list - Iratus: Lord of the Dead, Legend of Keepers, Rogue Lords, Dungeon of the Endless, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Sin Slayers, Mistover.
Quite a few of those (the first three mentioned) have you play as the "bad guys" and so they give an interesting viewpoint as opposed to playing as the heroes like normal.
I am just now getting into roguelikes and i'm having a blast. Dome Keeper and Wizard of legend were fun little introductions to the genre and now i'm a few hours into Hades and it is absolutely amazing. Sifu has been on my list for a while as well, so that'll probably be next.
Sifu B tier?
People have different opinions
7:18 Sounds like a skill issue
Isaac is overrated. It's a pillar of the genre and can be argued to be the most IMPACTFUL roguelite to be made, but it has been outclassed at this point. So many games just have so much better gameplay or mechanics. I love Isaac and have put my fair share into it, but anyone who says it's an "easy S tier" are the ones who actually no nothing of the genre.
I'll also say; it's crazy how much of a downgrade DD2 is compared to DD1. I really don't think the devs understand what people liked about the first game at all.
There is not a single Roguelike in the market with the same replayability or build diversity as Isaac, not even close, i have hundreds of hours in the game and if i pick it now i know i will end up with some crazy builds ive never did before, no other game does it like Isaac did, looks like youre the one who knows nothign about the genre and/or Isaac, and dont even get me started on how that "little" game has a crazy story and alot of the characters and items have very deep religious meanings.
I watched this whole blasted thing to see where you ranked Slay the Spire
I’ll tell you right now I’ve played it since this video and it’s the best deck builder out there. A or S tier (I’m not the biggest into deck builders) but I do enjoy it a lot. Even though I haven’t been able to get the true ending
@@Burr_ thanks for your response, good to hear you enjoy it! I’m also struggling to get to the true ending. It’s my first deck builder so didn’t know what to expect, but loving it!
Number 1# for me at moment is Balatro amazing rougelike deck builder
I stopped watching as soon as he said he only had 30 hours in the binding of Isaac and proceeded to put it in A instead of S
Ok. Grow up
Thirty hours? That's basically just the tutorial.
Isaac is SSS tier, your tastes are shit, everything is boring on the list .
You will never have a play time longer than ISAAC, the only thing every other game lacks is replayability because EVERY run feels exactly the same with minor differences and synergies are WEAK in comparison to Isaac.
Poor taste
You’re one of those people who need to play more games. You insult me because I don’t mega praise Binding of Isaac. It’s weird behaviour
@@Burr_ "You’re one of those people who need to play more games" Bruh all you play is garbage. So many better games that should of been listed higher
I’d been sleeping on Inscryption until I saw it was the only S tier I hadn’t played in this list. Downloaded it free on ps+ and sunk 5 hours into it immediately. Game is absolutely amazing, S tier for sure, fantastic video! Thanks for the pro tip
Hey thanks for watching and supporting! I’m glad you’re enjoying it, it truly is a wonderful experience
Risk of Rain 2 has claimed 400 hours or my life. S tier personally. Good video!
I think it is criminal to not have risk of rain and the binding of Isaac in S tier those two are literally the best rougelite games ive ever played
I can strongly recommend playing Patch Quest. Its a really fun indie roguelite metroidvania.
wow, even now list is updated so much. I would suggest death must die, dicey dungeon and dd2 another shot
This is one of the best videos every next❤
Thanks for supporting!
"that either you will like, or you will dislike, depending on your tastes"
what is this sentence even
you got to try moonlighter, i absolutely adore that game.
Game tips to check out:
- Endless Dungeon
- the Last Spell
- Resogun
- Into The Breach