I just find it hilarious that Xigbar was weirdly popular with self insert shipping back in the day before we found out how much depth he had, guess the fangirls can always tell when someone is gonna be important
That has nothing to do with the whole luxu foreshadowing tho lol.. it's more of him being important n trust worthy in terms of rankings within the org..@@gregwilliams4926
Well since when they show kingdom hearts 358/2 days I knew it at that time when he was spying at axel and xion conversation and when he said what a blast from the past I knew he existed at the past before xehanort it was when I knew it had to be from the starting point which was kingdom hearts x back cover which I knew he existed at the past the keyblade war from back cover
The series really does get recontextualized if you indulge the idea of luxu being planned since Xigbar's introduction. Every throw away line of dialogue or random act of exposition could very well be intentional. I love subtly like that if that was the intention.
Have you ever stopped to think that since his first appearance, Xigbar always seemed to know more than he should? KH2: He mentions the heroes of the past, which would be the Trio from Birth By Sleep, and even mentions Ventus in particular. KH2FM: He demonstrated knowledge of the Keyblade War and was also the one who recruited Marluxia, who years later we would discover is Lauriam's Nobody from KHX. KHDays: He shows that he knows a boy who looks like Roxas (who at the time we didn't know would be Ventus or that he was the same person he mentioned to Sora in KH2) KHBbS: It is revealed that he had been working with Xehanort since before Organization XIII KHDDD: He was the only member of the organization who knew Xemnas' true intentions KH3: The Biggest Plot Twist of all, Xigbar was Luxu, MoM's former apprentice! Honorable Mention: KHXDR: It is revealed that he was one of Xehanort's classmates when he was still an apprentice.
It would be funny if the theory of Master of Masters is actually Demyx at 18:38 because that would just be Luxu and MoM just chilling next to each other lmao
Anyone else notice Braig's eyes go from brown to yellow in BBS? They're brown when you fight him as Terra, and yellow in the finale. So that means either 1. My man was "half xehanort" for a LOOOONG time or (and I don't believe this one as much but it's a fun thought experiment) 2. The man Terra fights REALLY is Braig, and between that ass beating and the conclusion, is when Luxu possesses him, and the pure darkness that he is carrying (since all the foretellers had one) is what turned his eyes yellow, since yellow eyes = darkness in the heart, not purely a Nort heart shard.
@@zayneabdelmegid2740 ah yes you're right. I knew there was something that would disprove that (I even said I didn't quite believe theory number 2 as much) but I couldn't recall what it was. Just something in the back of my mind was telling me it wasn't likely.
Yep a lot of us knew he was more than just a rando. I do remember back in the day wishing Zexion had more of a role (I guess cause he had a book a cool name and look). Oh well!!! Lol.
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 Holy shit. Do you think they'd bring back riku's keenness for smelling darkness for future titles? Specifically for smelling whether someone has a darkness attached to them?
I’m starting to think he was referring the the master of masters. For one, he has blue eyes because even in bbs he said ven “has the angry look down” even though they didn’t interact in Union x. I’m thinking he’s ven or sora grown.
Three possible layers to this. 1: he's simply referring to roxas 2: he's referring to ventus from the bbs times 3: he's referring to ventus from a more ancient times
Man, Xigbar really has always been trash talking, trolling and enjoying himself every second. Almost like he has everything planned out in his 5d Chess, Galaxy Brain mind game. The only thing he really needs to look out for is to not laugh *too* hard in everyone's faces. 22:12 does he really know/care where namine is chillin or does he just piss of Saix *in front of Xemnas* for the fun of it?
Xigbar is implied to know. But he is the Traitor who makes more betrayers. So, Namine needs to finish fix Sora. It is also implied that he knows Saix is in the Organization for Subject X and betraying behind the scenes, and Xigbar knows things......
I'm going to blow everyone's mind that was a 90s kid and watched Seinfeld. If you saw the episode where Kramer has the Japanese tourists sleep in the chest of drawers he got from Elaine's boyfriend that is obsessed with furniture from that designer...that guy is Xigbar's voice actor lol. Of all people, the random dude in an episode of Seinfeld turned out to be the voice actor of Xigbar from Kingdom Hearts...so random. I know at least 10 people reading this know what I'm talking about, isn't that the most random this ever? Xaldin's voice actor was the shoe shining guy at the stock exchange in the Dark Knight Rising that works for Bane and immediately after the guy gets up, he grabs the gun because obviously he part of the stock exchange heist with Bane. Oh the random things you find out looking up people's filmographies.
When I saw Kingdom hearts 2 animation in those cutscenes and I'm looking the majority of the games actually....something has been lost during those years...
There's so much personality in the mannerisms. The future games tend to do the thing where a character stands stock still while talking, using stilted arm movements to enunciated certain words, only to return to their default position once they finish dropping exposition.
1:22:06 I wouldn’t even know what to say. “Keyblade Master,” “power of friends,” whatever. Forget plot armor. The fact replica Riku harnessed so much darkness that he made a giant Xehanort Heartless would have me throw my keyblade down without saying a word, hop in my gummi ship and head straight back to Destiny Islands. Dude said he’s been wanting to run the fade with Riku since Castle Oblivion lol
6:48 not trying to ask a dumb question but where does this scene fit in the timeline does it take place during the events of KH1 before hollow bastion?
I want to learn the identity of the Master of Masters just as badly as replica Riku wanted to be his own person in Chain of Memories. Once they reveal to us the true intentions of Luxu and Marluxia on top of that, I’ll probably faint.
Probably ventus,cuz I don’t remember seeing roxas being that angry with xigbar before,the only ones that roxas really showed that look was with riku at the end of 258/2 days and ansem the wise.
@@celinbraz8672 it's interesting that Xigbar went to talk to sora first like that. Because really? What did he gain by going down there? Probably wasn't an order from Xemnas either.
@@emmaray6215as the chess game eraqas and xehenort play at the end of KH3, it shows they will play a big part, but who knows? Maybe it might be later than KH4
Xigbar knows the First Organization has to Fail so the True Organization can Appear. So, he is trying to incite Betrayal. Specifically, if Zexion knows about the Chamber of Awakening, and Saix knows he knows, Saix will sent Axel to get rid of him. As Xigbar wanted.
So i had the chance to buy either the 1.5 collection or the 2.5 collection and i chose the 1.5 collection cause i didn't know squat about the games in the 2.5 collection so i decided to buy he 1.5 collection. I KNEW I SHOULD'VE GOTTEN THE 2.5 COLLECTION THESE GAMES ARE INSANELY BETTER THEN THE ONES ON THE FIRST COLLECTION. P.S. I also thought that they actually let you play 258/2 days in the 1.5 remix
haha I mean you really should of bought the collection with both of them but if you couldn't, then yes you made the right choice. While 2 is immensely better than the first game, you gotta play them in order.
Old comment, but the PS4 Collections are the way to go since the PS3 ports are very flawed from a performance standpoint (load times and framerate are worse on PS3). It is also best to play the games in release order (1 -> CoM -> 2 -> Days -> BBS -> Coded -> 3D -> X series [I guess] -> 0.2 -> 3 -> MoM). Day and Re:coded are still stuck on the DS from a gameplay standpoint, however. I wished those titles had proper remakes as they were fun on the DS.
Sora's line to xigbar hits different now "aren't you scared of turning into someone else."
Honestly, I think Xigbar was internally saying something like “This ain’t my first rodeo, kiddo.”
He already WAS someone else...
Xeanort pretending to be chained to a pillar is hilarious to me.
Braig pretending to fear Xehanort is hilarious to me.
Braig trying to shoot at Xehanort is hilarious to me.
Luxu pretending to be Braig is hilarious to me.
@@Choosafunga777 Luxu turning into diet MoM is hilarious to me
Farts are hilarious to me, and I'm 32.
I just find it hilarious that Xigbar was weirdly popular with self insert shipping back in the day before we found out how much depth he had, guess the fangirls can always tell when someone is gonna be important
I felt called out when reading this comment LMAO
Can you blame them? The man's gorgeous.
@@s.leepysQuick, tell me who's really the most important in Tower of God.
He really is that "as if" guy
Xigbar being Luxu makes too much sense, even given his interactions with everyone in KH2 and BBS.
Nomura *definitely* had this planned.
He's number II for a reason.
That has nothing to do with the whole luxu foreshadowing tho lol.. it's more of him being important n trust worthy in terms of rankings within the org..@@gregwilliams4926
I knew it back then since 2011-2013
Well since when they show kingdom hearts 358/2 days I knew it at that time when he was spying at axel and xion conversation and when he said what a blast from the past I knew he existed at the past before xehanort it was when I knew it had to be from the starting point which was kingdom hearts x back cover which I knew he existed at the past the keyblade war from back cover
Did anyone else notice Xigbar clearly giving Sora too much information throughout. Clearly undermining Xehenort, at the very least
The series really does get recontextualized if you indulge the idea of luxu being planned since Xigbar's introduction. Every throw away line of dialogue or random act of exposition could very well be intentional. I love subtly like that if that was the intention.
Look how happy he was in ddd when sora used my friends are my power "duh!!" smiley mcgee lmao
Have you ever stopped to think that since his first appearance, Xigbar always seemed to know more than he should?
KH2: He mentions the heroes of the past, which would be the Trio from Birth By Sleep, and even mentions Ventus in particular.
KH2FM: He demonstrated knowledge of the Keyblade War and was also the one who recruited Marluxia, who years later we would discover is Lauriam's Nobody from KHX.
KHDays: He shows that he knows a boy who looks like Roxas (who at the time we didn't know would be Ventus or that he was the same person he mentioned to Sora in KH2)
KHBbS: It is revealed that he had been working with Xehanort since before Organization XIII
KHDDD: He was the only member of the organization who knew Xemnas' true intentions
KH3: The Biggest Plot Twist of all, Xigbar was Luxu, MoM's former apprentice!
Honorable Mention: KHXDR: It is revealed that he was one of Xehanort's classmates when he was still an apprentice.
Traverses between realms...interesting
Funny how luxu recruited marluxia
Before the series is over I'm betting Marluxia is going to have a big role with helping Sora and the others fight Darkness.
@Jamaal Barberr does anyone even fall for this?
@@merlivider3300, By that logic, Larxene should too. Imagine if they recognized Ven.
@@emmaray6215 They most likely well, since the next time we see them, they'll be recomplete
It would be funny if the theory of Master of Masters is actually Demyx at 18:38 because that would just be Luxu and MoM just chilling next to each other lmao
if the next saga doesnt have xigbar effing around just cuz he can, i will riot
I swear, when he was talking to Zexion, he sounded and acted a LOT like the Master of Masters… mannerisms and such
Anyone else notice Braig's eyes go from brown to yellow in BBS? They're brown when you fight him as Terra, and yellow in the finale. So that means either
1. My man was "half xehanort" for a LOOOONG time
or (and I don't believe this one as much but it's a fun thought experiment)
2. The man Terra fights REALLY is Braig, and between that ass beating and the conclusion, is when Luxu possesses him, and the pure darkness that he is carrying (since all the foretellers had one) is what turned his eyes yellow, since yellow eyes = darkness in the heart, not purely a Nort heart shard.
A good conclusion, but It’s said in the kh3 secret reports that Luxu was possessing Braig the whole time.
@@zayneabdelmegid2740 ah yes you're right. I knew there was something that would disprove that (I even said I didn't quite believe theory number 2 as much) but I couldn't recall what it was. Just something in the back of my mind was telling me it wasn't likely.
It was hinted at us from the get go at 358/2 days...
Traverses between realms....
Yep a lot of us knew he was more than just a rando. I do remember back in the day wishing Zexion had more of a role (I guess cause he had a book a cool name and look). Oh well!!! Lol.
@@TheDaysEnd Well, Zexion can sense the darkness even as Ienzo. I won't be surprised if he has seen Them before.
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 Holy shit. Do you think they'd bring back riku's keenness for smelling darkness for future titles? Specifically for smelling whether someone has a darkness attached to them?
@@runemaster8656 In Dark Road, it is called "Seeing a Heart", and becoming one with them, so yes.
“Only one me!” laughs in Roxas Xion Ventus Vanitas
It’s weird how luxu luxord and then demyx were the first to comment on sora boldly.
Son of a keyblade was talking about the war like he wasn't there to see it first hand lol
Wow Saix/Isa had to deal with all this guys mind games the whole time 😅
He used to give me that same exact look. Holy, imagine he was refering to the MoM or like Ephemera.
I’m starting to think he was referring the the master of masters. For one, he has blue eyes because even in bbs he said ven “has the angry look down” even though they didn’t interact in Union x. I’m thinking he’s ven or sora grown.
No he's talking about ventus
Three possible layers to this.
1: he's simply referring to roxas
2: he's referring to ventus from the bbs times
3: he's referring to ventus from a more ancient times
I really find Luxu to be the best character of kingdom hearts
Man, Xigbar really has always been trash talking, trolling and enjoying himself every second.
Almost like he has everything planned out in his 5d Chess, Galaxy Brain mind game.
The only thing he really needs to look out for is to not laugh *too* hard in everyone's faces.
22:12 does he really know/care where namine is chillin or does he just piss of Saix *in front of Xemnas* for the fun of it?
Xigbar is implied to know. But he is the Traitor who makes more betrayers. So, Namine needs to finish fix Sora.
It is also implied that he knows Saix is in the Organization for Subject X and betraying behind the scenes, and Xigbar knows things......
Valentin Cassadine is Xigbar, I'm quite impressed!
You know... LUXU rhymes with MUSHU. It's time for a snipe off
Xigbar is a slightly mild form of Majima from Yakuza, no I won’t explain further.
I'm going to blow everyone's mind that was a 90s kid and watched Seinfeld. If you saw the episode where Kramer has the Japanese tourists sleep in the chest of drawers he got from Elaine's boyfriend that is obsessed with furniture from that designer...that guy is Xigbar's voice actor lol. Of all people, the random dude in an episode of Seinfeld turned out to be the voice actor of Xigbar from Kingdom Hearts...so random. I know at least 10 people reading this know what I'm talking about, isn't that the most random this ever? Xaldin's voice actor was the shoe shining guy at the stock exchange in the Dark Knight Rising that works for Bane and immediately after the guy gets up, he grabs the gun because obviously he part of the stock exchange heist with Bane. Oh the random things you find out looking up people's filmographies.
Who know this dude was the brains of it all the whole time lol
When I saw Kingdom hearts 2 animation in those cutscenes and I'm looking the majority of the games actually....something has been lost during those years...
There's so much personality in the mannerisms. The future games tend to do the thing where a character stands stock still while talking, using stilted arm movements to enunciated certain words, only to return to their default position once they finish dropping exposition.
1:22:06 I wouldn’t even know what to say.
“Keyblade Master,” “power of friends,” whatever. Forget plot armor. The fact replica Riku harnessed so much darkness that he made a giant Xehanort
Heartless would have me throw my keyblade down without saying a word, hop in my gummi ship and head straight back to Destiny Islands.
Dude said he’s been wanting to run the fade with Riku since Castle Oblivion lol
And then the end of Union Cross happened...
6:48 not trying to ask a dumb question but where does this scene fit in the timeline does it take place during the events of KH1 before hollow bastion?
56:30
Xigbar: the “bro” in the shadows
Terra: You're apparently not a very good liar.....
Me: Yes He is a good liar Bro!
Check out the Re Mind cutscenes that feature Xigbar here: ua-cam.com/video/6L72LP0p2UA/v-deo.html
I want to learn the identity of the Master of Masters just as badly as replica Riku wanted to be his own person in Chain of Memories.
Once they reveal to us the true intentions of Luxu and Marluxia on top of that, I’ll probably faint.
2:45 was it Roxas or Ventus Xigbar he was talking about?
Probably ventus,cuz I don’t remember seeing roxas being that angry with xigbar before,the only ones that roxas really showed that look was with riku at the end of 258/2 days and ansem the wise.
@@celinbraz8672 it's interesting that Xigbar went to talk to sora first like that. Because really? What did he gain by going down there? Probably wasn't an order from Xemnas either.
If it’s Ventus when? All the way back then or the last decade or so?
Wow I always assumed it was Roxas never even considered ventus even though those 2 know eachother from before
Initially? Roxas prior to his game. After? Probably Ventus.
I hope they make a kingdom hearts 4 soon
At least 15 years😂
Less than that 7 years at least
well dont i have a surprise for you :)
I hope Luxu and the Foretellers have a big role in KH4.
@@emmaray6215as the chess game eraqas and xehenort play at the end of KH3, it shows they will play a big part, but who knows? Maybe it might be later than KH4
is it just me or has Sora not trash talked this much in any other KH game?
Sora's personality peaked in 2. He regressed hard in DDD, and didn't recover at all 3 in, only regressed further.
28:40
"I'm going back to my room!"
My question is: why did he egg Zexion on like that?
Xigbar knows the First Organization has to Fail so the True Organization can Appear. So, he is trying to incite Betrayal. Specifically, if Zexion knows about the Chamber of Awakening, and Saix knows he knows, Saix will sent Axel to get rid of him. As Xigbar wanted.
Ohhhhh
Xigbar is such a snitch! Axel didn't attack Xion!
Nolan Pass
So i had the chance to buy either the 1.5 collection or the 2.5 collection and i chose the 1.5 collection cause i didn't know squat about the games in the 2.5 collection so i decided to buy he 1.5 collection. I KNEW I SHOULD'VE GOTTEN THE 2.5 COLLECTION THESE GAMES ARE INSANELY BETTER THEN THE ONES ON THE FIRST COLLECTION.
P.S. I also thought that they actually let you play 258/2 days in the 1.5 remix
haha I mean you really should of bought the collection with both of them but if you couldn't, then yes you made the right choice. While 2 is immensely better than the first game, you gotta play them in order.
Old comment, but the PS4 Collections are the way to go since the PS3 ports are very flawed from a performance standpoint (load times and framerate are worse on PS3). It is also best to play the games in release order (1 -> CoM -> 2 -> Days -> BBS -> Coded -> 3D -> X series [I guess] -> 0.2 -> 3 -> MoM).
Day and Re:coded are still stuck on the DS from a gameplay standpoint, however. I wished those titles had proper remakes as they were fun on the DS.