Hasbro CEO: how can we get a siege voyager triple changer be justified for a "new leader" figure? Hasbro worker 1: bigger figure! Hasbro worker 2: better articulation and gap fillers Hasbro worker 3: harder transformation Hasbro CEO: you're all fired....what about you worker #4? Worker 4: remodel only a few small pieces and pack in 5× the accessories! Hasbro CEO: youre a genius! Here's the other 3 pay rates for a bonus!
“Let’s begin to flip this sucker down. Next what you’re gonna wanna do is to make use of this hinge panel, and begin to flip this sucker out. Next you wanna take the foot design, and begin to move it around like so. Next you’re gonna wanna…”
I think a much bigger factor in the price increase is the higher parts count. It's clear that the budget for this figure is higher; the transformation is more elaborate, completely hiding the robot face and covering the underside more thoroughly; the shoulders let you sit the pauldrons sideways; the back is completely remolded and has articulated parts; the biceps and thighs are now 2-part molds; etc. It's obvious Siege Springer was "as good as we can do with the budget." I do think they should have gone the extra mile and remolded the lower legs too.
I was not liking It but The fact the torso seems to work differently Is making me reconsider. I Have the old one in the comic color and I like It quite a lot except for the fact that It falls appart pretty easily as the entire upper body Is tangled on itself. Here the chest going down and the arms not falling appart does imply It Is More solid
@@leonake4194 I can confirm that the torso and legs on 86 Springer hold together MUCH more solidly than on Siege Springer. Nothing is going to accidentally come undone. That said, it's still a bit of a crap-shoot if the ankles on your copy will hold; my Siege Springer has never had an issue with his ankles while the ones on my 86 Springer are a little loose.
I have the original and now I have this one, I can see they made a lot of improvements. The original actually broke because the chest piece was so hard to change from vehicle to robot
The same thing in my case. I’m so glad I didn’t over paid for the siege figure even though I was tempted. And I didn’t like the wreck and rule either. Although I would’ve bought it if it had the right autobot symbol. That blue symbol turned me off.
I can understand people saying "if you have Siege Springer, this isn't worth it", but my WFC Springer will be sold and replaced by this guy 🤩. I'm a sucker for that unfolding sword rotor
Yes, I'm really happy with his additional armaments. Especially that blade. It's way better than the current one which I really have difficulty keeping on the figure due to the way it just pops off.
I'm a sucker for Springer as he's one of my favorite character so I've pre-ordered this guy but, I'm keeping my Siege Springer as well. I also have Fans Toys, MMC and XTB Springer as my Masterpieces with XTB being my favorite.
I can't get a single tab to do anything it's supposed to. This doesn't snap together at all, just sort of stays there for a second and then pop out the moment you look at it.
I just had a theory. Since Hasbro had made Legacy Transmetal 2 Megatron, with the other Predacons, and they just made TigerHawk, and then SilverBolt. Does that mean that they may make Transmetal Megatron in his T Rex form, Transmetal Cheetor, Transmetal 2 Cheetor, Transmetal 2 Dinobot, Transmetal Black Arachnia, QuickStrike, Transmetal Tranantulas, Optimal Optimus if I’m saying it correctly if not someone say it please, then Transmetal Rattrap, and then finally Depth Charge?
Probably on the long list of pieces they want to make, but they need new molds for most of them and they like to milk the old molds for 3 or 4 figures. I am hoping they get a new Octane and Broadside figure made. I was also thinking this Springer would have been awesome with a launcher from the movie and smaller missiles. I have it and love it.
Everyone is upset about the price increase, but to me, the real difference will be build quality This design might have been sold at a steal of a price before but in-hand it was a mess. The mold was too ambitious for the price point’s build quality- mine had wacky tolerances that prevented it from holding together, with stress marks showing up as well. Basically it was a time bomb The new parts and paint look good but if it actually were just executed better with tighter fit, that would be the biggest improvement and well worth the price point. Anyone that has the original (or Wreckers version) can attest to how scary the chest connections are Don’t think of it as a Voyager being priced up to a Leadwr Think of it as a Leader that sold as a Voyager by cutting cost on fitment and crappy plastic Oh, and ditching the stupid battle damage is big too
This still has the same engineering & all the same issues when it comes to the leg design (with the exception of the knees detaching) - this figure definitely is an improvement visually but at its core it’s still the same as the voyager priced released
I’m glad they seemed to fix the QC issue with that flap on the arms or whatever it was that kept coming off when transforming him into helicopter mode. I have never owned a triple changer before and I’m going to get him but I have a question. Do you HAVE to go through all three modes to get to the 3rd? Like can u go from robot to helicopter without going through vehicle mode? And that question goes in the reverse with all modes.
This does concern me a little with future studio series 86 optimus prime and Soundwave. How different will they be to their counterparts to warrant a higher price?
Awesome video!!! This SS 86 Springer is a definite buy for me!!! I have WFC Springer, but this Springer is light-years better...I can live with the legs being re-used, but otherwise he looks like he jumped right out of season 3!!!
Primevsprime I've gotten wrecker springer but his knees are so loose and the chest parts are loose please tell me they've fixed em on 86 cuz i might get 86 if they have
Atfer all the effort I made stripping the battle damage paint and repainting my Siege Springer figure (the yellow paint in particular was a headache) I just can't justifying spending the asking price on this new figure. Siege is close enough.
I got the Legacy one (from the Wreck 'n Rule Collection) and don't see enough to justify the increase to leader class pricing - legs really need a rework.
Also… Love the channel and this review. Can’t wait for him to ship! Trying to complete the entire 86 line with the exception of the battle damaged stuff.
I want to get this Springer, but something inside me tells that I'm fine with my Thrilling 30 Springer, which is, for all intents and purposes, one of the best Transformers figures ever made. And speaking of Thrilling 30, when are you going to review your Thrilling 30 Sky-Byte in preparation for the upcoming Sky-Byte in the new toyline next year?
Tbh I am so glad this figure is coming out, cause my wreckers springers clear plastic backpack, the tabs on it snapped off and now it’s not as stable, so I hope history doesn’t repeat itself when I get this new one
Is it sad to say that I'd rather wait for DNA design to make an upgrade kit (that would probably come with waaaaaay more accessories & proper movie accurate parts) than to re-buy another Springer.😮💨
Not being able to get a Siege Springer, I'm left with little choice if I want this "bad boy" in my collection. I'm sure DNA or noneff can develop some mods for the legs and such.
During your car alt-mode transformation, why did you leave the top pieces of the backpack angled up? They should fold down into the sides of the car, not be raised.
For one, I appreciate that in your review, you've actually posed Springer's pauldrons to its proper position unlike some reviewers who stated that they would correct their look (cough - ToysrRuss - cough) in their review but didn't. I mean that is one of its new features!!! 😔 Also, thank you for being honest and in detailing the differences and the overall value of this new Springer.
Its cool that the rotors fold into a sword, but i wish they added maybe a pin joint or something lengthwise in one side of the sword so that it could rotate and make the rotors face the correct way
Hello! Awesome review! I was wondering if the legs still have the problem of disconnecting with the transformation joint in the knees when trying to articulate it, Does it still have that problem?
@@PrimeVsPrimeI had it when I was a kid, and it looks good so when u got time give it a shot. But I gotta rebuy mine since it broke when I used to play with it.
received my springer and lots of the joints are either too loose or too tight, the tabs between the legs have already got stress marks and i cannot tab the shoulders in at all
In my opinion these false leader classes should be recategorized as something new like Voyager Plus or something if they're really that desperate to get the extra money without increasing the figure's size. It would at least be far less controversial that way
That sounds cool and fitting. It Also would help better shape the hype of the fans. That way we would know what type of figure to expect instead of wondering wether itll be a large figure or an involved voyager
I’m collecting transformers for the first time since I was a kid , I want to be consistent with my pick ups , what’s the best toy line for transformers ?? Is it studio series , Legacy, yolopark ?? If y’all can comment I would appreciate it
The QC issues on my legacy springer have me wanting to sell it, and this one looks like a fix for those issues. Are the QC issues fixed, like the weird leg movement thing, the skirt unhinging, and the entire chest part literally falling apart? If the issues are all fixed I would agree with the leader class name.
Great vid as always. In hasbro's livestream where they announced this figure, they talked about the fold-out arm canon. So I search for a springer review, and I find yours! Yay! I want to see the arm canon! Then I see the "arm canon" is a tiny dinky little piece of light green plastic. An extra $25 usd gets me -- let's see -- a catapult missile with unpainted fins, a purplish blaster even though his blaster isn't purple, a sword/helicopter rotor that cannot take the cool swooosh effect that came with siege battle masters lionizer, a sword, and a tiny dinky light green blaster thingy. I'm not sure I want to spend the $35 usd this might get marked down to at Target.
I do have the previous springer and love him but my main collection is the SS86 line so I’ll be getting him for that reason lol He does look good and love your review
This looks better than the fans toys apache(springer) than i own and is the best springer ever, i was lucky to preorder him, steeljaw and bumblebee from zavvi as this guys is sold out literally everywher, i only need ss86 perceptor, ramhorn and rewind to complete my g1 autobots team, perceptor is the only one i missed out but luckily he is in the upcoming 3 pack so i am def getting that 3 pack, no news on rewind though, thank you pvp for giving us an early glimpse of this guy
I came from a time where all my toys could do was move the arms up and down and you might get some leg movements lol I get it tho alot of collectors now days are younger and are use to this type of thing so yea I see where you are coming from but for me this is a great toy
Hey primevsprime! Do u plan on preordering and reviewing the bailan roadmaster 07 optimus prime? Like luckycat it has some of the best detail and accuracy of an 07 optimus prime and could give the black apple optimus some competition, and it transforms! Not to mention its legends scale which is just black magic
@@PrimeVsPrime i heard it got delayed a bit because they had to rework the transformation or something like that but hopefully it releases soon! Just from the pics alone its an instant cop for me
I never got the older mold of this figure so honestly I'm glad I get to pick him up in the studio series line. Thank you primevsprime for yet another banging review 🫡
Honestly, I'm looking forward to getting this guy. When Hasbro first announced him, I wasn't surprised that they re-used the Siege Mold Springer and slapped on accessories for a Leader Class price point but look at some of the previous figures that had the same issue I mean Blitzwing, and Sandstorm could have been sold as voyager but hey that is Hasbro and that is what they do now
@@PrimeVsPrime I agree, I mean with the amount of plastic they throw in for extras and charge it for a higher leader class price is a bit much, but and this just me I'm a stickler for scale size and I hated the leader class sized figures before Hasbro changed things up for WFC Trilogy and I like the scale they have now. It is what it is
It's pretty frustrating it's a leader now, I missed the siege version and third party it goes 40-50 now. Didn't like the Wreck N rule color deco. So I'm gonna have to swallow the premium price point since I don't have him yet.
Ikr?! Especially as the engineering is the same as the voyager class! With the inclusion of that random hammer, it really seems they were just trying to justify the leader price point
Definitely gonna get it. I don’t have a Spinger. Definitely more accurate and I like the color scheme a lot more than the previous versions. I hope there’s an upgrade kit that addresses balancing issue in the future. That’s really unfortunate.
First off, I can’t see many differences between this and the Siege version outside of different articulation, is there anything else? Second this looks alright to me, not too crazy about this. Hope that many people enjoy having a more movie accurate version of Springer now.
Hey PvP, how well does the chest stay attached to the rest of the torso? My WrecknRule Springer is allergic to staying together up there, and its a shame they didn't improve the ankles but if at least the chest is improved I'll consider picking up this guy haha
@@PrimeVsPrime That's awesome to hear. I agree that leader price for an edited voyager + accessory pack is a bit much but WrecknRule Springer was so disappointing it makes me want to pick up this one
For the amount they bumped up the price I would've definitely liked to have seen some details painted on the accessories, especially the shell, but this does look like a sick figure! Just gotta convince myself to part with leader money for a voyager with some kibble and bits thrown in
PVP : he comes with the sword he used to face off against the Junkions my brain : remembers that Weird Al Yankovic is voicing Cosmos in season 2 of TF Earthspark me : guess Cosmos is gonna dare to be stupid eh?
"I've got better things to do tonight than spend $65 (after taxes) on a retooled $35 toy." - Current Economy Springer
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Wait, you pay $15 in sales tax?
@@taqresu5865 $55.99 for the figure $5.50 taxes $4.00 shipping.
@@taqresu5865they’re $55 in the US now
@@taqresu5865 Leaders are 55 now.
So 10 in sales taxes.
It kinda feels like someone added cheese to a $5 hamburger, and then doubled the price. But it's really good cheese.
This is literally the best description of this figure I have ever seen and most likely ever will see
Haha that is a really good way to put it!
Youre a moron
Take a drink everytime he says "sucker" or "bad boy".
Nevermind, I've got better things to do tonight than die.
😆😆😆
Or "Something along the lines of this"
Or every time he makes a 👈🏼 or 🫶🏼
what about "something along the lines of that"
😂😂😂😂
0:05
Springer: get off of me Arcee I’m not your personal chauffeur!
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Yeah, he'd TOTALLY say that.....
He can spell chauffeur
Ooh fancy pants rich McGee over here f you
Hasbro CEO: how can we get a siege voyager triple changer be justified for a "new leader" figure?
Hasbro worker 1: bigger figure!
Hasbro worker 2: better articulation and gap fillers
Hasbro worker 3: harder transformation
Hasbro CEO: you're all fired....what about you worker #4?
Worker 4: remodel only a few small pieces and pack in 5× the accessories!
Hasbro CEO: youre a genius! Here's the other 3 pay rates for a bonus!
They put all of these in bruh don’t bullshit
Nailed it 😂
As if Hasbro would give their workers bonuses like that.
@@Macrochenia the pay rate was 2 bucks a person
“Let’s begin to flip this sucker down. Next what you’re gonna wanna do is to make use of this hinge panel, and begin to flip this sucker out. Next you wanna take the foot design, and begin to move it around like so. Next you’re gonna wanna…”
“Slide this into that gaping hole” 👀 when you transcript my narration for transformations … it begins to sound … kinda SUS!
You missed the bit about the big meaty slot 😂😂😂
@@PrimeVsPrime You also need to call every part a "sucker" more often, don't forget that.
Why does the comment section have to be like this 😂
I think a much bigger factor in the price increase is the higher parts count. It's clear that the budget for this figure is higher; the transformation is more elaborate, completely hiding the robot face and covering the underside more thoroughly; the shoulders let you sit the pauldrons sideways; the back is completely remolded and has articulated parts; the biceps and thighs are now 2-part molds; etc. It's obvious Siege Springer was "as good as we can do with the budget." I do think they should have gone the extra mile and remolded the lower legs too.
I was not liking It but The fact the torso seems to work differently Is making me reconsider. I Have the old one in the comic color and I like It quite a lot except for the fact that It falls appart pretty easily as the entire upper body Is tangled on itself.
Here the chest going down and the arms not falling appart does imply It Is More solid
@@leonake4194 I can confirm that the torso and legs on 86 Springer hold together MUCH more solidly than on Siege Springer. Nothing is going to accidentally come undone. That said, it's still a bit of a crap-shoot if the ankles on your copy will hold; my Siege Springer has never had an issue with his ankles while the ones on my 86 Springer are a little loose.
I have the original and now I have this one, I can see they made a lot of improvements. The original actually broke because the chest piece was so hard to change from vehicle to robot
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Wasn’t expecting this today but I love it!
Haha thanks!
I never had the original Siege verison and always wanted it so this leader class release was a Godsend
The same thing in my case. I’m so glad I didn’t over paid for the siege figure even though I was tempted. And I didn’t like the wreck and rule either. Although I would’ve bought it if it had the right autobot symbol. That blue symbol turned me off.
When you posted that you had this Springer ready for a review last night, I was so excited for it and I’m glad I was able to catch up!
I can understand people saying "if you have Siege Springer, this isn't worth it", but my WFC Springer will be sold and replaced by this guy 🤩. I'm a sucker for that unfolding sword rotor
Ah fair enough mate! I just think for the price point, they could’ve done way more especially with the legs
@@PrimeVsPrime I agree, and a couple of the other accessories I could live without. Like that second sword
Yes, I'm really happy with his additional armaments. Especially that blade. It's way better than the current one which I really have difficulty keeping on the figure due to the way it just pops off.
I'm a sucker for Springer as he's one of my favorite character so I've pre-ordered this guy but, I'm keeping my Siege Springer as well. I also have Fans Toys, MMC and XTB Springer as my Masterpieces with XTB being my favorite.
If you have 1 springer then you have them all. Not worth leader price.
I can't get a single tab to do anything it's supposed to. This doesn't snap together at all, just sort of stays there for a second and then pop out the moment you look at it.
Really loving “The pose test” :)
Awesome review!
Top shelf review as usual mate.
Thank you so much mate! Big thanks for your kind words! 🙏🏻🔥
9:02 I can’t get the shoulders taped into place here no matter what I do it seems, the slot and the peg just aren’t lining up.
Do you have any advice?
Been looking forward to your review. Best on youtube.
Ah thank you so much! Much appreciated! 🙏🏻🔥
Studio Series 86 6:06 and 13:29 Siege 20:39 Springers
It's crazy how Springer's become one of my favorite Transformers, and I'm as enthused to see him finally make his debut in the Energon-verse!
I just had a theory. Since Hasbro had made Legacy Transmetal 2 Megatron, with the other Predacons, and they just made TigerHawk, and then SilverBolt. Does that mean that they may make Transmetal Megatron in his T Rex form, Transmetal Cheetor, Transmetal 2 Cheetor, Transmetal 2 Dinobot, Transmetal Black Arachnia, QuickStrike, Transmetal Tranantulas, Optimal Optimus if I’m saying it correctly if not someone say it please, then Transmetal Rattrap, and then finally Depth Charge?
I'd certainly hope a Quickstrike will be coming at some point along with Depth Charge and Rampage, but it might not be for quite some time.
Yeah you’re probably right
Probably on the long list of pieces they want to make, but they need new molds for most of them and they like to milk the old molds for 3 or 4 figures.
I am hoping they get a new Octane and Broadside figure made.
I was also thinking this Springer would have been awesome with a launcher from the movie and smaller missiles. I have it and love it.
Never got the siege so I’m definitely picking this guy up to compliment the sandstorm! Great review!
Thank you very much! Glad you like it!
I'm not a huge fan of repaints / remolds but I'm definitely gonna try to pick this up
Everyone is upset about the price increase, but to me, the real difference will be build quality
This design might have been sold at a steal of a price before but in-hand it was a mess. The mold was too ambitious for the price point’s build quality- mine had wacky tolerances that prevented it from holding together, with stress marks showing up as well. Basically it was a time bomb
The new parts and paint look good but if it actually were just executed better with tighter fit, that would be the biggest improvement and well worth the price point. Anyone that has the original (or Wreckers version) can attest to how scary the chest connections are
Don’t think of it as a Voyager being priced up to a Leadwr
Think of it as a Leader that sold as a Voyager by cutting cost on fitment and crappy plastic
Oh, and ditching the stupid battle damage is big too
Ditching the stupid battle damage somehow makes it a better Leader? Lol
This still has the same engineering & all the same issues when it comes to the leg design (with the exception of the knees detaching) - this figure definitely is an improvement visually but at its core it’s still the same as the voyager priced released
@@PrimeVsPrimethe legs were less the issue than the torso - does that hold together better?
Another figure I’m definitely buying, thanks for the review!
Thank you very much! 🤩🔥
Hello prime your videos are very fun to watch because the fire thingies
Thank you mate! 👊🏻🔥
@@PrimeVsPrime np 👊🏻
I’m glad they seemed to fix the QC issue with that flap on the arms or whatever it was that kept coming off when transforming him into helicopter mode.
I have never owned a triple changer before and I’m going to get him but I have a question. Do you HAVE to go through all three modes to get to the 3rd? Like can u go from robot to helicopter without going through vehicle mode? And that question goes in the reverse with all modes.
Yeah... I'm okay with my siege Springer. Great review
Thanks so much!
This does concern me a little with future studio series 86 optimus prime and Soundwave. How different will they be to their counterparts to warrant a higher price?
Awesome video!!! This SS 86 Springer is a definite buy for me!!! I have WFC Springer, but this Springer is light-years better...I can live with the legs being re-used, but otherwise he looks like he jumped right out of season 3!!!
Thank you very much mate! 🙏🏻🔥
Very cool video primevsprime
Thanks so much!
Just waiting for SS86 Bumblebee now 😮💨
Me too! 🐝
Primevsprime I've gotten wrecker springer but his knees are so loose and the chest parts are loose please tell me they've fixed em on 86 cuz i might get 86 if they have
The chest & knees are fixed on this new one. Although the feet are still a little looser than I’d like
Thanks for confirming what we all were thinking! Getting tired of slight variations with repaints. Oh miss your mojo music background, it was cool!
Finally! Thanks for the review! 👻
Thanks for checking it out!
I think this does bring up an interesting question. Why can he be a voyager in the same line as astrotrain who triple changes I’d say equally easily
I got Siege Springer! Other than the articulated hands, what's different about this one? On the fence, atm, about getting this.
Completely agree! If you have SIEGE then this one is an easy pass!
Atfer all the effort I made stripping the battle damage paint and repainting my Siege Springer figure (the yellow paint in particular was a headache) I just can't justifying spending the asking price on this new figure. Siege is close enough.
Siege is so good for the price point. It transforms the same too!
Looks great!! Awesome review pvp
Thank you very much mate!🤩🔥
I got the Legacy one (from the Wreck 'n Rule Collection) and don't see enough to justify the increase to leader class pricing - legs really need a rework.
Amazing just amazing! W review prime vs prime! I'm definitely picking this up
Thanks so much!
@@PrimeVsPrime your welcome! You deserve it!
I have to get another one. The tabs on the legs broke on my copy
Also… Love the channel and this review. Can’t wait for him to ship! Trying to complete the entire 86 line with the exception of the battle damaged stuff.
Thanks so much for your kind words mate! 🙏🏻
@@PrimeVsPrimeBig love man! So cool to have other UK TF fans. Got to meet one day! 👊🏽
I want to get this Springer, but something inside me tells that I'm fine with my Thrilling 30 Springer, which is, for all intents and purposes, one of the best Transformers figures ever made.
And speaking of Thrilling 30, when are you going to review your Thrilling 30 Sky-Byte in preparation for the upcoming Sky-Byte in the new toyline next year?
I have been waiting for Springer and here he is!
He is really cool! Just overpriced
I’m so glad I didn’t pick the Siege version, as always great review PvP! 🤩
Thanks so much mate!
Tbh I am so glad this figure is coming out, cause my wreckers springers clear plastic backpack, the tabs on it snapped off and now it’s not as stable, so I hope history doesn’t repeat itself when I get this new one
Is it sad to say that I'd rather wait for DNA design to make an upgrade kit (that would probably come with waaaaaay more accessories & proper movie accurate parts) than to re-buy another Springer.😮💨
0:09 love this shot🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much!
Not being able to get a Siege Springer, I'm left with little choice if I want this "bad boy" in my collection. I'm sure DNA or noneff can develop some mods for the legs and such.
During your car alt-mode transformation, why did you leave the top pieces of the backpack angled up? They should fold down into the sides of the car, not be raised.
For one, I appreciate that in your review, you've actually posed Springer's pauldrons to its proper position unlike some reviewers who stated that they would correct their look (cough - ToysrRuss - cough) in their review but didn't. I mean that is one of its new features!!! 😔
Also, thank you for being honest and in detailing the differences and the overall value of this new Springer.
Thank you mate for your kind words! Appreciate it! 🙏🏻
Its cool that the rotors fold into a sword, but i wish they added maybe a pin joint or something lengthwise in one side of the sword so that it could rotate and make the rotors face the correct way
Hello! Awesome review! I was wondering if the legs still have the problem of disconnecting with the transformation joint in the knees when trying to articulate it, Does it still have that problem?
Hello! Thanks mate! No this time around they snap in super securely! Shouldn’t have any issues
Except for the (exposed wheels,) I think it's a fairly decent figure all things considered!!!! 🤗❤️👍🏾
The best thing about this over Siege is he doesn't have all that stupid Mud all over him
So guys is this better than the thrilling 30s generations springer or no. By now they’ll cost around the same so who should I get?
Honestly I couldn’t tell you 😔 I don’t own the T30s
@@PrimeVsPrimeI had it when I was a kid, and it looks good so when u got time give it a shot. But I gotta rebuy mine since it broke when I used to play with it.
🔥great homes review 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I dunno, I already have Siege and Wreckers Springer. Is it worth getting SS86 Springer for another repaint?
Absolutely not for that leader price point. The Voyagers are just as impressive!
and “If that thing munches moons; it'll make short work of us.”
received my springer and lots of the joints are either too loose or too tight, the tabs between the legs have already got stress marks and i cannot tab the shoulders in at all
The scale difference from Arcee-Springer-U.Magnus is a bit much. Arcee should be a little taller at least.
I’m hoping to maybe one day see a voyager class Arcee
@@PrimeVsPrimewould like to get the Mp as it’s exactly the look and pretty close to size but that price is too much.
I really hope they give astrotrai the 86 treatment and fix the front and back of the train mode, and the back of the shuttle mode.
The more I think about it,AOE drift was supposed to be Springer with a different head.
In my opinion these false leader classes should be recategorized as something new like Voyager Plus or something if they're really that desperate to get the extra money without increasing the figure's size. It would at least be far less controversial that way
Captain Classes.
I completely agree! It seems like the return of Ultra Class would be perfect for them!
That sounds cool and fitting. It Also would help better shape the hype of the fans. That way we would know what type of figure to expect instead of wondering wether itll be a large figure or an involved voyager
I’m collecting transformers for the first time since I was a kid , I want to be consistent with my pick ups , what’s the best toy line for transformers ?? Is it studio series , Legacy, yolopark ?? If y’all can comment I would appreciate it
Love this guy such great lines in the movie but don’t know if I’ll pick him up
He was a wicked character!
The QC issues on my legacy springer have me wanting to sell it, and this one looks like a fix for those issues. Are the QC issues fixed, like the weird leg movement thing, the skirt unhinging, and the entire chest part literally falling apart? If the issues are all fixed I would agree with the leader class name.
2:27 this sword could be a retool of the TF thrilling 30s generation IDW model
I dont know if its just me but this has to be one of the best studio series 86 figures
It’s a very nice looking figure but it’s a little too expensive I think
Yeah true@@PrimeVsPrime
Great vid as always. In hasbro's livestream where they announced this figure, they talked about the fold-out arm canon. So I search for a springer review, and I find yours! Yay! I want to see the arm canon! Then I see the "arm canon" is a tiny dinky little piece of light green plastic. An extra $25 usd gets me -- let's see -- a catapult missile with unpainted fins, a purplish blaster even though his blaster isn't purple, a sword/helicopter rotor that cannot take the cool swooosh effect that came with siege battle masters lionizer, a sword, and a tiny dinky light green blaster thingy. I'm not sure I want to spend the $35 usd this might get marked down to at Target.
Thank you for inspiring me to collect Transformers🙏🏻
My pleasure!!
My pleasure!!
Hopefully He'll go on sale and be worth it
Maybe so!
I do have the previous springer and love him but my main collection is the SS86 line so I’ll be getting him for that reason lol
He does look good and love your review
This looks better than the fans toys apache(springer) than i own and is the best springer ever, i was lucky to preorder him, steeljaw and bumblebee from zavvi as this guys is sold out literally everywher, i only need ss86 perceptor, ramhorn and rewind to complete my g1 autobots team, perceptor is the only one i missed out but luckily he is in the upcoming 3 pack so i am def getting that 3 pack, no news on rewind though, thank you pvp for giving us an early glimpse of this guy
What are those 2 thin pieces coming from arcees shoulders?
I came from a time where all my toys could do was move the arms up and down and you might get some leg movements lol I get it tho alot of collectors now days are younger and are use to this type of thing so yea I see where you are coming from but for me this is a great toy
Hey primevsprime! Do u plan on preordering and reviewing the bailan roadmaster 07 optimus prime? Like luckycat it has some of the best detail and accuracy of an 07 optimus prime and could give the black apple optimus some competition, and it transforms! Not to mention its legends scale which is just black magic
Oh I can’t say I’ve heard of that one. I’ll do some research!
@@PrimeVsPrime i heard it got delayed a bit because they had to rework the transformation or something like that but hopefully it releases soon! Just from the pics alone its an instant cop for me
I never got the older mold of this figure so honestly I'm glad I get to pick him up in the studio series line. Thank you primevsprime for yet another banging review 🫡
This is a question for you, PrimeVsPrime. I have neither. Should i get seige or wait till the 86 figure releases?
It really depends, if you can find siege for a good price then I’d jump on it. If not, then the SS version is good!
Honestly, I'm looking forward to getting this guy. When Hasbro first announced him, I wasn't surprised that they re-used the Siege Mold Springer and slapped on accessories for a Leader Class price point but look at some of the previous figures that had the same issue I mean Blitzwing, and Sandstorm could have been sold as voyager but hey that is Hasbro and that is what they do now
I really feel like the triple changers should have their own price point. These don’t feel as substantial as standalone leader class
@@PrimeVsPrime I agree, I mean with the amount of plastic they throw in for extras and charge it for a higher leader class price is a bit much, but and this just me I'm a stickler for scale size and I hated the leader class sized figures before Hasbro changed things up for WFC Trilogy and I like the scale they have now. It is what it is
It's pretty frustrating it's a leader now, I missed the siege version and third party it goes 40-50 now. Didn't like the Wreck N rule color deco. So I'm gonna have to swallow the premium price point since I don't have him yet.
Ikr?! Especially as the engineering is the same as the voyager class! With the inclusion of that random hammer, it really seems they were just trying to justify the leader price point
Still a better deal than the 86 Starscream
86 Starscream was going for $40 on Amazon! (probably still is) I gladly paid the extra 10 bucks for the throne, crown, & shoulder pauldrons 😅
I got lucky and found mine at Ollie’s in a damaged box for 75% off. It was like $5 😅
Definitely gonna get it. I don’t have a Spinger. Definitely more accurate and I like the color scheme a lot more than the previous versions. I hope there’s an upgrade kit that addresses balancing issue in the future. That’s really unfortunate.
Yeah the weak ankles are a killer especially for that price point!
First off, I can’t see many differences between this and the Siege version outside of different articulation, is there anything else? Second this looks alright to me, not too crazy about this. Hope that many people enjoy having a more movie accurate version of Springer now.
In the comparisons I break everything down! 🤩🔥
It's messed up that "leader" figures are the same size as Voyager figures now
Agreed! Compared to ROTF Leader Prime these figure (whilst still good) are a far cry
I love the little canon on his arm!
It’s a cool little feature for sure!🤩
cool ... nice review
Thanks mate!
Hey PvP, how well does the chest stay attached to the rest of the torso? My WrecknRule Springer is allergic to staying together up there, and its a shame they didn't improve the ankles but if at least the chest is improved I'll consider picking up this guy haha
It stays in no problem at all. Honestly I can’t fault it. It attaches at multiple points now & is sturdy to detach
@@PrimeVsPrime That's awesome to hear. I agree that leader price for an edited voyager + accessory pack is a bit much but WrecknRule Springer was so disappointing it makes me want to pick up this one
For the amount they bumped up the price I would've definitely liked to have seen some details painted on the accessories, especially the shell, but this does look like a sick figure! Just gotta convince myself to part with leader money for a voyager with some kibble and bits thrown in
Agreed! They really skimped on this release big time!
Not having the insignia on the hammer does make it look like a third party product..
Springer's helicopter mode looks like an armored US army helicopter LMAO.
Do you not have one of the Wrecker Springers? That would have been great to add to the comparison.
I love sitting down and eating bread and then watching a new PrimeVsPrime video
Haha thank you mate! Anything on the bread? 🤔
@@PrimeVsPrime bread + heat = toasted bread
Did they fix the transforming hinge in the knees from the original release?
It doesn’t detach any where near as easy as it could before
@@PrimeVsPrime that's good to hear
This figure seriously made to me to collect Transformers
Man am I glad I have the Generations one
The original toy?!
“Ive got better things to do tonight than let hasbro get away with this”
Voyager class for the WIN!
PVP : he comes with the sword he used to face off against the Junkions
my brain : remembers that Weird Al Yankovic is voicing Cosmos in season 2 of TF Earthspark
me : guess Cosmos is gonna dare to be stupid eh?
I hate that that works so well 😂
Excited for ES S2, btw
The fact they couldn’t be bothered to hide his hands, you can keep this toy.
Quick question pls.. where can I buy blast FX from? I’m in the UK.
I got them from the SH Figuarts Doctor Strange
@@PrimeVsPrime starts googling loool
Take a drink every time he says "this/that/those sucker/s"
BRUH at this point ppl are just nit picking 😆 this & that are essentials! 😆
@@PrimeVsPrime Describing parts is fine but you said Sucker 8 times during conversion to helicopter.