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    Throughout the history of WoW, top guilds have often been on the edge of clever use of game mechanics to straight up exploits in order to secure their place at the top.
    Today I go over 5 of the biggest ways that top guilds have been banned after going too far.
    This is 5 Times When World First Guilds Went Too Far
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  • @WillEmmo
    @WillEmmo  Рік тому +31

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    • @Gunrunner879
      @Gunrunner879 Рік тому +1

      U play pyrewood??

    • @semiramisubw4864
      @semiramisubw4864 Рік тому

      one of the best Free trials out there for sure. I Play 14 and WoW for years now. Can only recommend.

    • @hardwareissue3588
      @hardwareissue3588 Рік тому +6

      You missed the time that a guy got mistakenly given a GM tabard and used it to one shot all the hardmode bosses in Ulduar. There were permabans handed out for that.
      They got a few world first achievements in their run.

    • @andromidius
      @andromidius Рік тому

      @@hardwareissue3588 That wasn't a world first guild though.

    • @loltunips
      @loltunips Рік тому

      Martin thunder or fury forgotten its name

  • @blackfalcon1324
    @blackfalcon1324 Рік тому +17

    I understand getting banned for stuff like the GM giving someone an item that let them insta clear raids, and pvp exploits, but the fact that blizzard bans people for their inability to test their own game is just shocking.

  • @jessicameadows7258
    @jessicameadows7258 Рік тому +142

    As a member of Overrated who got banned, it took several weeks into TBC and dozens of e-mails to finally get unbanned. Most of the guild never did until wrath, when all of the banned accounts were released.

    • @mcribenthusiast7010
      @mcribenthusiast7010 Рік тому +1

      Respect.

    • @BlackMant1s
      @BlackMant1s Рік тому +5

      Was an honor to raid with you all in Classic Relaunch!!! (Indraxx/Rendaxx/Akujin)

    • @ChumpkinINC
      @ChumpkinINC Рік тому

      lol how did the person in the guild figure out they could remove the floor?

    • @charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660
      @charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 Рік тому +2

      Here before the bald moldy man reacts

    • @jessicameadows7258
      @jessicameadows7258 Рік тому +10

      @@ChumpkinINC Editing game files was nothing new at this point, some people did it in BGs to remove things like fences in WSG. This was just on a way bigger scale.

  • @Signeddudu
    @Signeddudu Рік тому +31

    I would like an in depth video on the history of famous guilds in wow. Great vid!

    • @glenglen6386
      @glenglen6386 Рік тому

      The guilds and on the Nordrassil server had a guildie called Anders. That was Anders Breivik who went on to kill 77 people in Norway.

    • @A1Steaksauce58
      @A1Steaksauce58 Рік тому

      @@glenglen6386 wait what lol? That escalated quickly

  • @lancer8889
    @lancer8889 Рік тому +60

    Hilarious how we've gone from PERMA banning an entire guild for wanting to skip to the last boss in a raid that wasn't even current, to not even suspending people for buying hundreds of thousands of gold and destroying entire server economies.
    Thanks Blizz :)

    • @abduljabars
      @abduljabars Рік тому +18

      To be fair, changing actual game files in an MMO isn't something any dev can let slide just on principle.
      ....not to mention bots make blizz $$

    • @Nazylexx
      @Nazylexx Рік тому

      Tbh Blizz could win community by adding a way to skip to final Boss but it could required some kind of quest first

    • @crimzpaladinnechces7795
      @crimzpaladinnechces7795 Рік тому

      ARE YOU RETARDED?

    • @Kensber85
      @Kensber85 Рік тому

      People always say this as they are the same issue and they arent lol
      Bug abuse has always been against the rules for all MMOs
      Gold buying does not have the same effect as you altering game files to gain a great advantage

    • @decodiazHD
      @decodiazHD Рік тому

      @@Nazylexx so like modern raids have that require you to kill the boss 4 times before u can skip to it?

  • @anthonybarrington2562
    @anthonybarrington2562 Рік тому +3

    Respect to the saronite bomber. Blizz was just lazy with that one and didn’t want to own up to their own lack of attention to detail

  • @vincentbeton
    @vincentbeton Рік тому +5

    Oh come on, the Lich King was all about abusing Bugs. Him being defeated by one seems so poetic

  • @Max-dv1kq
    @Max-dv1kq Рік тому +3

    oldschool wotlk just is something else, the new experience, the raids started to get really serious and had so much new stuff in them..
    what a time to be alive man

  • @Evan-mt7bc
    @Evan-mt7bc Рік тому +5

    So I've heard a ton of versions of the Ensidia ban including that Rogue player was purposely walking towards the platform to throw the bomb nowhere near Arthas.

  • @patrice6373
    @patrice6373 Рік тому +6

    They didn't get banned for it, but the room glitch that Premonition (and later, other guilds) used on Atramedes in Blackwing Descent was pretty flagrant. Due to the tuning of the fight, the disc damage became unmanagable, and the solution discovered was to literally take Atramedes out of the room. Not enough to despawn him, but JUST enough so that the discs wouldn't hit raid members.

  • @kongen54321
    @kongen54321 Рік тому +11

    Some more info and context to ensidia lich king ban. As you said this was normal mode and there was therefor no "world first" race and it was in no way a difficult fight for them. I was in a guild that was about rank 50 at the time and we killed it pretty easy first week without any exploit. Needless to say ensidia had no incentive to exploit.
    Ensidia said they did not know what was causing the bug (hard to notice that saronite bombs rebuilds the platform), they even wiped intentionally when it happened (not because of the bug, but they wanted to learn the fight better for heroic). After the ban was over and it was found out it was caused by saronite bombs they easily went in and killed it in a 2. raid with different characters and was able to compete in the actual world first race starting the next week allthough with gear removed from the lich king kill. Some people in Ensidia quit after blizzards handling of this and they as a guild never recovered.
    Now you might think to yourself, the fight was obviously bugged and Ensidia should have just not killed it. However every end boss released up until this point was bugged. For example the previous tier (TOGC) hard mode was first killed by Paragon, they chain stunned the adds the entire fight which obviously made it a joke (blizzard somehow forgot to add DR to the mobs). They were not banned for doing this, so why would Ensidia think they would get banned for rebuilt platform (which they couldnt possible know the cause of).

    • @Teng711
      @Teng711 Рік тому +1

      There are some more storys about Paragon and the "clever use of game mechanics". But the guild obviously just wasnt on blizzards radar at that point so they got away with it.

    • @tompatompsson
      @tompatompsson Рік тому +1

      @@Teng711 The world first guild wasn't on their radar?

  • @TommyBoyB
    @TommyBoyB Рік тому +8

    Apart from the one where they edited game files (thought a skip to legit C'thun would be nice) I think all of these are on blizzard to fix and don't warrant a ban. If anything Blizzard should thank them for pointing out these flaws.

  • @Dene181
    @Dene181 Рік тому +7

    All of these are good and there are more. 👌
    But the funniest exploit I witnessed and took part in, was the heirloom multistrike sword abuse with rogues back in SoO... attacking so fast and often that the game lagged for the entire raidgroup during any encounters and the dps it did was crazy. We used it in one of our farm weeks, worked amazing and got fixed shortly after that. Some guilds were banned for it, because they did many runs or sellruns with it. But of course this isn't a World First exploit. Sadly I don't know of any videos about it, I didn't record it myself, but I wish I had. It was very funny though.

  • @elilucas3361
    @elilucas3361 Рік тому +49

    love that you're getting sponsors from the likes of ff14, much deserved man!

    • @alchemyty
      @alchemyty Рік тому +3

      I wanted to say something similar! That's huge!! Also hopefully it'll pump up FFXIVs population more (:

    • @DazeJokerz
      @DazeJokerz Рік тому +1

      nice to see willie getting sponsors even if its from dead game

    • @MoonTurky
      @MoonTurky Рік тому +1

      They really will give the sponers to anybody and anything it seems, imagine wanting a degenerate wow content creator to advertise your product lmao. Can the bar be any lower?

    • @Disturbance42
      @Disturbance42 Рік тому

      @@alchemyty XIV's pop is kind of in the toilet. The game is incredibly boring, stale, long overdue for freshness and most of the people who joined during Covid long left.

  • @TastyScotch
    @TastyScotch Рік тому +47

    Back in those days it wasnt bug abusing, or exploit, we called it “Clever use of game mechanics.” 😂

    • @iriswaldenburger2315
      @iriswaldenburger2315 Рік тому +3

      We still call it that now instead of what it actually is: C H E A T I N G

    • @loneeagle85
      @loneeagle85 Рік тому +2

      Ya that's still called cheating bud

    • @steisen
      @steisen Рік тому +2

      Nah mate, its been bug abusing and exploiting since long before WoW was even released ^^ Only actual exploiters ever called it something as cheesy as "Clever use of game mechanics" :D

    • @Shiftry87
      @Shiftry87 Рік тому

      The Hodir fight wasent any of these as Blizzard came out and said they hade intended the buff to be used by Mages but they dident think about limiting it to Freja alone as players started to use it on Hodir instead. Thats not an exploit its just the same as was happening constantly in Vanilla with players bringing world buffs into a raid fight.

    • @iriswaldenburger2315
      @iriswaldenburger2315 Рік тому

      @@Shiftry87 one SHOULD think they learned their lesson after the blood thing in Zul Gurub

  • @RavenTheBlackheart
    @RavenTheBlackheart Рік тому

    The fact the sponsor was FF14 and it was a WoW video is just funny to me for some reason XD awesome vid

  • @italianradio6148
    @italianradio6148 Рік тому +6

    I thought you were gonna talk about the first clear of The Omega Protocol getting the team banned 😅

  • @lousyskater
    @lousyskater Рік тому +1

    We still scouted for Mindflayers back in Vanilla AQ40. They were just not worth dealing with at all lol, especially back then.

  • @Tripw0l
    @Tripw0l Рік тому +1

    I wasn't in a big guild but Raiding Rainbow got banned for at least server first Orbituary. We figured out a way to kill FL with the towers up but none of the mechanics would activate during the fight which obviously makes the encounter much easier. IIRC this was part of the reason why Blizzard started using the dialog with NPCs to start the encounter rather than just jumping in a vehicle and taking down towers or not. Our whole raid got banned for a week and we lost our titles and loot (obviously).

  • @onakaxy
    @onakaxy Рік тому

    Funniest thing about the AQ40 hack: Back until one of the patches in MoP you could glitch through the wall of the platform if you had a big enough mount. Used to run C'thun only runs for the transmog this way

  • @CharlotteCroft
    @CharlotteCroft Рік тому +2

    I kinda missed the Martin Fury incident here. Besides to that nice video 💪

  • @SvendleBerries
    @SvendleBerries Рік тому +9

    The word "banned" these days seems to have been stretched to also mean "suspended". I hear it a lot now and it rarely actually means someone was banned, in that they can _never_ return. Its like how the word "literally" is often used to mean "figuratively".

    • @keithlemmons_
      @keithlemmons_ Рік тому

      Banned isnt synonymous with permanent you nonce

  • @tanks608
    @tanks608 Рік тому +91

    To this day I still don't think the saronite bombs counted as cheating. They deserved that, it was blizz coding not intentional.

    • @MickeyMolad
      @MickeyMolad Рік тому +33

      I worked on the team that handled that investigation at Blizzard. I can very much assure you they 100% knew what was causing it when they killed the boss.

    • @SymbianBlack
      @SymbianBlack Рік тому +4

      @@MickeyMolad matter of opinion if they “knew”

    • @thegreattaiyou
      @thegreattaiyou Рік тому +16

      I remember being around during the controversy. From what I remember the rogue dps that was using the bombs put out a statement saying that yes, they noticed that the platforms were regenerating, they knew that this was not intended for the fight, and they used it anyways for the kill.
      However, they specifically did not know what was causing the issue, and knew that Blizzard had people actively watching their every attempt.
      The controversy came around the fact that blizzard did not communicate with them at all during all of their attempts. Blizzard never put a pause on attempts to hotfix the broken mechanic. Blizzard, actively watching, allows them to continue to leverage the broken mechanic repeatedly over dozens, of not hundreds of attempts, and only banned them once they succeeded.
      Had there been some communication like "hey, this is what's causing the issue. Stop using sarronite bombs, or we will be forced to take action for exploitation" the outcome could have absolutely been avoided.
      Its slightly gray since Ensidia knew that the mechanic was unintended and used it anyways, while blizzard knew Ensidia was using it and what caused it but refused to communicate with them or the community at large.

    • @DGrin1
      @DGrin1 Рік тому +7

      Rebuilding the platforms allows you to ignore the dps check of killing the 3 valkyrs who snatch people and toss you off the platform. It massively trivializes that part of the fight. Its ABSOLUTELY an exploit. Its also blizzards fault that it worked how it did, not the players. Prior to yogg and lich king exploits being punished the notion of beating a boss as intended didnt exist. There were no raid guides detailing the boss mechanics. Blizzard presented the player with dragons that did stuff and it was your job to make it run out of health before the stuff it did killed you and your friends No guide, no rulebook. No "proper" kill strat

    • @MickeyMolad
      @MickeyMolad Рік тому +8

      @@SymbianBlack not when they openly discuss it during the fight

  • @huntyfla
    @huntyfla Рік тому

    During the tbc pre-patch the warrior ability rampage stacked infinitely so people were having warriors stack the ability and 1 shot bosses, I know people themselves got banned but not sure if entire guilds got ban waved.

  • @TheGuy-pu4vn
    @TheGuy-pu4vn Рік тому +1

    Enjoy your fact finding and history videos. Keep em up!

  • @TheBlackWaltz
    @TheBlackWaltz Рік тому

    I was clearing AQ40 just last week with a friend. I accidentally skipped toe cthun. Some mobs had knocked me through the ground and I had to use the unstuck feature, and it placed me right on top of the boss.

  • @Darthyen
    @Darthyen Рік тому

    I remember a guild on my old server were ranked one of the top in the world and they got banned for something to do with Malygose exploit. The guild was Notorious and they (trying to remember so apologize for misremembering and not all the facts) did some exploit where they took all high end ranged DPS and one tank (i think 1) and used multiple blood lust to defeat the boss while he was in the air and before he could go to the next phase where the platform dissolves/breaks apart. Blizz had to change the fight after that to make the boss 0 health without going to the next phase. They only got a small ban but I remember it was the talk of the time especially on Gurubashi where they were.
    I wish I could remember the exact details but it was so long ago.

  • @FilthyGreen
    @FilthyGreen Рік тому +2

    Love learning about WoW history. More please!

  • @Higher-Veda
    @Higher-Veda Рік тому

    Even before the Exodus Yogg exploit, my guild received the same treatment for "exploiting" HM FL out of his room where the mechanics don't happen. That's why he leashes and resets now.

  • @CCM1199
    @CCM1199 Рік тому

    What is the website that youre posting in the videos that has all the raid clear and dates?

  • @Drjebus
    @Drjebus 10 місяців тому

    I remembered hearing about the edited map to skip to C'thun.
    It is *mindblowing* to see footage of it.

  • @haukness
    @haukness Рік тому +1

    Surprised that the incident with KarateChop and the Martins Fury wasnt on the list. I guess it was more of an error then a exploit though.

  • @nestorasbellas6604
    @nestorasbellas6604 Рік тому +2

    it did make a difference cause Ensidia lost the entire first week of heroic progression. You couldn't enter heroic without normal mode achiv. The 72 hour ban happened just before reset and included the reset time, so while the others where able to start heroic Ensidia had only normal mode available.

  • @andrewlee7228
    @andrewlee7228 Рік тому

    Anyone remember the guild Deus Vox? They "cascaded" BWL in order to run it multiple times a reset. Only Razergore locked you to that ID, so they would get Razergore really low and HS out as many people as possible leaving behind only the people necessary to kill it. They would then zone everyone back in and clear the rest of the instance then do it again and again.

  • @gostreiver8036
    @gostreiver8036 Рік тому

    You’re a legend Wille never get tired of your content or your silky smooth voice

  • @tompatompsson
    @tompatompsson Рік тому +1

    It made 0 difference to the WF race. Paragon got LK HC on the 26th of march and it took until april 11th for the second kill by FTH. (plus a buff increase)

  • @Brandonjones1313
    @Brandonjones1313 Рік тому +2

    Getting banned for deleting files to skip to c’thun is wild considering you can skip to him by mounting up and alt-f4 at 98% of the cast through the wall that has a ledge above it to the right of prophet skerams platform

    • @MoonTurky
      @MoonTurky Рік тому

      Cant ban the bots tho, sorry

  • @LordNecron
    @LordNecron Рік тому

    In AQ40, Blizzard banned people. In Black Temple, before release, Blizzard helped Nihilum practice most of BT on the PTR with an actual Dev in tow. And after Nihilum had their Illidan World First, they hotfixed that Warlocks could Soulstone a person outside of their group (Nihilum had the whole Raid soulstoned for the whole encounter).

  • @yavin99
    @yavin99 14 днів тому

    I was in that guild and used to raid MC with them that did the C'thune cheat although I had quit WoW a couple months before this happened, it was on the pvp server Shadowmoon.

  • @mojotmn
    @mojotmn Рік тому

    That floor deletion was bis! 🤣

  • @ThatLampTho
    @ThatLampTho Рік тому +1

    Damn never realized how insane the competition was for top players. Just watching them doesn't show the full story 😅

  • @TheManadeath
    @TheManadeath Рік тому

    On Archimonde server, during vanilla, my guild (Discordia) would pull Khazzak into "unkown" zone. basicly pulling him up the hill behind his spawn to the flat area deadzone between zones. We never got a ban for it. Basicly it was to prevent alliance from cheesing the death/heal mechanic to prevent us from a kill by sending their naked characters to die. after doing it once or twice I said I wont be doing it again, as I was the lock summoning everyone up there. I also was against people using the mind control orb in BWL from below it, but less so. Also dont think anyone ever got banned for that either.

    • @NarvisISSC
      @NarvisISSC Рік тому

      I remember my entire guild running up there in the between zone land going to Kazzak, we mostly started from the bridge between STV and Duskwood. Was fun :)

  • @derrickbonsell
    @derrickbonsell Рік тому

    That Ulduar "hack" back in Wrath was actually pretty clever strategy.

  • @moersertrupp
    @moersertrupp Рік тому +4

    you forgot the Lord Rhyolith in Firelands during Cataclysm, where the boss did not aggro while being pulled with pets.

  • @Humigigiba
    @Humigigiba Рік тому

    Have people forgot the word suspension? Back in the day ban was forever, that grinds my gears

  • @Frstypwngaming
    @Frstypwngaming Рік тому

    Surprised that all the Gara'Jal the Spiritbinder and Feng the Accursed bug abuses didn't make the list at all.

  • @krissam7791
    @krissam7791 Рік тому

    Not even an honorable mention to the first guild that got banned for "exploiting"? Conquest, all got banned for exploits, however blizzard refused to tell them *what* exploit they were using.

  • @charlesdaugherty321
    @charlesdaugherty321 Рік тому +1

    Exploits are playing to win.
    Banning anyone for using an exploit is like punishing an office worker for finishing their work load too fast.

  • @Number69
    @Number69 Рік тому +3

    Some context on ensidia hodir kill... method and inner sanctum had done hardmodes the first week of uld when ensidia did nm and it was a breeze. Blizzard severely buffed it so ensidia felt they had no option but flower power to stay competitive.
    Buzzkill's old blog on nihilum/ensidia is a good read on it all.

  • @moonlighttv6810
    @moonlighttv6810 Рік тому +2

    A world of warcraft video sponsored by ff14 truly revolutionary.

  • @renealcerro1320
    @renealcerro1320 Рік тому

    12:41 why does everyone forgets "The Ruby Sanctum"? Arthas wasnt the final boss of the expansion

  • @Whinzey
    @Whinzey Рік тому +1

    This have nothing to do with world first, but Ulduar back in the day had many bosses that could be bugg abused.
    To be honest, i used em all.
    Flame leviathan could be solo'd without getting raidlocked.
    I farmed that boss for DAYS before it was fixed.
    Kologarnn could be bugged so his ability to pick up players to squeez em to death didnt trigger.
    Thorims gauntlet could be skipped. No first phase to go and poke him to jump down and no adds to deal with in the arena.
    He jumps down after the first dialog.
    Ulduar were one of the best raids ever, but first weeks of release it was packed with things that could be abused, just like ensidia did at hodir and much more!

  • @nippon19
    @nippon19 Рік тому

    At one moment, WoD heirloom trinket proc'ed full force in timewalker, imagine proc for 150-170k dmg on a 500k hp boss :P

  • @wobz1055
    @wobz1055 Рік тому

    Antramades in BWL - ppl just pulled him into the corridor before the boss room and ignored all the mechanics and blasted him 😂

  • @EdgedShadow
    @EdgedShadow Рік тому +2

    Wasn’t there a guild in original Wrath that somehow got ahold of a GM item that instantly killed anything then ran amok in Ulduar with it?

    • @anttihakkarainen1520
      @anttihakkarainen1520 Рік тому +3

      Martin Fury or thunder? I think it was a shirt or something 😂

    • @Disturbance42
      @Disturbance42 Рік тому +1

      @@anttihakkarainen1520 Martin's Fury yup, a GM test tabard. Instantly kills everything within 50 yds. 200 charges. Accidentally mailed to them from a GM.

  • @rachelheav857
    @rachelheav857 Рік тому

    just before the chase scene in halls of reflection instance the chase glitched and didnt happen, for us... so we dropped the lich king in HOR before anyone dropping him in ICC

  • @evgenykuznetsov721
    @evgenykuznetsov721 Рік тому +1

    You forgot to chat about "Martin Fury Insident" is the best exploit that really happened.

    • @MoonTurky
      @MoonTurky Рік тому

      Ah yes, lets repeat that bullshit as well! Its not like every shitty youtuber and their mother and their mothers mother has talked about the martins fury story atleast twice by now lmaoooo

  • @Mike_79
    @Mike_79 Рік тому +1

    Played this game for over 13 year BC --> , all my free time. Then my mom died (Braintumor) and still have a bad feeling I didn't go more to my mom before. Lost all this time with my mom for A game... Now it's to late :(

  • @PvP-ls7yo
    @PvP-ls7yo Рік тому

    PLEASE do a video on the Serenity Now, funeral crash bans. Lol

  • @matthewbolton4289
    @matthewbolton4289 Рік тому

    How did the vaelastraz mind control to knock off the burning adrenalin debuff off not make this liat

  • @Shiftry87
    @Shiftry87 Рік тому

    That Hodir hardmode was not an exploit in anyway as Blizzard themselfs hade come out and said that the buffs was intended to be spell stealable by Mages but they were expecting players to use them on Freja and not Hodir. That is not an exploit but instead a very legit way of outsmarting the devs without changing anything about the Hodir fight itself. They dident break any of Hodirs mechanics they just brought a buff into the fight that the devs hade made available they just dident think about players using the buff on another boss other then Freja. This was constantly happening in Vanilla with world buffs getting used in raids. This was just a side effect they werent excpecting players to use the buff for.
    The LichKing situation is also badly reported here as while the bombs did break the mechanics of the fight. The players hade reported the bug happening in there attempts and there was no way any of the players could possable have known these bombs was the cause of it. Even players from Paragon hade reported it happening in there attempts. Its like he said, alot of top players used these bombs in there standard rotation so it wasent something 1 guy found out just to make the fight easier. The ban itself is arguable but getting the world first removed is ofc understandable as the fight was definatly cleared due to a bug happening. It was only after the world first clear that the issue of the bombs was discovered so the players couldent have known about it before that.

  • @admrizzo1
    @admrizzo1 Рік тому

    I also remember one guild getting banned in Lich King for having an all Druid in bear form raid... literally unstoppable... lol

    • @Darthyen
      @Darthyen Рік тому

      I remember hearing about that.

  • @pokedadsam9041
    @pokedadsam9041 Рік тому

    Wasnt this the exploit asmon talked about that Krupp was in? They stood outside the chamber and agreed them to the door

  • @ramones1314
    @ramones1314 Рік тому +1

    didnt Stars get banned in WoD cuz they found an exploit with Hanz and Franz where a rogue would follow the boss to the upper platform and then mass ress the raid and they could do the fight from up there, avoiding every mechanic? or am i just having a fever dream

  • @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit
    @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit Рік тому

    I will never get the cases why Blizzard ropes the consequences due to their lack of bug testing on the players.
    Its one thing to edit the in-game files and force the game to play in a way that it was never designed to. Its another to use in-game resources to make a fight easier, which they signed off on as builds do not get published without being approved by the developers.
    If its jank, they approved of said jank, whether intentionally or not.

  • @countfrackula6707
    @countfrackula6707 Рік тому

    Both of those Yogg glitches were legitimate world firsts and should have been treated as such.
    The first because they used it once and reported it immediately - legitimate.
    The second because they used a known mechanic that Blizz hadn't fixed in multiple expansions - legitimate.
    Ensidia's kill of LK was also legitimate.

  • @Nifyrlas
    @Nifyrlas Рік тому

    lol that spellsteal hodir worked in wotlk classic aswell until someone leaked it from warcraftlogs

  • @tomsawyer7230
    @tomsawyer7230 Рік тому

    It was several top guilds banned for the lfr bug, not just paragon

  • @TheMonk3613
    @TheMonk3613 Рік тому +2

    Be advised, ARR first 50 levels of story questing is pretty dry. It gets vastly better after it.

    • @pixwiz1935
      @pixwiz1935 Рік тому +1

      No. No it doesn't. People always push the bar. When I played they said it gets better after ARR, it didn't. Then they said post ARR part is boring, it gets better in Heavensward. It didn't. They said the second part of Heavensward is where it picks up. Guess what?! Still a snooze fest. Then they said Stormblood, then Shadowbringers.

    • @antoineguerrier2965
      @antoineguerrier2965 Рік тому

      I prefer ARR to HW. Couldn't give a rat's ass about Ishgard or the dragons. It all felt like a huge sidequest getting in the way of saving the scions and clearing our names.

    • @Xylarxcode
      @Xylarxcode Рік тому

      @@pixwiz1935 Or perhaps it's worth considering that the game is just not meant for you, because that statement is generally pretty true. That doesn't mean it will be true for everyone, though. Vastly better, as OP here says is a bit of an overstatement, because the story goes up and down in quality quite a bit. In a very broad sense, he's right, though. FF14 does get better (for the most part) the further you get in, provided that the story that starts in ARR grabbed your attention to begin with. If it didn't, then it's very likely the rest of the game won't appeal to you either.
      Personally, I'd say that ARR is a slog that's very slow to get started, post ARR is way too long but once you get to HW it does improve, as the storybeats seem to find their sweet spot. Stormblood feels a bit sidequest-y for a large chunk of it, but ShB brings things right back on track and is the best part of the game, storywise, while Endwalker starts off strong, but then experiences a steep drop that almost gives you whiplash at how sudden it is and never recovers from that again.

    • @Disturbance42
      @Disturbance42 Рік тому

      @@pixwiz1935 Absolutely this.

    • @Disturbance42
      @Disturbance42 Рік тому

      @@Xylarxcode Nah, he's right and your dickriding of a shit game is proof of that.

  • @Frstypwngaming
    @Frstypwngaming Рік тому

    You forgot to mention that Paragon got world first Trial of the Grand Crusader 0 deaths.

  • @DragonsController8
    @DragonsController8 Рік тому

    The ensidia ban wasn’t ensidia’s fault. Saronite bombs are part of the DPS rotation for rogues in wrath. And where are rogues located? Up the bosses arse! So I believe that was Blizzard wanting to pass it as bug abuse rather than admitting they messed up an end expansion raid again (looking at you Kiljaden)

  • @gapho5198
    @gapho5198 Рік тому +1

    Never thought I'd see the day when CBU3 would advertise through UA-camrs 🙃🙃🙃

  • @SuperProalpha
    @SuperProalpha Рік тому +1

    As a member of Overrated, I hate Nerfie and that dumb woman he fell in love with. No one needed to know about replacing the sand texture with the tentacle.

    • @Jaerb4
      @Jaerb4 11 місяців тому

      We found out later it had nothing to do with her. A FoH member told us it was Furor himself that had the GMs watch us. I guess he was upset that we made them the #2 Horde guild on the server and then poached a few players.

  • @suronia1
    @suronia1 Рік тому

    I think using the walls to your advantage isn't an exploit. If it's ok to kite enemies by such means in classic, it's ok to have enemies stop to give you a extra second to live

  • @evrfreez
    @evrfreez Рік тому

    I'm just blown away to see an FFXIV sponsorship in a WoW video 😄 Maybe this isn't the worst timeline after all~

    • @nonye0
      @nonye0 Рік тому

      you are just in a parallel universe

  • @ravingredpanda
    @ravingredpanda Рік тому +2

    I remember our wotlk raiding guild getting server first on heroic twin val'kyr 25 by accidentally using an exploit that interrupts the cast of the boss heal a split of a second before their shield is activated. I don't think blizz found out. :' )

    • @courtneym75
      @courtneym75 Рік тому +1

      I think they key word there is "accidentally". They tend to ban guilds who intentionally use bugs or exploits that are clearly not meant to be part of the game in order to gain an advantage. From the back end, it's relatively obvious when a group is doing something without realizing it's an exploit and when they do it intentionally.

  • @cachulistar
    @cachulistar Рік тому

    An FF XIV sponsor? 😮 proud of you

  • @evellior
    @evellior Рік тому

    Liquid should 100% have complained about the suspension. It's fair to take the achievements and rewards off them, but it was Blizzards fault that the tactic seemed to be acceptable (like, how hard is it to make one blue post saying "we know of the bug, anyone who exploits it will be punished"?) so they should have just removed the ill-gained progression from those who reported it and tried fairly.

  • @Mornings
    @Mornings Рік тому +1

    "we're banning you because our devs failed" GENIUS!

  • @funland05
    @funland05 Рік тому

    Limit was banned for standing on a totem on the third boss in mogu shan vaults early on in there career to be the best guild in the world!

  • @iriswaldenburger2315
    @iriswaldenburger2315 Рік тому

    I THINK the only reason blizzard decided to do something about the Helya exploit is BECAUSE Limit was fair, REPORTED the bug (naturally Blizzard didn’t fix it), they didn’t use it and THEN other guilds did without any consequences.

  • @feraldruidsftw01
    @feraldruidsftw01 Рік тому

    The guild that used a bug then reported it and got shit taken away is partially a reason people don't report shit. if you fuck up and people use it an report it after it is on you. I remember I was buying something and the price was off. when I mentioned it to the manager they fixed the price and charged me the full price. last time I will ever tell a place if their pricing system is messed up in a customers favor.

  • @adois8755
    @adois8755 Рік тому

    I thought Method got world first Helya not exorsus. Method did not do the breath exploit either I thought.

  • @locky2127
    @locky2127 Рік тому

    It is possible to skip to c'thun without modify any of the gamefiles with just a simple mount + alt f4 trick below Skeram and jumping to the tunnel before c'thun.

    • @gabrielreed8039
      @gabrielreed8039 Рік тому

      People in Vanilla did not have the benefit of having 19 years of knowledge of the content, there's a lot they didn't know that we know today, hence why classic raids fall over

    • @locky2127
      @locky2127 Рік тому

      @@gabrielreed8039 Yes, I was just saying that because it is especially dumb that they modified gamefiles when that skip is possible without it. It's not hard to find either I did that skip in vanilla running in solo just to look around. Didn't abuse it to do it in a raid.
      There were other skips you could do in vanilla but not on classic because the slow strafing through walls and gates got fixed.

  • @Da_Bashi
    @Da_Bashi 6 місяців тому

    Still dont understand ensidias ban on the lich king.
    They used the bombs on every single boss, as it was a normal part of the damage rotation and also it was on their first kill of the lich king.
    They didnt even know it was a bug caused by the bombs and just thought it was a normal encounter.
    Also its a bug created by blizzard and why should they not use bombs just because blizzard fucked up?

  • @fare-5174
    @fare-5174 Рік тому +1

    Apart from the first one, most of those were just people using tools available to players to skip mechanics. And guess what? Using immunities to skip mechanics is a legit way of playing the game. Do all the mages, palas, hunters get banned for solo-soaking a mechanic that requiers you to split the damage? Cloak on a rogue could play havoc on a debuff, AMS could stop a tank from gaining stacks and solotank the boss, Feign Death, Vanish and Invis could also skip mechanics - where does one draw the line? Do you go FF14 route and ban people for changing the settings for your zoom level?
    If a button is available to you in the game, pressing it to gain advantage is fair play, I'd say. Be it by jumping into a wall to disorient the mobs, or using engineering items off-GCD. It's not like the rest of the player population can't do the same.

  • @briangervais5962
    @briangervais5962 Рік тому +2

    Kiting a pull with the classic "fence jump" pathing bug is the essence of classic, but they tried to get rid of it as time went on, to the point they banned everyone 72H because one person did this for 6 seconds during the most important fight possible.

  • @dosbilliam
    @dosbilliam Рік тому +1

    This is the first ad I've actually listened to in a while...mostly since it's not an extremely exploitative mobile game. :P

  • @MrTomme642
    @MrTomme642 Рік тому

    wow, perma banning all guild members for the aq bug abuse really seems to hard for me

  • @infrasound
    @infrasound Рік тому

    When you kill the lichen king in BFA? you get an achievement Clever use of mechanical explosives lol....

  • @Harvles93
    @Harvles93 Рік тому

    "Yogg HM hardest raid they had to offer" - clearly never done 25m Mimi HM kekw

  • @General12th
    @General12th Рік тому

    Hi Will!

  • @poro9084
    @poro9084 Рік тому

    naturally we cannot forget, bcs of sponsor - the newest ultimate zoom out addon

  • @narkwttv
    @narkwttv Рік тому

    ffxiv ad for a wow vid, love that

  • @brandondavidson4085
    @brandondavidson4085 Рік тому +7

    I love the story of a guild using a bug to get a world-first final raid boss kill, then reporting the bug. And they got banned for it! C'mon Blizz, those are good players.

    • @agilagilsen8714
      @agilagilsen8714 Рік тому

      Blizz fucked up, they were told they had fucked up. Punished the players for letting them know.
      Absolutely idiotic reaction. I get removing titles, even the gear from the boss fight. But banning them isn’t right.
      This is just another, among many, reasons as to why the game will never recover. When given a choice Blizz has a history of always taking the choice that is the most anti-player

    • @jordanbrown3660
      @jordanbrown3660 Рік тому

      ​@@agilagilsen8714 the players knew it was a bug, knew they should have reported it, and yet they still abused it to get the world first. The fact that they reported it later just proves that they knew what they did was wrong. If they had just reported it from the start and not used it to win the race, then I'd have more sympathy. Hell, even well-known modern-day exploiters like Rextroy only exploit once they've reported it to Blizzard and gotten confirmation that it will be fixed.

    • @infrasound
      @infrasound Рік тому

      they used to ban ppl in MC for skipping trash they're on drugs most of the time

    • @mimcduffee86
      @mimcduffee86 Рік тому +1

      ​@@infrasound agreed, most players do seem to be on drugs.

  • @phanincoporate
    @phanincoporate Рік тому

    Blizzard .... ban people for for their own mistakes. lolz You guys remember Warcraft 3 reforged?

  • @biz0unc3
    @biz0unc3 Рік тому +4

    That's rad that FFXIV sponsored you despite your content being the competition.

  • @janodefenua4603
    @janodefenua4603 Рік тому

    Sha of pride heroic in Siege of OG, we actualy Killed the boss instantly somehow Our warrior tank was able to reflect boss ability and it one shotted him, No idea what happened at that time, We were never able to replicate it. Maybe it was just Error in the game code that happens once in milion years i have no idea to this day. Never got banned or anything for it, we even wrote ticket after to blizzard what happened that they can remove the achievement/kill if they want, but they never replied back. My guess is they just fixed the issue, saw what happened, also we were not world first guild only top 300 so, no idea realy.

    • @MoonTurky
      @MoonTurky Рік тому

      Well i defeated raszageth on mythic by spamming /rude emoticon, she just dieded i made a ticket but blizzard said its fine

  • @Cuthawolf
    @Cuthawolf Рік тому

    Were these all Horde bans? Wild.

    • @gabrielreed8039
      @gabrielreed8039 Рік тому

      Most, if not all, top competitive raiding guilds are Horde (and have been for a very long time) because of how imbalanced the racial abilities are.

  • @Zhienerich
    @Zhienerich Рік тому

    I seem to recall french guild From Scratch going all in on getting either WF or banned in every tier during Legion. I vaguely remember them getting banned in Nighthold, maybe on Star Augur? Cant recall. And the "LFR loot in DS"-ban hit way more guilds than just Paragon, i think it hit most western topguilds at the time.

    • @Peterryom
      @Peterryom Рік тому +1

      There was a lot of bans for exploiting on Helya in Legion (sacrifice a tank, then the breath stops). And what no one mentions is; the top guilds got 8 day bans for the Dragon Soul loot exploit, the guilds a tier below got permabanned for doing it.