SHOULD YOU BUY A BMW Z4M COUPE?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video. I get to have a go in a BMW Z4 M Coupe. When it came out over a decade ago, it never got the recognition it deserved. Partly because it was pricey and didn't quite have the interest. Now at the thick end of 2018 - they have become a bit of a future classic.
So, should you buy a Z4M coupe? Watch the vid to find out.
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I’ve got the 3.0 roadster, straight 6 engine sounds amazing
I much prefer the look of the coupe though
I shouldn’t have watched this video. Just bought a M135i, now I want a Z4M😂
Got my Z4M Roadster last month, utterly epic car.
Congrats mate... how is it so far? Any repairs and costs to lookout for?
@@PapatsoMopaka I had it for 16 months, the running costs can be very high. I had a lot of parts needing to be replaced that you would expect on a car hitting 100,000 miles.
The biggest issue is making sure to look after the S54 correctly, which means not following the BMW service intervals, but doing about 75% of the milage they state.
I had to do the rotars/discs and pads. I had a lot of bushings with the suspension requiring replacement.
When I was putting the roof back up, my passenger got out and it made the system fail completely and trying to get that sorted is expensive.
I had to replace the rear brake lines, but that's very much a UK type of problem due to how we grit/salt the roads so much over here.
@@FelixIsMyName Oh okay mate... thanks for your response. Im looking at buying an older good looking BMW. This was one of my options
@@PapatsoMopaka I now have an E82 135i Coupe that I am making into a 1M clone. Got 483hp and 506flb atm.
@@FelixIsMyName Wow that sounds brilliant... do you have a UA-cam channel or instagram page where we can follow your progress with your project?
I’ve driven this car and it’s is every bit as good as sid says,having a weekend toy isn’t about practicality so buying an e46 because they are similar money is irrelevant when it’s a toy.this is a better drivers car then an e46 all day long! S2000 over this no way too slow and lacks class unlike the z4.
Z4 all the way.
RotrexfezST very well said sir
Oh yes the s2000 is slower 😂 especially with a vortech supercharger and a set of good tires... gtfo...
FX stock tho?
@@itsjoel stock vs stock id say the s54 engine is better, but then again... the f20c is one of the best motors ever built and doesnt sound shitty as the ST owner states...
S2000 is only fast in the right hands , not everyone know or can drive them on the toes and if you do you then get the whole philosophy behind them . Its a magnificent little car that is fun to drive , but if you're looking for outright straight line power , its not the car for you . M3 , Z4M is a class above of S2K so shouldn't be compared really imo . Im fortunate to own and drive S2K , M3 and ESS Z4 on track and can tell you , they're all great in their own right . Very different to each other in character and depending on track , theyre better at something to each other . Courses for horses and all....
The sound of that NA straight 6 🤤🤤🤤🤤
Thanks for the awesome video! I've got a Z4M roadster. Had a steep learning curve coz it has been 15 years since I drove a manual. Stalled a couple of times at the beginning... but never regretted this purchase. I find it funny that other big brands are charging sky high prices for limited runs of cars that are 'back to basics', 'driver focused', 'raw', 'don't have much sound insulation to reduce weight', 'manual transmission'. Can't help but have this knowing smile coz I've got this in my garage, does all kinds of awesome and it doesn't break the bank.
When you hooned it round the roundabout 😂😂😂
Well done, Sid. I think the people who get these particular cars (the S54 gen) are less concerned with outright speed and more interested in the driving experience and analogue feel. A very poor man’s 997 GT3 if you will. This car and the E46 M3 with a few basic mods are fantastic canyon/weekend cars.
One of my favourite cars. And the roadsters are even more bonkers to experience screaming up the road with the roof down. The noise is just phenomenal. Proper, aggressive drivers’ car 👍
Your review is right on! I searched for one two years ago for over 9 months and then a 20000km z4m coupe became available. Raucous,analog, and a challenge to drive and I love it. Ride is too stiff for Ontario roads but I use it as weekend toy to lake country. I too lament the passing of these visceral bmws that will never be seen again.
So Matt says he sold his 1M because he was sick of depreciation? Sounds like he didn't own a 1M then since the cheapest on Autotrader is going for £5k more than it sold for brand new. They've always been rare as rocking horse shit too!
Wanted one for years, glad it's gaining in recognition. Though stuff like the suspension, shorter final drive and carbon intake really takes it to another level of brilliance
Shorter final drive, is that like me taking a tooth off the front sprocket if my motorcycle to bring the power in at lower RPM sacrificing a little too end?
This dude looks like jazzy jeff from fresh prince... Cool video bud.
What an amazing car! I have been considering one of these for a while, and was put off by some of the magazine reviews. But I think your video makes for a very convincing statement. Thank you for sharing
I had an Interlagos blue M roadster back in the day, absolutely loved it and it was the only I've ever made my money back on a year later! Only issue was the gearshift, 1st to 2nd always felt very clumsy.
Another banging review
Thank you sir 👌🏽🔥
only the coupe!!! Better value!!
Great video as always mate. Absolutely love the car - just i would do mine, the owner has good taste ;)
Thank you sir. These are a spectacular Car 👌🏽
Excellent review I thoroughly enjoyed watching. I couldn't agree more for the money you buy Audi s3/r golf/m140i but you just can't rev upto 8500rpm limit these cars are way more enjoyable.
That sound and great looks, well refined any ideas on how it compares to the Z3 M Coupe, that’s a car we’d really like to get our paws on.
Looks very fun to drive. I'm more about fun that absolute performance or practicality.
As fast as tune m140i is pretty fast dude. Ffs a stock 335i is plenty of power. Ok ya when you get use to tuned m5s and m4s and w.e then those cars are pathetically slow back to back. But for actual road use this z4m is perfect. The sound the feeling you get when you rev up s54. Goddam i miss my e46.
The reason the m140i is so popular is that you chuck some eibach springs, spacers, Litchfield tune (450bhp), Quaife lsd and a decent exhaust system (Remus, bcs milltek or something like that) then you have a killer car
TOM_E91 still a tad boring,fast no doubt but boring.
No it's not, barely 1% of owners do that. I have dozens around me, all stock. They are popular because they are a great package out of the box, they are not a Golf R and the finance deals are still excellent.
@@ImBarryScottCSS Plus they are cheaper to insure than a Golf R.
Every man and his dog has one though. Boring.
RotrexfezST drive one it’s not boring it’s as fast as my c63 pp and handles just as well if not slightly better on the front
Epic car. I need an S54 in my e36!
Enjoyed your review, but seriously, keep up with a GT4 on track? You must be very talented, or competing with a fashionista who has heard the GT4 is cool and never feels the chassis working.
Great car great engine I have an e46 m3 and love it
I always planned to buy one of these once I came off my restricted licence. In Australia they could be had for 35-40k a year ago. Now they have jumped up to 50k-60k. If only I was born a couple of years earlier!
It is absolutely insane, how good the S54 can sound in a Zedd. The rasp in the E46 M3s was so hard to get rid of. If you jump between this and videos of a 40 Million dollar 250 GTO, prepare to be surprised. And sorry, but only wankers like the overdone fake pops & bangs in modern Turbos.
You look like the guy on loveliveserve
😂
Great video mate surprised you ain't got more subscribers also love them wheels on the bm
Thanks mate.
One day 🙌🏽
@@SidNorth in the new year i need to get out and drive a few supercars on a track day experience should be awesome
Are these newer S54 engines a bit more reliable that in the E46?
Its the same engine
Def a hidden gem Sid, ALL the right ingredients for fun.. and it appreciates too!! But how about a comparison with the ULTRA RARE Alpina Roadster S.... which, as luck would have it, is the car I own... just sayin'.
What's more special than a 1M
I had a z4 3.0 coupe.. absolutely loved it. Very rare and often get compliments from guys at the garage, sold it, but currently on the look out for z4m coupe, appreciating classic which if looked after will hold its value or make a few quid!
If i was worried about devaluation I would of kept the 1M that will increase in value quicker than a Z4M ever will, however I am a fan of the Z4M too
He regrets that already
S54>N54
Thanks Sid; nice vid. I have one of these and was wondering about upgrading to Cayman R or Boxster Spyder 987 - would you say it’s worth spending the extra £15k?
I’d call you old fashioned, yes. But I’m 45. :)
S54 engine without any of the subframe and strut tower cracking problems. What an amazing car.
I've had mine for six years and it always brings a smile. Never disappointed. The coupe just works, and people don't know about it. I get stopped all the time with people asking me what it is. It has aged very nicely.
Amazing vid, I am so interested but can I use it as a daily driver? And I am addressing the stiff ride quality here(ive been told it is quite stiff), will the ride be bearable?
I really wish there were more videos on this Z4M Coupe. Its literally a frankenstein car from the ///M parts bin. I heard that some part in the brake setup is shared with the E46 CSL and most of the front suspension is shared on an E36 M3 too. The low seating position and the torsional rigidity really makes me curious to see how it compares to the E46 M3 CSL. Sid, would be cool to see you compare this Z4M Coupe to the E46 M3 CSL and tell us which one you prefer to drive (ignoring the E46's awful SMG)!
smilepermile Yeah both steering rack & brakes are straight from the M3 CSL.
Engine from the e46 M3.
Front suspension is a modified e36 M3 and rear is basically straight from e46 M3.
Manual gearbox differ tho, I think Z4M use a Getrag while e46 M3 use ZF. Or vice versa.
@@pereldh5741 I'm glad that a Z4M owner yourself can confirm on this! Z4M is like a 'German TVR T350' in which it has a long bonnet, naturally aspirated straight 6, RWD, manual gearbox and fastback body. Great track driving videos you have btw, I subscribed to your channel now.
Before I even watch this video. YES BUY ONE
I had one with similar mods.. sold it.. miss it a bit, but got an NSX na1 now.
Asir Maimani you hi good taste sir!
I trully think this is the most beautifull car ever made
Have one....love it! And that S54 engine, so sweet and nasty!
Great Video. I've got one and still in love with the car !!!
watching this in 2022 when the cars 2x as expensive :(
Currently on eBay.
That Joel UA-camr with the Z4 better watch out!
😂👊🏽
You should both 100% buy one, they're so special in my eyes!! Buy buy buy!!
I've driven one and nothing comes close in the same class as these. S2000 has nothing on them and I can imagine they're superb on track from the experience I had in one. Which was completely standard as well!
Lucky enough to have a very low mileage 08 Z4mC. Had it for 6 years, and thinking of selling it for a 350 Exige or 997 911 C2S. But just not sure I can do it. I love it so much. A rawness that you just don't see in recent cars except Porsche GT's. Would I be making a mistake - what do others think of C2s, I've never driven one? But to all potential z4m purchasers, be warned if they are stock suspension then be prepared for the handling... They are a bit on the wild side! Not BMW's finest moment in handling, but every drive is epic. Mine even with the BMW strut brace fitted which Evo mag claimed tamed it quite a bit it... it doesn't 😀
Legionnaire Gonk do a video on it
@@1anre Oh, I'm not really a good candidate for being a UA-camr! Best left to others I think.
Sid, you should have a go in my 130i LE. N52 N/A straight 6 hatchback. Manual. £8k. Maybe one of the best performance bargains there is!
Agreed. I had a 5 dr 130i and adored it. Sold it for a 135i coupe. Regret that to this day. Quicker than a 130, but engine nowhere near as characterful.
It a coupae. Frigging hate this americanism
What about a 987 Gen 2 Cayman S compare to the Z4 M Coupe for similar money
Lamboguy Taste I know, but for me the Z4MC just looks so much cooler, and I think it has much more driving character, more fun really.
Z4 for me. Easy choice .
Z4 looks better, is faster and sounds wayyyy better with right set up.
Stefan Cupovic The Z4 M is slower than the gen 1 cayman s which only have 295HP. And I’m talking about the Gen 2 Cayman S with direct injection engine and 320HP 0-60 in 4.5second.
While the more powerful Z4 M feels quicker, its weight penalty more than wipes out its 35-horsepower and 11 pound-feet of torque advantage. it's close: The Porsche is 0.1 second quicker from 0-to-60 mph (4.8 seconds) and 0.2 seconds on to 100 (11.8).
@@jsracs ya youre right by 200kph difference is already .3 sec in favour of cayman. Porsche always does more with less lol. This is 987 gen were talkin about ya? I forget they upgraded it after like 2007 or something from 3.2 to i think 3.4. Cayman is sick car regardless but the styling of z4 is nicer to me inside and out. Plus the s54 sounds better goddam it sounds and fucken goooosss with headers and tune.
Nice review. The Roadster & the Coupe Z4M came out the same time tho. Both made in 2006-2008.
The Coupe has slightly tweaked suspension & quicker steering than the Z4M Roadster.
Do buy one without that dated satnav, the stylish Anders Warming interior looks all the better for it.
Even the std suspension is too stiff, however the Eibach Pro kit is a very good (& cheap) solution to everyday driving comfort. And looks!
Excellent video, as a Z4MR owner myself I agree with it all!
I actually wanted the Roadster over the Coupe, surprisingly. At 8/10ths it’s as good, so all of the time on the road. With an airbox and exhaust they’re the perfect open air sports car.
They make everything modern look and feel like an appliance.
A no sell with the steering wheel on the wrong side
Great video sid as usual but i will disagree on one point that car obviously I havent driven it but to say its as quick as tuned m140 is a high statement i would bet my house on that drag race because i think a m140 would absolutely walk that z4m i think a standed car would put up a decent fight
Drag race? Where are you driving 400m in a straight line? This would smoke a 140 though real roads or a track
krbcrwlr not saying it wouldnt it most definitely will but in a straight line is what I thought sid was referring too
A standard m140i would probably pull on a z4m (it definitely pulls on a e46 m3) never seen one race a z4m though
Hcp’s m140i with a pure turbo pulls on the new f90 m5, they reckon it’ll still pull on a mapped f90 m5
Ifk man its got some sick mods, the csl carbon intake with an exhaust and tune with a diff like he has is easely a 50hp gain.
You only discussed the engine (sound) throughout this review. What about, seats, visibility, steering feel, balance, cornering, weight distribution, ride quality, shifter feel, throttle response, clutch engagement?
Woah. Hang on.. Point taken but nothing wrong with a cheap well serviced M140i or M135i mate. Good fun for little ££££ Love that Z4M though. Stunning.
Pronounced “coo-pay.” Not “coop.” You keep chickens in a coop! Oh, and I have a 2007 silver Z4 3.0L si. coupe. Recommended.
Fuckin' ugly but interesting
I’m beginning to like this E86 Z4 ///M abit more than my beloved fave ///M car the. E46M3. My only fear is for a 6ft2 y’all individual, how easy would it be to heel and toe and sit comfortably in this coupe compared to the E46M3. And I’m definitely getting a CSL AIRBOX and some pipes if I do pick this over the E46M3
Awesome review!! In just 3 years these have almost doubled in price. Hard to find a clean, low mileage coupe for less than $40k now.
Residing in a country where warm weather is the norm, most part of the year...I would always buy the roadster version, I think they look sexier with the added bonus of transforming into a differt car at the touch of a button and last and in this case more importantly, you get to enjoy every frequency of that sweet engine note. I was always curious why the coupe is held at more regard than the convertible, it cannot only be rigidity and weight, after all you would only track the car like .1 percent of the time, the remaining 99.9 percent you are taking back roads, canyons, coast roads and tunnels. So as far as enjoyment factor comes in, the Topless keeps intriguing. Any comments?
This or a Nissan 370Z Nismo for the same money?
Answer is each to their own. This looks lighter. I think V6 sound with right exhaust sounds better. Nismo turns more heads as more rare. But probably not as quick as the Z4M. My area is full of bmw, mercedes, audi. So personally I would pick the Nismo. This is older and more raw. 370z is more refined. Z4M holds better value as its hit bottom depreciation and is back on the rise.
Kerr Thomson Porsche 718/370z
Did you say it‘s as fast as a tuned M140i? It‘s rather comparable to a stock M140i in acceleration, don‘t you think? But I agree with you you don‘t buy this for the acceleration!
I test drove one yesterday. What a car! Something to consider, the cockpit is very snug fitting, like you get tucked in. I am not a big guy either so the cockpit will feel small to most people.
Very stiff, you don't notice any roll whatsoever even with OEM suspension. Best feeling ever.
And then there's the Noise from the engine...
One of the best sound engines Ever! This is such a great car.. was lucky enough to drive one and they are great experiences....in my country not less then 40.000 Euros. Great Mods on the car, bringing all the music this S54 can deliver out! Great Review as always! Thumbs Up!
I sold my 2017 S3 and got a mint, low mileage z4m roadster. Do I regret it? No! Perfect weekend car and gives me disproportionate smiles per mile! It actually pulls the heart strings.... something you won’t get until you’ve driven one. It’s a keeper for sure!
The optional sat nav looks a bit Amstrad ish. I loved the Amstrad. Lol, particularly Sultan’s Maze.
How old r u? And what insurance company r u with? Does it cover you to drive any car?
Because I'm trying to find a policy that let's me drive any car but I'm under 21
Yes you should buy one as it’s a cheaper version of the New Toyota Supra that will be on sale soon...
Buy one too :)
Great review! I am restoring a Z4M roadster at the moment on my channel. Never a dull moment driving the platform. Love the coupe and would love to own some day.
Great vid my good sir 👍
With a tad more research, you'll find out , that the engine is legendary and race proven .
This car is a treasure… 👊🙏💪
Revisited this review, its prob the best if all M Coupe ones!
Is that Blackbush Airport off the A30? Great car either way, seen one absolutely destroy my mates M135i!
seen many a z4 understeer and crash on the nurburgring so be careful at or near the limit, or turn off DSC and good luck to you. mate had one, all I can remember about it was... understeer , and lovely engine and shape.
Setup all wrong, mine doesnt understeer in the slightest when theyve been properly Setup they are weapons
Yes Sid, all that fun and it appreciates in value.. what's not to love!!!.. but you should also do a comparison with the Stunning Alpina Roadster S.... if you wanna do a vid... I have that very car.
Like someone else noted, stock staggered tire sizes provokes greater understeer to save the driver. Perhaps you are meaning to reference oversteer, which is easy to encounter with DSC off. As someone who races a Z4M Coupe, I always encourage people to work their way up to turning off the traction control systems until you are able to drive smoothly and to their limits with them on. Given the shorter wheelbase of the Z4M Coupe compared to an E46 M3, rotation comes in quicker and needs to be anticipated. Hope this helps!
@@g35mr2 I guess though in stock form including suspension set up etc you will not get the car that sideway Sid was driving which is important to note. From memory,, the brakes left something to be desired and it really struggled on roads that weren't perfect. The steering feel wasn't ideal too. my friend dumped it for something else as a result.
I don't want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm for this car which is super quick. one of my friends has an M3 CSL and this car is probably quicker than it but unlike the CSL , this car doesn't deliver in some areas out of the box (stock) and people ought to be aware of that
@@andyp8464 Fair enough and I do agree with you on the second part. Out of the box, the Z4M Coupe leaves a little on the table. This review is consistent with some others - in addition to my personal experience - that with a little tweaking, it is a phenomenal car and feels more at home on a roadcourse then street.
I almost wonder if BMW knew this but did not see the ROI with such a limited run? This is, after all, a parts-bin car haha.
As for the brakes, they catch a lot of flak from folks that have never pushed them to the limit. On track with SS lines, fresh 600 fluid and track pads, they can take serious abuse lap after lap. Add cooling to the front and even better pad wear. Also, the steering rack on the Z4M Coupe is one of the best BMW has ever developed, but that is just my personal opinion.
Ive always liked the Z4M coupe, the rear end looks awesome M6 same design. Of course it's 50/50 I hear a lot say they hate them.
May have to find a deal somewhere, they don't seem to come around to often tho.
Currently have a 2011 E92 M3 frozen black edition, which I'd not get rid of, must save some pennies and keep a look out for sure.
I have one available for sale if anyone's interested for £17k 90k miles in silver
Man talking about the car at an airport was such a bad idea 😂
Very bad idea 😂
Yes, absolutely yes, holds its money better than any other car at its price point and it looks insanely good. Except how this one has different wheels and a few non standard black bits.
Excellent review, pretty much spot on. I've had mine for nearly 4 years and don't think I'll ever sell it (made that mistake with a CSL). One the great things about the Z4MC is that you'll very rarely see another on the road.....which I guess makes it's that bit cooler.
I had an e46 M3, absolutely loved the engine, and the way it drove actually but always wondered how it would be in a Z4M. The pace must be great and the interior was somewhat updated compared to the e46. I personally think it would be better in roadster form. Yes I know the coupe is stiffer and probably drives better but the z4 is supposed to be a convertible, and the engine will sound even more epic with the roof down. Roadsters sometimes have a slightly girly reputation but they do add to the experience - of course given the right weather which unfortunately we don’t get much of.
It sounds absolutely phenomenal! If someone who doesn't know a thing about cars saw this today, they would think it is a new model, definitely from the back. You hit the nail on the head with the comparison to the Z8 in terms of how well it aged... It's a unique package and a very nice shape too.
Great review. A total under recognized car, I got a 991RS and the Z4M is more fun to drive. Just the right power for the road.
Yes.
Oh I remember you I think!
You were with gaskings before he went to jail? Right?
Epic car and fantastic review from Sideway Sid, well I've got an E86 myself so I concur.
Simple question! Kia stinger, or a second hand one of these?
Great vid! Please check why the audio is clipping though m8
Great video man! I love the colour, puts my Z4 to shame tbh
Wait so how much would insurance cost you with this 😂?
Owned one of these for a few years. Fun car. Left it for a 135i. Not sure if that was a good or bad decision. The suspension was pretty tough, I have to say. Current car is a Porsche GT4 and the suspension on it is far more forgiving than my old Z4 MC.
you could've changed ?
Thank you. An appreciated review. My compliments to the reviewer. Please review more!
Car is exceptionally beautiful.
Possibly the best way to start a vid off!!!
M power!!! lovely video sid
Awesome review mate! In my op it looks better from the rear.
Do you know what the owner paid for this car?