29. Chadwick Part 5 Installing a Backscene at Chadwick Model Railway
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Good stuff Charlie....decorating masterclass hehe!! Just a quick tip for those whose wishing to know if their corner(s) are out would be to offer up a plumb line from the ceiling to see if/how much the walls are straight. Clearly in your example this would have to have been done before the shelving went in. We'll keep the scales secret from the missus lol
Hi Tase, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed my stressful exercise. Hey, it came good in the end, and, only one bubble in the morning. 😃 regards Charlie
Agreed. The back scene looks cracking mate. Look forward to next weeks episode. Best Tase.
Hi Charlie excellent video on back scenes as all your videos are I find the Lazer leveler idea as good one and have since been to B&q to check ok out prices anyway keep up the good work and I look forward too your future videos
I had right fun and games putting up my backscenes. It is amazing how many errors you can cover up with a few trees and hedges
It wasn’t my favourite task either Kelvin. Regards, Charlie.
Recently went to hospital today but this cheered me up.
Hi, I’m so pleased that it brought a smile to your face. Regards Charlie
Besides the wealth of information I have gained by watching you work I must say that I enjoy your tone and honesty. Thank you for sharing.
I’m so pleased that you enjoy my videos. Regards Charlie.
I'm glad to learn that someone else wants to operate their layout sitting down. Nice idea to flip up the baseboard rather than getting underneath. Keep up the innovation.
Hi Austin, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. Regards Charlie
Great video. I love the way you refer a few times to "Do or die". Carry on using Mrs Bishops kitchen items I think maybe the later may come sooner 🤣. But as always in depth infomation and guide lines for viewers to follow. So glad your on youtube, cheers Charlie
Thanks QC, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie.
It’s fun to go back to this and see everything here before it was put in.
Happy memories, Andrew, it seems such a long time ago. Charlie
Charlie, you made hard work of this! I applied mine to plywood boards on the bench and fixed the boards to the wall.
I had thought about that but I was concerned about the butt joints.
Regards Charlie
Excellent. Appreciate the humour as well, makes it much more normal and true to life. Nice choice of scenery.
Hi Alan,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Regards Charlie
Just in the past few months I have decided to re-enter model railroading after a layoff of some sixty years. Fortunately, I came upon one of your videos, and was immediately hooked. So far, I have watched about half, quite at random as UA-cam can make it difficult to find certain ones, but no bother - work hasn't started yet. I have plenty of time at only 78. What I really enjoy is seeing an individual honestly working his way through some challenges while explaining what is happening. I get very tired of some of the other model railway channels where everything is done in the great big shop, with numerous cuts and fades, so the humanity doesn't come through. (By the way, I also appreciate that you do not add on a lot of mindless background music!)
It has been a real change from the days of one dollar kits and Varney locos (Here across the pond), and that worst of all transgressions - Athearn's rubber-band belt drives on their diesels. Keep up the GOOD work, and press on - the humanity is what brings me by.
Thanks Jack, for such a heartwarming comment. Stay safe, regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie, When I was 15 I helped my mom and dad put wallpaper up in their new house. We pre-treated the wall, which was covered
with drywall - sheetrock - with a product called "sizing". This prevented the drywall from soaking up all of the water from the wallpaper
paste. Then we covered the wallpaper with the paste and applied it to the wall. Good video Charlie. Bill G Linwood Kansas USA
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Bill.
I too now pre-size the wall first.
Another top video. I love your modesty and how you go into every task with careful thought and get great results. I love how you explain what you do and between you and “sams trains” who you may be aware of, it’s got me back into model railways to the extent I have finally made a start on building my own layout to run my vast collection of locos and stock. I’m not even slightly artistic but you’ve given me the confidence to give it a go. My layout will feature mechanically operated points and semaphores, and the only electics will be to the track and eventually lights. Thanks so much for taking your time to share this with all your viewers. Thank you.
What a heartwarming comment Chris. Regards Charlie.
Well done Charlie!! Backscenes look brilliant. Enjoying watching your tips and advice on how to do things on modelling railway layout. Looking forward to following your progress on Chadwick Parkway. Keep up the good work Charlie!!!
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Shawn. Regards Charlie
It looks fantastic Charlie, you should be on TV. Very instructional and extremely entertaining. Thank you.
Thanks Philip, you’re too kind.
That's great back scenes really good, great way to get rid of bubbles is applying the paper using a small stiff sponge. Remember using many years ago applying wall paper.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Richard. It was a challenge!
Regards Charlie
Rather you than me Charlie. Wallpapering is something I’ve never done and having been absorbed by your efforts I certainly don’t want to wall paper on the vertical. Mind you, your efforts are fabulous and will no doubt enhance the overall look of Chadwick. A very entertaining video. Thanks. Paul
Hi Paul, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Great video Charlie and I take my hat off to you for tackling that on your own, I would most assuredly require the assistance of my dear wife. Regarding bubbles, if you have trouble removing them you could prick the centre of the bubble with a very fine needle, but this must be done before it fully dries. Cheers Greg
Hi Greg,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. It was a challenge! Fortunately, in the morning there was only one bubble / crease which can easily be hidden.
Good luck with your project.
Regards Charlie
plus 1 on the needle or pin and yes when wet
Really useful real time demo of the fiddly art of backscenes. Well done Charlie.
I’m so glad that you enjoyed it John.
Regards Charlie
I find it easier to first of all size the wall with dilute wall paper paste, let it dry. Then I apply paste to the back of the paper brushing with the dry brush. That way you can reduce the problems of bumps in the paper.
Don I totally agree.
In this case I wanted to follow the manufacturer’s instructions but next time (later this week) I will be sizing the wall first.
I was with you all the way! Heart in mouth Charlie. Very timely and great to watch. Thank you. Cheers, Jerry
Hi Jerry, I’m so pleased that I had your support. Regards Charlie
Charlie, Good job on the back scene. When "wallpapering", here is the recommend technique... Lay the paper out on your table scene down and with a wide brush, "paint" the glue onto the surface, brushing the brush off the edges and not onto the edges. Then take one end and fold to the middle and the other to the middle. Do not crease it tight at the fold. This is "booking the paper and allows for the paper to relax and become a bit saturated, taking the memory out of the paper to want to roll up on itself. then start6 at one end and get it stuck down. Work across and "unbook" the paper as you go. Do not past the wall. Brush it all down and if the paper has relaxed, it will not shrink away at the seams. Prick any bubbles with a pin to remove bllisters. Then leave it alone and let the glue dry and set the paper to the wall. Bob from Brecksville Ohio.
Hi Robert, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. Sadly I simply followed the manufacturer’s instructions during installation. Regardless I’m sure that you noticed that I was close to throwing the first piece in the bin, such was my frustration.
Good luck with your project, regards Charlie
Always good presentation with simplicity as its key..well done..
Glad you liked it David.
Nightmare!
Well done Charlie 😁
It’s funny, Nick, I still have nightmares! Regards, Charlie
Having done plenty of wallpaper in the past, a newly painted wall should be sized before hanging the paper. To do this you should apply a thin coat of the wallpaper paste to the wall and allow it to dry completely, even waiting a day. This allows the wall to absorb enough paste to prevent what happened to Charlie when he first started, having the paste getting into the wall and having the background falling from the wall.
Steve Willis
I couldn’t agree more Steven.
However, what I decided to do was follow the manufacturers instructions, what a disaster.
Backscenes are great.
Usually the paste is put on the wall and on the back of the paper... it makes the paper damp and avoids it having the strength to curl up when applying it to the wall
... and I have more to do next week!
@@ChadwickModelRailway guess I commented right on time ;-)
Wow great back scenes ,very tense trying to get rid of the air bubbles ,but enjoyed the tuition ,think like you said perhaps a extra person to help would have been good but you got there with the bluetack .
Hi Ray, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. However, it was a bit of s struggle! Regards Charlie
Looks cool 😎 For interest I have fixed Masonite to the wall for back scene using Velcro making for ease of mounting or removal & change if need be. Works well. Cheers Dave.
Hi David, I’m sure that it works well but what is Masonite?
Masonite is the name used in South Africa for what I remember is "Hardboard" in the UK. (HDF)
You have the patience of Job Charlie. I would have shredded it by now. Geoff W.
You will never know how close I came to shredding it. I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Afternoon Charlie. Couldn’t watch on Friday as I was so busy at work 😫 And on Saturday I treated my fiancée to a steam train trip from Liverpool to Scarborough we picked it up from Manchester Victoria behind Leander 😊 We had a fantastic day out and fish and chip at the seaside. Well what an effort putting those back scenes up.........🤔 Mine are still in there tubes lol 😆 I might have a go now I’ve watched you Charlie bull I’ll ask Corinne for the use of her kitchen scales first 👍 Keep the good work up love watching your progress. Thanks again for putting your time in to show us railway enthusiasts your tips 👍 Have a good week am working away until Saturday afternoon now so I’ll be looking forward too Friday already Stevie.
Hi Stevie,
Well you’ve certainly had a great week.
I’m so pleased that you enjoy my videos.
Regards Charlie
Nice to see someone braving the wallpaper paste way. Glad it's worked out for you! I think I will be going with the other stuff myself due to it being printed on Polypropylene which is probably suited a little better to a loft environment. Not entirely looking forward to starting it but like you say I think it makes such a massive difference having a proper backscene. Cheers
Hi Michael, good luck with yours and do let me know how you get on. Regards Charlie
what a picture, great work Charlie. thank for sharing tony
Hi Tony, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Hello Charlie,
I have just come back to model railway and I find your videos very helpful,
keep up the good work thx tony.
Thanks Tony, you're too kind.
Charlie, if it takes you that long to paste one piece of paper I wouldn't dare ask you to decorate my living room !!!! great vid thanks :-)
At least it made you smile.
Well done Charlie.
I bet it had you worried for a while there.
Lovely back scenes. It looks really well.
I'm really looking forward to this layout developing.
A few general tips to anyone doing this.
(1) Paste the whole length of the wall to match the back scene piece you are putting up. Don't skimp on the paste on the wall. This will help the paper slide around & help you to get it started more smoothly. Brush the paper from the centre outwards towards the edges with the brush. This will help in avoiding wrinkles & bubbles.
(2) Reverse roll the piece of back scene before offering it up to the wall. That will take some of the spring out of the paper & make it easier to handle.
(3) If you are right handed put it up like Charlie has done as all the control is in your right hand & your other hand is just for holding the paper.
(4) Always follow the instructions that come with the back scene. They are there for a reason.
Hi Tony,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
You have made some valid points and along with the instructions bode well.
Regards Charlie
toooo true bRITher
Brilliant Charlie. Looks really good. Looking forward to future developments. Peter.
Hi Peter, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Little tip for those photo backscenes that I picked up from Everard Junction's channel was to create curves in the corners from ply - it eradicates the problem with uneven walls :)
Hi Kewrail,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video.
I did watch Richards’s video but as I’m having a large hill on the right hand side, I decided against the curve.
I haven’t decided on the left hand side yet.
Regards Charlie
back drops. are like the necessary evil most modelers want and need. you might be right, two people doing them might make it easier.
the way i like to do them is lay down some bristle board, and glue the back drops to them. you don't have to worry about them being straight then. but bubbles are still a issue. I cut away the extra bristle board and now can hang on the wall..
thanks for doing them your way. wall paper paste might make it a bit easier, but yep two people.
Hi Sparky,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Perhaps we need a team of specialists working their way around the country! Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, Its nice to see the back-scene being applied. I've made the mistake of constructing the baseboards before the back-scene. Unfortunately now i'll have to use half a scaffolding plank, supported by a saw horse and lay on my stomach to reach in the corners of the layout. (like a scene from Laurel and Hardy) I'm not looking forward to it. An excellent video, thanks for sharing.
Hi John,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Can you not put yours onto plywood and then install it?
Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, The plywood for the back-scene has been screwed and glued securley to a supporting frame beneath the roof purlins in the attic. I also have I D back-scenes to hang, but didn't really think about how I'm going to reach the corners, until watching your video. Oh well, I'm up for the challenge, regards John.
I wish you luck John.
Regards Charlie
Should of sized the walls first let dry than hang the backsean and use a felt. ROLLER because it rolls out air bubbles a brush does not if you get air bubbles use a small sowing neddle to make a hole in bubble let's air out than brush or roll bubble disappears for corners use a plumbob for straight uprights
Yes Mark, this was a really steep learning curve for me. Regards Charlie
Nice video Charlie, I have the same make and size back scenes but the sky version, will follow your tips for attaching them to my layout.
Michael
Hi Michael,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Good luck with your project.
Regards Charlie
Well that was a very tense 1/2 hour although very entertaining! I have often wondered why nobody didn't just wallpaper the back scene on and you did a very nice job, it looks great. I might have a go but, unfortunately, my boards are already in place.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Linda. Regards Charlie
Apologies, I think my hand somehow typed & sent the last msg when I was moving my iPad around the house after watching your video. Good instructive videos by the way which I am gradually watching working through whilst I build a loft set for my grandson.
Not a problem, it’s great to have you onboard.
Well done it seemed a struggle but you got there in the end.
I’m so glad that you enjoyed it John. Regards Charlie
I'm not a decoratist but my dad used to put a slit in an air bubble to expel the air if that's any help. It looks fantastic can't wait to see the progress
Hi Leo, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Great job! Your backdrop looks awesome! Linda👍🏻🚂
Hi Linda, I’m so pleased that you like it.
Regards Charlie.
Well that is certainly a labour of love but does look amazing now it is up
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Chris. Regards Charlie
Great video enjoyed watching looking forward to the next one
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Dan. Regards Charlie
Use a roller no bubbles more efficient than a brush Charlie
Not convinced on this one David,.
I have just been watching your latest video - great one as allways - and I noticed the bare piece of wall behind the new board. I couldn't help thinking aboat your struggle with putting up your backscene in this one. It is rather difficult to put up wall paper vertically. I would cut it up in bits and then do one piece at the time. Or I would have someone to help me :-) . Ordinary wall paper glue is probably not the best choice for this job, because the sceneic paper is glossy on the backside too, I would think and therefore can't soak up the glue the same way, as ordinary wall paper can. I would go for anothter kind off glue. Bobbles are not a problem. You just poke a small hole with a needle and then press the air out, before the glue has dried up.
Yet another adventure for me !
Charlie, let the paste soak into the paper for at least 15 minutes before fitting, this will illuminate bubbles
I understand your point but I chose to follow the manufacture’s instructions.
Im just printing a sky out now as we speak,
Looks good . Nicely done ..
Thanks Jim.
Just catching up with back catalogue! Well done as ever. I hope that Mrs B didn’t find out about you using her scales!,,
My good lady works Tuesdays and Wednesdays!
If I might stick my four penn`orth in - pasting the wall is always going to give problems because the paper goes on dry THEN expands as it draws the moisture in. This gives rise to bubbles and raised creases. Just my thoughts, good stuff otherwise.
Hi Hazel, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Pasting the wall was recommended by the manufacturer, hence the process.
Regards Charlie
Yes, and Solvite type pastes when mixed contain more water than any others. That water has to go somewhere (into your backscene). Use an adhesive with less water content.
Another great UA-cam clip Charlie, and great topic to,, back scenes are great specially the ones that are based local to those with layouts based on certain areas. Always brush from the Centre of your wall paper in an outward motion, never allow paste / glue to come back in on to your photo or wall paper front. You have done a great job Charlie. Thumbs up mate.
Hi Jamie, I’m so glad that I had your support. Regards Charlie
O9H CHARLIE! PASTE THE PAPER,NOT THE WALL...IS THAT HOW YOU PAPER ROOMS AT HOME??
WHAT A PALAVER...
We live and learn Larry. Regards Charlie
Ohhh, I felt your frustration Charlie.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. It was somewhat stressful!
Thank you for your most instructive video presentation. I have never been that impressed with backscene "technology", up to now, but seeing your application & the quality of the backscene itself may have changed my mind. My 00 railway is already running, but I did leave space behind all of my main viewing area half relief installations for a pasted on board, backscene if I so desired. I know in my mind the kind of backscene picture that I would like, but can you explain why there are separate backscenes for different scales, since prospective & distance are relative to where we stand, not the scene scale, or am I missing something. I have some buildings at the back that are N scale, since that aids the distance viewing, or at least cheats our view.
Hi Philip,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. I try to be as honest as possible.
Regarding scale it’s a bit of a minefield.
If you Model in N, you could find some back-scene buildings look too large. Perhaps phoning the supplier, as I did, might allay your fears. I used ID Backscenes.
Regards Charlie
Great video, Charlie.
Glad that you enjoyed it Nigel.
Regards Charlie
Charlie l think u should re-edit the video n add some dramatic music coz me like the rest of us were on the edge of our seats with all that tension mate! Looool. Looking brill tho Charlie n l think u should release 2 videos a week to keep us ur public happy!! Looool! All the best. John
Hi John, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. The stress was bubbling just beneath the surface.
Regards Charlie
Thanks, mate. Good videos, keep it up. Cheers
Thanks Mark, I’m so pleased that you enjoy them.
Charlie ,I'm also retired and a new and inexperienced modeller. My biggest horror was the thought of crawling undo the baseboard fixing and wiring in point motors. I take your point of putting the baseboards on there side to undertake this work. However does that mean your bus wire is plugged from board to board. If this is so what plugs do you use.
Tonka47
Hi Michael, I just use plug together chocolate block. Do you know what I mean?
Chadwick Model Railway Hi Charlie many thanks for the quick reply.
Charlie can you do my living room? :-) Nice background!! Thanks for this video. Cheers Onno.
Hi Onno, I’m so pleased that you are still enjoying them. Regards Charlie
Charlie. You mention you can get mirroed version of the ID backscenes. Where can you get those? I have tried around, but nobody seems to know anything about mirroed versions.
Hi Henrique,
ID Backscenes will print a mirror image of their backscenes. I gave them a call and they were very helpful.
5:37 that transition... Hahaha! However your lens is set up or your camera is positioned, it really messes with the perspective on that room. I had no idea the spacing between the board and the shelf above on that back wall in the initial shot was as tall as it actually was. When you get right up to the wall, you can tell. It was just kind of a jarring transition. Felt almost Alice in Wonderland like... The wall appeared to get bigger! I'm not looking forward to backdrops... Not cause I can't do it... I just feel like it's that necessary evil... Every layout ends up looking like the set to an old movie, with an obvious painted backdrop that _totally_ looks like it belongs. I wonder how a series of landscape features that drop off before the next, each set to smaller scales would look in the back several inches. Kinda liek having rolling hills that cover rolling hills behind it, bringing the diorama to eye level to create a horizon. The backdrop would still be there, but set behind another rolling cap that drops off the eye line. I think if done right, it could work... If you're gutsy, you could even try a Z scale track off "in the distance"... For perspective. To work, you'd have to have the rear of the landscape come up to close to eye level I think... I'm not sure, but I _really_ feel like that would be critical.
The catch, of course, is the space required. Each scale reduction (and thus perspective shift) would require some space. It's also rather dependent on the backdrop being set, again, "off in the distance". I don't feel it'd work well with a city scene... Rolling hills, or mountains though... Maybe. I dunno. I'm just brainstorming.
Hi Rich,
Many thanks for your thoughts.
I went back and looked at that transition. Wow, it’s a real shocker.
Yes, perspective is a prickly subject with so little room to construct depth.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. Regards Charlie
Tip 1: when cutting a butt joint intending to join one piece to the other, cut BOTH pieces, one over the other so that, when they are placed together, the cut line is an exact fit.
Tip 2: when wanting to fix a backscene to a backboard PASTE THE BOARD, not the paper!
Disclaimer: this method is from previous experience, I am not an expert!
Hi Bobby, using a steel rule, the edges were indeed straight. Clearly I pasted the wall, not a board. However, below is a comment to paste the paper. All that really matters is that you end up with a satisfactory result. Regards Charlie
Painfull to watch...😆
Even harder to paste.
Good luck with your layout too.
Hh b. No. B b b
? I’ve no idea what you mean.