Why does Japan work so hard? | CNBC Explains
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2018
- Japan has some of the longest working hours in the world. CNBC's Uptin Saiidi travels to Tokyo to understand its corporate culture and see explore how the government is trying to make a change.
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It is ironic that Japan has created games, mangas and anime but they don't have time to enjoy them.
They work long hours, but less productive. So go figure...
MIGSDR less productive so their country is very rich and advanced right?
Watching manga and playing games is considered work by salarymen!
Dangg so true..
@@vickysingson3802 did you even watch the video? They're not in good shape as they were decades ago. Just this morning i heard in CNN that 20% of their population are 70+yrs old. Rapid population decline = people overworking more to make up for the lack of workers. Overworking could lead to karoshi or prevents them to start a family because of the lack of free time which also contributes to the population decline. They're also not that open for immigration compared to other countries. Ofcourse overworking doesn't mean better productivity either.
if i worked over 80hrs and not got paid for it. i'd burn down the building. thats truly messed up.
🤣🤣🤣 and thats how america leads in mass shootings
👏🤣🤣
@@ibejibenson1783 how did u even fit in that uninvited logic ?
@@earthflower7233 😂😂😂😂
@@ibejibenson1783 I'm not even american and I would do the same
Someone: My life is miserable
Japanese workers: hold my work hours
😂😂
He never actually discussed why they work so hard, he just expressed the fact that they do work hard.
He did, GDP 1950s
He said it though
The reason is that the culture sees long working hours as proof of commitment and energy.
It's not like these insane hours are always productive. They tire people though
The long hours are cultural, as he said. It is seen as rude to be the first to leave. In some countries, you don’t leave work until the boss leaves and there are still companies where it is expected that you will go out with your work team after hours to drink at izakaya and karaoke bars. Again, you aren’t supposed to be the first to leave. All of this is due to the cultural idea that the individual is less important than the group: these after work activities are seen as team building activities and are expected. So, you may be “allowed” to leave work at 10 pm, but you are also expected to go drinking until 3 am; go home, get up at 7 am and go back to work for 8 am to do more unpaid overtime getting yourself “prepared to work” by 9 am. It all comes down to cultural norms.
“If working hard made you rich laborers would be millionaires”
True that
Thats the problem, that type of understanding. Its working smarter while working hard. Just donating your calories into a bottomless labor pit does not increase your wealth. Take more risks, find something your passionate in first and your hard work will automatically follow as you will become obsessed with getting better at it. Then comes money. But money should never be your first goal or it will usually never work or end bad. Good luck.
Ahmad Ali Baig same with nurses
Stealing and exploitating makes you rich. All the other are BS..
@@npineapple3077 in reality share holders do none real work for the society, they just sit and wait for their investments to bring them money, And they get the most of the wealth created by all others. They re literally useless parasites..
They worked so hard for the future generations that they actually forgot to make future generations 😂😂
People are just starting to realize if working 80+ hours of unpaid overtime is the future, then why put a kid through that hell.
Lol
@@YouLose ikr
Hmm thats true
absolutely correct . There future comes from some other countries
I worked for a bank in Tokyo, and yes they work long hours but it was rarely working hard. A lot is due to the culture of hierarchy & saving 'face'. For example, we were told never to leave the office before your boss. A bit of an issue when you finished your work by 4pm and your boss is still there till 10pm! You have to find ways to occupy yourselves for those 6 hours. So on paper I worked a 14 hour day but in reality there was maybe only a few hours of actual productive stuff done.
Another thing was endless meetings, worse than anything I've seen in the US or UK. And meetings are rarely productive due to the face saving aspect - it's generally bad etiquette to disagree strongly with someone in a meeting in front of others even if their ideas are terrible.
The average Japanese salaryman also drinks extremely heavily. We would typically go out for dinner with our team 4 nights per week & we'd all get drunk - so most days a significant amount of staff are nursing hangovers. Again due to the hierarchy culture you can't really say no if your boss invites you out for dinner, which ends up being almost every night.
It's really not a surprise to see Japan's productivity levels plummet over the past decades.
Thank you for your comment. He didn't imagine the Japanese had this mentality.
You are completely correct.
Thank you for context
I am Japanese and worked there for 15 years. I was the last to clock in and the first to clock out. I didn't work overtime. I organised my work and finish it as soon as possible. I believe in efficiency not lengthy waste. No bosses and co-workers criticised me. I took holidays and enjoyed both work and my personal life.
Smart. I do the same but I’m not in Japan lol
Why doesn't everyone else think like you?
You are full of it...tatemae
You don’t even know what Tatemae means.
🐟😤
Behind of japan successful story, we didn't see their failures, stress, anxiety, depression, frustration, dissatisfied, disappointment, etc. that end them to die or commit suicide.
Yes first we should care for our selfs then think about culture or nation
I heard only 7% of the Japanese workers are satisfied and enjoy their jobs.
23% of them feel normal,
and the rest, 70% of them are dislike their jobs, and are not satisfied...
Meh.
Westerners obsess over Japan too much. Ignoring their own problems.
Model minority myth
Their doctrine is good, and wrong at the same time 😐 Just imagine: if only they value the "contribution to the company's growth" over "time spent there" they would have been the greatest nation in the world, no contest! Because to mold an entire working class of a country to be that workaholic is an amazingly well done job
Dude, you work for living, and not live for working..
Most Japanese can't seem to understand this simple concept..
They work for the betterment of the world and not just for themselves...
Onichannnn
@@vishnupillai300 Yes but the world starts with every single person. Imagine the unhappiness of one person multiplied by millions. That's some serious depression stats.
@@BIZKIT551 I think you (and many other people from individualistic cultures) don't understand the concept of a highly collectivistic society where your personal life doesn't really matter as much as what you are adding to the society. For most Japanese work is their main pathway to add value to their society and hence a very high priority in their definition of success.
Japanese Government and companies:
“don’t work!”
Japanese People: “No”
bruh
Debt!
They don't pay enough and say it😂💀
I dont think people in Japan are necessarily working hard, they just have a crappy work culture that makes Japan great in some areas but crappy for work. if you look at their productivity, they are a lot lower than people expect. That indicates that the hours spent at work are time consuming and non-productive. it is a demoralizing when you have to spend extra hours to play up to management when youre not really doing anything anything productive just so you can fit in.
It's better than not doing anything at all. Not doing anything leads to mental health issues.
@@hotdog05 Ah, but Japan has a high suicide rate relatively speaking. They also have literal death from overwork as a public health issue.
Not forming familial bonds or relationships must definitely also lead to mental health issues.
@@Ioannikios174 Forming familial bonds and relationships is always a choice.
Anything anything
Japan is the one country the world accepts exploitation as work culture. Change the country in the story to any other countries and watch those human right activists roar. I dont like Japanese work culture but my boss is just ENDLESSLY PRAISING THEIR WORK CULTURE. No one disagrees with him when he say the magic word "like the Japanese".
"This is why anime and manga are mostly during highschool, because after it, it gets worse."
-some guy on a youtube video
i feel like i heard this in trash taste or gigguk video
@@khalilelhoussine5186 it was also covered by The Anime Man and Gaijin Goombah when they collaborated, I think
k
True. You've got a native's support.
@Guppy's Gaming Channel yeah, theres a dark side to every country, including Japan
I am Japanese who worked for Japanese company from1989-1993. Left Japan to NYC, working for myself happy. When I was in Japan, Co workers and I, we all worked hard 9am to 11pm every day including every other Saturday and half of the vacation days were not taken. I think they are so detail oriented, spending so much time on every details causing longer time to finish working.. Also we have group mentality (which is not always bad). So if everybody else are still working, you can not leave office.. Many of my girl friends built great carrier in well known company (they are fashion designers so women can be top level but not all industries are same for women), making good money. But they have nothing else. None of them are married (they wanted to be married if they could), not even one of them has boyfriend and they are in their 50th. Still working long hours after 25 years plus. It is my own beautiful country that I love and admire. But I can not live like them.
I dont believe you. Stop trashing the honorable people of Japan.
@Trump supporter Don't be stupid, I have friends who work on a Japanese companies, all they say about it are true. Despite Japanese companies enforcing for long hours of work they are unproductive, you also can't leave even if you are already done. Overtime is common up to 11pm at night. I know this because I once call my friend on the phone and he was still in working at hours 10pm. Constant overtime also leads to mental fatigue, and mental fatigue leads to unproductivity.
www.tofugu.com/japan/japanese-work-ethic/
soranews24.com/2015/02/10/despite-their-hardworking-image-are-the-japanese-really-just-as-lazy-as-the-rest-of-us/
@@javier.alvarez764 funny i also have a friend and she told me otherwise. The chinese could never compete with us Japanese, they are jeoulous of Japan highly ordered and functional success
@Trump supporter lol you need to wake up. Japan is maybe the number one in technology in the 1980s, but that was years ago. Btw I'm not white, I also don't like China, but even I know China is economically rising and would soon replace USA as an economic power. Even South Korea is now technologically far more advance than Japan that still use fax machines and flip flop phones. Your country is so honorable that they still don't acknowledge the comfort women aka the sex slaves in WW2, even the inhuman experiments of Unit 731 was coverup by your government, ignored, and pretend that it never happened. Germany is far more honorable, they acknowledge the mistakes of the Nazis, and don't pretend, coverup, or ignore that it never happened.
Japan is the only one sabotaging and holding himself that's why China and South Korea got ahead than you. Your country is still stuck from it's old fashioned way, and unproductive work mentality that it got behind, and it will continue to do so unless you people change, and improve your system.
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Companies are only putting up a facade of productivity. In other words, we're actually not doing much during overtime TBH.
In his book *The End Of Work* (1996) Jeremy Rifkin wrote aboutJapan's 'Karoshi' system (= crash). Their production lines were calculatedly and continuously sped up until workers started to collapse (or crash) with exhaustion. When they determined that limit they would run the lines to _just below_ the crash limit to keep people manically working but with minimal crashing (at least in the immediate term).
It's so very clear that Amazon whole-heartedly embraced those Karoshi practices, no?
They want maximum profits, I'm no socialist or anything but without regulations, companies would all be like that, forcing you to work 12h and paying the bare minimum.
@@iamfighterman9646 Hi corporate troll *@iamCAPITULATORman* or should that be *@iamCOWARDman* did that massive wedgie you just gave yourself draw blood? It sounded EXCRUCIATING from over here.
*If you understood any ANTHROPOLOGY of human societies over the last 200,000yrs or more you would realise that Karoshi working conditions are anything but 'normal'.*
_Karoshi conditions are _*_deliberately pathological._* If that's what you prefer for yourself then ENJOY your lifetime of corporate reaming. After all HELL is right here on this earth no-where else. HEAVEN is also right here but you have to work, with fullness of _empathic heart,_ for that to transpire.
For 99% of human history on this planet we lived in mutually co-regulating and co-organising societies where the survive/thrive work - yes, even hunting, gathering, planting etc - were kept to an absolute _minimum,_ which is possible when:
*(1) you know what you are doing* and
*(2) you know the Life-support environment in which you are doing it very intimately, that is, **_you practice sustainable 'totemic stewardship'._*
Why did they keep their 'work' (no such societies even had a word for work!) to a minimum? There are 2 main reasons:
(1) because humans have large brains which develop slowly, taking years to mature, and which require a very high diversity of inputs to develop properly, it quite literally "takes a village to raise a child". The inputs are: developing 'emotional range', 'cognitive range', mental skills, physical skills, communicational skills, cultural skills, how to navigate by the stars across vast oceans, how to track animals and find the right foods (and medicines) in every season etc. These people also spoke 3,4 or 5 languages of their many different neighbors whom they traded with.
(2) because it takes a lot of communicational effort to sustain a mutually co-regulating society full of well developed and highly skilled individuals with minds of their own. So they needed to spend a lot of time with each other to make sure that everyone was healthy and happy. By turning all this effort into socio-cultural activities and celebrations the effort of mutual social control became effortless: "Order For Free"
The next time BEFORE you start mindlessly pummeling your qwerty-board how about you "DO YOUR RESEARCH!" as you mordant conspiracists are so apt to holler.........
@@huehue5286 Blame bill clinton and all of the other young liberal democrats who destroyed the New Dealer's FDR Regulatory Economics which has proven itself to be humane and yet allowed Capitalism to operate under FORCED HUMANITARIAN WORKING CONDITIONS.
What work in one country DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN IT CAN WORK IN AMERICA! America is different from Japan. American work culture is different from Japan's work culture.
Few of my co-workers are transferred from Japan and South Korea, (I work for a Japanese IT company) they were really surprised by their limited working hours and paid OT here. Even so that most decided to work here for an extended period, even bringing their spouse and children here. That being said they are still the most hardworking people I have ever seen.
South Korea it’s not any better...
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq You have no conscience and no humanity.
@@mateotinoco2393It's hell.
I mean Japanese people are too polite. They don’t complain when they were young at school, so they think that stop working or resting are bad thing.
Exactly! I agree with your opinion
They do complain, in a very unhealthy way... Often higher position member judges the lower and uses ''I'm older than you so you should listen to me no matter what''
Yes, from young age the society nurtures fear in them that if you idle for a bit, you are a bad member of society. That's why many workers would pretend doing something in front of PC
@@puurfectlysplendid that is over generalised can you tell me how are young generation with it
I'll check it
Cost of living there is very expensive, they probably won't notice but if they took a vacation to other countries they will be suprised how cheap it is.
It's isn't work ethic that drives them to over work, it is fear. Fear, shame and guilt are all the fundamental aspects of Japanese society. They feel guilty for taking a paid vacation because they know that their colleagues would be working and they are fearful that the whole company would be resentful of that one individual that chooses to take the day off or leave work early. They are not actually working to finish work, they work to create more work so they don't ever have to finish working. This mentality starts young at school age and continues till they die from exhaustion and depression. It is only natural that their birth rate is declining.
MUA Toru Does it actually represent this?
Timeline of Japanese salaryman:-
Birth
*WORK*
Death
You Japanese? 🤔 I'm not sure if I can agree with all of what you are saying.
Kenneth Louis She actually does appear to be Japanese, Kenneth.
I think because of the social norm as a whole stresses that achievement comes in the amount of work and how well one performs. Outside of that norm, is a lonely departure and failure to produce a flourishing future.
MUA Toru The birth rate is mostly negatively affected by female empowerment, but ultra long working time also hurts.
It's crazy how people think 3-5 years in trading is a long time to get rich, but don't think 40 years at a job is a long time to stay broke .
Good investment= passive earnings= no dependency on the system or government
The wisest thing that should be on everyone wise individual list is to invest in different streams of income that doesn't depend on the government to bring money especially now the pandemic is hitting economy hard
The best thing I've heard today..... "Making your money invisible " is such a simple powerful concept that I think it is a damn shame that it isn't taught in schools
Talking about investment are you into any am confused which one is okay
Bitcoin is the only true democracy ever exists in the world
I’m the one Japanese who really hate Japanese society and moved abroad for some other reasons as well. I’d say Japan is one of the best places to PLAY but definitely not to WORK. I’m so glad enjoying stressless life in overseas for more than 10 years now.
In India, People don't want to stay in office after 5 pm.
Which is kinda correct.
Manish Bharti Manish Bharti Thailand & Myanmar also they don’t want to stay in the office after 5 PM and some time they go back early 15 Mins before 5 PM.
In Morocco people don't come to office at all 😂😂😂
Because it doesn't pay
@Coontash you're so smart🤔
"work more than 80 hrs a week on overtime..."
Man I'd do that, the pay's probably real go-
"...and most of these hours are unpaid."
WHAT!? *WHAT!?*
Same here in Indonesia, I heard china same also
@@bachtiari8960 sama. Karena itulah mama gua mau buka warung dari pada kantoran. Karena kerja Kantoran itu Perbudakan Era Modern
@@Samuelrodrigues_ iya gan setuju banget, gw jadi buka start up sendiri, gw coba MNC sana sini sama aja, banyak yang OT gk dibayar. Parah, harus ada yang gerak nih revolusioner
gua aja bayar OT buruh gua per jam.... kata sapa indo gak bayar Ot ?
@@bachtiari8960 not really china is a socialist country and workers can't work more than 8 hours a day
I have a friend who worked in a Japanese company for 10 plus years. He said the Japanese only appear to work hard . Long hours but often the workers just stay late without doing anything . Just checking details that has been gone over before. Minor changes in documents that make no difference .
It's normal in white collar, but they at least have this privilege of doing nothing. In blue collar jobs you can't hide that you're doing nothing and still have to keep working and some jobs can be gruesome.
Lies again? Get educated work smart
@@NazriBNo lie?
True
It's intriguing how different nations approach work-life balance. As a young adult, I wonder about the effects on mental well-being and family life. Balancing productivity with personal time should be a global priority.
There is a big difference between working hard and being in the office for a longtime.
It's funny that they showed this data on ineffectiveness. I'm sure the bosses will work on it 😂
Agreed, i have a coworker who have experience as a consultant at a japanese marketing firm way back ago. The culture of doing nothing in the office until 9pm is very prevalent, the ineffieciency in manhours is like the series "The Office" but way worse.
Yeah
I think efficiency is everything
I can tell you they spend 50% of the time in pointless meetings and writing useless reports
@@hailsatyr then why complaint you have pay well even thought you doing useless thing that use small energy, doesn't mean that just you're the one that lazy and being ungratefull
BALANCE is key to life. Avoid extremes.
Yes learn from Germany
Extremes is what created every innovation. Everyone crying for balance but they dont really understand its consequences.
Right
Agree
@@missionpupa thats not true.... mindless working depends on the position is useless for the long run... its the crazy people who changed this world if you think about it and its those with balance can maintain that innovation.
This is insane, because in Indonesia, Japanese factories, they are very kind to their employees, the salary system is almost perfect, the management will always count every hour you spent to overtime, , , working in Japanese factory is the most enjoyable and highest salary you'd got even if you were just only high school graduation
What is the industry you work at Japanese company in Indonesia? What is your job title and how is the salary compare to the same factory in Japan?
@@angelsub9184 Yamaha Motorparts Manufacturing Indonesia
I was just an operator for melting die casting
The comparison i could make is the salary was double than my province minimum salary
That's why Japan is literally a victim of her own success.
My cousin is half-Japanese and was born and raised in Japan. The first time she spent Christmas with us in the Philippines she cried because it was the first time she ever experienced a genuine festive atmosphere. That was more than 15 years ago, she moved to the Philippines permanently and is now married with 2 kids.
Damn !
and living in poverty and crime?
Some people hate japan and some people love it.
@@FIR2031 Wow! I am appalled by your ignorance. Philippines is a developing country. We might not have those advancement that most rich countries enjoy but we aren't as backwards as you think.
@@FIR2031 so ignorant
To work is important yet working without no life means useless..
Seriously bro! You work to make a life, not to give it up to work.
If you work to make a living then what the point of working yourself to dead?
Working with no life or working without life..!!
Hahaha why not compare it to people doesn't want to work not just have useless life but a burden to other
Thats about productivity dude, if people smart like White americans they can work less, but productivity is high
I graduated engineering school with 2 guys who did a 16 month internships at Honda Canada while I did mine at GM Canada. When Honda offered both an engineering position when they graduated, both said "hell no" because of their nightmarish workload.
Investment are stepping stones for success. Waiting for the government to provide is a big waste
Well said investing is good but investing in the right thing is the actual key to success.
The right choice of investment has always been a big problem for me because I know that picking up the wrong investment will leave a big scar in the future...
Investing in Bitcoin is another way of ensuring steady cash flow, I've been earning every week for a year now.
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I remember asking a friend why he was working every Sunday even though that was his "day off".
His answer was: "The company is busy so. . . .can't be helped".
Unfortunately that mindset is everywhere here in Japan. It will be very difficult to change.
The company is always going to be busy lol
Those brave warrior who break free from this mindset is a rebel that called delinquent or yakuza
青鬼TV .
That's dumb. The company really doesn't care about their employees.. Why bother over working, specially if its unpaid.. Hére we call that kissing companys ass.. Next thing you know the companys las you off,.. All that hard work for nothing..
The company should hire more employees if they have shortage of workforce
Why on the earth should employees work even on Sunday just because of busyness of company?
"turns the light off at 10pm, to force the employees to leave"
Lol
But like 10pm is so late to begin with..
They continue to work anyway using flash light
@@stefamarz 🤣🤣
@@stefamarz as long as they don't turn the lights back on and they've been using fleshlights... Can't have that in orderly Japanese office culture.
I’m working at a japanese company, so far it’s all great and thankfully they don’t push us to work all the time. We work 9 hrs a day. They’re quite perfectionist and the work pace is fast but i enjoy it since i actually love what i’m doing😁 altho when it comes to monthly report meeting it’d take up to 2-3 hrs.. glad we’re doing work from home rn so i can do house chores while listening to the meeting blasting thru the speaker lol
I am one of your subbies on UA-cam and I really enjoy your videos.
Yeah I see Naruto as the hokage coming home very late to see his family :(
That's it then. No enemy can kill him but die of overwork instead 😂
Don’t forget they have Chakra.
😂😂😂
Shadow clone jutsu lol 😂
Bro Naruto just asking to get cuckold by the neighbor smh
What a sad way to live. I have never met a people so rich yet so poor.
Go Review
Agreed, what’s the point of a lucrative career if you can’t enjoy life w/ your spouse and pick your kids up from ball practice?
@@naveygill1793 That's why nowadays they don't even married. Too busy working no time for family!
You never met guys in high finance...? This is literally every front office job on Wall Street.
It's the same everywhere around the world. High pressure and stress for the high earning jobs. Even when you do become top of the top, it's a lot of responsibilities and it becomes even more stress with risks. Even if it is a small business and then you put your efforts into making it better and you will eventually see using more time to gain benefits in growth for the business. Humans are just greedy, but in a good way. We are just explorative creatures. Greed is a way of capturing more than necessary and ignoring if it was right or wrong. All these align with existing psyches we all have potential to tap into from our minds within.
@@Aaron-bh5cp wall street worker are not rich, in fact most of their client are richer than them
I've been working in Japan for 2 years, I almost never did overtime, but at the same time all the 8 hours per day I'm engaged in work. Back in my country I worked 9-10 hours, but I'd spend 3 hours talking to colleagues, chilling or playing tennis
I've worked with renowned companies before and they don't really pay overtime. With that said, I do understand if other workers feel ashamed that they be the first one to leave the office. Me, I don't care. I leave the office as soon as I finish my shift. That has helped me a lot to organize my work so I can finish it on time and my boss doesn't complain that my work isn't done yet.
My brother literally came back to our native country because he was only able to get sleep for 4-5 hours. He was working in sony
From Japan?
@@SaiKiran-en2zm yes
@@SYBMSBSHARMAYASH Do they have holiday on Sunday
@@SaiKiran-en2zm yes only islamic nations don't have cause it is considered first day of the week in their religion
@@SYBMSBSHARMAYASH well shall I guess
Uvr brother engineering rght bro
they work long hours but it doesn’t mean they work efficiently - Says me, a japan native
True i seen many people pretending only to work
I'm Japanese. Thank you.
In Japan, there are lot of younger thinking "We LOSE if we work", in Japanese,｢働いたら負け｣.
What can we do for Japanese economy?
Please give us some advices.
You work to earn money and spend it all on day offs or holidays. There's no point in working long hours without even enjoying your money just because your boss or your coworkers told you so. If you work from 8am to 5pm then leave at 5pm and enjoy life. Stop thinking about what society tells you to do. Instead, do what you makes you happy. That's all that matters! Japanese work ethics is my inspiration and it pains me to see Japan this way. Watashi wa hontoni nihon ga daisukidesu! So please take care of yourselves fellow human beings!
It would be a waste to have all of the money being waste way if you dont do anything (and u have enought money after rent, retirement money, etc.). Especally if u dont develop a hobby or enjoy something that you are eyeing for awhile or have an interest in. (which i mean in i agree with the person who said to enjoy the money u earned.) Also, I feel like its a waste of money on rent on a place that u spend every little time in (especally if you like to be there longer) and on places/whatever the topic it is u wish u dont want to be/spend on (and others are insisting that you should be there with them, even though it not a must in your mind).
Rework your work hours system and society view about work, like must go home after your senior go home. This alone will raise up happiness and hope.
This is why Nanamin left his job and returned to the jujutsu world
Japan is still a feudal country. Making employees stay at the office is fundamentally not about productivity but demonstrating loyalty to the company. Allowing employees to have time and energy outside the office would risk them forming social attachments outside of work. This system is fundamentally a system of feudalism where the key resource being monopolized is no longer land but time.
After many years working like this, the employee will no longer have an identity outside the company. The company will own him for life. When it comes time to break laws or keep secrets, these employees can be counted on.
This is simply a modern version of serfdom.
Jeffery Zhang thanks for the insight, interesting!
Man, you are a fucking genius. Great analyze
Interesting. People tend to forget, although Japan is a modern, industrialized nation with an advanced economy, the modernization didnt happen until 1868 during the Meiji era. Whereas Europeans at this time were already over 400-500 years out of the medieval, feudal era. That being said, it wasnt too long ago when Japan used to be a feudal, rural country.
@@drbs2850 You're correct, between feudalism and modernity, Europe had the renaissance and the enlightenment in between. Japan jumped from feudalism directly to modernism, while technology in the country have advanced dramatically over a short time, the culture haven't changed as quickly. Japan still maintains the old hierarchical, collective mentality that survived from feudalism.
Azarello No, this is not the reason why Japan has such advantages. A "modern serfdom" would never directly contribute to this situation. You have to figure out the logic here.
And they wonder why their population is declining.
Because they have no time for sex
@Ãñky .çhåléō They ain't got oil supply so they can be lazy.
Hentai 😂
@@salmabano3685 Pretty sure they're having sex. The real issue is that young people can't afford to have kids in HCOL areas like Tokyo. This issue is also very real here in the US.
@@salmabano3685 shut up because they has problem about old population
Loyalty and pride!
I am Japanese and a salaryman. The problem of overwork is more serious than reported. Premium Friday is no longer heard of.
Twenty years ago, 100-hour overtime was the norm. The fact that deaths from overwork have not decreased, even though the number of hours worked is far less now than it was then, cannot simply be measured by working hours alone.
Thanks God..i live in Indonesian...
@@byanthanos7114You said that like indonesian company praise and gave employee what they deserve...
But the truth is it isnt...
Majority of every company mindset in the world was and until now is pay minimum for best performance...
Sad kid like you dont even know what japan gov gave for their workers, better life, more amenities, better food, etc...
So as long as they upping their life standarts to match with the works of their people, i say its worth it...
Unlike in your country where workers eat borax and formaline...
@@BJID yes but happy in work is not depend on salary maybe that's the one but living cozy and friendly that's important
i'm a japanese living in Europe.
i guess i never come back to my country. i'm so happy to be able to work here . i'm getting used to the european lifestyle and to sum it up, it's amazing. i can't explain, i'm just happier to be here than in Japan. that's all. in terms of living, Japan is not your best option but for just tourism, Japan is a great choice
Dude respect your country man........... it's in crisis......it is the people who need to change that kind of lifestyle......if you're running away what is the use.......???
@@rexracer2852 it's his life, so what's wrong in settling in a better country that serves better, a single individual can't change the corrupt system, pollution, poverty etc in his her own country. If someone wants to change they are killed and murdered in his own country.
@@mubaraking786 Only if someone is Lelouch vi Britanania then hey there's a chance XD
@@rexracer2852 would u want to live in a country where u feel sad and depressed? or a country that grants you happiness and contentment? you decide for yourself. and he is right europe is so many times better than japan when it comes to work life balance
教えて欲しいんですけど、何がそこまで違いました？仕事第一ではない人生観、それに付随する時間の使い方って感じでしょうか。
A random person: gosh my life is so difficult
Japanese worker: hold my salary
Hold my sushi
*A random person* : but there's nothing
*Japanese worker* : exactly
Their overwork is unpaid tho
Japanese worker: I am busy...
I have always been the one to leave at 4:30 on the dot as did most people But when occasionally stay over, I noticed that my co-workers also stayed a little over like they were waiting for me.
The mentality of not wanting to stand out is in the US too or maybe they like walking to the subway with me 🤷🏾♀️
The Japanese weakly anime and manga chapter releases were simply out of this world when I was a teenager 17 years ago. Even if there was no new content to animate they would make their own plots and side stories to keep it on the air. Truly astonishing hard work regimen.
Please value your time.. including family time and your rest time..
Bima Santoso very true!
True
Thank you.
Then they should be ready to get fired, buddy.
They don't care about their family, family values are dead in Japan
Disclaimer: This video is not for Indians😂😂
Hardik bhai ek bar apne yaha k bpo's me jake dekh...
@@sureshshingare8376 bro how can a person be brainless and work continuously for 8-9 hours at the same time? I myself is an Ex-bpo employee, I was pursuing MBA that time..some of my colleagues were students of CA & CS...specifically talking about my team we had 70-80% engineers from the finest institutions..and yet people still think that we are nothing but losers...and btw not all process requires a personnel to just press enter key and consider the job done...and also don't force me to drag in the economic importance of this sector..so just think about it my brother!!!
Indian Corporate lawyer here, I work in my law firm for around 80 hours per week, Sunday holidays only.
I earn good amount of money tho so its all good.
@@vipinchauhan1509 Bhai aap apni jagah bilkul sahi ho even I m a CA student aur mujhe malum hai ki kitna sangarsh hai isme.
Par aap khud socho ki hum me aur
Dusre developed countries me itna difference kyu hai.
Japan to humse bhi piche tha kyu aaj vo itna saksham hai aur kyu hum itne piche hai.
Isiliye mai keh rha tha ki humari aur unki soch mai farak hai.
Hum apne liye sochte hai aur vo desh k liye sochte hai.
@@hardikjain8986 hamare Rajneta/Mantri, Rajniti aur Government System, Education System British kaal ke hai isliye
Thank you very much for the feedback. The Monarc Class understood it.
I listen these videos for improving my English, 😂 thanks! ❤
Me too
Me too, 😅.
I don't understand the point of staying long in the office just to pretend like you're working hard. Like the video says, the Japanese just waste more of their life at the office while not even being more productive. This is really a problem with Asian cultures where appearances seem to be more important than actual competence or productivity. In Europe people tend to just want to get their work done as quickly as possible so they can leave in time to do something for themselves. It's not healthy for your life to be nothing but work. Even medieval peasants had better working conditions than these.
Japan working hard are just appearances to impress other countries. Constant overtime only causes mental fatigue, and eventually leading to unproductivity. It's all bullshit, Japanese companies don't allow you to leave even if you are already done. That's why despite their hard working image they are economically high in debt.
www.tofugu.com/japan/japanese-work-ethic/
soranews24.com/2015/02/10/despite-their-hardworking-image-are-the-japanese-really-just-as-lazy-as-the-rest-of-us/
I’m an Asian American but it is true, Asia is big on having a facade. It doesn’t matter if you’re rich or poor, it’s all about creating an illusion to other people.
yeah but this is the reality of Japan
Same thing in Chinese company. I usually finished my work at around 3.30pm, but are forced to stay until 6.30pm. Most other workers even stayed until 8.30pm, but I left the office at 6.30pm sharp.
Not that it's a problem, but I can't even surf the Internet on my own spare time, because the boss office is behind my cubicle, and he said he don't like seeing me surfing the Internet for random stuff even though there's no work to be done.
Just look at toyota, sony and other japanese companies
I worked in Japan for only a year. One day i was brought to the hospital due to chest pain and stress which i have never experienced before prior to working there. Japan is a really nice place but working there will consume your life faster than you think.
You can live longer, but can you live happier?
it's surprising they still manage to live for such a long time. I wonder how much more would they last if they didn't lived so stressfully then
Катерина Лилов
Look at the people from Okinawa. Much much slower pace of life and there the longest living people on earth.
But they live longer than wherever you from.
People there eat healthy and have healthy routines which helpd them to work and survive for long.. Japanese people are fit and healthy in compared to others
Edit :- people are happy because they are used to it
so touching for an excellent video
I salute to these japanese for their hardwork and talent...because of their ambition we are getting one of the finest technology and quality product throughout the world❤🔥
gosh, in Australia everyone gets one full months vacation and it's unheard of that an Aussie would not use the full 100% of the month.
Only rich bogans get that, not everyone in Australia is rich.
d sar. Everybody in Australia gets one full months annual leave no matter what your job is. The Employer must pay for it by law. It doesn't matter how rich or poor you are as it's the law. Only the Police, Ambulance and Fire Brigade workers get 3 months annual leave because of the high stress.
John O'Kane I get 35 holidays an year in India . And I can barely use them .
Wow, that is so different than the U.S.
Add on top of that Australia just increased the minimum wage which was already really high
In Japan, traditionally we have to be super respectful toward any people who is older than you. It makes younger workers feel guilty to go home earlier than the those who are older. And also I personally think that generally Japanese business men tend to consider that working longer is considered a virtue. That’s why I decided to work in a private-private venture anyhow. Peace from Japan :)
*public-private venture
Actually I totally agree with u many Japanese will consider working longer is as a virtue. But what I think is this kind of virtue is to show off to others, or the work really need cost so long time, meanwhile, what I worried about it is that working so long time is terribly to the healthy, and can’t keeping going.
I don't think it is true to think that working long hours are the virtues. Working long hours shows your dedication or loyalty to the company.
上智大学国際教養学部 Thanks for your information, Are you a Japanese?
they have to stop this *respektful* culture and BE NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS.
Work and quality of products and services is our true honor
I live in Japan.
I’ve been living here since September 2016 and yes, it’s true.
Work conditions are really though here and people don’t complain about it because they don’t know anything else.
For example if you get sick and you have to be off then you are forced to use your payed holiday or unpaid holiday.
It’s kind of your fault when you get sick.
That’s how they see it.
“Life is meant to be enjoyed. Work Hard, and enjoy even harder.”
just like enojoy our pain .....don't become victum of pain......
Long hours and low rate of productivity... That explains.
Wtf is the point of working long hours if productivity is low lol
Yup its true
@@lugh5210 u can see on all over research
Bt still very much more than ours lol their less youth working population is working smartly and r smartly educated using their potential in a right direction while our lazy, uneducated or less educated, unemployed, creating mess on the name of religion just wasting so much time of country type huge youth population is nothing bt just a burden on our country lol. We r very much far away and nowhere related to the word *Workaholic* which our youth population need to be for the sake of country's goodness and nt for personal greed.
The video uses a common measure of productivity as "GDP per hour worked", so it's possible that the Japanese produce just as much as other workers (on a daily basis) but because their culture requires them to stay in the office (to be seen to be working hard) this ironically decreases their productivity!
Japan is one of the country looked onto for six sigma fundamentals with Total quality system in the world of manufacturing. Hope they should implement this in people management as well.
3:07
Whats the name of this place?
'At least 5 days' vacation a year'?????.....here i thought my 4-week vacay is too short 🤣🤣
4-week is a real blessing. Please enjoy it
In my country it's 15days, or 17 days annual leave if u are a manager (including sick leave)...i know that's crazy. And stupid. But that's the reality...if u complain to much it's easy for a company to replace u with millions workers waiting for opportunities out there in asia.
@@herchannel1355 which country u from?.
They're not working hard enough, cuz muh anime seasons keep getting delayed.
Schrödinger's Cat Well, if the animators weren't paid literal pennies, maybe things would change a little. Also, I think most studios need more time to release their shows. It really shows.
Because of too much piracy and illegal downloads and streaming sites and fake merchandise. But thats none of my business!
budjet problem
Schrödinger's Cat lol! Thanks for the Monday morning laugh before work! 😂
Yeah !! Oh dragon ball !! Where r u ? 😢
Don't mess with tradition, the Japanese are highly productive and they take pride in it.
No wonder there so much anime based around high school. High school probably like heaven in some of these working conditions.
"Why does Japan work so hard?"
Answer: Because they work so hard.
That,s maybe kanye west answer
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小泉構文。
Thanks Cpt. Obvious
@@Mepuvio Haha Captain Obvious saves the day.
I am Japanese. Japan has the culture of "Teamwork", it can promote the performance of the team positively, but it sometimes makes individual responsibility unclear as a negative aspect. Employees sometimes cannot take paid days off without a guilty feeling because they cannot contribute to the team during the days off. I think this is what the Japanese feel generally.
The employees contribute druing days off. By resting druing days off, they become more productive and better later
Who made them feel guilty? Their boss?
I wouldn't call it teamwork. Your people love bunching up and doing what you're told to do.
don't call your nasty Kamikaze mentality a teamwork.
@@echo7984 Isn't guilt a feeling generated through just yourself? If their boss did it, I think it would be elevated to shaming.
Went to tokyo for the first time in 2017, and everytime I rode the subway I noticed how "robot-like" the Japanese were. Like they were just so focused to get to work 😅
@3:00 "requiring a rest period between the end of one day and the start of another" They have to require that?! that's crazy...
Didnt really explain why Japan works so hard. All this video said was that they do.
KingRat355 they did. It's not a very individualistic work culture.
Holy Guacamole If it's not individualistic then why is everyone in the subway looking at phones ignoring people around them? Why is no one having babies for the greater good? Maybe there's a different reason?
Krishna Mohan phones to respect the individuals time to decompress? Babies because they work too hard and don't have the work life balance
Holy Guacamole one could decompress better by talking to other people and sharing experiences. Phones only add more strain to the eyes after a long day at work. So that is not the reason. If they are working so hard why is the productivity so low? Maybe they are a society that values conformity. I dont know I'm just guessing. But definetely doesn't seem like just "company/country above individual"
unwarranted peer pressure and culture...are you not listening!!
Japan needs to decrease their work hours from 23 hours a day to 22 hours a day.
sandofarms 😂😂😂
u can go to the supermarket at 3am in the morning here bruh, everytime i walk in, the workers are so drowsy/sleepy/tired
Funny, but actually true - that's what the under the arm advertising agency Dentsu said after a young, overworked female employee threw herself off the roof, at midnight last Christmas Eve, after missing the last train . "OK, no more 70 hours overtime a month - now only 65 hours. Yay us!!!" www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/10/19/business/suicide-overworked-woman-24-prompts-ad-giant-dentsu-trim-overtime-hours/#.WxUjMpUh3mQ
Lmao
Lmao
Compare to another country They have a happy life guys, believe me.
Yes ! Imagine being born in fucking Haiti like me with no food no electricity ，no hospital, no good school. I would prefer be a Japanese and putting 20 hours a day and have food
Respect for their hardworking spirit!
Imagine if most of them becoming entrepreneurs in another country.
Maybe not.
@@AverageUsernames Ok
Entrepreneurs tend to have a rather independent spirit and ability to think outside the box. Reinterpret rules and "common wisdom". The Japanese have spent their whole lives obeying both spoken and unspoken rules. They make great technical workers most likely. But their entrepreneurial rate, for some real innovation, is probably much below the average
But on the other hand, if they can bring their newfound sense of "freedom" into their work life, then what you say might be really true
@@Urza26 i mean entrepreneurs like "they got to survive"...diamond is tested through pressure.
But yeah, i know how hard is to be entrepreneur while you're a perfectionist.
Working hard doesn't make u rich, working smart does
Own a money making entity and have someone else do the work for you
Incarus Ton That’s true
You have to achieve both.
Work hard is a kind of work smart
Erm, no, working hard and smart does, with luck. I have never seen any smart working people that is not a workaholic (don't count someone who was born on the finish line). They love their jobs though, some kind of obsession. But without luck, many of them failed. Man, especially in this pandemic
Damn it Japan don't die!
Yeah we need the Hentai! :(
Luis Alberto Pérez Nájera Damn man what did Japan do to you?😂😂
Luis Alberto Pérez Nájera o god dont start an ethnic cleansing on me again hitler. Im not ready yet.
We have chikara, Chakra
Trump will fix the rigged car deals. HAHAHAHAHAHA
We must work smart and hard according to the situation .
I love Japan and Japanese people for their ethics and principles... It's the only reason why I buy all of my things (table tennis, pens, sharpener) from Japan (yes, I know it cost 10X but worth every rupees I spent). I am little sad to know the suicide rate and anxiety and depression, they're going through... I wish I could be of some help to avoid them dying from overwork... I know there are many other people who wish to help Japanese people to flourish... I wish a better future and healthy life for them...
Support your own country and local business instead!
I have been to Japan several times and I can say without a doubt that Japanese people are the most depressed people I have ever seen. They are all so polite, but they are all so depressed. I assumed it was because of factors such as Economy, loosing jobs to China, South Korea, the issue with North Korea, Tsunami, etc...
"Company as a whole rather than individuals "
See kids..capitalism and communism can co exist peacefully
Corporate communism lmao
Sorry You should mean socialism not communism
Actually.. that's the essence of collective society, which is very common in Asia
@@zeousontuan8101 Why?
Except that lazy people will take advantage of that and leave the burden of work to only a few individuals.
Is there an update to the situation? Did it get better, stay the same or become worse?
worse, just google it
I have been in Japan at least every January on business since 2008. And I always take one week to visit another place in this beautiful country. They are doing a lot of smoking breaks and chat breaks and sleeping breaks, but I can't say that they are not productive. And they have a lot of time playing videogames or reading Mangas. Manga cafés and Game Centers are always full of pupils or students in the morning and business men in the afternoon.
I want to hear it from a Japanese perspective. Not some same old Western news trying to sell outdated stereotypes.
Outdated? Numbers are very clear! Suicide rate in Japan is really clear! American and Japanese societies produce overworking depressed people, serial killers, lack of human relations, are clearly sick societies. Europe it's paradise, now I understand it. We had strong labour movement and this saved our inner humanity that in these two countries is lost!
@Risa Fontaine Really? Why do you say that? What is fantastic in Japan? High suicide rate? Few human contacts is a value? Please, learn how to live. Europe is the best place in the world right now. Also Canada not bad.
Also Russia is shit.
@@MrOssyMoro u r right
@@MrOssyMoro are you from Eu.
I worked for a Japan co for yrs
They work sloooooowly and impress by being present till late
They are also fans of making simple things massively complex to expand the work
why they just waste their precious time like that................?
Amen, brother.
I am Japanese and used to live in the US. I don’t think Japanese living in Japan and work in Japanese companies do not work hard. They stay in work place for a long time, but the amount of work is not a lot. Also Japanese company does not want to spend on better systems to improve efficiency and accuracy, which is one of factors. And some Japanese think that staying in office for long hours means hard work.
Thanks
They are not actually working all those hours. They just cannot, or will not, leave until the boss goes homes.
summerrr1 yes that is right
summerrr1 thats why I visit the comment section to know more.
Even we dont leave until the boss leaves.
Most of them string 3 hours of work into 12
That's weird work ethic.
Why?
It's a waste of life time.
Everybody has LIMITED time.
If employees respect the work hours, the boss should respect his/her employees' life too.
They read Harry Potter with a fake book cover disguised as "Business English Textbook" for 3 hours until the boss goes home.
It's called modern day slavery.
Japan ranks 22nd in the world in hours worked per annum. 22nd!
Gordon Graham
Naah mate 😂 not accurate.
light worker,www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/nationalities-that-work-the-longest-hours/
Christopher Wall So true from Japan.
Susumu Kojima there are 127,000,000 separate truths from Japan
I'm rethinking my dream of working in japan 😭
It's deep rooted in the culture so it should be tackled on a cultural basis
I'm working in a japanese company. Even in 2020 this problem has not been fixed. The work environment is by far the most toxic in my 10 years of work experience. They do their best to not pay you overtime ( by giving you paid leave time which you get heckled if you use it). And if you leave on time, everybody will hate you like you did them dirty and every end of month you get yelled at by your uppers ( i once got yelled by the CEO of the company lol ). After 3 years of shit I kinda tuned out everything related to work. If you want to survive in japan, don't give a damn about your work ( in the end, everything you did at the company isnt worth shit to you ). Focus on yourself, Focus on improving your skills.
Are you still working there?
@@annabasri3197 Yeah, Because the pay at the place is higher than the market standards for my profession. So, yeah. I'm in it for the money at this point. When just coming to Japan, I was very motivated and hard-working but nowadays I'm happy as long as I'm paid.
@@balu2281 wow, you are so great. Hope you always healthy and happy for this new year. God bless you. 👍
@@annabasri3197 Thank you. Happy new year to you too.
@@balu2281 hey..of you have free time hope you can visit my homeland Indonesia 🇲🇨. Just little bit enjoying life here. ;)
Hi,I’m Japanese.
Simply put,even if you do your best,there is little reward because the higher income you earn, the higher income tax you must pay except for the civil servants 🙃That’s remarkable in Japan 🇯🇵. That’s why some elites move to foreign countriesʅ（◞‿◟）ʃ
I want to move to Japan though 😂 I love everything about Japan but the work culture is scary.
I love everything about Japan culture very much.......♥
What is the percentage of the income tax?
56% for the top band, which is huge.
@@xx-----------xx873 55%? WTF?
Most of overworking problems in Japan usually happen with workers with mid-skills (unfortunately, most workers are mid-skilled...)
If one has low skill / no skill, one will become part timer, hence no overworking problems (but money problem...)
If one is highly-skilled workers, he has more flexibility in choosing his employer, hence no overworking problem
I studied in Japan and we had a group meetinf until 4-5am in the morning, and 8am we had class. So those few hours in between for you to basically go back home, shower, and come back to campus for another day 🙃😅 ¹¹¹¹²¹
So sad