One of the only times Saab was ever featured on Top Gear and a pretty good summary of what its like to own a Saab. You can't understand why they're so good until you've driven one.
100% true. ZERO TO 60 MPH is only marketing for awd cars. Mid range acceleration 50-70 mph punch tell us many things. Saab 9000 Aero smoked 5 cars 50-70 mph : Lamborghini Diablo Lotus Esprit BMW M3 Aston Martin DB7 Porsche 928 GTS. Source : Autocar Magazine UK. Volvo 850R smoked 5 cars 50-70 mph : Ferrari Testarossa Ferrari F355 Porsche 911 Turbo Toyota Supra Turbo Nissan Skyline R33 Source : Automovil Magazine Spain. Link : Volvo 850R faster than 2 Ferraris. Link 2 : Saab 9000 Aero as seen from a Diablo. 100% Real 2nd gear test. No matter the opponents. Saab and Volvo had explosive mid range acceleration. Those machines were ready to jump. I am a Mechanic since 1992
Was into Subarus for 25 years (am 52 now, still got 4 of them haha) - and 2 years ago I purchased a '94 855T5 (226HP) and a '02 9-5 aero (250HP). These are machines that were designed and built by engineers, not accountants...
I had a 9000Aero I was slightly disappointing because it was nowhere near as quick as the Tuned 9000CS Turbo I had before it. That car didn't just smoke fast cars in the mid range it could stay ahead until it ran out of steam at about 170mph
Just checked the MOT on that 95 driven by Jeremy, It’s still alive and well! A 17 year old motor with over a 100k miles and a current MOT! Wonder how many modern cars would survive almost 20 years!
@@terminal-velocity111 shame Gumtree don't archive adverts or I'd send a link. It's running about 440bhp now. Was for sale for around £3500 and yeah they knew it was the top gear car, had some screenshots of it in action on the ad. There's a Facebook group called 'Saab nuts', it's been put on there by the new owner :)
@@terminal-velocity111 I'm saabless at the mo, but probably not for long. Had 8 so far I think, mostly 9-5's. Can't beat them! It looked in pretty good shape for the age, couldn't see any rust etc. Been looked after well by the looks.
Having owned saabs for over a decade.....the night panel is such an underrated extra touch of unnecessary class and practical gratification, relaxation, and enjoyment. Once you use it you always want it on every other car you drive.
Wonderful cars, very comfortable, ergonomic, practical (especially in wagon form), and easily tunable to over 300 hp. Plus all those quirky thoughtful details like double sunvisors, cooled glove box, central ignition, eggcrate air vents, vented seats, ticket holder, etc etc etc. It's always difficult to understand the point of Saabs on a short test drive; these are cars that you love after spending some time with them. Nothing better than a Saab for slogging through a narrow 2-lane road at night in poor visibility for a couple hundred miles.
@BigBlockRed must suck being such a diehard fan of other brand you go to comment sections full of people who like them, just to say they're shit. I'll keep enjoying my comfortable ride and great seats thanks.
Who said Saabs were better than Ferraris? I mentioned thoughtful, innovative features, ergonomics, and attention to details more than outright sportiness. FYI, I also own an E46 coupe and a Porsche 996 (both terrific cars to drive) and the 9-5 has plenty of advantages over the two. Can it outhandle them? Of course not. But honestly, if I had to only keep 1 car out of those three, I'd probably choose the Saab. And if you don't "get" Saabs or like them, that's totally fine, everyone's entitled to their opinion and I respect that. But calling it a "crap company" only demonstrates you have a lot to learn about the complexity and intricacies of car engineering, design, and manufacturing. It's not just about how fast you can go around a corner...
@BigBlockRed While I won't disagree with you about the superb handling of BMWs, nor their build quality, I do think you're selling Saabs short. I own a 2005 9-3 Sport Saloon and it puts out 220HP and 360Nm of torque. Despite being FWD, it's an absolute blast to drive and I love it. I think the biggest problem is that people don't push them. I've pushed my car so hard on occasions, I've been able to smell the tyres from inside the car when I park up. On the right tyres, it's incredibly grippy, and can take corners surprisingly quickly; and its power and torque allows it to leave corners pretty fast too. I've no experience with the 9-5, but from what I gather although they're more powerful than a 9-3, the 9-3 has the edge on handling and overall sporty driving. What also needs to be mentioned is their reliability. My car is on 163,000 miles and is still going strong with no major issues whatsoever; I bought it three years ago at 91,000 miles. Now I could go on about how a BMW 3-Series I saw was in for a replacement timing chain after just 60,000 miles; owned by an old man who doesn't take it above 2,500 RPM, but that's a non-issue because BMWs are also reliable, and every car manufacturer has made lemons; Saab is no different.
I was saving for a BMW 335i with a target of around £8000, but grew tired of my savings being eaten away by general life expenses. So I bought one of these "for now" for £1300 with the aim to trickle save for the BMW. Now I have the Saab I have no interest in saving for another car. I'd rather put my money into the Saab, absolutely love it😍😍
@@medler2110 Great aren't they? I'm not saying if someone offered me a BMW 335i I wouldn't consider it..but apart from the performance it would feel like a downgrade. much less space etc. Plus from what I've seen I could reach some serious power with forged internals and a bigger turbo etc, so then I'll have the performance I desire but with the practicality and comfort. Plus I've always liked cars which aren't too common or "in fashion"
Take care of your Saab, those cars are soon gone because people treat them as any other car. Saabs have a different soul and feel which doesn't really is possible to describe. As an owner to a 2008 9-3, I really do love it and will always do
I drive a saab 9-3 2.0t from 2002, and it's the best car ever made. If you've never driven a saab, it's very hard to imagine the pleasure you get when you drive it.
My dad drove me home from the hospital I was born at in his Saab. As I grew up, his car was a part of my life. I couldn’t stop pushing the button on that cool cup holder and watching it fold in and out. I didn’t know much about cars back then, and I still don’t, but at 27, I sure as hell know they were incredibly unique and were damn well engineered cars.
There's this weird thing about Saabs. If you don't like/understand them, a quick test drive isn't going to change your mind. However, live with a Saab for a few months and you start to get it. They are extremely well engineered and everything is propely designed. You can tell someone actually put their mind to it.
@@lukiux8406 Not really. It's from Isuzu and has problems with cylinder liners sinking. Although I guess any still running have either been fixed or never had that problem to start with.
Hey ! As you're swedish and you didn't post your message too long ago, are classic 900s (turbo 16 and turbo 16s), especially convertibles, cheap too ? 'Cause in the rest of europe (personally I'm french), they raised sooo much in value.
@@PierreColombo900 Hi, i'd say that theyre cheaper in sweden but i would'nt call them cheap. I bought my Saab 9-5 2005 Vector for 5000sek (ca 480 euros). I'd say that The Saab 900 convertible starts at ca 50 000sek with T8/T16 being more expensive.
@@trolllololololo Hey, thanks for the answer ! Unbeatable price for your 9-5 haha ! So that's less than 5k €, well if you want to laugh a bit then : www.leparking.fr/voiture-occasion/#!/voiture-occasion/Saab-900.html%3Fid_modele%3D3433%26id_energie%3D3%26id_motorisation%3D16%26id_boite%3D2%26slider_millesime%3D1920%7C1993 The worst thing is, that most of them are just 900 S', and a T16 S in good condition is simply unfindable
Clarkson always loved SAAB deep down but was too British to admit it. Especially on camera. Can't wait to head out tomorrow morning in my 300hp '03 9-3 SS. Lol
Beyond doubt the best value used car and a luxo at that. Beautifully and thoughtfully built. Saab is dearly missed and as a Benz owner I really wish they'd make a comeback not as some zombie Chinese electro box. Saab deserved better. Get in a 9-5, 9-3, 9000, OG900 and see for yourself...
Proud owner of a 2004 Espresso Black Aero, just like the one on the video. It laughs in the face of danger. Phenomenal overtaking acceleration, and hell, beyond that! What a wicked machine. A strong recommendation, an awesome daily. Sophisticated and calm at first glance but a terrifying, sensational experience when you wake the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries turbocharger up. What a masterpiece, by a manufacturer strugglung to survive. SAAB
Good old early days of Top Gear, Clarkson looks really happy here. Like it was the sweet spot, before it went nuts in popularity and the show became a parody of itself
On my second Saab now. Although technically third, as i had access to another one. Jezza is right. People don't know what is special about them, until they actually get in a Saab. I wouldn't have anything else now if I am honest. And it will be a real shame when there are no more of them about.
@@tredfxman My old 04' 9-5 does 40HP less than yours, but have 80Nm more. Gotta love sleepers. Btw, nice name. Also look up Boba Golf, I laugh at how insane that car is, truly a monster.
As someone who owns not just one but two Saabs I can say that Saab is the nicest all around daily driver you can have. It's comfortable, economical, and luxurious without being flashy enough to draw attention of thieves, vandals, and law enforcement.
I drive a 9-3. Love it. It's my second one. I got rear-ended in my last one... able to drive away to a safe place. Nothing other than dented boot under the rear bumper and a "crease" in both rear pillars. All lights perfect. The VW Golf that hit me was literally one giant mess of bits and parts. Morale of the story.... Buy a used SAAB. Nothing safer, nothing more enjoyable to drive, nothing with seats like SAAB. The auto is just divine. Probably the best cars ever. (Dying to try a 900, just to see?) I've had quite a few cars. Never changing from SAAB now
Before 2010 I was a Citroen driver, hooked on Xantia's, but gave mine to my son, who needed a good motor and bought a Saab 9.5 2.0 T 2004. First impression when driving in the city; unpleasant and bumpy GM (Opel Omega/Vauxhall Vectra) product. Instantly felt sorry for not buying a Citroen C5 instead. Untill I got her on the motorway. A revelation... The last time I felt like that when driving was in 1979 when I had an Alfa Guilia 2000 Berlina, but this was even faster, much more comfortable, quieter and better planted on the road. Drove her ''The Grey Goddess'' for eight years and 70.000 km before swopping her in for a 2009 2.3 T Aero; ''The Beast''.
I bought my first Saab in 1989..driven them ever since..I've had two c900, three 9000cse and currently own 9-5 Areo, which I've had for 13 yrs and will never part with, and a 9-3 estate as my daily drive...
The answer to "why do these people buy Saab" is very easy : it was because it was a Saab ! There were cars, and there were Saab... The first car I ever bought was a 900 turbo 16 S-line, it was more than 20 years ago, I never found anything like that car since then.
After owning half a dozen NG9-3's, an 89 SPG and an 01 Viggen, there is definitely something very cool about them. Hilariously quick in all instances, with the st1 SPG and st3 Viggen downright brutal. SAAB was awesome
I really miss the Saab brand ,but the Top gear team from that period must bee the best that have ever been made...Thank you for sharing these fantastic clips of the real Top Gear...Great people and great show...please come back
the absolute best value ever in a used car. I have 3, and have had 4 others in the last 10 years. For around $3000 you can drive the daylights out of a 9-5 aero for years with only minimal maintenance. I typical spend about $165 a year in CPSenors, the odd hose, and oil changes (get a new DIcassette with lifetime warranty because every 2 or 3rd time you exceed 130mph you will fry it). A stage1 9-5 aero will beat 75%+ of the vehicles on the highway.
The SAAB-9000 Aero (1993-1996) was a fullminant cars. The engine-managment was 10-15 forwards to the rest the another cars-manufactorys. The trionic-engine-proxys of the saab was own on the world. A many technic-facts: 2,3l-4 Zyl. , 16 Valve, 350 Newtometer by 1.900 turns, liga, came chain, Mitschubischi -Turbo-ceramic water intercooler, front-loader = 1,1 - 1,6 pressure/Bar, 225 PS/HP, Sprint-Speed, 0-100 hk: 5,9 sec, highest speed in hk: 250 sealed off. Sprit wastage: 8,5-9,5 Liter on 100 kilometer. The security pagets is high-optimal. For a new prise from 46.500 Euro in the year 1993 was the Saab a really cheap care.
They absolutely were great cars in that era. On top of you what you've mentioned, the interior was also great and looked awesome! Practically with the lift back boot and plenty of room for passengers. 9000 was the beginning of the 9-5 Aero 🙂
I love Saab's. They were cool, interesting, different, quirky and unique when I was growing up. I miss Saab, they were just on another level and I liked that.
I owned a 03' 95 Aero Turbo, which was probably the most powerful and comfortable car I have ever had - much better than today's Audis and BMW's etc. The interior feels like a spaceship - wide, quiet, and futuristic; leather was real and extremely comfortable; the acoustics was great and the sound system was supreme; acceleration on the motorway was breathtaking - 40-70mph was unbeatable. You feel like driving a fast Tank. Sadly the repair costs were too high from 6-7th tear onwards - rear light fault? £350 bespoke Saab chip; boot can't open? another £400 for a tiny computer chip; frequent engine faults warnings ...... I probably spent £2-3k a year on repairs over the last few years and the engineer blamed the limited numbers and said it really cost more than a Porche. Had to sell it in 2012 because we had only one garage. I might have kept it if we had more parking spaces. You can't find that leather quality these days unless in a RR!
Saab tech for 10 years now general tech. These cars are very underappreicated. Many records, the 9-5 was also the safest car in the world by 5 different agencies. 9-5 production of 04 so from 04-14ish was highest safety rating streak. It had a perfect score. Cars beat it out as the saftey requirements increased, still a very safe car regardless. The really old saabs a guy known as mr. Saab use to race 99s and roll them on purpose to show the strength of the roof. Then push it over keep driving maybe roll it again. Great marketing back then imo. Or the fact the stig of top gear was another racing legend that use to race saabs. Every saab cost more to produce than it was sold for. The first saab owner to take his car to 1 million miles got a new saab for free from saab and they kept the tradition going.
Throwing a Saab around a racetrack is like going shopping in a tractor. It's trying to do something that it's not designed for. That mid-range punch is what it was designed for and - as the gorilla stated - it does it better than anything else.
Saab 9-5 Turbo or even better the Aero 2.3L 4Cyl. B235R engines are HOT high performance and you can redline each gear for about 7.4 seconds to really push the engine as none of these driving tests we see don't even attempt to do them and see what the true time is from 0 - 60 or the quarter mile? The B235R has so much potential for tuning and performance in various stages to maximize horsepower turbo and having the fun and exhilarating driving experience! Even its older models being the 900 Turbo and Aero/SPG and 9000 series have the potential to its newer cousins!
Completely pointless redlining the B235R. The power curve drops away considerably before 6000rpm. Sure with B234 cams you can rev higher for good effect. But not a standard B235R, you're just straining the engine for no reason.
@timyorkpersonal9311 I guess you don't belong to a Saab Club like I was and yeah we had Pro-Am racers and mechanics to see and talked about among club members...
Im a Sea Captain, and Had my first Saab 2003, I love the car, I had Audi, Oldsmobiles Volvos, and just 3 months ago, I found a 9-3 Sport Combi 1.8t linear, got it from an old lady who passed away. Its like new in and outside, its a 2011. I have done a sandblaster underneath, and its painted with 2 comp Zink paint, plus wax and oil, and its tuned up from 150hk, to 200hk gasoline. Today its also treated by cheramic pro, to conserve the paint. Today 2023, I have a laugh at Audis, Mercedes, and wolkswagen, my car are faster then the most of the others, and its still looks more modern than most of the other cars. So dont talk shit about the best car ever made!!!
Why saab? Because it's a everlasting funmachine! My 9-5 aero is 20 years old with 265 000km or 165 000 miles and still running perfect and is a lot of fun to drive, and it's a real country-road-machine made for long-driving. I still love it. Sure, it's comes with issues, but 20 year? Which car, that old, with that mileage, doesn't? 😄😄👍👍👍saab will live forever..
Under steer like a 70’s - 80’s Audi Saloon , after visiting the Dentist in 2010 I bought a 93 , superb car, the far far better than its humble Vectra underpinnings , RIP SAAB
@@vinb3032 mines 54 reg and obviously they're different cars as they're 2 different models. Jus be good to see how the mid range compares on the motorways or A roads ..
I've got a 9-5 2.3T wagon and a 9-3 2.0t NG convertible with a stage 1 Noobtune map (=2.0 Aero power). My feeling is that the 9-5 will simply eat the 9-3 around motorway speeds. It's the torque, I guess. But on the back roads it's a different story!
@@tonyfisk8081 i do love the 9-5 areos tbf just a bit big for what i need plus the tax is steeper too aint it .. dont know if would eat the 9-3 though mid range would be closer than you think i reckon
I have a stage 1 Saab 95 aero brilliant car fast, solid and comfortable and has 280 bhp all for 2k pounds, get me another car with the same spec and Performance for the money? You’ll Never find one
@@trancebass2741 nah man, you can get decent ones for £2.5k - £3k mark now. They are so cheap for what you get and the value of them are still going down! (Much to my dismay). LSD as standard too. The 6 mps's have AWD, and there's a very active group of enthusiasts/modified community. The worst thing is the tax though, unless you get a 2006 model 6 it's the highest tax bracket! £540 a bloody year. Very cheap insurance balances it out though
P T hmmm I may have to start looking again then lol I fancy another weekend toy the Saab is so comfy though, yeah I have an 06 Saab 95 tax is 550 it’s disgusting but I pay it, anything I should look out for on the mazdas? Any common issues ? Thanks
@@trancebass2741 They're great cars, very underrated like the Saab. Not many people know what they are. Common issues are: -Make sure timing chain and vvt has been changed, these are prone to fail on these because they have a poor OEM tensioner. You can check for a bad timing chain on cold start up if you hear a loud rattle. -K04 Turbo seals don't hold up too well if oil isn't changed regularly, if there is smoke when car is idling then it's likely the turbo seals. -Also make sure they don't have a generic remap from some random tuning company. You can't just "up the boost" on these, you need to upgrade the high pressure fuel pump internals first to prevent zoom zoom boom as the stock can't produce enough pressure. There are plenty of reputable tuners from the states that you send your logs to (using an access port or versa tuner) and they send back a customised tune. Other than that they're pretty solid cars, granted the oil is changed frequently. If you're interested to learn more, you should join the MPS OC on facebook or the forums. God I feel like a car salesman haha
I bought a 2001 2.3t with 185 horsepower and an automatic transmission - so it won't eat Porsches (not that I'd want to…). It's pretty thirsty in town and the suspension drily passes on short bumps to the driver at low speeds. It has some small niggles (computer display has pixel faults, the ABS control unit is on its way out and something seems to go wrong with the A/C Control - which may cost around 1,000 € to have fixed by my tame mechanic) but it's been reliable, it's well equipped, I got it cheaply a year after the company went bankrupt - and it doesn't rust or age badly. Look at the W210 chassis Mercedes built at that time rotting away now - and the Audi A6 and BMW 5-Series of that vintage are really showing their age - whereas the SAAB looks timeless. Looking at today's offers of low mileage 9-5s, mine has hardly depreciated which makes driving it a bargain despite the repairs and fuel needed - so I'm a happy camper.
@@Financmajster You're right. But in Germany, everyone knows pretty exactly how old these are now whereas a Saab is always a bit of a wild card - partly because the models were produced very long, partly because it's a bit of an exotic brand...
@@Has7DCT mine is a 2.2 liter turbo diesel I haven't got much time driving it cuz i don't have a licence yet but in my thought the seats are comfy as f and reliability I'm not pretty sure yet mine has a few problems but I'm fixing them
I had a 2006 SAAB. Fast but the electric system was terrible. It cascaded with electric system failures. Replacement parts were sparse and expensive. The ride was mediocre. In the end, I gladly gave it away. Current owner parked it after a week and hasn't touched it since.
Even if he liked it, wasn't brave enough to say that directly. But if he thought it was bad, I'm sure he would've clearly point that out with his colourful vocabulary. That's a similar reasons why people pay more and get a Merc, BMW or an Audi instead of a Saab (pre 2007 parallel year models) imo
This is a joke, right? Audis are consistently towards the bottom of customer satisfaction surveys in most markets, and poor reliability is the major reason why. They are not well built at all.
@@themancuniancandidate2744 Do you have one? From my experience, the only thing to break has been the fuel door release, so definitely reliable. They are well built too. I'd be curious as to why you think they aren't.
@@tidierpenny I had an A4 turbodiesel, 2008 model. It was a company car, so it didn't cost me a bean every time it went wrong, but in the 2 years I had it (it was 6 months old when I acquired it), it needed an AC compressor, an airbag recall, a turbo, a driver's seat motor, and the less said about the fecking alarm system the better. Also, Audi are consistently low scoring in JD Power surveys, and here in Australia VW Audi products consistently score low in customer satisfaction ratings
Would not have bought anything else but my SAAB 9-3 if I had to choose again. It is my good reliable, strong and agile buddy. Just love the brand, even though it is defunct.
Well it's not a track car, it was built to be safe. I'm sure if The Stig would have taken a couple more laps it would have been higher up the charts. His run did NOT look smooth.
One of the only times Saab was ever featured on Top Gear and a pretty good summary of what its like to own a Saab. You can't understand why they're so good until you've driven one.
Im not suprised you're here actually
@@tanker2000 🙈
100% true.
ZERO TO 60 MPH is only marketing for awd cars.
Mid range acceleration
50-70 mph punch
tell us many things.
Saab 9000 Aero smoked 5 cars 50-70 mph :
Lamborghini Diablo
Lotus Esprit
BMW M3
Aston Martin DB7
Porsche 928 GTS.
Source : Autocar Magazine UK.
Volvo 850R smoked 5
cars 50-70 mph :
Ferrari Testarossa
Ferrari F355
Porsche 911 Turbo
Toyota Supra Turbo
Nissan Skyline R33
Source :
Automovil Magazine Spain.
Link : Volvo 850R faster than 2 Ferraris.
Link 2 : Saab 9000 Aero as seen from a Diablo.
100% Real 2nd gear
test.
No matter the opponents.
Saab and Volvo had
explosive mid range acceleration.
Those machines were ready to jump.
I am a Mechanic since 1992
love swedish cars
Damn it beat the JDM legends and made old man Enzo furious! Amazing!
I didn't know Saab was smoking the competition 🔥
Was into Subarus for 25 years (am 52 now, still got 4 of them haha) - and 2 years ago I purchased a '94 855T5 (226HP) and a '02 9-5 aero (250HP).
These are machines that were designed and built by engineers, not accountants...
I had a 9000Aero I was slightly disappointing because it was nowhere near as quick as the Tuned 9000CS Turbo I had before it.
That car didn't just smoke fast cars in the mid range it could stay ahead until it ran out of steam at about 170mph
Just checked the MOT on that 95 driven by Jeremy, It’s still alive and well! A 17 year old motor with over a 100k miles and a current MOT! Wonder how many modern cars would survive almost 20 years!
It was for sale about 4 days ago. Not sure where you live, but was on Gumtree in the UK.
arsenalfan4life1993, wow, what did the advert say? Did they know it was the car from Top Gear? I live in Edinburgh, I’d have bought it.
@@terminal-velocity111 shame Gumtree don't archive adverts or I'd send a link. It's running about 440bhp now. Was for sale for around £3500 and yeah they knew it was the top gear car, had some screenshots of it in action on the ad. There's a Facebook group called 'Saab nuts', it's been put on there by the new owner :)
arsenalfan4life1993, amazing! That car was the reason why I’ve owned them for 17 years. Sounds like it’s a beast at 400 bhp. How was the condition?
@@terminal-velocity111 I'm saabless at the mo, but probably not for long. Had 8 so far I think, mostly 9-5's. Can't beat them! It looked in pretty good shape for the age, couldn't see any rust etc. Been looked after well by the looks.
Having owned saabs for over a decade.....the night panel is such an underrated extra touch of unnecessary class and practical gratification, relaxation, and enjoyment. Once you use it you always want it on every other car you drive.
Wonderful cars, very comfortable, ergonomic, practical (especially in wagon form), and easily tunable to over 300 hp. Plus all those quirky thoughtful details like double sunvisors, cooled glove box, central ignition, eggcrate air vents, vented seats, ticket holder, etc etc etc. It's always difficult to understand the point of Saabs on a short test drive; these are cars that you love after spending some time with them. Nothing better than a Saab for slogging through a narrow 2-lane road at night in poor visibility for a couple hundred miles.
300 hp in a FWD car is kinda pointless though. Stil, Mighty Griffin for life.
@BigBlockRed sounds great! Tell me more reasons why you hate it other then you thinking its boring :) have an aero in the garage myself.
@BigBlockRed must suck being such a diehard fan of other brand you go to comment sections full of people who like them, just to say they're shit. I'll keep enjoying my comfortable ride and great seats thanks.
Who said Saabs were better than Ferraris? I mentioned thoughtful, innovative features, ergonomics, and attention to details more than outright sportiness. FYI, I also own an E46 coupe and a Porsche 996 (both terrific cars to drive) and the 9-5 has plenty of advantages over the two. Can it outhandle them? Of course not. But honestly, if I had to only keep 1 car out of those three, I'd probably choose the Saab. And if you don't "get" Saabs or like them, that's totally fine, everyone's entitled to their opinion and I respect that. But calling it a "crap company" only demonstrates you have a lot to learn about the complexity and intricacies of car engineering, design, and manufacturing. It's not just about how fast you can go around a corner...
@BigBlockRed While I won't disagree with you about the superb handling of BMWs, nor their build quality, I do think you're selling Saabs short. I own a 2005 9-3 Sport Saloon and it puts out 220HP and 360Nm of torque. Despite being FWD, it's an absolute blast to drive and I love it. I think the biggest problem is that people don't push them. I've pushed my car so hard on occasions, I've been able to smell the tyres from inside the car when I park up. On the right tyres, it's incredibly grippy, and can take corners surprisingly quickly; and its power and torque allows it to leave corners pretty fast too.
I've no experience with the 9-5, but from what I gather although they're more powerful than a 9-3, the 9-3 has the edge on handling and overall sporty driving. What also needs to be mentioned is their reliability. My car is on 163,000 miles and is still going strong with no major issues whatsoever; I bought it three years ago at 91,000 miles. Now I could go on about how a BMW 3-Series I saw was in for a replacement timing chain after just 60,000 miles; owned by an old man who doesn't take it above 2,500 RPM, but that's a non-issue because BMWs are also reliable, and every car manufacturer has made lemons; Saab is no different.
I was saving for a BMW 335i with a target of around £8000, but grew tired of my savings being eaten away by general life expenses. So I bought one of these "for now" for £1300 with the aim to trickle save for the BMW. Now I have the Saab I have no interest in saving for another car. I'd rather put my money into the Saab, absolutely love it😍😍
@@medler2110 Great aren't they? I'm not saying if someone offered me a BMW 335i I wouldn't consider it..but apart from the performance it would feel like a downgrade. much less space etc. Plus from what I've seen I could reach some serious power with forged internals and a bigger turbo etc, so then I'll have the performance I desire but with the practicality and comfort. Plus I've always liked cars which aren't too common or "in fashion"
Take care of your Saab, those cars are soon gone because people treat them as any other car. Saabs have a different soul and feel which doesn't really is possible to describe. As an owner to a 2008 9-3, I really do love it and will always do
Good boy. Wait till you try Volvo 🥵
I drive a saab 9-3 2.0t from 2002, and it's the best car ever made. If you've never driven a saab, it's very hard to imagine the pleasure you get when you drive it.
My dad drove me home from the hospital I was born at in his Saab. As I grew up, his car was a part of my life. I couldn’t stop pushing the button on that cool cup holder and watching it fold in and out. I didn’t know much about cars back then, and I still don’t, but at 27, I sure as hell know they were incredibly unique and were damn well engineered cars.
I wasn't alone, I guess. The cupholder is another reason I want a 9-5 as my first car
There's this weird thing about Saabs. If you don't like/understand them, a quick test drive isn't going to change your mind. However, live with a Saab for a few months and you start to get it. They are extremely well engineered and everything is propely designed. You can tell someone actually put their mind to it.
What about 3.0 tid engines, is it realiable?
@@lukiux8406 Not really. It's from Isuzu and has problems with cylinder liners sinking. Although I guess any still running have either been fixed or never had that problem to start with.
@@vibingwithvinyl Thx for fast reply!
Great cars and very well built! They are dirt cheap i Sweden and parts are everywhere. So much smile per swedish krona.
Hey ! As you're swedish and you didn't post your message too long ago, are classic 900s (turbo 16 and turbo 16s), especially convertibles, cheap too ? 'Cause in the rest of europe (personally I'm french), they raised sooo much in value.
@@PierreColombo900 Hi, i'd say that theyre cheaper in sweden but i would'nt call them cheap.
I bought my Saab 9-5 2005 Vector for 5000sek (ca 480 euros). I'd say that The Saab 900 convertible starts at ca 50 000sek with T8/T16 being more expensive.
@@trolllololololo Hey, thanks for the answer !
Unbeatable price for your 9-5 haha !
So that's less than 5k €, well if you want to laugh a bit then : www.leparking.fr/voiture-occasion/#!/voiture-occasion/Saab-900.html%3Fid_modele%3D3433%26id_energie%3D3%26id_motorisation%3D16%26id_boite%3D2%26slider_millesime%3D1920%7C1993
The worst thing is, that most of them are just 900 S', and a T16 S in good condition is simply unfindable
@@PierreColombo900 ouh😅
@@trolllololololo Now you know why I was asking 😅 I think it's a shame tho, guess I'll have to take a fly to sweden to find the 900 of my dreams haha
Clarkson always loved SAAB deep down but was too British to admit it. Especially on camera. Can't wait to head out tomorrow morning in my 300hp '03 9-3 SS. Lol
Beyond doubt the best value used car and a luxo at that. Beautifully and thoughtfully built. Saab is dearly missed and as a Benz owner I really wish they'd make a comeback not as some zombie Chinese electro box. Saab deserved better. Get in a 9-5, 9-3, 9000, OG900 and see for yourself...
Too bad that all the 9-5s ends up with a shit ton of rust
@@ASDASD34RDFS mine 9-5 Is from 2001...no rust to see🤔
@@harko1962 mines a 2003, few spots but she still looks beautiful!
@@Haans5010 330000 km ....still drive's like New!
@@ASDASD34RDFS I've got a Saab 95 vector sport 07 plate not a spot of rust drives great
Proud owner of a 2004 Espresso Black Aero, just like the one on the video. It laughs in the face of danger. Phenomenal overtaking acceleration, and hell, beyond that! What a wicked machine. A strong recommendation, an awesome daily. Sophisticated and calm at first glance but a terrifying, sensational experience when you wake the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries turbocharger up. What a masterpiece, by a manufacturer strugglung to survive. SAAB
Good old early days of Top Gear, Clarkson looks really happy here. Like it was the sweet spot, before it went nuts in popularity and the show became a parody of itself
On my second Saab now. Although technically third, as i had access to another one.
Jezza is right. People don't know what is special about them, until they actually get in a Saab. I wouldn't have anything else now if I am honest. And it will be a real shame when there are no more of them about.
M u s t k e e p t h e m a l i v e.
I've just experienced it and I'm hooked 😜
Yep perfectly said. I am on my second SAAB now and i love them.
Thanks to GM
247HP with 370Nm of torque, fantastic motorway cars
They are👍
Particularly funny when you consider the Saab 4cyl engine started life as a Triumph Dolomite engine
260HP 07 onwards
Nice tho im pushin 360/460 in my Stage 1 GTI Clubsport. But thats a diffrent car & new.
@@tredfxman My old 04' 9-5 does 40HP less than yours, but have 80Nm more. Gotta love sleepers.
Btw, nice name.
Also look up Boba Golf, I laugh at how insane that car is, truly a monster.
As someone who owns not just one but two Saabs I can say that Saab is the nicest all around daily driver you can have. It's comfortable, economical, and luxurious without being flashy enough to draw attention of thieves, vandals, and law enforcement.
I love how the comments are filled with happy saab drivers :) shure love the saab community! Love my 9-5
I drive a 9-3. Love it. It's my second one. I got rear-ended in my last one... able to drive away to a safe place. Nothing other than dented boot under the rear bumper and a "crease" in both rear pillars. All lights perfect. The VW Golf that hit me was literally one giant mess of bits and parts. Morale of the story.... Buy a used SAAB. Nothing safer, nothing more enjoyable to drive, nothing with seats like SAAB. The auto is just divine. Probably the best cars ever. (Dying to try a 900, just to see?)
I've had quite a few cars. Never changing from SAAB now
Before 2010 I was a Citroen driver, hooked on Xantia's, but gave mine to my son, who needed a good motor and bought a Saab 9.5 2.0 T 2004.
First impression when driving in the city; unpleasant and bumpy GM (Opel Omega/Vauxhall Vectra) product. Instantly felt sorry for not buying a Citroen C5 instead.
Untill I got her on the motorway.
A revelation...
The last time I felt like that when driving was in 1979 when I had an Alfa Guilia 2000 Berlina, but this was even faster, much more comfortable, quieter and better planted on the road. Drove her ''The Grey Goddess'' for eight years and 70.000 km before swopping her in for a 2009 2.3 T Aero; ''The Beast''.
Thanks for uploading. I was looking for this for years!
And I drive a SAAB!
I drive 9-3 in China, i am so proud of become a saaber
One of my SAAB is now exactly this. Espresso Black Aero. Wonderful cars.
best colour
I bought my first Saab in 1989..driven them ever since..I've had two c900, three 9000cse and currently own 9-5 Areo, which I've had for 13 yrs and will never part with, and a 9-3 estate as my daily drive...
The answer to "why do these people buy Saab" is very easy : it was because it was a Saab !
There were cars, and there were Saab...
The first car I ever bought was a 900 turbo 16 S-line, it was more than 20 years ago, I never found anything like that car since then.
After owning half a dozen NG9-3's, an 89 SPG and an 01 Viggen, there is definitely something very cool about them. Hilariously quick in all instances, with the st1 SPG and st3 Viggen downright brutal.
SAAB was awesome
I really miss the Saab brand ,but the Top gear team from that period must bee the best that have ever been made...Thank you for sharing these fantastic clips of the real Top Gear...Great people and great show...please come back
the absolute best value ever in a used car. I have 3, and have had 4 others in the last 10 years. For around $3000 you can drive the daylights out of a 9-5 aero for years with only minimal maintenance. I typical spend about $165 a year in CPSenors, the odd hose, and oil changes (get a new DIcassette with lifetime warranty because every 2 or 3rd time you exceed 130mph you will fry it). A stage1 9-5 aero will beat 75%+ of the vehicles on the highway.
True I love my 95 it moves, can't speak for all Saabs but mine is horribly unreliable but it's fun
The part when Jeremy holds up Richard to put on the lap time is pretty wholesome. 4:09 😊
The SAAB-9000 Aero (1993-1996) was a fullminant cars. The engine-managment was 10-15 forwards to the rest the another cars-manufactorys. The trionic-engine-proxys of the saab was own on the world. A many technic-facts: 2,3l-4 Zyl. , 16 Valve, 350 Newtometer by 1.900 turns, liga, came chain, Mitschubischi -Turbo-ceramic water intercooler, front-loader = 1,1 - 1,6 pressure/Bar, 225 PS/HP, Sprint-Speed, 0-100 hk: 5,9 sec, highest speed in hk: 250 sealed off. Sprit wastage: 8,5-9,5 Liter on 100 kilometer. The security pagets is high-optimal. For a new prise from 46.500 Euro in the year 1993 was the Saab a really cheap care.
They absolutely were great cars in that era. On top of you what you've mentioned, the interior was also great and looked awesome! Practically with the lift back boot and plenty of room for passengers. 9000 was the beginning of the 9-5 Aero 🙂
Saab9-5 was my second ever car, my first was a Saab 9000 which I crashed and rolled at 100km/h, really loved it
The crash or the car?
@@FVBmovies mainly the car, the crash was aight since I was in that tank
I love Saab's. They were cool, interesting, different, quirky and unique when I was growing up. I miss Saab, they were just on another level and I liked that.
I owned a 03' 95 Aero Turbo, which was probably the most powerful and comfortable car I have ever had - much better than today's Audis and BMW's etc. The interior feels like a spaceship - wide, quiet, and futuristic; leather was real and extremely comfortable; the acoustics was great and the sound system was supreme; acceleration on the motorway was breathtaking - 40-70mph was unbeatable. You feel like driving a fast Tank. Sadly the repair costs were too high from 6-7th tear onwards - rear light fault? £350 bespoke Saab chip; boot can't open? another £400 for a tiny computer chip; frequent engine faults warnings ...... I probably spent £2-3k a year on repairs over the last few years and the engineer blamed the limited numbers and said it really cost more than a Porche. Had to sell it in 2012 because we had only one garage. I might have kept it if we had more parking spaces. You can't find that leather quality these days unless in a RR!
can't wait to join the saab community, stuck with my polo atm but i'm looking forward to my first saab so much!
Youre welcome!
I am the owner of a 9-5 2.3T 400 hp, I don't know any other engine that would be so simple and cheap to tune and that doesn't have any failures
pistons...
Ask a Saab enthusiast and they'll tell you a Turbo X is faster on a track than a GT2. That's what they "know" that we don't.
3:28 The Stig's fighter pilot cousin.
I daily a W140 at the moment, just bought one of these but in wagon form (in my opinion sexier) and I loooove it.
Absolutely. If you can source a roof spoiler, it just completes the car 👌👌
"except you need some new tires" points at the back right after talking about FWD performance
because the tyres are now rubber on the road behind him... something everyone but you realised.
That cupholder at 0:59 goes so hard
Commodores of the same generation had then aswell
Saab tech for 10 years now general tech. These cars are very underappreicated. Many records, the 9-5 was also the safest car in the world by 5 different agencies. 9-5 production of 04 so from 04-14ish was highest safety rating streak. It had a perfect score. Cars beat it out as the saftey requirements increased, still a very safe car regardless. The really old saabs a guy known as mr. Saab use to race 99s and roll them on purpose to show the strength of the roof. Then push it over keep driving maybe roll it again. Great marketing back then imo. Or the fact the stig of top gear was another racing legend that use to race saabs. Every saab cost more to produce than it was sold for. The first saab owner to take his car to 1 million miles got a new saab for free from saab and they kept the tradition going.
Throwing a Saab around a racetrack is like going shopping in a tractor. It's trying to do something that it's not designed for. That mid-range punch is what it was designed for and - as the gorilla stated - it does it better than anything else.
8:13 faster than Porsche turbo from 40-70mph...i liked this part most
Just bought one. I love high speed highway cruising. The us cannonball coast to coast 9-5 cemented it for me.
Economy wasn't too bad either ay?
I have the privilege of getting one of these as my first car... So excited, I know how lucky I am so I'll make sure to treat her well.
Enjoy! Lots of info out there that covers basic maintenance. Night mode might seem bit silly to a pilot maybe 🤪
GM killed the brand sadly. Have had 3 since I started driving at aged 15 in 1995. Will remember every mile.
Saab 9-5 Turbo or even better the Aero 2.3L 4Cyl. B235R engines are HOT high performance and you can redline each gear for about 7.4 seconds to really push the engine as none of these driving tests we see don't even attempt to do them and see what the true time is from 0 - 60 or the quarter mile?
The B235R has so much potential for tuning and performance in various stages to maximize horsepower turbo and having the fun and exhilarating driving experience!
Even its older models being the 900 Turbo and Aero/SPG and 9000 series have the potential to its newer cousins!
great engine
Completely pointless redlining the B235R. The power curve drops away considerably before 6000rpm. Sure with B234 cams you can rev higher for good effect. But not a standard B235R, you're just straining the engine for no reason.
@timyorkpersonal9311 I guess you don't belong to a Saab Club like I was and yeah we had Pro-Am racers and mechanics to see and talked about among club members...
Im a Sea Captain, and Had my first Saab 2003, I love the car, I had Audi, Oldsmobiles Volvos, and just 3 months ago, I found a 9-3 Sport Combi 1.8t linear, got it from an old lady who passed away.
Its like new in and outside, its a 2011. I have done a sandblaster underneath, and its painted with 2 comp Zink paint, plus wax and oil, and its tuned up from 150hk, to 200hk gasoline.
Today its also treated by cheramic pro, to conserve the paint.
Today 2023, I have a laugh at Audis, Mercedes, and wolkswagen, my car are faster then the most of the others, and its still looks more modern than most of the other cars.
So dont talk shit about the best car ever made!!!
Why saab? Because it's a everlasting funmachine! My 9-5 aero is 20 years old with 265 000km or 165 000 miles and still running perfect and is a lot of fun to drive, and it's a real country-road-machine made for long-driving. I still love it. Sure, it's comes with issues, but 20 year? Which car, that old, with that mileage, doesn't? 😄😄👍👍👍saab will live forever..
Finally having to put my 9-7X to rest this week... I'm going to miss it and I hope I'll be able to own another SAAB again in the near future
Why is that? Did The rust take it?
I got over 300 k miles on my 97x and still going
Found one for sale for just 750 bucks. I'm picking it up today
It's nice for Jeremy to feature Super Trouper by ABBA.
1:46 This is the ultimate "oh snap"-moment for all Volvo-owners
Under steer like a 70’s - 80’s Audi Saloon , after visiting the Dentist in 2010 I bought a 93 , superb car, the far far better than its humble Vectra underpinnings , RIP SAAB
Awesome cars and they definitely aged well!
Gorgeous car.
Saabs are great roll racers while being comfortable and affordable.
8:15 that right there is why people love saab
I have saab 95 in Malaysia, its rare here. Left it because there no spare part here and very expensive to maintain
I have a 9-3 aero petrol 2 litre manual . Mid range is phenomenal acceleration . Be good to see it up against a 9-5 on the motorway 😁
Totally different cars if it's after 2003 model
@@vinb3032 mines 54 reg and obviously they're different cars as they're 2 different models. Jus be good to see how the mid range compares on the motorways or A roads ..
9-5 Aero has a better midrange (80-120 ish kmph) but handling of the 9-3 is much better in my experience. Let us know 😊
I've got a 9-5 2.3T wagon and a 9-3 2.0t NG convertible with a stage 1 Noobtune map (=2.0 Aero power). My feeling is that the 9-5 will simply eat the 9-3 around motorway speeds. It's the torque, I guess. But on the back roads it's a different story!
@@tonyfisk8081 i do love the 9-5 areos tbf just a bit big for what i need plus the tax is steeper too aint it .. dont know if would eat the 9-3 though mid range would be closer than you think i reckon
I have a stage 1 Saab 95 aero brilliant car fast, solid and comfortable and has 280 bhp all for 2k pounds, get me another car with the same spec and Performance for the money? You’ll
Never find one
Mazda 3/6 MPS are pretty cheap and 260hp standard. Easily tunable to over 300hp
@@paul2334 yes i was looking at these a while ago half decent ones are around 5k but a lot of car for the money
@@trancebass2741 nah man, you can get decent ones for £2.5k - £3k mark now. They are so cheap for what you get and the value of them are still going down! (Much to my dismay). LSD as standard too. The 6 mps's have AWD, and there's a very active group of enthusiasts/modified community. The worst thing is the tax though, unless you get a 2006 model 6 it's the highest tax bracket! £540 a bloody year. Very cheap insurance balances it out though
P T hmmm I may have to start looking again then lol I fancy another weekend toy the Saab is so comfy though, yeah I have an 06 Saab 95 tax is 550 it’s disgusting but I pay it, anything I should look out for on the mazdas? Any common issues ? Thanks
@@trancebass2741 They're great cars, very underrated like the Saab. Not many people know what they are. Common issues are:
-Make sure timing chain and vvt has been changed, these are prone to fail on these because they have a poor OEM tensioner. You can check for a bad timing chain on cold start up if you hear a loud rattle.
-K04 Turbo seals don't hold up too well if oil isn't changed regularly, if there is smoke when car is idling then it's likely the turbo seals.
-Also make sure they don't have a generic remap from some random tuning company. You can't just "up the boost" on these, you need to upgrade the high pressure fuel pump internals first to prevent zoom zoom boom as the stock can't produce enough pressure. There are plenty of reputable tuners from the states that you send your logs to (using an access port or versa tuner) and they send back a customised tune.
Other than that they're pretty solid cars, granted the oil is changed frequently. If you're interested to learn more, you should join the MPS OC on facebook or the forums.
God I feel like a car salesman haha
I love Saabs ,iam on my third one 95 wagon in years.
6:42 in sweden we brake before a corner
I was terrorizing the highways of Denver with this Saab Aero I bought bigger turbo
Watch for state troopers lol
Have the chance to buy a 9-5 HOT Aero just like the one here on TopGear.....Should I? Should I? Should I?
I have a 93T convertible a1 condition love it
Today I buy this car.
Just starting up this beast - I feel like my Gmail icon as a pilot = 757-200.
Anyone know the song @ 8:33 ?
I bought a 2001 2.3t with 185 horsepower and an automatic transmission - so it won't eat Porsches (not that I'd want to…).
It's pretty thirsty in town and the suspension drily passes on short bumps to the driver at low speeds.
It has some small niggles (computer display has pixel faults, the ABS control unit is on its way out and something seems to go wrong with the A/C Control - which may cost around 1,000 € to have fixed by my tame mechanic) but it's been reliable, it's well equipped, I got it cheaply a year after the company went bankrupt - and it doesn't rust or age badly.
Look at the W210 chassis Mercedes built at that time rotting away now - and the Audi A6 and BMW 5-Series of that vintage are really showing their age - whereas the SAAB looks timeless.
Looking at today's offers of low mileage 9-5s, mine has hardly depreciated which makes driving it a bargain despite the repairs and fuel needed - so I'm a happy camper.
all good points, but the E39 5 series has aged just as good, its beautiful
@@Financmajster You're right. But in Germany, everyone knows pretty exactly how old these are now whereas a Saab is always a bit of a wild card - partly because the models were produced very long, partly because it's a bit of an exotic brand...
@@notroll1279 thats right, some people dont even know saab is a thing, mostly younger girls, they are like saab? what is that
@@Financmajster - What the h3ll is a Saab
-Its swedish sporty thing its got a key in the middle
I have a saab 9-5 estate and it's 1 year older than me and I'm 18 rn
Which engine you got? And by the way how reliable are these Saabs?
@@Has7DCT mine is a 2.2 liter turbo diesel I haven't got much time driving it cuz i don't have a licence yet but in my thought the seats are comfy as f and reliability I'm not pretty sure yet mine has a few problems but I'm fixing them
can't stop watching this bit of top gear lmao
I had a 2006 SAAB. Fast but the electric system was terrible. It cascaded with electric system failures. Replacement parts were sparse and expensive. The ride was mediocre.
In the end, I gladly gave it away. Current owner parked it after a week and hasn't touched it since.
1:26 anyone know the music used here?
I’m trying so hard to find the song man Been looking Online for hours
@@Mccaigg could be a slowed down bit of something. I tried to shazam it but it didn't work. Its driving me mad.
william hall I found it mate
“Ex4” by “Appliance” !
@@Mccaigg feel blessed thank you so much good god
william hall if you like that kind of psychedelic droney stuff try listening to the band “ causa Sui “ I think you’ll enjoy them too
Had a saab once, it was awesome and really high tech. Unfortunately it was really really unreliable.. it was a 9-3 3 door turbo
I miss saab
Best car ever made for safety!
They said 220HP was the limit of FWD car and now we have A civic type r turbo for 300HP. Technology 😁
I love that car.
I bought one for $3000 I love it! Much better than the ng9-3
What is the name of the song that stig is playing in the car lol
@@v_isforvictory9366 I think it is flight of the valkyrie
Mechanical engineers have them .... lol I have too many saabs
Used to work as a plumber, fire system tech and now i work in the municipality. Owned my 9-5 since 2009, love it to bits...oil changes every 5000km^^
Also I am a Saab enthusiast and parts are very easy to get. Don't let dissuade you.
tbf if you live in more of a developing country it's not quite as easy, but in the NA or Europe parts are very easy to get a hold of
SAAB 💗
Wheres the harrier car?
So what's the point? Does he like it or not so much? Really couldn't figure it out.
Even if he liked it, wasn't brave enough to say that directly. But if he thought it was bad, I'm sure he would've clearly point that out with his colourful vocabulary.
That's a similar reasons why people pay more and get a Merc, BMW or an Audi instead of a Saab (pre 2007 parallel year models) imo
He literally said at the end that he really liked the car.
Letting go of my first car (Saab 9-3) today. I feel gutted but it's time to move on.
I drive 9-3 still now, in fact, drive a 10-year-old car is a tough thing
Wrong move. Unless u buy another one :)
Please bring back Saab without general Motors 😢😢😢
4:45 song anyone?
I suspect abba
I have a SAAB and omg you can't tell me anything 😂 ❤
good luck finding one now
The actual car in the video was for sale 5 days ago haha. That's what brought me here.
wow,nice driving against jet plane 👍
Yes they do have handbrakes!
Saabs are really nice. Well made, though not as well as an Audi, but then again, what is? It's comfortable, affordable and look really nice and smart.
I have had several Saabs and now have an A4, Saab was better built.
This is a joke, right? Audis are consistently towards the bottom of customer satisfaction surveys in most markets, and poor reliability is the major reason why. They are not well built at all.
@@themancuniancandidate2744 Do you have one? From my experience, the only thing to break has been the fuel door release, so definitely reliable. They are well built too. I'd be curious as to why you think they aren't.
@@jtsotherone I doubt the newer generation 9-3/9-5 Saabs are. Lots of cheap plastic and cost cutting as a result of GM unfortunately.
@@tidierpenny I had an A4 turbodiesel, 2008 model. It was a company car, so it didn't cost me a bean every time it went wrong, but in the 2 years I had it (it was 6 months old when I acquired it), it needed an AC compressor, an airbag recall, a turbo, a driver's seat motor, and the less said about the fecking alarm system the better.
Also, Audi are consistently low scoring in JD Power surveys, and here in Australia VW Audi products consistently score low in customer satisfaction ratings
Would not have bought anything else but my SAAB 9-3 if I had to choose again. It is my good reliable, strong and agile buddy. Just love the brand, even though it is defunct.
Great car....👍
Quiker than a 911,
According to Jeremy clarkson, yes 🤷♂️
If its so good in 2nd gear what took it so long to get around the track
The Stig!
Well it's not a track car, it was built to be safe. I'm sure if The Stig would have taken a couple more laps it would have been higher up the charts. His run did NOT look smooth.
@@Kune35 yeah sliding everywhere
It's a fact.
From whitch year is this SAAB??
Probably 2004-2005
awesome