I Live Streamed a Sleep Deprivation Experiment
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Experiments that mess with *your mental health and cognitive capacity* are not worth the risk for you!
Please don't try to do this again. Just take care of yourself !
Best of luck !
The fact that you live streamed it 😭. THE DEDICATION
you do you boo
Not being able to sleep for 52 hours was one of the most terrifying things that's happened to me. Please, do NOT do this.
I’m definitely not advocating for people to do this. This was a medically supervised experiment that I did within a safe, controlled environment. I was very in-tune with my body and limits, and stopped when I felt it was too much.
Im so sorry you had to experience that, and I hope you’re okay! 💜
The longest I've ever gone without sleep was almost 4 days straight and it was genuinely horrifying. I slipped into micro-sleeps and hallucinated both visually and audibly on day 3. My appetite grew but I couldn't keep any food down. It was all due to the pressure of school and trying to cram and meet deadlines while studying for important exams. The normalcy around sleep deprivation, especially in high school and college is so dangerous. After pulling so many consecutive all nighters as a normal routine, it eventually developed into insomnia that I suffered with for years.
@@mattisencox8176 I guess thankfully my school was never so difficult I'd need to sacrifice so much sleep to studying but I never quite understood why people would pull allnighters to study when surely the lack of sleep would make studying much more difficult. I can feel myself slipping just after some 20 hours awake. I can't imagine trying to study in that state and surely it would be more time efficient to sleep a little and then study again when your brain can actually work.
@@tinnie75 You're completely correct! As a teenager, it felt so important to get everything DONE that I was willing to sacrifice many nights of sleep for it. I went to college and high school at the same time and definitely procrastinated on a lot of assignments until the last week they were due, so the workload was intense. I deeply regret putting that much pressure on myself for something that just isn't as important as your health, which you don't really realize until you're an adult.
I did 7 days many years ago, I thought I might die. I literally couldn’t lift my arms up.
I'm a psych student + I'm taking a Psychology Research class right now, I was thinking as I watched the first half "Practice effect! Practice effect!". I'm glad you addressed that issue, and I think that is what ended up skewing your results, but very well done on this experiment! It's really nice to see other students doing this type of experiment, it was really great to watch.
I also wonder if attention could be skewing the results considering she is streaming at the same time as doing the tests it may break her focus and mean that she is paying less attention to the tasks at certain points especially if she is easily distracted considering the loud noises and pop ups whilst doing tests
I think it would also be valuable for her to be unaware of the tests at all. It skews the results for the subject to have any prior knowledge of the testing measures. I think it would be more valuable to have someone choose the testing measure for you (I have a degree in psych).
Not sure if this is what you hoped to impact, but I learned from this video that the consistent lack of healthful sleep I've been vibing with for the past 10 months now is definitely affecting my health, memory, and happiness.. so omg thank you for making this and suffering to educate us all
please rest !!! it's so incredibly important !
As the gaslighter who said i didn’t notice you fall asleep I truly feel like I was a huge part of the experiment lmao
MARY 💀
The things you do for this channel, you deserve way more subscribers
oh stop it you flatterer you
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My record for days without sleep is 4 working two full time jobs simultaneously.
The last day I remember hallucinating seeing things out of the corner of my eyesight and finally seeing a rastafarian walk up to me and ask me how I was doing while I was in a building completely alone.
I worked years getting little to no sleep for weeks on end. I would nap whenever I wasn't actually engaged in doing something.
I have no doubt it's left lasting consequences. (depression, medical issues etc)
If I stay up for more than a day I start hallucinating I think the longest I’ve gone is maybe 3
I've also gone about 4 days, and around day 3, I started to have hallucinations.
Sleep deprivation or constantly getting to little sleep indeed correlates with higher rates of depression and being less able to regulate your emotions. I highly recommend "Why We Sleep" from Matthew Walker for anyone who would like to know more about sleep and especially what to little sleep is doing with your body. He also was featured in a lot of videos here on youtube where he talks about this stuff
I suffer from ADHD, insomnia and a panic disorder along with physical issues and honestly I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video.
Myself and my parents have been fighting with doctors my whole life because they don't take sleep deprivation serious enough, when I was a teen it got so bad I ended up missing large chunks of school cause I just couldn't function anymore, the doctor put me on sleeping pills that just messed up the little sleep I was actually getting.
This still is affecting me now and doctors just say I'm someone who doesn't need much sleep and I've never actually had it looked in to properly because I'm not taken seriously over it.
I'm so sorry. This is so screwed up. I have chronic lyme and it does some horrible things to my body, creates brain fog, and causes sleep issues. I am tired all the time, like you. And doctors, for the most part, think it's all not real. When people can't see the problem, they only have your word for it, they just don't get it, even doctors.
I hope you find someone who understands and can help. I hope so much for not just medical advancement but for people who work in medicine to learn to listen better and so much more. There is so much arrogance and so much 'I don't know what's wrong and I don't' know how to find out what's wrong so I'm going to slap some labels on it and some half-assed explanations and send them on their way because I'm too important to admit that I just don't know.'
Hugs! Witnessing how hard this is for you.
That’s horrible. I have depression and serious anxiety, which do affect the way I sleep. Like I’ll avoid sleeping because I’m absolutely terrified that I’ll die in my sleep. I’ve been dealing with this since I was little. It’s not taken seriously either, it’s so annoying. I hate how people either ignore my paranoia or get mad about it. Like damn, I’m sorry I have problems
@@FyreHeartStudios this!! 100% I expireenced that with a doctor who wrote me off and tried to send me ti a therapist but I was told they couldn't help do when I went back to the doctor they did an actual exam and found my stuff was physical so they did tests and inside there was stuff they could see but didn't know why-
I've had doctors say they don't know what's wrong and as much as it sucks its better then settling for the wrong diagnosis and still deal with the problems- everyone should be heard and seen because even if it's something a therapist can fix like ig mine was due to severe pain and my doctor didn't wanna hear me out so they said my nerves are over reactive beacue my brain focuses to much, turns out that wasn't it
So even if that is your issue you, you still have symptoms and should be listened to
i am not really like you, but it doesn’t matter hoe much i sleep 5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12 hours (tried them all) i’m still very tired and i feel like i never NEVER have energy to do something
The amount of times I’ve had these micro-sleeps in college is insane. It’s really a miracle that I graduated considering how sleep deprived I’ve been over the course of those 3 years.
I struggled with migraines for a long time and I randomly noticed when I went to bed early (I would usually go to bed around midnight or 1 am but I had had a few rough weeks and was so sleepy) I was getting less migraines. I won't say sleeping more cures migraines because it's more complicated than that, but I did notice an improvement just from that. I guess it just goes to show how important sleep is for so many things we don't even think about.
I also have this, if I stay up too late or sleep in too much (specifically waking up and choosing to go back to sleep and dozing for a couple extra hours) I get headaches immediately and then after a few days I start getting migraines every few days. Also I become more prone to bouts of depression.
@@estrella7323 Me too! (The first half)
And generally I experienced too much sleeping is not good with depression. There's even a therapy with a little supervised sleep deprivation for depressive people (in a hospital).
My mum has chronic migraines and insomnia. Wouldn't surprise me if the migraines were partially caused/worsened by the lack of sleep
I have noticed this too! I feel like there is a strong correlation between overall health and the amount of sleep we get, which becomes evident with our migraines!
@@estrella7323 are you me? Cause literally SAME to everything u said 😭😭
I'm probably sleep-deprived 90% of the year (diagnosed chronic insomnia and various sleep troubles when i was 7) and this is so normalised and kinda made fun of as a "it is what it is" or "i'm so quirky i don't sleep it's a waiste of time" and this annoys me so much, like we really suffer from it on a daily basis, and even more when it's added on top of other things, i really hope your video will shed light on the health aspect of it for some people, thank you for doing this fr
I'm so sorry to hear this. Chronic sleep deprivation sounds absolutely awful, and I cannot imagine what you go through. Sleep deprivation is not a joke, and whilst I try to make videos like this entertaining as well as educational - I had a doctor supervise me because even short-term sleepless isn't something to be taken lightly (as you said). I really hope that some day you can feel rested - sending love
@@Ellbat stop it that's so sweet 🥺 thank you so much, honestly it's quite hard sometimes but it's been so long that it has just become the standard for me, now in general i'm more concerned about the long-term health consequences than being tired on the daily tbh. I haven't finished the video yet but it is really good and informative, i'm sure this will help some people at least make the first step to get a checkup with a doctor if they suspect anything revolving around sleep issues, thanks to you for putting yourself through this
i can relate to this. I have a serious disorder and I sleep less than 25 hours a week during a normal week. it's awful, but the thing I hear the most is "oh must be nice, you have more time for hobbies and studying" "lol i wish that were me" "me too!" (usually said by people who suffer insomnia once in a while without serious consequences..) and more. people don't get how terrible it is and are so insensitive over it. wishing you the best in life despite the struggles with this
@@aniimako for realllll !! that's exactly it, they don't realise that when it is that bad it really is disabling and litteraly dangerous for our physical and mental health, wishing you the best too
I honestly applaud you for being able to stay awake for that long, I've never even done 24 hours without a nap
same
I stayed up for 28 hours straight one time and I thought I was going to die. I don't see how anybody can go 2+ days. Sleep deprivation is no joke, but it seems that everyone has a different "tolerance" level. Mine is just really low, I guess.
@@MdnightWnd at this point I can't understand people stay up for 18hrs
I pulled all nighters for school a bit and have managed 3-4 days or so without sleep but I was okay considering all the symptoms, I only had it bad when I hadn't eaten or drank water- I will say it was from a lack of being able to sleep at night and you'd think I'd be tired by the next night but everytime I'd expirence sleepiness it was during the day while busy-
Remember, get your sleep
epidemiologist here! would love to make a research design plan for you if you redo this - definitely an interesting area of study. Lots of variables to consider but for sure doable!
Would be so cool if you'd work on a new one together!
As someone with severe Chronic Insomnia I always find it fascinating to see how other people handle various levels of sleep deprivation. I’m usually up for 2-3 days before I can get any sleep, but my insomnia started when I was like 7ish and gradually got worse over time, so I’ve been able to somewhat adapt to functioning through the sleep deprivation.
Yikes! 28 hours was my max one time and I thought I was going to die. I can't imagine being up 2-3 days without being able to sleep. My heart really goes out to you.
Haha same, I regularly go at least 2 days with no sleep, and often 3-4 with a max of 2-4 hours total in those 4 days. I usually feel pretty ok until around day 3 and it isn't until around day 4 that I start to feel kinda gross. I go back and forth between that for weeks, then sleeping 14+ hours a day for weeks. No clue why, been trying to figure it out for years. 😂
I can't thank you enough for this! I barely get any sleep and when I do it's only 2 hour increments. I wish that more people around me would understand why I'm just drained. What I wouldn't give for a night of uninterrupted 6-8 hours of sleep once a week. Thanks El! Love this and appreciate you taking this seriously.
Ok but that, subtract 7 from 100 repeatedly and forgetting what he was doing. I can relate, but I just have ADHD
Almost psych graduate here. Your experiemnt design was actually really good! Except, obviously, the practice effects.
If you were to do this again (please don't), I'd recomend the day before you start the experiment you do the human benchmark test at least 3 times at those 5 hour intervals, as though you were in the experiment then average those scores for your baseline. Proceed as you did already when you do the experiment.
The only addition I would include would be to address your worry that the benchmark test isn't testing what you want it to. I would include simple maths tests (like the one given to the guy in the original study: measured by how many times you can subtract say 8 from 100 consecutively) and a language comprehension test (perhaps reading a short passage of text and answering questions about it: measured by how many times you get the answer right). Also include these in your practice tests before the experiment. These serve to test information processing, which you appeared to sort of struggle with in your test when you struggled to stay on topic when answering questions. Have someone who has had enough sleep mark these for you, unless there is one online you can find.
Finally, though not nessecary at all, I would add an actual robust data analysis. Your exteriment is what we call a within subjects experiment, where the subject is giving multiple data at different time periods. Any analysis with a single subject is really difficult to do, but I believe what you will need to conduct is either a paired-samples t-test (on each of the tests individually) OR a one-way ANOVA (aka: repeated measures ANOVA). These will give you a p-value. If it is less than 0.05 then the results are significant, and tells you that there is a difference between your results. (I am so happy for anyone who has more experience with data analysis to correct me and share what analysis would be better!) To perform this analysis, if youre interested, you can download JASP for free online. We use it at uni. The JASP website also has a comprehensive instructional guide on how to perform the test and interpret the data. I'm sure there are also UA-cam videos out there for it if you need to see it happening. But again, it's not strictly needed in something like this.
Thank you so so much for taking the time to give all of this advice - I really appreciate. I actually took psychology a level and you’ve just awoken a distant memory about T-tests and P values 😭 I’ll try and do that this week to see!
Thank you so so much - I really appreciate it 💜
I'm impressed that you stayed awake that long while being stationary! I once stayed awake for three days and it was only manageable because half of that time was spent in dance class. Maybe for your next experiment, play a sport or do some kind of strenuous physical activity to see if it helps you stay awake and/or your functioning changes due to sleep deprivation!
I was awake for over 72 hours staight once. Not by choice - chronic illness does crazy things to you sometimes! The hallucinations, brain fog (I already have that thanks to my illness but it was 1000x worse), switching from utter exhaustion to overwhelming stress and anxiety for no reason, randomly crying then feeling nothing, the paranoia I felt about every sound and shadow during the night, and the fact that my sleeping tablets did NOTHING to me was wild! You probably could have pumped me full of enough tranquillisers to take down a rhino and I still wouldn't have slept. I still don't know what happened to me but thankfully it hasn't happened again.
Although now I'm at the opposite extreme and can sleep for 20 hours straight and still end up napping during the day as well. It's real weird waking up and having no idea what day or time it is.
I needed this. Stuck with a ton of college assignments, barely get any sleep.
please rest! i know you have a lot going on, but studies show that if you sleep - you'll find the work easier and more managable. look after yourself !
i get micro-sleeps all the time, during school and while driving. it is so terrifying getting them while driving because you cant control it. when you wake up from it you have a mini heart attack because it only takes a split second for something to go wrong on the road. my mirco-sleeps could take 3 seconds.
If you have micro sleeps that frequently while driving you really should try to get more sleep or go to the doctors if at all possible, it's only a matter of time before you end up hurting yourself or someone else in an accident
Shouldn’t be driving at all tbh
I experienced micro sleep during a time in my life where I wasnt able to get much sleep. I knew when they happened cuz i would jump when I woke up but I didnt know their was a term. I always learn something new when I watch your videos!
I've experienced microsleep so many times while working. I have a really bad sleep routine, but at the time I was really trying to get as much sleep as possible. Still couldn't get through uni + internship without at least once a week kinda waking up without noticing I had slept in front of the computer at the internship.
I had it once, after pulling an all-nighter. My job was answering emails. Reading+being tired... Yeah, had me doze of multiple times very very briefly without being aware, waking up with a shock and looking around me scared people noticed, only to find out nobody seemed to have seen it.
At least sleeping on company time is somewhat better than on your free time😀
I’ve pulled a few all-nighters during uni and tbh even though you feel crappy the next day it is do-able. The longest I’ve ever gone without sleep is two nights and I remember during that second night I started having small hallucinations. I kept seeing shadows and also saw what I thought was a silver beetle crawling across my legs but there was nothing there.
Even now I struggle with sleep. I have anxiety and depression and go through periods where I get too much sleep and periods where I get too little, neither of which makes you feel great. I always feel best when I get 8 hours of sleep.
My husband suffers from sleep disorders causing severe long term sleep deprivation & I can 100% attest to the overall decline in his mental acuity, memory, & mood. It has even aged him physically... sleep deprivation is no joke. At times he has literally fallen asleep while sitting up/standing- scary!
It’s amazing how much work and care u put into make your videos! This video needs to get at least 1 million views for how much work u putted into it
you're so sweet, thank u !!!
I am so glad you took healthcare precautions at all times.
My protective dad gene is still judging the hell out of you, but still.
Don't worry! Our family friend has been a doctor for like 2 decades, they would've stopped me if they thought anything was concerning (either from my BP, heart rate or general performance)! Plus, the reason i had my mum come over on the second night (other than because she's a lovely lady), is so she could check in on me in person. She's completed medical training and is well aware of any warning signs so would've 100% told me to stop if she was concerned. I really do appreciate you looking out for me! And it's always nice to see you show up in my comments, thanks for the consistent support :)
@@Ellbat Glad u took all the precautions! ❤️
I ran a 56 hour stint at uni once and my goodness, the MOOD SWINGS! Delirious at times, and downright angry at other times. Now that I've been out of uni for a couple of years, I don't know how I ever did it. Can barely make it a full 24 hours now. Cheers for the dedication!
I have a lot of micro sleeps during my commutes and it freaks me out every single time it happens, it’s genuinely terrifying.
The longest I've stayed awake is about 72 hours, I've done this multiple times throughout my life.
I regularly stay up 24-48 hours, it's not entirely intentional, I have severe anxiety and insomnia, as well as chronic pain, and ADHD (time blindness is real 😅).
Although I've had long periods without sleeping regularly throughout my life, I can say the side effects are worsening as I get older.
I get derealisation quite frequently, and depersonalisation when I am really struggling to sleep.
They're both 100% due to chronic sleep deprivation.
My mental health is also much worse when I can't sleep, and when I can get enough good quality sleep I often wake up thinking much more positively and am happier in general.
I deal with almost exactly the same thing. I have severe insomnia and anxiety coupled with numerous health issues that leave me with chronic pain. ADHD is also a factor. I've had sleep issues since I was a child but it's now so much worse as a middle aged adult. I hate it and it drives me nuts at times that I just cant regulate my sleep and I feel so guilty and often blame myself. I'm constantly trying to "fix my sleep". The derealization/depersonalization is no joke either. I wish doctors (at least mine) took sleep disorders more seriously bc it seriously impacts my life. Good luck with your sleep and may you get plenty of great quality zzz's! 😴🥴
As well as practice being a part of improving scores through the first half of the test, it is proven that your body has better physical performance later in the afternoon than in the early morning.
I know that these tests were more phycological but this could have also been a factor.
This is why in the Olympics the same athlete will go faster in the finals in the afternoon/evening.
The Tokyo Olympics changed this for swimming as they put the heats in the evening and the finals in the morning, something to do with US tv rights. There were a few more upsets and some of the times that the swimmers were swimming were slower than expected.
I should add that the improvement is something to do with body temperature rising through the day, Though im not an expert so this may be wrong.
this is so fascinating thank u !
I have absolutely awful insomnia that micro sleeps are extremely common for me. The worse is when I’m in group settings and you’re just like “oh shoot, how long have I been out” and “oh my gosh I hope no one noticed”. It’s extremely weird, embarrassing and very frustrating.
My sister get’s a psychosis every time she misses two nights of sleep. And the psychosis are lasting for months. It’s scary to think about how bad sleep deprivation is.
I definitely don't get a psychosis myself but when i dont get enough sleep I lose control of my mind also and go into panic attacks that can resemble heart attacks- So yes definitely can have a huge impact. I hope your sister gets enough sleep♡ i wouldnt wish what she experiences upon her ever
6 months of night shifts, came out of it with blepharitis, eczema and a load of stress. Don’t know how people do it for years, they have my respect 😂
25 years of 2nd and 3rd shift, depression, high blood pressure, edema, degenerative joint disease, short temper at times.
I'm a complete wreck in my mid 50's.
@@douglascampbell9809 I'll be commenting I think tomorrow if I'm up to it. I did it once and hit send and it disappeared. I'm 48 with severe lifelong narcolepsy with cataplexy (it along with other sleep disorders I have causes chronic severe long term cumulative sleep deprivation. With narcolepsy we don't have stage 3 in the circadian rhythm which is the deep restorative sleep that makes you feel rested.
Anyway I'm spent. I worked hard on that comment and can't do another one if I want it to make sense or if I don't want to type while I'm asleep. My heart goes out to you guys who work so hard putting your health at risk to care for your family. Keep an eye our. I'm going to try to post a Cliff's Notes on my life-long experience tomorrow. Take care of yourselves
I did night shift for 6 years.. I was also younger, single, and childless. It was a lot easier then. I had no reason to be awake in the day unless I had business to take care of or I wanted to. I could just wake up a few hours early and not completely shift from day and night sleep on my off days. I loved it. I did have chronic sleepiness though. I usually missed the sun altogether and maybe vitamin d would have helped but I didn't know so much about vitamins at that time.
i only lasted 3 months, getting out of work at 7am at the earliest messed me up so much i felt so awake because of the light but then so exhausted cause it was a labor job. highly recommend that if you need to have a job like this that you move on to something else as soon as you can, especially labor intensive jobs cause i was constantly in so much pain and irritable all the time
my dad did night shifts almost his entire life and im pretty sure it really affected his brain
I can totally agree with the micro sleeps, I work, go to college, and in my free time do chores until late. Running on 4 hours of sleep when I have 20 hour days ahead catches up after a while. And the driving is the scariest part, leading me to trying to improve how I spend my time💐
As someone with sleep apnea, micro sleeps are no joke. Meetings, driving, sitting watching the tv, you lose hours. It’s total shit.
Reminds me of that one time I stayed awake for alnost 50 hours too, because I just couldn't fall asleep until 8:30 am and decided to just stay awake... And when it got nighttime I couldn't fall asleep again, because my body was used to falling asleep when it got light out 💀 insomnia mixed with messed up sleeping habits✨
literally same i stayed up for 48 hours 😂
Heya, I would love to see you going through all the things you tried for videos like cold showers and talk about what of these things you're still incorporating in your life, what you would like to incorporate again and what you happily leave behind
This would be such a good second channel video!!! I’ll get to filming it and I’ll hopefully post it within the next week! Thanks for the idea 🥰
El, I don't even know how you survived this lmao. The things you do for our entertainment is immaculate haha. Loved the vid xx
thank u so much !!
I suffered from insomnia when I was in a mental health unit during a major depressive moment in my life. It caused psychosis which was terrifying!
This is just something that the trusty A-Level Psychology taught me.
An idea to help with the extraneous variables would be to gather some friends and have you alternate tasks.
For example:
First round of testing:
Friend A: verbal memory
Friend B: Reaction time
Friend C: Number memory (or whatever that test was)
And then, for your next round of testing 5 hours later (or however long you want):
Friend A: Number Memory
Friend B: verbal memory
Friend C: Reaction time
And keep switching it like this, so nobody is practicing. Due to the large number of different tests you did, you’d probably just want to shorten it down to 3 or 4 tests to alternate between.
Obviously it’d be a bit better if you could have three groups of people to carry out each test, which would look like this:
Friend A, B and C: Verbal memory
Friend D, E and F: Reaction time
And then switch.
This would help so you can find the average score and know that your results aren’t down to individual differences. However, the issue with this would be finding a big enough group of people to take part.
that feeling of being in a video game is the worst feeling because i've had depersonalisation/derealisation for years and ITS THE WORST
I've had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 22 years now and the symptoms you describe while being seriously sleep deprived, is what I experience every day although I do get enough sleep but I never feel rested. I totally get that your tests were still good even when you had brainfog. It's because you really concentrate hard and that way you are able to get good results but it leaves you totally exhausted when you're done. That's how I feel...
When I'm at my worst I also become really bitchy and have mood swings. Not remembering words, mistakingly using words, having a hard time concentrating on having a chat... all things I'm very familiar with. I don't know if you became sensitive to sounds, when I'm really exhausted every sound that is a bit above a whisper hurts me. I feel it going through my whole body.
After 22 years of it I've kinda learned to cope with it and I have gotten used to it. I really can't remember how it was before. How it felt to get up and feel rested in the morning. How it felt not to be completely exhausted to just have a chat with a friend. How my whole body feels like it weighs a ton because my muscles feel so tired. How exhausting even a little thing like taking a shower can be. How it was not to be in constant pain. How it felt to instantly learn a new thing instead of it taking weeks.
I'm so sorry you've had to deal with all of that. I have long COVID, which shares many symptoms with CFS, and I've been experiencing the symptoms you described for about a year now. The difference is that it only started after I had COVID, and my symptoms seem to flare up and then get better, then flare up again. So I don't *always* feel bad, but I'd say experience CFS symptoms (and also some symptoms usually associated with RA and other autoimmune disorders) like 70% of the time.
Sleep has SO much to do with it, too. I track my sleep using a fitness tracker, and I noticed that immediately after COVID, i started getting little to no "deep sleep" most nights. Those were also always the nights I'd wake up feeling completely exhausted, as if i hadn't slept at all. My skin temperature also dropped at night on those same nights, sometimes WAY below what my fitness track considers my "normal" zone.
One thing I've noticed is that when I get more deep sleep and my skin temperature rises overnight, I wake up feeling better-- sometimes actually normal. I've been trying a lot of different things to try to adjust my sleep stages and enourage more deep sleep, and some of the things i've tried seem to be working, though of course that's andecdotal. The things I've noticed seem to help include 1) using a heating pad or heated blanket, sometimes all night, or at least as I'm falling asleep. Lately i put it right on my chest and idk why in the world that'd help, but it does seem to help a lot. And 2) taking a medication a doctor originally prescribed to help me with PTSD nightmares. It's called Prazosin, and it's really a blood pressure med, but it's used to treat PTSD nightmares because it affects sleep stages and can reduce REM sleep, which is the stage in which we dream, so it can reduce nightmares (or that's the best theory for how it works that I've run across). I noticed that when i took it before bed, I tended to get less REM sleep and more deep sleep, and I felt more rested in the morning.
Those things may not help anyone else, but since I've been having those experiences and pretty closely tracking the effects of the things I've tried, and since i have a sense of how debilitating those CFS symptoms can be, I figured it might be worth sharing.
@@emery6601 I had a sleep study and over the whole night I do get enough deep sleep BUT I wake up about every 10 minutes in my deep sleep. I don't remember waking up though. I tried about every med that gets prescribed to sleep better and most of them had the opposite effect and kept me awake. I'm always exhausted but not sleepy.... falling asleep is hard. I'll have micro sleeps of a few minutes while watching tv or while crocheting but as soon as I go to bed, I'm wide awake. I tried sleeping on my sofa thinking that maybe if i don't have to get up ill fall asleep properly... nope. I tried about every tip and old wife's tale, nothing helps to help me sleep earlier.
I've read about the after effects of long covid and they do seem similar to CFS. I do hope for you that the symptoms will lessen in time and go away completely. So whatever works for you, and most importantly: listen to your body, if it tells you you're tired, don't force it.
I hear you! People don't understand what a huge thing CFS is. I have been so long without an episode and feel drained today and I could feel so much anxiety about going back there. My dr recommended Neuro-Mag (it's able t cross the blood/brain barrier) and I ran out a couple months ago. I have obseved my cognition dropping and my mind getting foggier and my sleep getting worse. I will have to order more asap because I can't bare the thought of this going on longer. My CFS was only 11ish years, so sending love to you for your 22 x
@@emery6601 You are the first other person with long covid that I've seen to have success with prazosin like me! It seemed to calm down my nervous system permanently in some way. I relate to so much of what you've said - been sick since the first wave.
I have had this for a year and I’m dying it feels like. I have things that require frequent hard core exercise to prevent it becoming worse- I feel you
I once stayed up around 54 hours. I had a cat go missing and I just kept a constant watch out for her, asking neighbours late afternoon. Found her after 2-3 days hiding under a neighbour's decking.
I wasn't even tired after I got her back, but I'd started seeing clowns in the corners of my vision. I decided to just go lay in bed and try to sleep before it got worse.
Slept for 23 hours straight, dreamless. It was rather disorientating as it felt I'd only just started trying to sleep and the clock had gone back an hour, but I had indeed missed an entire day.
(I didn't live alone if you're wondering about the cat having food. Was weird I wasn't checked on though. What if I was dead?)
Not me watching this with crippling insomnia that has thankfully been improving for the past few weeks.
I've spent weeks sleeping less than 4 hours every single night/day after I started a night-shift job. Sometimes 1 hour. Sometimes less. Sometimes 0. This went on continually over weeks and months. Pills would help to sometimes grant me with one single almost full night's sleep in between. But they often didn't work.
It has gotten better since summer ended. The light outside (despite me having shutters on the window) and the terrible heat were mostly what kept me awake. I'm currently averaging 6 hours a night/day. I sleep 8 hours some nights and then 3 hours other nights. It's fine. I'm just super scared of falling back into that very dark insomnia hole.
i think i also once experienced micro sleeps. a few friends of mine and i decided to go to a museum in another city by train, but we didn't buy tickets, we just went by local trains. until we got to the museum, we had been on five trains. our plan was to get to the museum in one night, spend the day and then leave in the evening. unfortunately we missed our last train and spent the night in a train station. we arrived in our home town at seven in the morning and when i got on the bus home i also experienced micro sleeps. at that point i had been awake for 42 hours. my head just fell down and i then got up anxious that i had missed my stop and because there were other people on the bus i got somewhat more anxious. in the end i experienced lots and lots of falling asleep and waking up very scared seconds after, but in the end - after 43 hours awake - i didn't miss my stop and got home safely.
You should add in some randomization! Your initial idea for the study was really good! If your interested in repeating the study, add a lot of randomized question that only appear every once in a while will help with accidentally learn the questions and eliminating bias.
When I did my undergrad we used Qualtrics or Google forms to randomize studies! I absolutely loved the video 10/10
thank u so much !!
I've had very bad insomnia since I was 18 years old. In 2019, I was getting 2 to 3 hours of light sleep for about 2 and a half weeks. I was able to increase that to 5 hours per night for a few years. A lot of that was from ongoing trauma and stress.
My record was 4 days with no sleep or food and I was compulsively pacing for the first three days. When I was finally able to fall asleep, I didn't wake up for 14 hours. I only woke up long enough to drink a little water and use the toilet and crashed for 11 hours.
There were at least 3 other times when I went 3 days with out any sleep. Going 48 hours with out sleep uses to be common for me.
I have figured out that 48 hours in, I am likely to have euphoria and hallucinations. None of these sleepless periods of time were from stimulants. When it was bad, my sleeping medication just stopped working. There were times when I took 30mg Xanax and wasn't able to get to sleep. I think that I have a resistance to sedatives
I microsleep alllll the time. It is such a weird feeling. I do it most often at the end of the night sitting at my dining room table while eat & watch youtube.
After getting my son off to school for the day, after my 2 jobs, after making dinner, tubby time and getting him to bed with bedtime stories, snuggles and kisses. After cleaning my house, etcetera. I sometimes think it feels good to nod off/microsleep a few times with my cereal before shuffling myself off to bed, LOL.
Do other people not experience micro-sleeps at least occasionally? I get them all the time when I'm tired. I felt like a huge a-hole one time when I made my bf drive us home (4 hr trip) after getting stitches in his face from an abruptly ended backpacking trip, but I knew I wasn't safe to drive due to tiredness. Despite trying to stay awake a keep him company I micro-slept so many times on that car ride home that I still respect my decision despite feeling semi guilty about it. I did offer for us to stay at a hotel... but he really wanted to get home.
The ability to do better on the tests while being so out of it reminds me of how I wrote my thesis in undergrade. I got to the point where I was beyond spacy, unable to think. But I could write my thesis. I could do papers.
This was such an interesting process to be part of/watch happen live on Twitch. Well done on the video!
I never understood how someone could fall asleep at the wheel until it almost happened to me on a long drive after a long day from Albuquerque to Los Angeles. I intelligently decided to stop at a motel in Flagstaff in the middle of the night before I killed someone. I have never felt THAT tired before. It was overwhelming.
I’m a nurse who used to work night shift consistently and now only very occasionally. I used to feel just fine doing it, was sort of a night owl when I was younger anyway. It was when I started getting those symptoms - the cognitive decline and brain fog that I knew i had to stop. Can especially relate to feeling almost worse after a “nap”. Racing thoughts, feeling disconnected, and for me, barely having the strength to stand. And now that I’m a bit older, the recovery is so much longer. Takes 3-4 days on a normal sleep schedule to feel back to normal. Glad you felt back to normal so fast, and would love to see you do it again (monitored of course) with more controls. I don’t think people realize how dangerous it can be
‘Do not try this at home’. Also me, an architecture student, used to going 3 days with 2 hours of sleep total
I basically did this test without even trying once I had kids 😭 there were so many times where time itself was just a concept and everything was a blur I would constantly forget things and feel on edge with anxiety, I would sometimes be rocking the rocker with my son in my arms bc I was just so out of it . I ended up w severe postpartum and had to be on meds and since my son had colic this sleep deprivation lasted 4 months 🤦🏻♀️ I definitely hope anyone going through this whether it’s balancing school, work, kids, friends etc. TAKE A BREAK you will definitely need it and eventually if you don’t let your body rest, it will do it for you.
ive had micosleep in school alot and almost while driving when i was younger. its really uncontrollable i would pinch myself play loud music etc and nothing would work
I had to skip sleeping for ONE night at uni (I was like 18 or 19) and decided to never do it again😵💫when I went somewhere the next morning I felt horribly out of touch with reality, as if I was in a simulation or something. A couple of fellow students used to say that if you have only 2-3 hours to sleep, it would be easier to not sleep at all, because it'll be extremely hard to wake up. Nah, 2-3 hours of sleep is def better than no sleep☠️even better if you do all the work in time and don't have to study all night before the exam🤣
i once stayed awake for 72 hours when i was in high school (watched kdrama at night and went to school during the day). i remember on the 3rd day i started having hallucinations in form of color clouds and flashes. after that i couldnt pull all nighters for a very long time. idk if it was because my body didnt let me or because i just never had the will to do so again. anways i'm an architecture students now and have had maany sleepless nights again. the longest i've been awake was once more 72 hours, working almost constantly on my projects. what i usually experience is how my skin gets glass like, pale and cold. and i feel very disattached from my body or reality at all but at the same time i see everything a lot clearer and brighter and am very much more sensitive for my surroundings. its a very strange experience but has always fascinated me.
My oldest brother went through this for army training. Absolutely brutal. Good job!
i went through it for the fun of it lmao
Microsleep if I remember correctly is the number one killer of drivers. It's waaaaay higher than drink driving
working at the hotel for a year in a day shift - night shift - 2 days off got meore angry and anxious over the time, I also frequently couldn't sleep after night shift cause I hav things to do. by the end of the year I was so fed up with the job they kicked me out cause I didn't smile to the guests enough xD
I've always been a very good sleeper. But currently, I'm very overworked and it has affected my sleep. I wake up around 5.30 and can't fall back asleep, and only now do I realize how much lack of sleep affects your functioning: mental stability, memory, structure. So watching you go 50 hours without; I felt that. Your self doubt about falling asleep or not, getting cranky, feeling like things are surreal (being in a video game): it all shows how big a role sleep plays in our well being. I think sometimes we don't value it enough. Also kudos for going through this! XD
I’m an insomniac and regularly go days without sleeping. I’ve hallucinated regularly it’s mainly auditory where I hear two people having conversations as if they’re stood next to me I was once driving as I did call to call for work and had a micro sleep at a traffic light. I had to pull over to gather myself because I was so confused and out of it x
I did psychology a level and I can really appreciate the thought you put into this experiment. There's so many things to control in an experiment that people don't realise and watching this reminded me of being in psychology. Watching this to me makes me feel like you've studied psychology too?
I 100% did do psychology A-Level hahah, unfortunately I did it some time ago and forgot how to build a completely solid experiment ahaha
My mother is long dead, but I still enjoy hearing you say "give my kisses to your mother". Such a cute and sweet way to end your videos.
So when I was in college I went anywhere from 1 to 3 days without sleep. What I noticed consistently was after one full night without sleep the following day was very sleepy and not doing so hot. But after the next night without sleep waking up the second day I was oddly focused and somewhat awake for that day. So first day without sleep very tired, second day oddly awake focused and able to do things. Third day was the most messed up where started hearing things and seeing things that didn't exist and falling asleep randomly for brief periods of time.
Interestingly enough, I find that when I'm a bit sleep deprived I'm actually able to focus and react better to instinct based or relatively "mindless" tasks. I feel it probably has something to do with my ADHD and how on a normal basis my mind is so full of rapidly changing thoughts but when i'm tired everything just kind of slows down to just the essential thoughts.
This is wild because I experienced this! My testing was a lot better once I had been awake 24 hours. I don’t have an ADHD diagnosis, but I suspect I might have ADHD - so it’s really interesting you mention this!
I have the same! (Also ADHD).
The fact the Ellbat’s slowest typing score is still faster than I have ever typed
It’s crazy how healthcare workers do crap like this all the time and yet still be expected to care for people
I slept for 5 hours during the last 4 days of my master dissertation deadline. After the essay was submitted, I took a shower and the happiness of being able to sleep without worrying hit my numb brain slowly. I started crying. Nothing worth my sleep. Will never do it again.
I don't think you *should* do this again, but if you did...I'd recommend that the week before the experimental condition begins, do three of these test batteries each day, one in the morning, one mid day, and one in the evening so you can compare/correlate the experimental scores against a robust control data set and also see if your brain is just generally sharper at a specific time of day (with the same test battery you did this time around since you already have experience, maybe doing some sleep dep research to see what other cognitive functions you would expect to be impacted and what tests you could supplement in). Maybe even do all of that for an additional week beforehand so everything has equal practice behind it. And I'd also only do the tests every six hours for convenience unless there was some other data that led you to a 5 hour interval. Such a fascinating video! Part of me hopes it'll become a trend on youtube so we can do a big meta analysis but I've also watched enough youtube to not trust most people to do it correctly or safely sooo...
I do think it's fascinating that your aim test remained high throughout, even compared to test 2 data. It's like your brain shut down all the advanced cognitive functions in favor of pure survival functions. Like, B better be able to hit that tiger with a spear if push comes to shove lol
Though it was entirely unintentional or wanted, my ability to sleep quite literally turned off and I went a full 6 and a half days a few years back.
Here was my experience:
day 1: tired
day 2: very tired
day 3: too much energy
day 4: tired, but similar to late day 1. Random stuff in your peripheral vision might catch your alert/"something's there" senses
day 5: you forget what tired is. Every shadow you're not directly looking at is undeniably a person/creature until you try and focus in on it properly. I was told it's called seeing shadow people, and I agree.
day 6: delirium. High paranoia and arrhythmic heartbeat. Reaction times are abysmal and you stop being scared of the shadow people, as they're just accepted. You can *almost* focus on the shadow people before they return to being mundane objects/shadows.
day 6.5/7: you black out on the stairs and get found by your family apparently. Can't say I remember much of that 7th day at all though.
Sleep is important people, you don't want to go there.
Glad you survived this because it really sounds dangerous.
@@MMAli-rq8kd You and I both, wasn't in a good place at all then mentally so it could've gotten bad for sure.
Oh my god. I’m so sorry you had to experience that - I hope you’re ok 💜
@@Ellbat I am. Thanks for spreading some awareness of the struggles of us insomniacs!
Oh last time i lacked sleep I got bugs in my peripheral. Like ants and static
Did this in middle school and I got to the four day mark before I couldn't tell what was reality anymore or if I had fallen asleep. It just a constant fight to not sleep with every blink. Best advice is to stay active and not be idle or else you will feel more sleepy. I did this to test my limits. I really don't recommend it. You will feel like shit.
Edit: Eyesight will also decline as your eyes will not want to stay focus on one object. Reading will also be difficult. My body felt hot and cold all at once and you will feel weak.
I don't know how you managed! Once, I went on about 30hrs of no sleep... I got so cranky and delusional, definitely felt that "I'm in a videogame" sensation, it was horrible!
When I used to work doubles while giong to college full time The areas that suffered the most for me were coordination (so like hand eye and foot coordination) and problem solving that required 3d spaces. It would be interesting to see how other people do at this since an experiment like this would be a great way to show the safety issues people overlook (sleep deprivation is a major factor in car accidents, luckily I didn't have to drive in college). Thank you for doing this video!
I feel like doing hands on tests for motor skills and reaction times might really show the true difference. For motor skills I don’t have many ideas on what you could do but reaction time tests would be pretty easy. You could try dodging a stuffed animal being thrown at you, throw darts (the suction cup kinds so u don’t like accidentally hurt yourself) or a boot camp run in cod or another game where you just hit targets. You can make this controlled and do a set number of shots that you throw and just keep track of how many you miss. This was rlly cool!
Edit: after saying this I remembered the pacer tests in school PE. that would actually be funny to see and would probably show the differences in motor skills 😂
I keep getting new ideas for tests but also a racing game could show differences in motor skills and reaction times in one test but idk how you could record the results besides watching how you do in each race😂
Me "lets go to sleep earlier tonight"
Also me "lets watch a video on sleep deprivation while wasting the time I had for sleeping" 😂
I constantly micro sleep in class and I have professor who HATES when people sleep through lectures, I try my best to stay awake but my head is constantly lolling about and my mouth drops open and I swear I drool sometimes which is embarrassing to say the least... the most confusing and frustrating thing is I make sure to get enough hours of sleep beforehand and it even happens when people are talking directly to me 😭😭
If you are giving yourself enough time for 8hrs sleep and that's still happening then it definitely sounds like it's worth seeing a doctor about if at all possible. Your description of your experiences sound very similar to many of my classes from school through uni and I was diagnosed with narcolepsy so it's definitely not normal. To be clear I'm not saying you have narcolepsy from hearing this one thing just that if your experiences with micro sleeps sound so closes to mine you might well have some kind of sleep related issue that you'd benefit from getting diagnosed.
reading a book when you’re trying not to fall asleep sounds like a horrible idea 😂 nothing makes me fall asleep faster than attempting to read when i’m tired
the longest ive ever went without sleep was 4 full days. I had a massive uni deadline last year and I had so much stuff to cram in. It was not my intention to stay awake that long but I couldn't sleep, I felt so anxious, my heart rate was so intense. the anxiety was so bad i felt sick so i could barely eat, most of my calories over those days were from sugary drinks. I had mood swings, i had the urge to constantly be moving - either rocking back and forward or shaking my legs or flapping my hands, so then my muscles started hurting. my eyes were so tired and sore from basically staring at screens all that time.
in the last few hours i was awake i started having auditory and visual hallucinations, it was really quite scary. when i finally slept i only got about 5 hours and I remember having the exact same "video game" experience, i just didn't feel like i was actually in my own body it was really bizarre. it was an awful experience and I can barely bring myself to look at the work i did during that time. 0/5 star would not recommend
oh my god, im so sorry you experienced this - it sounds awful. I also started to experience visual hallucinations! In the highlights video from the stream on my other channel, theres a bit at the end where i talk about seeing lines on white walls like they had "veins". It was really unnerving.
I really hope you recovered and have managed to remain well rested!
updating my youtube recomendations and seeing one of your videos pop up is the best feeling in the world
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Sleep debt is real!! Especially REM, so when you slept 18 hours, it makes sense that you felt ok! (two days of no sleep, then 18/2 hours of sleep=9 hours of sleep between the two, or 6 for the three days) I'm taking AP psych in high school right now and plan on going into psychology and this was so interesting to me! We just did sleep so it's very cool seeing the effects of lack of REM and sleep in general on a real person~
As a psychology student, I'm really interested in this video! You did such a good job on educating people about sleep deprivation and how truly important it is to sleep. Your test results were better because of practice, as you said, so the tests aren't valid here, but that's not really important, because we can clearly see the effect of sleep deprivation in your stream, which is a great research method (observation). What you were feeling in the end (feeling as if you're in a video game) is called derealization, if you wanted to know.
The effort you put into this video is incredible! It really shows how you care about your viewers and the passion you have for UA-cam. Amazing work!
The micros sleeps part reminds me of high school. Like my dad had just died and I was was having a lot of anxiety and I couldn’t sleep and instead of maybe offering some help, most teachers would yell at me and embarrass me for falling asleep during class. I literally couldn’t help it. It was horrible. Just nodding off randomly.
This was so interesting and honestly kinda eye opening lol.. as basically everything you described you felt i feel on a daily basis.. so i think i need to start taking sleep more seriously than i have( even tho i have been trying, but my anxious adhd brain is not really making it easy unfortunetly)
Especially the thing you said about the guy forgetting what he was doing in the middle of doing it and you ending up talking about smth competely different and not even knowing what you were really talking about anymore.. i have that way too much.. but that might also just be my neurodiverse brain? or a combination? hard to say
But thank you! i love seeing these vidoes from you, they're very interesting and entertaining! (in an educational sense, i love learning about things)
Same! Take care of yourself, have a break if you need or see a psychologist/psychiatrist. (i myself have adhd too ;))
@@NietzzTube Thank you! Tho idk how much more of a break i can have when i'm at home all day cause i can't work or go to a school 😅 and i have had a psychiatrist for quite a few years now but sadly i'm quite intolerent to medicine so i get a lot of side effects on most but whenever i've stopped taking meds it gets worse so not easy to figure out
@@Enaevy ahh, take care, hope you find a way to build your life in a manner that suits/helps with your anxious adhd brain. Hugs!
The longest I’ve ever gone without sleep is 36 hours, and just that was absolutely agonizing. I had a headache, could barely concentrate, and no matter how much melatonin I took I just wouldn’t fall asleep.
I went through serious sleep deprivation when my soon was baby, plus I had undiagnosed sleep apnea. I should not have been allowed to drive; I fell asleep at red lights and had very poor reaction times. I was very lucky we didn't get into any accidents.
Hi, Elle! I am just wondering if you are alright, you haven't posted any videos since this one, and I have been missing your crazy yet clever and witty style :) I hope everything's alright with you :)
I pulled consecutive all nighters to finish a very big final piece for an art project in school. I lasted about two and a half days. The struggle to just stay conscious was unreal
btw, i kinda expected you would take again the tests after sleeping so you would be with the experience/practice and without sleep deprivation. that would've made the best results. i'm 100% certain about it. and that would contrast with the results after 50 hours without sleep.
!!!!! Yess! Having a kinda control !!!
I've been up for two or three days straight before for no reason? It was like it was harder for me to get to sleep the more tired I was. But yea after you sleep that first time and wake up, and you haven't gotten enough sleep yet to get back to 0, you still feel so dissociated. And the sleep is terrible too. It's not restful at all even though it's a relief.
My longest time awake was 116 hours - by the end I was having auditory hallucinations. Nothing too scary, it just sounded like people were having conversations slightly out of earshot. I thought someone called my name a few times too, but no-one did. It wasn’t an experiment though, just a period of severe insomnia.
Me too, I had auditory hallucinations after staying awake over 50 hours on 2 occasions. It felt like someone was whispering in my ear
Thank you for surviving sleep deprivation for us Ellbat!! 🙇♀️
I worked nightshift security for 2 years. I've since been made day shift supervisor with another company and I won't go back to nights for any money. I never slept properly and was always trying to switch my body clock. Looking back on it I was in a very bad place mentally. The effects of sleep deprivation is severely underestimated.
I can’t even stay awake through school 💀
I slept for four to five hours each night for an entire semester and it completely broke that ability for me. I can do it like once a month or something, but usually my body will just take 7 to 8 hours and ignore any kind of alarm that’s going off.
It’s kinda nice, but also had me do too much cardio to catch trains too many times.
with my newborn in the hospital, I had complications and they wouldn't help me with him. I went 72h without sleeping, and I just would have done about anything for sleep. I didn't want anyone to touch my baby, nor let him leave my arms but I couldn't speak properly or think enough to respond to nurses. that's where they saw there was a problem with me and they convinced me to take him so I could sleep. I slept 3 hours and was discharged cause even with my complications they knew I'd probably have more recovery time at home than stuck in maternity ward with other delivery patients and a bunch of babies
oh my gosh Ell, please be so careful. Very interesting video but you can't undo any damage done by certain videos like this. Always put you health first, but like I said still a really interesting video! Sending you lots of love :) xxx
I had insomnia for most of my life, but it was nothing compared to when I went psychotic due to lack of sleep. Due to anxiety and being away from home for the first time - college - I didn't sleep for ten days straight and I went psychotic because of it. It took months - several months - to recover from the psychosis completely. Many people can't remember the things that happened both in the physical world and in their minds when they were in a state of psychosis. I remember. It was awful. HELL. The scariest thing that's ever happened to me. This happened in 2017, but I still remember. Everything. And now, here I am, no longer living with insomnia being on sleep medication, and graduating next month. Typing all this out, it just seems crazy, really. I'm graduating from the very thing that made me go crazy - literally, psychotic - college.