I’m not tight when it comes to camping gear as I want to be as comfortable as possible when camping but I do think there are certain things you should spend money on and other things can be “bargain bin” items . I paid $10 Australian dollars for a jet boil type stove I’ve been using for over 5 years and it does the job just as well as friends who have a Jet boil . Each to their own, the most important thing is getting out and enjoying nature.
My initial thought is that JetBoil was the first to the market with this technology. It seems to be an efficient solution, compared to stoves without a heat exchanger. Others followed and their burners produce similar results. We would have to dig deeper into durability of materials to reach a conclusion of what brand was worth what money.
Been a user of it for over a decade. I believe Jetboil were the first with that design and then lots followed. I have made thousands of brews with mine. Bought a smaller one last year because i like them. At the end of the day.....they boil water. Many other things do too. Lovers and loathers out there. Just make a brew. 🙂
I have 2, the mini and the stash. Brilliant, buy once, last for years. Very gas efficient, that's why I use them. Superquick. Simple. The Stash is the best, all in one, compact.
I have to agree with you Dan, I'm sure it's just the JetBoil name that's the selling point. I have to confess I bought one recently from Millets when they had a closing down sale and they were reduced from £105 to £65. I got a further 10% discount with a voucher but it doesn't do anything different from an old stove i had previously that I paid £12 on eBay second hand. Great honest video again. Cheers
Dan purchased my jetboil flash new in 2015, It is in constant use everyday fantastc piece of kit. The olly thing i have replaced in that time is the burner available on e, bay and user replaceable. Highly recommended and will buy another one without a doubt.
I’ve got the Planet X jet boil paid £25 when it was on offer came with canister holder pan attachment never let me down and it all fits in bag comes with
I've got the Jobsworth and have been happy with it. The only issue is the cover on the pot has burnt slightly with the heat. Has yours done the same and do you know if you can get a replacement?
If it makes the difference between carrying a second gas canister on a multi day camp it might be worthwhile. I have never used a jetboil but from what I have heard they can’t be adjusted for intensity of flame so you can’t simmer, basically only good for boiling water. When I camp it is pretty much always on motorcycle trips so while weight and volume carried is of some concern it isn’t as critical as when backpacking.
Most of the comments are really about, how long they last. I’ve had mine for over 10 years and it still works as well as it did when it was new, I’m not sure the Chinese copies will still be going strong after 10 years of abuse, but, until mine breaks, I’ll still stick with it. Good video though mate.
I have a Jetboil Zip which is the smallest and cheapest in their range. Love it because it’s never let me down, everything I need for a brew is contained within the package and it’s quick to give me a mug full of boiling water for a cup of hot chocolate on a freezing winter’s day. I can cut up some raw veg and boil them up - pair those with some cold meat cuts and I have a plateful of fresh food. One of the small cans of gas, 100g, lasts a week away cycle camping. I like plain things and the Zip is just black. Other stoves like the OEX are laity in their colours and make my head hurt 😁
We got one YEARS ago and it cost nothing like that. The idea was to leave it in the car for emergency drinks if stuck in snow in the winter ... you must now how bad Bradford city centre gets :) The compact nature of the beast was it's main selling point but, if truth be known, we haven't actually used it.
Ive had jet boil for 10 years ok only thing lid cracked with age used at least 50 times a year ,just bought firemaple similar thing bit bigger volume just same ,
I've never been to impressed with these. I feel they are just for boiling water. They have a much to narrow flame to heat a frying pan evenly. Besides they are very noisy. I much prefer a Firebox g2 twig stove or a trangia spirit burner. They may not be as fast, but they are much more quiet and going camping is not a race! It's all about having a great time! Thank you for sharing!👊🏻
That's why they have other stoves in the range lol the flash it for boiling water quick so u can make a brew or put cook in the bag hydrated or even non hydrated bags in in minutes, they also have the mini mo with a fully working regulator so can simmer or cook with the pan attachment I use both when I'm away in my lorry for a quick brew or butty and I also have a ninja air fryer and a kettle in my lorry... gues what gets used the most.... for camping and tramping in my lorry?
I would of liked to try one of these but never really thought the price was justified Dan, i have always used a small gas cooker and tin cup to make a brew or heat food and have been very happy, i have used the same setup for over thirty years, i feel it is far more stable as low to the ground and if i should run out of gas or the cooker fails i can just carry on with a small stick fire or the British Army Hexamine stove i always carry as a back up, your channel is brill mate and always right on point, good job Dan and all the best, Ste.
I found jetboils back in 2008 .. they are light self contained and fits into a webbing water bottle pouch along with kfs and boil in the bag .. I take it everywhere ..
Definitely some good points made here! I've been contemplating which stove to buy, and jetboil seems like one of the best options, but the 'new' price tag certainly makes me gawp! One thing i have noticed though, is the range of great-looking accesories for the jetboil. In particular the coffee press- a press which is used directly into the stove. Some of the accessories are also very expensive though. Overall i think it often comes down to budget (or finding a cheap deal!), and how much you can really afford to sacrifice with space for additional accessories!
I've got 3 different jetboils, minimo, zip and sumo titanium......as well as other stoves like msr pocket rocket and meths stoves. The best thing about jetboils is the efficiency....a 100g gas canister lasts a lot longer than my other/previous gas stoves. Also, jetboil were the first company to make this style of stove, everyone else copied them. That doesn't mean other stoves aren't good, but jetboil are the original and also have good after sales service, you can buy spare parts for them, I bet not many cheaper brands do that.
Hi Dan i have never had a jetboil fail on me. What is also worth consideration is any future value. I had a jetboil flash for about 7 years, and sold it for £50 on Ebay and then bought a Minimo for £107, so got a brand new jetboil for only an additional £57. An OEX Hierro would be worth pennies after 5 or 6 years
@@englishwoodsman definetly, but also its brand reputation for being reliable and a quality product. Amazon is full of cheap burners that will boil.your water, but most will fail within 12 months, and dodgy igniters are one of the most common problems
I use my jetboil for my long hikes but I use mostly my MSR pocket rocket for wildcamping and other things. I can't fault the Jet boil but you do still need a wind shield when it is windy. For budget other stoves would do the same function I can't justify the price. Thanx Dan . Love your honesty. Take care
I have a jetboil. What i have found is that it is very efficient and very quick to boil. But i have got bored with it. The only reason is it boils water too quick. I enjoy boiling my water and watching nature tv do it. When i'm out walking i take a flask, occasionally my jet boil for a quick brew, but overall its a quick way to fill my flask before night or my water bottle. Sometimes people miss the point of making a brew in the outdoors. Cant beat burning a few twigs with a metal mug. :)
Today on top of mount Hotham in Australia in the snow. My little jet boil mini mo did a great job. Hot coffees all round. It’s all about preference. Some people get sucked in to all the brand name hype. Truth is, any butane stove boils water. However if you were in a situation where your life depended on boiling that water……. Which stove would you rather have ???
I was so lucky buying my Jetboil Flash a few years ago, the major retailer had priced it incorrectly on the epos system, I took it to the till fingers crossed and got it brand new for 35 quid, at least a 50 quid saving. I used mine a lot, it's a good bit of kit but just recently I've started using a GSI cookset with a MSR Pocket Rocket only because its more compact for bikepacking.
TBH I got the first Jetboil back in the day the PCS as it called back then and circa. 2007 and it cost £70 , it was the only type on the market at the time, I used the original for well over a decade then ive since got the flash and the MiniMo but the one I use the most is the FireMaple X2, I like the fold out handle and the fact you can fit an 300g gas cart and its accessories all inside the stove, also the X2 can fit 2 ration pack meals inside at once. Oh and it only cost £25 new....about 7 years ago.
Never used one. I just did an 86km hike but I was using a Toaks titanium 750ml pot, 77g Coleman F1 stove and a gas bottle. In all it’s quite light and very space saving as it all fits inside (except a 230g gas bottle). One day I may try but at the moment I can’t see the need or expense. Quite honestly my Coleman F1 at 77g and 4800W is the best stove I have used. It comes apart in 2 pieces and fits inside a closed fist. That’s more than good enough for boiling under the time of the jetboil.
Another thing I can see is with that color changer you can use it to cook things cooler like tea that shouldn't be as hot as coffee and or just to warm up milk
I think it's a good piece of kit and if your going to use it alot then maybe worth the money but I know a good few people that have got into bushcraft and camping and gone out shopping and got all the best stuff because they think that makes them seem good to other people and it is nice to have nice kit but I think too many people get caught up in the kit but forget about having the skill but if people are new to this sort of stuff don't let not having the best kit get in your way of enjoying the outdoors and just want to say your doing an excellent job with your channel nice one man 👍 ✌
Hi Dan defo the name your paying for ,I’ve got the Coleman fyrestorm 39 quid from go outdoors does the same job mate think they are all round about the same boil time or thereabouts and why the hurry to boil some water as long as they do the job that’s the main thing for me never been fussed about how long it takes thanks for the video mate your an honest man 👍👌❤️
Great video Dan, I have 3 different types of Jetboil and they are all fantastic. The build quality is much better than cheaper makes. I also have a Jobsworth x2 stove which cost me £30 a few years ago and it works very well too. When you compare like for like the Jetboil is the better stove but what let’s the Jetboil down is the price. The quality isn’t that much better to justify a price double or triple the price of other similar stoves. I have noticed that other stoves of the same quality as the Jetboil are very expensive too, MSR Windburner is around the same price as the Jetboil Flash. I guess it’s a case of what you can afford and what you need the stove for.
Hi Dan , I cant see the fuss about Jetboil stuff , a Cheap one would be just as good ! .🙂, I just use my Trangia for everything , and the Twig stove for Heat .👍
I have had my Jetboil for about a decade. The only time that I find it the most useful to me is in temps below -3 or so celsius. Then it is a lot faster than my other stoves. In warmer weather, I really don't care about the stove speed. There are now several knock-offs that are cheaper.
Hi Dan, I bought the oex tacana stove set for 35 quid after watching your vid before your giveaway great but of kit boils 750 ml in less than 3 minutes it's now 75 quid in go outdoors with membership
Jetboil was the first to utilise heat exchanger technology however that was many moons ago and now the competition is available at all price points when Jetboil first launched the premium was justified in today’s market though it’s a different story there’s no difference to a cheaper alternative apart from the jet boil name and marketing continuing to push sales a plus to the Jetboil the skillet is amazing but again at £50 for a frying pan is it really worth it, just to throw a spanner in the works the MSR Windburner really is a top notch bit of kit in terms of performance in wind it really is next level performance, however again like you say is it worth the hyper inflated price and is it really worth it when a £40 stove will boil water in most scenarios in a similar timeframe. High end there’s also the MSR reactor but I can’t personally comment on its performance as I don’t own one.
And the msr windburner set runs usually alot more I think jetboil are fairly high quality to be honest and I have a bunch of stoves and alcohol burners
If you're on a 7 day hike with one gas canister then maybe a slightly faster boil is worth it? But for me the new OEX Heiro is all I need from a gas stove and they're much cheaper.
I always wanted a Jetboil but couldn't justify the high price of them. So then a few months ago you recommended the OEX Hiero stove. After reading other reviews on it I went over to Go Outdoors in Wakefield and bought it. Having now used the OEX stove about 20 times I can't see what all the fuss of Jetboils is about. My stove boils 400mils of water in just over 2 minutes, and this has been consistant over the last couple of months. Brand loyalty is one thing, but why pay twice as much for something that does the same thing, makes no sense, particularly in this day and age..........
I think it's important to keep in mind that the Jetboil was first with this technology, all the others are essentially copies, so obviously they're all very similar. With that in mind, there's nothing else special about it. The Jetboil Flash 2 is a little quicker (apparently) but who's in a rush when camping? The heat indicator goes orange well before water is actually boiled, so no real use a lot of the time. Thankfully I got my Jetboil Flash 2.0 for a similar price to the OEX Heiro, as I'm not sure it's really worth the RRP. But then again, it is their technology, they put all of the design and research into it, of course those who've copied it don't have that historic expense to work into the pricing, so maybe it is justified.
Dan, It’s just snobbery. I bought some Nike Air trainers, back in the 80’s. But they didn’t make me run any faster! People can have the named gear, but still have no idea! It’s not what you’ve got, it’s how you use it. Stay safe mate
I bought a JetBoil look-a-like from PlanetX for less than £30. It's been fine for past 3 years - no issues with quality. The JetBoil might be a tad lighter and maybe has a slightly better finish but the cheap version is plenty good enough. Dan - it's an interesting question though. My oldest Trangia is now 46 years old. It's as good as new and I am glad I bought it despite the premium price. Some times it's worth paying for the original product and they pay for themselves over time, but I don't think that is the case with the JetBoil.
The difference is that jetboil were the first to introduce the heat exchanger and then put a price on it. Everyone else has then copied it and put a cheaper price on it. Every other product that uses the same heat exchanger will be as good as but at a cheaper price
ive had mine for about 8yr, i actually got it free when i signed up to 6mth of trail magazine :-D. I love how sturdy it is and its wicked on gas, mine last about 4/5 days, but my BRS lasts about 2 days. Not sure if actually pay the full price for a jet boil though its a crazy prize to boil water esp so so many other brands just like it
I have a jetboil ,im not big on brands, but I do like it , but I think it's more that my wife bought it as a present , I never thought that I that I would own one because of the price
I got a firemaple polaris for my Christmas from my Grandad and i used it last month for the first time and the rubber gasket broke on first use and now won’t let gas through and i don’t have the heart to tell him so i pretended it was great and now just use my flask again.
Well the difference is they are the originals and obviously did alot of r,n,d to make em I got one for the missus and they do boil quicker than my soto amicus and msr pocket rocket
Does it depend on how many days you will be on trail? A jet boil uses about 4-5 grams per boil. A Pocket rocket uses about 10 grams of fuel per boil. How many boils are you going to do a day. If 3 boils a day you will need to bring the bigger fuel canister with a pocket rocket or you will run out before your trip is over. This equals more weight and more expense. So, what should you do? Figure out how many boils you will do a day X how many days will you be out. This will tell you how to be most efficient (not considering price) as over the life of a jet boil it will be less expensive in fuel cost by many times the price difference of a er boil. Better yet - pick the system you like best and enjoy the backcountry!!
The only possible difference I can imagine might be IF the Jetboil had a micro regulator, not sure if it has/has not. Then when you are cooking using a normal pot it would be easier to simmer and you would still get and regular flame when your gas cannister was running low on gas. The other possibility would be size and how well it packs away, thinking about space in the backpack.
hi dan jetboil style stoves are good .but not for everyone .i dont use them because i find then unstable and too high to use safely in a small tent .great concept never the less 👍
So one of the key differences is during adverse conditions it does apparently perform quicker but but but…. The lid on mine warped after around 20 boils and then obviously become mad inefficient cause of the heat loss at the top 🤷🏼♂️ swings and round abouts I suppose
I have had the Jetboil Zip for ages, a good size set up for a quick brew. After a while I decided to get a bigger set, but I thought the price was a bit high so I got a similar one made by Highlander. My opinion for what it's worth is that the heat exchanger pots are no different between the brands. The neoprene sleeves on the Jetboil, are much better quality, and the burner unit is much more powerful compared to the cheaper stove. Overall the Jetboil performs better, and feels a better quality product. I heard you say that you didn't like comparing different systems, but you are in a unique position seeing as you have a few different types of stoves. I'd be interested in your views after a few months testing the Jetboil. All the best Mally
Total agree with you I would have got a cheaper brand but got a jet boil of my mate for free but do a real test with a cheaper one next to each other see what the real difference is
I have a campmaster brand and find it does the same job as the jet oil it takes an extra 1 min 30secs to boil that’s the only difference apart from the price
at the end of the day if the stove you use , build water and cooks food how you want it , it doesn't have to be branded , over the years camping on sites we've tried branded v non branded and there has really been little difference , other than cost , interested to see what you have planned
Hi Daniel hope your all good. Love your videos, you have got me back into camping. I have a suggestion for you if you fancy something a little different for your content? I have a SIB (inflatable boat with engine) I want to get on the water and do some wild camps! If your interested then let me know. Boat is licensed for lake Windermere and most uk rivers. Would love to do Loch Lomond and camp on the island and find the wallabies. I don’t want to put my phone number or email on here but if you want to chat more then I’m sure we can find a way 👍🏻 Happy for you to use camera etc, let me know your thoughts Dave
That's the old version I think, my jetboil flash 2 boils a pot in 100 seconds, the newer ones can hold a low simmer flame aswel , i payed 80 quid for my new jetboil flash 2 with a 100g tin of gas , I think the oex one is just as good but half the price I can fry a couple if eggs in 2-3 minutes with my little ali skillet pan aswel 😂
Hey Dan, can you advise on your best sleep systems for someone that really feels the cold? Not sure if it's buying more than one sleep mat/SIM and layering them?
I'm sure there great bit of kit but the price has always put me off. I've never been in that much of a hurry to have a brew and I enjoy the whole process of having a cuppa. Plus they don't arf make a racket, my trangia dosent scare away a the wildlife.
I love my jetboil Dan its decent boils a litre of water in about a minute, I've not tried other brands and that but it's served me well, p.s living in Scotland it's seen me alright in our gusty rainy conditions 😂
I do understand that Jetboil were the first to design and make these type of cook kits and the R&D aswell as quality of materials and warranty all come as a premium. But alot of other companies that have copied the design have maybe used cheaper components to bring them to the market cheaper. I suppose its how much you are willing to pay and will the Jetboil last twice as long as a product at half the price? I think there maybe some middle ground with the likes of MSR, Soto or Alpkit etc. Due to my personal budget I went for the Jobsworth (pre recalled model) and it has been fine for the last 3 years.
Jet boil were designed for a way to get a quick boil on the move maybe not for everyone but still one of the best systems out there if you’re on the move ask anyone who’s maybe military or more extreme movers can’t all be wrong
Just got back from camping with the family.. it’s a lot of effort and a lot of stuff to pack un pack. Do you have any smaller tents to give away so I can just go off on my own for the night and do a minimal solo camp?
My cousin had a jetboil and after watching me with my OEX Tacana, he bought one and he uses it all the time now and preferes it to the jetboil. All about the branding, unless you need your water 30- 40 seconds quicker😂😂😂
I have a prototype Jetboil. Cant adjust the flame. It's only a coffee maker in my load out these days. They do own that quick as fudge boil though. It's called jet for a reason. But yes it's not the best. OEX is just as good.
@@englishwoodsman im in no rush to boil i go out and enjoy where i am im content i couldnt do what you do too much like hard work but i do watch all ya vids from start to finish
never owned a jetboil or a generic counterpart.. I understand the concept but when I'm in camping I an not in a terrific rush. At least nothing my standard gas stoves won't handle for me. That said I can see myself picking one up at a good price if only to satisfy my curiosity...lol
I have ditched the jetboil and use a titanium mug with soto wind master, if I don't want a boil in bag meal. Jetboil is good quality to be fair but too expensive. They probably charge a extra 20% just for name.
One of these or similar to one of these is on my list I have started to do peddle bicking with my daughter up and down the canal and I stop a fair few times as she gets tired (she's 7)❤ and would be nice to have a brew and 5 mums why she has a rest I have a twig stove atm but it's not quite practical for the job really
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I’m not tight when it comes to camping gear as I want to be as comfortable as possible when camping but I do think there are certain things you should spend money on and other things can be “bargain bin” items . I paid $10 Australian dollars for a jet boil type stove I’ve been using for over 5 years and it does the job just as well as friends who have a Jet boil . Each to their own, the most important thing is getting out and enjoying nature.
My initial thought is that JetBoil was the first to the market with this technology. It seems to be an efficient solution, compared to stoves without a heat exchanger. Others followed and their burners produce similar results. We would have to dig deeper into durability of materials to reach a conclusion of what brand was worth what money.
Thank you for watching
Been a user of it for over a decade. I believe Jetboil were the first with that design and then lots followed. I have made thousands of brews with mine. Bought a smaller one last year because i like them. At the end of the day.....they boil water. Many other things do too. Lovers and loathers out there. Just make a brew. 🙂
I have 2, the mini and the stash. Brilliant, buy once, last for years. Very gas efficient, that's why I use them. Superquick. Simple. The Stash is the best, all in one, compact.
I have to agree with you Dan, I'm sure it's just the JetBoil name that's the selling point. I have to confess I bought one recently from Millets when they had a closing down sale and they were reduced from £105 to £65. I got a further 10% discount with a voucher but it doesn't do anything different from an old stove i had previously that I paid £12 on eBay second hand. Great honest video again. Cheers
I think its more about the name 100%
Used mine nearly everyday at work for about 3 years!
Never skipped a beat, still best unit on the market i would say 👍
Dan purchased my jetboil flash new in 2015, It is in constant use everyday fantastc piece of kit. The olly thing i have replaced in that time is the burner available on e, bay and user replaceable.
Highly recommended and will buy another one without a doubt.
I’ve got the Planet X jet boil paid £25 when it was on offer came with canister holder pan attachment never let me down and it all fits in bag comes with
Sound great
I've got the Jobsworth and have been happy with it. The only issue is the cover on the pot has burnt slightly with the heat. Has yours done the same and do you know if you can get a replacement?
I have the large one works great just took a while to get rid of the plastic smell but 25 quid well worth it
If it makes the difference between carrying a second gas canister on a multi day camp it might be worthwhile. I have never used a jetboil but from what I have heard they can’t be adjusted for intensity of flame so you can’t simmer, basically only good for boiling water. When I camp it is pretty much always on motorcycle trips so while weight and volume carried is of some concern it isn’t as critical as when backpacking.
Most of the comments are really about, how long they last. I’ve had mine for over 10 years and it still works as well as it did when it was new, I’m not sure the Chinese copies will still be going strong after 10 years of abuse, but, until mine breaks, I’ll still stick with it. Good video though mate.
I have a Jetboil Zip which is the smallest and cheapest in their range. Love it because it’s never let me down, everything I need for a brew is contained within the package and it’s quick to give me a mug full of boiling water for a cup of hot chocolate on a freezing winter’s day. I can cut up some raw veg and boil them up - pair those with some cold meat cuts and I have a plateful of fresh food. One of the small cans of gas, 100g, lasts a week away cycle camping. I like plain things and the Zip is just black. Other stoves like the OEX are laity in their colours and make my head hurt 😁
We got one YEARS ago and it cost nothing like that. The idea was to leave it in the car for emergency drinks if stuck in snow in the winter ... you must now how bad Bradford city centre gets :) The compact nature of the beast was it's main selling point but, if truth be known, we haven't actually used it.
Ive had jet boil for 10 years ok only thing lid cracked with age used at least 50 times a year ,just bought firemaple similar thing bit bigger volume just same ,
Think it was 10 years just going off time me n wife separated
I've never been to impressed with these. I feel they are just for boiling water. They have a much to narrow flame to heat a frying pan evenly. Besides they are very noisy. I much prefer a Firebox g2 twig stove or a trangia spirit burner. They may not be as fast, but they are much more quiet and going camping is not a race! It's all about having a great time! Thank you for sharing!👊🏻
I love twig stove 🤣
That's why they have other stoves in the range lol the flash it for boiling water quick so u can make a brew or put cook in the bag hydrated or even non hydrated bags in in minutes, they also have the mini mo with a fully working regulator so can simmer or cook with the pan attachment I use both when I'm away in my lorry for a quick brew or butty and I also have a ninja air fryer and a kettle in my lorry... gues what gets used the most.... for camping and tramping in my lorry?
I totally agree mate twig stoves are great I even enjoy getting the twigs sorted and the fact that the fuel is free ♨👍
I would of liked to try one of these but never really thought the price was justified Dan, i have always used a small gas cooker and tin cup to make a brew or heat food and have been very happy, i have used the same setup for over thirty years, i feel it is far more stable as low to the ground and if i should run out of gas or the cooker fails i can just carry on with a small stick fire or the British Army Hexamine stove i always carry as a back up, your channel is brill mate and always right on point, good job Dan and all the best, Ste.
I found jetboils back in 2008 .. they are light self contained and fits into a webbing water bottle pouch along with kfs and boil in the bag .. I take it everywhere ..
Jetboils are brill, specially if you want s quick brew. Used in the army for ages and when hiking for a few days.
Definitely some good points made here! I've been contemplating which stove to buy, and jetboil seems like one of the best options, but the 'new' price tag certainly makes me gawp!
One thing i have noticed though, is the range of great-looking accesories for the jetboil. In particular the coffee press- a press which is used directly into the stove. Some of the accessories are also very expensive though.
Overall i think it often comes down to budget (or finding a cheap deal!), and how much you can really afford to sacrifice with space for additional accessories!
I've got 3 different jetboils, minimo, zip and sumo titanium......as well as other stoves like msr pocket rocket and meths stoves. The best thing about jetboils is the efficiency....a 100g gas canister lasts a lot longer than my other/previous gas stoves. Also, jetboil were the first company to make this style of stove, everyone else copied them. That doesn't mean other stoves aren't good, but jetboil are the original and also have good after sales service, you can buy spare parts for them, I bet not many cheaper brands do that.
Hi Dan i have never had a jetboil fail on me. What is also worth consideration is any future value.
I had a jetboil flash for about 7 years, and sold it for £50 on Ebay and then bought a Minimo for £107, so got a brand new jetboil for only an additional £57.
An OEX Hierro would be worth pennies after 5 or 6 years
So it's the name that's holding the price
I’ve still got my ! 6:13 stove from the 70s , works great , very best !
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@@englishwoodsman definetly, but also its brand reputation for being reliable and a quality product. Amazon is full of cheap burners that will boil.your water, but most will fail within 12 months, and dodgy igniters are one of the most common problems
I use my jetboil for my long hikes but I use mostly my MSR pocket rocket for wildcamping and other things. I can't fault the Jet boil but you do still need a wind shield when it is windy. For budget other stoves would do the same function I can't justify the price. Thanx Dan . Love your honesty. Take care
Had one since they first came out. Never failed me.
I've still got my 2nd gen Jetboil. I use it mainly as a kettle and my 25 year old Trangia 27 as my main stove
surely trangia is king what's the rush your outdoors enjoy the time and the silence
Time means nothing when outdoors to me
so boil time doesn't matter@@englishwoodsman
I have a jetboil. What i have found is that it is very efficient and very quick to boil. But i have got bored with it. The only reason is it boils water too quick. I enjoy boiling my water and watching nature tv do it. When i'm out walking i take a flask, occasionally my jet boil for a quick brew, but overall its a quick way to fill my flask before night or my water bottle. Sometimes people miss the point of making a brew in the outdoors. Cant beat burning a few twigs with a metal mug. :)
Today on top of mount Hotham in Australia in the snow. My little jet boil mini mo did a great job. Hot coffees all round.
It’s all about preference. Some people get sucked in to all the brand name hype. Truth is, any butane stove boils water.
However if you were in a situation where your life depended on boiling that water……. Which stove would you rather have ???
I was so lucky buying my Jetboil Flash a few years ago, the major retailer had priced it incorrectly on the epos system, I took it to the till fingers crossed and got it brand new for 35 quid, at least a 50 quid saving. I used mine a lot, it's a good bit of kit but just recently I've started using a GSI cookset with a MSR Pocket Rocket only because its more compact for bikepacking.
TBH I got the first Jetboil back in the day the PCS as it called back then and circa. 2007 and it cost £70 , it was the only type on the market at the time, I used the original for well over a decade then ive since got the flash and the MiniMo but the one I use the most is the FireMaple X2, I like the fold out handle and the fact you can fit an 300g gas cart and its accessories all inside the stove, also the X2 can fit 2 ration pack meals inside at once. Oh and it only cost £25 new....about 7 years ago.
So so flash, again I've been using jetboil for as long as and I love them...
I have one, it says 3 min to boil water, I timed it 7 mins is wat it took. I use it camping YET I still prefer my whistling kettle
Thanks for watching
Never used one. I just did an 86km hike but I was using a Toaks titanium 750ml pot, 77g Coleman F1 stove and a gas bottle. In all it’s quite light and very space saving as it all fits inside (except a 230g gas bottle). One day I may try but at the moment I can’t see the need or expense.
Quite honestly my Coleman F1 at 77g and 4800W is the best stove I have used. It comes apart in 2 pieces and fits inside a closed fist. That’s more than good enough for boiling under the time of the jetboil.
If u turn the pot stand when u put it on it locks in place another great video dan keep bein a legend
If I was to get another jetboil, it would be a minimo. Having a regulator would be a big advantage.
Another thing I can see is with that color changer you can use it to cook things cooler like tea that shouldn't be as hot as coffee and or just to warm up milk
I think it's a good piece of kit and if your going to use it alot then maybe worth the money but I know a good few people that have got into bushcraft and camping and gone out shopping and got all the best stuff because they think that makes them seem good to other people and it is nice to have nice kit but I think too many people get caught up in the kit but forget about having the skill but if people are new to this sort of stuff don't let not having the best kit get in your way of enjoying the outdoors and just want to say your doing an excellent job with your channel nice one man 👍 ✌
Hi Dan. ⛺️ ❤They look cool.would love to get into camping, ⛺️ but it would have to be 🔥 🔥 🔥 for me to camp overnight😂😂as I'm always 🥶 freezing.😂😂
I love a campfire
Hi Dan defo the name your paying for ,I’ve got the Coleman fyrestorm 39 quid from go outdoors does the same job mate think they are all round about the same boil time or thereabouts and why the hurry to boil some water as long as they do the job that’s the main thing for me never been fussed about how long it takes thanks for the video mate your an honest man 👍👌❤️
Good review again Dan 👍 do you do any tips tricks and handy hints Dan
Great video Dan, I have 3 different types of Jetboil and they are all fantastic. The build quality is much better than cheaper makes. I also have a Jobsworth x2 stove which cost me £30 a few years ago and it works very well too. When you compare like for like the Jetboil is the better stove but what let’s the Jetboil down is the price. The quality isn’t that much better to justify a price double or triple the price of other similar stoves. I have noticed that other stoves of the same quality as the Jetboil are very expensive too, MSR Windburner is around the same price as the Jetboil Flash. I guess it’s a case of what you can afford and what you need the stove for.
Hi Dan , I cant see the fuss about Jetboil stuff , a Cheap one would be just as good ! .🙂, I just use my Trangia for everything , and the Twig stove for Heat .👍
Hi Bob 👋 👋
I have had my Jetboil for about a decade. The only time that I find it the most useful to me is in temps below -3 or so celsius. Then it is a lot faster than my other stoves. In warmer weather, I really don't care about the stove speed. There are now several knock-offs that are cheaper.
Hi Dan, I bought the oex tacana stove set for 35 quid after watching your vid before your giveaway great but of kit boils 750 ml in less than 3 minutes it's now 75 quid in go outdoors with membership
I have a jetboil. Goes with me on every camp.
Jetboil was the first to utilise heat exchanger technology however that was many moons ago and now the competition is available at all price points when Jetboil first launched the premium was justified in today’s market though it’s a different story there’s no difference to a cheaper alternative apart from the jet boil name and marketing continuing to push sales a plus to the Jetboil the skillet is amazing but again at £50 for a frying pan is it really worth it, just to throw a spanner in the works the MSR Windburner really is a top notch bit of kit in terms of performance in wind it really is next level performance, however again like you say is it worth the hyper inflated price and is it really worth it when a £40 stove will boil water in most scenarios in a similar timeframe. High end there’s also the MSR reactor but I can’t personally comment on its performance as I don’t own one.
Idk i think it might be faster than my maple stove sytem but i dont blast the gass keep up the good content
And the msr windburner set runs usually alot more I think jetboil are fairly high quality to be honest and I have a bunch of stoves and alcohol burners
Thank you for watching
OEX Heiro Solo Stove seems like a good option, currently on offer at Blacks.
I got the msr windbunner, good! but I think for the money maybe a jetboil would be a better buy
Thank you for watching
I got the jetboil micromo and oex heiro and that gives the jetboil a run for it’s money definitely
If you're on a 7 day hike with one gas canister then maybe a slightly faster boil is worth it? But for me the new OEX Heiro is all I need from a gas stove and they're much cheaper.
I do like my jetboil for when I’m absolutely desperate for a coffee in the morning, but using the gas burner option in my trangia isn’t much slower.
Nice to see you comment thankyou
I have a jetboil and love it but then again I’ve never had the OEX version so couldn’t compare
I got one too and it's been to Afghanistan twice!! Clicker no longer works though.
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I always wanted a Jetboil but couldn't justify the high price of them. So then a few months ago you recommended the OEX Hiero stove. After reading other reviews on it I went over to Go Outdoors in Wakefield and bought it.
Having now used the OEX stove about 20 times I can't see what all the fuss of Jetboils is about. My stove boils 400mils of water in just over 2 minutes, and this has been consistant over the last couple of months.
Brand loyalty is one thing, but why pay twice as much for something that does the same thing, makes no sense, particularly in this day and age..........
I think it's important to keep in mind that the Jetboil was first with this technology, all the others are essentially copies, so obviously they're all very similar.
With that in mind, there's nothing else special about it. The Jetboil Flash 2 is a little quicker (apparently) but who's in a rush when camping? The heat indicator goes orange well before water is actually boiled, so no real use a lot of the time.
Thankfully I got my Jetboil Flash 2.0 for a similar price to the OEX Heiro, as I'm not sure it's really worth the RRP. But then again, it is their technology, they put all of the design and research into it, of course those who've copied it don't have that historic expense to work into the pricing, so maybe it is justified.
...Meanwhile, I love to watch your videos carefully and react to them.
I hope you enjoy
I do...I DO!@@englishwoodsman
I got a colman fyrestorm from go outdoors. Sits lower because the gas canister is on a hose. Cost 39.00. Well worth it
Is it the warranty?? Is it more effecinent? Dies it use less gas? Does it look better? I think yes on all of it plus better wind resistance.!
Dan,
It’s just snobbery.
I bought some Nike Air trainers, back in the 80’s. But they didn’t make me run any faster!
People can have the named gear, but still have no idea!
It’s not what you’ve got, it’s how you use it.
Stay safe mate
1 million %
Well said pal best comment on here 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@jameswilson6717 thank you James.
I’m a Yorkshireman, I just say it as it is!
Stay safe buddy
I bought a JetBoil look-a-like from PlanetX for less than £30. It's been fine for past 3 years - no issues with quality. The JetBoil might be a tad lighter and maybe has a slightly better finish but the cheap version is plenty good enough.
Dan - it's an interesting question though. My oldest Trangia is now 46 years old. It's as good as new and I am glad I bought it despite the premium price. Some times it's worth paying for the original product and they pay for themselves over time, but I don't think that is the case with the JetBoil.
The difference is that jetboil were the first to introduce the heat exchanger and then put a price on it. Everyone else has then copied it and put a cheaper price on it. Every other product that uses the same heat exchanger will be as good as but at a cheaper price
Cracking video again Dan but like you not sure the jet boil is that much better than the others
I can't see any difference
ive had mine for about 8yr, i actually got it free when i signed up to 6mth of trail magazine :-D. I love how sturdy it is and its wicked on gas, mine last about 4/5 days, but my BRS lasts about 2 days. Not sure if actually pay the full price for a jet boil though its a crazy prize to boil water esp so so many other brands just like it
I have a jetboil ,im not big on brands, but I do like it , but I think it's more that my wife bought it as a present , I never thought that I that I would own one because of the price
Jet boil were the first with that design dan for what it is they are expensive to buy
I got a firemaple polaris for my Christmas from my Grandad and i used it last month for the first time and the rubber gasket broke on first use and now won’t let gas through and i don’t have the heart to tell him so i pretended it was great and now just use my flask again.
I bought a similarly designed stove from Alpkit about 3 years ago, half the price, and it works a treat. I think you are paying for the name.
Well the difference is they are the originals and obviously did alot of r,n,d to make em I got one for the missus and they do boil quicker than my soto amicus and msr pocket rocket
Thanks for watching
My jetboil also takes less than 90 seconds to boil water up to the level mark inside the canister
Does it depend on how many days you will be on trail? A jet boil uses about 4-5 grams per boil. A Pocket rocket uses about 10 grams of fuel per boil. How many boils are you going to do a day. If 3 boils a day you will need to bring the bigger fuel canister with a pocket rocket or you will run out before your trip is over. This equals more weight and more expense. So, what should you do? Figure out how many boils you will do a day X how many days will you be out. This will tell you how to be most efficient (not considering price) as over the life of a jet boil it will be less expensive in fuel cost by many times the price difference of a er boil. Better yet - pick the system you like best and enjoy the backcountry!!
The only possible difference I can imagine might be IF the Jetboil had a micro regulator, not sure if it has/has not. Then when you are cooking using a normal pot it would be easier to simmer and you would still get and regular flame when your gas cannister was running low on gas.
The other possibility would be size and how well it packs away, thinking about space in the backpack.
hi dan jetboil style stoves are good .but not for everyone .i dont use them because i find then unstable and too high to use safely in a small tent .great concept never the less 👍
So one of the key differences is during adverse conditions it does apparently perform quicker but but but…. The lid on mine warped after around 20 boils and then obviously become mad inefficient cause of the heat loss at the top 🤷🏼♂️ swings and round abouts I suppose
I have had the Jetboil Zip for ages, a good size set up for a quick brew. After a while I decided to get a bigger set, but I thought the price was a bit high so I got a similar one made by Highlander. My opinion for what it's worth is that the heat exchanger pots are no different between the brands. The neoprene sleeves on the Jetboil, are much better quality, and the burner unit is much more powerful compared to the cheaper stove. Overall the Jetboil performs better, and feels a better quality product. I heard you say that you didn't like comparing different systems, but you are in a unique position seeing as you have a few different types of stoves. I'd be interested in your views after a few months testing the Jetboil. All the best Mally
Total agree with you I would have got a cheaper brand but got a jet boil of my mate for free but do a real test with a cheaper one next to each other see what the real difference is
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I have the Flash, zip the Frying Pan, coffee press, minimo and i don't even camp, i should stop watching people camping and cooking 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have a campmaster brand and find it does the same job as the jet oil it takes an extra 1 min 30secs to boil that’s the only difference apart from the price
at the end of the day if the stove you use , build water and cooks food how you want it , it doesn't have to be branded , over the years camping on sites we've tried branded v non branded and there has really been little difference , other than cost , interested to see what you have planned
Hi Daniel hope your all good.
Love your videos, you have got me back into camping.
I have a suggestion for you if you fancy something a little different for your content?
I have a SIB (inflatable boat with engine)
I want to get on the water and do some wild camps!
If your interested then let me know.
Boat is licensed for lake Windermere and most uk rivers.
Would love to do Loch Lomond and camp on the island and find the wallabies.
I don’t want to put my phone number or email on here but if you want to chat more then I’m sure we can find a way 👍🏻
Happy for you to use camera etc, let me know your thoughts
Dave
That's the old version I think, my jetboil flash 2 boils a pot in 100 seconds, the newer ones can hold a low simmer flame aswel , i payed 80 quid for my new jetboil flash 2 with a 100g tin of gas , I think the oex one is just as good but half the price I can fry a couple if eggs in 2-3 minutes with my little ali skillet pan aswel 😂
The person said it the jetboil flash
@@englishwoodsman there's a new jetboil flash 2.0 now
Hey Dan, can you advise on your best sleep systems for someone that really feels the cold? Not sure if it's buying more than one sleep mat/SIM and layering them?
I'm sure there great bit of kit but the price has always put me off. I've never been in that much of a hurry to have a brew and I enjoy the whole process of having a cuppa. Plus they don't arf make a racket, my trangia dosent scare away a the wildlife.
I only got it because it was £40
I love my jetboil Dan its decent boils a litre of water in about a minute, I've not tried other brands and that but it's served me well, p.s living in Scotland it's seen me alright in our gusty rainy conditions 😂
Great review, thanks
Maybe you could try to use your OEX on the Jetboil burner and see if it works and or put the Jetboil pot on your OEX burner and let see if they work
Watching now cheers Dan 👍
Did not mean to upload this tonight 🤣🤣
i love my OEX Heiro, i even take it to work with me in the van 🤣
I do understand that Jetboil were the first to design and make these type of cook kits and the R&D aswell as quality of materials and warranty all come as a premium. But alot of other companies that have copied the design have maybe used cheaper components to bring them to the market cheaper. I suppose its how much you are willing to pay and will the Jetboil last twice as long as a product at half the price? I think there maybe some middle ground with the likes of MSR, Soto or Alpkit etc. Due to my personal budget I went for the Jobsworth (pre recalled model) and it has been fine for the last 3 years.
Jet boil were designed for a way to get a quick boil on the move maybe not for everyone but still one of the best systems out there if you’re on the move ask anyone who’s maybe military or more extreme movers can’t all be wrong
Just got back from camping with the family.. it’s a lot of effort and a lot of stuff to pack un pack. Do you have any smaller tents to give away so I can just go off on my own for the night and do a minimal solo camp?
I don't understand, When you're camping, 2 to 5 minutes to boil water doesn't mean anything
I always say the same
I liked the look of your firemaple stove I don.t think the jet boil is worth the extra money
My cousin had a jetboil and after watching me with my OEX Tacana, he bought one and he uses it all the time now and preferes it to the jetboil. All about the branding, unless you need your water 30- 40 seconds quicker😂😂😂
I have a prototype Jetboil. Cant adjust the flame. It's only a coffee maker in my load out these days. They do own that quick as fudge boil though. It's called jet for a reason. But yes it's not the best. OEX is just as good.
whats the rush £40 difference v 1 minute ill stick with my oex tacana
The oex tacana is brilliant
@@englishwoodsman im in no rush to boil i go out and enjoy where i am im content i couldnt do what you do too much like hard work but i do watch all ya vids from start to finish
never owned a jetboil or a generic counterpart.. I understand the concept but when I'm in camping I an not in a terrific rush. At least nothing my standard gas stoves won't handle for me. That said I can see myself picking one up at a good price if only to satisfy my curiosity...lol
I have ditched the jetboil and use a titanium mug with soto wind master, if I don't want a boil in bag meal. Jetboil is good quality to be fair but too expensive. They probably charge a extra 20% just for name.
Mine boiled 2cups water in 1:24 seconds w/propane bottle
I’ve seen the OEX version in Go Outdoors selling for £45 (membership offer). Seems the same sort of thing. I wouldn’t spend £80 to £100 for a cooker.
One of these or similar to one of these is on my list I have started to do peddle bicking with my daughter up and down the canal and I stop a fair few times as she gets tired (she's 7)❤ and would be nice to have a brew and 5 mums why she has a rest I have a twig stove atm but it's not quite practical for the job really
5 mins not mums😂🫣