The depth has a lot to do with it - he was able to hit a very deep central ball, the other guy was off balance and couldn't get enough depth in the next shot, which allows Fonseca to step in and basically dictate the point. If he had hit a shallower ball to the center, the other dude would have dictated and probably won the point. He got the opportunity because he hit a very deep ball and got the other guy off balance.
Great vid. One thing I am struggling with is the high forehand…. I think I have to lock the hips or delay the hips a little to force my arm to extend a little more before contact?
Thanks for your comment. Don't over think the high ball. If you have someone who can feed you balls, or a ball machine set to give you the high bounce. You just have to learn to trust the physics of tennis. You are putting spin on the ball that will bring the ball down into the court. When my kids where very young I had them Hit up on the ball and try to hit the back fence, it took half a buck before the balls started landing in the court.
Thanks for your comment. Ideally yes, staying grounded is always a better option. Hopefully he will calm down as he progresses, but then again some it's part of personality. As a result they learn to live with the errors that it brings.
if you are playing recreational tennis, then the advice of not jumping when hitting is applied better. Once you jump, you can easily miss the sweet spot of the racquet. However, on high level, you can check Alcaraz, Sinner, FAA,... They already have amazing accuracy so they usually jump/rotate to create even more power.
Potential for top ten, even number 1. He still 17 and improving. In one year or perhaps 18 months he will be able to pose serious problems to Sinner and Alcaraz.
@@SkiingBiologyGod I just think Djokovic will perhaps not be that good in 2025 or 26. We will see. He won gold in the Olympics - I wasn’t expecting him playing that well!
extremely risky and error prone forehand which likely will catch him either late or early most of the time against top 30 or even higher ranked players who know how to extract an error; i had to fix this as it's very easy to just pull with the opposite shoulder to get more power; the key (at least on clay where i play 90% of the time) is stability and building the point, not hammering shots, that's too 90s;
Bad analysis. The favorite shot of the righthander is the inside out forehand. Up the middle just means you’re not thinking quickly enough to place the ball. Video announcer is clueless and has never played highly competitive tennis.
Thanks for your reply. I do agree, that's why it's such a pleasure to watch a player like Mannarino. However, it's not really the racquets. I've had my son who has a big game hit with a wood racquet and his groundstroke where just as big, if not bigger because of the extra weight. I put it down to the strings.
@@JustImproveYourGame yes you can hit the ball quite hard w wood but w much less control if playing players of equal quality. Borg's strokes aren't very different from those of recent top players, but he couldn't just take massive swings all the time in his wood racquet days. He hit harder in his comeback and on the senior tour. You can even see that on video. He had approach shots in his game with wood racquets. He even had to serve more conservatively and strategically. With Wimbledon surface chewed up by later rounds, he came forward. McEnroe said that he hit harder in his 50s than he did at 23. The rationale of his game went out the window w racquets that rewarded just ripping all out on most shots. We can't get a McEntoe in today's game. Aside from Alcaraz, most players are very tall and have two handed backhands. They aren't particularly athletic or balletic. It's like we're playing chess with all queens now. In golf, they made the courses longer and harder when the equipment changed in order to protect par. The Masters is 20% longer. Tennis doesn't change anything because the top guys rule and they make plenty of dough. But the game has lost the car and mouse quality. Few want to see a game in which a player like Joker, who is awful at coming forward relatively, be rewarded repeatedly. He's a windshield wiper. It's not beautiful or interesting. To me. I like watching players have to strategize to a greater extent and I like seeing contrasting strategies.
@@doobeedoo2 I couldn't disagree more. Players hitting a serve and then putting away a volley is the most boring thing you can watch, yes there are some good cat and mouse points but you also have those today. And to say that modern players aren't particularly athletic when they're much stronger, faster and have much more endurance than older players is baffling. And please explain what's wrong with a player being tall??? And lastly Djokovic is not bad at coming to the net, but I'm guessing you didn't notice that he vastly improved at volleying seeing as you're seemingly stuck in the 80's...
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Why not have some tournaments continue as the game is now but other tournaments change up the demands so that we aren't always rewarding the same style of play? The French plays faster than it used to; Wimbledon plays much slower since the court doesn't get nearly as chewed up as it used to; US Open, Aussie, & Indian Wells courts are pretty slow hard courts. So they all reward the same style of play. 6'3 or taller dudes w two handed backhands are now the prototypes.
The depth has a lot to do with it - he was able to hit a very deep central ball, the other guy was off balance and couldn't get enough depth in the next shot, which allows Fonseca to step in and basically dictate the point. If he had hit a shallower ball to the center, the other dude would have dictated and probably won the point. He got the opportunity because he hit a very deep ball and got the other guy off balance.
Great vid. One thing I am struggling with is the high forehand…. I think I have to lock the hips or delay the hips a little to force my arm to extend a little more before contact?
Thanks for your comment.
Don't over think the high ball. If you have someone who can feed you balls, or a ball machine set to give you the high bounce. You just have to learn to trust the physics of tennis.
You are putting spin on the ball that will bring the ball down into the court.
When my kids where very young I had them Hit up on the ball and try to hit the back fence, it took half a buck before the balls started landing in the court.
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Yes. Nikishima need this!
Not only Shimaniki... maybe it would also be interesting for people like Sasha
I was told not to jump/rotate with body like is praised here. Thoughts?
Thanks for your comment.
Ideally yes, staying grounded is always a better option. Hopefully he will calm down as he progresses, but then again some it's part of personality. As a result they learn to live with the errors that it brings.
@@JustImproveYourGame thank you for responding
if you are playing recreational tennis, then the advice of not jumping when hitting is applied better. Once you jump, you can easily miss the sweet spot of the racquet.
However, on high level, you can check Alcaraz, Sinner, FAA,... They already have amazing accuracy so they usually jump/rotate to create even more power.
@@quoccuongtran759 yeah I see pretty much everyone leaving ground
@@JustImproveYourGame how is jumping bad? if you watch steffi graf she basically is air borne on every forehand she ever hit
Potential for top ten, even number 1. He still 17 and improving. In one year or perhaps 18 months he will be able to pose serious problems to Sinner and Alcaraz.
Who knows, he might even pose problems for Djokovic!
@@SkiingBiologyGod I just think Djokovic will perhaps not be that good in 2025 or 26. We will see. He won gold in the Olympics - I wasn’t expecting him playing that well!
extremely risky and error prone forehand which likely will catch him either late or early most of the time against top 30 or even higher ranked players who know how to extract an error;
i had to fix this as it's very easy to just pull with the opposite shoulder to get more power; the key (at least on clay where i play 90% of the time) is stability and building the point, not hammering shots, that's too 90s;
He didn't make a ton of errors or caught it late against Fils or Van de Zandschulp who hit harder than your average top 30 player...
Keep it up
Bad analysis. The favorite shot of the righthander is the inside out forehand. Up the middle just means you’re not thinking quickly enough to place the ball. Video announcer is clueless and has never played highly competitive tennis.
BFD.
That wasn't an inside out FH‼He was on the deuce side of the court practically‼Come on man your analysis is bad‼
Still more inside out than down the line fh
@@cekinekshn Inside out FH is taken in the deuce side of the court for a righty! This wasn't close‼
@@quentincrisp6933 yes it was close, watch the trajectory of the ball, it doesn't go straight
it's more inside out than down the line
@@cekinekshn What's with the "down the line"⁉ This shot was somewhat cross court taken slightly to the right of the service T. That isn't inside out ‼
@@quentincrisp6933 Yeh, I call it the "short diagonal". The big diagonal being the FH cross court but it definitively isn't a DTL shot.
Nice shots but theirs thousands of players who play the EXACT same way or better. But definitely a good shot.
Thousands??? Where?
On the other planets where they play tennis!
I wish we could limit all players to wood racquets so that this wouldn't be what the game is about. It's so much less interesting than what it was.
Thanks for your reply.
I do agree, that's why it's such a pleasure to watch a player like Mannarino. However, it's not really the racquets.
I've had my son who has a big game hit with a wood racquet and his groundstroke where just as big, if not bigger because of the extra weight. I put it down to the strings.
@@JustImproveYourGame yes you can hit the ball quite hard w wood but w much less control if playing players of equal quality. Borg's strokes aren't very different from those of recent top players, but he couldn't just take massive swings all the time in his wood racquet days. He hit harder in his comeback and on the senior tour. You can even see that on video. He had approach shots in his game with wood racquets. He even had to serve more conservatively and strategically. With Wimbledon surface chewed up by later rounds, he came forward. McEnroe said that he hit harder in his 50s than he did at 23. The rationale of his game went out the window w racquets that rewarded just ripping all out on most shots. We can't get a McEntoe in today's game. Aside from Alcaraz, most players are very tall and have two handed backhands. They aren't particularly athletic or balletic. It's like we're playing chess with all queens now. In golf, they made the courses longer and harder when the equipment changed in order to protect par. The Masters is 20% longer. Tennis doesn't change anything because the top guys rule and they make plenty of dough. But the game has lost the car and mouse quality. Few want to see a game in which a player like Joker, who is awful at coming forward relatively, be rewarded repeatedly. He's a windshield wiper. It's not beautiful or interesting. To me. I like watching players have to strategize to a greater extent and I like seeing contrasting strategies.
@@doobeedoo2 I couldn't disagree more. Players hitting a serve and then putting away a volley is the most boring thing you can watch, yes there are some good cat and mouse points but you also have those today.
And to say that modern players aren't particularly athletic when they're much stronger, faster and have much more endurance than older players is baffling. And please explain what's wrong with a player being tall???
And lastly Djokovic is not bad at coming to the net, but I'm guessing you didn't notice that he vastly improved at volleying seeing as you're seemingly stuck in the 80's...
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Why not have some tournaments continue as the game is now but other tournaments change up the demands so that we aren't always rewarding the same style of play? The French plays faster than it used to; Wimbledon plays much slower since the court doesn't get nearly as chewed up as it used to; US Open, Aussie, & Indian Wells courts are pretty slow hard courts. So they all reward the same style of play. 6'3 or taller dudes w two handed backhands are now the prototypes.