the V8 when it came out had 350,000 units recalled due to engine issues. I had a pentastar V6 jeep that at 20k miles had the cylinder fail right before they recalled hundred of thousands of vehicles too.
@@ericswanson9773twin turbo v6’s are absolute trash. The only reason manufactures are coming out with them is because the liberal EPA committee is making engines produce less carbon output
Glad I purchased a new 2nd generation 2021 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro employing that bulletproof 5.7 liter V-8 engine and reliable 6 speed Aisan transmission
This affects my 2023 Hybrid Platinum Tundra with 15,077 miles. I heard the knocking as my wife started the truck before she was going to drive 45 minutes to work. I told her to turn the truck off and I had it towed to the dealership. They have had the truck for more than two weeks. The dealerships must wait for Toyota to give them the go ahead (which they did) to fix the truck and then tell them what to replace. Now it’s a waiting game for all the parts to come in.
@@TundraDude34 So when the notice states (conventional gas model only) did that pertain to just Lexus? I have a hybrid from that era and haven't seen the notice in app yet.
@@TundraDude34 I’d say they’re buying themselves some time (for parts and labor) before they add the hybrid -which is most assuredly going to be recalled - to the mix.
Mark, You spoke about the engine problems on one of your livestreams . You said it was a small amount of Tundra's involved. That doesn't make me feel any better about buying one especially if my truck winds up being one of them. How many Tundra's are out there that haven't failed yet ?? If yours ends up being one of them I do not believe you would be happy with Toyota's current remedy. I truly hope Toyota gets to the bottom of this problem once and for all !!
I like the new generation Tundra, with the exception of the lack of recovery hooks in the front and now this issue, which is chipping away at one of Toyota’s historical advantages, reliability. I wanted to purchase one of the new gen Tundras a few years down the road pre-owned but now this engine thing makes it seem like you have a ticking time bomb under the hood. Hopefully this issue only affects a limited run of engines and has been resolved on the production line…
I really feel bad for the folks who have this problem with their trucks. I also feel that what we are seeing so far is the tip of the ice berg . I just cannot take the gamble and hope my truck is not involved. There is just to much money involved with the insanely high prices of these trucks, even with the lower trims. When I buy a vehicle I must have confidence in the reliability and quality of that vehicle. I have had that with the 5 Toyota trucks that I have owned including my 2020 SR5 TRD OFF Road DC. I wish everyone who purchased a current generation Tundra the best of luck with their trucks !!
All the engines would be suspect, until they figured out that they have metal shavings in the engine. Also shows a deficiency in their QC and assembly line work flow that this could ever leave the factory.
Waiting for people to mention about the engine recall for all 22 to 24 year models that have the 3.4 Twin turbo. It will be replaced by the new 5.7 V8 engine. This would make all the Tundra fanboys excited. lol.
@@LiquidSm0ke A pain. The entire engine wiring harness along with the ECM would have to be replaced, and then there is no guarantee that the V-8 ECM would interface with the other computers/electronic controls Also, the transmission may not bolt up to the V-8, requiring that to be swapped as well. It CAN be done, the latest fad is to swap Chevy LS engines into EVERYTHING...I call that "LS disease" I have 52 years in automotive repair, so ive done things like this many times.
I am so happy I did not trade my 2019 for the newer ones , Toyota quality isn’t there anymore unfortunately, my wife’s 2024 grand highlander hybrid max had the transmission replaced at 3k miles
Yes, for a new vehicle crank shaft bearings should rarely fail unless it is due to low oil levels and running the bearings dry or contamination from the engine building process like they suggest.
I am one that has this recall on my app. Just saw it after seeing TRD Jon’s post. Funny I already had the bearing issue in April. They replaced the short block. It was under warranty. Thank god b/c the tech said it cost them 32k. Took a month for them to fix it.
in other words theres metal shavings in the engine... either in the valve train or the crankshaft/ oil sump.. which is not good.... this recall remedy is gonna cost big bucks... take a long long time to fix... jmo
The car guy online just posted a vid on this too. Check the comments, one guy is a Toyota master tech. He says this is gonna be a nightmare and parts are back ordered. Says he’s got several tore down waiting on parts with no eta
Craziest thing is the lx also in the recall is made in Japan. Tells me this is a bigger design issue rather than the random metal left over after machining.
I dumped my 2023 after only 6 weeks ownership. My intuition told me that the truck was a real POS and my intuition has proved me correct and also made ma a very successful person.
It's not a cover story..it I'd the main bearing issue and they're being open.. Machining debris is working its why in and damaging the main bearing from what research I've done
What are your thoughts on the huge negative outcry surrounding Toyota at the moment? I have never seen Toyota enthusiasts be this critical before. 4 tera TRD pro tundras have been on our local dealer lot for months. It really seems like folks aren't loving this new gen, especially the Tacoma
I think the negative voice always speaks louder. I like to look at things like the sales numbers, which are the best for Tundra in 16 years. I never want to see anyone have issues though
I have a 2023 1794 non hybrid and I didn't find my Vin on the site. My app doesn't have the recall either. Is it all 2023's or some? Do they do the recall in blocks and I may still get a notice? Are there others out there in the date range that did not receive the recall notice?
I'm part of the recall so far no problem but are they replacing the motors on them even if u have no issue right now I only have 13,000 miles right now
It sounds like to me that this whole Crankshaft Bearing issue since the inception of this new Tundra engine was NEVER a Design or engineering problem with the engine itself !...this is definitely a sloppy/careless oversight on the assembly side of the engine assembly process. Unfortunately this REALLY sucks for all that are effected by this...Hopefully my just purchased 2024 Limited isn't effective. I just turned 650 miles on the odometer and I'm changing the oil this weekend. I truly believe that this won't ever happen again on Toyota's engine assembly line ! I loved the 5.7 in my last Tundra and I'm very impressed behind the wheel of my 2024 with this new engine and I'm going to stay optimistic that I will say the same great things about this truck in the future
@user-et4yo4fm1n just give it time. You probably would have never guessed 2 years ago that we would see 100,000 recalled. More and more will fail each day. Just imagine people spending 70k on a truck and 10k miles later it dies...
I traded in my 2018 Tacoma for the 2022 Tundra, 38k on the truck now and no issues so far but that sure doesn't make me feel good, especially when I looked my VIN up and its one of the affected vehicles. Will my engine crap out on me unexpectedly ? I bought the TRD Offroad and I like my truck but this does give me cause for concern, I see only one true fix and that is a new engine, anything short of that and I will never have confidence that it will last.
7/23 built 23. Ran my vin and called my service department and have nothing yet, so i'm guessing they're starting with the 22's and working their way up. Had my first checkup and the Transmission/parking brake recalls done but not hit 10k for that first oil change so i'm now -really- hoping its not glitter city in there. im just over 6k and have two long road trips ahead. I know people love the bulletproof 5.7, it's not without fault but it ran so long that there was solid knowledge of what to do to remedy them. you can thank the EPA for why trucks are so big and why everyone lost cylinders this generation.
Hey TundraDude. Like your channel and thanks for the information you disseminate on these trucks. Anyway, I got my TRD Limited Tundra in mid-July 2023. It may or not be affected by the recall and as you say, I won't know until late July. There is speculation that this problem goes way beyond machining debris being left in the block. Others have opined that it's a design flaw in the block which does not provide the rigidity that these motors need under normal operating pressures leading to torsional stress on the main bearing. One UA-camr compared it to the block in the 2.7 Ecoboost, which seems much more robust. I'm interested in your thought on this. And on the constant recalls - they really tick me off. I know that these are common to many manufacturers but why should the customer be put out to bring his/her truck back to the dealership multiple times to fix stuff that should have been right in the first place? Just my $.02
Hi there. No one likes recalls, but i am happy they are trying to correct whats wrong. As far as the speculation of if it really is what they say, its hard to go off of a guessing game. I’ll just keep reading what comes out and what Toyota says on the matter, and go from there.
@@TundraDude34 Well, it doesn't hurt to look on the bright side. I need all the positivity I can get. Especially when you consider I sold a 5.7 Tundra to get the new one! - LOL!!
2023 Tundra platinum. Plugged in vin# on both websites , nothing came up for the engine issue. There is a recall for fuel tube leak which got fixed already at my dealer. Are they still adding trucks to the recall. ?
@@TundraDude34 interesting. I’ll keep everyone posted if they all of a sudden add more or mine to the list. Super interested in finding out what possible repair Toyota will perform?
I made a livestream addressing the concerns a couple of weeks ago titled “reason for concern” and that was about the bearing issue people were talking about
Imagine what the dealer backlog regarding this service is likely going to be. It's not like a windshield wiper motor or something that can be swapped inside of an hour. They are pulling the entire front end of the truck off in order to get the engine out. And let's be honest. This is going to affect 2024 models too. And it's not like Toyota has all these shortblock replacements sitting in a warehouse ready to go. Imagine your new $70-80k truck sitting in the back lot of the dealer for 6 months waiting for service. And how confident would you be that the service tech is going to do the job properly when they're rushed to get through the backlog? Sorry, I don't mean to freak people out, but this situation is an absolute dumpster fire.
Because i own one? That wouldn’t make much sense. When people started talking about it, i did my research before jumping on the doom and gloom train. From what i can tell, for the 2024 model year which is what people were talking about, there haven’t been massive failure, just a few. So out of the thousands and thousands of engines produced for 2024, it didn’t look like a huge problem.
Id bet its just a matter of time before the 24's are added as well. Imagine the wait time for parts on even 15% of the 102,000 flocking to dealers all at once? If the 24 were in the mix theyd have a boatload of trucks, waiting for parts beyond the 30 day lemon limit for lack of a better term. This is a bummer. Thanks for the info. @TundraDude34
I was told that past model years Toyota Pretested all motors before they were installed and that’s the reason they recommended a 10k oil change. Last week when I took delivery of my 2024 TRD OR the sticker showed 5k for the first oil change.I believe the reason for the Pretest is to flush/out those pieces and imperfections. At least they are doing something about it and those affecting the 22/23 model year. Hopefully the 2024 aren’t affected.
There are several 2024 Tundra with engine failures. The owners of these trucks don't care if Toyota hasn't recognized it yet. As I said before, I always had great confidence with the 5 Toyota trucks I have owned. Including my current 2020 Tundra.
I just wanted to mention that several of your listeners chewed my butt several months back when i said that a turbo v-6 was stupid. BTW, where is that Oriental gentleman who does Toyota videos bragging that the v-6 will easily reach 1 million miles? Haven't seen him on UA-cam. Just saying. Yeah my 2008 5.7 had a couple of leaks in the camp Tower but other than that there was no catastrophic engine failure or engine blowing up... just hit 200k... I just watched videos of at least four or five 2024 Tundras that the engines are absolutely blowing up. One with 7800 miles!! Car Care nut( no one more knowledgeable on UA-cam maybe even in the world than him with Toyota) said you better change the oil on these turbocharged Toyotas every 3,000 Mi max 3500.. if you push it to 5000 you're asking for problems(metal shavings). My next question. Why is it so hard for some people to admit when they are wrong? And these 4 Tundras with catastrophic engine failure were all normal use trucks, no towing. So this proves my point and what other experts said when the v-6 turbo tundra came out. That truck is too heavy for that v-6. I don't care if its the same v-6 from their legendary Lexus SUV. Go back to the 5.7 and lighten it for better MPG
Toyota should have put the 5.7 in the new Tundra and engineered a new transmission with more gears. The R&D savings of not having to design 2 new engines could have been passed to the consumer for a lower MSRP truck
Wait until the smoke clears and you will have to admit you’re wrong. Toyota has countermeasures the cleaning process in both plants so debris don’t end up in the engine. B6 has nothing to do with it. Turbos have nothing to do with it.
Stating it is debris left in the motor leaves out the possibility of a design flaw. Think if there really was and Toyota stated there is a engine design flaw, how many buy backs and no sales are you up for? Is an aluminum block sufficiently rigid enough to take the stress of the power levels of this power plant? Looking at the few main bearings for failed engines does not look too muck like engine debris.
Well this sure does suck! I had been waiting to trade my 2018 Tundra in on the new gen. Waiting for all the kinks to get worked out. A little more towing capacity would be nice but looks like I'll still be rolling the ole 5.7 for a while longer. Got 71k on 'er now. Just did a 1800+ round trip towing my car 16ft car trailer & small tractor with loader, land plane and blade. Around 5,000 lbs or so. Not a large amount but was getting about 10 miles to the gallon with that load. Not the worst milage towing I suppose. Always seems to be a head wind whenever I make the trip too. Trucks pretty good with it but a little more torque through the long hills would be nice. I know not everyone is a fan of turbos but when you can just spool those babies up and your rig just steadily keep pulling in high gear without down shifting, man that sure is nice. Was hoping that would be the case with the new gen. Maybe RAM will make the new Cummins 6.7 gas engine an option in their HD trucks. Be nice to get good towing torque out of a gas engine and not have to opt for a diesel. Been there done that. They pull great but with emissions and fuel prices.....meh.
I am currently getting my trans fluid and oil done at Mike Erdman Toyota in cocoa beach and they have a beautiful 1794 limited edition….. with a $20k markup market adjustment on it with an OTD price of $100,469.00!!!!! It is absolutely insane and highway robbery!
Just to clarify, I checked the NHTSA website and my truck VIN is affected. It was not listed on the Toyota Recall website. Make sure to also check your app!
Whew! I'm so glad I didn't buy the new Tundra and Tacoma. It's more than loose particles. It's the Turbo. I bought a 2023 Honda Ridgeline RTL HPD for 38,500 dollars.
i had a 2013 rav4,the transmition was going out at 80,000 miles from a shutter problem,caused by the cumputer.the warrenty was over at 60,000 miles.toyota didnt do nothing to help me.
I posted this issue on your site months ago and you never responded to my question regarding the main bearing issue. By the way, there are several 2024 that have been affected this is why there is a stop sale on the 2024. These trucks are junk and I don’t by the engine debris BS. I was told it’s an engineering issue where the oil ports are too small and would plug over time.
Im sorry i missed your message. Nothing personal, they get lost in the mix sometimes. There is not a stop sale on 2024. There is a stop sale on the affected production date Tundras, which is 80 units
So how do they fix an issue like this? They can't tear down somebodies engine to check their bearings too costly. Check your oil pressure and bottom of the little oil pan and call it good? This is going to be a mess IMHO!
Clearing out machining debris seems to be such a trivial issue, very unlike Toyota. I’d expect it more from the US plant, but also the Japanese plant??
They need to recall all the tundras with this new motor, And They need to stop all future production of the tundra and have dealerships Remove them off their lot until they get this problem figured out. It doesn't end with the 23 Model. A lot of these motor issues are happening around 5000 up to 50000 plus miles And everything in between. 24's are also having Engines fail. Its Just not the 22's and 23's because not many of 24's have got miles on them, but as they do, they will grenade. If anybody believes the excuse that Toyota is giving about metal shavings not being cleaned out.They could have figured this out 2 years ago. That means 24 engines came off the same assembly line. If that is true then there's 24s that are gonna have problems. Never ceases to amaze me People know that there's a KNOWN problem with these tundras and yet Toyota keeps counting on the ignorant People out there to keep buying them and testing out their product. Till they can get it right......
As someone who has a 2024 tundra..i don't mind this..if it leads to a more stable better vehicle.. This trucks have only been out for 2 years..if these issues are stilling going on in 2025 or 2026...this is a dead platform that needs to be abandoned.
@@TundraDude34 ohh good to know mark glad I ain’t involved in this recall …still waiting for the risk fire recall to be completed in Aug when the 2nd remedy is available that’s what the dealer told me
The debris excuse is nonsense. This is a design issue. The only reason 2024s weren’t recalled is that Toyota would have to put a stop sale on all of their new inventory. They can’t afford that big of a hit to stop all sales of new tundras.
That is the kind of speculation i am trying to avoid. For that to be reported, it has to be real and official, not what people think. And im not trying to start an argument, so please don’t take it that way. I will continue to update on what Toyota says and what they will do. If what you say becomes official, im on it. Thank you for watching
Toyota is going to have to do way more than simply recalling these trucks if they want them to sell in the future. People - Toyota fans, have lost faith that this engine is every going to be able to go the distance.
I hate to say it. The debris is bull crap. It's not debris. It's a brand new engine designed in the US and there is a design problem. I will be very surprised if this is the real problem.
Toyota has been known as being bullet proof. This is a shame. I have only driven Toyotas the past 25 years. American Edwards Deming showed Toyota how to do fantastic quality. Seems that has died away with the past generations.
This isnt a new thing for Toyota. 3.0 V-6 engines in 1990s 4 Runners and pickups were known to have head gasket issues. Toyota wouldnt recall them, but if a customer complained enough Toyota would install new head gaskets at the dealer one time only. They never publicized this.Those engines also had valve seat recession issues. They also admitted to sludging problems in 90s Camry 4 cylinder engines, Toyota called it "oil gelling"
Not a good time to buy a Tundra, PERIOD! and I was gonna get a 24, but now I'm waiting, screw this crap. There are way too many problems with these new vehicles.. How can Toyota go down the tubes so fast???
@@ericswanson9773 Yea, but when I'm gonna put out 65 k for a truck , I want quality and a piece of mind! Maybe they should give a power train warranty for 100k like KIA.
I watched a video this morning from a guy with a '24 who's engine has done this very thing and he's catching hell from corporate with the repairs after it wrecked the bearings and journals. My oldest son has a '24 as well and I hope it doesn't happen to his truck. They're starting to behave a bit like Ford when problems get exposed. I advised my son to change his oil every 3k no matter what the manual says.
Okay I’ll be “THAT GUY”, BRING BACK THE V8 BABY!!!! Yeee hawww!
That could happen to v8 as well
Unfortunately, the V8 is unequivocally without a doubt NEVER coming back.
the V8 when it came out had 350,000 units recalled due to engine issues. I had a pentastar V6 jeep that at 20k miles had the cylinder fail right before they recalled hundred of thousands of vehicles too.
@@ericswanson9773twin turbo v6’s are absolute trash. The only reason manufactures are coming out with them is because the liberal EPA committee is making engines produce less carbon output
Never gonna happen.
Now you understand why so many customers had to replace those engines at 7 K miles.
I’m grateful that I bought a gently used 2021 instead of a new 2023.
Glad I purchased a new 2nd generation 2021 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro employing that bulletproof 5.7 liter V-8 engine and reliable 6 speed Aisan transmission
I got a 20 TRD OR 5.7
Hell yea. I got the 2021 tundra trd pro lunar rock last year. Had to go with the bullet proof v8 track record
*Aisin.
This affects my 2023 Hybrid Platinum Tundra with 15,077 miles. I heard the knocking as my wife started the truck before she was going to drive 45 minutes to work. I told her to turn the truck off and I had it towed to the dealership. They have had the truck for more than two weeks. The dealerships must wait for Toyota to give them the go ahead (which they did) to fix the truck and then tell them what to replace. Now it’s a waiting game for all the parts to come in.
Hybrids are not included in this recall... I suspect it'll be a separate recall notice.
@maharisc9938 hopefully not. They usually have them listed on the same notice, if both engine options are involved
@@TundraDude34 So when the notice states (conventional gas model only) did that pertain to just Lexus? I have a hybrid from that era and haven't seen the notice in app yet.
@@TundraDude34 I’d say they’re buying themselves some time (for parts and labor) before they add the hybrid -which is most assuredly going to be recalled - to the mix.
I agree, at the end I bet they are all going to be recalled.
Mark,
You spoke about the engine problems on one of your livestreams .
You said it was a small amount of Tundra's involved.
That doesn't make me feel any better about buying one especially if my truck winds up being one of them.
How many Tundra's are out there that haven't failed yet ??
If yours ends up being one of them I do not believe you would be happy with Toyota's current remedy.
I truly hope Toyota gets to the bottom of this problem once and for all !!
I like the new generation Tundra, with the exception of the lack of recovery hooks in the front and now this issue, which is chipping away at one of Toyota’s historical advantages, reliability. I wanted to purchase one of the new gen Tundras a few years down the road pre-owned but now this engine thing makes it seem like you have a ticking time bomb under the hood. Hopefully this issue only affects a limited run of engines and has been resolved on the production line…
This is about the 22/23s, not the 2024s. The production dates highlighted are early Nov 2021-mid feb 2023
I really feel bad for the folks who have this problem with their trucks.
I also feel that what we are seeing so far is the tip of the ice berg .
I just cannot take the gamble and hope my truck is not involved.
There is just to much money involved with the insanely high prices of these trucks, even with the lower trims.
When I buy a vehicle I must have confidence in the reliability and quality of that vehicle.
I have had that with the 5 Toyota trucks that I have owned including my 2020 SR5 TRD OFF Road DC.
I wish everyone who purchased a current generation Tundra the best of luck with their trucks !!
All the engines would be suspect, until they figured out that they have metal shavings in the engine. Also shows a deficiency in their QC and assembly line work flow that this could ever leave the factory.
@@TundraDude34 2024s are blowing too.
Waiting for people to mention about the engine recall for all 22 to 24 year models that have the 3.4 Twin turbo. It will be replaced by the new 5.7 V8 engine. This would make all the Tundra fanboys excited. lol.
I wonder how hard a swap would be
You got that right
@@LiquidSm0ke A pain. The entire engine wiring harness along with the ECM would have to be replaced, and then there is no guarantee that the V-8 ECM would interface with the other computers/electronic controls
Also, the transmission may not bolt up to the V-8, requiring that to be swapped as well.
It CAN be done, the latest fad is to swap Chevy LS engines into EVERYTHING...I call that "LS disease"
I have 52 years in automotive repair, so ive done things like this many times.
I doubt the 5.7 will return. They cant get the fuel numbers with it. They after the bag like the big 3. Cost is up, quality is down.
@@Bigfish1dayblame the government dont you know you live in a fascist country?
I am so happy I did not trade my 2019 for the newer ones , Toyota quality isn’t there anymore unfortunately, my wife’s 2024 grand highlander hybrid max had the transmission replaced at 3k miles
Thank you brother. Mark do you think it has to do something with the main bearings?
Yes, for a new vehicle crank shaft bearings should rarely fail unless it is due to low oil levels and running the bearings dry or contamination from the engine building process like they suggest.
I am one that has this recall on my app. Just saw it after seeing TRD Jon’s post. Funny I already had the bearing issue in April. They replaced the short block. It was under warranty. Thank god b/c the tech said it cost them 32k. Took a month for them to fix it.
32k?!! holy crap, thats nuts!
in other words theres metal shavings in the engine... either in the valve train or the crankshaft/ oil sump.. which is not good.... this recall remedy is gonna cost big bucks... take a long long time to fix... jmo
The they have poor quality control
I'm so glad i got a used 2018 trd sr5 in 2020 with 14 thousand miles for 32 grand. Just 4 years later 46 thousand miles on it.
The car guy online just posted a vid on this too. Check the comments, one guy is a Toyota master tech. He says this is gonna be a nightmare and parts are back ordered. Says he’s got several tore down waiting on parts with no eta
This is most definitely gonna be a nightmare of a recall
Craziest thing is the lx also in the recall is made in Japan. Tells me this is a bigger design issue rather than the random metal left over after machining.
Right, the LX is made in Japan, they didn't leave any metal shavings in the motor lol
The two motor plants mirror the cleaning process. Countermeasures have been put in place.
I dumped my 2023 after only 6 weeks ownership. My intuition told me that the truck was a real POS and my intuition has proved me correct and also made ma a very successful person.
Recall sounds like a good cover story for the main bearing issues.
Exactly! Anyone who believes the "debris" story is an idiot.
It's not a cover story..it I'd the main bearing issue and they're being open..
Machining debris is working its why in and damaging the main bearing from what research I've done
Told you, they have 4 brand new yotas on the yard with less than 5000 miles on them that have already popped.
The 5.7s had issues too. Cam tower leaks, valley plate leaks etc.... but in all honesty I'd rather have that 5.7 anyways 😆
The trd pro with the 5.7 is a beast! Regardless of any imperfections
A leak compared to this??? Really? 🤦🏼♂️
@bwer2 hence me saying "etc" do your research bud. The 5.7 had catastrophic failures too
@@theUltimateLord ummm no…but nice try
@@bwer2 umm yes Do your research
What are your thoughts on the huge negative outcry surrounding Toyota at the moment? I have never seen Toyota enthusiasts be this critical before. 4 tera TRD pro tundras have been on our local dealer lot for months. It really seems like folks aren't loving this new gen, especially the Tacoma
I think the negative voice always speaks louder. I like to look at things like the sales numbers, which are the best for Tundra in 16 years. I never want to see anyone have issues though
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@@TundraDude34 hopefully the growing negative discourse doesn't impact future sales.
It’ll definitely be something to keep an eye on!
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I have a 2023 1794 non hybrid and I didn't find my Vin on the site. My app doesn't have the recall either. Is it all 2023's or some? Do they do the recall in blocks and I may still get a notice? Are there others out there in the date range that did not receive the recall notice?
Non hybrids built up to Feb 2023.
I'm part of the recall so far no problem but are they replacing the motors on them even if u have no issue right now I only have 13,000 miles right now
What about the 2024 models? I keep reading about engine problems with them.
It sounds like to me that this whole Crankshaft Bearing issue since the inception of this new Tundra engine was NEVER a Design or engineering problem with the engine itself !...this is definitely a sloppy/careless oversight on the assembly side of the engine assembly process. Unfortunately this REALLY sucks for all that are effected by this...Hopefully my just purchased 2024 Limited isn't effective. I just turned 650 miles on the odometer and I'm changing the oil this weekend. I truly believe that this won't ever happen again on Toyota's engine assembly line ! I loved the 5.7 in my last Tundra and I'm very impressed behind the wheel of my 2024 with this new engine and I'm going to stay optimistic that I will say the same great things about this truck in the future
This Massive Recall just Confirms what a Huge Disaster this 3rd Generation really is, so happy I didn’t throw my money away on one!!
The plant puts out around 900 trucks a day and there has been under 200 that needed engines replaced so far. Overreacting
So glad I have my 2020 pro!!
I received this on my app. Mine is a 22 TRD off road. I already put 80k miles on it and is solid still. It’s my work truck
I just purchased a 2023 Tundra Platinum 2 days ago......feeling a little queasy.
It's all of them. This is just the beginning of the news
@@mountainlife3650you don’t know that.
@user-et4yo4fm1n just give it time. You probably would have never guessed 2 years ago that we would see 100,000 recalled. More and more will fail each day. Just imagine people spending 70k on a truck and 10k miles later it dies...
I traded in my 2018 Tacoma for the 2022 Tundra, 38k on the truck now and no issues so far but that sure doesn't make me feel good, especially when I looked my VIN up and its one of the affected vehicles. Will my engine crap out on me unexpectedly ? I bought the TRD Offroad and I like my truck but this does give me cause for concern, I see only one true fix and that is a new engine, anything short of that and I will never have confidence that it will last.
7/23 built 23. Ran my vin and called my service department and have nothing yet, so i'm guessing they're starting with the 22's and working their way up. Had my first checkup and the Transmission/parking brake recalls done but not hit 10k for that first oil change so i'm now -really- hoping its not glitter city in there. im just over 6k and have two long road trips ahead.
I know people love the bulletproof 5.7, it's not without fault but it ran so long that there was solid knowledge of what to do to remedy them. you can thank the EPA for why trucks are so big and why everyone lost cylinders this generation.
Sorry if this question was asked, but are there worries over 24 Hybrid variants? Thanks
This is a recall for 22/23 tundras, non hybrid
Thanks
Anybody keeping these trucks at this point is insane. Cut your losses.
People need to calm down. Now all are affected.
@@RSHart-d5kuncertainty while driving will drive me nuts
A problem that cost 32k to fix out of warranty. Wouldn’t touch one of these, so glad I have the 2020
@@RSHart-d5k perception is reality. Values have tanked
Does this recall include the Tundra Hybrids??
Recall is good, not a small problem however with over a 100k units. More like 30% to 40% over what was produced in that span.
If they fined metal in the engine it will be interesting to see how they correct that problem.
It’ll be block replacement and techs won’t get paid well for the job
Hey TundraDude. Like your channel and thanks for the information you disseminate on these trucks. Anyway, I got my TRD Limited Tundra in mid-July 2023. It may or not be affected by the recall and as you say, I won't know until late July. There is speculation that this problem goes way beyond machining debris being left in the block. Others have opined that it's a design flaw in the block which does not provide the rigidity that these motors need under normal operating pressures leading to torsional stress on the main bearing. One UA-camr compared it to the block in the 2.7 Ecoboost, which seems much more robust. I'm interested in your thought on this. And on the constant recalls - they really tick me off. I know that these are common to many manufacturers but why should the customer be put out to bring his/her truck back to the dealership multiple times to fix stuff that should have been right in the first place? Just my $.02
Hi there. No one likes recalls, but i am happy they are trying to correct whats wrong. As far as the speculation of if it really is what they say, its hard to go off of a guessing game. I’ll just keep reading what comes out and what Toyota says on the matter, and go from there.
@@TundraDude34 Well, it doesn't hurt to look on the bright side. I need all the positivity I can get. Especially when you consider I sold a 5.7 Tundra to get the new one! - LOL!!
You should see me on the golf course. I’m the overly positive one of the 4some, no matter how bad your shot was 🤣
You will outlive them all. Stress kills.@@TundraDude34
Been a lifelong Toyota owner. If there’s a problem, they will make it right
2023 Tundra platinum. Plugged in vin# on both websites , nothing came up for the engine issue. There is a recall for fuel tube leak which got fixed already at my dealer. Are they still adding trucks to the recall. ?
Looks like the problem production dates are early Nov 2021-mid Feb 2023
@@TundraDude34 interesting. I’ll keep everyone posted if they all of a sudden add more or mine to the list. Super interested in finding out what possible repair Toyota will perform?
My dealer just told me the fuel tube leak hasn't been solved yet ugh....time for a new dealer??
My fuel tube recall is still there, although i had it taken care of awhile ago. Maybe it was just the temp fix they did 🤷🏼♂️
@@chrisroy1613I just checked and that recall is still active, but they did perform something , I think it might have been a temporary fix. 😡
Would like to get a Tundra but I can't pull the trigger . It seems they are still having major issues
Not current model.
My 2019 V8 will last longer than a 2024 V6
Hello ☮️❤️🇨🇦
I expected to hear some comments from you about this matter. But no. Seems you truly are a Toyota fan no matter what.
I made a livestream addressing the concerns a couple of weeks ago titled “reason for concern” and that was about the bearing issue people were talking about
But he did.
Imagine what the dealer backlog regarding this service is likely going to be. It's not like a windshield wiper motor or something that can be swapped inside of an hour. They are pulling the entire front end of the truck off in order to get the engine out. And let's be honest. This is going to affect 2024 models too. And it's not like Toyota has all these shortblock replacements sitting in a warehouse ready to go. Imagine your new $70-80k truck sitting in the back lot of the dealer for 6 months waiting for service. And how confident would you be that the service tech is going to do the job properly when they're rushed to get through the backlog? Sorry, I don't mean to freak people out, but this situation is an absolute dumpster fire.
Depressing and seriously embarrassing for Toyota.
How come you not talking about all the 3 rd generation engine problems????? 22-24
@@_67618 HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM
I did a livestream on that a couple weeks back.
Because i own one? That wouldn’t make much sense. When people started talking about it, i did my research before jumping on the doom and gloom train. From what i can tell, for the 2024 model year which is what people were talking about, there haven’t been massive failure, just a few. So out of the thousands and thousands of engines produced for 2024, it didn’t look like a huge problem.
There are many many problems with this New Design and as I said from the very beginning it’s a Disaster. This recall just confirms it!!
Id bet its just a matter of time before the 24's are added as well. Imagine the wait time for parts on even 15% of the 102,000 flocking to dealers all at once? If the 24 were in the mix theyd have a boatload of trucks, waiting for parts beyond the 30 day lemon limit for lack of a better term. This is a bummer. Thanks for the info. @TundraDude34
I was told that past model years Toyota Pretested all motors before they were installed and that’s the reason they recommended a 10k oil change. Last week when I took delivery of my 2024 TRD OR the sticker showed 5k for the first oil change.I believe the reason for the Pretest is to flush/out those pieces and imperfections. At least they are doing something about it and those affecting the 22/23 model year. Hopefully the 2024 aren’t affected.
There are several 2024 Tundra with engine failures.
The owners of these trucks don't care if Toyota hasn't recognized it yet.
As I said before, I always had great confidence with the 5 Toyota trucks I have owned.
Including my current 2020 Tundra.
The Sequoia has the same engine, why don't we hear them being mentioned ?
This looks to be the non hybrid engine option for the recall. Sequoia is hybrid throughout the lineup
Have any of the reported ones on forums, etc. been of the hybrid variety that have had main bearing problems?
I just wanted to mention that several of your listeners chewed my butt several months back when i said that a turbo v-6 was stupid. BTW, where is that Oriental gentleman who does Toyota videos bragging that the v-6 will easily reach 1 million miles? Haven't seen him on UA-cam. Just saying. Yeah my 2008 5.7 had a couple of leaks in the camp Tower but other than that there was no catastrophic engine failure or engine blowing up... just hit 200k... I just watched videos of at least four or five 2024 Tundras that the engines are absolutely blowing up. One with 7800 miles!! Car Care nut( no one more knowledgeable on UA-cam maybe even in the world than him with Toyota) said you better change the oil on these turbocharged Toyotas every 3,000 Mi max 3500.. if you push it to 5000 you're asking for problems(metal shavings).
My next question. Why is it so hard for some people to admit when they are wrong?
And these 4 Tundras with catastrophic engine failure were all normal use trucks, no towing. So this proves my point and what other experts said when the v-6 turbo tundra came out. That truck is too heavy for that v-6. I don't care if its the same v-6 from their legendary Lexus SUV. Go back to the 5.7 and lighten it for better MPG
Toyota should have put the 5.7 in the new Tundra and engineered a new transmission with more gears.
The R&D savings of not having to design 2 new engines could have been passed to the consumer for a lower MSRP truck
@@David.D3upcoming government regulations is doing away with v8s.
Wait until the smoke clears and you will have to admit you’re wrong. Toyota has countermeasures the cleaning process in both plants so debris don’t end up in the engine. B6 has nothing to do with it. Turbos have nothing to do with it.
Stating it is debris left in the motor leaves out the possibility of a design flaw. Think if there really was and Toyota stated there is a engine design flaw, how many buy backs and no sales are you up for? Is an aluminum block sufficiently rigid enough to take the stress of the power levels of this power plant? Looking at the few main bearings for failed engines does not look too muck like engine debris.
Well this sure does suck! I had been waiting to trade my 2018 Tundra in on the new gen. Waiting for all the kinks to get worked out. A little more towing capacity would be nice but looks like I'll still be rolling the ole 5.7 for a while longer. Got 71k on 'er now. Just did a 1800+ round trip towing my car 16ft car trailer & small tractor with loader, land plane and blade. Around 5,000 lbs or so. Not a large amount but was getting about 10 miles to the gallon with that load. Not the worst milage towing I suppose. Always seems to be a head wind whenever I make the trip too. Trucks pretty good with it but a little more torque through the long hills would be nice. I know not everyone is a fan of turbos but when you can just spool those babies up and your rig just steadily keep pulling in high gear without down shifting, man that sure is nice. Was hoping that would be the case with the new gen. Maybe RAM will make the new Cummins 6.7 gas engine an option in their HD trucks. Be nice to get good towing torque out of a gas engine and not have to opt for a diesel. Been there done that. They pull great but with emissions and fuel prices.....meh.
Anything on the 2024 tundra? Got a new SR5
Nope. Just certain production dates for the 22/23 Tundra
@@TundraDude34 thanks a bunch! Appreciate you
What about the sequoia they have the same engine?
The Sequoias are all hybrid. This recall doesn’t include the i force max (hybrid)
Just checked with my VIN on the website and checked my app. Guess I dodged this bullet, as the recall doesn’t show up for mine.
Early days yet. They may have to expand the recall if the forum crew tracking the failures are to be believed.
Yet.
Keep your fingers crossed.
I have an early 24 bought in oct of 23. its not on recall yet
I am currently getting my trans fluid and oil done at Mike Erdman Toyota in cocoa beach and they have a beautiful 1794 limited edition….. with a $20k markup market adjustment on it with an OTD price of $100,469.00!!!!! It is absolutely insane and highway robbery!
Glad they are doing something about it
Great to hear that Toyota is finally remedying this problem for my Toyota brotherin. If they fix the engine problem, they'll keep me onboard.
I checked the website and my VIN did not show up but did on the Toyota app. So not sure what to think at this point.
Just to clarify, I checked the NHTSA website and my truck VIN is affected. It was not listed on the Toyota Recall website. Make sure to also check your app!
Any factory repair de values these trucks good luck selling these used in the future
Who would want any Used Turbo Crap ? Nobody !
Whew! I'm so glad I didn't buy the new Tundra and Tacoma.
It's more than loose particles. It's the Turbo.
I bought a 2023 Honda Ridgeline RTL HPD for 38,500 dollars.
i had a 2013 rav4,the transmition was going out at 80,000 miles from a shutter problem,caused by the cumputer.the warrenty was over at 60,000 miles.toyota didnt do nothing to help me.
I posted this issue on your site months ago and you never responded to my question regarding the main bearing issue. By the way, there are several 2024 that have been affected this is why there is a stop sale on the 2024. These trucks are junk and I don’t by the engine debris BS. I was told it’s an engineering issue where the oil ports are too small and would plug over time.
Im sorry i missed your message. Nothing personal, they get lost in the mix sometimes. There is not a stop sale on 2024. There is a stop sale on the affected production date Tundras, which is 80 units
Why are the Hybrids not recalled? Different plant?
Now, would you want a 22 - 24 even if the have been fixed or not, recalled or not?
No
YES Love my 5.7V8!!!!!!!
Effects hybrids as well, it’s just that they are not being recalled.
But I thought it was just isolated incidents?
The 2024s are isolated incidents…for now, hopefully forever. This is for a range of production dates for the 22/23 Tundra
Heard people say this about the 2024 also
Who are people?
@@RSHart-d5k really? You want me to name them? Will you know them? lol. Just search it online and UA-cam
So how do they fix an issue like this? They can't tear down somebodies engine to check their bearings too costly. Check your oil pressure and bottom of the little oil pan and call it good? This is going to be a mess IMHO!
Clearing out machining debris seems to be such a trivial issue, very unlike Toyota. I’d expect it more from the US plant, but also the Japanese plant??
They need to recall all the tundras with this new motor, And They need to stop all future production of the tundra and have dealerships Remove them off their lot until they get this problem figured out. It doesn't end with the 23 Model. A lot of these motor issues are happening around 5000 up to 50000 plus miles And everything in between. 24's are also having Engines fail. Its Just not the 22's and 23's because not many of 24's have got miles on them, but as they do, they will grenade. If anybody believes the excuse that Toyota is giving about metal shavings not being cleaned out.They could have figured this out 2 years ago. That means 24 engines came off the same assembly line. If that is true then there's 24s that are gonna have problems. Never ceases to amaze me People know that there's a KNOWN problem with these tundras and yet Toyota keeps counting on the ignorant People out there to keep buying them and testing out their product. Till they can get it right......
As someone who has a 2024 tundra..i don't mind this..if it leads to a more stable better vehicle..
This trucks have only been out for 2 years..if these issues are stilling going on in 2025 or 2026...this is a dead platform that needs to be abandoned.
The only difference between the hybrid and conventional engines is the hybrid power supply being added.
Turns out they have different cams and bearings which is why the gas only engines are affected.
I went to the site… if my vin is not showing this recall am I safe?
Check toyota.com/recall and nhtsa.gov/recalls
Im cleared on both 👍🏼
If it’s not showing up are we safe?
I would keep checking for the next few days just to make sure
It's not worth buying a new car or truck.
So what is the fix? Certainly they won’t replace the engines
So far, no remedy.
Could this be the problem that has plagued the new generation?!
My 2023 already locked up
Recall not on the website...but it shows on my ap
Do you know about wind noise
A lot of people complained about that early on. My 2023 doesn’t have it thank God
Bring back the legendary v8 with some new upgrades!!! Why they can’t put the same hybrid motor with the v8 standard with 10 speed transmission.
I own a 2022 tundra trd pro and didnt have the notification on the app yet 🤷🏻♂️
Its for a certain production date range from nov 21-feb 23, and non hybrid
@@TundraDude34 ohh good to know mark glad I ain’t involved in this recall …still waiting for the risk fire recall to be completed in Aug when the 2nd remedy is available that’s what the dealer told me
Toyota will be just fine. They're not the BIG3. They don't need Tundra sales to survive.
The debris excuse is nonsense. This is a design issue. The only reason 2024s weren’t recalled is that Toyota would have to put a stop sale on all of their new inventory. They can’t afford that big of a hit to stop all sales of new tundras.
That is the kind of speculation i am trying to avoid. For that to be reported, it has to be real and official, not what people think.
And im not trying to start an argument, so please don’t take it that way. I will continue to update on what Toyota says and what they will do. If what you say becomes official, im on it. Thank you for watching
Simple solution from the aviation world: Do an oil analysis of all engines.
Thank god mine is just a lease. 2024, but I assume they will expand the recall to include 2024 as well. What a mess this is gonna be.
Having same problem with my 2024 with 3 miles on it
Thanks Mark
Toyota is going to have to do way more than simply recalling these trucks if they want them to sell in the future. People - Toyota fans, have lost faith that this engine is every going to be able to go the distance.
I hate to say it. The debris is bull crap. It's not debris. It's a brand new engine designed in the US and there is a design problem. I will be very surprised if this is the real problem.
I have never seen so many tundras on the lots now. Wonder why????
The turbo is absolved!
Just traded my 23 Tundra for a 4Runner with old 4.0 V6
Smart Man ! Its the only Solid Simple Toyota left to buy !
Toyota has been known as being bullet proof. This is a shame. I have only driven Toyotas the past 25 years. American Edwards Deming showed Toyota how to do fantastic quality. Seems that has died away with the past generations.
If you know the real history rather than the hype, you would know that they are FAR from bulletproof.
This isnt a new thing for Toyota. 3.0 V-6 engines in 1990s 4 Runners and pickups were known to have head gasket issues.
Toyota wouldnt recall them, but if a customer complained enough Toyota would install new head gaskets at the dealer one time only. They never publicized this.Those engines also had valve seat recession issues.
They also admitted to sludging problems in 90s Camry 4 cylinder engines, Toyota called it "oil gelling"
Will never buy a new tundra or Tacoma! The outgoing titan or frontier looking like a better option for me.
Disappointed. I'm keeping my eye out for a used V8 at this point. In the meantime, I'll enjoy my 3rd gen Tacoma!
Check out some of the videos ive been posting over the last few weeks. Some excellent v8 options out there
@@TundraDude34 I would have been all over that one from Canada you found!!!
@ampalxsportlb2061 pretty sure thats still available
@@TundraDude34 long way from Kansas..
V8 plus ten speed should have been the power train. PS 24's have already failed
They should have been recalled for leaving out 2 cylinders
Odd that this is saying it is non-hybrid engines. What is different about the engine?
I was thinking the same. Hybrids will be next.
Not a good time to buy a Tundra, PERIOD! and I was gonna get a 24, but now I'm waiting, screw this crap. There are way too many problems with these new vehicles.. How can Toyota go down the tubes so fast???
At least they recall and fix them, unlike GMC.
@@ericswanson9773 Yea, but when I'm gonna put out 65 k for a truck , I want quality and a piece of mind! Maybe they should give a power train warranty for 100k like KIA.
I watched a video this morning from a guy with a '24 who's engine has done this very thing and he's catching hell from corporate with the repairs after it wrecked the bearings and journals. My oldest son has a '24 as well and I hope it doesn't happen to his truck. They're starting to behave a bit like Ford when problems get exposed. I advised my son to change his oil every 3k no matter what the manual says.