IU - eight (Prod.&Feat. SUGA of BTS) Explained by a Korean

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  • This is an subjective/alternative explanation & theory of IU's 'eight' music video. There is no intention of disrespecting Sulli, Hara and Jonghyun, but rather tries to spread more awareness against hate comments, by trying to understand the pain and message that might underlie in this MV. If by any chance ads appeared on this video, it is not our intention. This video has gotten copyrighted due to the use of music, thus the advertisements are automatically run by UA-cam, out of our control. We do not gain any of the profit.
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  • @DKDKTV
    @DKDKTV  4 роки тому +5098

    This is an subjective/alternative explanation & theory of IU's 'eight' music video. There is no intention of disrespecting Sulli, Hara and Jonghyun, but rather tries to spread more awareness against hate comments, by trying to understand the pain and message that might underlie in this MV. If by any chance ads appeared on this video, it is not our intention. This video has gotten copyrighted due to the use of music, thus the advertisements are automatically run by UA-cam, out of our control. We do not gain any of the profit.

    • @Noctis198
      @Noctis198 4 роки тому +50

      Out of curiosity, was IU close to Sulli, Hara and Jonghyun? I never remembered her being close to them granted she's mostly cool with everyone.

    • @milasukhu
      @milasukhu 4 роки тому +55

      @@Noctis198 yes she was a cohost on inkigayo with sulli and hara.

    • @DKDKTV
      @DKDKTV  4 роки тому +356

      ​@@Noctis198 Yes, according to many interviews. IU and Sulli especially mentioned each other a lot on TV programs and social media. IU wrote multiple songs inspired by Sulli like Peach, Red Queen and BBI BBI. Sulli also appeared as a cameo for IU in Hotel Del Luna. IU mentioned that Sulli always came to her concerts and IU said that she thought Sulli was watching during her Seoul concert.

    • @JenCruz.
      @JenCruz. 4 роки тому +11

      Yes

    • @amethyst6349
      @amethyst6349 4 роки тому +27

      Because of your explanation, i do love this music sooo much. 💜

  • @secretiveplottet
    @secretiveplottet 4 роки тому +8601

    Let's all appreciate how he could explain it without tearing up 😔✊

    • @alperry02
      @alperry02 4 роки тому +118

      Seriously . That took a lot of strength

    • @joycehe3138
      @joycehe3138 4 роки тому +109

      he almost did too, mad respect

    • @evanianagissa3437
      @evanianagissa3437 4 роки тому +63

      I am tearing up 😭

    • @minyoongles550
      @minyoongles550 4 роки тому +17

      bruh 😭

    • @sasasansasan
      @sasasansasan 4 роки тому +69

      We're not the ones explaining but we're sobbing still 😭

  • @MissSudangirl
    @MissSudangirl 4 роки тому +4341

    *When she stares at the camera at the end and asks the haters (who caused the suicide of her friends) 'so are you happy now?' That really hit me man.*
    *Yoongi and IU are seriously talented!!!*

    • @funzy9361
      @funzy9361 4 роки тому +21

      Fr 😭

    • @Hala-cq5lr
      @Hala-cq5lr 4 роки тому +88

      Same I hope those people who hated on them get punished by god 😡 may all of them Rest In Peace 😭💜

    • @isha0616
      @isha0616 4 роки тому +137

      @KAETHOS TV You can see it this way.
      The first time these lyrics appear she's asking her friends whether they are happy considering that they can finally live their life the way they want.
      But when these words come again at the end she's talking to the haters because her expressions are very cold

    • @isha0616
      @isha0616 4 роки тому +65

      @KAETHOS TV The teary eyed cartoon was literally like a stab in my heart. The fact that she's crying because she misses them but at the same time smiling knowing that they are in a better place.
      Idols in Korea need to start suing and start voicing their opinions and stop taking hate. They need to live their life on their own terms.
      You know the situation is bad when people commit su*ci*e because of some useless people who only know how to spread hate.

    • @miradugan5110
      @miradugan5110 4 роки тому +14

      The goosebumps i had when david said that.😩

  • @dararariiii2567
    @dararariiii2567 4 роки тому +1566

    IU is definitely one of Korea's Best Songwriter. When she writes her songs it's not straightforward, but more poetic.

    • @danacinnamon3007
      @danacinnamon3007 3 роки тому +7

      Wasnt this written by suga tho ( she is still an amazing song writer tho)

    • @dararariiii2567
      @dararariiii2567 3 роки тому +60

      @@danacinnamon3007 no, this is mostly written by IU and Suga most likely wrote his rap verse only.

    • @danacinnamon3007
      @danacinnamon3007 3 роки тому +16

      @@dararariiii2567 yeah I remembered suga produced not wrote

    • @snowyy8569
      @snowyy8569 3 роки тому +25

      @@danacinnamon3007 No, IU wrote the song (Suga wrote his rap part? and a producer)

    • @inzaghiscornsalad7034
      @inzaghiscornsalad7034 2 роки тому +8

      suga's musical touch and iu's writing skills really made this so special. They lyrics still make me tear up. Good job both of them.

  • @kobodeu
    @kobodeu 4 роки тому +424

    the chorus says “forever we young” because they died at a young age and will never age

  • @Amanda.656
    @Amanda.656 4 роки тому +2370

    wow I didn't realized that at the end when she says " are you happy now" staring towards the camera , she meant it for the haters... it makes total sense.

    • @adilah1000
      @adilah1000 4 роки тому +88

      i mean it's an interpretation! i initially thought it was an echo to her friends asking THEM if they are happy now, but this version is also interesting too!

    • @mayuhmetal
      @mayuhmetal 4 роки тому +49

      it can also be seen as she's asking herself if shes happy now that she's tried to run away from her pain, or maybe now she's diving into her memories where her friends live on forever. IU has a lot of themes regarding her age like in 23, palette, and this song with her turning 28. it could be younger her asking if she's happy now that shes older, or present her asking future her if shes happy even though she lost everyone. iu musical genius making me tHINK of all the possibilities.

    • @blackpinkinyourarea3947
      @blackpinkinyourarea3947 4 роки тому +23

      I’ve always thought it was aimed at her best friends that passed... are they happy? Are they free from society’s murderous pressure that contributed to them taking their own life?

    • @Amanda.656
      @Amanda.656 4 роки тому +10

      @@blackpinkinyourarea3947 there are way too many interpretations lol ...

    • @dhaniar.a.7480
      @dhaniar.a.7480 3 роки тому +3

      me too. i realized i actually never watched the video until it really ended bcs i couldnt remember that last scene or when the EIGHT title split up

  • @Noattentionplz
    @Noattentionplz 4 роки тому +4191

    Another thing that I noticed - when the plane enters a turbulence and the emergency sign lights up it says electronic devices off - I see it as a reference to social media, where the hate comments coming from, connecting to her mad/cold look at the haters at the end. Now her friends don't need to suffer anymore from those hate comments/electronic devices as those are off on the island.

    • @AlM22
      @AlM22 4 роки тому +61

      Woahhh, amazing interpretation!

    • @nataliet.9403
      @nataliet.9403 4 роки тому +46

      Oooh I like this theory too! And I did notice the sign but didnt pay much attention to it. That's really good.

    • @bunnycitizen4753
      @bunnycitizen4753 4 роки тому +14

      woah... great point.. 👏👏👏

    • @eggyolk9285
      @eggyolk9285 4 роки тому +18

      Omg that's what I was thinking! I'm glad someone said it out xD

    • @insomnia5228
      @insomnia5228 4 роки тому +7

      That's what I thought too ❤️❤️👌😮

  • @yamiavatar2662
    @yamiavatar2662 4 роки тому +1290

    I can't stop crying, tell me I'm not the only one..

  • @mikeduplessis8069
    @mikeduplessis8069 4 роки тому +1302

    I saw a comment that confirmed something I already suspected. IU in the house flashbacks wasn't the IU character, it was IU playing Sulli. She had even hired Sulli's fashion coordinator to dress her for the role. Not only her dress was different, also her body proportions were padded to give her a different shape. Something I've never seen IU do.

    • @iskotayo1
      @iskotayo1 4 роки тому +234

      when she was laying on the carpet I swear I've seen one of sulli's picture online in the past with that similar style, and same pastel colors and ambience telling the world that she was having a fun girls night with her friends sleeping together in her house... I thought it was just my mistaken memory... I guess IU was one of the friend she was mentioned... ☹☹

    • @sugoi14
      @sugoi14 4 роки тому +73

      Annashri Jusuf you are absolutely correct. I saw it on Instagram of the girls chilling on the floor having a good time. I think Sulli uploaded it 🥺

    • @cdobbins3144
      @cdobbins3144 3 роки тому +25

      Mike, where is the comment you are referring to, Ive been rolling this M/V around in my head since my first viewing 10 days ago...5 minutes ago I came to the same assessment. The camera angles and sequencing were from UI's memory of her time spent with Sulli.

    • @j0guerrero
      @j0guerrero 3 роки тому +21

      @@cdobbins3144some memories might be from the first person POV so the person we see on cam is not her.

    • @jooniesbonsai4064
      @jooniesbonsai4064 3 роки тому +25

      Also her shadow in that dress in the starting makes it looks like she has wings, maybe she was describing sulli as an angel( lol I feel dumb) maybe it's just the dress.

  • @hikpmv
    @hikpmv 4 роки тому +2821

    With regard to the airplane hitting turbulence, the emergency message struck me as odd. "Electronic Devices Off" Usually, the message is fasten seat belt, for your safety. This is intentional. Kpop in general has had to deal with tragedies because artists are bullied online. I think the story is actually for the fans to understand that they need to turn off their "electronic devices", as it causes the turbulence in the life of IU's friends.

    • @selene4563
      @selene4563 4 роки тому +76

      Wow, totally didn't catch that! The song really had so many hidden messages.

    • @salmarahmatia19
      @salmarahmatia19 4 роки тому +9

      Woww!

    • @klipklapklop3359
      @klipklapklop3359 4 роки тому +12

      I also thought about it, but when I did a Google search apparently “electronic devices off” sign is now kinda common . So it might be another sign they wanted to convey or just a regular design they placed

    • @bunnycitizen4753
      @bunnycitizen4753 4 роки тому +8

      beautiful interpretation of that sign... 👏

    • @miki4123
      @miki4123 4 роки тому +58

      ​@@klipklapklop3359 i noticed that when IU was tapping the window of the airplane because of the lizard, someone took a picture of her as seen on the phone screen before its lights dimmed held by an anonymous hand. so maybe it was a way to show that the public's invasion of their privacy could cause turmoil, or in this case "turbulence", in their lives. nonetheless, the mv has many beautiful artistic choices...

  • @ashishplays6126
    @ashishplays6126 4 роки тому +2618

    *"Some people were arguing that this song is about IU herself and not about the death of the idols."* Maybe that could be right but I think it's about both, It reflects IU's feelings and all the pain that she went through losing her best friends.
    But at the same time, I think she has accepted it to an extent that she now knows that they will always be with her in her fond memories and that together they will be forever young.
    *I think this song is both about IU's feelings and her emotional state as well her personal acceptance of it and a hope of moving on.. Nevertheless, this all was a big part of her 28*

    • @TinasArtPage
      @TinasArtPage 4 роки тому +45

      just precious tbh I think her writing this was likely a big part of her working through the feelings and the loss... lots of poetry and music writers use their writing as a way to process without it overwhelming them completely...

    • @MyahWorld
      @MyahWorld 4 роки тому +40

      I think its both too! I mean she's 28 (Korean age) which means she's older and has lived longer than both Sulli (25) and Jonghyn (27). And Hara was 28 when she died. When I was younger, four of my aunts and uncles had died before my grandma. It was obviously hard for my grandma outliving her children. So for IU its about reflecting on herself at her age (which is still very young), as well as her friends who died very young.

    • @kkellyss1876
      @kkellyss1876 4 роки тому +32

      It will always be a huge part for her 28. It would be that white elephant if anyone want to talk abt last year but ignore the loss.
      I love how she reflect her year and express it in a art way. That's what artist do. Because the song came from her life/thought, it became something so genuine and so touching even to people don't share the same memories. That's the charm of artist writing their own song.

    • @meghashrestha6210
      @meghashrestha6210 4 роки тому +25

      Even if this mv theory is true, she won't openly admit to such issues in public so we can't say what exactly it is about. But both her 28 years and losing friends make sense.

    • @83delacruzk
      @83delacruzk 4 роки тому +24

      Agree! Although IU didn't directly mention that this is about her friends, that doesn't mean it isn't (in part). As you said, it's likely about both them and as well as her own growth/acceptance. She said that she worked closely with the director for this music video for the concept and storyline, and it's hard to ignore the symbolism and references to her precious friends.
      Similar situation with another song of hers, "Dear Name." Although IU also never directly stated it was dedicated to those lost during the Sewol tragedy, some Korean fans felt like it was. She keeps descriptions on her work vague so that the listener can come up with their own interpretations.

  • @deetha9209
    @deetha9209 4 роки тому +493

    We dance without shadows:
    What I think is , humans have shadows, but what is she is implying that her friends spirits are with her , and together they are dancing and there is no shadow because spirits don't have shadows.

    • @narayanisiware2781
      @narayanisiware2781 3 роки тому +6

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @yoonjinpark8308
      @yoonjinpark8308 3 роки тому +5

      I never thought about that and I don't know if I should be crying happy tears or sad tears right now but that's okay we can all cry together

    • @ritikakumari4626
      @ritikakumari4626 3 роки тому +4

      I was thinking same, bcoz spirit has no shadows and she talk about afterlife

  • @tenka2894
    @tenka2894 4 роки тому +250

    It make sense why she recently said her ideal type is someone healthy and lives for a long time.

    • @facttruth7571
      @facttruth7571 3 роки тому +27

      I guess their death struck her makes her realized

  • @mgnath
    @mgnath 4 роки тому +1530

    "So are you happy now? Finally happy now?" towards the haters.. that hits hard.

    • @Junko844
      @Junko844 3 роки тому +13

      Ikr

    • @davidho1470
      @davidho1470 3 роки тому +43

      it is not just only to the hater but also to herself and her friends too if you look at it in a certain angle.

    • @justsomeguywithasmolmustac9476
      @justsomeguywithasmolmustac9476 3 роки тому +40

      If you observe from a different angle it also looks like she told to the deceased actually, means they are in a safe place now rather than being in a toxic world, so 'are you happy now?' got different meaning

    • @nikkinorman4254
      @nikkinorman4254 2 роки тому +4

      I interpreted it, her asking her friends….

    • @goha9218
      @goha9218 2 роки тому +3

      It doesn't have to be for hater could be for the friend addressed in song, since living in this world was so hard ( could be cos of depression not necessarily haters)

  • @kathleensauerbreiartsite9065
    @kathleensauerbreiartsite9065 4 роки тому +1370

    I am a 76-year-old lady from Canada.
    Because I have time, I decided to learn how to speak, read and write Korean.
    To be honest I’m not very good at either yet but it opened up a world for me that I didn’t even know existed. I got interested in Korean dramas, then BTS, and then Kpop,and lucked in finding your channel..
    I really admire how you and your friend both approach whatever the topic is you’re speaking about, with integrity, decency and kindness with great knowledge.
    Obviously, because I am a grandmother one thing that has horrified me for quite a while, are the suicides we Canadian read about in Korea.
    No child should die before his/her parents, But in most cases there is no choice.
    In my heart of hearts I sympathize with those that loved the children, while the child felt that no one loved them, and felt so very much pain and loneliness.
    Depression is a horrible thing, and deserves to be addressed openly, it has to be taken out of the closet and faced face forward, By those who are suffering it, and those fools who deny it!
    Here, we in Canada have progressed a bit in regards to depression and mental illnesses, but just by drops in the bucket.
    On-line haters Should be held criminally responsible for their actions.
    This may seem harsh, but when hate results in death, there is only one way to say you are responsible.
    Thank you for this beautiful explanation of this young ladies words.
    I love the song even more, now that I fully understand the words.

    • @kathleensauerbreiartsite9065
      @kathleensauerbreiartsite9065 4 роки тому +57

      strawberry_shortcake4life
      Thank you for your kind response, I am touched by your kindness.
      If you can help just one person a day, maybe by opening a door, or smiling at a stranger as you pass them on the street with a friendly nod, you just may make that one person value that time and day.
      Don’t over think your choices. Plan as best as you can when making changes in your life. And always weigh the thought....” by doing this am I hurting anyone”, for the greater. Part your choices will be positive.
      Have a wonderful day. 🙏🏻

    • @user-rs1pf5eo5w
      @user-rs1pf5eo5w 4 роки тому +12

      That's amazing

    • @s...8881
      @s...8881 4 роки тому +33

      Woaaah.. It's inspiring to read your words.. I wish I could have u as my grandmother ~ I'm 22yo and I'm feeling like my life is about to end.. When I read your words I was like "what the hell am I doing right know i should do my best in my life to feel as peace as I read in your comment when I get my 70 yo" thanks ✌🏻

    • @kathleensauerbreiartsite9065
      @kathleensauerbreiartsite9065 4 роки тому +29

      ıllıllı MooDy ıllıllı never give up! NEVER!
      Copy my name and pm me if you need to talk with someone.
      It wasn’t always easy for me, and when I was your age it was very very hard. I came from a very very bad situation as a child, and had to teach myself to learn how to love how to respect, and how to appreciate the world around me.
      Every year in my life got a little bit better, and suddenly I realize that everything was really quite good.
      We can’t have everything that we want, but we can learn to be happy with what we have. We can learn to enjoy life even during the hard times.
      I hate the fact that anybody in this world thinks that nobody loves them. You do not have to be somebody’s child for that person to love them and to care for them and to know that they are valuable and essential to this world. Stay strong always believe that there is something better ahead and usually there is. Even if it’s just seeing a butterfly on a cloudy day !
      Smile at people do something good for somebody every day even if it’s just saying “you look good today.”
      Things have a way of turning around. So don’t go for the impossible right away look around you and see one little thing that needs improvement and work on that. Then each time you complete a task you give yourself another one and you’ll find that each time you do this you’re doing a greater and bigger thing for your life.
      Take care, and as I always told my daughter, “ You have to believe!” Be it Karma, religion or just in basic humanity.
      🙏🏻

    • @markmybirds
      @markmybirds 4 роки тому +21

      I'm a fellow Canadian, I'm actually a year older than Suga/IU. I'm 29.. (I'm also an artist :>!)
      I wish so many of people my age would read your message. I have lost so many friends from hate.. and pain. I've grown up on a military base and all my life I have watched friends and/or their parents take their own lives from their occupation being too much. I lost my own best friend when I was a teenager due to hate comments being louder than my love for her. This song is exactly how I feel even 16 years after.
      I agree that online haters should be held accountable. Thank you for leaving your message here, it makes me so proud to read this from a Canadian from an older generation. Especially because I know the older generation sometimes are harder to persuade about mental health.
      I hope you stay safe in these trying times, love from Eastern Ontario.

  • @sudiptajabinchowdhury7882
    @sudiptajabinchowdhury7882 4 роки тому +669

    I couldn't stop tearing up every time I listen to this song. As we lost Gohara, Sulli, JH on the other hand IU is suffering of losing her loved one to this cruel world, and going through depression. So as Suga has a long history of fighting through depression, OCD, and eating disorder. And these two people are still fighting against the norm and talks about it. There would not be any better artists to make this wonderful song. I miss them and love them all. 😔😔

    • @PhoenixandMuser
      @PhoenixandMuser 4 роки тому +3

      I've never heard that Suga had OCD or an eating disorder, is there a source for that, please?

    • @yummybiscuit
      @yummybiscuit 4 роки тому +11

      @@PhoenixandMuser I don't think suga has a eating disorder but he has spoke about OCD in his song "The Last"

    • @bappishahriar2551
      @bappishahriar2551 3 роки тому +2

      Suga literally roasts haters now.A savage😎

    • @sudiptajabinchowdhury7882
      @sudiptajabinchowdhury7882 3 роки тому +5

      @@PhoenixandMuser yes he had eating disorder. It was near the time after they debut. He couldn't eat out of depression and maintain a slim body cause of the industry norm. He wanted to survive the industry so bad. He once said he puffs up easily if he eats. But now he is so confident and savage, giving a dame to others is overrated for him 🤣

    • @PhoenixandMuser
      @PhoenixandMuser 3 роки тому +4

      Sudipta Jabin Chowdhury I don’t think you know what an eating disorder is. Stop spreading misinformation.

  • @spicaspicxjkjmyg4806
    @spicaspicxjkjmyg4806 4 роки тому +320

    Nicely explained!! So Sulli's stylist was the one who styled iu in this mv and the ways she dresses esp in the house scene is sulli style. Also notice the lipstick drawing on her eyes i remember sulli doing that before she liked marking a lipstick heart on her side eye.:

  • @Juan-hv9bi
    @Juan-hv9bi 4 роки тому +1113

    Suga and IU are so talented, this song is bittersweet.

    • @thezokil
      @thezokil 4 роки тому +13

      *IU and SUGA, please, it's her song, he's just along for the ride.

    • @leiris276
      @leiris276 4 роки тому +74

      @@thezokil On the road or not, he was also part of the writing and production of the song, there is no need to take away credits and since the main comment is not doing it, I do not understand why you do it. Just enjoy and don't be angry about little things.

    • @thezokil
      @thezokil 4 роки тому +4

      @@leiris276 because it sounds like any other IU Track, I legitimately could not have told you there was a change in production between this and Blueming, so even if he did produce the song, do you really give credit when it sounds like any other IU single of the past 4years.

    • @imcroissant9690
      @imcroissant9690 4 роки тому +38

      @@thezokil
      Its not that deep but go off.
      She or he wasnt discrediting Iu, yes it is her song but its just a switch of names not that deep....if he or she was more of a fan to suga its probably why they mentioned suga first.....but iu did great since its her song and no one is discrediting her

    • @leiris276
      @leiris276 4 роки тому +19

      @@thezokil To change or not in production (which I did not say), does not mean that he has not worked with IU on the song, which gives him credits and does not take any away from her. So why do you want to act like he hasn't worked or just been given a few letters to get involved?
      I honestly don't listen to IU, just BTS, but if it was the other way around (a suga song with ft IU) and I saw a comment as the main one I wouldn't complain, then chill out, no big deal
      sorry for the bible xx

  • @lucciaherrera5327
    @lucciaherrera5327 4 роки тому +568

    This also means that this song is terribly important to IU and she have accepted to share it with SUGA and the WORLD. im so emotional

    • @dangchauanh
      @dangchauanh 4 роки тому +49

      @withchanwoo The idea and concept was built by IU, Suga is music producer

    • @dararariiii2567
      @dararariiii2567 4 роки тому +14

      @withchanwoo He didnt came up with it. It's clearly IU's idea.

    • @MsJC525
      @MsJC525 4 роки тому +27

      @withchanwoo I believe your enthusiasm to give majority of the credit to one person is totally misplaced. Please note that songwriter, producer and arrangement credits belong to 3 individuals - IU, SUGA and El CAPITXN (Jang Yi-Jeong). Let's not discount the effort and talent of the others who worked hard to make this collaboration a reality. Remember, Wikipedia is your friend: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_(song). As for the music video itself, I believe the concept/idea is from IU and her team. The production crew of the MV are credited towards the end of the MV as well.

    • @iamstela4012
      @iamstela4012 4 роки тому +6

      @withchanwoo lol you can check lyric and Composer is by IU her self.
      Suga is just Producer it and do rap

    • @alexbro4187
      @alexbro4187 4 роки тому +10

      @@iamstela4012 actually if you check he is also composer and lyricist.

  • @mizzzlind
    @mizzzlind 3 роки тому +91

    IU's facial gesture in the end of the video is no joke. Her ability in expressing her emotions is superb !

  • @user-bc7wb9hj2y
    @user-bc7wb9hj2y 4 роки тому +381

    IU is really an artist. It's hard to come up with something that has two ways of interpretation, express your feelings and sounds good to random listener. Also I cried so much...
    Thank you for your work.

  • @egomots7863
    @egomots7863 4 роки тому +405

    I cried listening to it, a happy vibe with a sad meaning, a farewell and moving on but also remembering them

  • @elidimitrova6037
    @elidimitrova6037 4 роки тому +196

    The lizard, the dragon, the lyrics... it’s too big of a coincidence not to be about the friends she has lost

    • @sarroumarbeu6810
      @sarroumarbeu6810 3 роки тому +10

      It's not a coincidence.. it's explicitly about her lost friends.

  • @HappyMsTree
    @HappyMsTree 3 роки тому +179

    Not sure it has been mentioned, but the release date of Eight was on the 6th May 2020, 8 years after the release of Peach (IU's first song about Sulli) on the 4th May 2012, would also indicate this is a timely remembrance of Sulli.
    I also felt the abrupt sudden finish of the track (some people complained about it being too short) was intentional. The abrupt silence was unexpected and acts as a powerful motif on the idea of sudden loss, unfulfilled, incomplete. The cruel reality that is contradictory to the romanticism of 'Forever we young'. The contrasting use of loud sound vs dead/hollow noise at the beginning and especially towards the end, along with the compelling suggestive visuals poignantly conveys a heavy-hearted soliloquy that is both nuanced and concise. A heartbreaking introspection on the infinite struggles of the living, coping with love, loss, missing them, commemorate them, hoping for the impossibility of true happiness again despite memories that are both happy but full of sadness (and regret).

  • @melique9380
    @melique9380 4 роки тому +521

    I hope that her and suga are good friends even after this , she probably need new friends around her right now.

    • @Eggspensive4567
      @Eggspensive4567 4 роки тому +45

      Yea me too. Friends keep you sane during storms

    • @Aque1234
      @Aque1234 4 роки тому +37

      She has Yoo In Na and Kang Ha Na too who are her best friends

    • @ogkpopper
      @ogkpopper 4 роки тому +8

      Me too!

    • @taketwo9623
      @taketwo9623 3 роки тому +33

      They probably are , they both felt really comfortable around each other's and they are of the same age so they could relate to each other more
      So yeah I guess they are friends

  • @lydine3318
    @lydine3318 4 роки тому +445

    One of the first things I thought when I heard the title was about how close it is to the word "Hate". And with the haunting double meaning of the lyrics "are you happy now", I am speechless.

    • @JemsaiToam
      @JemsaiToam 4 роки тому +4

      I also didn't think about this. Thanks.

    • @mbakjiejie
      @mbakjiejie 4 роки тому +2

      Omg I didn't notice that before😭

    • @nataliiatarsis711
      @nataliiatarsis711 4 роки тому +10

      Yeea if you think about it H8 = hate, just like W8 is wait and M8 is mate....so that final scene of I being separated from E may have another meaning since there's H hidden there too for H8

    • @vildingqueenwitheverybias8827
      @vildingqueenwitheverybias8827 4 роки тому

      Wow beautiful analysis

    • @chanjanie2229
      @chanjanie2229 4 роки тому

      whoa thanks for pointing this out

  • @elinfelicia382
    @elinfelicia382 3 роки тому +113

    I never knew IU were friends with all of them. I can’t imagine how devastated she must’ve been hearing the news one by one. This made me love this song even more 🥺.

  • @luisevdh1625
    @luisevdh1625 4 роки тому +81

    I think the airplane could also represent the thing keeping them relatively safe from the storm. SUGA and IU still feel the turbulence but it is not as dangerous for them as for the lizard on the window

  • @unknown32523
    @unknown32523 4 роки тому +366

    I think the 27 pearls on her arm represent the 27 tiles Jonghyun had on his arm in the Lonely MV

    • @ogkpopper
      @ogkpopper 4 роки тому +12

      Oh don't do this to me... this is so true

    • @xfrxrk
      @xfrxrk 2 роки тому +1

      Destroying your 365 likes

  • @tba978
    @tba978 4 роки тому +537

    ah, this brought tears to my eyes, i hate society

    • @Hala-cq5lr
      @Hala-cq5lr 4 роки тому +20

      Same people hate without knowing what these idols are feeling this is terrible I hope they are in a better place now🙏

    • @alicalutfie8682
      @alicalutfie8682 4 роки тому +7

      I'm crying 😭😭

    • @fatemazohora3211
      @fatemazohora3211 4 роки тому +4

      Well we are the 'society'

  • @YasminRHonor
    @YasminRHonor 4 роки тому +75

    I agree to his interpretation, in addition I think the lizard turned into the dragon after it fell from the plane. That in the after life, that we can be what we wanted to be.
    IU is a genius for releasing a great MV as this. She may not get over with the heartbreak brought by the passing of her friends so soon, but I hope she can find the strength to go on and move on so she continue inspiring people. I love you IU.
    To those who still find pleasure in hating and bullying idols, are you happy now?

  • @liac9412
    @liac9412 4 роки тому +69

    IU is always exploring different geners of music but one thing that stays constant is that her lyrics and MVs have deep meanings
    This is why I stan her

    • @yuliafatmanst4279
      @yuliafatmanst4279 3 роки тому +3

      So true... the meaning is so deep in every music she made

  • @ashishplays6126
    @ashishplays6126 4 роки тому +568

    I seriously cried listening to this song, having such a fresh and happy vibe underlying a rather sad and heartfelt message. Even though we all don't know for sure towards who this song is dedicated by IU. *But I think everyone of us can interpret our own meaning out if it. And isn't that just the beauty of music? And overall just Art itself that it's open for interpretation and means something different to everyone, You can listen to a song and think about it the way you want to.*
    I do hope, that people understand the deep message and that this song helps in creating awareness towards the spreading of hate comments and such and that some intivatives could be taken against it and that we wouldn't have to see any other idol giving up his/her life.

  • @b1000days
    @b1000days 4 роки тому +382

    I don’t usually cry while listening to music, but this song has made me tear up every single time I’ve heard it.

  • @jeng151
    @jeng151 4 роки тому +180

    As an American who is unable to understand all the nuances in the video, I really appreciate your explanation of much of the symbolism and your take on it. I picked up on several of the more obvious allusions myself, but the specifically Korean ones were lost to me. I am an older fan, and have lived through so many painful periods of loss. It is hard to watch younger people have to live through these things as well. Wishing peace and love to everyone.

  • @FOSquadKPOP
    @FOSquadKPOP 4 роки тому +169

    Wow🙏

  • @cherryluv2867
    @cherryluv2867 4 роки тому +72

    I got shivers down my body when he explained IU last 3 facial expressions 😱.

  • @frakis
    @frakis 4 роки тому +134

    I just wanted to say that when I saw her video and looked up the English lyrics, I ugly cried. I lost one of my best friends who suffered 20 years with Hydrocephalus and spina bifida. When people said be wouldn’t live past age 5, God’s graces were upon him and he lived til 20. He was bound in a wheelchair and had an oxygen tank with him at all times, but he lived the best life before he died. He did everything he wanted and more. Even when he was in a lot of pain, he was always asking me how I was doing and how he just loves hearing about people’s days. He passed away last year and just hearing this song just reminded me that even though it hurts being without him here, I am happy he’s able to walk, run, and do more up in heaven. I love him always and I’ll miss him forever. Rest in peace Boy, I love you forever 💚

    • @CutegirlAlways
      @CutegirlAlways 3 роки тому +1

      Omg you made me cry so hard! Don’t worry he will be there with you forever! 😓❤️

  • @angelicaquero5205
    @angelicaquero5205 3 роки тому +35

    I'm in tears while watching. I wish I could hug IU. I felt her pain and sorrow.

  • @meooorw8801
    @meooorw8801 4 роки тому +57

    their passing hasn't really sinked in with me yet
    then iu released this
    and it has finally sinked in

  • @yu.czennie
    @yu.czennie 4 роки тому +193

    i actualy cried, i can't imagine the amount of pain that she has been trought.
    even if almost 3 years have passed i still can't get over jonghyun's dead~

  • @yarenm4492
    @yarenm4492 4 роки тому +200

    To know that she wrote an essay before making it into a song makes it even more sad. She wrote it in a moment where she was filled with pain, regret, helplessness, and sorrow. She wrote this with the listener in mind, where she told her emotions and asking if they are happy now with what they had done. I am so thankful that she is such a strong person and is trying her best and not giving up.
    I cried so much and I really appreciate this video because I saw a lot of comments saying "I don't what it's about but I love it". People need to know the origin of this song. It's not a spring fling song, this is a painful thing that has really happened and this is IU telling us how she got affected by it. They are not just celebrities, they are people.

    • @cw_hyuk
      @cw_hyuk 4 роки тому +2

      IU is known to write her own diaries which is most likely why there was an essay.. I cannot imagine what she would be feeling when she actually wrote it down. For me, I'll never be able to write it down, I'll probably destroy the paper with my tears :(

  • @lei5912
    @lei5912 4 роки тому +32

    The "Are you happy now" at the end gave me chills, I didn't even think of that

  • @sanakim6221
    @sanakim6221 2 роки тому +18

    I never knew this song has a big meaning. I just started stanning IU and this literally made me cry. I love you IU. I really am.

  • @Dstergurl09
    @Dstergurl09 4 роки тому +147

    This song is so deep. I've never listened to iu before but I think i Stan!

    • @sunrise420
      @sunrise420 4 роки тому +8

      You should check out BBIBBI and the explanation of that mv too! IU is amazing. I'd also highly recommend Jonghyun and Sulli's music, these three are some of my favorite artists, their writing touches me very deeply. Jonghyun wrote the song Gloomy Clock for IU to perform, and IU wrote the song Peach about Sulli

    • @freyah7361
      @freyah7361 4 роки тому +2

      .. You'll never regret it..

    • @zozofaustine4505
      @zozofaustine4505 4 роки тому +3

      I just woke up with this song in my head and now im hooked

  • @thatperson7324
    @thatperson7324 4 роки тому +165

    I swear everything IU does is a masterpiece.
    Fight me

  • @mishiru1883
    @mishiru1883 3 роки тому +17

    When you found IU as a singer after watching her in the small screen for a long time and the first thing you found was this song😭

  • @supriyaathawale
    @supriyaathawale 2 роки тому +4

    Bro i literally cried when the girl in white sat on the freakin dragon, like- when the meaning hit me, man... i was bawling.

  • @ThanhMaiOFFICIAL
    @ThanhMaiOFFICIAL 4 роки тому +197

    That’s the beauty of true art. It’s open to interpretation and means something different for everyone. This is an example of true creativity 🙌💯

    • @selene4563
      @selene4563 4 роки тому +4

      Totally agree. I love the interpretations and theories that people have come up with from the lyrics and MV, comes to show how much the song made people think.

  • @luv4risa444
    @luv4risa444 4 роки тому +46

    9:53 this part gave me chills when I realized y she gave that stare. I love how she's staring at the haters who killed Sulli and the others through their words.

  • @dk__4833
    @dk__4833 2 роки тому +5

    IU is one of the strongest person I have known

  • @JohnCiaccio
    @JohnCiaccio 4 роки тому +10

    Great explanation! Became a fan of IU after watching Hotel Del Luna and was struck by not only her beauty and fashion sense but that a 28 (26 at the time?) could make you believe she has already experience such a full life. Incredible actress and singer. Their are people we call "Old Souls". That is a person who seems to have the experience of some else that has lived a long life and has experienced much in their life. She is definitely one of these people..

  • @Doremifasol_sun
    @Doremifasol_sun 4 роки тому +284

    I really hope that the hater/fake fan understands that what there doing can cause bad moments and can finish with death IU really represented well the emotion of losing a friend by hate also really loved that you explained the video bc it’s more that just a mv it’s a story ly all 💚😊👋

  • @MissSudangirl
    @MissSudangirl 4 роки тому +199

    *NAMJOON FORGOT TO WARN US THAT THIS SONG WILL MAKE US CRY*

    • @hatrovated
      @hatrovated 4 роки тому +1

      Fr tho

    • @tehnsaiiixoxo
      @tehnsaiiixoxo 4 роки тому +14

      saroxoxo Like how could this be a great drive song if you can't see the road because of crying over the lyrics lol

  • @_smile_1938
    @_smile_1938 4 роки тому +17

    The "So are you happy now, Finally happy now are you" might also indicate to her asking herself if she's happy now that she live through her memories again

  • @ahnrina13
    @ahnrina13 4 роки тому +135

    is there a reason why the girl in white who rides the dragon is drawn in 2D while IU in the plane is in 3D? not gonna lie I cried first time watching that scene in the MV

    • @heehaaww
      @heehaaww 4 роки тому +71

      I suspect it might because the 3D represents how IU is still alive while Hara, Sulli, and Jonghyun have passed on into her memories

    • @desmondzeng2010
      @desmondzeng2010 3 роки тому +46

      We live in different dimensions hence we never cross paths

    • @aditiparmar6097
      @aditiparmar6097 3 роки тому +15

      Like he said, it’s a dream within a dream...

  • @MissSudangirl
    @MissSudangirl 4 роки тому +55

    *THIS SONG IS SO BEAUTIFUL IN EVERY WAY. YOONGI AND IU CREATED MAGIC HERE*

  • @Shai_log
    @Shai_log 4 роки тому +95

    I was literally watching the music video again and thinking “hmm I see a new dkdktv video coming”

  • @christinenguyen7860
    @christinenguyen7860 4 роки тому +17

    When she talks about the orange island, I wonder if that’s her love of Jeju during Hyori’s Bed and Breakfast. She said she felt extremely happy being on the island so maybe this is a reference to that

  • @lithong1200
    @lithong1200 3 роки тому +20

    Really liked how IU's MVs are full of depth. Thank you DKDKTV for the decoding and explanation. It's really unfortunate that Jonghyun, Sulli and Hara left the world at such young age. Hope that they are now in a better place, like the orange island in IU's Eight.

  • @bltotrs92
    @bltotrs92 4 роки тому +44

    I loved how respectful you treated her dead friends memory

  • @khwan3497
    @khwan3497 4 роки тому +63

    When I heard this song first time They I didn’t have lyrics on but still got emotional and now when I’m looking at lyrics I cried my ass out

  • @aashkaj7466
    @aashkaj7466 3 роки тому +10

    The below paragraph was my opinion before i saw the video. It is a testament to IU's sincerity, and genius, that even without understanding the language, i sensed most of what she was trying to say. Her music has soul!
    That last expression is very powerful! Its like she wants to reassure her friends that she is happy if they have found peace, but then she realizes that they may be finally free, but she is never going to see them again,
    I think that is what the juxtaposition is about, the happiness of their memories, the celebration of their freedom, is all there. but she is time and again reminded that she is not going to see them again in reality.
    The dragon is Jonghyun because yong is korean for dragon, and the girl who is finally happy, bounding and leaping up to the bright happy orange sky of hope and joy (that she could not find before) is Sulli. So IU is kinda happy for them. She is sending them off and is describing this joy of their liberation, as well as the innocence and happiness of their memories with the color Orange. There is this almost loving maternal touch to her lyrics here..she's like "my dear are you finally at peace, go be happy...you will now never age. You will remain young and happy in my memory "
    But then again she comes back to reality, and thinks from her perspective and feels lonely, and a little mad at them for leaving her so abruptly. She is letting herself feel the selfishness of wanting them with her, and also the selflessness of wanting their happiness
    She says that it is a nightmare to be in so much pain when she is seeing them in her memories, but now that is the only place where she will see them now, so she doesn't want to wake up.
    I swear i could not bear to, so i did not read all the lyrics..just the music, her voice, her expressions, and the mention of the color orange...it made me cry. and i dont cry easily...i did not know jonghyun and still cried.
    Orange brings peace. happiness, and also there is some melancholy woeful nostalgia for the times that we have left behind. The people that were.
    The upbeat track is also IU's promise to her friends that she will live well for them, she will carry them in her heart, and make them proud. This woman is pure and genius!!

  • @withlovemare
    @withlovemare 4 роки тому +21

    I'm so torn up by Sulli, Hara, and Jonghyun's deaths as a fan. I can only imagine how IU must feel.

  • @lizroman14
    @lizroman14 4 роки тому +69

    I cried all throughout this explanation 😞😢. It still hurts honestly. When I first heard this song I had no context so I thought it was a happy song then I started scrolling through tiktok today and found out these theories and it broke me. I can’t tell you how much I cried when I found about Jonghyun’s death. I will always hold a special place for him in my heart. 💙 As for Goo Hará and Sulli May your beautiful souls Rest In Peace. 💞🤍🖤

  • @lovingjoon8360
    @lovingjoon8360 4 роки тому +53

    this song made me cry so many times :(

  • @animegirl1414_random
    @animegirl1414_random 4 роки тому +10

    That analyzation of her expressions and the double meaning of the "Are you happy now?" to her late friends, and the haters hits hard

  • @gracepiette
    @gracepiette 4 роки тому +6

    As someone who can relate to IUs story and the losses that she has encountered I really appreciate you making this video explanation. Though I can see how other explanations are possible, I believe that this was the meaning behind the song. She does a beautiful job of putting into words the questioning and confusing emotions that come along with suicide and your explanation helped me to even better understand what she is trying to say. I hope this song can teach everyone to love a little deeper and appreciate those around us even more. So we can all live under that orange sun

  • @TinasArtPage
    @TinasArtPage 4 роки тому +53

    This explains the heart ache I felt listening without any understanding of the Korean words and why tears instantly came to my eyes... I really hope IU has someone to talk to to deal with so much loss in such a short time

  • @Hala-cq5lr
    @Hala-cq5lr 4 роки тому +51

    And after all what idols has been through of heartbreaks and disappointments , people are still hating on her 😡 so heartless I hope she moves on and be happy but never forget her beautiful friends 💜💜💜💜💜

  • @Ash-uf6hk
    @Ash-uf6hk 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks to this, now I'm getting goosebump when I listened to the song and watched the MV..IU is such a strong woman. ..

  • @iambarryallen
    @iambarryallen 2 роки тому +2

    Damn Iu is so deep. Thanks so much for this!

  • @lunasylnodel
    @lunasylnodel 4 роки тому +30

    honestly just hearing the first line "so are you happy now" makes me emotional

  • @Hala-cq5lr
    @Hala-cq5lr 4 роки тому +64

    This song is so emotional It tricks you in thinking it’s a happy song by the music and the beats but it’s kinda sad tho 😞 this collaboration was so amazing and touching IU and Suga did a great job 💜💜💜💜💜👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @aryagandhijennifer7040
    @aryagandhijennifer7040 4 роки тому +10

    5:20 Or the shadows can represent the dark times or past that they've gone through. So for them to dance without the shadows means that they non longer have to worry about those darkness that followed them around and just be happy together the way they are now.

  • @aari9756
    @aari9756 4 роки тому +13

    I've never cried like I did today after listening to this song. This song really makes me want to thank my family, friends and loved ones for being there and not giving up.

  • @anagi5561
    @anagi5561 4 роки тому +68

    I first saw the vids of IU letting someone else hear this song first before the released date...those listeners were confused on why the melody is happy but the lyrics were sad....and IU confirmed it that it was a sad song...so from then ive gotten even curious on WHY...then the song was released and ive seen the lyrics, i understood why esp from previous tragic events happened on her...yeah. it really indeed a sad song...😭
    Lyrics says about how she wants to only think about her happy moments with someone who can never be with her anymore...😭

    • @chelsea1456
      @chelsea1456 4 роки тому

      Iyang G those people are from her fanclub 😊

    • @laila1752
      @laila1752 4 роки тому

      @@chelsea1456which video??

  • @liagoeson8106
    @liagoeson8106 4 роки тому +37

    I was also thinking about Jonghyun being 27 (28 in Korea) when he passed away .. maybe it's just a coincidence, but who knows.

  • @_mapIe_
    @_mapIe_ 3 роки тому +2

    2:33 So are you happy now. Finally happy now are you.
    2:33 So are you happy now. You are now happy, finally.

  • @purpleeuphoria7535
    @purpleeuphoria7535 2 роки тому +1

    Everytime I watch this , i literally sobb !!! This is sad and comforting at the same time

  • @indya4115
    @indya4115 4 роки тому +33

    Absolutely loved this theoretical approach! Personally, I take the video as both theory’s, but that’s just me. IU has indeed grown up, and all of these friends that she has lost were apart of her journey. Not only is she accepting her friends passing away and is finally at peace with it, but she is also fully embracing what has happened within her 28 years and is thankful for all of the memories she has had (including with her friends that have passed) even if they were less than happy ones.

  • @greentea17
    @greentea17 4 роки тому +49

    this song is happy-sad. highly respect to korean mv, artist, creative. this is why I loveeee kpop!

  • @Naomi-dy5xd
    @Naomi-dy5xd 4 роки тому +12

    Omg! I'm literally in tears. I will keep IU in my prayers...I hope that she along with the families I Goo Hara, Jonghyun and Sulli get the love and support that need and that they heal.💛 This also made me realise what I almost out my friends through...twice..so thank you to IU and Suga for this❤

  • @n_z_a
    @n_z_a 4 роки тому +4

    Whether IU wrote this song/dedicated it for her friends or not - i think all of us that have lost our friends/family to tragic incidents relate the lyrics to loss. Fairly new to KPOP and so I wasnt aware that all those idols mentioned in the video were IU's friends but when I first read the lyrics, I was reminded of my deceased friend and so it's the only interpretation that I find when I listen to this song. It's bittersweet, the part where she says something along the lines of "our conversations aren't sad anymore" particularly hits hard. But it's a beautiful song, I like to also think of the dead as 'forever young'. When I think of my friend, I don't see him aging in my memories. He's still 18.

  • @imenen1568
    @imenen1568 4 роки тому +31

    This hits hard 😭 I hope that IU can be happy she really deserves everything good

  • @eo638
    @eo638 4 роки тому +80

    @DKDKTV , would you also say that Suga's "forever is a sandcastle" refers to how forever is like a dream, but also very fragile and can be washed away by waves suddenly, referring to the next line about how farewells are like an 'emergency text'?

  • @pinayeonni
    @pinayeonni 2 роки тому +2

    Wow! IU is really deep and talented. She can always turn her emotions into beautiful songs - be it happy or emotional song.

  • @kiki246810
    @kiki246810 4 роки тому +12

    This was how I interpreted the MV when I first saw it too. I feel the animated girl in the forest wasn't her or didn't drawn to resemble her, so it must have been someone else. I didn't know about the nickname so that explained the lizard. Even though the song was upbeat, the lyrics reflect sorrow and yearning. The machine indicated that the whole MV was in an alternative world or her mind and not real. It was really good and heartbreaking to watch. And yea I agree with the interpretation of the ending scene.

  • @michelecfeehan
    @michelecfeehan 4 роки тому +4

    I love that Eight on it's side is the symbol for infinity. Meaning, they will always be a part of each other. "Infinity is something we are introduced to in our math classes, and later on we learn that infinity can also be used in physics, philosophy, social sciences, etc. Infinity is characterized by a number of uncountable objects or concepts which have no limits or size. This concept can be used to describe something huge and boundless. It has been studied by plenty of scientists and philosophers of the world, since the early Greek and early Indian epochs. In writing, infinity can be noted by a specific mathematical sign known as the infinity symbol (∞) created by John Wallis, an English mathematician who lived and worked in the 17th century."

  • @Lena-sk5xh
    @Lena-sk5xh 4 роки тому +24

    Thank you for giving this interpretation respectfully and keeping it on your channel despite no profit. I was there for Love Poem in Seoul Day 2.. I saw how hearbroken she was. And giving this perspective somehow makes me feel worried but also glad for our unnie, for her to be able to find some sort of catharsis with her music. May those who have passed rest in peace~

  • @kylieng4617
    @kylieng4617 4 роки тому +15

    This gave me so much chills it's crazy 😭

  • @kedeeky
    @kedeeky 4 роки тому +8

    Damn. I’ll never be able to hear this song the same way again. Beautiful analysis.

  • @shemontemayor3224
    @shemontemayor3224 4 роки тому +7

    Very well said!!! I am literary crying right now. I just love how IU treasures her friends!!!

  • @shreenidhi6400
    @shreenidhi6400 4 роки тому +35

    GET THE DAMN TISSUES HERE

  • @pedromendesrbd
    @pedromendesrbd 3 роки тому +1

    The fact that the girl is rescued by the dragon and goes flying with him is a simble of Jonghyun coming to welcome Sulli/Hara in the afterlife. As he sadly passed away before them, he came to comfort them and say they'll be safe with him.

  • @TheeGaoSter
    @TheeGaoSter 2 роки тому +1

    That was deep AF. No wonder she's Koreans little sister. So many symbolic meanings in her pieces of art.

  • @sannevandenheuvel5635
    @sannevandenheuvel5635 4 роки тому +16

    I cried the whole way through this explained, I'm gonna watch something funny now

  • @rosseedrz3922
    @rosseedrz3922 4 роки тому +9

    OMG I got goosebumps and tears at the end, when you said about her expressions😯😰😭

  • @daisylynbarnachea7337
    @daisylynbarnachea7337 4 роки тому +5

    first time i heard it and it gives me goosebumps. such a wonderful song to send a message to the world how we should love and respect each other

  • @doraleong9333
    @doraleong9333 4 роки тому +15

    At first I thought that it was a beautiful song (as per IU fashion) but now after watching this video I realised how much meaning it had and how it affected her and a lot of people... Its really saddening how I never realised this before and now it made me more aware of her situation
    But I think as netizens and other people who are not the 'haters' (no offense to anyone at all) we shouldn't tell them to 'die' or 'be punished' because I'm sure by now they might have learnt their lesson and us saying that to them might cause the cycle to repeat again
    May Sulli, Hara and Jonghyun rest in peace 🙏🙏🙏 and may all of us have the heart and conscience to not do that to other people as well 💪💪💪