The true meaning of SORROW | First Playthrough | MGS3 - Finale

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  • @vegaswithdrawal4132
    @vegaswithdrawal4132 Рік тому +13

    Make sure you grab the popcorn for MGS4! The cutscenes are the longest in the series but very, very entertaining!

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      hahaha I have heard about the 90 minute +/- cut scene towards the end!

  • @Fawnxo420
    @Fawnxo420 11 місяців тому +6

    that means when Ocelot was going to shoot snake before the sorrow boss it would have been a blank

    • @mookiestewart3776
      @mookiestewart3776 4 місяці тому +1

      Yup , he was an American op the entire time and no way he was going to kill americas new up and coming best operative . It’s almost like he was out there to test snake along with the boss. This game is essentially snakes graduation party but he’s so pissed that it backfired on them.

  • @lev3271
    @lev3271 3 місяці тому +1

    one of Best play through I've ever watched,
    I wish u a many sub's and viewers

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  2 місяці тому +1

      Sorry for the slow response. Been quite ill recently.
      I really appreciate the kind words, means a lot ❤️

  • @bemindful924
    @bemindful924 Рік тому +2

    Grats on finishing MGS3! You pretty much understand what's going on and MGS4 will wrap things up with a bang. Personally I like the controls in MGS4 better and I think you'll have no trouble adjusting from the start.

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      Thanks buddy for the continued support. I had a blast. 2 more videos to wrap up mgs3 are on the way and mgs4 will start recording within the next couple of weeks

  • @pearlprincetv
    @pearlprincetv Рік тому +4

    Replying to your comment, there is no alternative way to save her. She dies regardless, although I am not sure if you knew. Every Boss you face and you defeat them with no lethal weapons, you will obtain their camo w/ certain buffs relating to their powers.
    But yes, the salute to the Boss’ grave made me tear up. This game holds a special place in my heart and I know others can say the same. Awesome play though my friend, I appreciate you so much for this 🙏🏽

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому +2

      Yeah I am glad that I did at least do it correctly and I did it in way that felt right with the less lethal approach. Interesting, what sort of buffs we talking about?
      Yeah I can certainly understand now why its so held in such high regard. I have a review video coming out on Friday to wrap this up. Thanks for your views and comments throughout this series. Not done just yet, MGS4 will be coming to the channel soon :-).

    • @pearlprincetv
      @pearlprincetv Рік тому

      @@Welchy-TV oh man it’s been a while since I played, I may have forgotten the buffs haha and omg when you mentioned MGS4 play though, im very excited to see this! So good 🔥

  • @g2g591
    @g2g591 7 місяців тому +1

    If you do decide to replay, there is a hint as to who the Boss's son is. Its in a call to Eva very early in the cave.

  • @darkermisae
    @darkermisae Рік тому +1

    Welcome to the club :(
    You killed the boss too. It is kojimas madness! we all have to go trough that

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I am happy that I didn't make the wrong call by killing her after doing what I felt, was the right thing to do by doing a non-lethal fight with her. I would have been so mad haha

    • @mookiestewart3776
      @mookiestewart3776 4 місяці тому

      @@Welchy-TVman the entire point of that scene is to MAKE YOU DO IT. You’re supposed to feel bad and “hopeless”. It ties right into the message of the entire series . If you don’t personally pull the trigger you can’t really empathize with big boss and why he became the person that he was.

  • @DownUnderThunder
    @DownUnderThunder 10 місяців тому +1

    That twist hit me hard

  • @lshadowblaze
    @lshadowblaze Рік тому

    Good job at getting some counters against the Boss. Seen a lotvof streamers resort to sniping her. You can counter her attacks when she runs at you, pressing punch or grab (don't remember which button) at the right time when she grabs you.

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      Yeah I will be honest, it was likely more luck than judgement that I got those counters in but it will was still cool either way haha. Yeah it felt wrong to just try and gun her down, even though the end result was the same in that we kill her with her own weapon, it still felt like the right call to use tranquilizers only.

  • @Vashjaeger
    @Vashjaeger Рік тому +3

    Eva's last speech is so emotional, and it's interesting that we still don't know who the voice actress is.

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      For real, she wasn't in the credits or anything?

    • @Vashjaeger
      @Vashjaeger Рік тому +1

      It is credited as Suzetta Miñet, however it is a pseudonym for the still unidentified voice actress.
      For the original Metal Gear Solid most VAs used pseudonyms because of the SAG guidelines.

    • @virtualsnake1994
      @virtualsnake1994 Рік тому +1

      @@Vashjaeger david hayter (solid snake's/big boss' voice) said that may come to know in the near future who she is. he knows her personally and she always wanted to remain unknown but apparently she might be open to revelation.

    • @IamtheLexx
      @IamtheLexx 5 місяців тому +1

      It's probably Jodi Benson, aka Ariel the Little Mermaid lol She might not want to be known because MGS3 wasn't exactly family friendly.

    • @mookiestewart3776
      @mookiestewart3776 4 місяці тому

      @@IamtheLexxI don’t think it has anything to do with her personal wishes. She’s likely union and contracted with Disney and if they had proof it was her it could fuck with her career at the time.

  • @BlackFlightNY
    @BlackFlightNY 3 місяці тому

    In the Nintendo Switch version, there’s 100 “yoshi” toys you have to find/shoot to unlock a suprise!

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  3 місяці тому +1

      @@BlackFlightNY I had no idea this was even on the switch 😂😂

    • @BlackFlightNY
      @BlackFlightNY 3 місяці тому

      @@Welchy-TV when you look at a yoshi in 1st person and start a codec call, Major Zero explains the history of “yoshi” to snake and everyone chimes in on convincing Snake to find all of them 😂

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  3 місяці тому +1

      @@BlackFlightNY hahaha that's quality. Love that.

  • @seamusburke639
    @seamusburke639 10 місяців тому +1

    God this ending kills me every time.

  • @andrewgallacher8994
    @andrewgallacher8994 Рік тому

    At the end, there is only one outcome, no other ending. doing it non lethally just means you get her camo for a new game+. she dies either way. It is believed by many that the son that The Boss is talking about is actually Ocelot. the age is around the same age for him to be her son. there is hidden RI sequences in cutscenes to go first person and after you kill the boss. you can see her ghost next to the Sorrow. The gun at the end with Ocelot has multiple endings though, and a unlockable if you pick the right gun instead of left.
    And when you get given the title of Big Boss, there is another hidden R1 sequence to which you can see Ocelot outside the window congratulating you on getting the reward XD. So many things that only those who have played it SO much will ever get to see haha

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      I am glad that the only outcome there is for Boss to die, but still felt right to at least try and do it non-lethal. That would be a mad turn of events if Ocelot turned out to be her son. Without spoiling whether or not that is true, can you confirm if it is ever revealed who her son is? Obviously without saying who it is lol.
      That is so cool. There is a video I found called secret theatre or something. I am planning on doing a watchalong/reaction video to it so I can see all the extra bits I missed and give me thoughts on them. That will be out next week. Review of this game comes out on Friday.

    • @andrewgallacher8994
      @andrewgallacher8994 Рік тому

      @@Welchy-TV It is never revealed specifically so the closest we get is in MGS 3 itself when EVA calls snake saying Ocelot is the son of a legendary soldier. That is where the theory comes from but nothing is 100% confirmed on who her son is.
      That theater will show all the possible cutscenes in the game yeah I cant remember if the HD Collection has them all unlocked instantly, in the original you had to see them in game first to see them in the theater

    • @vegaswithdrawal4132
      @vegaswithdrawal4132 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Welchy-TVThe game only gives you two clues as to who the son is. What the Boss says here, and a codec call from EVA. I tried posting the link earlier to that call, but YT must have deleted it. It's never mentioned again in the entire series. MGS3 is king when it comes to 4th wall breaking and interesting codec calls. If you're ever bored and find yourself playing through again, check em out. You can even interrogate guards for useful info like alert cancellation frequencies, air strike support and tips on finding hidden items!

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      Ahh ok so its just people trying to connect the dots. Looking forward to seeing all these moments you have all been telling me about haha :-)

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      Yeah I will probably play this back again when the HD collection comes out and I will definitely make a concerted effort to play this differently. Do more CQC and make sure I check in regularly with HQ and get more information about the characters and situations I find myself in. Air Strike Support!? haha

  • @sword4005
    @sword4005 Рік тому

    some fun facts three silver-white snakes can be found lurking near each of the logs in the final battle with the boss. Their names are Solid, Liquid and Solidus. They taste outstanding but are very difficult to capture (more specifically, very difficult to find amongst the white flowers
    When Colonel Volgin is about to torture Snake, depending on how many serious injuries Snake has suffered, the player will get a certain response. For many serious injuries, Volgin will say, "You're a tough one my friend, a lesser man would be dead by now." For a moderate amount of serious injuries, Volgin will say, "Hmm... you've certainly seen your share of battles. Consider yourself lucky. I am about to show you what hell is really like." And for very few serious injuries, Volgin will say, "What a beautiful body you have, like a newborn baby. But not for long..."
    After the player delivers the final blow to The Boss, press R1 when the horse neighs, and they shall see The Boss and The Sorrow as ghostly apparitions watching Snake, smiling at him, as they disappear into the air. This is one of the hidden scenes not indicated by the R1 some others are during the award ceremony with the President, if the player presses R1 and looks through the window they will see Ocelot looking in and doing his signature salute, and finally when snake salutes The Boss grave, the player can press R1 and see a First Person View of Snake's tears

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      Some very cool moments there. I'm curious whether you saw any of these the first time you played or did you find out about them after ?

    • @sword4005
      @sword4005 Рік тому

      @@Welchy-TV the oceleot one as i just randomly pressing button because i found the medal ceremony boring

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      hahaha. I was too engrossed in it all, knowing there is always so much to take in so I was concentrating so hard to make sure I missed as little as possible.

    • @sword4005
      @sword4005 Рік тому

      that how kojima get you@@Welchy-TV

  • @pearlprincetv
    @pearlprincetv Рік тому

    One thing I noticed all these years, you were briefed to meet with ADAM (I was hoping you’d pick up on when Ocelot said his real name: Adamska) obviously that didn’t happen, EVA instead intercepted you.
    ADAM did eventually show up, but the next day with his Ocelot Units. I really wish they released an alternative pathways, it’s always been bugging me for years but we will never know haha 😂

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I should really have picked up on that. haha Still a brilliant ending

  • @mycardboardbox
    @mycardboardbox Рік тому

    good stuff mate

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      Thanks pal. It's been a blast !

  • @haonrepulsor2227
    @haonrepulsor2227 Рік тому

    at the end ocelot talks to zero

  • @darkermisae
    @darkermisae Рік тому

    Don't know why you did not see the 10 min timer there

  • @darkermisae
    @darkermisae Рік тому

    Broooo if you stay sited you'll regain your life!

  • @haonrepulsor2227
    @haonrepulsor2227 Рік тому

    when you start mgs4. look at the start menu to the end. don't press the start button! 🥺

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  Рік тому

      Ok nice, I can't promise I will remember but I will certainly try to!

  • @QBFoxMan
    @QBFoxMan 9 місяців тому

    The fact that my man slogged through horrible frame-rate in an attempt to do non-lethal run on The Boss. I felt that.
    Respect, sir. 🫡

    • @Welchy-TV
      @Welchy-TV  9 місяців тому

      Much appreciated sir.....it was the right thing to do ❤️