that last 6 1/2 minutes was absolutely insane. you had my mind going in so many circles and literal gasps as each layer of the story built on itself. also, your uploads always make my lunch taste better. 🙃
I’d heard of this case before, several times, but no one begins the tale with the victim, her personality, her life. Everyone starts with the poisoning and what came after. Thanks for painting such a vivid picture of Peggy as a person. What was done to her was just horrific.
I think thats why I just love what he does with his story telling. Theyre not victims or statistics, theyre people with lives and loved ones who miss them. No one else ever tells us about who they were and often times theyre just reduced to nameless victims.
I always admire the True Crime channels that put the victim in the forefront as opposed to only mentioning the victim when describing their brutal end.
So what killed the woman and hurt the kids in the first story?? Did I miss it? I just heard it's well known, it's got a cure, but it was too late for the mother... Anyone know what caused it?
“I think I’m having a heart attack, so I’m going to go home and lay down”. This is a great example of what not to do if you think you’re having a heart attack.
@@zachdonato this is true. Really sad that we can give Ukraine and so many other foreign countries billions upon billions of dollars and we can’t even help our own citizens… the country has turned into a nation of consumers. That’s all it is now… sad and embarrassing.
@@MrBallen Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. Understand The Catechism of The Catholic Church and The Athanasius Creed. ua-cam.com/play/PLUcjoO2Bj8AsiGYdzfqZyXae1lhMw_p2s.html
Sherry/Susan might not have been a literal genius, but she deserves honorary Mensa membership for the way she brilliantly outmanoeuvred these people. Ironic that she turned out to be better at solving murder mysteries than they were at creating them.
@@jonosterman2878well you know that's why they have the terms street smart vs book smart, etc, often genius level people aren't good at other things like reading people and knowing how to manipulate people, George was so enamoured with himself thought he was so smart that it didn't occur to him he was taking all the bait
I am constantly amazed how for each and every story you tell, I never know how it is going to end until you get to the climax and reveal it. That is a master-level story telling ability.
"A pale horse" is an Agatha Christie crime/detective novel where the murders are committed via thallium poisoning. A copy of the book was found amongst George's things.
Yes!! I can’t believe this wasn’t mentioned. If anyone is interested Let’s Read does a recap of this story too. It mentions that. My man BALLEN is so good at these stories but let’s read is amazing too and way better to listen to as you drift to sleep….his voice is bar none
Sherry was hanging out with geniuses who did cosplay murder mysteries. She did this while in disguise, solving an ACTUAL murder mystery, and wasn't even a genius herself. Sherry is Legendary Status.
@@jellyfishi_ She was a genius in a way that Mensa members didn’t understand. It’s amazing these people are considered geniuses but yet step over the line and kill someone. They probably thought they were smarter than everyone and could get away with it
We actually don't know, she might have had a genius IQ, she just wasn't a Mensa member. You need an I Q over 145 to qualify for Mensa. A number of people have that, they just don't feel like joining. My oldest son is in Mensa, but he went to like two meetings and thought of other things to do. I think he got involved in interpreting a lot of languages, not sure. I'm the village idiot, I have no clue how he came out so amazing, but I'm kinda proud of him.
None of them were or are actual geniuses. So-called IQ is thrown around like alcohol or drugs - it's a poor measure of intelligence. I should add, Mensa and other high IQ societies are a veritable joke.
This is such amazing story telling, the first half of the video I was convinced it was Pie. Then for the second half I was 100% thinking it had to be ‘Sherry’ because of her interest in how George used thallium in the fake murder. Also how you set her up as this crazy woman who wanted to be friends with this ‘lovey couple’. The last 7 minutes? That left my jaw on the floor I was actually so shocked because of how well you created that twist ending. So amazing and I’m very proud to be one of your early subscribers (before 2 or 3 mil I think)
😂 You're "very proud" you're one of the people around the 3 million mark of people who pressed a button? Fuck me love, you'd wanna get out more 😂😂😂 This wee write up, showing how easily you're misled, was sad enough before that last wee pathetic fact was added... jesu I'm in stitches... and they say not to read the comments 😂
The moment you introduced how sherry was super attached to George and Diana I thought that it must have been her who committed the crime but when you revealed that she was the one solving it I was in real astonishment. Wow the way you give voice to these stories is impeccable
Yeah, I originally thought- oh geeze, mentally focused nerds- these people must be harmless and therefore the good guys…. But that annoying Susan must be the killer! If she couldn’t get her life together in Texas- I bet she met the family and killed them having met the mother at the diner! ….and then MrBallen explained the truth and I felt totally hoodwinked and bad for misjudging Susan- who was apparently a complete badass and the hero of this sad situation. It’s sickening that Diana somehow is still out there being a vile Karen of a creature.
Mr ballen needs to write a movie plot about UFOs or paranormal investigators that go missing cuz some ufo's/aliens traped them... Some story crazy like That, the guy is a freaking beast at telling stories.... Blessings to you all from puerto rico with lots of love...
@@MrBallen you are an AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING story teller. Your story telling has gotten me through quite a few dark times. Thank you!!! Keep up your awesome work
I was more amazed by an ER that didnt diagnose Peggy with a "panic attack" and send her home. Then a neurologist figured out Thallium poisoning? Thats the real genius in this story.
I have to question his level of genius when he leaves a bottle of thalium in his home unattended while moving out,as well as gloating to someone about poisoning as a perfect crime
The higher the IQ, the lower the common sense usually are. They trust their brains so much that they ignore basic survival instincts by default. Trust me, I was in the Infantry. The only Lieutenant we ever had that wasn’t a clueless idiot, was a “mustang”.
My heart breaks for Peggy, She died in the most excruciatingly painful way... I'm just glad the other members survived, and great acknowledgement to Susan Gorick for being ahead of that smart murderer... She really showed what she's made of... Cheers to y'all have a great weekend❤️
It’s a shame she lived in a third world country and her first thought after thinking you had a heart attack was to drive home and sleep it off instead of going to the hospital
For anyone wondering what thallium is. Thallium is a heavy metal used in the manufacture of electronic components, optical lenses, semiconductor materials, alloys, gamma radiation detection equipment, imitation jewelry, artist's paints, low temperature thermometers, and green fireworks. How I know all this is because I use to help my ex boyfriend cook meth. I've been clean 8 years 2 months and 11 days. All without going to jail. My husband saved my life.
Many Congratulations on your sobriety! I myself am hitting 10 years in November. And can remember when I couldn’t get out of bed without my pills. Oops, I mean “medications” definitely plural. Hats off to you!! 👏👏👏
I’m really picky about my true crime- there’s a lot of really bad storytelling out there. No inflections, context or creativity … and how the story is presented is so crucial. You are really skilled at that and I appreciate it. This was a great story telling and what a twist at the end! Thanks for these I really enjoy them.
a lot of the narrators are automated but you can't tell it until it horribly mispronounces some common word. they don't sound awful, but mrballen demonstrates what is missing! Today's music is in exactly the same situation
Kudos to Susan Gorek! She put her own life in peril only to catch this murderer, and with that, justice has been served to the victims involved because of her work. She will always be known as a brave, smart detective that got the upper hand in this sticky situation.
@@stopplzs If I don't want the story to be spoiled I don't look at the comments. That's what the comments section is 4 for. eople to discuss the video that they're watching
Every time I think Mr. Ballen has outdone himself, an episode like this comes along, and I'm proven wrong! What a ride! He's the best storyteller I've ever heard.
These comments are so weird. Imagine reading this and your mother is the one who died in the “amazing story telling”. There’s a way to compliment mr. Ballen without being so completely out of touch and having no respect for the family. This isn’t it.
Completely agree. he's truly a fantastic orator. The stories are pretty horrific, but he absolutely brings the situation to life. And I'm sure MOST people understand what you meant in your compliment. Obviously the subject matter is not the intention of the compliment. I miss the days when we didn't have to spell out every single thing so someone who can't use context clues to decipher a comment that really has nothing to do with them can keep their panties unbunched. 😒😉
@@kelleygreenEmpressOne before the internet captured all the sheep and social media told them what to think, and before they lost interpersonal relationships skills, we DIDN'T HAVE TO explain everything to the delicate little snowflakes that don't even know what gender they are..... Enuff' said.
Damn I can't wrap my head around how you can hate a whole family THAT much to poison them in such an excruciating way. People are so sick. Thank you Mr Ballen for a another great story! 💛
I've been attacked by neighbors, for no legitimate reason. It's really shocking to learn how much hatred can grow in people's hearts over some dumb little thing like the neighbor's noisy kids.
@@flash_flood_area Yup. I had a Karen neighbor who threw a rock through my window because my roommate had a full ashtray in our porch. She didn’t even live in our apartment complex…and it was our porch…
Just a while ago, we heard the story of a genius stuck in a chimney, now we hear the story of a genius who found pleasure in poison-murdering others. Mr. Ballen is singlehandedly shattering MENSA's reputation. 😂
i only recognized this story like two thirds of the way through because of the way you set it up and i love that. your focus on the victims' lives was something i'd never heard before, so i had no idea what was coming until the perspective switched even though i've heard multiple tellings of this crime. love the way you centered the family
Susan may not have been "Mensa" smart but she was definitely smarter than George. My heart goes out to Peggy and her kids. I can't imagine going through something like this. You make even your ads entertaining!
"Smart" is actually not defined properly in American system. American system just evaluates vocabulary and a miniscule set of drab computational skills. When you look at eastern cultures, smart is a compilation of not just academic smartness but also application, innovation, emotional intelligence, social inteeligence, ethical intelligence, abstract thinking, big picture thinking, cross linking various aspects of life and occupations, personal responsibility, sensibility to different cultures, awareness of various perspectives, resourcefulness etc etc etc. I mean there are entire books on just each one of these subjects. In the grand scheme of things she was probs smarter than all of those people who are basically just good test takers.
I can't remember why I know about thallium poisoning, but as soon as you said poison tests came back negative I had a strong feeling it was thallium poisoning, and when the Mensa portion got to the "perfect crime" game I was sure of it.
I remembered the case from an ID channel program but couldn't remember the name if the poison. But if not mistaken, they way they put it is the guy used the woman sherry as a scapegoat to draw suspicion away from himself even so far as to pretend to want to date her and actually blackmailed her somehow to help him. Not sure but thats what i remember of it.
My mind didn't go to thallium, but I recalled an episode of House where a woman poisoned her husband with gold of all things. So I was wondering if a heavy metal of some kind was involved.
@@random_information7it can be detected everything known to mankind can be detected unless its alien. The problem is doctors in rare cases like this don't even attempt to test for it. Theres probably thousands of diseases that harms a humans. Unless your doctor know the situation u were in they cant properly test for it thats why they read symptoms. Also thats why u need to always be purely honest to doctors in such situations. The gamily got lucky that doctor remembered the teachings as thalium poisoning is so rare the family mostly likly would have died and doctors had run out of possible tests to give family as nobody would be able to connect the dots of thalium to them
I can't be the only one who loves Mr. Ballen bloopers. He's always so serious in his stories (rightly so) so it really cracks me up when he laughs at himself.
This is a super famous case that's been covered probably dozens of times; but, yet again, John is so damned good this held my attention like I was hearing it for the first time. Well done.
Dude.....Many people could've just told this "story" but the way in which you laid this story out......there is a reason that you've become so popular and successful. You are a master at your craft man. Most excellent job.
@@MF-kv8cn that “unnecesary gibberish is my favorite part, and is why he is so big right now, because every other story teller leaves out the critical details, and Mrballen lets you know the persons day to day life story so you get really immersed and invested into the story before he hits you with the twists at the end, it is beautiful work, ive listened to all of his storys, hundreds of them, and because ive heard them all i look on youtube to find someone he is somewhat similar to him but no one else is, they all leve out names, dates, years, and details, and tell a bland 10 minute version of an interesting story, i hate it, i LOVE the long MrBallen storys, i dont need a quick story before i lose interest, how the fuck could you lose interest, its MrBallen, also by the way, he set up all that gibberish for the twist at the end, i guess its not for the smooth brains out there 😂
@@MF-kv8cn To answer your first question, you know once after a crime is commited, the survivors/witnesses etc give dozens of interviews to the police, to the media extra. So the son must have literally told how he discovered his mom in one of these interviews. Someone like mrballen can find all these details by doing enough research on the case. Also no one is forcing you to watch his content, if you're having so many problems just stop watching
The way mrballen tells these stories is genius. Making you guess the whole way until bam. Unloads everything right into your face and it's amazing. Best story truth teller ever. So engaging.
I would seriously love to go have beers with Mr Ballen and just hang out and listen to him tell me stories all night long! Even if they’d be the most boring stories, he’d make them absolutely amazing!!
Without the fear porn music he wouldn’t be that engaging. Also that crack of “but she’s not meant to smart “like I’m questioning his intelligence saying how she duped two people that were in Mensa and ruined their plans and saw right through them and was smart enough to do so right 😂
If someone tells you they’re feeling like they’re having a heart attack, DO NOT leave them unattended! If you do, it’s more probable that the person will die.
@@kathmandoozle yeah that aspect of the story made zero sense to me. As soon as one of my parents said the words “heart attack” I’d be dialing 911 immediately.
And do not let them drive anywhere! If it's a heart attack and they lose consciousness, they can cause an accident and potentially harm or kill themselves and others. Don't even drive them to the hospital. A suspected heart attack always warrants a call to 911 because paramedics can actually start treatment en route and save your life
I agree. It's sometimes hard to tell though, especially in those days. My sweet grandma passed at 42 in 1965 of a massive heart attack that started 2 days prior according to the family story. She just didn't feel good. By the time they got her to the hospital stairs, she passed away at the door. Left behind 5 kids and of course decades later, me :(
Damn. Your storytelling ability has long been talked about for good reason, and this might be your best work yet. This thing had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, I had no idea where it was going, and it just came together like a masterpiece. You are gifted, man. This is top notch stuff.
@@RayRayJr. yeah I honestly wasn’t sure cause I was only about barely about 1/3 of the way through the video and he was kinda tip Toeing around what coulda killed her and wasn’t giving any names so i wasn’t sure but I finished it now, yeah real duh
I love how his “commercials” Are just as entertaining as the rest of the main stories. He is just freaking amazing. I never knew that storytelling could be such an art. He really is an artist in every sense of the word. Simply the best.
That’s kind of what I was thinking. Him not even knowing that he was a great storyteller, great gifts people have without even knowing it and it’s beautiful how it gets discovered. ♥️ He’s the only one I listen to
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. Understand The Catechism of The Catholic Church and The Athanasius Creed. ua-cam.com/play/PLUcjoO2Bj8AsiGYdzfqZyXae1lhMw_p2s.html
You told this story so well, I thought up until the end that Sherry (Susan) was definitely the killer. Absolutely crazy. So sad that Peggy lost her life.
I have said it before and I'll say it again. You are an absolutely spectacular storyteller. I love how you treat narrative. As a writer I try to do the same (mostly in health comms and marketing for small businesses, but still).I take notes during your videos and podcasts to try to inform my writing better. I realize that writing and telling are two very different things, but they borrow heavily from one another. Thank you for your excellent commitment to this amazing tradition.
Your analogy is faulty! Breaking the law is either intelligent or smart. The perp is just opportunistic pri*k and attempt of leaving town after a murder is a typical criminal mindset
You have such a gift John. I could listen to your stories all day long, unfortunately i have already watched every single upload and i get so excited for a new one. Have to say this was definitely a banger.
Mr. Ballen, today was the day I introduced my adult son to your stories. He was mesmerized and is likely binge watching your videos right now. Your unique talents for storytelling is reminiscent of my Cherokee Grandfather’s style. Btw I am a 55+ year old lady, and my grandfather was born in the early 1900’s. Your style is familiar and very interesting. Have a wonderful day!!
@@MrBallen my adult son and I discovered we have both been avid Ballers for 2 years but neither of us knew the other were super fans. When I went to tell him one of your stories he goes heeeyyy mom did u watch my man Mr. Ballen? I was like WHAT???? That’s my man!!!! My son is a police officer and he just told me the coolest story. He plays your videos every week for the guys at the police station. If he forgets the guys make sure to remind him by yelling it’s Ballin Time!!!😍 😘🥰
Oh my goodness Cherokee Granddad, how wonderful. My history isn’t as interesting as yours but my Grandad was English born early 1900,s and grew up very poor. He could barely read so I remember him just telling me stories about his boyhood, his family, the village he grew up in, the people etc etc. Some of his best stories were made up. Anyway, best wishes Sandi, Marie in Australia 🦘🐨
I found the upside to horrific addiction!! I was mixing heroin and Xanax, A LOT OF IT, was an addict for 12 years straight my entire adult life. Finally got clean for a year and a half now, and apparently I watched a bunch of these videos because I liked them, but have no memory of it 😂 More Mr. Ballen content for MEEE!!! 😂
Good for you man!! It’s always good to see another one of us who have made it! I broke my neck in 2010 and got addicted to prescribed hydrocodone/oxycodone for a couple years and then in 2012 they started trying to fix the opioid epidemic and so i got pulled off with no warning. I was still in lots of pain and I was dependent, I found heroin within 6 months and struggled with it(and benzos at times and uppers at times) for about the same amount of time. All in all I spent 2010-2021 hopelessly addicted. I’ve been clean for almost 3 years now! What’s funny though is I spent the first year of my recovery in sober living and I was so miserable, it didn’t matter what I did, I was just bored and craving H(which is to be expected as the brain heals). However it was during that time that I found Mr. Ballen and he provided me with lots super entertaining stories that helped keep me distracted 😂. Congrats again on your year and a half man! That’s no small achievement! Great job 🙏
@@WildNightBloomI’m sure they remember PLENTY. Continuing with the addiction would ensure never having to actually feel and make amends for the wrong things she did during their addiction. It’s an extremely difficult process when you get your emotions back in recovery. VERY VERY DIFFICULT 😥
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve driven by Dr. Diana Carr’s office and never realized this story was attached to her. I grew up in Sebring, FL… so this story hits home. Literally. It should be noted that Dr. Diana passed away in 2018 from a stroke.
Not surprised that a stroke got her after seeing her photo. Then again it coulda been all that big brain strain from being so much smarter than everyone else to marry a murderer.
@@HypocrisyHuntress This. As well as the fact that no one knew it was thallium poisoning until it was far too late, there was no way for them to give the correct treatments in time. They could only apply general medications to treat the pain, which of course did not do much due to the severe amount of thallium in her system.
@Witty Witty no way my guy. I’ll concede that Diana probably played a part in the murder/poisonings, but George is not innocent no matter what his wimpy disposition was.
I was accepted into Mensa as a teenager in the 60s. I don't think I've ever encountered such a bunch of losers. They're not geniuses at all, they're just good at IQ tests, which means diddly squat in real life. Great story, Mr Ballen. 3000 years ago you'd have been a Homeric bard holding your listeners entnralled as you recited your tales.
Exactly. I worked for a guy who was a member of Mensa. He had his office at home so you were in his home alone with him all day. I could write a book on the weirdness. I felt so uncomfortable around him I lasted a few months then got the heck out.
I have watched many shows about Peggy's murder but MrBallen's a legend at storytelling.He always makes sure that the victims stories are told and not just what happens to them and their killers. MrBallen could tell us the weather in story format and we would be glued to our seats.
@@Wesssss84 His old video's don't all include death or murder either, it's just what is appealing and the best story format type stories, therefore gets the most views and entertains the audience the most. 👍
Brilliant episode! I love how you keep the suspense going and drop all the facts at just the right time. Thank you for all of the strange, dark & mysterious entertainment you bring us……in such a wonderful & respectful manner.
My dad was a part of a Mensa chapter growing up, and he ended up leaving. I asked him after watching this episode and the first thing he talked about was the MASSIVE egos that every individual had. I showed him this video and he laughed saying this is no surprise. Their idea of fun isn't typical.
I used to go to chapter meetings which were basically just cocktail parties where the kids could play and the holiday parties with my parents. I did find the newsletter amusing. Especially some of the classifieds back in the late 70s looking for mates. Wild
For George, thinking he was so much smarter than everyone, he ended up being played like a fiddle by Susan. Kudos to her for outsmarting the MENSA genius. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Thalium was used in an assassination attempt by the South African security police under Apartheid in 1982. They detained Eastern Cape student activist Siphiwo Mthimkhulu and poisoned him, knowing that the effects of the poison would manifest later when he was no longer in custody thus allowing the security police deniability. Luckily he was rushed to a good hospital in Cape Town where a neurologist was able to diagnose him in time. He proceeded to sue the minister of Police which was a great embarrassment to the apartheid state. This ultimately led to his direct 'elimination' by the security police.
"long time listener, first time caller" - Mr Ballen, My adult daughter and i Independently found you and your UA-cam channel. We love talking about your stories and cant wait for your content to drop. Thank you, from the both of us, for your story telling, research, presentation and work ethic. Also, thank you for your military service. We wish you nothing but success and the riches you deserve. Bryan
I've heard this story a couple of times before but told with the focus on the murderer. With the approach Mr. Ballen took, it wasn't until the last few minutes that I recognized it. His approach was so gripping and gut wrenching! It take a great story teller to take something fairly well known and make it totally new!
Remember when you used to do those stories about places you aren’t supposed to go, but people went to anyway? Or, those spooky Forrest stories? Could you do some more like that?
No he doesn't do that anymore unfortunately. He's rich now he only uploads once a week now. He did those stories when he was coming up and grinding now that he's made it he's to busy moving into new mansions and getting his pool lined with gold. I miss when mr ballen was poor too.
Yeees. Back when it was posting 3,4 or even 5 times a week 😭. Those stories were definitely very interesting. Or the images or vids with the disturbing background stories
So many things. First, I love these stories. I'm obsessed. Thank you, Mr. Ballen. Second, and I don't typically discuss this, but it seems pertinent, so...I'm a member of Mensa, and I'm furious that my chapter doesn't host a regular "murder mystery weekend." Sternly worded letter incoming. Finally, I have never heard this story make the rounds, and while I can understand why the org doesn't advertise it, I'm stunned that it's not discussed and analyzed behind proverbially closed doors at every gathering! Anyway, what a twist ending! Thank you for sharing!
Yeeeaaaaahhhhhhhh I really don't blame the AMC for discouraging us from doing them. Trepal is also one of the only people who has been permanently banned from ever rejoining.
It makes me mad too but tbh even if she did go sooner it wouldn't have mattered as she consumed too much and I'm pretty sure there was no way to save her even if she went the day she starting feeling those symptoms
She was American and not rich. I'm certain that the $$$ hospital bills had a lot to do with that. One time I passed out and cracked my head open and was dripping blood and still didn't go to the hospital because I can't afford to go unless I absolutely have to. That's the American "health care" system ... poor people can't afford to go to the hospital.
@@Violetbunnyfish That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. There are sooooo many programs that help poor people with their medical bills. Obama instituted a bunch as well. Not going to the hospital because you don't understand the health care system is your own fault. Sure we can do better but you need to do more research and actually understand how to work it to your benefit. Don't be stupid, which is what you're doing, and go to the fucking hospital.
This story is proof that being a genius and being smart are not always the same thing. A whole group of geniuses and none of them figured out that she was undercover and she was able to solve "the perfect murder" from within.
All geniuses I met, which were quite of few, because I used to work at a pharmaceutical company, all the one's I met, were totally stupid and acted sort of like children, to put it mildly, there was one chemist that would almost cry literally if you took his parking spot, and I can see that these guy was the same way, he got fixated with those people and killed one of them and almost killed the rest just because he didn't like them...
@@miss2000varietyshow injecting him with thallium and letting him die through weeks of torturous pain? No they aren't. Death through lethal injection is a million times quicker in comparison. He deserves the incredible pain of death by thallium poisoning, but the government would never sanction that.
@@albertdominick140 I had an uncle like that. Charles. He was an inventor and full of all sorts of technological wonder, but he was a moron and a total asshole prone to rages when something was beyond his comprehension or comfort. Come to think of it, I had another uncle who was absolutely brilliant, like, always computing something fascinating. He was way cool. Props to uncle Jack.
mr. ballen is by far the best true crime story teller. i listen to him all the time, his podcasts especially lately since i watched almost every episode on youtube. thank you for helping me with my boredom when i was in the hospital
@SnoopyDoo far from it - an infected cyst i was most likely born with. i had my first surgery a little over a week ago. just recovery time is super super boring
I usually never comment in a video, but i have to come up and say that this is the best storytelling of a murder that i've ever seen. I was nowhere close to the truth the entire time, great video!
Kudos to their police woman who gained the trust of George and actually got George to hand over the keys of his house to her. That was brilliant police work
As soon as I heard about the murder mystery plan, I knew she was a cop. Suzanne is proof that if you “play nice” you get more done as an investigator than if you act like a jerk.
@@cpmow831 there's a good chunk of cases that took alot of dedication from law enforcement to private eyes that some have lasted years. Nowhere near as exciting as the cases we see here on YT, and not even the great JCS could fathom the extent of their methods .
@@pargolf3158 I was biting into that same biscuit. Tried to figure out the connection of her to them, and not the suspects. Very interesting story telling.
Agatha Christie ,the famous murder misery writer, always said that intelligent egotistical murderer's biggest downfall was that they couldn't stop talking about it. They feel so proud and Superior that they can't help but talk about it to stroke their egos even if they incriminate themselves by doing so. Her understanding of the psyche of this type of killer is what made her the most famous mystery writer in history.
Such great work. Thanks for the stories and, as a 26 year Naval veteran, thank you for your service and the sacrifices you made while serving. Peace brother.
@@CMTorn0311nooo... The happy trees aren't dead bodies... The paintings themselves are where the body's are.. WHICH happy little tree it's under, it's the fun part !
Thank you for sharing the victim's story and not glorifying the predator(s). The family is still local and I can only imagine every time their story is rehashed it has to pain them all over again. You eloquently told more of their story than I've ever heard or read previously.
You are the only person I actually watch your ads. They are entertaining and you actually put in effort in telling them. I hope they pay you extra because you deserve it.
And this is why Mr. Ballen brings in the big numbers kids. The whole structure telling of this story is unreal, unpredictable and giftedly told. This is more than just storytelling and relaying information. This is a master class in cerebral entertainment through old school storytelling.
I just commented on another comment…. I totally agree! On other channels, I kinda get disappointed when they tell so much in the intro that we already know what’s going to happen. I actually commented this exact thing and one person replied to me with what I said was “totally inappropriate!” Maybe I chose my words unwisely (although I don’t think I did) but I still think that I am allowed to have an opinion on the format that I prefer. This case Mr. B shared with us, is exactly the way I prefer listening to these unfortunate cases.
That twist.. wow. I could not see that coming at all and was so confused when the police turned up at the house just after she entered. Masterfully done. You even had me pondering if it was Pye's ex-girlfriend who came back on the scene briefly. I think this is the best story you've told to date.
The amount of detail in each of these stories makes it feel like you’re experiencing it first hand and makes them all the more harrowing. You’re work in showing not only respect for the victims and their families, but doing the research necessary to do their stories justice is remarkable and commendable. Great job as always!
Discovered this channel recently and have been binging these videos waaaaaaaaaay too fast. I'm dreading the point where I've watched them all and have to wait a whole week for the next one like some kind of caveman
been following him for over a year now. I truly admire the human being and family man he is. my father being a Vietnam vet and Marine,cop, mayor just finally retiring the other day at 74. I admire him taking up the post he did as a seal. by chance falling into becoming a content creator and not only that but starting a non-profit for all the stories he's told. constantly being on top of putting out content with his family and wife for our enjoyment. Not even knowing that sometimes it's the best part of the day for us, just something nice to get us through. I just got to say I'm really thankful John, always wishing the best to you and yours and the people you speak about and all who listen. thank you!
@@MrBallen I've been following him as well. Since the beginning. Before there was even music at the beginning. I always comment & never get noticed with a likes🤷♀️😉 Oh well I love this channel so much, idc. The storytelling is perfection👍🏻 Blessings 👑🙏🏻🕊❣
Hey there Mr Ballen, it's just after midnight here in South Africa and not even an hour ago, I was recommending you to one of my close friends about your channel. Literally the first thing I said was: "Mr Ballen tells the best strange, dark and mysterious tales delivered in story format while torturing the like button" and oh boy did he love you within the first story he watched! You're super awesome Mr Ballen, please never leave UA-cam!😭❤️❤️❤️
I’ve heard this story from a number of different sources but Mr. Ballen’s narration is by far the best and is the reason I never skip any of his episodes, even if I’m familiar with what happened. He’s just so exciting to listen to.
I've never heard this version of the story. I heard the coke was left on the front porch and one of the family member took it inside once seeing it sitting there. I never heard that he broke into their home and placed the coke in the pantry. Also they showed where the bottle tops were removed and only could be seen that the tops were removed from looking at them under a microscope which showed tiny scrape marks...George had painstakingly pried each top off and then used his bottle capper to put them back on. I think the wife knew, but they couldn't prove it. I think this story was on 60 minutes.
what i love about this guy is he even has answers ready for our unnecessary questions, like i just wondered why would he have a bottle topper thing , he immediately says he used to brew his beer. Love you man!
I love the fact that MrBallen’s custom ads are so over-the-top that even *he* can’t manage a single take without breaking down in laughter! Let’s take a second to appreciate both the effort *and* these light-hearted moments when our erstwhile storyteller breaks character.😁
You're misusing "erstwhile," a natural mistake when assuming its meaning from context, cuz the context is usually just a vague compliment...but it means **former**. [Just an FYI, not trying to be snotty ;) ]
I've heard this story 2 other times on TV and know this story well, but decided to listen to him tell it...wow. So much better!! There were details in this version that weren't in the other 2 TV versions! Loved it! ❤️
I love the way that you present each layer of information and how you systematically introduce each person in such a way that just when you think you have everything all figured out, suddenly there is a another twist or turn to the story and it keeps you on the edge of your seat! You tell stories like no other!
I've heard this story and watched this tale told by so many others, including Forensic Files, and only MrBallen can tell it like this, you're an amazing storyteller
Me too; I seen this on tv before; the whole time he kept showing George face I was like he looks like a killer; like seen him before. I forgot the story though and when he got to the coca cola everthing started coming back to me.
I realized about halfway through when he mentioned the mensa couple and their "murder mystery weekends" I was like, I think I may have heard this story before lol
I'm so glad that Susan exists! She really did an amazing thing catching George so that he's never able to ever kill or hurt anyone ever again. I'm so glad that the two boys survived, when I heard they got sick too, I was really scared that they also weren't going to make it. I hope Peggy rests in peace.
MENSA have high logical intelligence, but not emotional intelligence. The detective took advantage of George’s low Emotional Quotient and how easy it was to flatter him .
Definitely. I'm thinking the higher-ups in the police dept must have chosen her because she had already displayed a *high* level of intelligence in the past.
The problem is when your as smart as they are you lose some of the common sense of the average person. I always believed a scientist should have one average joe following them around to handle the "simpler" tasks that might boggle the mind of the super genius 😂
Susan deserves an Academy Award. I am obsessed with true crime so, I have often heard the stories you cover before. That fact is irrelevant as your method of storytelling is so clever that I listen anyway. The journey you take us on is so much fun even if I already know the plot. Thank you sir.
Same! I've also already heard some of the stories he covers but I always listen anyways because nobody does it better than John! It was cool to find out that he actually writes the UA-cam stories himself and then his adorable mom writes the podcast stories and he just tweaks them to really fit his style.
Awesome job Detective Susan. So sad that Peggy lost her life all because neighbors didn't like her. Sometimes people are too smart for their own good. Thank you for always telling us stories in a riveting way, Mr. Ballen! We all love listening to each of your updates.
I suspected the Mensa couple to be murders and Susan to be the one figuring out what they did. He did only say it one time, and the rest of the story he avoided repeating this fact any way, that Susan met the Mensa couple AFTER Peggy already died. :P
Finding out the "twist" and learning who the true villain is was very well done. It is so sad about Peggy passing away, though. I'm glad that the boys were saved.
The killer in this case has to be simultaneously one of the smartest and dumbest criminals in history. On one hand, he used a very potent and uncommon poison with vague symptoms that make it difficult to identify. On the other hand, he cooked up a "fictional" scenario that bore an uncanny resemblance to his crime, distributed it to dozens of people, and bragged about his knowledge of poisons to an unusually curious stranger who turned out to be an undercover cop.
I honestly believe its not just stupidity but more so his ego. He felt like his plan was so good it had to be shared and he likely wanted a sort of recognition for it while also not being caught. Someone with a lesser ego would probably avoid mentioning anything at all involving a murder.
@@MurkyTheWolf 100% As I was watching, i was thinking man, crazy how "geniuses" lack street smartness. Him and his wife not seeing red flags abt Susan and catching on. At the end of the day, the most intelligent are humans too and vulnerable to the most basic human instincts.
@@zeffery101 well, mensa takes in the top 2%, given the worlds population.. we are talking about above 140 million people.. to me as a swede, that is a high number of people.. (we have 10 million) but then, those who join mensa in the first place have already shown they have something to prove.. given the amount of people with that iq and the low number who actually join mensa.. well.. people join to show off.. they have an ego and they arent actually that smart to begin with.. it doesnt take a genius to join mensa.. you can pay, cheat and retake their test how many times you want.. people do it for clout, that includes stupid people.
@@abril443 i think what separates us is the knowing... the self-aware.. ive been administered the wais iii test and they claim i belong in the 2%, yet i consider myself an idiot.. im fully aware of all my flaws.. if i were to go brag about some stupid shit, i will only open the doors to more investigation when it comes to my life and my flaws.. therefore i dont.. i would assume the real geniuses out there would do the same.. keep it hidden and use it only when it furthered their own goals. only 2% of the worlds population has green eyes, so ill happily stay in that category instead.
Missing 411 blows my mind like nothing else. I pray for the families of the missing. Im from Washington State. Just North of North Bend, actually! Thanks Dave, for your incredible and important work on these unimaginably sad yet mind blowing stories of missing loved ones. Keep it coming! I tried to get some books about a month ago, but the site said it was down until recently? Something like that. Gonna check again. I want them all. And ill see you soon! ✌️
We love you John! This is the first time I’ve seen about the organization to help victims of violent crime. That’s so amazing and wonderful. You can actually change the ending of THEIR stories by helping them. What a wonderful thing to do! Xoxo
my boyfriend and I are literally dependent on this man (our favorite you-tuber!) for strange, dark, and mysterious stories to entertain us, and sometimes to brighten our day. I don't know what I'd fall asleep to on Monday nights now without his podcast!
that last 6 1/2 minutes was absolutely insane. you had my mind going in so many circles and literal gasps as each layer of the story built on itself. also, your uploads always make my lunch taste better. 🙃
😉
what food would you recommend?
@@tugjames4528 tacos
@@JustinPlayss agreed
@@tugjames4528 Quesadillas. They’re sooo delicious and underrated.
I’d heard of this case before, several times, but no one begins the tale with the victim, her personality, her life. Everyone starts with the poisoning and what came after. Thanks for painting such a vivid picture of Peggy as a person. What was done to her was just horrific.
I think thats why I just love what he does with his story telling. Theyre not victims or statistics, theyre people with lives and loved ones who miss them. No one else ever tells us about who they were and often times theyre just reduced to nameless victims.
The podcast 'Small Town Murder' did a good job covering this case.
I always admire the True Crime channels that put the victim in the forefront as opposed to only mentioning the victim when describing their brutal end.
So what killed the woman and hurt the kids in the first story?? Did I miss it? I just heard it's well known, it's got a cure, but it was too late for the mother... Anyone know what caused it?
@@deniseredman195 they were poisoned with thallium
“I think I’m having a heart attack, so I’m going to go home and lay down”.
This is a great example of what not to do if you think you’re having a heart attack.
I did that this morning, then made an apt with my doc. I know that's not smart.
Your comment is as foolish as her decision.
That's because she was afraid of the money it was going to cost to go to the hospital... nice country.
Yeah it's because the healthcare in this country is awful and people would rather take that risk than pay thousands of dollars that they don't have
@@zachdonato this is true. Really sad that we can give Ukraine and so many other foreign countries billions upon billions of dollars and we can’t even help our own citizens… the country has turned into a nation of consumers. That’s all it is now… sad and embarrassing.
The way you choose to withhold information until the right time really serves your narratives well! You’re a superb storyteller.
Thank you!!!
Maan you hit that right on the head brother, I agree
@@MrBallen Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. Understand The Catechism of The Catholic Church and The Athanasius Creed. ua-cam.com/play/PLUcjoO2Bj8AsiGYdzfqZyXae1lhMw_p2s.html
*MASTERFUL*
That's what I love the most!
Sherry/Susan might not have been a literal genius, but she deserves honorary Mensa membership for the way she brilliantly outmanoeuvred these people. Ironic that she turned out to be better at solving murder mysteries than they were at creating them.
Mensa isn’t for smart people, it’s for nerds with big egos that never had friends or a clique so they invented one.
@@jonosterman2878well you know that's why they have the terms street smart vs book smart, etc, often genius level people aren't good at other things like reading people and knowing how to manipulate people, George was so enamoured with himself thought he was so smart that it didn't occur to him he was taking all the bait
I am constantly amazed how for each and every story you tell, I never know how it is going to end until you get to the climax and reveal it. That is a master-level story telling ability.
We try really hard to make every video have an ending worth waiting for! Thank you!!
@@MrBallen they are always just what I need after a long day of work! Thank you
Except when I already know the story and I just wanna see how long he teases it lol
Agree 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💙
My thoughts exactly. For a while I thought the new Florida “transplant” was going to be the guilty party. So, that reveal got me lol
"A pale horse" is an Agatha Christie crime/detective novel where the murders are committed via thallium poisoning. A copy of the book was found amongst George's things.
So his brilliant masterful plan wasn`t even a original idea of his own.
ig he was prolly inspired by it.
lol figures he plagiarized his "perfect" murder.
Cool Thx!
Yes!! I can’t believe this wasn’t mentioned. If anyone is interested Let’s Read does a recap of this story too. It mentions that. My man BALLEN is so good at these stories but let’s read is amazing too and way better to listen to as you drift to sleep….his voice is bar none
Sherry was hanging out with geniuses who did cosplay murder mysteries. She did this while in disguise, solving an ACTUAL murder mystery, and wasn't even a genius herself.
Sherry is Legendary Status.
@@jellyfishi_ She was a genius in a way that Mensa members didn’t understand. It’s amazing these people are considered geniuses but yet step over the line and kill someone. They probably thought they were smarter than everyone and could get away with it
We actually don't know, she might have had a genius IQ, she just wasn't a Mensa member. You need an I Q over 145 to qualify for Mensa. A number of people have that, they just don't feel like joining. My oldest son is in Mensa, but he went to like two meetings and thought of other things to do. I think he got involved in interpreting a lot of languages, not sure. I'm the village idiot, I have no clue how he came out so amazing, but I'm kinda proud of him.
None of them were or are actual geniuses. So-called IQ is thrown around like alcohol or drugs - it's a poor measure of intelligence.
I should add, Mensa and other high IQ societies are a veritable joke.
@@Hollylivengood I thought you could join Mensa with an IQ of 135
Sherry was clearly the main character.
This is such amazing story telling, the first half of the video I was convinced it was Pie. Then for the second half I was 100% thinking it had to be ‘Sherry’ because of her interest in how George used thallium in the fake murder. Also how you set her up as this crazy woman who wanted to be friends with this ‘lovey couple’. The last 7 minutes? That left my jaw on the floor I was actually so shocked because of how well you created that twist ending. So amazing and I’m very proud to be one of your early subscribers (before 2 or 3 mil I think)
😂 You're "very proud" you're one of the people around the 3 million mark of people who pressed a button? Fuck me love, you'd wanna get out more 😂😂😂
This wee write up, showing how easily you're misled, was sad enough before that last wee pathetic fact was added... jesu I'm in stitches... and they say not to read the comments 😂
The moment you introduced how sherry was super attached to George and Diana I thought that it must have been her who committed the crime but when you revealed that she was the one solving it I was in real astonishment. Wow the way you give voice to these stories is impeccable
Yeah, I originally thought- oh geeze, mentally focused nerds- these people must be harmless and therefore the good guys…. But that annoying Susan must be the killer! If she couldn’t get her life together in Texas- I bet she met the family and killed them having met the mother at the diner!
….and then MrBallen explained the truth and I felt totally hoodwinked and bad for misjudging Susan- who was apparently a complete badass and the hero of this sad situation.
It’s sickening that Diana somehow is still out there being a vile Karen of a creature.
Same, I thought she was gonna either be Pye,Pi,Pie’s? Ex wife, ex girlfriend or a lover…
yea that was a pretty good twist, shouldnt be surprised I guess with how good of a story teller Mr. Ballen is :D
Forreal bruh that plot twist was crazy
Mr ballen needs to write a movie plot about UFOs or paranormal investigators that go missing cuz some ufo's/aliens traped them...
Some story crazy like That, the guy is a freaking beast at telling stories....
Blessings to you all from puerto rico with lots of love...
The way MrBallen splits the story, then compiles it in an order which keeps the listener on edge is crazy skill.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Rochelle Tierney he literally puts the “special” in Special Ops
@@MrBallen you are an AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING story teller. Your story telling has gotten me through quite a few dark times. Thank you!!! Keep up your awesome work
Best storyteller ever! It's an art that few have.
Navy seal mk-ultra shit
I was more amazed by an ER that didnt diagnose Peggy with a "panic attack" and send her home. Then a neurologist figured out Thallium poisoning? Thats the real genius in this story.
I thought it was a panic attack at first. Just started having them myself.
@@WL22345 no one said tht
@@ericasimonson8737 yes please have a medical work up. As was said a lot of times panic attacks are symptoms of a something other than psychological.
Yeah, House M.D. vibes there
Don't forget the whole "if you lose weight you'll feel so much better"
I have to question his level of genius when he leaves a bottle of thalium in his home unattended while moving out,as well as gloating to someone about poisoning as a perfect crime
Common sense eludes the genius minds.
@@damiankildare9230
That’s why so-called political “elites” get everything so wrong. Zero common sense and basic logic.
Hubris
The higher the IQ, the lower the common sense usually are. They trust their brains so much that they ignore basic survival instincts by default.
Trust me, I was in the Infantry. The only Lieutenant we ever had that wasn’t a clueless idiot, was a “mustang”.
Yeah, I’m not seeing the “perfect” in any of it
My heart breaks for Peggy, She died in the most excruciatingly painful way...
I'm just glad the other members survived, and great acknowledgement to Susan Gorick for being ahead of that smart murderer...
She really showed what she's made of...
Cheers to y'all have a great weekend❤️
It’s a shame she lived in a third world country and her first thought after thinking you had a heart attack was to drive home and sleep it off instead of going to the hospital
@@MikeHaywood dude, she lived in Florida, which is in the US. Not a 3rd world country.
@@cutebutsadisticable Woosh.
Sampson Nti : Susan Goreck is a deputy sheriff with the Polk County Sheriff's Office,under Sheriff Grady Judd...
Happy weekend
For anyone wondering what thallium is. Thallium is a heavy metal used in the manufacture of electronic components, optical lenses, semiconductor materials, alloys, gamma radiation detection equipment, imitation jewelry, artist's paints, low temperature thermometers, and green fireworks. How I know all this is because I use to help my ex boyfriend cook meth. I've been clean 8 years 2 months and 11 days. All without going to jail. My husband saved my life.
It's also a major component of rat poison years back
Also, congrats on keeping clean for years!
I knew about thallium from Agatha Christie..
Many Congratulations on your sobriety! I myself am hitting 10 years in November. And can remember when I couldn’t get out of bed without my pills. Oops, I mean “medications” definitely plural. Hats off to you!! 👏👏👏
Well done, bamamama2020!! A day at a time, and take care.😉😊
@@jackdurden466 congratulations to you!! And thank you
Just imagine, these psychos threatening the family to move and then killing the mother just to decide a few months later to move themselves.
So true! Wtf is wrong with them?
I would imagine they probably moved more because they just tried to murder everyone next door
It just goes to show Mensa is bullshit, or high iq doesn’t actually mean you’d be smart. Because their act was just retarded.
Forreal. That wife is still out!
Maybe they were paranoid and wanted to distance themselves from what they just did
I’m really picky about my true crime- there’s a lot of really bad storytelling out there. No inflections, context or creativity … and how the story is presented is so crucial. You are really skilled at that and I appreciate it. This was a great story telling and what a twist at the end! Thanks for these I really enjoy them.
a lot of the narrators are automated but you can't tell it until it horribly mispronounces some common word. they don't sound awful, but mrballen demonstrates what is missing! Today's music is in exactly the same situation
@@jgunther3398today’s music…. I don’t even consider a huge portion of it actual music. It’s gibberish, nonsensical talentless CHOAS. ✌🏻🫶🏻💚
Kudos to Susan Gorek! She put her own life in peril only to catch this murderer, and with that, justice has been served to the victims involved because of her work. She will always be known as a brave, smart detective that got the upper hand in this sticky situation.
nice job spoiling the entire story
@@stopplzs why are you reading the comments before watching?
@@stopplzs If I don't want the story to be spoiled I don't look at the comments. That's what the comments section is 4 for. eople to discuss the video that they're watching
@@babyturkey8342 I don't he'd make it to mensa 🤣
ok
Every time I think Mr. Ballen has outdone himself, an episode like this comes along, and I'm proven wrong! What a ride! He's the best storyteller I've ever heard.
These comments are so weird. Imagine reading this and your mother is the one who died in the “amazing story telling”. There’s a way to compliment mr. Ballen without being so completely out of touch and having no respect for the family. This isn’t it.
Completely agree. he's truly a fantastic orator. The stories are pretty horrific, but he absolutely brings the situation to life. And I'm sure MOST people understand what you meant in your compliment. Obviously the subject matter is not the intention of the compliment. I miss the days when we didn't have to spell out every single thing so someone who can't use context clues to decipher a comment that really has nothing to do with them can keep their panties unbunched. 😒😉
He's kind of irregular and a lot of people are honestly losing interest.
@@someshsaharan5813 in mrballen?
@@kelleygreenEmpressOne before the internet captured all the sheep and social media told them what to think, and before they lost interpersonal relationships skills, we DIDN'T HAVE TO explain everything to the delicate little snowflakes that don't even know what gender they are.....
Enuff' said.
Damn I can't wrap my head around how you can hate a whole family THAT much to poison them in such an excruciating way. People are so sick. Thank you Mr Ballen for a another great story! 💛
What was the method?
@@realtacobell Watch the video.
I've been attacked by neighbors, for no legitimate reason. It's really shocking to learn how much hatred can grow in people's hearts over some dumb little thing like the neighbor's noisy kids.
@@flash_flood_area
Yup. I had a Karen neighbor who threw a rock through my window because my roommate had a full ashtray in our porch. She didn’t even live in our apartment complex…and it was our porch…
Just a while ago, we heard the story of a genius stuck in a chimney, now we hear the story of a genius who found pleasure in poison-murdering others. Mr. Ballen is singlehandedly shattering MENSA's reputation. 😂
i only recognized this story like two thirds of the way through because of the way you set it up and i love that. your focus on the victims' lives was something i'd never heard before, so i had no idea what was coming until the perspective switched even though i've heard multiple tellings of this crime. love the way you centered the family
Susan may not have been "Mensa" smart but she was definitely smarter than George. My heart goes out to Peggy and her kids. I can't imagine going through something like this.
You make even your ads entertaining!
Totally, without her amazing work I'm sure George would have made the perfect murder and hot away with it.
"Smart" is actually not defined properly in American system. American system just evaluates vocabulary and a miniscule set of drab computational skills. When you look at eastern cultures, smart is a compilation of not just academic smartness but also application, innovation, emotional intelligence, social inteeligence, ethical intelligence, abstract thinking, big picture thinking, cross linking various aspects of life and occupations, personal responsibility, sensibility to different cultures, awareness of various perspectives, resourcefulness etc etc etc. I mean there are entire books on just each one of these subjects. In the grand scheme of things she was probs smarter than all of those people who are basically just good test takers.
He may have been book smart but she was the smart one
@@wrongturnVfor 👍🏻
People who are book smart aren’t necessarily street smart. A lot of “book smart” people have no idea how to read people in real life.
Poor Peggy. She truly was tough as nails, and held on until the absolute bitter end. She really deserved to make it through
Imagine 11 days of excruciating pain worse then you've ever felt, I've prayed to God because I had a really bad flu and that only lasted 5 days
I can't believe this story hasn't been made into a movie. This is one of the most original murder tales I've ever heard.
Right!!!
This would make a pretty good movie you right
ua-cam.com/video/bNrLqYQGxx4/v-deo.html its a crime documentary
MrBallen should have his own studio by now. I would trust this guy to oversee the adaptations of all these stories.
I think it’s a episode on forensic files
I can't remember why I know about thallium poisoning, but as soon as you said poison tests came back negative I had a strong feeling it was thallium poisoning, and when the Mensa portion got to the "perfect crime" game I was sure of it.
I remembered the case from an ID channel program but couldn't remember the name if the poison. But if not mistaken, they way they put it is the guy used the woman sherry as a scapegoat to draw suspicion away from himself even so far as to pretend to want to date her and actually blackmailed her somehow to help him. Not sure but thats what i remember of it.
My mind didn't go to thallium, but I recalled an episode of House where a woman poisoned her husband with gold of all things. So I was wondering if a heavy metal of some kind was involved.
Why can't it be detected?
Can't thallium be detected in blood or urine?
@@random_information7it can be detected everything known to mankind can be detected unless its alien. The problem is doctors in rare cases like this don't even attempt to test for it. Theres probably thousands of diseases that harms a humans. Unless your doctor know the situation u were in they cant properly test for it thats why they read symptoms. Also thats why u need to always be purely honest to doctors in such situations. The gamily got lucky that doctor remembered the teachings as thalium poisoning is so rare the family mostly likly would have died and doctors had run out of possible tests to give family as nobody would be able to connect the dots of thalium to them
There have been several shows TV/cable about this murder. You may have seen one.
I can't be the only one who loves Mr. Ballen bloopers. He's always so serious in his stories (rightly so) so it really cracks me up when he laughs at himself.
I love it when he laughs 🤣
Yea that’s why he shows them! He looks very cute when he giggles !
@@BigBillKelly-x2z Definitely 😀
i love them too
Nope you’re not the only one. I absolutely love his bloopers and his laugh 😂😂😂😂
This is a super famous case that's been covered probably dozens of times; but, yet again, John is so damned good this held my attention like I was hearing it for the first time. Well done.
Well said!
Yes indeed! I didn't recall this case untill he mentioned the murder mystery club. Read a book on it quite awhile ago.
@@molmer2380 If you're into that kind of thing there is an excellent episode of Forensic Files that covers it.
Dude.....Many people could've just told this "story" but the way in which you laid this story out......there is a reason that you've become so popular and successful. You are a master at your craft man. Most excellent job.
Nice copy and pasted comment that's on every video
@@MF-kv8cn that “unnecesary gibberish is my favorite part, and is why he is so big right now, because every other story teller leaves out the critical details, and Mrballen lets you know the persons day to day life story so you get really immersed and invested into the story before he hits you with the twists at the end, it is beautiful work, ive listened to all of his storys, hundreds of them, and because ive heard them all i look on youtube to find someone he is somewhat similar to him but no one else is, they all leve out names, dates, years, and details, and tell a bland 10 minute version of an interesting story, i hate it, i LOVE the long MrBallen storys, i dont need a quick story before i lose interest, how the fuck could you lose interest, its MrBallen, also by the way, he set up all that gibberish for the twist at the end, i guess its not for the smooth brains out there 😂
Anybody see these references in breaking bad ?
@@MF-kv8cn To answer your first question, you know once after a crime is commited, the survivors/witnesses etc give dozens of interviews to the police, to the media extra. So the son must have literally told how he discovered his mom in one of these interviews. Someone like mrballen can find all these details by doing enough research on the case.
Also no one is forcing you to watch his content, if you're having so many problems just stop watching
Heard of that chapter? Way better and uploads three times a week.
The way mrballen tells these stories is genius. Making you guess the whole way until bam. Unloads everything right into your face and it's amazing. Best story truth teller ever. So engaging.
I would seriously love to go have beers with Mr Ballen and just hang out and listen to him tell me stories all night long! Even if they’d be the most boring stories, he’d make them absolutely amazing!!
Agreed. He's great.
Hell yea-!
I love how he tells his stories.
You gay
He probably doesn't have time 😫😄
this dude jus a naturally gifted story teller, animated, right voice & descriptive vocabulary pull ya in everytime. props bruv keep 'em flowing
Bruv? You wouldn't be from England would you? It's good to see some English slag in the comments, Na wot I mean enit bruv.🇬🇧🇬🇧
Lol ok
Without the fear porn music he wouldn’t be that engaging. Also that crack of “but she’s not meant to smart “like I’m questioning his intelligence saying how she duped two people that were in Mensa and ruined their plans and saw right through them and was smart enough to do so right 😂
If someone tells you they’re feeling like they’re having a heart attack, DO NOT leave them unattended! If you do, it’s more probable that the person will die.
Yeah, if one of my parents said this, I'd take them to the hospital ASAP. Tough doesn't mean invincible. These kids were careless.
@@kathmandoozle yeah that aspect of the story made zero sense to me. As soon as one of my parents said the words “heart attack” I’d be dialing 911 immediately.
And do not let them drive anywhere! If it's a heart attack and they lose consciousness, they can cause an accident and potentially harm or kill themselves and others. Don't even drive them to the hospital. A suspected heart attack always warrants a call to 911 because paramedics can actually start treatment en route and save your life
It’s a very sad part of American society that poor people have to worry about just going to the hospital.
I agree. It's sometimes hard to tell though, especially in those days. My sweet grandma passed at 42 in 1965 of a massive heart attack that started 2 days prior according to the family story. She just didn't feel good. By the time they got her to the hospital stairs, she passed away at the door. Left behind 5 kids and of course decades later, me :(
Can we just appreciate that this man sat in his hot garage all day to record this video for us?
It’s a green screen
Lol
@M😂orpheus187
@@Morpheus187bruh 😂
Hands down this man has a gift for story telling best I've ever heard.
I know, right? He should host murder mysteries for mensa dudes.
@@rsrt6910 haha :D
funny you stated "hands down" ..... she is a hand surgeon
@@leighwilson8353 hahah :D
@David Y oh shit the comma police! xd
I remember this being covered in True Crime but no one can beat Mr Ballen’s story telling skills.
Forensic files
@@yrg_jj1835 still can’t beat him
@@yrg_jj1835 definitely, not as boring
@@jmac822 I actually love forensic files but I see what your saying
Damn. Your storytelling ability has long been talked about for good reason, and this might be your best work yet. This thing had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, I had no idea where it was going, and it just came together like a masterpiece. You are gifted, man. This is top notch stuff.
Hear hear!
Yessir! I love detailed storytelling. I like to picture it as it's being said.
It’s fake right?
@@Jay-ow5lf you're asking if the Story is fake?
@@RayRayJr. yeah I honestly wasn’t sure cause I was only about barely about 1/3 of the way through the video and he was kinda tip
Toeing around what coulda killed her and wasn’t giving any names so i wasn’t sure but I finished it now, yeah real duh
Mr. Ballen has won my heart with his wonderful storytelling. Especially the hand movements
Indeed! Hand movements are so smooth!
I love how his “commercials”
Are just as entertaining as the rest of the main stories.
He is just freaking amazing.
I never knew that storytelling could be such an art. He really is an artist in every sense of the word. Simply the best.
also like they way its not stop, ie he doesn't break to a pre recorded him . Just goes onto a side note, this guy should read for Audible.
@@ickleshouse I think he already does
That’s kind of what I was thinking. Him not even knowing that he was a great storyteller, great gifts people have without even knowing it and it’s beautiful how it gets discovered. ♥️ He’s the only one I listen to
I want a wallaby tooth salad!
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. Understand The Catechism of The Catholic Church and The Athanasius Creed. ua-cam.com/play/PLUcjoO2Bj8AsiGYdzfqZyXae1lhMw_p2s.html
You told this story so well, I thought up until the end that Sherry (Susan) was definitely the killer. Absolutely crazy. So sad that Peggy lost her life.
OMG, I thought it was Susan too. Great telling by a brilliant man, MR B👍🏼
At first I thought she was gonna be too till she kept asking George questions about the murder mystery game then I realized that she was a PI
Me too! What a twist that was.
Just what I need at this moment…my MrBallen fix to take my mind off of everything…at least for 40 minutes. Thank you!
Same!
Agreed 👍🏻
🤟 same
WHY DOES GAS COST AS MUCH AS BEEF USED TOO!!! Oh. Mr. Ballen. Forty minutes of pure enjoyment ahead, thank God, I needed a break too lol
He always saves my day too! I have brain cancer and am bedridden and there is nothing better for me than to watch Mr. Ballen 😊❤️🎗️
I have said it before and I'll say it again. You are an absolutely spectacular storyteller. I love how you treat narrative. As a writer I try to do the same (mostly in health comms and marketing for small businesses, but still).I take notes during your videos and podcasts to try to inform my writing better. I realize that writing and telling are two very different things, but they borrow heavily from one another. Thank you for your excellent commitment to this amazing tradition.
I remember this case. It just goes to show that intelligence not anchored by good ethics and morals breeds arrogance and narcissism.
Based, we make the characters we play. When we stand by and watch, we become what we hate.
This is such a brilliant comment. I love the truth it rings!
Same
Your analogy is faulty! Breaking the law is either intelligent or smart. The perp is just opportunistic pri*k and attempt of leaving town after a murder is a typical criminal mindset
In my experience arrogance and narcissism tends to be pretty even across the board. Loooot of smug dummies out there.
You have such a gift John. I could listen to your stories all day long, unfortunately i have already watched every single upload and i get so excited for a new one. Have to say this was definitely a banger.
Thank you so much Darlene!
Ave u listened to his podcasts they r soooooo good to x
@@jessicaholland1903 I second this! Loving the podcast exclusives!
Good thing Nixon isn't around, everyone is having so much fun with mr.ballen, it would get banned like *snaps* that
Mr. Ballen, today was the day I introduced my adult son to your stories. He was mesmerized and is likely binge watching your videos right now. Your unique talents for storytelling is reminiscent of my Cherokee Grandfather’s style. Btw I am a 55+ year old lady, and my grandfather was born in the early 1900’s. Your style is familiar and very interesting. Have a wonderful day!!
Very cool!!!
What an incredible experience and beautiful memories to be blessed with. 🙏🏾☺️
@@MrBallen my adult son and I discovered we have both been avid Ballers for 2 years but neither of us knew the other were super fans. When I went to tell him one of your stories he goes heeeyyy mom did u watch my man Mr. Ballen? I was like WHAT???? That’s my man!!!! My son is a police officer and he just told me the coolest story. He plays your videos every week for the guys at the police station. If he forgets the guys make sure to remind him by yelling it’s Ballin Time!!!😍 😘🥰
Oh my goodness Cherokee Granddad, how wonderful. My history isn’t as interesting as yours but my Grandad was English born early 1900,s and grew up very poor. He could barely read so I remember him just telling me stories about his boyhood, his family, the village he grew up in, the people etc etc. Some of his best stories were made up. Anyway, best wishes Sandi, Marie in Australia 🦘🐨
You're welcome! I found sometime just like Mr.Ballen! ua-cam.com/channels/ErKT6kbNTc4wEZy4ra7I6w.html
I found the upside to horrific addiction!! I was mixing heroin and Xanax, A LOT OF IT, was an addict for 12 years straight my entire adult life. Finally got clean for a year and a half now, and apparently I watched a bunch of these videos because I liked them, but have no memory of it 😂 More Mr. Ballen content for MEEE!!! 😂
Yes and you get to forget the horrid shit you did to yourself and others as well, silver linings.
Good for you man!! It’s always good to see another one of us who have made it!
I broke my neck in 2010 and got addicted to prescribed hydrocodone/oxycodone for a couple years and then in 2012 they started trying to fix the opioid epidemic and so i got pulled off with no warning. I was still in lots of pain and I was dependent, I found heroin within 6 months and struggled with it(and benzos at times and uppers at times) for about the same amount of time. All in all I spent 2010-2021 hopelessly addicted. I’ve been clean for almost 3 years now!
What’s funny though is I spent the first year of my recovery in sober living and I was so miserable, it didn’t matter what I did, I was just bored and craving H(which is to be expected as the brain heals). However it was during that time that I found Mr. Ballen and he provided me with lots super entertaining stories that helped keep me distracted 😂.
Congrats again on your year and a half man! That’s no small achievement! Great job 🙏
@@WildNightBloomI’m sure they remember PLENTY. Continuing with the addiction would ensure never having to actually feel and make amends for the wrong things she did during their addiction. It’s an extremely difficult process when you get your emotions back in recovery. VERY VERY DIFFICULT 😥
Lol these videos helped me in and of of addiction these are addictive
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve driven by Dr. Diana Carr’s office and never realized this story was attached to her. I grew up in Sebring, FL… so this story hits home. Literally. It should be noted that Dr. Diana passed away in 2018 from a stroke.
Good, may she rest in piss. She was obviously involved and does not deserve the respect of being called doctor
Good riddance tbh
Not surprised that a stroke got her after seeing her photo. Then again it coulda been all that big brain strain from being so much smarter than everyone else to marry a murderer.
That's absolutely crazy, but good to know. Ty. I think I'm going to google my doctors.
YippieKaiyea!
I can't fathom how completely terrifying and horrific Peggy's suffering was. It breaks my heart hearing the pain she was in for months on end.
I was quite confused what is going on with her, why is she so resitant to medical treatment? Is it because it is expensive?
@@1mol831 I believe it was because she had 50,000 times the amount of Thallium in her system. Pain medication wouldn't/couldn't touch her.
@@HypocrisyHuntress This.
As well as the fact that no one knew it was thallium poisoning until it was far too late, there was no way for them to give the correct treatments in time. They could only apply general medications to treat the pain, which of course did not do much due to the severe amount of thallium in her system.
@Witty Witty no way my guy. I’ll concede that Diana probably played a part in the murder/poisonings, but George is not innocent no matter what his wimpy disposition was.
@@1mol831 not just that, you'd be surprised as to how many people are terrified of hospitals and doctors.
You know how to keep all the perfect parts out for suspense. Like you never tell too much unnecessary detail or too little. You’re so good at this.
🙏🙏🙏
As an American, trying to sleep off a heart attack instead of seeking immediate help is the most American thing I've heard today.
Yeah really!
I was accepted into Mensa as a teenager in the 60s. I don't think I've ever encountered such a bunch of losers. They're not geniuses at all, they're just good at IQ tests, which means diddly squat in real life. Great story, Mr Ballen. 3000 years ago you'd have been a Homeric bard holding your listeners entnralled as you recited your tales.
Ironically anyone who takes IQ seriously is an idiot.
Exactly. I worked for a guy who was a member of Mensa. He had his office at home so you were in his home alone with him all day. I could write a book on the weirdness. I felt so uncomfortable around him I lasted a few months then got the heck out.
@@sarahholland2600 I’m noisy. What’re some weird things you witnessed?
@@sarahholland2600 Yeah I'm nosey too, I wanna know lol
@@sarahholland2600 I’m with Bebe. Elaborate on some of the weird stuff. Lol I’m definitely gonna do a little Googling on Mensa too
I have watched many shows about Peggy's murder but MrBallen's a legend at storytelling.He always makes sure that the victims stories are told and not just what happens to them and their killers. MrBallen could tell us the weather in story format and we would be glued to our seats.
@@Wesssss84 His old video's don't all include death or murder either, it's just what is appealing and the best story format type stories, therefore gets the most views and entertains the audience the most. 👍
Haha yeah we wouldn't know about the stormy weather until last minute to spook us more😂😂
You have to admit that sometimes the weather is strange, dark, and mysterious...
@@TheBenjdude
But unfortunately it's rarely if ever delivered in story format.
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Brilliant episode! I love how you keep the suspense going and drop all the facts at just the right time. Thank you for all of the strange, dark & mysterious entertainment you bring us……in such a wonderful & respectful manner.
I've heard this case a hundred times, but I couldn't wait to listen as your storytelling abilities are unmatched on this platform.
I've heard the story and seen it a hundred times too. But to hear him tell it, it's like hearing it for the first time.
Indeed I often look for stories I've heard before on Mr. Ballens channel. It just feels different!
Yeah he is good, but he could pick up the pace quite a bit. 20% faster storyline movement.
@@thelittledetailscr7231 nope I love the longer videos I watched all 40 mins minus adds and intro
@@thelittledetailscr7231 that's a matter of taste. I personally enjoy Mr. Ballen's more laid-back style.
My dad was a part of a Mensa chapter growing up, and he ended up leaving. I asked him after watching this episode and the first thing he talked about was the MASSIVE egos that every individual had. I showed him this video and he laughed saying this is no surprise. Their idea of fun isn't typical.
I used to go to chapter meetings which were basically just cocktail parties where the kids could play and the holiday parties with my parents. I did find the newsletter amusing. Especially some of the classifieds back in the late 70s looking for mates. Wild
It honestly seems like a pretty cool group. It’s a shame that they’re all full of themselves
they just totally waste their gifts. you cant really have it all lol
@@baconbitz7804 it really depends on your local group
@@redefinedliving5974 i have noticed this amongst most really smart people i have met in my life. They totally waste their gifts and abilities
For George, thinking he was so much smarter than everyone, he ended up being played like a fiddle by Susan. Kudos to her for outsmarting the MENSA genius. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Smart doesn't equal wise.
You know that Einstein couldn't tie his own shoe laces ,right?
Just goes to show that someone who understands people can run laps around someone who's book smart.
@@louellacharlton4425 I did not know that. It made me giggle..thanks!
Thalium was used in an assassination attempt by the South African security police under Apartheid in 1982. They detained Eastern Cape student activist Siphiwo Mthimkhulu and poisoned him, knowing that the effects of the poison would manifest later when he was no longer in custody thus allowing the security police deniability. Luckily he was rushed to a good hospital in Cape Town where a neurologist was able to diagnose him in time. He proceeded to sue the minister of Police which was a great embarrassment to the apartheid state. This ultimately led to his direct 'elimination' by the security police.
"long time listener, first time caller" - Mr Ballen, My adult daughter and i Independently found you and your UA-cam channel. We love talking about your stories and cant wait for your content to drop. Thank you, from the both of us, for your story telling, research, presentation and work ethic. Also, thank you for your military service. We wish you nothing but success and the riches you deserve. Bryan
Hello Mr obvious 😊😁 love that series her on bob and tom
I’m the one that showed your daughter 😎
I've heard this story a couple of times before but told with the focus on the murderer. With the approach Mr. Ballen took, it wasn't until the last few minutes that I recognized it. His approach was so gripping and gut wrenching! It take a great story teller to take something fairly well known and make it totally new!
Remember when you used to do those stories about places you aren’t supposed to go, but people went to anyway? Or, those spooky Forrest stories? Could you do some more like that?
i love all his content but I also really miss the places you're not supposed to go series!!
No he doesn't do that anymore unfortunately. He's rich now he only uploads once a week now. He did those stories when he was coming up and grinding now that he's made it he's to busy moving into new mansions and getting his pool lined with gold. I miss when mr ballen was poor too.
Yeees. Back when it was posting 3,4 or even 5 times a week 😭. Those stories were definitely very interesting. Or the images or vids with the disturbing background stories
He has no obligation to post any more than he feels comfortable with. Amazing storytelling takes time. Keep up the great work Mr. Ballen
I really like the places you aren’t supposed to go too. Another vote for more :)
So many things. First, I love these stories. I'm obsessed. Thank you, Mr. Ballen.
Second, and I don't typically discuss this, but it seems pertinent, so...I'm a member of Mensa, and I'm furious that my chapter doesn't host a regular "murder mystery weekend." Sternly worded letter incoming.
Finally, I have never heard this story make the rounds, and while I can understand why the org doesn't advertise it, I'm stunned that it's not discussed and analyzed behind proverbially closed doors at every gathering! Anyway, what a twist ending! Thank you for sharing!
Yeeeaaaaahhhhhhhh I really don't blame the AMC for discouraging us from doing them. Trepal is also one of the only people who has been permanently banned from ever rejoining.
@@rock_star2010 Fair point by you! 🦉
The fact that this lady and her family waited a week before going back to the hospital is so frustratingly insane…
It makes me mad too but tbh even if she did go sooner it wouldn't have mattered as she consumed too much and I'm pretty sure there was no way to save her even if she went the day she starting feeling those symptoms
She was American and not rich. I'm certain that the $$$ hospital bills had a lot to do with that. One time I passed out and cracked my head open and was dripping blood and still didn't go to the hospital because I can't afford to go unless I absolutely have to. That's the American "health care" system ... poor people can't afford to go to the hospital.
@@Violetbunnyfish isn't at least emergency like yours free of charge?
@@aygennegya lol nope. Everything from ambulance rides to childbirth has a price tag
@@Violetbunnyfish That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. There are sooooo many programs that help poor people with their medical bills. Obama instituted a bunch as well. Not going to the hospital because you don't understand the health care system is your own fault. Sure we can do better but you need to do more research and actually understand how to work it to your benefit. Don't be stupid, which is what you're doing, and go to the fucking hospital.
This story is proof that being a genius and being smart are not always the same thing. A whole group of geniuses and none of them figured out that she was undercover and she was able to solve "the perfect murder" from within.
All geniuses I met, which were quite of few, because I used to work at a pharmaceutical company, all the one's I met, were totally stupid and acted sort of like children, to put it mildly, there was one chemist that would almost cry literally if you took his parking spot, and I can see that these guy was the same way, he got fixated with those people and killed one of them and almost killed the rest just because he didn't like them...
Undercover what? Bushwacker!
@@miss2000varietyshow injecting him with thallium and letting him die through weeks of torturous pain? No they aren't.
Death through lethal injection is a million times quicker in comparison. He deserves the incredible pain of death by thallium poisoning, but the government would never sanction that.
The undercover policewoman wasn't a genius but she was street smart.Something I imagine the murderer was not.
@@albertdominick140 I had an uncle like that. Charles. He was an inventor and full of all sorts of technological wonder, but he was a moron and a total asshole prone to rages when something was beyond his comprehension or comfort. Come to think of it, I had another uncle who was absolutely brilliant, like, always computing something fascinating. He was way cool. Props to uncle Jack.
mr. ballen is by far the best true crime story teller. i listen to him all the time, his podcasts especially lately since i watched almost every episode on youtube. thank you for helping me with my boredom when i was in the hospital
Get better!!
MrBallen and ThatChapter are the best 👍🏼
@SnoopyDoo far from it - an infected cyst i was most likely born with. i had my first surgery a little over a week ago. just recovery time is super super boring
I usually never comment in a video, but i have to come up and say that this is the best storytelling of a murder that i've ever seen. I was nowhere close to the truth the entire time, great video!
Poor Peggy, all she wanted was to give her children a happy and fulfilling life. So glad the rest of her family survived. RIP Peggy 🙏
Kudos to their police woman who gained the trust of George and actually got George to hand over the keys of his house to her. That was brilliant police work
As soon as I heard about the murder mystery plan, I knew she was a cop. Suzanne is proof that if you “play nice” you get more done as an investigator than if you act like a jerk.
@@cpmow831 there's a good chunk of cases that took alot of dedication from law enforcement to private eyes that some have lasted years. Nowhere near as exciting as the cases we see here on YT, and not even the great JCS could fathom the extent of their methods .
I thought she was the murderer. Faked me out.
@@pargolf3158 I was biting into that same biscuit. Tried to figure out the connection of her to them, and not the suspects. Very interesting story telling.
@@pargolf3158 especially with the “It’s DOCTOR” thing. She probably was involved. Hubby wouldn’t have had that knowledge. The doctor might have
Agatha Christie ,the famous murder misery writer, always said that intelligent egotistical murderer's biggest downfall was that they couldn't stop talking about it.
They feel so proud and Superior that they can't help but talk about it to stroke their egos even if they incriminate themselves by doing so.
Her understanding of the psyche of this type of killer is what made her the most famous mystery writer in history.
I love her.. I've read all her books
Exact reasons why I can never be a serial killer. I'm a Leo so....I'm DEFINITELY going brag about it 😆
Sounds like Trump: too narcissistic to shut his own self-incriminating cake hole 😂
One of her books is where the mad bastard got the idea of thallium poisoning in the first place - a copy of The Pale Horse was found in his garage.
Murder misery?
Binge watching all your videos while I deep clean my house!!! I literally listen to you while I cook, clean and iron!! Love your story telling ❤
Such great work. Thanks for the stories and, as a 26 year Naval veteran, thank you for your service and the sacrifices you made while serving. Peace brother.
Thank you!!!
Thank you for your service!
@@MrBallen yes
Mr. Ballen is the Bob Ross of story telling.
Happy little trees to all!
All the happy little trees are dead bodies… just like Bob Ross paintings
@@CMTorn0311nooo... The happy trees aren't dead bodies... The paintings themselves are where the body's are.. WHICH happy little tree it's under, it's the fun part !
LoL
Bob Ross was a charlatan and a false painter
Happy little clouds to you
Thank you for sharing the victim's story and not glorifying the predator(s). The family is still local and I can only imagine every time their story is rehashed it has to pain them all over again. You eloquently told more of their story than I've ever heard or read previously.
You are the only person I actually watch your ads. They are entertaining and you actually put in effort in telling them. I hope they pay you extra because you deserve it.
And this is why Mr. Ballen brings in the big numbers kids. The whole structure telling of this story is unreal, unpredictable and giftedly told. This is more than just storytelling and relaying information. This is a master class in cerebral entertainment through old school storytelling.
I just commented on another comment….
I totally agree! On other channels, I kinda get disappointed when they tell so much in the intro that we already know what’s going to happen. I actually commented this exact thing and one person replied to me with what I said was “totally inappropriate!” Maybe I chose my words unwisely (although I don’t think I did) but I still think that I am allowed to have an opinion on the format that I prefer. This case Mr. B shared with us, is exactly the way I prefer listening to these unfortunate cases.
From the title, I was expecting a story about pharmaceutical companies.
@@heytoast7129 conspiracy nut cope
okay, little kid named andrew
I was going to comment on my own, but yours hit the nail on the head. Well said, sir.
That twist.. wow. I could not see that coming at all and was so confused when the police turned up at the house just after she entered. Masterfully done. You even had me pondering if it was Pye's ex-girlfriend who came back on the scene briefly. I think this is the best story you've told to date.
Me neither! I thought for sure that Dr. Nutty was the supposed "affair" & she poisoned them.
Same here, I though I knew where this was going, but the Plot Twist!!!
Yeah I agree this is his best video so far.
The amount of detail in each of these stories makes it feel like you’re experiencing it first hand and makes them all the more harrowing. You’re work in showing not only respect for the victims and their families, but doing the research necessary to do their stories justice is remarkable and commendable. Great job as always!
Discovered this channel recently and have been binging these videos waaaaaaaaaay too fast.
I'm dreading the point where I've watched them all and have to wait a whole week for the next one like some kind of caveman
been following him for over a year now. I truly admire the human being and family man he is. my father being a Vietnam vet and Marine,cop, mayor just finally retiring the other day at 74. I admire him taking up the post he did as a seal. by chance falling into becoming a content creator and not only that but starting a non-profit for all the stories he's told. constantly being on top of putting out content with his family and wife for our enjoyment. Not even knowing that sometimes it's the best part of the day for us, just something nice to get us through. I just got to say I'm really thankful John, always wishing the best to you and yours and the people you speak about and all who listen. thank you!
I’m really touched. Thank you for the note alexei 🙏
I agree!! 💯
@@MrBallen I've been following him as well. Since the beginning. Before there was even music at the beginning. I always comment & never get noticed with a likes🤷♀️😉
Oh well I love this channel so much, idc. The storytelling is perfection👍🏻
Blessings 👑🙏🏻🕊❣
@@misska7535 I’ll notice you 👍
My sentiments exactly. It's all about his energy and ora there's just something different about him. I love me some Mr B❤
Hey there Mr Ballen, it's just after midnight here in South Africa and not even an hour ago, I was recommending you to one of my close friends about your channel. Literally the first thing I said was: "Mr Ballen tells the best strange, dark and mysterious tales delivered in story format while torturing the like button" and oh boy did he love you within the first story he watched! You're super awesome Mr Ballen, please never leave UA-cam!😭❤️❤️❤️
Awe sweet I'm also busy watching, respect from secunda mpumalanga
You saw the one he did based here at home?? Durban I think??
@@talibantiagotaliyago7705 no bro, maybe you can remember the name?
True, Mr Ballen seems to be an awesome guy, a great story teller; besides he used to be a navy seal.
Calm down. And take a breath dude.
I’ve heard this story from a number of different sources but Mr. Ballen’s narration is by far the best and is the reason I never skip any of his episodes, even if I’m familiar with what happened. He’s just so exciting to listen to.
same
you never skip his vids cause he's awesome :D and you bare too
I've never heard this version of the story. I heard the coke was left on the front porch and one of the family member took it inside once seeing it sitting there. I never heard that he broke into their home and placed the coke in the pantry. Also they showed where the bottle tops were removed and only could be seen that the tops were removed from looking at them under a microscope which showed tiny scrape marks...George had painstakingly pried each top off and then used his bottle capper to put them back on. I think the wife knew, but they couldn't prove it. I think this story was on 60 minutes.
@@LifesPeachy321 oh no kidding? I’ve never heard this till last night that’s wild.
I like how John is just chilling in a garage while telling one of the most terrifying stories I’ve ever heard in my entire life💀
Green screen
@@MantisTshagr/wooosh
It’s STRANGE how over 6 million people gather on Fridays to listen to this gem tell us DARK stories. It’s no MYSTERY why he’s second to none!
There's no MYSTERIOUS reason that he's number one.
It's STRANGE how this was also the same comment on last week.
Not to mention, we're watching from all over the world and different time zones. I'm watching from New Zealand. 🌍😁👌❤️
@@lindyjourde7411 thats cool im in tampa florida lol
Mr Ballen 🎼 I Love Your Stories 💖 Greetings from Albuquerque, New Mexico USA 🇺🇸☮️🌹
what i love about this guy is he even has answers ready for our unnecessary questions, like i just wondered why would he have a bottle topper thing , he immediately says he used to brew his beer. Love you man!
I love the fact that MrBallen’s custom ads are so over-the-top that even *he* can’t manage a single take without breaking down in laughter! Let’s take a second to appreciate both the effort *and* these light-hearted moments when our erstwhile storyteller breaks character.😁
I don’t think you are using erstwhile properly.
@@gannelcordero7381 Definitely not, it means former. 🤣
You're misusing "erstwhile," a natural mistake when assuming its meaning from context, cuz the context is usually just a vague compliment...but it means **former**. [Just an FYI, not trying to be snotty ;) ]
bruh.. mrballen can fart and there will be a 1000 word comment about how it was the best fart in the history or smth
It’s not funny though, but I’m here every night
I've heard this story 2 other times on TV and know this story well, but decided to listen to him tell it...wow. So much better!! There were details in this version that weren't in the other 2 TV versions! Loved it! ❤️
I love the way that you present each layer of information and how you systematically introduce each person in such a way that just when you think you have everything all figured out, suddenly there is a another twist or turn to the story and it keeps you on the edge of your seat! You tell stories like no other!
The undercover officer, Susan Goreck worked this case for almost a year. She later wrote a book, titled Poison Mind.
I've heard this story and watched this tale told by so many others, including Forensic Files, and only MrBallen can tell it like this, you're an amazing storyteller
John truly is a gifted storyteller. I didnt even realize that i’ve heard this story before until the ending was unveiled.
Me too; I seen this on tv before; the whole time he kept showing George face I was like he looks like a killer; like seen him before. I forgot the story though and when he got to the coca cola everthing started coming back to me.
Made this video 30mins too long.
I realized about halfway through when he mentioned the mensa couple and their "murder mystery weekends" I was like, I think I may have heard this story before lol
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More by-the-numbers channels exist, dude. Maybe find'em? Or keep whinging, if that's your thing.
Yeah he is. And he keeps getting better.
I'm so glad that Susan exists! She really did an amazing thing catching George so that he's never able to ever kill or hurt anyone ever again. I'm so glad that the two boys survived, when I heard they got sick too, I was really scared that they also weren't going to make it. I hope Peggy rests in peace.
MENSA have high logical intelligence, but not emotional intelligence. The detective took advantage of George’s low Emotional Quotient and how easy it was to flatter him
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maybe the neighbours should’ve been quiet 🤫
Amazing woman.. That level of commitment and dedication is outstanding not to mention her wits to outsmart her genius-level subjects..
Definitely. I'm thinking the higher-ups in the police dept must have chosen her because she had already displayed a *high* level of intelligence in the past.
That’s not hard. A lot of Mensa members have no common sense.
The problem is when your as smart as they are you lose some of the common sense of the average person. I always believed a scientist should have one average joe following them around to handle the "simpler" tasks that might boggle the mind of the super genius 😂
@@WaltzwithAI put it under the vent Dave…
Love the channel. Your story telling keeps you hooked on the story. Throwing in real pictures makes things hit close to home. Really good stuff.
Susan deserves an Academy Award. I am obsessed with true crime so, I have often heard the stories you cover before. That fact is irrelevant as your method of storytelling is so clever that I listen anyway. The journey you take us on is so much fun even if I already know the plot. Thank you sir.
Same! I've also already heard some of the stories he covers but I always listen anyways because nobody does it better than John! It was cool to find out that he actually writes the UA-cam stories himself and then his adorable mom writes the podcast stories and he just tweaks them to really fit his style.
Awesome job Detective Susan. So sad that Peggy lost her life all because neighbors didn't like her. Sometimes people are too smart for their own good. Thank you for always telling us stories in a riveting way, Mr. Ballen! We all love listening to each of your updates.
@dliguori25 Susan was the woman who got close to the murderers...
Your story telling is second to none! Twists and turns constantly!
This was such a twist, I didn't expect Susan to be an undercover cop or that the Mensa couple were murderers - you delivered the story phenomenally!
Me too! I thought she was going to turn out to be the ex that Pi was cheating on Peggy with. Such a great twist though! My jaw dropped!
I suspected the Mensa couple to be murders and Susan to be the one figuring out what they did. He did only say it one time, and the rest of the story he avoided repeating this fact any way, that Susan met the Mensa couple AFTER Peggy already died. :P
He delivers every story phenomenally!
**Spoiler** T_T
Thanks mfkr
Finding out the "twist" and learning who the true villain is was very well done. It is so sad about Peggy passing away, though. I'm glad that the boys were saved.
Yeah, the whole time I thought Shery/Susan was the bad guy.
@@schmellenberg4967 : Yes, so did I.
The killer in this case has to be simultaneously one of the smartest and dumbest criminals in history. On one hand, he used a very potent and uncommon poison with vague symptoms that make it difficult to identify. On the other hand, he cooked up a "fictional" scenario that bore an uncanny resemblance to his crime, distributed it to dozens of people, and bragged about his knowledge of poisons to an unusually curious stranger who turned out to be an undercover cop.
I honestly believe its not just stupidity but more so his ego. He felt like his plan was so good it had to be shared and he likely wanted a sort of recognition for it while also not being caught. Someone with a lesser ego would probably avoid mentioning anything at all involving a murder.
@@MurkyTheWolf 100% As I was watching, i was thinking man, crazy how "geniuses" lack street smartness. Him and his wife not seeing red flags abt Susan and catching on. At the end of the day, the most intelligent are humans too and vulnerable to the most basic human instincts.
@@zeffery101 well, mensa takes in the top 2%, given the worlds population.. we are talking about above 140 million people..
to me as a swede, that is a high number of people.. (we have 10 million)
but then, those who join mensa in the first place have already shown they have something to prove.. given the amount of people with that iq and the low number who actually join mensa.. well.. people join to show off.. they have an ego and they arent actually that smart to begin with..
it doesnt take a genius to join mensa.. you can pay, cheat and retake their test how many times you want.. people do it for clout, that includes stupid people.
I feel as though ego and stupidity are justifiably comparable because the ego makes us do stupid decisions based on simply how we “feel”
@@abril443 i think what separates us is the knowing... the self-aware.. ive been administered the wais iii test and they claim i belong in the 2%, yet i consider myself an idiot.. im fully aware of all my flaws..
if i were to go brag about some stupid shit, i will only open the doors to more investigation when it comes to my life and my flaws.. therefore i dont.. i would assume the real geniuses out there would do the same.. keep it hidden and use it only when it furthered their own goals.
only 2% of the worlds population has green eyes, so ill happily stay in that category instead.
Missing 411 blows my mind like nothing else. I pray for the families of the missing. Im from Washington State. Just North of North Bend, actually! Thanks Dave, for your incredible and important work on these unimaginably sad yet mind blowing stories of missing loved ones. Keep it coming!
I tried to get some books about a month ago, but the site said it was down until recently? Something like that. Gonna check again. I want them all. And ill see you soon! ✌️
We love you John! This is the first time I’ve seen about the organization to help victims of violent crime. That’s so amazing and wonderful. You can actually change the ending of THEIR stories by helping them. What a wonderful thing to do! Xoxo
my boyfriend and I are literally dependent on this man (our favorite you-tuber!) for strange, dark, and mysterious stories to entertain us, and sometimes to brighten our day. I don't know what I'd fall asleep to on Monday nights now without his podcast!
You can fall asleep to this? Half the time I'm freaked out and on high alert while listening haha.
That sounds like weard threesomes
Bruh…girls watch murder documentaries to chill… no wonder ya’ll like drama so much lmao