WOW what a difference......I still love my Gen1 widow maker. Its like having a oversized two stroke dirt bike lol.....with a crazy power band. And still turns heads 14 years later. 😎
Rajesh Golder true. he lost a lot of time because of the gear changing. I have a dynojet quick shifter on my zx10r 2006 and it’s faster than a 2018 stock quickshifter
A heavily modded 2nd gen ZX10 is summin serious, I've beaten ZX14's & busas but that power didn't come cheap. It came with a lot of trial & error but a 8.3 slip with a little nitrous shows what can be done. Money can be a equalizer, it's all about how much 2 you wanna spend. Down here in grudge bike country I've seen several 1000's wit 210-215 rear wheel horsepower, but it didn't come cheap. The question you have 2 ask yourself is how much do you wanna spend & how serious are you about your goal.
Modded on 93 octane it was 198 or so to the rear wheel. Didn't have that long of a swing arm & definitely not a rider of either Ricky or Chris's ability. The average decent rider is not jumping on either 1 of those bikes & putting up anywhere close 2 that kinda number. Those are truly professional riders. There skills alone are worth 4-5 tenths of a second. There is a video on UA-cam where Jeremy Teasley rides a BMW & beats a ZX14, then gets on the same ZX14 he had just beaten & beats the BMW. Rider mod is more important than ppl think
@@natelsx me 2. It's gonna come down 2 who gets the better light. Those bikes are so evenly matched you could throw a blanket over them. The Zuke wit the steady midrange & the ZX10 with the bigger top end. They are both good bikes
@@1tuffzx10 So, true brother. I had a 88 zx10 back in the day and I beat some ZX-11's and even XX blackbirds. My advantage was that I was light at 150 lbs. and regularly took that bike to the track to 1/4 runs. I got really good at launching her and would smoke those guys right off the line. If the track or measure street race was a few hundred ft. longer they would have caught me but they didn't, ha, ha, ha! Best night was a street race against a guy that had a relatively new blackbird. I think he spent ~10K on the bike and smoked him on a 10 yr. old bike! We talking standing quarters not this roll on horse hockey.
They're light that's why they are fast. Everyone way underestimates how important weight is. You can not make up for weight with power, lighter weight will always be superior if taken advantage of.
Sure you can. If there are 4 pounds for every HP (with driver) on the gen 1 and some other bike/rider combo is 40 pounds heavier, it will need about 10 more HP to keep up.
as i understood it (and i have not yet ridden one) the reason she got the rep she did, and the nickname Widowmaker was because of how raw and brutal the power was. i remember when she came out every motorcycle mag wrote that only experienced sportbike riders should try it, because it was difficult to control the hit of power.
Had a 05 Titanium for 8yrs...went thru 4 sets of fork seals and cracked the frame due to its inability to keep the front wheel on the road. God I loved that bike...
Bought my first Zx10 summer 2019, I have owned a bunch of Gsxr 1ks 750s and a few r1's. Idk just something about these 04/05 10s. Now given it's not the fastest bike, but they hold their own for what it is. I would like to do another tear down and build it back up for Nitrous.. just recently bought a New clutch and few other goodies. Cannot wait for spring so I can ease my way back up to the Track 🤠😉💨
I use to have a 04 called the Hulk. At Willow Springs coming out of turn 9 doing 90mph I grabbed a hand full& was sideways laying down rubber. I tried@ Irwindale& it was a handful at the dragstrip. One late night I did a test run at around 180 before I backed off it still felt like it wanted more. With all that being said that bike moved. Also pro racer Earl Rowloff who use to hold the most wins@ Willow still rides his 05 at the fastest road in the west, Big Willow. Straight facts!!!!!
Oh wow you proved you are faster than a 13 year old bike.... & the widow maker is the most savage zx10r EVER made!! With 0 rider aids & one of the best power to weight ratios ever!! If speed demon still had his first gen runnin like it used to, he would give your brand new $20k+ bike a run for its money.... Just sayin
I think u guys don't get that the gen one is a race bike not a drag bike. 400 lbs wet wheel base of a 600 and had around 190 hp and the crank for its day it was a beast. But egr with over 200 hp is going to walk it in a drag race. Put them on a race track with good riders and I'll put my money on the gen one because that's what it's was designed for. These new bikes are crazy fast. In a straight line.
Its 2021 and I ride gen 1 zx10r with no electronics and rider assist my foot and hands are my rider assist!!! New bikes are designed for people who cant ride! Dont want nothing aiding me but me.
I ride a gen 1 10r and it stays with all the new bikes no problems sounds the best definitely has the biggest flames turns heads every way i go. I dont need any rider aids ask to swaps bikes on a blast see if they can keep up with you with no electronics to help them out all you get is your mad assa how does that 18 year old bike go so quick. Right fingers are your abs right wrist is your traction control and balls like boulders sure does help.
The gen1 and gen2 have all the way thru redline powerband. Is on gen3 kawi started focusing on a bit more high rpm powerband and kinds more track oriented machines . if you setup you suspension to a more daily comfy commute ride and drop -1 front,an ecu commander to smooth its nervous low rpm throttle and a solid brand steering damper it becomes an excellent commuter for people who refuse to buy more suited commuters
I don’t even know what some of the fuss is about in these comments, lmao. Some people just get stuck in the past with how fast these older bikes used to be in their day. Either there’s some denial/delusion going on or these cats don’t realize how fast your gen 5 is. Weird. Maybe your gen 1 walks everybody at the local bike night but this gen 5 is a proper go fast machine. Period
I got a 2018 zx10 a bit ago,and holy shit will it mop the floor with anything just about,I can do great against h2's,bren tuned s1krr's and gen 1 zx10s arent even close to the 5th gens.Keep in mind,I only have a full exhaust on it,and I'm a light rider.
I think that a rider who never had a gen 1 is a rider without history... And in what comes to gen 1, there is a name SpeeDemonZ .... i recently asked him whats up and he is been very busy around track days and rebuilding his bike... But for the state, as a Rider here is a part of my history wich i am so proud, my Zx10r gen 1 "BrutaLLe": ua-cam.com/video/VI_raPcxgHY/v-deo.html
I’m watching the gen 1 zx10r rider and how he shifts an he keeps letting go of the throttle when pressing the clutch in. That bike needs a better rider .
JUNKYARD GOAT i have the same exact bike it’s a rocket out of hell brother and pulls straight through every single gear! Not to be fucked with !!! The GHOST if u know u know 👌🏽
Gen4/5 is def the fastest. Hard to beat that new technology and the hp difference. The thing that the Gen1 has going for it is the weight.. It's certainly light weight.
Yessir this is why I bought then gen 4 in 2022. If you look it up almost all reviews point to the gen 4 being the fastest most race spec built bike they made. In 2011 specifically they were gunning to beat BMW at the world susperbike showdown that's why it got rebuilt
Not the fastest but the most brutal raw extreme smile factor kawa ever made. But it weights like a 600 and with few good add ons if you could let its power on the road and not on the one wheel it can kill modern era supersport 1000cc bikes in a heartbeat And her looks always amaze till today
Not really a fair comparison the 16 with a tuned quick shifter vs a guy who is closing the throttle or clutching each gear isn’t really a race it’s clear he’s losing all momentum on the shifts. I think the gen 1 with a quick shifter and some head work and cams is a pretty close race. Rider mod on the 05 needed too.
It looks strapped down,that's only for roll racing and drag nights,otherwise you would have to be a complete moron to drive a bike with a fully strapped down front fork setup on the road with bumps and corners.You can lower the bike a bit and look somewhat like that,but you need travel in those front forks.
Lol I love this question because regardless of horse ponnies lol how many do you know how to use? I just switched to a gen 2 10r from a 03zx6r and and it takes an artist to effectively put all 155 hoses on the black top you can exceed the traction capabilities of your tires or the surface your riding at any given moment to much throttle you power wheelie or you spin the tire at the end of the day more horses ain’t gonna poot you in first place lol good throttle control and a sac full of nuts may tho
A properly setup Gen one is running equal or better 1/4 mile times than the Gen 5, my swb Gen one is 25hp less than my Gen 4 yet Gen I ran 8.9@149 Gen 4 ran 8.7@153.. Gotta put a good rider on these bikes if your gonna compare
OK, maybe I'm braindead from reading some of the comments,,,why are people saying that 04 zx10 is fast? It looks agonizingly slow!!! It can't give a newer zx10 that's locked at 65% throttle opening (why?) A better run than that?!?!... something is amiss! I had an 04zx10, and it had a full arrow exhaust, filter, and mapped PC3...it made 150whp on an honest dyno and ran consistent 9.60's @ 142mph with -1,+5 gearing and I weighed 186lbs... so a newer zx10 at half throttle can walk the older zx10 like this?! 👀😒😅...OK!...I'm going to throw the BS flag on this one! Lol
@@EJR-Performance well, if a bolt-on newer zx10 makes 190-200whp with a pipe and power-commander, I guess so, but I really doubt it will walk an older zx10 at half throttle.
@@EJR-Performance I'm well aware of that...it means a longer time for the bike to reach full power...not taking anything away from your bike, just saying, that zx10 isn't representative of what a good running older zx10 should do...I'm curious to know what gearing is on that bike, because he's shifting like a 2-stroke dirt bike...lol...I had mine geared real deep and didn't shift as early as this dude is, he must have stunt gearing on that thing! Lol
We don't know that for sure. Prove it. How do we know you didn't remap the TPS to trick the computer (ECU) into thinking it was wider open? On some bikes there is not much difference between 1/2 throttle and full throttle. I seems most of the power increase is in the first half of the throttle opening. To be a fair test we would need to know a lot more information about those bikes, including rider weight, bike weight, "gearing", any mods, actual TP... and even then there is some doubt. Downvoted for lack of information. Why not just put those on a dyno and show us the HP when you "lock" the TPS at 50%? Better yet, mark the throttle with some whiteout for closed, 1/2, and WFO so we can see you hold it there at 50% throttle on the dyno.
@@EJR-Performance bs. I’ve raced S1000Rs with my stock 05 and they didn’t pull away like you did and that’s with 100% throttle on a more powerful bike. That gen 1 must’ve been beaten and junk
It was when it came out!! Just bought one with 18k on the odometer. Not a bad bike to own. My 2nd one. Poor man’s bike with some good fast riding! Plz compare the 2016 to the 2026 zx10, right probably will be slow just like everything progresses as they evolve.
Hmm..rwhp on the gen 1 in this video? Other bike is clearly a bit faster. I'll spare u my performance upgrades, my 05 dynoed at 171hp. Noticeably faster, wants to buck me off.
kikofve how do you get 171wheel that’s awesome power for one of those bikes .. probably more then the one in this video , I have an 05 and it’s got full system pc5 and filter. What else do I have to do to get more up top power ? It seems like the tune is just off in the last be of rpms
@@widow10rr31 Install a Race Head Gasket, degree the stock Cams, a good Tune, Ignition Control Module *allows you to advance or retard timing & increase the Rev Lumiter ( a TRE = Timing Retard Eliminator works as well at a fraction of the cost), Full Exhaust, Filter, flash the ECU to increase the Rev Limiter & remove restrictions (not many on the GEN. 1 to began with)
bacchus thompson thanks , I have heard that first gens really need cams and a thin head gasket to make good Power . I’m guessing my stock with basic tune from PC is around 155 whp .. as well as retainers ..haha.
@@widow10rr31 it's true... To really get the power out of it they do. Crazy thing is, just swapping over compatible OEM Kawasaki Parts is all it takes. You really don't need any wild aftermarket items. Exhaust, Filter, and either a Flash Tune or PowerCommander are the only none OEM parts you have to have to make a Gen. 1 pretty competitive with newer bikes
bacchus thompson okay now my bike dose have a full yoshi , filter and power commander 5. I Loaded the base tune from PC for an 05 with with a full system and didn’t noticed a whole lot .. my bike also dose not a o2 sensor in the pipe and assuming auto tune is not active either. The bike dose have block off plates so it’s ready for a real tune. My next question is , is an ignition module a MUST HAVE to make more power or will just getting a custom tune be enough to notice a big difference., and how much more am I gonna get by buying the Ignition box. Thanks for all the help again , Im finding info on first gens are scarce. And all the forms are From 2009 ..
the 2005 was a widowmaker , i remember because i was a little boy who read about the 2005 widowmaker in a motorcycle magazine and forever fell in love with that year zx10r
@@widowmaker1493 actually, he's right, my brother had one back in the day, which I rode. The real scary part of the H2 750, was that the frame, suspension and brakes were terrible. High speed turns the bike would flex and buck. At speed the front end would come off the ground if you hit bumps. It wasn't much better than butting 75 hp on a bicycle frame. The '91 ZX-11 was also called a widow maker and organ donor, first factory bike to break the 180 mph mark. Point, every generation has their "widow Maker" it's nothing new. I 'm sure if you do enough research you'll find bikes in the 1920's with the same nickname. Ah, get over yourself brah!
lol this so called test has way to many faults and flaws its not even funny, way off and can't believe anyone is gullible enough to believe the results stated at end. So unscientific its not even funny but is a laugh. weights of riders, bike setups, test has to be done with stock setups to even vaguely accurate. Rider weights have to be damn close. Nobody should be wowing the findings but rather how gullible you were for believing this mockery.
It was because of the head shake from the lack of a steering damper combined with its light weight anf short length. Hence the 2005 came stock with steering dampers
"Gen 5 with 10% tps starting in 6th gear" fuck yeah I finally beat the newer gen bike 🤣 I thought it was eventually going to go there with how easily he was getting smoked.
WOW what a difference......I still love my Gen1 widow maker. Its like having a oversized two stroke dirt bike lol.....with a crazy power band. And still turns heads 14 years later. 😎
Look at how he is flicking his wrist he thinks he is sautéing some mushrooms 😂
LOL!! 😂😂😂
This is one of the funniest comments I've ever read. I'm laughing as I type this! 😆
@@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST glad to make you laugh 😂
lmao
Shoudlve died on my 05 widowmaker countless of times when i was 17...zx10rs are mind blowingly fast
The fuck you doing with a ZX10R at 17
@@FryChicken I’m 18 with a zx10r 05 with a fully loaded motor fastest one around here
17 started on zx7r now have 1st gen ZX10R
@@FryChicken idk lol
@@FryChicken lmao just got one at 17
Still have a soft spot for the look of this bike and what it did at the time.
I still have the widowmaker. And still a headturner 😊😍
Give that gen 1 a Quick shifter then race again
Rajesh Golder true. he lost a lot of time because of the gear changing. I have a dynojet quick shifter on my zx10r 2006 and it’s faster than a 2018 stock quickshifter
@@terror85 where can I get q quick shifter for my 08 zx10r? Thanks
spouting false info there buddy. that QS aint gonna do much@@terror85
Are you watching the same video as the rest of us? Lol
The fastest 1/4 time and most below it are Gen 1's. How many Gen 5's are in the 7's or even bottom 8's?
Still sticking with this statement?
@@The_slow_zx6r This comment was made 2 years ago dude
That gen 1 is screaming for a quick shifter...!
If he'd blip the throttle, he would be fine.
@@kevinfuller7737 Does no one know about clutchless shifting??? I read comments about "get a quick shifter" constantly.
Quickshifter is faster @@fwh79FOXR6
Ask Rickey Gadson why his turbo 10R is a gen1 having the chance to choose any gen as starting point.
A heavily modded 2nd gen ZX10 is summin serious, I've beaten ZX14's & busas but that power didn't come cheap. It came with a lot of trial & error but a 8.3 slip with a little nitrous shows what can be done. Money can be a equalizer, it's all about how much 2 you wanna spend. Down here in grudge bike country I've seen several 1000's wit 210-215 rear wheel horsepower, but it didn't come cheap. The question you have 2 ask yourself is how much do you wanna spend & how serious are you about your goal.
Yeah I had an 08 zx10 stock and would beat some busas on pulls but yeah they're quick bikes forsure
Modded on 93 octane it was 198 or so to the rear wheel. Didn't have that long of a swing arm & definitely not a rider of either Ricky or Chris's ability. The average decent rider is not jumping on either 1 of those bikes & putting up anywhere close 2 that kinda number. Those are truly professional riders. There skills alone are worth 4-5 tenths of a second. There is a video on UA-cam where Jeremy Teasley rides a BMW & beats a ZX14, then gets on the same ZX14 he had just beaten & beats the BMW. Rider mod is more important than ppl think
@@natelsx my bad I thought I was responding 2 you but it went in with the other messages
@@natelsx me 2. It's gonna come down 2 who gets the better light. Those bikes are so evenly matched you could throw a blanket over them. The Zuke wit the steady midrange & the ZX10 with the bigger top end. They are both good bikes
@@1tuffzx10 So, true brother. I had a 88 zx10 back in the day and I beat some ZX-11's and even XX blackbirds. My advantage was that I was light at 150 lbs. and regularly took that bike to the track to 1/4 runs. I got really good at launching her and would smoke those guys right off the line. If the track or measure street race was a few hundred ft. longer they would have caught me but they didn't, ha, ha, ha! Best night was a street race against a guy that had a relatively new blackbird. I think he spent ~10K on the bike and smoked him on a 10 yr. old bike! We talking standing quarters not this roll on horse hockey.
No not the fastest since it made roughly 160hp on a Dyno BUT the most fun and I would argue the most dangerous liter bike, at least in the wrong hands
In its day it was. Most race track speed traps backed it up.
I agree! But, I would definitely like to see a factory bone stock gen1 and gen4 drag race at a dragstrip!
Rob Ram Most dangerous as no safety features and rapid ? Lol
I resemble that remark lol 🙃
With that being said I think my made 158 if I remember right. But it was wild to ride at a track day. Had to be on your A game!!!
Damn that bike is quick. Interested to see how it does against the H2 after you guys finish it. Another great video man.
They're light that's why they are fast. Everyone way underestimates how important weight is. You can not make up for weight with power, lighter weight will always be superior if taken advantage of.
Sure you can. If there are 4 pounds for every HP (with driver) on the gen 1 and some other bike/rider combo is 40 pounds heavier, it will need about 10 more HP to keep up.
as i understood it (and i have not yet ridden one) the reason she got the rep she did, and the nickname Widowmaker was because of how raw and brutal the power was. i remember when she came out every motorcycle mag wrote that only experienced sportbike riders should try it, because it was difficult to control the hit of power.
Had a 05 Titanium for 8yrs...went thru 4 sets of fork seals and cracked the frame due to its inability to keep the front wheel on the road. God I loved that bike...
@@Mainewoodsgrow buying 1 this weekend.. 💪
this the perfect stretch length..please tell me how long the stretch is or who makes it
Bought my first Zx10 summer 2019, I have owned a bunch of Gsxr 1ks 750s and a few r1's. Idk just something about these 04/05 10s. Now given it's not the fastest bike, but they hold their own for what it is.
I would like to do another tear down and build it back up for Nitrous.. just recently bought a New clutch and few other goodies. Cannot wait for spring so I can ease my way back up to the Track 🤠😉💨
I love my dinosaur it's one bike ill never get rid of
I use to have a 04 called the Hulk. At Willow Springs coming out of turn 9 doing 90mph I grabbed a hand full& was sideways laying down rubber. I tried@ Irwindale& it was a handful at the dragstrip. One late night I did a test run at around 180 before I backed off it still felt like it wanted more. With all that being said that bike moved. Also pro racer Earl Rowloff who use to hold the most wins@ Willow still rides his 05 at the fastest road in the west, Big Willow. Straight facts!!!!!
Oh wow you proved you are faster than a 13 year old bike.... & the widow maker is the most savage zx10r EVER made!! With 0 rider aids & one of the best power to weight ratios ever!! If speed demon still had his first gen runnin like it used to, he would give your brand new $20k+ bike a run for its money.... Just sayin
Widow Maker speed demon would kill anything that bike was stupid , I love my gen 1 , by far the best best zx until 2011
I think u guys don't get that the gen one is a race bike not a drag bike. 400 lbs wet wheel base of a 600 and had around 190 hp and the crank for its day it was a beast. But egr with over 200 hp is going to walk it in a drag race. Put them on a race track with good riders and I'll put my money on the gen one because that's what it's was designed for. These new bikes are crazy fast. In a straight line.
I believe gen 1's had ~150 at the wheel and 170 at the crank.
@@raynic1173 175 crank "claimed" 148-155rwhp avg dyno 376lbs dry. Mine weighed in at 423lbs wet. That was before I put carbon fiber rims on tho.
Its 2021 and I ride gen 1 zx10r with no electronics and rider assist my foot and hands are my rider assist!!! New bikes are designed for people who cant ride! Dont want nothing aiding me but me.
I felt the same way on my 2003 gsxr 1k now I'm on a 2021 zx10r and it's so smooth its deceiving
I ride a gen 1 10r and it stays with all the new bikes no problems sounds the best definitely has the biggest flames turns heads every way i go. I dont need any rider aids ask to swaps bikes on a blast see if they can keep up with you with no electronics to help them out all you get is your mad assa how does that 18 year old bike go so quick. Right fingers are your abs right wrist is your traction control and balls like boulders sure does help.
This video breaks my heart, I knew what to expect but goddamn
Nice bike. How are these at low speed through town? Can u still do some shift without going fast?
The gen1 and gen2 have all the way thru redline powerband. Is on gen3 kawi started focusing on a bit more high rpm powerband and kinds more track oriented machines . if you setup you suspension to a more daily comfy commute ride and drop -1 front,an ecu commander to smooth its nervous low rpm throttle and a solid brand steering damper it becomes an excellent commuter for people who refuse to buy more suited commuters
I don’t even know what some of the fuss is about in these comments, lmao. Some people just get stuck in the past with how fast these older bikes used to be in their day. Either there’s some denial/delusion going on or these cats don’t realize how fast your gen 5 is. Weird. Maybe your gen 1 walks everybody at the local bike night but this gen 5 is a proper go fast machine. Period
So much truth right there
I got a 2018 zx10 a bit ago,and holy shit will it mop the floor with anything just about,I can do great against h2's,bren tuned s1krr's and gen 1 zx10s arent even close to the 5th gens.Keep in mind,I only have a full exhaust on it,and I'm a light rider.
Good videos just subbed from MA
I think they’re all badass but which one would you recommend the Zx6r, gixxer or the r6 ?
03zx6r
I think that a rider who never had a gen 1 is a rider without history...
And in what comes to gen 1, there is a name SpeeDemonZ .... i recently asked him whats up and he is been very busy around track days and rebuilding his bike...
But for the state, as a Rider here is a part of my history wich i am so proud, my Zx10r gen 1 "BrutaLLe":
ua-cam.com/video/VI_raPcxgHY/v-deo.html
Put a quickshifter and an ECU flash on the gen1 and see a good difference
I have a Zx10r 2006
What exhaust is that on the 05 zx10r?
some body has to know this swingarm length....its perfect..
I’m watching the gen 1 zx10r rider and how he shifts an he keeps letting go of the throttle when pressing the clutch in. That bike needs a better rider .
he's not using the clutch at all. wtf you talking about? he needs a quick shifter like the bikes he's racing
I still have my old trusty 1992 Suzuki Gsxr 1100 still my fav bike I want to turbo it
No my 2001 zx12r is the fastest 🤣 awesome video
JUNKYARD GOAT: The mighty ZX12 is a classic beast!
JUNKYARD GOAT i have the same exact bike it’s a rocket out of hell brother and pulls straight through every single gear! Not to be fucked with !!! The GHOST if u know u know 👌🏽
Gen4/5 is def the fastest. Hard to beat that new technology and the hp difference. The thing that the Gen1 has going for it is the weight.. It's certainly light weight.
Yessir this is why I bought then gen 4 in 2022. If you look it up almost all reviews point to the gen 4 being the fastest most race spec built bike they made. In 2011 specifically they were gunning to beat BMW at the world susperbike showdown that's why it got rebuilt
At 1:54 and 2:32, why is he letting off the throttle between shifts? Is this due to not having a quickshifter?
Not the fastest but the most brutal raw extreme smile factor kawa ever made. But it weights like a 600 and with few good add ons if you could let its power on the road and not on the one wheel it can kill modern era supersport 1000cc bikes in a heartbeat
And her looks always amaze till today
What is TPS?
What is tds?
Nasty!!!
Not really a fair comparison the 16 with a tuned quick shifter vs a guy who is closing the throttle or clutching each gear isn’t really a race it’s clear he’s losing all momentum on the shifts. I think the gen 1 with a quick shifter and some head work and cams is a pretty close race. Rider mod on the 05 needed too.
What's done to this particular Gen. 1
exhaust, filter, lowered, extended, geared, weight removed
@@EJR-Performance no EJR Tune & Sauce????
@@bacchusthompson5834 bike was never touched by me. I only shortened it once
@@EJR-Performance do you have the ability to tune a Gen. 1
@@EJR-Performance what gearing? -1+2 if so it never stood a chance
The ZX-10R Is SUPER CRAZY !!! But This Long SWING/or Back End with NOS OR TURBO !!! Is in Swiss Nothalaud ( Shit !!! )
0:25 did you lower the front of this ZX10R? it is great! how about the bumps?
It looks strapped down,that's only for roll racing and drag nights,otherwise you would have to be a complete moron to drive a bike with a fully strapped down front fork setup on the road with bumps and corners.You can lower the bike a bit and look somewhat like that,but you need travel in those front forks.
Whats the rwhp of each bike?
Lol I love this question because regardless of horse ponnies lol how many do you know how to use? I just switched to a gen 2 10r from a 03zx6r and and it takes an artist to effectively put all 155 hoses on the black top you can exceed the traction capabilities of your tires or the surface your riding at any given moment to much throttle you power wheelie or you spin the tire at the end of the day more horses ain’t gonna poot you in first place lol good throttle control and a sac full of nuts may tho
Own one, love it nice fkn Beast!!!!!
But a Cool Video !!!.. 👊✊ 👊✊
It's not that it' fast as much as it feels too nimble. But it is very quick. Too good for the money.
A properly setup Gen one is running equal or better 1/4 mile times than the Gen 5, my swb Gen one is 25hp less than my Gen 4 yet Gen I ran 8.9@149 Gen 4 ran 8.7@153.. Gotta put a good rider on these bikes if your gonna compare
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And ya boy is manually shifting the gen1.. i think it would have been fair if you both were shifting.
50% throttle wasnt enough?
@@EJR-Performance looking forward to seeing the V4R against the bitch!
i believe so too
OK, maybe I'm braindead from reading some of the comments,,,why are people saying that 04 zx10 is fast? It looks agonizingly slow!!! It can't give a newer zx10 that's locked at 65% throttle opening (why?) A better run than that?!?!... something is amiss! I had an 04zx10, and it had a full arrow exhaust, filter, and mapped PC3...it made 150whp on an honest dyno and ran consistent 9.60's @ 142mph with -1,+5 gearing and I weighed 186lbs... so a newer zx10 at half throttle can walk the older zx10 like this?! 👀😒😅...OK!...I'm going to throw the BS flag on this one! Lol
Thats a solid 40-50whp down from a similarly modded gen 5
@@EJR-Performance well, if a bolt-on newer zx10 makes 190-200whp with a pipe and power-commander, I guess so, but I really doubt it will walk an older zx10 at half throttle.
@@sc63sr20det half throttle doesnt mean half hp
@@EJR-Performance I'm well aware of that...it means a longer time for the bike to reach full power...not taking anything away from your bike, just saying, that zx10 isn't representative of what a good running older zx10 should do...I'm curious to know what gearing is on that bike, because he's shifting like a 2-stroke dirt bike...lol...I had mine geared real deep and didn't shift as early as this dude is, he must have stunt gearing on that thing! Lol
@@sc63sr20det gotta be -1+2 so it's not even a fair comparison
This doesn't seem like a fair test. No mention of the "gearing", rider weight, state of tune....
Lol the 2016 ZX10R was at 50% throttle. I dont wanna hear about fair..
We don't know that for sure. Prove it. How do we know you didn't remap the TPS to trick the computer (ECU) into thinking it was wider open? On some bikes there is not much difference between 1/2 throttle and full throttle. I seems most of the power increase is in the first half of the throttle opening. To be a fair test we would need to know a lot more information about those bikes, including rider weight, bike weight, "gearing", any mods, actual TP... and even then there is some doubt. Downvoted for lack of information.
Why not just put those on a dyno and show us the HP when you "lock" the TPS at 50%? Better yet, mark the throttle with some whiteout for closed, 1/2, and WFO so we can see you hold it there at 50% throttle on the dyno.
@@EJR-Performance bs. I’ve raced S1000Rs with my stock 05 and they didn’t pull away like you did and that’s with 100% throttle on a more powerful bike. That gen 1 must’ve been beaten and junk
Too bad that gen1 was all clapped out would have been nice to see a well set up one against you just to see the difference
Guess you didnt see after thanks 😂
Looks to me like those guys didn’t know how to ride
zx10r gen 1 fastest kawasaki my ass!
What's tps
Throttle Position Sensor
Thompson thats what I thought first lol so what does it means when he says 65 % tps
@@mpowerlife1832 Bike was running at only 65% Throttle...
Thompson dam what's done to that bike
@@mpowerlife1832 programmed to run part throttle.
Not really a stock bikes , but nice try
Soo not even a fair comparison.
It was when it came out!! Just bought one with 18k on the odometer. Not a bad bike to own. My 2nd one. Poor man’s bike with some good fast riding! Plz compare the 2016 to the 2026 zx10, right probably will be slow just like everything progresses as they evolve.
Ok we will let you know in about 7 more years how the 2026 model does.
Yup read the context as it’s meant to be sarcasm.. anything 10-15 yrs old will be slower than new age my man..
Damn it's fast
Hmm..rwhp on the gen 1 in this video? Other bike is clearly a bit faster. I'll spare u my performance upgrades, my 05 dynoed at 171hp. Noticeably faster, wants to buck me off.
kikofve how do you get 171wheel that’s awesome power for one of those bikes .. probably more then the one in this video , I have an 05 and it’s got full system pc5 and filter. What else do I have to do to get more up top power ? It seems like the tune is just off in the last be of rpms
@@widow10rr31 Install a Race Head Gasket, degree the stock Cams, a good Tune, Ignition Control Module *allows you to advance or retard timing & increase the Rev Lumiter ( a TRE = Timing Retard Eliminator works as well at a fraction of the cost), Full Exhaust, Filter, flash the ECU to increase the Rev Limiter & remove restrictions (not many on the GEN. 1 to began with)
bacchus thompson thanks , I have heard that first gens really need cams and a thin head gasket to make good
Power . I’m guessing my stock with basic tune from PC is around 155 whp .. as well as retainers ..haha.
@@widow10rr31 it's true... To really get the power out of it they do. Crazy thing is, just swapping over compatible OEM Kawasaki Parts is all it takes. You really don't need any wild aftermarket items. Exhaust, Filter, and either a Flash Tune or PowerCommander are the only none OEM parts you have to have to make a Gen. 1 pretty competitive with newer bikes
bacchus thompson okay now my bike dose have a full yoshi , filter and power commander 5. I Loaded the base tune from PC for an 05 with with a full system and didn’t noticed a whole lot .. my bike also dose not a o2 sensor in the pipe and assuming auto tune is not active either. The bike dose have block off plates so it’s ready for a real tune. My next question is , is an ignition module a MUST HAVE to make more power or will just getting a custom tune be enough to notice a big difference., and how much more am I gonna get by buying the Ignition box. Thanks for all the help again , Im finding info on first gens are scarce. And all the forms are From 2009 ..
You didn't get the right Gen 1 buddy lol
zx10r with fucked up handling:D murcian morrons
Def not
No and never was
A gen 1 is not a widow maker. That nickname was given to the Kawasaki 750cc triple in the early 70's
1972 Kawasaki H2 750 triple.
Not true... Do your research bud
the 2005 was a widowmaker , i remember because i was a little boy who read about the 2005 widowmaker in a motorcycle magazine and forever fell in love with that year zx10r
@@ilovepizza8263 ... and Misfits skulls.
fwh79 lol.
@@widowmaker1493 actually, he's right, my brother had one back in the day, which I rode. The real scary part of the H2 750, was that the frame, suspension and brakes were terrible. High speed turns the bike would flex and buck. At speed the front end would come off the ground if you hit bumps. It wasn't much better than butting 75 hp on a bicycle frame. The '91 ZX-11 was also called a widow maker and organ donor, first factory bike to break the 180 mph mark. Point, every generation has their "widow Maker" it's nothing new. I 'm sure if you do enough research you'll find bikes in the 1920's with the same nickname. Ah, get over yourself brah!
lol this so called test has way to many faults and flaws its not even funny, way off and can't believe anyone is gullible enough to believe the results stated at end. So unscientific its not even funny but is a laugh. weights of riders, bike setups, test has to be done with stock setups to even vaguely accurate. Rider weights have to be damn close. Nobody should be wowing the findings but rather how gullible you were for believing this mockery.
Someone must own a gen 1...
@@EJR-Performance Actually I Don't. I do however do testing.
No, it can not, its a 25HP difference + new electronics
19 to 22 hp difference for the newer generations. However, the first generation is lighter.
Can't even film
Reason why the gen 1 was called the widow make is because of how shitty the brakes were
It was because of the head shake from the lack of a steering damper combined with its light weight anf short length. Hence the 2005 came stock with steering dampers
Yeah no. Mine were fine after many rather quick laps on Phillip Island. It was the head shake in inexperienced hands that give it that nickname.
Exactly right it was the head shake the brakes are actually awesome I still have my gen one
Kawasaki first generation rider SUCKS !!!!
"Gen 5 with 10% tps starting in 6th gear" fuck yeah I finally beat the newer gen bike 🤣 I thought it was eventually going to go there with how easily he was getting smoked.