This video is just what I'm looking for to see this product in action. But just a note that it's recommended to "clump" the clothes in, not wrap them around the agitator.
I just love the indexing performance of this washer. That's why I love Speed Queen. Very straightforward and to the point. The performance reminds me of the Fridgidaire and White Westinghouse washers. I miss my mother's White Westinghouse washer. She had it for over 20 years until she had to get rid of it and my father bought her an LG washer.
This looks to be a better agitation than previous models with the indexing tub. One would think it would be more gentle on fabrics yet provide a thorough clean, similar to the old Westinghouse design. Currently have the 2015 432 model, nearly 3 years later it's still rough on fabrics, as a result I only load a half a tub of clothes, use full tub of water, limit agitation time to about 4 minutes with 20 minute soak, the result is an ok acceptable wash but no better. For the amount of clothes per load it uses to much water.
I have the same machine. It tore a lot of my clothes, but sadly now, it won't agitate properly. So it has lasted for 6 years. I was told to expect 20! Fixing it will probably be half the price of a new one.
This machines contol panel looks just like the old Raytheon/Goodman Amana washing machine. Even the knobs back then are exactly what this machine has on it now. I think Alliance bought Speed Queen from Raytheon years ago and apparently kept this style machine (mechanical's) all those years up to 2017.
The tubs index when the machine is new. The reason why they still index even after all the test cycles is because they use vice-grips on one of the "vanes" of the transmission, to prevent it from indexing. You can see it on one of their videos, that is, if it's still up as of the redesign.
Clue: washing different sizes of clothes helps agitation, so it's best to throw in a few shirts, few shorts and a couple of pants. Washing a load of all pants is asking for residual soap issues and cleaning issues. Same things for sheets... throw in some pillowcases, washcloths and a couple of sheets. You'll see better results.
DADoESofTX All washers now since energy regulations spin slow after the wash and fast after rinse. No matter what design you look at whirlpool/maytags wash plates or agitators GE agitators or wash plates. Even most front loaders that I know now spin slower after the wash and first rinses and only spin fast for the last spin.
pat cola yes that all started when they put in those water saving energy regulations. That’s why the older washers actually rinse a little better since they spin the clothes faster after the wash cycle.
What is the supposed purpose of that? Does it supposedly use less power spinning slower? It seems to me that the spin between the wash and rinse on this one is longer than on past machines.
Scott Onasch The reason for it is government water regulation spinning at a slower speed leaves more water in the garments so the machine could actually save maybe a gallon or so of water that hasn’t been spin out helping it’s energy rating a little better.
I found one locally that looks exactly like this one in the video, but has a load size knob. Ive been trying to find it online everywhere to compare it and see how it works, but this one on the video is the closest ive come.
Kirk thank you for posting - this just doesn't make sense why they cant use this one for residential use! This style is what people will want and not that 2018 adjtub that they wasted money building! I am almost sure the water level can be increased a bit to fill it to the rim. Even though it doesn't have a water level switch witch it should people will still want this washer because its simple durable and flexable. Plus it will really give the clothes a good cleaning!
one theory behind the new design is that since they are discontinuing their residential front loaders, they have all the extra material that they can't just waste. So the motor and the other parts that they would use on a residential front loader is now being used in the same way but in the top loader form. Hence, why the the whole tub agitates back and forth and not the agitator itself.
yea thats what I thought too. they did say they were going to stop manufacturing in march 2018. they probably knew before hand that they were going to have extra front loader parts so they stopped manufacturing top loader parts so they won't have to throw away the front loader parts and just redesigned the top loader
Kirk, is there a variation of this with a water level switch? I saw where someone commented there was, but it seems that model is only available to the Australian market?? Was just curious as I really like this machine.
I just came across one locally with a load size knob, and have been trying to find anything online that looks like it to compare, but cant find anything. This video has my identical model that I found except the one im looking at has the extra knob.
It just means that the tub rotates in one derection while the agitator is rotating back and forth during the wash cycle which means that the inner spin basket is slowly moving around and around that's all
Delivery guy told me to put it on spin cycle, let it get to full speed, then stop the machine. Told me to do this several times to break in the braking mechanism. Mine stopped indexing in about a week.
@@musicnerd72 how expensive!?? I only do laundry twice a month as a single man with no kids and no pets. They probably won't be worth it for me. Also, I think LG has a much lower repair % than Speed Queen. For half the price! Doesn't say much for speed queen.
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy I bought my set in 2012. I think they were around $1600 for the set? I don't remember exactly. Next month they will be 10 years old and they've never had a service call. My last washer was a Frigidaire that lasted four years before the electronics board burned out.
I don't understand why Speed Queen didn't just add the automatic water level system and 1hp induction motor to their old designs and been done with it.
pat cola they have to have the auto fill option. Doesn't mean there can't be a manual slector switch but it has to be able to automatically fill the tub
Kirk did you see the review on CNET for the 2018 Speed Queen 7000 series washingmachine. The machine according to their test results did not do very well. There is a video on the review. When you get a chance please let us know your thoughts.
Like I said in another post, my jaw dropped when I saw the review. Her review does not coincide with the feedback from my customers. In many cases concerning my business, no feedback is good feedback. Most people do not call back and say how much they love their machine. But, if they do not like it, I hear back really quickly. Even with the 2017, the normal cycle is restricted and avoided by the consumer who knows what they are buying. On small loads, the normal cycle on a HE top loader (impeller) probably works better than the normal cycle on the SQ, hence the better results. All other cycles on the SQ uses plenty of water to wash and rinse and do not have all of the restrictions compared to the Normal Eco cycle. The TR7 even has a warm rinse option which is a huge plus. The person also did not know the actual number of cycles capable of the TR7000. The test is not scientific, especially when normal cycles are altered due to restrictions from year to year it seems. Most of the Initial comments are negative towards the review and not the machine. I really liked the videography. It looked top notch. I respect CNET, but they really need to have a better test. Thanks for your post!
+The Pink Diamonds Hi, Pink Diamonds! I think I goofed up here a little lol!...Consumer Reports tested the 2018 TR7 model, not the one featured in this video..This one washes like the old models which had very good ratings. You're right though, it doesn't bode well for them. Hopefully, they will re design in the near future..I really like Speed Queen. Their washers really are second to none.
Looks like a great washer but why no water level switch? Ithis machine will fill up to the top even if you are just washing a few pairs of socks. Very wasteful.
Bruce Solomon Hey Mike here. I’m 47 years old and repaired and sold these machines. I know the business I was selling a store full of these machines and servicing them back in the 80’s. Indexing is weak point in this transmission and has nothing to do with a break in process. It’s a weak outdated drive breaking system and fails routinely and always has, but since I assume you’ve repaired laundromat machines you’d know this is a flaw correct? This prevents cloths from being cleaned properly in this machine. I’m glad for residential use it’s gone. Because it’s a pain in the ass on the commercial side. This is why you only get 3 years parts and no labor on this machine because they even know this at alliance and that hasn’t changed either in 30+ years since Raytheon owned SQ it’s a Raytheon design!!! Thanks for you concern in assuming technology is beyond me here. But I ave the inside scoop with history to back that up.
Channel123, Thanks for your informed response. My top loader Speed Queen is still indexing after 7 months of frequent use. The tub rotates about 2 inches counterclockwise then stops and repeats over and over. Clothes seam to have some turnover. Is it a major repair to have the breaking mechanism fixed or adjusted? Would you leave it alone? Many thanks!
What year is that machine ? I saw some pictures of these with a water level switch. I called Speed Queen and they said that it does have a water level switch. In addition they said that if the unit is used in the home the warranty is 3 parts and labor, 5 years parts and 15 years on the transmission. Does that sound right, not sure the girl I spoke with knew what she was talking about?
2018 model. It only has commercial warranty (3 years parts only) The last digit of the model number is a "1". I'm ordering a "4", now that one, I understand has the water level switch, if so then people can stop panicking about the 2017 models. I will find out in about 3-4 weeks when it arrives.
I wouldn't buy this machine, as it has no water level switch, so it would waste water when doing a small load of clothing. I also don't like the but indexing the way it is, as it prevents the laundry from turning over in the tub. There is no turnover in this machine at all. I can't imagine what the cycle is like on the normal cycle which you should have used, what is special about jeans. Poor machine. I will keep my old 40 year old Kenmore, thank god its still works with no issues.
This video is just what I'm looking for to see this product in action. But just a note that it's recommended to "clump" the clothes in, not wrap them around the agitator.
Never, mix small item and various sizes to improve agitation.
I just love the indexing performance of this washer. That's why I love Speed Queen. Very straightforward and to the point. The performance reminds me of the Fridgidaire and White Westinghouse washers. I miss my mother's White Westinghouse washer. She had it for over 20 years until she had to get rid of it and my father bought her an LG washer.
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I like the old school styling of this model! Like it even better than the clunky looking knobs of the 432.
This looks to be a better agitation than previous models with the indexing tub. One would think it would be more gentle on fabrics yet provide a thorough clean, similar to the old Westinghouse design. Currently have the 2015 432 model, nearly 3 years later it's still rough on fabrics, as a result I only load a half a tub of clothes, use full tub of water, limit agitation time to about 4 minutes with 20 minute soak, the result is an ok acceptable wash but no better. For the amount of clothes per load it uses to much water.
I have the same machine. It tore a lot of my clothes, but sadly now, it won't agitate properly. So it has lasted for 6 years. I was told to expect 20! Fixing it will probably be half the price of a new one.
This machines contol panel looks just like the old Raytheon/Goodman Amana washing machine. Even the knobs back then are exactly what this machine has on it now. I think Alliance bought Speed Queen from Raytheon years ago and apparently kept this style machine (mechanical's) all those years up to 2017.
At one point, I’m pretty sure Speed Queen owned Amana before Whirlpool bought it. So the old Raytheon Amanas were really good.
it looks like the controls on my 2019 speed queen dryer
The tubs index when the machine is new. The reason why they still index even after all the test cycles is because they use vice-grips on one of the "vanes" of the transmission, to prevent it from indexing. You can see it on one of their videos, that is, if it's still up as of the redesign.
transmission are back! :)
I am not a expert at laundry so I need to know. Is a classic clean machine?
Clue: washing different sizes of clothes helps agitation, so it's best to throw in a few shirts, few shorts and a couple of pants. Washing a load of all pants is asking for residual soap issues and cleaning issues. Same things for sheets... throw in some pillowcases, washcloths and a couple of sheets. You'll see better results.
Bought this yesterday! Not too many left folks, so snag one while you can!
Where did you buy from, how much was it. What year model is it?
How much????
Low-speed first spin, which is suitable for Perm Press but not so much for heavy items.
DADoESofTX All washers now since energy regulations spin slow after the wash and fast after rinse. No matter what design you look at whirlpool/maytags wash plates or agitators GE agitators or wash plates. Even most front loaders that I know now spin slower after the wash and first rinses and only spin fast for the last spin.
pat cola yes that all started when they put in those water saving energy regulations. That’s why the older washers actually rinse a little better since they spin the clothes faster after the wash cycle.
What is the supposed purpose of that? Does it supposedly use less power spinning slower? It seems to me that the spin between the wash and rinse on this one is longer than on past machines.
Honestly it does pretty well, I especially love the 50-second spray rinse on the 8 and 9 series.
Scott Onasch The reason for it is government water regulation spinning at a slower speed leaves more water in the garments so the machine could actually save maybe a gallon or so of water that hasn’t been spin out helping it’s energy rating a little better.
I love waking up to these videos!
How did you get it to wash with lid open?
I have a feeling that in a short time the real commercial washers will be the only washers that Speed Queen sells.
It wouldn't be the first time they've done that.
Is there a Speed Queen washer model similar to this machine in the video that has a water level switch and speed control switch?
I'm keeping my eyes open. Thanks for your comment. I'm sure something will come up.... I'm looking into how hard it will be to modify this one.
I found one locally that looks exactly like this one in the video, but has a load size knob. Ive been trying to find it online everywhere to compare it and see how it works, but this one on the video is the closest ive come.
Ok shame on them for no 10 year warranty or 3 year? Why not and which is better? The TC 5000 or this one?
This agitator is indexing counter clockwise so it does make a complete rotation.
Kirk thank you for posting - this just doesn't make sense why they cant use this one for residential use! This style is what people will want and not that 2018 adjtub that they wasted money building! I am almost sure the water level can be increased a bit to fill it to the rim. Even though it doesn't have a water level switch witch it should people will still want this washer because its simple durable and flexable. Plus it will really give the clothes a good cleaning!
one theory behind the new design is that since they are discontinuing their residential front loaders, they have all the extra material that they can't just waste. So the motor and the other parts that they would use on a residential front loader is now being used in the same way but in the top loader form. Hence, why the the whole tub agitates back and forth and not the agitator itself.
yea thats what I thought too. they did say they were going to stop manufacturing in march 2018. they probably knew before hand that they were going to have extra front loader parts so they stopped manufacturing top loader parts so they won't have to throw away the front loader parts and just redesigned the top loader
I wonder if there is a way to use the old controls on these to add a water level sensor and selector
Kirk, is there a variation of this with a water level switch? I saw where someone commented there was, but it seems that model is only available to the Australian market?? Was just curious as I really like this machine.
I just came across one locally with a load size knob, and have been trying to find anything online that looks like it to compare, but cant find anything. This video has my identical model that I found except the one im looking at has the extra knob.
These are still in production? Much better than the new models!
Why is the agitation slowed down slightly?
The tub brake is not functional at all, the turnover would improve if this was fixed.
can someone explain what 'indexing' is? Thank you. I am thinking of buying this machine or the new TC5000.
It just means that the tub rotates in one derection while the agitator is rotating back and forth during the wash cycle which means that the inner spin basket is slowly moving around and around that's all
Better than a TR Speed Queen.
I live in Houston TX and I want to know where I can go and buy 1 of these?
google tv2000wn and Houston. I found a few places. There are also a couple well known online appliance sites that have them.
This product code could be a TV2000WN.
Kirk did you ever find out why this machine doesn't tub index like others?
Jane Doe It will index with a load, my bad.
The tub index on this washer is horrific! It took mine a good 7-8 months before it stopped indexing.
Delivery guy told me to put it on spin cycle, let it get to full speed, then stop the machine. Told me to do this several times to break in the braking mechanism. Mine stopped indexing in about a week.
@@musicnerd72 geez you pay all that money and you still have to do something like that!! How much were these?
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy expensive, but they work.
@@musicnerd72 how expensive!?? I only do laundry twice a month as a single man with no kids and no pets. They probably won't be worth it for me.
Also, I think LG has a much lower repair % than Speed Queen. For half the price! Doesn't say much for speed queen.
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy I bought my set in 2012. I think they were around $1600 for the set? I don't remember exactly. Next month they will be 10 years old and they've never had a service call. My last washer was a Frigidaire that lasted four years before the electronics board burned out.
I don't understand why Speed Queen didn't just add the automatic water level system and 1hp induction motor to their old designs and been done with it.
Bruce Solomon I’d answer you question but the premise of yours is based is on not understanding how things really work here!!
I think that I do but perhaps my engineering degree means nothing. Do you have a Master's Degree Mike?
It's a vacuum not a space shuttle!
it's new regulation, now it's all automatic water level
Mike's Channel i thought it had to deal with government regulations
pat cola they have to have the auto fill option. Doesn't mean there can't be a manual slector switch but it has to be able to automatically fill the tub
Now that I remember mine was a full gray panel the one from 2008 not like this I was mistaken
Kirk did you see the review on CNET for the 2018 Speed Queen 7000 series washingmachine. The machine according to their test results did not do very well. There is a video on the review. When you get a chance please let us know your thoughts.
Like I said in another post, my jaw dropped when I saw the review. Her review does not coincide with the feedback from my customers. In many cases concerning my business, no feedback is good feedback. Most people do not call back and say how much they love their machine. But, if they do not like it, I hear back really quickly. Even with the 2017, the normal cycle is restricted and avoided by the consumer who knows what they are buying. On small loads, the normal cycle on a HE top loader (impeller) probably works better than the normal cycle on the SQ, hence the better results. All other cycles on the SQ uses plenty of water to wash and rinse and do not have all of the restrictions compared to the Normal Eco cycle. The TR7 even has a warm rinse option which is a huge plus. The person also did not know the actual number of cycles capable of the TR7000. The test is not scientific, especially when normal cycles are altered due to restrictions from year to year it seems. Most of the Initial comments are negative towards the review and not the machine. I really liked the videography. It looked top notch. I respect CNET, but they really need to have a better test. Thanks for your post!
Consumer Reports just tested this machine and their assessment pretty much mirrors CNET's evaluation..
Mike Bennett , That doesnt bode well for Speed Queen. Yikes!
+The Pink Diamonds Hi, Pink Diamonds!
I think I goofed up here a little lol!...Consumer Reports tested the 2018 TR7 model, not the one featured in this video..This one washes like the old models which had very good ratings. You're right though, it doesn't bode well for them. Hopefully, they will re design in the near future..I really like Speed Queen. Their washers really are second to none.
online they are showing a load level switch for this model??
Ante Pavelić A couple of the online sellers are using the 2017 photo.
EagleSprout you're right
Looks like a great washer but why no water level switch? Ithis machine will fill up to the top even if you are just washing a few pairs of socks. Very wasteful.
It's a non-residential unit, mostly businesses buy them.
Speed junk. Great vid Kirk.
I find that indexing somewhat troubling as this is a new machine.
Speed Queen top loaders start out indexing for about a month then lock in and increase rollover. Maybe you just don't understand the technology Mike.
Bruce Solomon your right Bruce. Even after break-in period they may still index under a very heavy load. Mine does and I got mine in 2016.
Yep, these index when new, once wore in they stop indexing. (until they wear back out, 20+years from now.)
Bruce Solomon Hey Mike here. I’m 47 years old and repaired and sold these machines. I know the business I was selling a store full of these machines and servicing them back in the 80’s. Indexing is weak point in this transmission and has nothing to do with a break in process. It’s a weak outdated drive breaking system and fails routinely and always has, but since I assume you’ve repaired laundromat machines you’d know this is a flaw correct? This prevents cloths from being cleaned properly in this machine. I’m glad for residential use it’s gone. Because it’s a pain in the ass on the commercial side. This is why you only get 3 years parts and no labor on this machine because they even know this at alliance and that hasn’t changed either in 30+ years since Raytheon owned SQ it’s a Raytheon design!!! Thanks for you concern in assuming technology is beyond me here. But I ave the inside scoop with history to back that up.
Channel123, Thanks for your informed response. My top loader Speed Queen is still indexing after 7 months of frequent use. The tub rotates about 2 inches counterclockwise then stops and repeats over and over. Clothes seam to have some turnover. Is it a major repair to have the breaking mechanism fixed or adjusted? Would you leave it alone? Many thanks!
What year is that machine ? I saw some pictures of these with a water level switch. I called Speed Queen and they said that it does have a water level switch. In addition they said that if the unit is used in the home the warranty is 3 parts and labor, 5 years parts and 15 years on the transmission. Does that sound right, not sure the girl I spoke with knew what she was talking about?
2018 model. It only has commercial warranty (3 years parts only) The last digit of the model number is a "1". I'm ordering a "4", now that one, I understand has the water level switch, if so then people can stop panicking about the 2017 models. I will find out in about 3-4 weeks when it arrives.
Thanks For the info I ordered one online with a 1 as the last digit, I guess the 4 is what I really need. Maybe I can change it. Thanks for the reply
Kirk, what is the exact model number you ordered? Thanks!
@@kirkrivas8172 Did it have the water level switch? What is the model #? Thanks!
That's only 180* of agitation.
That's correct. Their advertising of 210 was totally false. Kirk may not have noticed though, and it won't be accurate if the tub still indexes.
Sharkie626 The agitator is indexing as well. Counter clockwise
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I wouldn't buy this machine, as it has no water level switch, so it would waste water when doing a small load of clothing. I also don't like the but indexing the way it is, as it prevents the laundry from turning over in the tub. There is no turnover in this machine at all. I can't imagine what the cycle is like on the normal cycle which you should have used, what is special about jeans. Poor machine. I will keep my old 40 year old Kenmore, thank god its still works with no issues.
I think 4 jeans would have turned over with more frequency. Congrats on the old Kenmore. Thanks for your comment.