I think it was this trade, the process, and the warriors team that made people start to become conscious of salary cap, asset management, and timing. People were boggled by how the warriors assembled so much talent, got Curry on an insane bargain, AND signed KD in 2016. It was an incredible coincidence that the sixers were right in middle of the exact process that could get you a dynasty right at the same time and the nets were feeling the consequences of the trade. People saw the ideal result (Warriors), the ideal process (Sixers), and what to avoid (Nets) all unfolding at once.
For anyone wondering how the Stepian Rule didn’t prevent this and save the Nets from destroying their draft pick situation: They used the pick swap loophole with their 2017 and 2015 picks in order to not violate it since they technically didn’t trade away back to back first round picks that way. Moral of the story is if Billy King wants to ruin a franchise he’ll always find a way.
I just trade bad picks (team is contender for multiple year for an example), good ones I always keep it and even if I won't draft, I trade for a more valuable pick (or picks) next year. It's a very easy system to cheat on tho. You can be the suns on off season and assemble a monster, before the season begins you can trade your own pick (4 stars) for a lot of picks, even if you are a good team after signing everybody.
@@justinebautista1383 you right I was just speaking hypothetically It is possible Not likely at all but it's possible It wouldn't be a miracle never saw that coming
I don't know man... it worked both ways, Celtics will not win a chip and the Nets... well, maybe with that 2 very amazing divas, but both teams are kinda of stuck in "I contend but not that much" territory. In 2017 this trade was looking veeeeeeery bad, but not now.
How bad could that James Young pick possibly be? I mean - /rechecks 2014 draft /looks for players picked after Young /sees Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Clint Capela, Kyle Anderson, Joe Harris, Spencer Dinwiddie, Jerami Grant, Nikola Jokic, Dwight Powell, Jordan Clarkson um, okay. I get it now. Well, I still think about the Spurs total whiff in 1985. With the #14 pick, the Spurs picked someone named Alfredrick Hughes. No one else picked in the first round played fewer seasons than Hughes' single season. Only fellow bust Kenny Green, PICKED ONE SPOT AHEAD OF KARL MALONE, played fewer games and minutes than Hughes. (Kenny Green was picked #12, Malone #13, Hughes #14 FWIW) In 1985, there were seven rounds in the draft, and of the 162 players selected, 66 played in the NBA. Almost all of the players picked after Hughes were better than he was, but here are the most notable ones: Rd 1: Joe Dumars, AC Green, Terry Porter Rd 2: Manute Bol, Tyrone Corbin, Hot Rod Williams, Gerald Wilkins Rd 3: Sam Mitchell, Michael Adams, Mike Brown Rd 4: John Battle, Spud Webb Rd 7: Mario Elie Could have had four All-Stars (one who made the HOF) or even a Slam Dunk Contest champion. Last word on Alfredrick Hughes: If you sort the 66 players from that draft by Win Shares, you find that 13 of them were worth negative wins for their careers. The three worst, in a tie for -0.5 are Hughes, Fred Cofield, and Georgi Glouchkov. Cofield was picked in the 4th round, Glouchkov the 7th round. Press F for facepalm
Idk if it’s me being biased as a Nets fan or not but I feel like the trade doesn’t mean as much if the Celts don’t win a ‘ship. They did well with getting the potential franchise corner pieces with Tatum and Brown but I don’t think Billy King makes the deal at all if Prokhorov doesn’t promise a title within 5 years when he took over. It also didn’t help that they went from Rod Thorn (GM of the two Finals teams) to King. Those 5 years of being bad with no high draft pick were hell but I’m fine with where the team is at now.
Aaron Brown even if the Celtics don’t win a chip with brown and Tatum which is pretty unlikely it was still one of the greatest trades ever. Tatum and brown are going to be the foundation of the Celtics for the next decade or so.
Buddy Fats 100% it’s one of the best trades made. Ainge has the rep of being a good GM for pulling shit off like that. I’m just saying at the end of the day, the name of the game is winning rings and if you’re gonna get two top-5 picks for basically nothing and have them develop quickly, you better get at least one. Especially considering it’s the Celtics and “Titletown”. But for now they have those two under team control for the time being along with the other pieces they’ve gathered and that’s as good as it can get if you’re a fan.
What’s funny is that that highly coveted 2018 Nets pick was the pick that the Celtics gave Cleveland for Kyrie... and now Kyrie is on the Nets... it’s also crazy how the Nets traded Brook Lopez for Russell, then Russell for KD.
My theory on why stars don’t make great coaches and average nba players make better coaches, is stars don’t need to rely on coaches for success AS MUCH AS average players do. That’s just my two bit high af theory
I still have nightmares about this situation. I am going to have nightmares until day either Jayson Tatum or Jaylen brown retire, and that can be a long time.
The modern perception of this deal definitely isn’t helped by the fact that Ainge made great picks at No. 3. It was unclear who was the 3rd best player in Browns draft and he chose the best realistic option available. Then, with Tatum, he chose to ignore 2 more highly touted prospects and go with his pick who is now a star
Jason Kidd deserves another opportunity as a coach. His problem in Milwaukee was that he innovated too much; his innovation on offense paid off, his innovation on defense bit him in the rump. Coaches learn too, and he has a passion for learning. I'd expect him to do better with another opportunity.
@HardikG121 Lol for sure that's why I said good chance. Don't worry I'm not one of those people who like to guarantee a championship for whatever team before the season even starts
I remember thinking the Nets definitely won the trade, Garnett, Pierce, Terry for Humphries and Wallace and a bunch of picks we all assumed would be in the mid 20s. No one predicted Williams and Johnson falling off so suddenly. Which really depreciated the value of this trade for the Nets.
The thing with D will is that he was a really bulky PG. he used his thick frame to bully his way way around the paint. So when he aged a little bit his ankles just died and his weight became a huge detriment
Gotta remember the Celtics got all those pics because they matched the salaries of Pierce, Garnett, and Terry with awful contracts in return. Most notably Gerald Wallace whose contract was considered the worst in the league at the time.
I still to this day don’t understand how a gm can be so idiotic and irresponsible to trade 4 firsts for players that was about to retire. I understand the vision of having championship experienced players there and in the locker room to help dwill iso joe and Lopez but that team was never winning a title unless Paul pierce and kg went back to their primes
What I don't understand is like if EVERYTHING works out, they maybe win ONE, MAYBE, but their future will in trouble, that 1 chip wouldn't be enough to stabilish the Nets as the NY top dog either way. It was a dumb move and worked out very well a fell years later, thanks to change of ownership and management.
A much appreciated video. Billy King gets far too much blame for executing the whims of his team owner. No one truly could have imagined Deron Williams falling off the cliff. If they had just been patient I think things look drastically different. Pierce and KG certainly weren’t exactly galvanizing the team for the better versus acting like they were “showing them how it’s done”.
I think it was more of an age thing for you. I remember thinking it was a dumb trade at the time, but I was 24 and already a pretty serious basketball fan
I'm honestly wondering whether this will happen to the Clippers and Lakers in a few years. I mean, AD is a free agent in 2021, and Kawhi, Pg, and Lebron are all free agents in 2022. If things go wrong, it could be really bad for both those franchises.
I think the Nets management must have expected much more free agency as well. If they could just look like a good team and make the playoffs behind their young star, Brook Lopez, then they could attract a free agent to have KG, Paul Pierce, and Johnson off the bench with a quality PG in Williams, either a starter or off the bench. And this is the year rappers started being team sponsors.
I kinda feel clippers are going with the same dumb tactic, and im not talking about the PG trade for Shai cause it was obviously a Kawhi bait but okc took all picks with Shai and then that Morris trade happened... Lost another young developing talent and more picks for inconsistend player. If they're not gonna win chip any time soon it wil be a blast for them.
I think it was Isiah Thomas and that young squad that convinced Horford and Gordon to sign because Tatum wasn't drafted yet and Brown wasn't that big his first year. If anything you could argue Kemba signed because of Tatum and Brown
I’m glad this trade happened as a Nets fan, well not really glad, but I’m happy we got Marks in the front office over the delusional group we had at the time.
I think the celtics won this trade by a landslide, and then got really unlucky the following years. Now, i kinda think the Nets are better than the celtics. All depends on kd injury.
@@buddyfats4768 they've been in the playoff hunt longer than the Knicks, and we're a game away from the 2019 WCF in their first run since 2013 with Lawson, Gallo, and Iggy
@@buddyfats4768 fan of the nuggets but not a die-hard, they're in a much better situation than the Knicks it's not even close, they're a piece away from contention
@@bgtheone2903 you are missing the point of what im saying, it doesnt matter what position they are in now, he said the melo trade was a finesse but non of the pieces from the melo trade are still there and they didnt win anything with gallo they had a few good years but i would hardly call that trade a finesse. the reason they are good now was because of jokic which had nothing to do with the knicks trade.
@@boodaviking2736 Yea coming from a Raptors fan. I really like Tatum he won me over. Hes a superstar already with the potential of being a top 5 players. The celtics core is great. I just think they need to improve their center position and their bench. But they are right there.
Except 'technically' they're not at all? Literally not a single person in Boston was sorry to see that diva go lol plus they replaced him with a point guard who's 90% as good as him and 1000x better fit for the team. You Brooklyn fans need to prepare for disappointment when you finally realize you ain't winning shit with a snake and a moron
Cameron Moseley first off calm down cause I’m not a nets fan and secondly if you ask anyone who has a better chance of winning a championship it’s the nets I’m sorry I hit a nerve cause your team disappointed last year😭😭
I think it was this trade, the process, and the warriors team that made people start to become conscious of salary cap, asset management, and timing. People were boggled by how the warriors assembled so much talent, got Curry on an insane bargain, AND signed KD in 2016. It was an incredible coincidence that the sixers were right in middle of the exact process that could get you a dynasty right at the same time and the nets were feeling the consequences of the trade. People saw the ideal result (Warriors), the ideal process (Sixers), and what to avoid (Nets) all unfolding at once.
David Wang this is a really good point man, never really saw it that way
Tanking for multiple seasons don’t work anymore
The sixers are not and have never been the ideal process
Actually the route the nets have taken the last 3 seasons seems more ideal than what happened for the sixers to be honest
Warriors situation was much more ideal as well
For anyone wondering how the Stepian Rule didn’t prevent this and save the Nets from destroying their draft pick situation: They used the pick swap loophole with their 2017 and 2015 picks in order to not violate it since they technically didn’t trade away back to back first round picks that way. Moral of the story is if Billy King wants to ruin a franchise he’ll always find a way.
This trade is the reason I never trade any picks in 2k lol
I just trade bad picks (team is contender for multiple year for an example), good ones I always keep it and even if I won't draft, I trade for a more valuable pick (or picks) next year. It's a very easy system to cheat on tho. You can be the suns on off season and assemble a monster, before the season begins you can trade your own pick (4 stars) for a lot of picks, even if you are a good team after signing everybody.
I really thought the Nets won that trade back then.....I was still in HS at that point and was still growing as a basketball fan🤦🏿♂️😂
sports media thought that the nets won that trade don't worry apparently everybody was stupid back then
I mean despite the trade the nets may actually still end up winning a ring before Boston
@@tpsam That's still questionable. We don't know how well Durant will play and if Irving will manage to stay away from the infirmary
@@tpsam Durant and Kyrie on the same team? Nahh man not gonna work
@@justinebautista1383 you right
I was just speaking hypothetically
It is possible
Not likely at all but it's possible
It wouldn't be a miracle never saw that coming
Joe Johnson was icy as hell vs the Raptors back in 14
Jackson Anderson He had a good series against the Heat too
Remember when Bill Simmons said Pierce and KG got moved for meaningless picks 😂
God, that's hilarious. Well, you can't spell Bill Simmons without BS
well its pretty easy to say that now with hindsight on your side lol
@@durantulaftw that's fair enough, especially since Simmons was a lifelong Celts fan.
Can't ever speak Bill Simmons without BS
And then the league started valuing first picks
Tell that to the lakers
Just looked on bleacher report and in 2013 they graded Boston B and nets A for this deal 🤣🤣
One of their lowlights that year was the Jason Kidd drink incident against the Lakers
This trade makes me depressed
Brooklyn fan?
Lmao
SpaceRace144 yep
You guys would be set if the nets kept d lo over kyrie.
I don't know man... it worked both ways, Celtics will not win a chip and the Nets... well, maybe with that 2 very amazing divas, but both teams are kinda of stuck in "I contend but not that much" territory.
In 2017 this trade was looking veeeeeeery bad, but not now.
Never forget that Danny used one of those picks to draft James Young. Still hurts to this day
But, Brown and Tatum paid off
How bad could that James Young pick possibly be? I mean -
/rechecks 2014 draft
/looks for players picked after Young
/sees Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Clint Capela, Kyle Anderson, Joe Harris, Spencer Dinwiddie, Jerami Grant, Nikola Jokic, Dwight Powell, Jordan Clarkson
um, okay. I get it now. Well, I still think about the Spurs total whiff in 1985. With the #14 pick, the Spurs picked someone named Alfredrick Hughes. No one else picked in the first round played fewer seasons than Hughes' single season. Only fellow bust Kenny Green, PICKED ONE SPOT AHEAD OF KARL MALONE, played fewer games and minutes than Hughes. (Kenny Green was picked #12, Malone #13, Hughes #14 FWIW) In 1985, there were seven rounds in the draft, and of the 162 players selected, 66 played in the NBA.
Almost all of the players picked after Hughes were better than he was, but here are the most notable ones:
Rd 1: Joe Dumars, AC Green, Terry Porter
Rd 2: Manute Bol, Tyrone Corbin, Hot Rod Williams, Gerald Wilkins
Rd 3: Sam Mitchell, Michael Adams, Mike Brown
Rd 4: John Battle, Spud Webb
Rd 7: Mario Elie
Could have had four All-Stars (one who made the HOF) or even a Slam Dunk Contest champion.
Last word on Alfredrick Hughes: If you sort the 66 players from that draft by Win Shares, you find that 13 of them were worth negative wins for their careers. The three worst, in a tie for -0.5 are Hughes, Fred Cofield, and Georgi Glouchkov. Cofield was picked in the 4th round, Glouchkov the 7th round. Press F for facepalm
Idk if it’s me being biased as a Nets fan or not but I feel like the trade doesn’t mean as much if the Celts don’t win a ‘ship. They did well with getting the potential franchise corner pieces with Tatum and Brown but I don’t think Billy King makes the deal at all if Prokhorov doesn’t promise a title within 5 years when he took over. It also didn’t help that they went from Rod Thorn (GM of the two Finals teams) to King. Those 5 years of being bad with no high draft pick were hell but I’m fine with where the team is at now.
Aaron Brown even if the Celtics don’t win a chip with brown and Tatum which is pretty unlikely it was still one of the greatest trades ever. Tatum and brown are going to be the foundation of the Celtics for the next decade or so.
Buddy Fats 100% it’s one of the best trades made. Ainge has the rep of being a good GM for pulling shit off like that. I’m just saying at the end of the day, the name of the game is winning rings and if you’re gonna get two top-5 picks for basically nothing and have them develop quickly, you better get at least one. Especially considering it’s the Celtics and “Titletown”. But for now they have those two under team control for the time being along with the other pieces they’ve gathered and that’s as good as it can get if you’re a fan.
This trade made first round picks more valuable lmao
What’s funny is that that highly coveted 2018 Nets pick was the pick that the Celtics gave Cleveland for Kyrie... and now Kyrie is on the Nets... it’s also crazy how the Nets traded Brook Lopez for Russell, then Russell for KD.
My theory on why stars don’t make great coaches and average nba players make better coaches, is stars don’t need to rely on coaches for success AS MUCH AS average players do. That’s just my two bit high af theory
I still have nightmares about this situation. I am going to have nightmares until day either Jayson Tatum or Jaylen brown retire, and that can be a long time.
Both of them could've been on the Nets
The modern perception of this deal definitely isn’t helped by the fact that Ainge made great picks at No. 3. It was unclear who was the 3rd best player in Browns draft and he chose the best realistic option available. Then, with Tatum, he chose to ignore 2 more highly touted prospects and go with his pick who is now a star
Jason Kidd deserves another opportunity as a coach. His problem in Milwaukee was that he innovated too much; his innovation on offense paid off, his innovation on defense bit him in the rump. Coaches learn too, and he has a passion for learning. I'd expect him to do better with another opportunity.
Eh they get Kyrie and KD in this timeline so I can live with it
Lol and now there's a good chance the Nets can actually win a championship before the Celtics
Jayden Perez The current Nets's locker room or DLo wish they could say that
@HardikG121 Lol for sure that's why I said good chance. Don't worry I'm not one of those people who like to guarantee a championship for whatever team before the season even starts
@James Robert this has aged very, very badly homie 😂😂🤣
@James Robert and the nets are the title favourites, id call that a good outcome
I remember thinking the Nets definitely won the trade, Garnett, Pierce, Terry for Humphries and Wallace and a bunch of picks we all assumed would be in the mid 20s. No one predicted Williams and Johnson falling off so suddenly. Which really depreciated the value of this trade for the Nets.
The thing with D will is that he was a really bulky PG. he used his thick frame to bully his way way around the paint. So when he aged a little bit his ankles just died and his weight became a huge detriment
Here after the Celtics won a ship because of this trade
Gotta remember the Celtics got all those pics because they matched the salaries of Pierce, Garnett, and Terry with awful contracts in return. Most notably Gerald Wallace whose contract was considered the worst in the league at the time.
I still to this day don’t understand how a gm can be so idiotic and irresponsible to trade 4 firsts for players that was about to retire. I understand the vision of having championship experienced players there and in the locker room to help dwill iso joe and Lopez but that team was never winning a title unless Paul pierce and kg went back to their primes
You really wanted me to have nightmares tonight
Joe Johnson was lowkey deadly on those nets teams...
His contract was deadly
What I don't understand is like if EVERYTHING works out, they maybe win ONE, MAYBE, but their future will in trouble, that 1 chip wouldn't be enough to stabilish the Nets as the NY top dog either way. It was a dumb move and worked out very well a fell years later, thanks to change of ownership and management.
Jason kid not being a good coach is a surprise 😂
I remember Bill Simmons was on TV when the street happened and he said he hated it as a Celtics fan🤷♂️
Trade* not street wtf
Usual BS
Never forget.
This trade should have caused an amendment to the Stepien Rule.
*......Nope.*
**Leaves**
Lol Jason Terry being "whatever"
A much appreciated video. Billy King gets far too much blame for executing the whims of his team owner.
No one truly could have imagined Deron Williams falling off the cliff. If they had just been patient I think things look drastically different. Pierce and KG certainly weren’t exactly galvanizing the team for the better versus acting like they were “showing them how it’s done”.
But four first round picks
And now the Nets got KD, Harden and Kyrie and Kyrie
They gave up 3 all-star caliber players (the Jays and Collin Sexton) 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Billy King thought he was doing a rebuild challenge
I call game - Paul Pierce
I think it was more of an age thing for you. I remember thinking it was a dumb trade at the time, but I was 24 and already a pretty serious basketball fan
I'm honestly wondering whether this will happen to the Clippers and Lakers in a few years. I mean, AD is a free agent in 2021, and Kawhi, Pg, and Lebron are all free agents in 2022. If things go wrong, it could be really bad for both those franchises.
As an OKC fan I damn hope so
Considering 1 of those teams will probably win the title it’s worth it in their mind
I think the Nets management must have expected much more free agency as well. If they could just look like a good team and make the playoffs behind their young star, Brook Lopez, then they could attract a free agent to have KG, Paul Pierce, and Johnson off the bench with a quality PG in Williams, either a starter or off the bench. And this is the year rappers started being team sponsors.
Joe Johnson was pretty good in the playoffs that year
I just crashed my dad's car
Living life to the fullest
Oof
U gud?
Nice bro
I feel that, worst shit bro, hope you're all good
I kinda feel clippers are going with the same dumb tactic, and im not talking about the PG trade for Shai cause it was obviously a Kawhi bait but okc took all picks with Shai and then that Morris trade happened... Lost another young developing talent and more picks for inconsistend player. If they're not gonna win chip any time soon it wil be a blast for them.
i remember when it happened all my friends made fun of me cuz everyone thought it was a terrible deal for the celtics at the time
And the nets basically do the same thing again 8 years later..dump their picks and bench for one ball hog player: James harden.
it is somehow even dumber than the Celtics trade. New Rule. Trade with the Nets
Lol not the same at all
Only casual believe that. Harden is in his prime and will win a title next season
You don’t really need draft picks for a successful rebuild just good player development look at the raptors and the nets
I think it was Isiah Thomas and that young squad that convinced Horford and Gordon to sign because Tatum wasn't drafted yet and Brown wasn't that big his first year. If anything you could argue Kemba signed because of Tatum and Brown
TL;DR - Going all in on an inside straight is a very bad idea
Funky is 25/26 confirmed.
Good Maths.
OMG FUNKY'S 25. HE A REAL PERSON GUYS I PROMISE
He's 27. The trade happened 7 years ago and he was 20 when it happened.
If I was them I would've just traded for kg cause his attitude fits brooklyn.
billy king really is the greatest gm of all time
I’m glad this trade happened as a Nets fan, well not really glad, but I’m happy we got Marks in the front office over the delusional group we had at the time.
This sounds like something garpax would have done... Good thing that's over
Could the Paul George tarde end the same way? 🤔🤔
I’m retrospect- this trade wasn’t THAT bad
funky age reveal :o
I love the deep lore
Remember Linsanity, the biggest what if in Knicks history in my opinion?
who'd you rather have KD and Kyrie or Tatum and Brown?
Didn’t brook Lopez play like 5 games that year ?
Yeah he got hurt.
He only played in 17 games.
So who were the players Celtics got for that draft?
rod axel jaylen brown Tatum kyrie was used
kris humphries marshon brooks is all i remember
Jaylen brown, James Young, Tatum and traded a pick that got them Kyrie. The pick that got them Kyrie turned into Colin sexton.
Nets could of been a power house if they kept those pics. They could of had brown and Tatum. And traded them for a superstar
But they have KD and Kyrie now tho
😂😂😂😂😂 let’s laugh at the nets. Built the Celtics future and championship
billy king is the worst gm ever
Who just watched HORSE
just the 3 of you
Edit I'm sorry 5*
why is he on 2k19
Harden trade going to turn out worst for Brooklyn?
So you're like 27? Nicee
I think the celtics won this trade by a landslide, and then got really unlucky the following years. Now, i kinda think the Nets are better than the celtics. All depends on kd injury.
Lol
Heyo
they somehow made a worse trade in 2021
lol
Ted Stepian , David Kahn, Billy King and Isiah Thomas are some of the worst GMs in history
Revisit melo trade Denver finessed them
CIA not really Denver didn’t really win anything with the assets from that trade, yeah it was a solid trade but no a finesse.
@@buddyfats4768 they've been in the playoff hunt longer than the Knicks, and we're a game away from the 2019 WCF in their first run since 2013 with Lawson, Gallo, and Iggy
@@bgtheone2903 you had iggy for one year and he wasnt even part of the melo trade, denver won the trade but it wasnt a finesse.
@@buddyfats4768 fan of the nuggets but not a die-hard, they're in a much better situation than the Knicks it's not even close, they're a piece away from contention
@@bgtheone2903 you are missing the point of what im saying, it doesnt matter what position they are in now, he said the melo trade was a finesse but non of the pieces from the melo trade are still there and they didnt win anything with gallo they had a few good years but i would hardly call that trade a finesse. the reason they are good now was because of jokic which had nothing to do with the knicks trade.
People say that was a terrible trade but in 2020 Brooklyn has Durant and Kyrie. And the celtics haven't won a title out of the trade yet at least.
True. But that hayward injury really messed that situation up.
@@boodaviking2736 Yea coming from a Raptors fan. I really like Tatum he won me over. Hes a superstar already with the potential of being a top 5 players. The celtics core is great. I just think they need to improve their center position and their bench. But they are right there.
As bad as that trade was. Next season the Nets are gonna be better than the Celtics.
I was the first viewer and the first like
At least we got kd and Kyrie
If they dont get hurt 🤞
Yeah KD coming off an Achilles injury and Kyrie a flat earther who’s almost never healthy and is a terrible locker room guy. Should have just kept dlo
Koh Smoger huh? If KD is 70%of his old self he’s better than D lo. Kyrie is toxic but he has championship DNA don’t forget that
But technically the Nets are in a better position because they stole Kyrie form the Celtics😂😂😂😂😂
Except 'technically' they're not at all? Literally not a single person in Boston was sorry to see that diva go lol plus they replaced him with a point guard who's 90% as good as him and 1000x better fit for the team. You Brooklyn fans need to prepare for disappointment when you finally realize you ain't winning shit with a snake and a moron
Cameron Moseley first off calm down cause I’m not a nets fan and secondly if you ask anyone who has a better chance of winning a championship it’s the nets I’m sorry I hit a nerve cause your team disappointed last year😭😭
@@alphabah6094 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA your nets ain't winning shit for the next 100 years bb boy