You know where our society stands when films like Kabir Singh gets justified in the name of love & films like Thappad gets brutally trolled in the name of false allegations. Misogyny sadly has become a parasite in this nation.
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I am a Bengali..and recently I have observed every ...believe me..every Bengali serial's plot is applying sindor by the so called hero on the so called heroine's forehead without her consent...and then showing this as if it is very romantic... I get disgusted by all these plots
@@urmichakraborty6758 seriously...as if to marry you don't need to see or feel or understand anything..... simply apply sindoor..and marriage is sorted...as if love has to happen just by applying sindoor...and remember it must be forcefully and without consent
@@KK-wc5jz i dont think the solution is that simple, tOh maT dEkHo SeRiAl. u have to realise that these serials are the only thing avaialble in media for most of the population in India. They cant afford Netflix(or other better sites or the internet) for alt content. And thus go to tv. And they get influenced by the media since most have no education(in moral values) that some things are not right. So they start to think whatever is shown in the serials is right. This shapes their mind, and in turn, shapes the majority of the people living in Indian society. Schools don't help at all, by not teaching us this stuff, so that's why it is imp for the media to also take responsibility and show proper stuff, NOT HARRASSMENT AND FORCEFUL SHIT that certain people are just supposed to follow. Homophobia, misogyny, no consent , transphobia, shit like that gets spread even more because media doesn't portray stuff properly.
@@nithilasaravana2609 should i be a better human by replying to everyones comment "thats bullshit, go be and better human" would that make me a better human?
"It was her fault " "She was asking for it" "She was dressed like that" "She was talking to boys" "Why did she go out alone" "Why did she go out at night" "She deserved this" "Her life is now ruined " "You know, that woman was raped 20 years ago" "She won't have a normal life" . . Any many more. I have been hearing this everyday till now. And this is just sad reality of our society. I hope we change into a better generation who don't judge anyone for the crime they suffered.
We all think "why is the woman acting like that" while watching these movies but then when u actually think about it... The women's character and dialogue and the whole plot is also written by a man.
Then women writers will take revenge by following this woke theory Women are always innocent Villain will always be the man If I am women then don't judge me no matter what I do If my partner cheats on me I am the victim if I do the same I am empowered If my husband slaps me I am oppressed but if I slap my husband I am smashing patriarchy. Replacing Patriarchy with matriarchy is not the solution.
It was grooming. A minor got groomed and the court called it seduction. 🤮🤮 I really don't want to believe what I am seeing but .....harsh reality huh 🥲
We need more movies like THAPPAD! Audience should now be exposed to such cinema more, compared to the masala movies which mostly show male masculinity or patriarchal remarks
Even thappad is trying to satisfy a few people by the heroine being a good daughter in law Fr her in laws who never found their son's doing wrong in any way!!!!!
And most absurd thing is when the society try to defend the culprits by blaming the victim " woh ladki ese hi hai". Everyday I wakeup and the society show its new low 💔
I am going posting this around coz people are too quick to judge and do not look into the details This case is complicated and to understand it you need to look into it. From what I read the guy and girl are distantly related and were in a sexual relationship ( allegedly under threat by the guy) since she was in class 9. Then the girl complained to her parents about the abuse and the boys parents also got involved. They came to an agreement to marry the two when she turned 18 if the girl did not press charges against the guy. Fast forward to when she turned 18, the guys parents refuse to go through with the marriage and the girl files charges. The court says if the original agreement of marriage is done then the rape charges will also be dropped as per the agreement. It is also there in indian law that if a guy has sex with a girl under promise of marriage but breaks that promise then it is rape. Its very fucked up, our society is just not open to sex and it leads to such bad situations
They say, “The movie is based on true events.” And most people after knowing the sad reality, “True events are based on baseless and demoralising movies.”
To set a perspective, im 33yrs old woman. Thanks to bollywood, which was the only source of relationships and sex education I grew up believing that 1. "Good Girl' never makes the first move and should wait for the guy to approach. 2. No matter how much you like the guy when he 'proposes', you have to say No. The guy will persist and then you may yes. 3. If too many guys in the neighborhood are interested in a girl, it is the girl who gets gossiped about. 4. Once you say Yes, it is for life. Morals of those involved, especially the girl, are questioned if it is a short term relationship. As bollywood defined it, Yes to a proposal means a saat janom ka commitment. 5. No matter what, no sex. True love hai toh boy will understand and respect it. "Good Girls" anyway have no sexual urges or hormones...unless there is a toofan or baarish involved. 😂
Really though movies don't really change people's perspective that much. They only expose such problems. These issues with consent and female respect are deep rooted within our society and the only way for any of this to get better is by a good judiciary system that supports women which they clearly aren't doing. Fucking pointless
I totally agree with you, But the reason behind this is, There are some women who take advantage of 'these laws' and file cases. Movie (Section 375) where the girl files a case on her boyfriend for raping her! (which never happened) He was jailed for a crime which he never committed and earned a title 'Rapist'
@@33R3X well those type of cases are few and far between. I am not derailing the grimness of this problem but for a nation like ours where every damn street feels unsafe for women, this law is the need of the hour. Its high time to introspect and reflect what a douchebag of a society we are turning into before its too late.
@@rhythm2238 exactly we do know that happens but the cases aren't as frequent as crimes against women in India and in various shapes and forms. Let focus on one thing first. And when the crimes decrease and women are empowered to an extent that they can no longer tolerate crimes against and speak up for themselves, then we can treat them equally
The most sad thing is most of the people don't even know a word marital rape exists n I'm talking bout women they just think it's something all husbands do and they can't do anything which is so fucked up
Stalking girls is historically shown as the prime way to win a girl's yes.....As kids i did nit see this as a problem.....But now cringe looking at these stalking songs.....
Stalking scares the shit out of me man! I mean how can someone fall in love with someone who's been stalking you ... matlab even if he's good looking or whatsoever.. in real life its not sane .. any girl would get uncomfortable.. for ages they have been promoting harassment in the movies .. i mean till date .. but thanks to social media content creators who are exposing these kind of topics on a bigger scale .. and people are getting aware of it ...
You know I read about this and was so disgusted by what the CJI said that I no longer have faith in the justice system."Marry the Woman and you won't be charged."What the hell is wrong with him?By marrying the woman to her abuser you are shoving down a lifetime of sexual abuse upon her does he really not understand this.
Few days ago, California govt. passed a law that, during a consensual sex you are not allowed to take off the condom without consent of the woman. And here we are in 2021 India.
Indian government force a rapist to married the person he raped but doesn't allow two people to get married even they wanted to just because they belong to same gender *slow claps*
@Ashwini Desai btw indian government has filed a case in supreme court against homosexual marriage because it will not be appropriate for indian culture and country's constitution , you can google about it!!
People think that wattpad fictions show abusive content as love why I think the Bollywood has been doing it much much before when wattpad's parents were even born!
truer words have never been spoken, m'lady. also, i don't know what genre you read there, but there are quite a few stories that have really good romance plots, with proper respect for consent and without the double standards. i do, however, agree that there are quite a few abusive and disturbing courting plots on there.
@@riordanfan6038 I was saying in general there are a lot fictions there that really glorify abuse but yes I know there is a lot of better ones too. And some meaningful ones.
It is surprising Ma'am that mostly of the abusive romantic stories are written by women!! Because movies for a long time have glorified and romanticized bad boys and abusive, stalkers as great lovers...
I was once molested by a classmate as I was effeminate and fairly weak compared to other class boys. After the incident, one day I confronted him publicly out of frustration and his answer shocked me. He said, "What are you suggesting? That I start molesting girls?" So basically this toxic jock culture teaches their boys on the cusp of manhood that a molestation is a molestation if it is truly done by a man to a woman. I was shocked. The options of my molester were molesting me or some girl. Wow. And he was not even kidding when he said this. I was like, why do you have to molest anyone? What's with this crazy urge to physically violate someone? The guy also told me that weak effeminate boys are made like this (by God probably) so that masculine men like him can fulfil their lust for women which they cannot do within the constraints of law and how a girl's NO is more powerful than that of a boy's. Till date I am not able to shake off this memory, as I see on FB the guy is happily married, enjoying with wife and kid. Society really has its way of rewarding its toxic manly men.
Dude that's so fucked up. I hope you're ok. I really hope you're away from people like them. I threw up in my mouth reading that, people can be disgusting as fuck.
I send you healing and peace. It's pretty difficult to move on but you're bigger than your trauma and you deserve all the positivity in life. Good luck to you :)
As a woman my blood boils when I see such movies and that is the reason I have steered clear of most of the movies you talked about. I am so pleased that there are men like you who could see the real message behind these movies - deeply sugar coated in 'pariwar ki izzat' and trying to do "justice" to the assaulted woman.
Isse badaa punishment kya ho skta hai uskeliye????Usko cchoda toh unko safar nahi karna hai na taane sunna hai Ladki yeh na sune toh yehi ek raasta hai.... Zindagi bhar pallu banke rahenge toh woh kya hi kar paayenge????
@@kattibattisonachamak575 bhai dekho. Rape ke baat ka jo trauma uska kya? Jisne tumhe itna bura and horrifying experience diya ho jisse tum zindagi bhar ke liye bhul nahi sakte, usko tum roj dekhoge, uske saath space share karoge kesa lagega? Memories of the brutal assault will come back. She'll have trauma and insomnia. And to add the martial rape. Kya guarantee he ki wo insaan usko sahi tareeke treat karega? Tumne toh usko free pass de diya. Humesa baat honour ki nahi hoti, pehle us ladki ko ek insaan ki tarah dekho. Uska bhi dard samjho. Aur Shaadi ek ladki ke zindagi ka only goal nahi hota he. Let her live her life rather than pushing her to hell by marrying her to the rapist. Uski Zindagi he, uski marzi. Let her overcome those traumatic experiences.
I think that you are not acquainted totally with the case.This is an incident back in 2014. The girl was molested when she was a minor, and was promised by the accused on a 100 rupee stamp paper that he would marry her on the day she would turn 18 and she and her widow mother agreed to it. But the day she turned 18, she asked for the marriage and the man said that he would not. That is why she went to subsequent courts. She still wants to marry the man and that is why the judge asked the man...will you marry her? Thus I think the CJI stands at a better moral point than rest of us. See, this is the venom of fake or half news. We never see the full spectrum and just raise fingers on somebody without knowing everything.
@@puneetbudania9535some people in our society still think that rape victims should marry the rapists this that is probably why the victim and his mother agreed to the rapists proposal of marrying the victim when she becomes 18.The courts responsibility is not to ask him will you marry it should be to put him in jail I heard in a debate a person saying marrying rapist to the victims is seen as a solution to rape in some parts of our country and it is the job of the government that to discourage. The responsibility of the court should be to make sure this rapist should behind bars and not promote the backward mentality of marrying rapists to their victims
@Abhirup Nath i am from bangladesh dude... asian's have common name.. especially around indian subcontinent. And why will any one lie about their nationality.. it's not like not being an indian.. will give me some extra credits .
@Abhirup Nath bro where r u going. look my parents gave this name... n i am not hindu ... n i dont really think my ancestors were... or even if they were it doesnt matter ... moral of the story i am not an indian ...
After reading the news about the judge asking the abuser if he would marry the victim or not just one question crossed my mind Is India even a liveable place for women?
@@mewxtwo855 shaadi karna zaroori hai kya mujhe toh pata hi nahi tha can’t this little bichari as you call her be independent without a man dammit aur agar koi insaan isko pyaar karega he won’t think tht she was raped he would support her get through the trauma
@@mewxtwo855 ladkiyo ki life sirf shadi nahi hoti...jaise aap logo ki life mein job , career etc. Hai hamare life mein bhi hai. Aur koi kyu nahi karta usse shadi, aisa to hai nahi ki uss ladki ki koi galti hai to phir mujhe nahi lagta ki usse shaadi karne mein koi dikkat hai. Haa kafi logo ko dikkat ho sakti hai bt aise logo ko shaadi karna bhi nahi chahiye kyuki wo log shadi jaisi pure cheez ke layak bhi nahi hai.
I remember watching raja ki aayegi baarat when I was younger.. and being absolutely disgusted and confused. I said to myself this can't be the justice system of India.. this must be fiction.. Well it's 2021 and this is still happening. My heart breaks for the victims💔
And for me it was tejaswini , The whole movie showing the power of girl/ Women police officer. And then at the end the victim has to marry a culprit and at the end they both were smiling. I was like what ...!?? Because me to yahi expect kar rahi thi ki end me vo ladki us ladke ko goli mar de.
there is flaw in marriage systems...look at how many get married without dowry i m talking who are giving lectures. Its fault of the girl to accept marrying a person giving dowry
The point that Thappad, A movie where no men were was blamed falsely or abused or hurt etc is seen against men and Indian culture and is called fake feminism even by young generation..
high time somebody spoke about this!! bollywood literally has messed with society's heads..lyrics like - "hoto pe na matlab haan hoinga!" are bizarre and unacceptable!..lets agree, women representation in most of the bollywood movies has been of a damsel in distress and the hero coming to save her..Long way to go. its 2021 and we are still debating on this!
@@abys4055 Im also a south indian..yes..right tollywood, kollywood, mollywood are slow but are finding ways to break this stigma for sure!! whole of the entertainment industry should progress!
@@gvarshaganesh9879 mollywood was terribly corrupted during late 90s to early 2010s when people like dileep were trend setters..Before that and now for the last 7-8 years...It's politically a far more cultured industry than all other industries in dealing with such things
@@user-fk8md4jn3i we have a right government. I've seen people defend these rapists and judges just to prove that modi government is perfect. I've seen people defend the crimes committed before 2014 when there was congress government. The reality is that, I agree that we have come a long way since independence but we aren't even halfway to a desirable society.
Not only bollywood such shitty concept exists still in telugu movies too . I still find a song where hero stalks and harass heroine in a foreign locale with foreigner dancers . At the end heroine smiles and falls for him !!!!
@ಥ‿ಥ modern India honay ka matlab copying west. U know I think virginity is something that a person should share with someone special not just with anyone, like a person toward whom you are attracted too
@@viralbajpai8027 then prove that men are vergin before marrying a girl will they? There is no virginity concept. If hymej breaking is matters to you then character doesnt even matter to you.
@@nishugowda6172 bachpan Mai saar kay baal gir gayi thee Kya. Comment dhyan say padho mainey kisi specific gender ki baat ki kahi ladki likha. Mainey likha ki one should loose virginity with someone special not just with anyone. Aur haa woah insan weak charector ka hai jise moah aur Prem mai anatar nahi malum . Aur uss attraction kay bases pay physical hoo jata hai
@@qwerty-ju1qd toh behen meri mujhe yeah baatao where in the above comments I mentioned that u should do what I said. Like you said its my opinion I'm not forcing it on u or anyone else neither I said it for a particular gender I said it for both
Perhaps the prime problem is rape and sexual assault is still seen by many as an attack on the survivor's honour and not on the individual. Movies are reflective of a dangerous and shameful culture and also the same culture is being spread and familiarised by movies. The highest court of the country cannot be holding such regressive views. While on one hand we fight the increasing number of rape it is sad that we also have to fight a victim blaming culture and one that does not account the needs of a survivor of the violence.
rapists and molesters are free on bail and actually freed if they agree to marry or tie a rakhi from the victim. while comedians are being jailed for the offensive joke they never made. wow
BTW an offensive joke was made.. Not on that day.. But previously.. Who will decide when to be take offence or when not to? If someone is feeling offended, they should take legal route, which was taken in that case.. Whole Liberal brigade is upset when people take legal route.. BTW they were silent when some community simply cut throat on getting offended
@@OkarinHououinKyouma and other jokes also on shri ram and sita mata.. I don't know which news outlet he is following which is showing fake news may be ndtv or dhruv rathee..
This reminds me of a dialogue in Maari 2 (Dhanush’s flick) when a rape survivor claims she has been ruined and that her likelihood of finding love has been reduced to nil - “you aint a commodity or a thing to be ‘spoilt’. You are a human as much as anyone else is and till the time you dont get a guy who understands this rudimentary fact you might as well stay single. You dont need a guy who believes otherwise”. Usually his films are super regressive yet I was veritably stunned to see this change. 💯👌
same here When he used to reveiw movies that married off the victim to the rapist, I alwaz thought that it of course wont happen nowadays But after hearing d statement of this SC judge, I was so disgusted One can tell where India will go when a minor (me) doesnt want to live here
This is the bizzare cycle of events, movies mirroring society, society getting influenced by movies..!! This is why it's easy to make rape jokes and abuse cases are not taken seriously..as long as you can get the girl married, everything is good because she doesn't need anything else. Izzat ke siva humare pass kuch nahi hai.. apparently dimaag bhi nahi..!! 🙄
@@rohitbharti7566 Nah, the original comment makes more sense. Its a cycle, propagated by masala film makes, and if you think about it, police brutality cases are also influenced by movies a lot
I literally had goosebumps while watching this. I don’t know where to start to bring about a change. To teach our sons? To reach our daughters? To teach our parents to change their perspectives?
Someone asked in the comment section what is wrong with Indian laws? The answer is nothing... or everything. It depends. As harshad mehta showed it was not exactly a scam but the entire process of business was set in an illegal way and everyone was involved... same here. Those who study law of course they know such n number of loopholes. Loopholes big enough to put some transformer truck through em. So why don't they correct them? Well if they do then how defense attorneys are gonna earn? Remember in nirbhaya case how that lawyer used every trick possible to delay the sentence? The entire nation saw what an insane knowledge of law that man possess. He's gonna be hired by many rich parties in future. As the saying goes... we are not in the business of justice, we are in the business of law😌
My father is a lawyer and I agree with you. He is in the 'business of law' and not in the 'business of justice' And its the world's dirtiest profession for sure😣 P. S I hope my father doesn't see this 😅
well nowadays Supreme Court is slowly becoming a joke first the statement regarding legalisation of gay marraiges and now this .... I am losing faith in everyone
The worst thing is that in those who blame a woman for the crime she hasn't commited , there are women as well. How can they not understand her pain? Why don't they stand for her respect and her life?
Asking a rapist to marry the victim will be like rewarding the rapist instead of punishing him ..and the most stupidiest thing will be that it will be victim who will get punished for lifetime ..seriously i am ashamed of this decision
The biggest problem here is the discrepancy between conservatism and absolute patriarchy. Between modernization and westernization. People should clear these concepts first.
Thanks for speaking this out. Specially when this is coming from a man himself. Your contribution might be considered very small but it's enough to may be bring some sort of change in the society.
I still remember watching movies Raja ki aayegi barat and Tejasvini as a kid was such a terrifying experience for me.. Even after becoming an adult, rape scene in the movies makes me so uncomfortable and embarrassing at the same time that I feel ashamed of myself being a male ☹️
There is nothing shameful in being a man... as long as u dont believe in toxic masculinity Which (Judging by ur comment) Ik that u dont India needs more men like you, who are perfectly normal
Ok now it is time to file a petition stating that the victim will not be forced to marry the abuser because that will be the norm.I feel the abuser must be punished and not be given an option to be married.
Lol itni simple cheez hai , lekin apni buddhi kha ja ri hai , i mean punishment for r@pists and justice for victim , it's a simple statement but now we have to start petetion for even this!!. , So ab kya rojgar nhi ho ra justice wala yaha dedo hum log kar lenge 🙄😒.
Bollywood films are so ahead of their time. They predicted in 1990s how will India's Supreme Court behave in 2021. We have jokers filled in Judiciary who are ready to go to Parliament with their bizarre sense of justice,
In this particular case, the girl who has been abused is herself ready for the marriage because she wants to protect the honor of the child born to her by the perpetrator. She is more worried about the future of her child than her own life. The society is the one that is to be blamed.
Isse badaa punishment kya ho skta hai uskeliye????Usko cchoda toh unko safar nahi karna hai na taane sunna hai Ladki yeh na sune toh yehi ek raasta hai.... Zindagi bhar pallu banke rahenge toh woh kya hi kar paayenge????
Making the raped victim marry the person who raped her... That's the Supreme court's justice in 2020 😑😑😑 Dafuq is wrong with the judge... Kya phook ke aya tha woh pagal
@@127ymmfl11 don't worry about the victim here, I have gone through this case, and here the request was made from the girl's side that if the boy leaves his current wife and marries her then she has no problem in withdrawing her case. XD
As a student studying law I'm simply disgusted by these judges. All answers are already there in our laws yet they decide to force their outdated "Moral views" on young girls who deserve to have a better life. They are just plainly disrespecting and insulting our constitution and all the law institutions which are trying their best to establish justice.
Even as a kid I felt disgusted my the movie Raja ko aayegi baaraat. And the fact that the family member of rapist were constantly trying to kill Rani’s character makes it even more disturbing to watch.
Jammy, thank you for making this video. It was very much needed. Although I doubt if people don't understand the gravity of the situation, creators like you and others ( healthy sensible grown adults) how much try this remains...!!! These prejudices remained :'( People like us cringe, cry, scream in agony and anger. Try to make sense to others but this horror remains.
It has always been one step forward and two steps back with our laws. It is extremely disappointing to see that the dignity and respect which we deserve as human beings, has always come with conditions.
3:26 Funny being a Male himself he is denoting the whole Male species being Dogs and generalizing that all of them are same. And Males don't get raped 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
The worst part is that the problem with the girl being raped is everyone thinks "ab isse shaadi kaun karega" and the assault of the woman and her consent comes as a secondary thought. A woman being the "izzat of the ghar" (as said in Raja ki aayegi baarat) and that "izzat" being destroyed is the first priority of people. The girl being used, harassed, and raped is what many people don't even think. Marriage becomes the way to save that so-called "izzat" and the victim has to go through with it. Their consent regarding the marriage is not even important (even though this is a problem in general and not just in such cases) and the girl is made to go through with it to restore the family's status.
Jammy love you bro. you never fails to impress us. Thank you so much for this. We need more men like you. This statement is so problematic to so many levels. This government and this contry never fails to shock me. Yet Disappointed !!! It's so heartbreaking.
Rape cannot be stopped just by punishing the rapist or giving them death sentence. It can only and only be stopped by understanding why does a person rape and then finding a way out how to make sure this thought does not take birth in any other persons mind. It's a very broad concept, but we just think it's a small incident. This video clearly highlights some a points which shows the mentality of people towards a rape victim. Another reason why a women is raped. Right now we are just cutting off the branches, we need to uproot this issue.
The impact of these kind of scenes in movies on younger generation is insanely bad as they shape their thinking into a certain fixed way that society wants them to be. As a kid, I too have grown up watching these kind of scenes and this idea of whenever a girl is raped, molested or seen naked by a man, she should marry him, has rooted deeply in me like 1+1=2 as if it was a law and many people i know are still believing in it. People learn most of things knowingly or unknowingly from movies.These kind of scenes should be removed or at lest should not be glorified for well being of next generation.
I’m sorry but this video should have a trigger warning. I’m glad that you are bringing this to light but as someone who has gone through a period of sexual assault, the judges statement just wrenched my soul. And the audacity of that judge to ask if he wanted to marry that girl. Really? Is that where we are at as humanity that we forget who is the perpetrator and the victim. How come he gets a option to marry her or get jailed? When she didn’t even have voice when he was sexual exploiting her.For him those were a few moments but for the victim its the life time of trauma. The trauma that will stay with her for her entire life, she lives in her worst nightmare, while the actual monster get to have a option in either being punished or not? The justices system not only failed to give this girl justice, it failed every citizen.
The court verdict is more of a mirror of a much darker, more controversial and perhaps more shocking revelation: when the court asked the government to reply to LGBTQ+ marriages, the reply was that "marriage" of "a" boy and "a" girl is the ultimate and only truth in Hindu societies, when ancient Hindu scriptures actually turn out to include a lot more. Dekhke dard hota hain ki superpower ke sapne dekhne waalein yeh dekh nahi pate, kya uchit hain aur kya anuchit. Especially in these times. And the fault or the burden falls not upon a handful of people. It falls upon our society as a whole...
Many countries don’t even consider rape in many cases. Kisi b country mein koi change nai hona until we ourselves change our mindset and teach both son or daughter to respect other person and equality
I think most people don't know, but their is a show ongoing in colors where they are showing child marriage,and the worst part is that they are romanticizing the relationship between a nine year old girl and a 18 year old boy. And still no one is talking about it.
Here people are criticizing movies to have a negative influence on society but back when some people criticized Kabir Singh for same things everyone was mocking them like--"Maine to Gangs Of Wasseypur dekh kar murder nahi kiya."
Bottom line is Hindi movie industry plays a major part is forming public perception. They have to be responsible for the content they put forth as long as Munni badnaam, kabir Singh exist as fiction - there are bound to be Nirbhayas across India. Nothing can be passed as "Entertainment" in a volatile country like India.
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"Uski na mein hi haan hain". This one line has corrupted the minds of countless generations.
Soo damn true
It's disgusting!
Hassi to phassi
Then this countless generation need to watch " pink "
her No means No
and thats it.
Bhai tera username XD
You know where our society stands when films like Kabir Singh gets justified in the name of love & films like Thappad gets brutally trolled in the name of false allegations. Misogyny sadly has become a parasite in this nation.
Yes, Kabir Singh is toxic AF
Kabir Singh should be banned
@@shreyadebnath7218 I agree
So true
True
When youtubers are doing what journalists had to do . That's the new India
@@KK-wc5jz uhh ..what's that suppose to mean🙄 Suchith is absolutely right 👍
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I am a Bengali..and recently I have observed every ...believe me..every Bengali serial's plot is applying sindor by the so called hero on the so called heroine's forehead without her consent...and then showing this as if it is very romantic... I get disgusted by all these plots
The great Purna & Santu.
@@urmichakraborty6758 seriously...as if to marry you don't need to see or feel or understand anything..... simply apply sindoor..and marriage is sorted...as if love has to happen just by applying sindoor...and remember it must be forcefully and without consent
@@somamondal2289 also after sindoor dan (forcefully) the girl being a sati Savitri should accept her fate and also be proud of that
@@KK-wc5jz I don't...I have seen the promos
@@KK-wc5jz i dont think the solution is that simple, tOh maT dEkHo SeRiAl.
u have to realise that these serials are the only thing avaialble in media for most of the population in India. They cant afford Netflix(or other better sites or the internet) for alt content. And thus go to tv. And they get influenced by the media since most have no education(in moral values) that some things are not right. So they start to think whatever is shown in the serials is right.
This shapes their mind, and in turn, shapes the majority of the people living in Indian society.
Schools don't help at all, by not teaching us this stuff, so that's why it is imp for the media to also take responsibility and show proper stuff, NOT HARRASSMENT AND FORCEFUL SHIT that certain people are just supposed to follow.
Homophobia, misogyny, no consent , transphobia, shit like that gets spread even more because media doesn't portray stuff properly.
Rani Mukerji stated in a interview, that she regretted doing a film like that, she was a teenager who wasn't mature enough to understand things
The maturity you've shown by avoiding intro music and ur usual ending lines so as to maintain the solemnity of the video is much appreciated
And the immaturity by putting ads in this kind of topic too
@@younewber3027 bullshit. Go be a better human
@@nithilasaravana2609 should i be a better human by replying to everyones comment "thats bullshit, go be and better human" would that make me a better human?
@@younewber3027 He is UA-camr bro
Nonsense
The sad part is that the people who actually need to watch this won't and even if they do they probably won't get it.
Absolutely right
Very true unfortunately
Well said my fellow Tuluva sister 😇
I just feel that the next gen is more responsible and better educated than us. Lets hope for the best.
Thank u soo much 250 subscriber krne k liye😍
Plz ab 350 kr wa do😔
"It was her fault "
"She was asking for it"
"She was dressed like that"
"She was talking to boys"
"Why did she go out alone"
"Why did she go out at night"
"She deserved this"
"Her life is now ruined "
"You know, that woman was raped 20 years ago"
"She won't have a normal life"
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Any many more.
I have been hearing this everyday till now. And this is just sad reality of our society. I hope we change into a better generation who don't judge anyone for the crime they suffered.
Why the heck dont people ask what the guy was doing there!?
"Why did she go out at nigh" ye to hamarey saath bhi Hota hai
It's just simple if she's asking she can just ask you don't have to assume
@@bushraidrisi788 amen
She is drinking/smoking she must be of a very loose character, is one such absurd thing
We all think "why is the woman acting like that" while watching these movies but then when u actually think about it... The women's character and dialogue and the whole plot is also written by a man.
Then women writers will take revenge by following this woke theory
Women are always innocent
Villain will always be the man
If I am women then don't judge me no matter what I do
If my partner cheats on me I am the victim if I do the same I am empowered
If my husband slaps me I am oppressed but if I slap my husband I am smashing patriarchy.
Replacing Patriarchy with matriarchy is not the solution.
“SEDUCE” the girl? Are you kidding me? This AINT SEDUCTION ffs!
Exactly!! It's not seduction, it's a violation of consent. Simple as that
It was grooming. A minor got groomed and the court called it seduction. 🤮🤮 I really don't want to believe what I am seeing but .....harsh reality huh 🥲
😡
have you read the judgement ?
Gross
We need more movies like THAPPAD! Audience should now be exposed to such cinema more, compared to the masala movies which mostly show male masculinity or patriarchal remarks
Lots of movies are being made like that Why Anubhav Sinha don't make a movie on Sarvjeet Singh or like Sec 375
Even thappad is trying to satisfy a few people by the heroine being a good daughter in law Fr her in laws who never found their son's doing wrong in any way!!!!!
Absolutely. It's so sad That people are still talking bad about this film
tatti movie this wo. Good message but film was boring
@@bhaveshyadav5580 you forgot article 375 , this movie was based on men issues , very nice movie
And most absurd thing is when the society try to defend the culprits by blaming the victim " woh ladki ese hi hai". Everyday I wakeup and the society show its new low 💔
Exactly, no one dares to say “ wo ladka esa hi hai”.
@@krinalimbachiya5530 ummm delete, think before you write sumthing.
I am going posting this around coz people are too quick to judge and do not look into the details
This case is complicated and to understand it you need to look into it. From what I read the guy and girl are distantly related and were in a sexual relationship ( allegedly under threat by the guy) since she was in class 9. Then the girl complained to her parents about the abuse and the boys parents also got involved. They came to an agreement to marry the two when she turned 18 if the girl did not press charges against the guy. Fast forward to when she turned 18, the guys parents refuse to go through with the marriage and the girl files charges. The court says if the original agreement of marriage is done then the rape charges will also be dropped as per the agreement. It is also there in indian law that if a guy has sex with a girl under promise of marriage but breaks that promise then it is rape. Its very fucked up, our society is just not open to sex and it leads to such bad situations
@@thunderb00m could you please provide the source as to where you read/saw it. It'll help us understand the case better.
In pakistan boys get raped and are told woh ladke ese hi hai 😅 and they dont even consider it a crime
They say, “The movie is based on true events.”
And most people after knowing the sad reality, “True events are based on baseless and demoralising movies.”
Dude this is dark and deep at the same time😶
@aena tht what they are supposed to be but our society is shit so they are influenced by more morally shitty content
@@mahisinghvi08 hi babe
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@Ethan Ramsey true..
To set a perspective, im 33yrs old woman. Thanks to bollywood, which was the only source of relationships and sex education I grew up believing that
1. "Good Girl' never makes the first move and should wait for the guy to approach.
2. No matter how much you like the guy when he 'proposes', you have to say No. The guy will persist and then you may yes.
3. If too many guys in the neighborhood are interested in a girl, it is the girl who gets gossiped about.
4. Once you say Yes, it is for life. Morals of those involved, especially the girl, are questioned if it is a short term relationship. As bollywood defined it, Yes to a proposal means a saat janom ka commitment.
5. No matter what, no sex. True love hai toh boy will understand and respect it. "Good Girls" anyway have no sexual urges or hormones...unless there is a toofan or baarish involved. 😂
“Unless there is a toofan or bearish involved” 💀 so true tho 🤣🤣
CJI: Marry her,you will skip jail.
Me: Cut off his mojo in front of everyone and jail him. Let him live so that he remembers..
YESSS
This should happen tbh, let them live without that thing
@@thetoiletpaperrollondalgom4592 even best burn him alive. Death penalty for rape by publicly hanging. So sick minded people will not do this
and make him realise wut he has done it wold disturb him mentally
That was the most horrible thing in whole video. I still can't get this through that it's true!!
Indians should learn the word 'CONSENT' ! That's it! They should understand that a NO is a NO! We need more Pink,Queen(malayalam) etc !
And mardaani also
Yes
More, will over consent..!
@Ethan Ramsey But the points about roaming at night, being friendly with boys and moral policing issues were right.. weren't they?
Really though movies don't really change people's perspective that much. They only expose such problems. These issues with consent and female respect are deep rooted within our society and the only way for any of this to get better is by a good judiciary system that supports women which they clearly aren't doing. Fucking pointless
2 minute silence for those (including me) who are expecting the court to pass a judgement regarding marital rape in india
Sadly nobody cares about that....😔
I totally agree with you, But the reason behind this is, There are some women who take advantage of 'these laws' and file cases. Movie (Section 375) where the girl files a case on her boyfriend for raping her! (which never happened) He was jailed for a crime which he never committed and earned a title 'Rapist'
@@33R3X well those type of cases are few and far between. I am not derailing the grimness of this problem but for a nation like ours where every damn street feels unsafe for women, this law is the need of the hour. Its high time to introspect and reflect what a douchebag of a society we are turning into before its too late.
@@rhythm2238 exactly we do know that happens but the cases aren't as frequent as crimes against women in India and in various shapes and forms.
Let focus on one thing first.
And when the crimes decrease and women are empowered to an extent that they can no longer tolerate crimes against and speak up for themselves, then we can treat them equally
The most sad thing is most of the people don't even know a word marital rape exists n I'm talking bout women they just think it's something all husbands do and they can't do anything which is so fucked up
Stalking girls is historically shown as the prime way to win a girl's yes.....As kids i did nit see this as a problem.....But now cringe looking at these stalking songs.....
because there is no social media back then in 90s
Sad reality 🙂
Stalking scares the shit out of me man! I mean how can someone fall in love with someone who's been stalking you ... matlab even if he's good looking or whatsoever.. in real life its not sane .. any girl would get uncomfortable.. for ages they have been promoting harassment in the movies .. i mean till date .. but thanks to social media content creators who are exposing these kind of topics on a bigger scale .. and people are getting aware of it ...
stalking isnt wrong. if not with the intent of any kind of threat
@@shaziashakoor1722 thays your weakness and insecurity . you cant label stalking as wrong becoz of it. rather change yourself
You know I read about this and was so disgusted by what the CJI said that I no longer have faith in the justice system."Marry the Woman and you won't be charged."What the hell is wrong with him?By marrying the woman to her abuser you are shoving down a lifetime of sexual abuse upon her does he really not understand this.
The sad part is that channels like this and the swaddle do not have even a million subscribers !!
Dude swaddle is literally very biased on a lot of levels but this one is great honestly.
@K.G oh no I'm not talking about the true ones. Truth is truth. I'm talking about some of the videos which I found to be a bit biased.
@@sjjdhwhjw1257 Yeah, I agree...I found Swaddle biased in many videos but their good is more than the bad...
@@vighnarajnarvekar8909 that's right! Finding an actually unbiased UA-cam channel is rare.
Few days ago, California govt. passed a law that, during a consensual sex you are not allowed to take off the condom without consent of the woman.
And here we are in 2021 India.
Indian government force a rapist to married the person he raped but doesn't allow two people to get married even they wanted to just because they belong to same gender *slow claps*
@@bushraidrisi788 ikr most indians are homophobic and transphobic. They even use 'chakka' 'gay' as gaali
@Ashwini Desai because the government can stop it?
@Ashwini Desai as far as I know they have the authority to challenge the case as it's not a govt related case
@Ashwini Desai btw indian government has filed a case in supreme court against homosexual marriage because it will not be appropriate for indian culture and country's constitution , you can google about it!!
3:15 ok ladies on today's episode of "What objects women are?" We are roti and mithai...🙂
Yeah it's always us - the objects 😞
eaten by dogs 💖
Yeah sorry I was not funny for the previous comment . Now the reply to me makes no sense .
@@cinephilebuddy464 masti nahi
@@cinephilebuddy464 😑
People think that wattpad fictions show abusive content as love why I think the Bollywood has been doing it much much before when wattpad's parents were even born!
Wattpad isn't that bad, but maybe that is because I only read bxb rom-coms, and in those the abusive one always gets punished in the end.😕
truer words have never been spoken, m'lady. also, i don't know what genre you read there, but there are quite a few stories that have really good romance plots, with proper respect for consent and without the double standards. i do, however, agree that there are quite a few abusive and disturbing courting plots on there.
@@riordanfan6038 I was saying in general there are a lot fictions there that really glorify abuse but yes I know there is a lot of better ones too. And some meaningful ones.
@@IraserH agreed, agreed. i think i got confused initially, my apologies
It is surprising Ma'am that mostly of the abusive romantic stories are written by women!! Because movies for a long time have glorified and romanticized bad boys and abusive, stalkers as great lovers...
I was once molested by a classmate as I was effeminate and fairly weak compared to other class boys. After the incident, one day I confronted him publicly out of frustration and his answer shocked me.
He said, "What are you suggesting? That I start molesting girls?"
So basically this toxic jock culture teaches their boys on the cusp of manhood that a molestation is a molestation if it is truly done by a man to a woman. I was shocked. The options of my molester were molesting me or some girl. Wow.
And he was not even kidding when he said this. I was like, why do you have to molest anyone? What's with this crazy urge to physically violate someone? The guy also told me that weak effeminate boys are made like this (by God probably) so that masculine men like him can fulfil their lust for women which they cannot do within the constraints of law and how a girl's NO is more powerful than that of a boy's.
Till date I am not able to shake off this memory, as I see on FB the guy is happily married, enjoying with wife and kid. Society really has its way of rewarding its toxic manly men.
I am sorry for your experience. Hope you could move on and get help to overcome from that event.
@@cincinnn thanks
Dude that's so fucked up. I hope you're ok. I really hope you're away from people like them. I threw up in my mouth reading that, people can be disgusting as fuck.
I send you healing and peace. It's pretty difficult to move on but you're bigger than your trauma and you deserve all the positivity in life. Good luck to you :)
That is so so fucked up🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
As a woman my blood boils when I see such movies and that is the reason I have steered clear of most of the movies you talked about. I am so pleased that there are men like you who could see the real message behind these movies - deeply sugar coated in 'pariwar ki izzat' and trying to do "justice" to the assaulted woman.
Marrying ? You’re doing justice by punishing the rape victim ?
Isse badaa punishment kya ho skta hai uskeliye????Usko cchoda toh unko safar nahi karna hai na taane sunna hai Ladki yeh na sune toh yehi ek raasta hai.... Zindagi bhar pallu banke rahenge toh woh kya hi kar paayenge????
@@kattibattisonachamak575 bhai dekho. Rape ke baat ka jo trauma uska kya? Jisne tumhe itna bura and horrifying experience diya ho jisse tum zindagi bhar ke liye bhul nahi sakte, usko tum roj dekhoge, uske saath space share karoge kesa lagega? Memories of the brutal assault will come back. She'll have trauma and insomnia. And to add the martial rape. Kya guarantee he ki wo insaan usko sahi tareeke treat karega? Tumne toh usko free pass de diya.
Humesa baat honour ki nahi hoti, pehle us ladki ko ek insaan ki tarah dekho. Uska bhi dard samjho. Aur Shaadi ek ladki ke zindagi ka only goal nahi hota he. Let her live her life rather than pushing her to hell by marrying her to the rapist. Uski Zindagi he, uski marzi. Let her overcome those traumatic experiences.
I think that you are not acquainted totally with the case.This is an incident back in 2014. The girl was molested when she was a minor, and was promised by the accused on a 100 rupee stamp paper that he would marry her on the day she would turn 18 and she and her widow mother agreed to it. But the day she turned 18, she asked for the marriage and the man said that he would not. That is why she went to subsequent courts. She still wants to marry the man and that is why the judge asked the man...will you marry her? Thus I think the CJI stands at a better moral point than rest of us.
See, this is the venom of fake or half news. We never see the full spectrum and just raise fingers on somebody without knowing everything.
@@puneetbudania9535 so it was wrong since 2014!
@@puneetbudania9535some people in our society still think that rape victims should marry the rapists this that is probably why the victim and his mother agreed to the rapists proposal of marrying the victim when she becomes 18.The courts responsibility is not to ask him will you marry it should be to put him in jail I heard in a debate a person saying marrying rapist to the victims is seen as a solution to rape in some parts of our country and it is the job of the government that to discourage. The
responsibility of the court should be to make sure this rapist should behind bars and not promote the backward mentality of marrying rapists to their victims
This video actually had me in tears. It deeply disturbs me to see that this type of shit is going on in our country.
Me too. When i read about this incident yesterday, i was so much disturbed n angry and could not do anything for some time.
first correct the education system then everything will be fine
I am not from India. But this is the current situation of almost whole world. Thanks for conveying your thoughts. it means a lot..
'But' ?
@Abhirup Nath they clearly said "I'm not from india" don't see your point here 💀
@Abhirup Nath i am from bangladesh dude... asian's have common name.. especially around indian subcontinent. And why will any one lie about their nationality.. it's not like not being an indian.. will give me some extra credits .
@Abhirup Nath diya means light. It isnt exactly a hindu name.
@Abhirup Nath bro where r u going. look my parents gave this name... n i am not hindu ... n i dont really think my ancestors were... or even if they were it doesnt matter ... moral of the story i am not an indian ...
"..girl marries her abuser" how did it sound so good to the judge and other people and the girl herself?
We’re literally regressing as a nation.
Props to you for being bold and outspoken, and to highlight these issues.
The sad part is most people in our society find these judgements acceptable 😒
After reading the news about the judge asking the abuser if he would marry the victim or not just one question crossed my mind
Is India even a liveable place for women?
@@himaneeshpathakk1401 ikr...that is even more disturbing
@@priyaghosh5842 judge ka decision problematic hai but ek baat batao ki us bichari ladki ke sath akhirkar kon shadi karta
life is not all about marrige and not all the guys are of some down menatlity ..
@@mewxtwo855 shaadi karna zaroori hai kya mujhe toh pata hi nahi tha can’t this little bichari as you call her be independent without a man dammit aur agar koi insaan isko pyaar karega he won’t think tht she was raped he would support her get through the trauma
@@mewxtwo855 ladkiyo ki life sirf shadi nahi hoti...jaise aap logo ki life mein job , career etc. Hai hamare life mein bhi hai. Aur koi kyu nahi karta usse shadi, aisa to hai nahi ki uss ladki ki koi galti hai to phir mujhe nahi lagta ki usse shaadi karne mein koi dikkat hai. Haa kafi logo ko dikkat ho sakti hai bt aise logo ko shaadi karna bhi nahi chahiye kyuki wo log shadi jaisi pure cheez ke layak bhi nahi hai.
I remember watching raja ki aayegi baarat when I was younger.. and being absolutely disgusted and confused. I said to myself this can't be the justice system of India.. this must be fiction.. Well it's 2021 and this is still happening. My heart breaks for the victims💔
And for me it was tejaswini ,
The whole movie showing the power of girl/ Women police officer.
And then at the end the victim has to marry a culprit and at the end they both were smiling.
I was like what ...!??
Because me to yahi expect kar rahi thi ki end me vo ladki us ladke ko goli mar de.
@@r_r11111 Never saw that movie.. but your ending sounds much better!
@@MonishaKavita hi babe
Yes
Even I was disgust after watching that movie
I was so small back then but have that much sense to feel that movie was absolutely wrong 🤐
there is flaw in marriage systems...look at how many get married without dowry i m talking who are giving lectures. Its fault of the girl to accept marrying a person giving dowry
My respect for you has grown over 10 fold. Not only as a content creator but as a person you are a gem.
The point that Thappad, A movie where no men were was blamed falsely or abused or hurt etc is seen against men and Indian culture and is called fake feminism even by young generation..
Wow really????
I really wannna watch that movie now.
@@Jivi_Galaxy 💯%
EXACTLY
high time somebody spoke about this!! bollywood literally has messed with society's heads..lyrics like - "hoto pe na matlab haan hoinga!" are bizarre and unacceptable!..lets agree, women representation in most of the bollywood movies has been of a damsel in distress and the hero coming to save her..Long way to go. its 2021 and we are still debating on this!
And one of the lines of a song ' socha hai ye ki tumhe rasta bulaye, soni jagah pe kahi chere daraye' these line signifies eveteasing of women
I am from south india...and u can say indian film industries not bollywood here
@@abys4055 Im also a south indian..yes..right tollywood, kollywood, mollywood are slow but are finding ways to break this stigma for sure!! whole of the entertainment industry should progress!
@@abys4055 Even South Indian film industry is the same.
@@gvarshaganesh9879 mollywood was terribly corrupted during late 90s to early 2010s when people like dileep were trend setters..Before that and now for the last 7-8 years...It's politically a far more cultured industry than all other industries in dealing with such things
These crimes are heinous! Doesn't matter whether you support left or right. Just don't justify these crimes.
I believe a nation is as strong as its women. Mistreatment of women=Failure of a nation
Who is that ignorant to bring left or right here???
@@user-fk8md4jn3i ikr
@@user-fk8md4jn3i we have a right government. I've seen people defend these rapists and judges just to prove that modi government is perfect. I've seen people defend the crimes committed before 2014 when there was congress government. The reality is that, I agree that we have come a long way since independence but we aren't even halfway to a desirable society.
This is the problem of society not the government nor the left or right
Idea of romance for Bollywood- Harassment of girl till she fall in love with you
In 2021 ...that is pathetic😡🤬
& now we know
where they get the idea's frm
South cinema lso n ppl actually start shitting on thappad n pink n movies like that it's absurd
Dude, you just wrote script for 80% Bollywood flims (before 2000)
Not only bollywood such shitty concept exists still in telugu movies too . I still find a song where hero stalks and harass heroine in a foreign locale with foreigner dancers . At the end heroine smiles and falls for him !!!!
I am so disgusted right now. Why is a woman's virginity such a big deal? I honestly thought that our society was over such things but I was wrong.
@ಥ‿ಥ modern India honay ka matlab copying west. U know I think virginity is something that a person should share with someone special not just with anyone, like a person toward whom you are attracted too
@@viralbajpai8027 then prove that men are vergin before marrying a girl will they? There is no virginity concept. If hymej breaking is matters to you then character doesnt even matter to you.
@@nishugowda6172 bachpan Mai saar kay baal gir gayi thee Kya. Comment dhyan say padho mainey kisi specific gender ki baat ki kahi ladki likha. Mainey likha ki one should loose virginity with someone special not just with anyone. Aur haa woah insan weak charector ka hai jise moah aur Prem mai anatar nahi malum . Aur uss attraction kay bases pay physical hoo jata hai
@@viralbajpai8027 that's your opinion, people should stop putting out their opinions like rules and respect others opinions and choices in life.
@@qwerty-ju1qd toh behen meri mujhe yeah baatao where in the above comments I mentioned that u should do what I said. Like you said its my opinion I'm not forcing it on u or anyone else neither I said it for a particular gender I said it for both
Perhaps the prime problem is rape and sexual assault is still seen by many as an attack on the survivor's honour and not on the individual. Movies are reflective of a dangerous and shameful culture and also the same culture is being spread and familiarised by movies. The highest court of the country cannot be holding such regressive views. While on one hand we fight the increasing number of rape it is sad that we also have to fight a victim blaming culture and one that does not account the needs of a survivor of the violence.
rapists and molesters are free on bail and actually freed if they agree to marry or tie a rakhi from the victim.
while comedians are being jailed for the offensive joke they never made.
wow
You can make first point..
Don't put your ideology in the garb of making a good point
BTW an offensive joke was made.. Not on that day.. But previously..
Who will decide when to be take offence or when not to?
If someone is feeling offended, they should take legal route, which was taken in that case..
Whole Liberal brigade is upset when people take legal route.. BTW they were silent when some community simply cut throat on getting offended
@@OkarinHououinKyouma and other jokes also on shri ram and sita mata..
I don't know which news outlet he is following which is showing fake news may be ndtv or dhruv rathee..
@@byethere and there was more outrage controversy and anger about the man who made offensive joke than there is on these stupid judgements
Leave it.
Already IT cell idiots are spamming their whatsapp knowledge here without any proofs.
I am relieved by the fact that this is being talked about by men. Thank you very much Jammy
And he's back with our favourite segment!
Jammy can u plz do 'pawri ho rhi hai' reaction video
@@rahulverma8774 why?
@@rahulverma8774 firstly that meme is one month old.
@@Timepass-cx1do I'm now irritated with that meme
@@byethere at this point I think yashraj is becoming overrated like most big Indian youtubers
This reminds me of a dialogue in Maari 2 (Dhanush’s flick) when a rape survivor claims she has been ruined and that her likelihood of finding love has been reduced to nil - “you aint a commodity or a thing to be ‘spoilt’. You are a human as much as anyone else is and till the time you dont get a guy who understands this rudimentary fact you might as well stay single. You dont need a guy who believes otherwise”. Usually his films are super regressive yet I was veritably stunned to see this change. 💯👌
As woman... its difficult to listen this.. i can't imagine the poor innocent girls who faced it
same here
When he used to reveiw movies that married off the victim to the rapist, I alwaz thought that it of course wont happen nowadays
But after hearing d statement of this SC judge, I was so disgusted
One can tell where India will go when a minor (me) doesnt want to live here
Not just woman, but any person who has compassion and logical thinking ability would be distraught.
Now we need more female centric movies like Fashion , Queen , Pink , Mary Kom and many more..
Mary kom ma'am is herself an inspiration😊
Please ...bollywood is busy making coolie no 1 and other crap...it'll probably take another century for them to start using their brains!
@@shivanimanoj1290 bollywood is shitwood
@Shruti Tripathy 👍👍
Well these movies are definitely nice but nowadays the female centric movies just seems too forced
This is the bizzare cycle of events, movies mirroring society, society getting influenced by movies..!! This is why it's easy to make rape jokes and abuse cases are not taken seriously..as long as you can get the girl married, everything is good because she doesn't need anything else.
Izzat ke siva humare pass kuch nahi hai.. apparently dimaag bhi nahi..!! 🙄
Hello Mishra ji❤️
This the ugly side of India that nobody wants....
So true... This is nothing but the patriarchy mentality of the society..
@@rohitbharti7566 Nah, the original comment makes more sense. Its a cycle, propagated by masala film makes, and if you think about it, police brutality cases are also influenced by movies a lot
@@gogo8965 I think it gone both ways. we can't just blame all of India problem on movie and tv show
This should be taught in schools. The censor board should look into these kind of films. Why is this still happening in 2021?
The censor board is also filled with people who lack awareness.
Thappad was one of the best movies I've watched.
I literally had goosebumps while watching this. I don’t know where to start to bring about a change. To teach our sons? To reach our daughters? To teach our parents to change their perspectives?
I don't think it's only on Bollywood, Also in south.
Yeah he said it . The Rajinikanth movie is remake of nattaamai,a Tamil movie
It's about INDIA
Yeah true, i have seen couple of rajnikanth movies with the same stunt.
@Ethan Ramsey true and it's sad and disgusting
@Ethan Ramsey Ikr I hated that movie just because of that ending
Someone asked in the comment section what is wrong with Indian laws? The answer is nothing... or everything. It depends. As harshad mehta showed it was not exactly a scam but the entire process of business was set in an illegal way and everyone was involved... same here. Those who study law of course they know such n number of loopholes. Loopholes big enough to put some transformer truck through em. So why don't they correct them? Well if they do then how defense attorneys are gonna earn? Remember in nirbhaya case how that lawyer used every trick possible to delay the sentence? The entire nation saw what an insane knowledge of law that man possess. He's gonna be hired by many rich parties in future.
As the saying goes... we are not in the business of justice, we are in the business of law😌
My father is a lawyer and I agree with you. He is in the 'business of law' and not in the 'business of justice'
And its the world's dirtiest profession for sure😣
P. S
I hope my father doesn't see this 😅
U mentioned about Nirbhaya but the first one I could remember was Salman Khan's lawyer.
We need more honest guys like you ...
you are a pseudo uneducated feminist . i hv judged you from your various comment s. you should not even be allowed to comment. reported
^rEpOrTeD my comment?😆 Great job👏. Congrats🎊✨️. Ishi khusi me guu kha le 100 kilo
After this, I’ve lost trust in the only authority I believed in: this wasn’t expected at least from the Supreme Court, man!
well nowadays Supreme Court is slowly becoming a joke first the statement regarding legalisation of gay marraiges and now this .... I am losing faith in everyone
@@jennie-bq1eq exactly
read the judgement first.
The worst thing is that in those who blame a woman for the crime she hasn't commited , there are women as well. How can they not understand her pain? Why don't they stand for her respect and her life?
Asking a rapist to marry the victim will be like rewarding the rapist instead of punishing him ..and the most stupidiest thing will be that it will be victim who will get punished for lifetime ..seriously i am ashamed of this decision
The biggest problem here is the discrepancy between conservatism and absolute patriarchy. Between modernization and westernization. People should clear these concepts first.
We live in a absurd world. That's it. And we as a society are responsible
The state of our goverment and country is soo sad and heartbreaking :(
Ikrr even the law is becoming bs these days...
If only you were hokage 😔
Jammy can u plz do 'pawri ho rhi hai' reaction video
@@akhiljain3425 but naruto isn't real naa😥😥
@@shanmukhapriya5695 😂
So....they are giving rapist the license to keep raping the victim? I never understood the raja ki ayegi barat's logic😬
Even i when was saw this film i felt disgusted
Thanks for speaking this out. Specially when this is coming from a man himself. Your contribution might be considered very small but it's enough to may be bring some sort of change in the society.
I still remember watching movies Raja ki aayegi barat and Tejasvini as a kid was such a terrifying experience for me.. Even after becoming an adult, rape scene in the movies makes me so uncomfortable and embarrassing at the same time that I feel ashamed of myself being a male ☹️
There is nothing shameful in being a man... as long as u dont believe in toxic masculinity
Which (Judging by ur comment) Ik that u dont
India needs more men like you, who are perfectly normal
@@anahitsandhu7424 Thank you for such kind words 😊
Ok now it is time to file a petition stating that the victim will not be forced to marry the abuser because that will be the norm.I feel the abuser must be punished and not be given an option to be married.
The abuser should be given death penalty
Lol itni simple cheez hai , lekin apni buddhi kha ja ri hai , i mean punishment for r@pists and justice for victim , it's a simple statement but now we have to start petetion for even this!!. , So ab kya rojgar nhi ho ra justice wala yaha dedo hum log kar lenge 🙄😒.
@Might Guy the rapist should serve life imprisonment then.
Bollywood films are so ahead of their time. They predicted in 1990s how will India's Supreme Court behave in 2021. We have jokers filled in Judiciary who are ready to go to Parliament with their bizarre sense of justice,
It's not a prediction. Most likely people's mind were influenced from these kinds of movies.
@@juntalks313 we tend to underestimate the influence of media in building people's mentality.
@@mcchilde2903 yeah... that's true
Lajja is an amazing movie and really needed to be watched.
In this particular case, the girl who has been abused is herself ready for the marriage because she wants to protect the honor of the child born to her by the perpetrator. She is more worried about the future of her child than her own life. The society is the one that is to be blamed.
Thank you so much for this segment Jammy.
This was much needed for the indian audience to watch.
Well, looking at Supreme Court's handful of judgments, Bollywood got some justifications..
Latest court judgement make me think if justice still prevails in India .... Marriage cannot compensate the trauma a girl underwent...
Isse badaa punishment kya ho skta hai uskeliye????Usko cchoda toh unko safar nahi karna hai na taane sunna hai Ladki yeh na sune toh yehi ek raasta hai.... Zindagi bhar pallu banke rahenge toh woh kya hi kar paayenge????
Making the raped victim marry the person who raped her...
That's the Supreme court's justice in 2020 😑😑😑
Dafuq is wrong with the judge... Kya phook ke aya tha woh pagal
By marrying the victim off to the criminal, they are punishing the victim instead of the criminal.
@@127ymmfl11 don't worry about the victim here, I have gone through this case, and here the request was made from the girl's side that if the boy leaves his current wife and marries her then she has no problem in withdrawing her case. XD
As a student studying law I'm simply disgusted by these judges. All answers are already there in our laws yet they decide to force their outdated "Moral views" on young girls who deserve to have a better life. They are just plainly disrespecting and insulting our constitution and all the law institutions which are trying their best to establish justice.
Kudos to you Jammie for calling this out without any hesitation.
India is still living in 90s
Hate to see it man
the 1890's
@@JJ-hm9ni 😂
When Bollywood scriptwriters become Judge😌
Even as a kid I felt disgusted my the movie Raja ko aayegi baaraat. And the fact that the family member of rapist were constantly trying to kill Rani’s character makes it even more disturbing to watch.
Jammy, thank you for making this video. It was very much needed. Although I doubt if people don't understand the gravity of the situation, creators like you and others ( healthy sensible grown adults) how much try this remains...!!!
These prejudices remained :'(
People like us cringe, cry, scream in agony and anger. Try to make sense to others but this horror remains.
Mirch Masala starring Smita Patil and Naseeruddin Shah is a brilliant example of a woman who stands and fights for her honour ⚡
It has always been one step forward and two steps back with our laws. It is extremely disappointing to see that the dignity and respect which we deserve as human beings, has always come with conditions.
It is horrible that people think about the girl's marriage first than her safety after she has been raped.
First 2 minutes was very explanatory about situation and safety of women in this country. Thanks for making the video 🙏
Isn't he the only one few people who are persistent in showing our society a mirror and that's also for a long time.
Justice Ashutosh Kumar: A feeble no means a yes.
Like seriously!
A feeble no means NO!!!
Apparently some men don't understand the difference. Akal se paidal haina!
3:26 Funny being a Male himself he is denoting the whole Male species being Dogs and generalizing that all of them are same.
And Males don't get raped 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
True, we cant just stereotype the whole gender like this
@@anahitsandhu7424 hell yeahh
@हरि पुत्तर lmao
@हरि पुत्तर I am a girl and I felt uncomfortable too, thats comparison was really disgusting
I was rejected but i never showed aggression. Getting rejected doesn’t make you less of a man.
The worst part is that the problem with the girl being raped is everyone thinks "ab isse shaadi kaun karega" and the assault of the woman and her consent comes as a secondary thought. A woman being the "izzat of the ghar" (as said in Raja ki aayegi baarat) and that "izzat" being destroyed is the first priority of people. The girl being used, harassed, and raped is what many people don't even think. Marriage becomes the way to save that so-called "izzat" and the victim has to go through with it. Their consent regarding the marriage is not even important (even though this is a problem in general and not just in such cases) and the girl is made to go through with it to restore the family's status.
My chest burns just by thinking that used to enjoy those movies as a kid and thought it was all about love.
It's 2021, I thought we were moving forward 😞
India is evolving downwards😢
its evolving......just backwards
@Ethan Ramsey so true, the real cases r just lost in all this
Jammy love you bro. you never fails to impress us. Thank you so much for this. We need more men like you. This statement is so problematic to so many levels. This government and this contry never fails to shock me. Yet Disappointed !!! It's so heartbreaking.
Rape cannot be stopped just by punishing the rapist or giving them death sentence. It can only and only be stopped by understanding why does a person rape and then finding a way out how to make sure this thought does not take birth in any other persons mind. It's a very broad concept, but we just think it's a small incident. This video clearly highlights some a points which shows the mentality of people towards a rape victim. Another reason why a women is raped. Right now we are just cutting off the branches, we need to uproot this issue.
The impact of these kind of scenes in movies on younger generation is insanely bad as they shape their thinking into a certain fixed way that society wants them to be. As a kid, I too have grown up watching these kind of scenes and this idea of whenever a girl is raped, molested or seen naked by a man, she should marry him, has rooted deeply in me like 1+1=2 as if it was a law and many people i know are still believing in it. People learn most of things knowingly or unknowingly from movies.These kind of scenes should be removed or at lest should not be glorified for well being of next generation.
I’m sorry but this video should have a trigger warning. I’m glad that you are bringing this to light but as someone who has gone through a period of sexual assault, the judges statement just wrenched my soul. And the audacity of that judge to ask if he wanted to marry that girl. Really? Is that where we are at as humanity that we forget who is the perpetrator and the victim. How come he gets a option to marry her or get jailed? When she didn’t even have voice when he was sexual exploiting her.For him those were a few moments but for the victim its the life time of trauma. The trauma that will stay with her for her entire life, she lives in her worst nightmare, while the actual monster get to have a option in either being punished or not? The justices system not only failed to give this girl justice, it failed every citizen.
😭 I feel like rage and pitty together.. don't know what to say.. seriously!
@@KK-wc5jz kyu nhi kar sakte?! 😕
@@KK-wc5jz but I think woh sirf uska opinion batarahi thi. Tumhe koi hak nhi he bolne ka ki tum chup ho jao.! Does it even look good?!
I want Supreme court justices to be woman in these cases🙂
It wouldn’t help. The pocso case judge in Mumbai was a woman and she ruled against the victim.
Mentality of the people needs to change.
PUSHPA GANEDIWALA is a women!!!!!!☹️☹️☹️
Koi difference hi nahi hai. I've seen so many older women who say shit like this. Is country mein acche log kam hai.
Like maine apni personal zindagi main hi itne problematic men and women dekhe hai,puri country mein pata nahi kitne hoge.
One thing I never understood is that.. If someone is raped. How does the honor of the victim is harmed? Like how... It should be opposite.
The court verdict is more of a mirror of a much darker, more controversial and perhaps more shocking revelation: when the court asked the government to reply to LGBTQ+ marriages, the reply was that "marriage" of "a" boy and "a" girl is the ultimate and only truth in Hindu societies, when ancient Hindu scriptures actually turn out to include a lot more. Dekhke dard hota hain ki superpower ke sapne dekhne waalein yeh dekh nahi pate, kya uchit hain aur kya anuchit. Especially in these times. And the fault or the burden falls not upon a handful of people. It falls upon our society as a whole...
Many countries don’t even consider rape in many cases. Kisi b country mein koi change nai hona until we ourselves change our mindset and teach both son or daughter to respect other person and equality
I think most people don't know, but their is a show ongoing in colors where they are showing child marriage,and the worst part is that they are romanticizing the relationship between a nine year old girl and a 18 year old boy. And still no one is talking about it.
@@byethere the show name is Barrister babu
I'm so done with this world
No fucking way🤦♀️🤦♀️
Jammy can u plz do 'pawri ho rhi hai' reaction video
😶
"Daag lagane wala hii agar Sindoor lagade"
After hearing this I literally dropped my phone.
This is the most inspirational MATLAB KUCH B EPISODE till date.. Thankyou very much for showing the reality of justice in india... Thankyou
Here people are criticizing movies to have a negative influence on society but back when some people criticized Kabir Singh for same things everyone was mocking them like--"Maine to Gangs Of Wasseypur dekh kar murder nahi kiya."
Bottom line is Hindi movie industry plays a major part is forming public perception. They have to be responsible for the content they put forth as long as Munni badnaam, kabir Singh exist as fiction - there are bound to be Nirbhayas across India. Nothing can be passed as "Entertainment" in a volatile country like India.