I think you forgot about the ZvZ performance Im rocking the best gaming cpu there is on the consumer market. 9800x3d with 64gb 6400mhz ram and a sapphire 6950xt nitro+ pure and my frames are ass on low settings
@@xYNPR0DUCTi0NS I have full AMD CPU and GPU, lower series than you a bit, I play on epic castle siege with 60 fps no issue whatsoever, so there is something wrong on your side unfortunately.
@@forfunchannel8126 Idk what to do, every fps in any game has skyrocketed for me. My CPU and RAM is overclocked, its only TnL that isnt working properly in Siege or any big scale fights
Your old school games didn't have 1000 players on screen. Old school games had instances fights, loading screens though areas and crashing when there were too many people. Targeting wasnt an issue because there wasnt that many targets. Astral vision solves the issues, learn to use it. That's how people are attacking people so fast after the decloak.
@@antesudar2647 I didn't say they aren't click to target but all games I played like Aion or WoW have both click and tab target and both work like intended
@sumtingwoang trying to run 2 star dungeon for gaitan. And literally the miniboss was harder than final because you had to fly and it kept rubberbanding me. So fucked
same like im a liberator and i would sometimes run heal longbow skill for myself i kinda mess up sometimes with self healing keybind and end up healing my teammate instead
The targeting issue is why I quit. With flash wave being the meta who needs to target when you just launch a projectile into a crowd. I mean screw everyone who isn’t using a bow that actually has to pick a priority target
As a flashwave andy, Id be much happier to target 1 priority target and chase him down. As using flashwave sure sounds easy unless: - you fight at Kowazan and similar terrain and your flashwaves go to the space - you need to go into the middle of 50 enemies to cast flashwave into the backline - you get focused by 3 hooks and 5 gs/dg players - you dont have a way out of stun, the CC gauge is full after 3rd CC from gs/dg (bind, 1 stun jump, 1 stun + slash) but you are dead If you have a squad and guild which defends their bow users then its eazy peazy, as you can do just 20 flashwaves and wipe most guilds, sure.
@@marioharrer9999 you mean on the barrier? Sure it helps you survive once in 1 minute xd Aint gonna save you from 2x 10k by full hp adentus gs/dg guillotine
100% agree , all of them happened to me , it's really frustrating, now i kinda play just because i invested money already , but it really annoys me and at some point the frustration will outweigh the investment and will just quit. 😔
I quit the game EXACTLY because of the things you outlined. I played SNS/GS and every time a deathblow would cancel and my character would slide, a little part of me died inside.
I'm gonna take a guess at least with the abomb example when you had 3 mobs... Its ordering characters from you. So you were targeting the middle one, the next one further out distance wise was back and to the left rather than the point blank one. Personally i just use the astral vision... its gonna show me how the game is ordering 1-12 and i can just use that panel if needed. I also use it for raid healing... but speaking of that... WHAT IN THE GOD DAM HELL DID THEY DO TO HEALING AND BUFF TARGETING. Its now forced as mouse over instead of using on yourself when you don't have a target... which is incredibly annoying for skills like Enchanting time where you really wanna buff yourself up and now require your cursor to fly into the sky.
This... and oh boy if you want to use it in big GvG battle where u zoom out as much as possible and just some tree or pillar is in your corner or side view and play this as SNS GS tank :D
In Whelps stream on KR during Castle siege, Players defending inside are fishing during Castle siege 😂 unfortunately that might be the future for Global as well.
Yeah they need to focus on action cam. These are my woes, for the first month there was no option to drop friendly target and because tab only cycles through enemy targets you had to cancel action cam and click on yourself to heal yourself, they have added a cancel friendly target. It's still hard to manage targeting in action cam though you have to have two extra keybinds one for drop target and another to drop friendly target to effectively use ,and even then it's annoying the target hit box is not selectable through players or other mobs either....GW2 DID THIS RIGHT the should take a que from them
I had alot issues with tab targeting of even click targeting it's brutal. Ppl will quit because of the targeting system it's impossible in siege. Gives me a target in Narnia instead of the person infornt of me. Is there anything we can do in settings or we all fked until they fix it?
Sadly Throne and liberty have issues which were solved at the end of the Vanilla WoW / Burning crusade start. Lazy Peon did video what he does not like about this game ... nothing of his points were solved. Plus he did not even mention Q block scripting, targeting and lack of raid groups to balance zerging guilds ...
NCSOFT Should just bring on "Team Bloodlust" from OG Blade and Soul. Hands down, no MMO I have played since Aion 2.0 and Tera days has combat ecosystem and perfect as Blade and Soul. From Targeting to Amination executions to hit boxes. They nailed it. NCSOFT best fork out the cash and resurrect those guys.
same sht from a healers pov. especially when it comes to self healing and trying to cancel your current target lock. sometimes your abilites just dont even work. amazon never ceases to amaze me with how they come up with such a beautiful game and make a such cancer combat system they completely ignore and just keep pumping out updates and skins. smh
@ 100% that’s a dead give away. I’ve been F2P since the first battle pass but decided to buy lucent to make the build I was switching to faster. They held my lucent for 3 days but the money comes directly from my account 😂 idk if that’s the console method or what but it’s 3 days everytime I buy lucent now. Never done rmt it just happens and there is zero support response when filing a ticket. I assume they’ve made a shit ton of money now to where it won’t matter when this game dies soon i guess.
Finally someone said it that the tab targeting is worst right now and not workinh properly. I thought I am just high or trolling myself now I know its not.
Add the Arc boss loot stealing gleaders. 2 personal drops stolen by 2 dif guild leaders on 2 dif severs. Regardless what loot rules we have on discord greed overrides it and AGS aint gives a shit. Whaled at the start quit yesterday after bow my staff was stolen as well.
There will never be a good MASS PvP MMOs, especially not one where you can balance AoE vs Single Targeters. Only Ragnarok did it nicely but its because their system was nice.
Honestly the healing skills and CD timers in this game are kind of trash. The variety and ability to handle the type of engagements in this game are trash. And they made it even worse when they put already shitty abilities on shared CD's. Absolute stupidity imo.
5:46 the same thing happens with spear dash ill be spamming the button and its like the game cant find a path to the target and ur character is just spazzing out trying to move
You hit one of the most serious issues with this game... The closest target COMPLETELY RUINS my melee gameplay. Also they should implement left click hold drag to move.
Yo this is a great idea and I would love that. I hate the meta where they throw all the tanks in the front and you can't find anyone to target who isn't a tank
@@SooMuchSmokeeif all the tanks are in the front the dps should be in the back, middle is gonna be the shitter tanks who are lost and backline normally has bow players and 1 tank and healer per party
there is plenty of worse things mainly all of the over geared players practically ruin any chance of fun in almost all pvp aspects of the game all new players find it boring and leave simply because no matter how skilled you are or what you block or how you outplay youll just get bulldozed by higher combat power'd gear and stats dont even get me started on how extremely broken and unchallenged the guild alliances are i mean i get there needs to be the rank 1 people but at the same time it feels unbelievably one sided and pointless to even participate and i completely understand why most leave the game
With the tabbing system you're proposing, the tab would always go to the same person every single time. It doesn't make sense that suddenly it tabs to some arbitrary dude that's kinda close I guess but not too close, but also depends on the moment. Either you want tab to tab through all available targets aka what it normally does or you want it to just lock on to the nearest target every time.
So true. I feel the exact same way. I've had wayyyyy too many times in arena where I'm trying to assassinate a target and my character just slides right back to where I was originally positioned.
the gale thing, and the fucking SLIDE on charged Guillotine?! OH MY GOOODDD! Like I get that I'm already close to the boss so I don't have to 'rush in', but LET ME USE IT ANYWAYS! I want my ATTACK SPEED BUFF PLEASE AND THANK YOU NCSOFT GET WITH THE PROGRAM PLEASEEE!
The slide glitch is the main reason I switched off Ravager. I figured out why it was happening but its jus so dumb you can't press any directional keys BEFORE charging the skill so if you are about to charge a skill make sure you are standing completely still THEN charge
100% agree!. BTW: imo tab targeting works better if you use the priority option with only the last option selected, it still suck sometimes because it still have some priority, (and actually till the last time i played on korea this last option didin't worked, but should have been fixed because is been working on global since 1st day).
7:10 so true :D So many times charging up my focused firebomb while moving and my char randomly decide to climb up on a 1 pixel tall rock and cancelling my charge XD They have to re-think of collision with some environment object.
This drives me crazy! As staff/wand, when farming I position myself center of a mob for max aoe effect then smokescreen out but I end up targeting the edge of the pack only hitting a few. Earlier my party almost wiped because I was stuck in bird form in the nose dive position just hovering over the ground for almost 20 seconds. 4 players were at about 10% health by the time I was able to heal.
ah yes the infamous stratetic rush. i wanna push 2 melee enemys who are in front of me into 2 range enemys who are in range of the rush. my character dosnt move one of the melee enemys gets blown back 20m meters and the 2 ranges get stunned in the spot they stand on.
my issue is it keeps picking ppl behind me when im trying to push a back line. like nothing out of your fov should be in the target prio range its so janky
If this was the only issues... what about mouse buttons being inconsistent and not working on stupid situations. For example, if you mouse over almost anything in the UI, you won't be able to use a skill activated from a mouse button. Or a thumb scroll wheel (Logitech Mx Master 3), activating random skill.
Even old Everquest, with its ancient, 25 year old spaghetti coding, has better tab targeting today than this game. I totally agree with your frustration here Kanon! Also, you are so right about the graphic collision bugs. I can move through hundreds of players in the castle, but during siege I am blocked at times by my own allies. Yes, my guillotine locking up drives me crazy. Oh and dont forget the glitch hesitations when you go in and out of morphs. Hard to land on small spaces from flight because it doesn't respond. Not to mention the slow fall out of the sky at times. 😠
The dagger skill Frenzy sword dance some times only hits 1 to 3 times depending on the terrain instead of 7 along with the GS skills messing up. That really frustrates me!
what are u on about? You have to target even in "action" mode. I use it because im used to it from BnS and can with full confidence say it is worse than useless, it takes away your option to even be able to mouse click enemies and you have to rely on tabbing, which as we all know doesnt work.
@@SnowOnFireLP not sure what you're trying to say. I don't use tab at all when playing in action mode. I played ESO for years and action mode plays very similar to that game. You look at an enemy click them and attack. Can very easily swap between targets by flipping (looking) at who you want and clicking them. Game targeting feels flawless for me in that sense.
@@Jsmalls214 Except if you are a healer. Trying to click on your friendly target in the middle of an archboss battle or siege is like finding a needle in the haystack. :'D Otherwise in small scale action works fine for me as well.
my principal 3 problems, that did me drop this game ( playing from day 0) : 1-flashwave (should only cure ) 2-tornado (killed all the pvp) 3-target ( press the sheep shield!! and you pj move to the boss, for example)
1. It doesn't hit that hard. You have your own Flashwavers. 2. Build Collision resist lmao. It's preventable lmao. 3. Targeting is shit, yeah that's the main reason to quit.
I stopped using tab targeting in this game so long ago. It just doesn’t work sadly. Gotta make sure ‘target selection on mouse press’ and the option where it auto selects a target your mouse is over when you don’t have any active target is the only way I can play.
I have these exact issues aswell. it feels so clunky most of the time that I don't even want to engage in any pvp. When it matters most it fails catastrphically
I can't find a decent setting for targeting on the PS5. Maybe I'm missing something, but tab targeting on PC is at least better than targeting with the controller.
About the slides: I dont know how it is in NA but in EU Arena if I do tp/jump abilities I often jump to a spot that is off by meters and then slowly slide to the spot I should have jumped. By the time I do arrive there my target is not even stunned/binded even more and my Combo is broken. Arena in its current state is just unplayable for me.
Nowhere near as much of a problem as the stats from an alt bleeding through from your alt into your main and impacting your stat allocation. Insane how much damage increase you can get.
just disable "attacking player" priority if someone hits you from distance you will target them, that's why it doesn't go to the neareast one sometimes
The nameplate is also an object and if another player is 1mm closer to the camera the mouse click wiol hit that one. Since nameplates are just a plane (sprite, anpmane polygon alway oriented to the camera
they should allow maybe some mods or addons. it should also Highlight players that focus attack you and keep them tagged with a special color or circle for at least 15mins
I knew the targeting in this game was cooked when it released and default was click and release to target. Nobody in their right mind would ever consider that as a viable targeting option.
The sliding issue comes from ping. I had this issue twice only when I loggen in on my alt on NAW server im from EU and it happened on the tier 2 Boss the one where he puts the chain on you and goes in circles. Still happened after I died. Couldnt do skills anymore where I have to stand still for example the AOE heal
It’s similar on console. Your cursor will be just above the target in front of you and it’ll be targeting the one behind 😂 “target is too far away” and there’s just a lizard swinging directly in front of you. Plus the sheathing thing is hella annoying. You’ll just be standing there trying to heal equipping and unequipping the wand
yep, like 20% of the time in ZvZ I have no idea who my target even is when fighting, the tab is completely unpredictable and the marking isn't visible enough.
i get this on healer, i get a little messed up in a fight so i use ctrl+x to cancel all friendly targets and it should default to myself when I use a heal skill but no... it wants to heal the guy that isn't targeted anymore . then just to top it off three's no way to cancel that invisible target lock unless you run far away from the guy
Funny, this is one of the main reasons I quit playing 2 weeks after release. That and the way mobs stack AROUND your character frustrated me to the point of quitting.
Unfortunately this game will never be as optimized as L2 for mass PvP due to it being cross platform. Lineage 2 allowed like 40+ skill slots at one time, so in game macro’s was a mechanic they had implemented, allowing you to macro target by someone’s name. This was helpful for prepared parties that knew who they were going up against and who they needed to target. They at least have the “T” target feature in this game which targets your party leaders target, but it’s just not enough.
I had this feeling for quite a while but this video kinda brought me the "ffs i knew i wasn't insane, this is it!" realisation. It is very aggrevating even when just doing PvE content.. not even thinking about pvp where it is just even worse.
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The day they fix the clunky feeling of combat and make targeting smoother this will become the best FREE mmorpg out there
but by that time game will already be abandoned
I think you forgot about the ZvZ performance
Im rocking the best gaming cpu there is on the consumer market. 9800x3d with 64gb 6400mhz ram and a sapphire 6950xt nitro+ pure and my frames are ass on low settings
@@xYNPR0DUCTi0NS no one asked your pc spec
@@xYNPR0DUCTi0NS I have full AMD CPU and GPU, lower series than you a bit, I play on epic castle siege with 60 fps no issue whatsoever, so there is something wrong on your side unfortunately.
@@forfunchannel8126 Idk what to do, every fps in any game has skyrocketed for me. My CPU and RAM is overclocked, its only TnL that isnt working properly in Siege or any big scale fights
Dude u hit the nail right on the mark. It's a serious problem that driving me insane. Next to every freaking enemy has some sort of pull or stun.
console players ahve even worse :< cause the lack majority of target settingswe have on pc
I'm playing MMORPG Games 19 years, it's 2024 and I can't imagine who design game which force players to "click" their targets in PvP.
if you set up astral vision correctly, you don't have to click
@@historyaha why? i thought astral vision is just visual clarity
Your old school games didn't have 1000 players on screen. Old school games had instances fights, loading screens though areas and crashing when there were too many people. Targeting wasnt an issue because there wasnt that many targets. Astral vision solves the issues, learn to use it. That's how people are attacking people so fast after the decloak.
All games mmorpg is click on target i wonder which one is not
@@antesudar2647
I didn't say they aren't click to target but all games I played like Aion or WoW have both click and tab target and both work like intended
TnL is a tab target MMO where your only option is to mouse click...
What about the issue where your flying and then it just pulls you back lol. That shit be getting kicked out parties. Is that rubberbanding?
It’s so stupid and it kicks you out of morph mid air
@sumtingwoang trying to run 2 star dungeon for gaitan. And literally the miniboss was harder than final because you had to fly and it kept rubberbanding me. So fucked
@@humhum124 That platform is bugged u cant land on it most of the time.
But what u said is true about morphs rubber banding in general.
99% bellandir fight flying down from Vendors lookout
THANKS for addressing this problem it's so frustating... also, they should add an option to avoid clicking on friendly targets pls
100% this! I've tried everything to filter out friendly targets and no shot even in dungeons.
same like im a liberator and i would sometimes run heal longbow skill for myself i kinda mess up sometimes with self healing keybind and end up healing my teammate instead
The targeting issue is why I quit. With flash wave being the meta who needs to target when you just launch a projectile into a crowd. I mean screw everyone who isn’t using a bow that actually has to pick a priority target
As a flashwave andy, Id be much happier to target 1 priority target and chase him down. As using flashwave sure sounds easy unless:
- you fight at Kowazan and similar terrain and your flashwaves go to the space
- you need to go into the middle of 50 enemies to cast flashwave into the backline
- you get focused by 3 hooks and 5 gs/dg players
- you dont have a way out of stun, the CC gauge is full after 3rd CC from gs/dg (bind, 1 stun jump, 1 stun + slash) but you are dead
If you have a squad and guild which defends their bow users then its eazy peazy, as you can do just 20 flashwaves and wipe most guilds, sure.
@@forfunchannel8126 didn't they give bows additional mit on their passive?
@@marioharrer9999 you mean on the barrier? Sure it helps you survive once in 1 minute xd
Aint gonna save you from 2x 10k by full hp adentus gs/dg guillotine
Most likely the dumbest comment I ever saw
100% agree , all of them happened to me , it's really frustrating, now i kinda play just because i invested money already , but it really annoys me and at some point the frustration will outweigh the investment and will just quit. 😔
I noticed this after they removed hostile guilds.
I quit the game EXACTLY because of the things you outlined. I played SNS/GS and every time a deathblow would cancel and my character would slide, a little part of me died inside.
Nwow imagine how bad the targetting is on consoles
There are times when i cast my fireball on a target then when that target dies im stuck on my fireball chanelling animation for 10-15seconds
I'm gonna take a guess at least with the abomb example when you had 3 mobs... Its ordering characters from you. So you were targeting the middle one, the next one further out distance wise was back and to the left rather than the point blank one.
Personally i just use the astral vision... its gonna show me how the game is ordering 1-12 and i can just use that panel if needed. I also use it for raid healing... but speaking of that...
WHAT IN THE GOD DAM HELL DID THEY DO TO HEALING AND BUFF TARGETING. Its now forced as mouse over instead of using on yourself when you don't have a target... which is incredibly annoying for skills like Enchanting time where you really wanna buff yourself up and now require your cursor to fly into the sky.
100% agree with all of them! what about the issue where you use any of the GS or SNS dashes and you dash backwards instead of forward...
This... and oh boy if you want to use it in big GvG battle where u zoom out as much as possible and just some tree or pillar is in your corner or side view and play this as SNS GS tank :D
100% everything you said. Why play a game when the main content feels horrible
In Whelps stream on KR during Castle siege, Players defending inside are fishing during Castle siege 😂 unfortunately that might be the future for Global as well.
Yeah they need to focus on action cam. These are my woes, for the first month there was no option to drop friendly target and because tab only cycles through enemy targets you had to cancel action cam and click on yourself to heal yourself, they have added a cancel friendly target. It's still hard to manage targeting in action cam though you have to have two extra keybinds one for drop target and another to drop friendly target to effectively use ,and even then it's annoying the target hit box is not selectable through players or other mobs either....GW2 DID THIS RIGHT the should take a que from them
Dude! Yessssss! Since the beggining its maddening! As sns wand its a whole other level of awareness you have to have.
Spear dash skill and GS devastating smash showing "skill not ready" is the most annoying thing. It breaks combo
THis so true man, it always gives an error even if the target is within range. So frustrating..
I had alot issues with tab targeting of even click targeting it's brutal. Ppl will quit because of the targeting system it's impossible in siege. Gives me a target in Narnia instead of the person infornt of me. Is there anything we can do in settings or we all fked until they fix it?
Sadly Throne and liberty have issues which were solved at the end of the Vanilla WoW / Burning crusade start. Lazy Peon did video what he does not like about this game ... nothing of his points were solved. Plus he did not even mention Q block scripting, targeting and lack of raid groups to balance zerging guilds ...
NCSOFT Should just bring on "Team Bloodlust" from OG Blade and Soul.
Hands down, no MMO I have played since Aion 2.0 and Tera days has combat ecosystem and perfect as Blade and Soul.
From Targeting to Amination executions to hit boxes. They nailed it. NCSOFT best fork out the cash and resurrect those guys.
yes TERA please
Blade & Soul Neo Classic released on KR few months back, lets hope for EU release soon
same sht from a healers pov. especially when it comes to self healing and trying to cancel your current target lock. sometimes your abilites just dont even work. amazon never ceases to amaze me with how they come up with such a beautiful game and make a such cancer combat system they completely ignore and just keep pumping out updates and skins. smh
At least your not on console where we gotta use analog to move to the player or where we want to attack 😅
provided the reticule doesnt target somone miles off, or use lock on and get lucky that we get the person we want
This game is so bad on console wtf were they even thinking dropping it for us in this state lol
@@DeadbeatToji I’m pretty sure their focus was on Money
@ 100% that’s a dead give away. I’ve been F2P since the first battle pass but decided to buy lucent to make the build I was switching to faster. They held my lucent for 3 days but the money comes directly from my account 😂 idk if that’s the console method or what but it’s 3 days everytime I buy lucent now. Never done rmt it just happens and there is zero support response when filing a ticket. I assume they’ve made a shit ton of money now to where it won’t matter when this game dies soon i guess.
I am also on console and yes its not good on Controller but they already announced that they will ad m&k Support.
if clicking on character would actually work... but for some reason it selects and deselects the same target within a single click ...
Happened to me many times. Also I keep losing my targets in the middle of my combo
Finally someone said it that the tab targeting is worst right now and not workinh properly. I thought I am just high or trolling myself now I know its not.
Add the Arc boss loot stealing gleaders. 2 personal drops stolen by 2 dif guild leaders on 2 dif severs. Regardless what loot rules we have on discord greed overrides it and AGS aint gives a shit. Whaled at the start quit yesterday after bow my staff was stolen as well.
Never join a guild that has loot go through the guild bank.
@hirotakasugi4891 most hc guilds in all games have loot council or dkp and never heard a hc pvp guild w/o this type of looting in TnL
Yes it should be fixed. But I think the top 1 prio fix is the f*cking 1000% block script. SERIOUSLY.
alot of the t15 runners are block scripting too ontop of aridus glitch pepw
The problem is they designed a tab-targetting MMO in 2023/2024 which is kinda dated for the genre lmao.
Took me around 2 weeks to realize that this game have too many major issues to be a good PvP MMO
There will never be a good MASS PvP MMOs, especially not one where you can balance AoE vs Single Targeters. Only Ragnarok did it nicely but its because their system was nice.
Finally someone big in the community is talking about this. The target system is really bad, and in action mode is just impossible to play the game.
Mouse targeting is also pretty shitty :D I havent found option to NOT rotate camera with left mouse button...
True. It should be left click hold to continue to move
Honestly the healing skills and CD timers in this game are kind of trash. The variety and ability to handle the type of engagements in this game are trash. And they made it even worse when they put already shitty abilities on shared CD's. Absolute stupidity imo.
5:46 the same thing happens with spear dash ill be spamming the button and its like the game cant find a path to the target and ur character is just spazzing out trying to move
You hit one of the most serious issues with this game... The closest target COMPLETELY RUINS my melee gameplay.
Also they should implement left click hold drag to move.
TRUE! Targets work disgusting. They were bad from the start, but it was bearable, but after some update it felt like they were completely broken.
They should just make tab settings for targets selectable in settings like only target specific classes tank, dps, support
Yo this is a great idea and I would love that. I hate the meta where they throw all the tanks in the front and you can't find anyone to target who isn't a tank
@@SooMuchSmokeeif all the tanks are in the front the dps should be in the back, middle is gonna be the shitter tanks who are lost and backline normally has bow players and 1 tank and healer per party
there is plenty of worse things mainly all of the over geared players practically ruin any chance of fun in almost all pvp aspects of the game all new players find it boring and leave simply because no matter how skilled you are or what you block or how you outplay youll just get bulldozed by higher combat power'd gear and stats dont even get me started on how extremely broken and unchallenged the guild alliances are i mean i get there needs to be the rank 1 people but at the same time it feels unbelievably one sided and pointless to even participate and i completely understand why most leave the game
Hence i use action mode. It's quicker, feels good and cleaner, except i cant target far away.
u cant use this as healer or templar/paladin ... even as dps u want to target someone in backline or midline not the tanks in front..
@PageCZ agreed 👍
its not
@@PageCZ Game needs an target settings where you can filter where not to target if they have X weapon.
100% my biggest gripe in this game. Can't even click name plates either cause it's wonky as shit makes targeting even more frustrating... XD
Are the class ranking you did a few months ago still reliable for t2 and new mastery system coming out?
time to remove every movment ability from tanks and make them tanks thats what ur asking for
Is it true you cannot tab target a chinese ign?
If you think targetting on PC is bad, wait till you see how it is on console 💀
With the tabbing system you're proposing, the tab would always go to the same person every single time. It doesn't make sense that suddenly it tabs to some arbitrary dude that's kinda close I guess but not too close, but also depends on the moment. Either you want tab to tab through all available targets aka what it normally does or you want it to just lock on to the nearest target every time.
As bad as it is... I am actually somewhat comforted to know that it's everyone and not just me.
So true. I feel the exact same way. I've had wayyyyy too many times in arena where I'm trying to assassinate a target and my character just slides right back to where I was originally positioned.
whats the best target settings then
the gale thing, and the fucking SLIDE on charged Guillotine?! OH MY GOOODDD! Like I get that I'm already close to the boss so I don't have to 'rush in', but LET ME USE IT ANYWAYS! I want my ATTACK SPEED BUFF PLEASE AND THANK YOU NCSOFT GET WITH THE PROGRAM PLEASEEE!
You "Tab Targeted" directly to the main issue.
They need to use your code.
The slide glitch is the main reason I switched off Ravager. I figured out why it was happening but its jus so dumb you can't press any directional keys BEFORE charging the skill so if you are about to charge a skill make sure you are standing completely still THEN charge
100% agree!.
BTW: imo tab targeting works better if you use the priority option with only the last option selected, it still suck sometimes because it still have some priority, (and actually till the last time i played on korea this last option didin't worked, but should have been fixed because is been working on global since 1st day).
7:10 so true :D So many times charging up my focused firebomb while moving and my char randomly decide to climb up on a 1 pixel tall rock and cancelling my charge XD
They have to re-think of collision with some environment object.
This drives me crazy! As staff/wand, when farming I position myself center of a mob for max aoe effect then smokescreen out but I end up targeting the edge of the pack only hitting a few. Earlier my party almost wiped because I was stuck in bird form in the nose dive position just hovering over the ground for almost 20 seconds. 4 players were at about 10% health by the time I was able to heal.
I think the hit box on clicking is the more annoying than tab.
5:43 the same thing happens to me with charged fireballs not working
for charged fireballs, the workaround for me is to simply dodge roll, and the skill is good to use again...
Such a pain, but yeah, it works.
ah yes the infamous stratetic rush. i wanna push 2 melee enemys who are in front of me into 2 range enemys who are in range of the rush. my character dosnt move one of the melee enemys gets blown back 20m meters and the 2 ranges get stunned in the spot they stand on.
my issue is it keeps picking ppl behind me when im trying to push a back line. like nothing out of your fov should be in the target prio range its so janky
If this was the only issues... what about mouse buttons being inconsistent and not working on stupid situations.
For example, if you mouse over almost anything in the UI, you won't be able to use a skill activated from a mouse button.
Or a thumb scroll wheel (Logitech Mx Master 3), activating random skill.
next problem its a stuck many people on stairs in siege battle
Even old Everquest, with its ancient, 25 year old spaghetti coding, has better tab targeting today than this game. I totally agree with your frustration here Kanon!
Also, you are so right about the graphic collision bugs. I can move through hundreds of players in the castle, but during siege I am blocked at times by my own allies.
Yes, my guillotine locking up drives me crazy.
Oh and dont forget the glitch hesitations when you go in and out of morphs. Hard to land on small spaces from flight because it doesn't respond. Not to mention the slow fall out of the sky at times. 😠
The dagger skill Frenzy sword dance some times only hits 1 to 3 times depending on the terrain instead of 7 along with the GS skills messing up. That really frustrates me!
6:08 this happens ALL the time with wand spells! Clay's Salvation and the Shield ability lol
Depends where the mouse is pointing
@Kanon is tevent GS still BIS after T2 release?
Does no one use action mode? It's so much fun and there is no issue with things like this...
what are u on about? You have to target even in "action" mode.
I use it because im used to it from BnS and can with full confidence say it is worse than useless, it takes away your option to even be able to mouse click enemies and you have to rely on tabbing, which as we all know doesnt work.
@@SnowOnFireLP not sure what you're trying to say. I don't use tab at all when playing in action mode. I played ESO for years and action mode plays very similar to that game. You look at an enemy click them and attack. Can very easily swap between targets by flipping (looking) at who you want and clicking them. Game targeting feels flawless for me in that sense.
@@Jsmalls214 Except if you are a healer. Trying to click on your friendly target in the middle of an archboss battle or siege is like finding a needle in the haystack. :'D Otherwise in small scale action works fine for me as well.
my principal 3 problems, that did me drop this game ( playing from day 0) :
1-flashwave (should only cure )
2-tornado (killed all the pvp)
3-target ( press the sheep shield!! and you pj move to the boss, for example)
1. It doesn't hit that hard. You have your own Flashwavers.
2. Build Collision resist lmao. It's preventable lmao.
3. Targeting is shit, yeah that's the main reason to quit.
@@hirotakasugi4891 you are iventing things to have reason. i can explain you point by point but not sense waste my time to who no want to see the true
@ because you can’t lmao. Cop out.
@@hirotakasugi4891 nico otaku furry kid name bro
I stopped using tab targeting in this game so long ago. It just doesn’t work sadly.
Gotta make sure ‘target selection on mouse press’ and the option where it auto selects a target your mouse is over when you don’t have any active target is the only way I can play.
Now that kanon said it , i give it 2 weeks max Tico addresses this issue with an update :D
I have these exact issues aswell. it feels so clunky most of the time that I don't even want to engage in any pvp. When it matters most it fails catastrphically
I can't find a decent setting for targeting on the PS5. Maybe I'm missing something, but tab targeting on PC is at least better than targeting with the controller.
About the slides: I dont know how it is in NA but in EU Arena if I do tp/jump abilities I often jump to a spot that is off by meters and then slowly slide to the spot I should have jumped. By the time I do arrive there my target is not even stunned/binded even more and my Combo is broken. Arena in its current state is just unplayable for me.
Nowhere near as much of a problem as the stats from an alt bleeding through from your alt into your main and impacting your stat allocation. Insane how much damage increase you can get.
The clunky movement feel and awful targeting. Big true.
ive been wanting to try a new MMO, any suggestions? and if there are any upcoming ones that sounds interesting
None. Stick to this slop or BDO. or play POE2. No good MMO will come out in a while.
Electric slides off the fucking map 🤣🤣
Relateable.
just disable "attacking player" priority
if someone hits you from distance you will target them, that's why it doesn't go to the neareast one sometimes
The nameplate is also an object and if another player is 1mm closer to the camera the mouse click wiol hit that one. Since nameplates are just a plane (sprite, anpmane polygon alway oriented to the camera
Never heard about tab targeting on my Flashwave.
It's because this game has no idea where your character is vs where you see it. The "slide while casting" and rubber banding is insane.
they should allow maybe some mods or addons. it should also Highlight players that focus attack you and keep them tagged with a special color or circle for at least 15mins
Im calling it, target selection in TL actually requires skill 😎😎😎
I knew the targeting in this game was cooked when it released and default was click and release to target. Nobody in their right mind would ever consider that as a viable targeting option.
The sliding issue comes from ping. I had this issue twice only when I loggen in on my alt on NAW server im from EU and it happened on the tier 2 Boss the one where he puts the chain on you and goes in circles. Still happened after I died. Couldnt do skills anymore where I have to stand still for example the AOE heal
Yeah the slide happens alot with spear. So annoying.
eu estou nesse ponto de insatisfacao tambem. prestes a parar de jogar.
I feel a combination between action and classic when you are using classic, the TAB target goes to wherever my camera is pointing
It’s similar on console. Your cursor will be just above the target in front of you and it’ll be targeting the one behind 😂 “target is too far away” and there’s just a lizard swinging directly in front of you. Plus the sheathing thing is hella annoying. You’ll just be standing there trying to heal equipping and unequipping the wand
yep, like 20% of the time in ZvZ I have no idea who my target even is when fighting, the tab is completely unpredictable and the marking isn't visible enough.
i get this on healer, i get a little messed up in a fight so i use ctrl+x to cancel all friendly targets and it should default to myself when I use a heal skill but no... it wants to heal the guy that isn't targeted anymore .
then just to top it off three's no way to cancel that invisible target lock unless you run far away from the guy
Funny, this is one of the main reasons I quit playing 2 weeks after release.
That and the way mobs stack AROUND your character frustrated me to the point of quitting.
This is beyond annoying. I'll be trying to target a dungeon mob in front of me and the game will select a guy BEHIND ME across the map.
A solution should be to tab target the nearest enemy player in front of you
the dominion events where if u have custom targeting, u cant target friends or alliance members on opposite teams that shi annoying asl
Unfortunately this game will never be as optimized as L2 for mass PvP due to it being cross platform. Lineage 2 allowed like 40+ skill slots at one time, so in game macro’s was a mechanic they had implemented, allowing you to macro target by someone’s name. This was helpful for prepared parties that knew who they were going up against and who they needed to target. They at least have the “T” target feature in this game which targets your party leaders target, but it’s just not enough.
This is EXACTLY why i play action cam in this game lmao
I had this feeling for quite a while but this video kinda brought me the "ffs i knew i wasn't insane, this is it!" realisation. It is very aggrevating even when just doing PvE content.. not even thinking about pvp where it is just even worse.
At least on PC you can click, try on console when surrounded. Like playing the lottery
The ability stutter! I die so much to the ability stutter or being animation locked on a charge attack that wont go off.
the day I started playing Throne and liberty this was the first thing i thought about. I knew i wasn't the only one who thought it was shit