DONT WASTE MONEY ON A JOINTER! do this instead
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In this video, I'll show you an easy process to mill rough lumber perfectly flat WITHOUT the need for a jointer!
Jointers are expensive and with my inadequate power in the apartment garage, I really can't buy a jointer that would do much of anything useful. Because of that, this is the simple method that I use to make sure I can mill my boards perfectly flat without owning a jointer.
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That twisted sister clip was unexpected and funny. Lol
I like to keep people on their toes 😀
Hi came across your channel a few days ago and enjoy your videos. One thing I noticed is your using the planer sled the wrong way around. The stop block should be at the front as the drive force from the rollers goes through the workpiece into the sled, pushing the sled forward. A little wax also helps on the planer base and sled bottom also. Keep up the great work I admire your passion and desire to become a full time content creator.
Ok so I wasn’t the only one questioning that! Thank you, I used a sled about a month back and you’re right, it stopped the sled under and pushed the piece over and out…. Pushing the playing cards I used as shims into the words biggest paper shredder like some awful magic trick.
But yeah, definitely at the front thank you for confirming for me too
What would be the purpose of the stop block being in the front? What is it stopping at that point? Sincere question.
Hey Homie, in the past when I’ve done the sled, you have the base of the sled inside the jointer sliding across the bottom with a bit of friction (apparently a paste/wax can help reduce that) and the rollers at the top that are pretty strong, they’ll push the piece down and roll it through forward.
When you combine those 2, the sled dragging or catching on the bed and the rollers pushing the piece through, it can detach from the sled, the sled becomes basically the bed of the planer and is stuck/stays still and the work piece slides across the top of the sled from the force of the rollers.
So if you put the stop at the front right against the work piece, the work piece will push the sled through with it and shouldn’t be able to detach so easily (if at all)
Hope that helps mate, I’ve had a few detach and it’s really frustrating because you need to re-level and re-shim it all.
Great tutorial video. Concise and to the point with a dash of humour here and there. 👌 Also, I feel like the background music worked really well to set the tone/vibe of this video. Keep it up, Eric.
Thanks so much for the kind words, matthys!
No secret word we have to type in the comment? I’m not used to that! But great video! I used that same trick to flatten some cutting boards I made, because, I don’t have a 12” jointer or a drum sander. I also love to use melamine, not only because the glue comes off it easily, but also because melamine stays flat, where plywood can warp. And melamine is cheap too! And I also love that Ryobi hot glue gun! Most people don’t really the difference between a corded and cordless glue gun till they actually get one! I love this method for anything bigger than my little 6” benchtop jointer! Great video!
Haha this was a pretty old video that I just got around to publishing. Way before I was doing the secret word thing
I love how the straight edge just happened to be short enough to miss the snipe at both ends LOL
Shouldn’t you feed with the stopper fence end first? The planer rollers are pulling the wood, not the sled. If the glue came undone, the fence wouldn’t serve any purpose.
Thought the same thing as soon as I saw it
The fence is to prevent the blades from shooting the piece back
I may very well work with wood that is just as messed up as in the video. Thanks for the clear explanation!
This is fine for small boards but when you have to mill 8’ pieces of 2” stock running it through the planer 6-8 times is too much work. When you take the setup time into account, even more so. I can do it in half the time with a jointer. Two big pieces of furniture and the jointer is paid for.
Great stuff! I neglected to use a sled with my planer on my last project and paid the price later with hours of sanding. Thanks for the tips!
Sure thing!
I'm not sure why I found your home made warped boards so hilarious!
I figured it was an accurate depiction of what people find at the home center 😂
Great video! Hold on to your butts is my favorite phrase to use as a network engineer
🤣 that Jurassic park clip is a classic!!
Thanks, using hot glue to act as and stabilise shims... So obvious when pointed out. Appreciate this tip 👊
That’s an awesome way to take care of boards like that. Great video as always brother!
Thanks man! I appreciate the support!
Love the example board!
Excellent job of showing the entire process. I've been looking to create a similar jig, just need the hot glue. Glad to know that HF sells them for $2, so I'll check them out.
The hot glue works great!
For the leveling process where you used the thin off cut pieces, I can see using cabinet wedges. Just a thought.
Awesome video! Show how the wood warps drastically when it dries
Yup! It definitely does warp if the wood gets wet and then dries
Great video! How much are you removing on each pass? Also, are you using stock blades?
Instead of doing the hot glue on the bottom of the wood put the board flat than put a couple dabs of glue around the edges and along the shims. It made it alot easier to get the planed board off as well as getting the glue off the wood.
Good tip Richard! Any projects you’d like to see me do in the future?
Might need to add a planer to my shop tool list, thank you for the great tip.
They’re mighty handy to have! Thanks for watching, Jesse!
I like to use a combination of wood shims and playing cards. Playing cards for the gaps that are a little too narrow for my shims. I luv this technique, but have been using a torsion box MDF sled--super heavy, but effective. Now I'm wondering if a single sheet of melamine would be fine and save my lower back. Any issues with flattening four foot long boards with your method?
Hi Eric, I came across your videos multiple times and it was always great stuff, but I really hit subscribe button carefully to not be overwhelmed by too much information, BUT I smashed that button during this video because it's very good content it's fun a you add a lot of side information in every video so I just want to say that you are doing great job and thank you for all of that 👍
Dee Snider. Made up my own secret word to let you know that I watched the whole video! :) I've got an 8 inch jointer (tabletop), but I use this method for boards between 8+ to 12 inches. Works great, good video. :)
Haha I appreciate the secret code word, Lawrence!
Love it thank you!
Feel like you could mitigate the removal of glue step by first laying down tape to the underside and then doing the glue, though..? I could be saying something stupid, too lol…idk just an initial thought I had when watching.
Nonetheless, thank you!
Nice video, but I'm pretty sure you fed the sled in backward. The only reason your board didn't shoot through is bcz of the hot glue. I know this from trial and error.
Nacho! Such a smart idea!!
Good info. Thanks and a LIKE. BUT the music bed…yikes. A cassette from 1983 that had been left on the dash of your car…in the sun? The warbly trumpet/keyboard made me sad. 😆
Thanks for watching!
damn that is the most twisted board I've seen using this type of jig!!!
what do you think about using blue painter's tape on each piece then the hot glue inbetwren? so you don't have to rip the glue off the wood and melamine
Yup, you definitely could do that!
Now that you have milled "that" board dead flat, you can go up to the dust collector and empty it. 🙂
Hi Eric sir love the video lots information
It depends on the area. If you wanna built quality stuff, you have to have a jointer since any other way is not within the quality standards, unless you sell it in the US, the only Western Country with no standard set. But then again, you would lose out on a lot of money.
Great explanation man! I really wish someone would come up with a machine that was a planer and jointer in one. Of course I have no idea how you'd ever make that work, but I'm sure someone can figure it out haha.
Thanks, Zac! They actually do have a machine that does that, but I think it’s only available in a super large scale lumber production factory
@@SpencleyDesignCo Hammer has one that is like 10" or 12" planer/jointer combo. Keith Johnson has one of those. If I'm not mistaken, I believe he said on his podcast that he prefers the rubber rollers over the metal ones his planer/jointer has, but the biggest thing for that machine is saving space.
Yup! Those combo units are fairly common. I wasn’t sure if Zac meant a machine that does both cuts at once, because those are a little tougher to come by
There is such a thing
It's called a four sided planer
Have you had any problems running that dewalt planer with shelix cutter head on a 15 amp circuit?, I saw on a ToolBoxBuzz video that they recomend a 20 amp circuit because of the amp draw
I have not had any issues with it
Amp draw is less with a helical head.
how much do you remove per pass?
It doesn’t matter, however much your planer is capable of doing
@@SpencleyDesignCo i have the same planner, was just curious what you preference is in general.
Probably about a half turn, but depends on how wide the board is
You can reuse hot glue?? @4:45
The way the timber prices are you might have to start working with timber that bad great tip anyway thanks
Thanks for watching, Bradley!
I don't understand why people use a table saw instead of cutting by hand. And why do people drive places in a car when they could just walk? I've used this technique for a similar issue, but that doesn't mean that there's no reason to own a jointer.
Awesome vid, as always
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
How do you know?
Well you did ask.
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FFS get a jointer! Way more important than a planer.
With the wood he was flattening, a jointer wouldn't be a good idea. No way you could hold it flat to the bed in the same position every time through. And not everyone has room for a jointer in their shop or budget. If forced to chose, I'll take a planer over a jointer any day. As would the overwhelming majority of woodworkers/hobbiests.
@@cityfiedredneck6841 actually it wouldn’t be difficult at all. What’s the point of woodworking if you can’t properly mill material? Unless, of course the point is to use and show off your tools rather than your end product.
@@mattschreiber4251 My thought? What does it matter how one gets to a finished product. As long as the finished product meets his/her standards. People have made awesome things over the last several thousand years without the use of a jointer. And as far "properly milling" material, the end result was 2 parallel sides at a desired thickness. The other sides can be made perpendicular with a table saw. How is that not "proper"? Just trying to understand where you're coming from.
@@cityfiedredneck6841 The cornerstone of quality woodworking is milling. To tell someone not to get a jointer because you can get by with just a lunchbox planer is poor advice when you are being looked to as an expert in the craft. Of course people have built for ages with out jointers, but whet they used prior is a jointer plane. Yes you can do it this way and get passable results. But to pass yourself off as an expert, then advise against jointers and bandsaws (as in another video) is poor advice. If James Krenov advocates for a jointer over a tablesaw, there must be something to it. I don’t know a single accomplished woodworker, hobbyists, or professional that doesn’t have a jointer. It is an essential machine that should come before a planer.
@Matt Schreiber I'm thinking you don't know all that many "hobbyists" or folks just starting out. I don't know that many. Maybe 4 or 5. And several accomplished woodworkers. Not one of the ones starting out have jointers. Not sure who this Krenov fella you speak of is to be honest. Is he the rule maker on what one needs to flatten a board? And what kind of world would we live in if someone who's lesser of a Krenov couldn't tell others how to accomplish a task IF one doesn't own the entire Krenov list of tools and equipment?
you are just too cute!
That’s what my grandma always says!
@@SpencleyDesignCo ……🤣🤣
Grandma has never steered me wrong 😀
@@SpencleyDesignCo ……….GOD bless grandmas!! ❤️
Don’t forget about grandpas!
The fact that you had to make a warped board for this speaks volumes - of your inexperience. What experience do you have in woodworking other than the school of UA-cam ?
dude that's what a burn pile is for. Get a wood burning shop heater and use better wood. I hate to think what you are doing to good equipment.