The "no respawn" feature sounds interesting on paper, but on the flip side, I get the impression that they've made accidents not really punitive anymore. In the first game, crashing into a wall would blow up your pod, and that made the races feel very brutal. In this sequel, even running straight into a wall just slows the ship down. I constantly felt like I was playing a bumper car.
Pretty sure they did that as an anti-frustration measure. EP1 Racer had SUPER complex tracks with lots of tight turns and hazards, but almost no combat aspects what so ever. Revenge added more in-depth combat features to the game, but because you had to contend with opponents actually trying to take you out and you couldn't respawn, they were likely concerned that if your pod exploded as easily on impact with a course element the game would be too unforgiving. Keep in mind that while crashing in EP1 Racer was a guaranteed explosion, the game would just simply respawn you with s.
This was my first ps2 game and i always likes it more than the first game on dreamcast/N64. Mainly because you can switch to the "pro style controls" so that each analoge stick resembles one engine. If you push both sticks forward you accelerate, if you push one forward and pull the other stick back, you are able to take hard turns. Definately a nice control sheme🙂
I liked it when I was young. I had never and still have yet to play episode 1 racer but I have it on my Xbox from Gold before it ended. Going back now I would probably not enjoy the game but when I was a kid who loved star wars this game scratched the itch I played a lot of this game.
I feel the need to point out that although Sebulba's engines sound different, they also look different. It's possible they changed the sounds because the engines are meant to be an updated model.
You can get Young Sebulba when you finish Sebulba's campaign. I unfortunately will break it you...it's the same sound still. likely just copied the sound over to save disc space.
Bladed Angel That doesn't necessarily make the idea false. They may have just gotten lazy with young sebulba or something. It's still entirely possible that Sebulba's pod sounds different due to being newer. After all, you can still hear it chugging, but the chug is lighter and faster, almost sounding cleaner and more efficient in a sense, which is what you'd want from a newer model of an old engine template. If they were TRULY lazy, they'd copy the sound file from the first game or make all the pods sound the same.
I agree with most of what you said. I love the no respawn feature, the crashes, etc. But the AI is almost lifeless and the rubber banding is crazyyyyy in this game. Also, Sebulba's pod didn't sound that off imo.
Ahh, man it’s a shame this game turned out to be so bland. Because the first game had areas that could use some improvement. But regardless I enjoyed the review. Honestly my most disappointing game sequel is probably Sly 4. I felt it didn’t understand the tone of the series and mishandled the characters and redesigns a lot. And while Sly 1-3 had memorable villains, I remember none from 4. I could talk about that game for hours lol
I've heard that about Sly 4! I think they changed developers? Probably why. My most disappointing sequel has to go to The Getaway: Black Monday. Bland gunplay, mediocre story and forced stealth sections! Argh!
tight turns and corners isn't a flaw in this title, there is a reason the power slide mechanic was added which was never used within this footage presented in this review, smacking corners or touching walls do drastically reduced speed as a penalty. progression of your upgraded pod racer is more noticeable nearing the end of the tournament and having a lead is common as in the older title, notable differences is that your looking at a lead of 5-30 seconds instead of +1mins. watto shop getting the chomping block is a SHAME. reason being is probably bc the tracks have been cut in half, in turn less credits earned to upgrade your pod. upgrades can be downgraded at a reduced return to upgrade other mods but its not recommended. Maps are more static is this title and offer no dynamic environment dangers, reason being IMO whomever worked on this title was influence by Star Wars Podracer ARCADE controls, tucked away in the control settings both analog sticks can function like tank controls just like how a real pod racer would operate, which in turn watered down and eliminated the possibility of having Roll, Pitch and Yaw like controls assigned to the Right stick, which does absolutely NOTHING. Being able to knock out other podracers is a nice addition, notably heaver and bigger looking pods do considerately more amount of damage upon impact at the cost of being less mobile and more likely to smack into walls and vice versa with their smaller pod counterparts. End Game unlockable pod racers have a similar feel of speed to the older game which were not mentioned or played in this review, characters such as Sebulba Episode 1, Young Anakin , Watto or better yet Darth Maul and Vader. All in all the game's innovation was crippled by a gimmick
I don't know if this is just me missing something, but I also found it was unclear exactly what the controls were. I *think* I found the repair button, but there wasn't really any indication if or when I was actually repairing, or how much difference it made. Like, I worked out which button accelerates, and how to turn, but that's really it. I played two tracks, which I won with seemingly way too much ease, and then I switched games. I never really got the feeling that there was much power behind the racers either. *I played it on a PS2 emulator for PC.
Yeah you're right, it sorta just throws you right into the game with zero indication of controls, mechanics, etc. I've noticed over the years a lot of these older games didn't give you a tutorial, because the instructions and your introduction were shown in the manuals. But yeah, you're completely right about the lack of difficulty.
you make a lot of valid criticisms, but i’ll always be biased in loving this game. i spent countless hours with my brother and childhood best friend trying to 100% this game as well as the original N64 version. great video!
I heard that they were gonna include three courses from Coruscant and a third track from both Ryloth and Sullust. It’s bummer that they were cut. I don’t hate this game personally, I respect your views and opinions on this game. I think this is a decent enough good Podracing game, especially when special characters like Darth Maul and Watto are racers in that game. I also liked that visuals and models on the pods are overhauled, but I do agree that the Episode 1 Racer feel wasn’t there. And when you listen to the files, I don’t know where you would find them, you can tell they were gonna do a lot more with this game if it had more time in development instead of rushing it to release it on a certain time.
Thank you for the comment, that's a real shame they cut content. Maybe other aspects of the game were also rushed to get it out on time, either way its a real shame. I would've loved to see that Episode I feel with newer visuals and an expanded roster of characters and tracks.
they don't want you to race. they want you to fight. so the rubber-banding is nuts. you're way ahead while boosting, and then another racer just teleports and "sticks" to you. Once you notice that speed doesn't matter, you start to wonder why you're even playing.
I just want someone to find all the old devs for Split/Second and give them the rights to a new podracing game. I personally think Split/Second is one of the best racing games ever. The cars felt real, way more than any NFS game but without feeling boring like in Gran Tourismo. The sound design and music was fantastic. If that dev team had made a podracing game everyone would have shit themselves.
Don’t forget you can unlock five hidden characters in this game, and this is the order you’d want to unlock them in; first you’d want to unlock Sebulba ( Episode 1 with his original pod designs from the movie ), Darth Maul, Watto, Young Anakin ( with original designs for his pod from the movie ), and Darth Vader.
Personally, I hard disagree. After the original Battlefront 2 this is my favorite game of all time. I have hundreds if not thousands of hours in this game over my lifetime. The KO system is so cool, the first game completely lacks that added sense of fun. If you like racing more, then you'd prefer the first one. If you like more action (imo), then you'd prefer the sequel.
They made racer back-compatible for the xbox one and it's still how I remember it and enjoyed it. Never played the sequel and never knew one existed until now.
@@Z64bit yeah guess that true, I havnt played racer since the days of the n64 and today. Glad they thought to bring it back. Now I just need to find the sequel 🤣
This was the second game I ever got for my PS2, and even my 12-year-old self with very low standards found it disappointing. It lacked the ludicrous sense of speed that the first one had, along with the sense of danger. You could crash into something at high speed or grind a wall all the way through a turn, and just bounce off and hold repair. The races felt less like navigating a jet-powered death machine at high speed and more like playing bumper cars with your 8 year old cousin. And you HAD to play aggressively if you wanted to max the paycheck so you could get fully upgraded. In addition, a large number of the podracers from the previous game did NOT return, including many from the original Boonta Eve race, namely: Elan Mak, Ebe Endocott, Boles Roor, & Ark Roose. Ratts Tyrell and Neva Kee did not return, but they were technically dead, so this makes a bit more sense (but so was Wan Sandage, and he came back for this sequel...). NONE of the Episode 1 Racer pods that were not featured in the movie returned, which was disappointing (Bullseye Navior, Slide Paramita, Fud Sang, Toy Dampner, Bozzie Baranta, Cy Yunga, or Jinn Reeso). Graphics looked nice for the time, and some of the new pods were cool, but that was about it. Given how popular the original game still is to this day, they really could have made something great but bungled it hard.
I am trying to think of how to make sebulba's machine sound good. I feel like even the sound they have in this game gets a bit... drone-y, and making it louder and punchier would sorta drown out other sounds important to gameplay and just become annoying for minutes on end. Plus, the really cool sound from the movie was punctuated by how brief those moments were and the severe doppler effect as the machine passed the "camera" at such speeds.
Yeah, I don't like the sequel. Especially since I didn't get to play it until I was an adult when it came out on ps4. I'll still do a race here and there, but I favor episode 1 racer by far. However, if they did a remaster of the 2, I'd favor ep1 racer more, but I'd be ok with them adding the ep 1 hidden racers plus I don't mind the racer revenge racers being added. To spice up ep 1 racer. Especially the maul and Vader hidden racers haha.
Late to the party, but Fighting Force 2 has got to be the worst sequel I've ever experienced by a country mile. They aren't even the same genre of game.
One of the most disappointing sequel for me was Destruction Derby Arenas. I mean, DDRaw was so cool on the PS1, it had awesome tracks, solid gameplay, nice cars and a lot of replay value and it was followed by a game like looked like a toy car game made by rookies.
i atually prefer each racer having their own career mode, but i do agree that they become very samey once you upgrade them. It would be nice if each racer also had a different maximum level in all the stats, so even once they become OP they feel different. Maybe even giving them all a special ability or maneuver could help them feel unique (sebulba having a flamethrower, aldar beedo making extra money for knocking out other racers, etc)
I really wish we get a Nintendo Switch port for Racer Revenge one day, as I've never played it. I have Ep. 1 Racer on the Switch port, so getting the sequel would be brilliant.
While Episode 1 Racer does allow respawning, the droids will not repair any damaged parts should you crash once. I figured this out because I used to buy damaged parts and flip them after every race.
Wouldn't recommend this to anybody? No improvments over the first game? Surely you're being a bit too harsh there. As disappointing as it may be when compared to the N64 title, it's still a good game to own if you have a PlayStation 2.
just randomly came across your video and what curious if you ever got the additional *Secret* racers after your playthrough? you didnt talk about them in your video so i was just curious. (Like episode 1 sebulba as an example ) not just current time one
My vote for disappointing sequel has to go to the Force Unleashed 2. Force Unleashed was fantastic - I had it on the Wii, so it felt better than other consoles imo, because the control for attacking was actually swinging the wiimote around, and using the nunchuck to force push and such. I got FU2 on the Wii as well, but it felt awful and it was just button inputs to attack instead of motion controls, and it felt really watered down. One level is basically a corridor on Dagobah and thats it.
I came looking to see if others were as disappointed as I was. The original is still amazing. But I turned Revenge off after 3 races. Also didn't see my boy, Ebe Endecott
Played this game just now and i also easily beat it in an hour never finishing less than first. Still got my ps2 copy from back in the day but game does feel like you are not in any danger of losing. Lack of a difficulty setting and difficulty in general severely drags the game down. I give it a generous 7/10 because nostalgia.
Never played, but watching your footage, it looks like all the racers are going slower. Way less impact. Turning should inherently be more sharp. A podracer is basically a glorified chariot. The engines are tethered, but free floating, so, guess what if you slow the left one down compared to the right one? Physics would swing the whole vehicle to the left pretty dang quick. They should have really QA’d the controls better.
well what the video op leaves out (and a lot of people don't get) is EP1 racer was actualy made in same gen as racer revenge. the game was designed for PC and Dreamcast . the game making it on n64 ahd to be severy dowgraded . (frame rate textures ect.ect. ) the dream cast is same gen as PS2 albeit the PS2 had mosty better hardware as it came a year after the DC. the dreamcast was the first console of that generation though. and in some respects by the time the PS2 came out dreamcast was well into it's growing phase so games on it were lookiing better and better while devs were still learning PS2 hardware. that said the PS2 was only a little bit more powerful that the DC and to unlock it's potential you had to really know the system's software and coding. so yeah if you played ep 1 racer on PC or Dreamcast , you really didn't see much upgrade with racer's revenge visually. however if you played the n64 port ... yeah it would have been night and day better.
I loved the sequel. It wasn't perfect and it was less a of a finesse focused racer, but it captured the scum & villainy element perfectly with the cheating/combat system.
@@NoMooreMercyTV It’s why I love both! They each offer something a little different. Wouldn’t it be so sick to get a third one though?! A modern pod racer game in frostbite or UE5 is pretty damned close to the top of my “please, just once before I die” list.
The modern port of the first game is free this month with Xbox Live! I just beat it today and it was _way_ better than I thought it'd be. That said, it sucks the sequel got a poor treatment. Especially since _WipEout_ is exclusive to PlayStation as well! They're the king of antigrav racing games (imo), so, why'd they'd phone it in on WipEout's home turf is beyond me.
The first game is soooo good, they put this one (Revenge) on PS Plus Premium but it's really not great. I'm glad you Xbox guys have the first one to enjoy, since Nintendo seems deadset on keeping F-Zero dead and PS is the same way with Wipeout
@@NoMooreMercyTV A new Wipeout and a new (good) Killzone. That's what I want to see for PS. I had hope that Halo Infinite was going to be the next coming of FPS christ, which, while it had the potential, was obviously misplaced. Titanfall is dead.. so.. _theoretically_ Killzone could have a shot. That said, after playing E1R and looking at RR's gameplay.. BOY does it look rank by comparison. I did the junkyard manipulation thing to get over 100,000 truguts, so I've got max upgrade pods. It's been a trip trying to set new track times.
Shame really, I'm such a huge pod racing fan and wish there was more media surrounding it. This is one game I've never tried partially cause I keep forgetting it exists. I looked it up today as to maybe push myself to check it out. Found your video and....eh....think I may pass. Original game is so good. I wish the mechanics of the first game were present in the aesthetics of Revenge. Anyway, found your channel because this! Subbed! Ganna binge your videos now lol
Yeahhhh it's a real bummer about the game, maybe we'll get a proper third game that does it justice. Honestly I'd settle for a remaster of the first, imagine how good it'd look with modern tech! And thank you for the sub! Hope you enjoy the rest of my videos :)
@@NoMooreMercyTVYes! The speed was off! I also think that more "sharpness" in old games is not always better... the first game looked more realistic somehow... GTA SA looked better on ps2 as on pc because the washed out look felt more "real" somehow lol
So, regarding sound, honestly what makes the sound so good in the actual scene in TPM is the "redshift" effect on the sound. What you hear in the game is what the pilot would hear sitting behind those engines the whole race.
Felt the rogue squadon sequels were progressively more underwhelming. Rogue leader was a visual upgrade but worse from a game play standpoint. There were less missions of lower quality. There was no sense skill progression where skills are developed and tested over the course of the missions. Most missions are designed with only one ship in mind which reduces replayability and experimentation. The missions were overly dark, turret are hard to distinguish and hit, and the targeting computer which compensates for the visual problems activity counts against your gold medal rank teaching you not to use it. The x-wing is surprisingly a poor dog fighter as it's firing spread is wider than the tie fighter's silhouette. A lot of ties have annoying ai where they scatter if you shoot the wrong one in a squad or activity crash into you. Rebel strike is essentially the same game as rogue leader but with half the missions being bad 3rd person shooters, or walker/speeder bike missions. The flight sim missions you do get are very lacking and arguably weaker than the last game. The only really redeemable part of rebel strike is the re-creation of rogue leader as a multi player and the other multi player modes.
I remember it! But I was a kid then... it was Abyss. I think it was Race 4-2 on selection, and the favorite pilot there was Bozzie Baranta. You had to choose the upper route and be careful to not falling to the lower route. What was actually funny about it: if you stayed on that route, the IA wouldn't take it, or would quickly fall up the corners while trying to do so. But if you weren't close enough to keep an eye on them, they'd sure as hell take it and surpass you! So, the IA kept that route in secret for me many times until I found out what was happening. Awesome times!!
most disappointing video game sequel? Dragon Age 2 was such a huge downgrade in every aspect compared to the first. It was just a rushed game. The first one is a 9/10 in my book, maybe 10/10. The second is like a 4/10. Also, Supreme Commander 2. The first game was a grandiose RTS with an emphasis on macro-management. For the sequel, they committed to making the game more playable/accessible to those playing on console, with a controller. How? By Dumbing down everything. Subsequently, the franchise and the devs went under.
The first was more fun when you did the RRDUAL cheat and used two N64 controllers. What Racer Revenge did better was to incorporate the DualShock sticks as a default scheme.
My man…you can’t create a diss track on this game and be riding around as anakin. The point of the game is to unlock new vehicles, which becomes harder each time (most KO’s, best lap time, best race time). If the furthest unlock youve got is Sebulba, you’ve effectively completed the tutorial level, and have completed maybe 20% of the actual game. Consider learning the game and giving it a further chance-what you’ll find is as engaging and in some ways better that Episode 1 Racer.
Kingdom hearts 3 was ass. Bunch of fans just blind on what a bad game it was . Nobody wants to admit it. But look at the downgrade from kh2 to kh3 I wanted my money back I was so disappointed. Immediately played kh2 just to not hate it.
I also didn't like KH3, I had just played through most of the games, at least the ones in the collection, and it didn't click for me like some of the others. Idunno, maybe I was just burned out on the series.
I pray for a podracer game that does the sport justice
I want enormous gigantic tracks, good AI, a temperature, fuel and repair system
This game was the shit.
Add in character / pod creation and it'd be a game changer IMO.
Don't forget the part damage and repair systems as well as the used parts market.
The "no respawn" feature sounds interesting on paper, but on the flip side, I get the impression that they've made accidents not really punitive anymore.
In the first game, crashing into a wall would blow up your pod, and that made the races feel very brutal. In this sequel, even running straight into a wall just slows the ship down. I constantly felt like I was playing a bumper car.
Pretty sure they did that as an anti-frustration measure. EP1 Racer had SUPER complex tracks with lots of tight turns and hazards, but almost no combat aspects what so ever. Revenge added more in-depth combat features to the game, but because you had to contend with opponents actually trying to take you out and you couldn't respawn, they were likely concerned that if your pod exploded as easily on impact with a course element the game would be too unforgiving.
Keep in mind that while crashing in EP1 Racer was a guaranteed explosion, the game would just simply respawn you with s.
This was my first ps2 game and i always likes it more than the first game on dreamcast/N64. Mainly because you can switch to the "pro style controls" so that each analoge stick resembles one engine. If you push both sticks forward you accelerate, if you push one forward and pull the other stick back, you are able to take hard turns. Definately a nice control sheme🙂
Woah i never knew this!!
Oh really?
That's why when I watched this video I was like, this feels slower 😂
You can do that on the original N64 by plugging in two controllers. Each controlling one engine.
@@dekoldrick pretty nice Feature😅
I really liked racer revenge 🤷
I liked it when I was young. I had never and still have yet to play episode 1 racer but I have it on my Xbox from Gold before it ended. Going back now I would probably not enjoy the game but when I was a kid who loved star wars this game scratched the itch I played a lot of this game.
It was much easier than the original
I've never played the episode 1 version but racer revenger is one of my favorite racing games
I feel the need to point out that although Sebulba's engines sound different, they also look different. It's possible they changed the sounds because the engines are meant to be an updated model.
Good point, and one I didn't notice until I read your comment.
You can get Young Sebulba when you finish Sebulba's campaign.
I unfortunately will break it you...it's the same sound still. likely just copied the sound over to save disc space.
Bladed Angel That doesn't necessarily make the idea false. They may have just gotten lazy with young sebulba or something. It's still entirely possible that Sebulba's pod sounds different due to being newer. After all, you can still hear it chugging, but the chug is lighter and faster, almost sounding cleaner and more efficient in a sense, which is what you'd want from a newer model of an old engine template. If they were TRULY lazy, they'd copy the sound file from the first game or make all the pods sound the same.
My most disappointing sequel has to go to The Getaway: Black Monday. Bland gunplay, mediocre story and forced stealth sections! Argh!
To be fair the first getaway game was also pretty disappointing lol
I agree with most of what you said. I love the no respawn feature, the crashes, etc. But the AI is almost lifeless and the rubber banding is crazyyyyy in this game. Also, Sebulba's pod didn't sound that off imo.
PS. I still recommend this game.
@@mandawarian my theory on Sebulba's sound is-well its 8 years later..and hes upgraded his engine. it sounds faster & the base sound is there still.
I was sad I wasn't aware it existed till I saw how bland it looks.
Child me would've be devistated having to cope with this discovery lmao
Yeahhhhh, I sorta see why i never knew it had a sequel. I also know why nobody talks about it. 😅
Ahh, man it’s a shame this game turned out to be so bland. Because the first game had areas that could use some improvement. But regardless I enjoyed the review.
Honestly my most disappointing game sequel is probably Sly 4. I felt it didn’t understand the tone of the series and mishandled the characters and redesigns a lot. And while Sly 1-3 had memorable villains, I remember none from 4. I could talk about that game for hours lol
I've heard that about Sly 4! I think they changed developers? Probably why. My most disappointing sequel has to go to The Getaway: Black Monday. Bland gunplay, mediocre story and forced stealth sections! Argh!
tight turns and corners isn't a flaw in this title, there is a reason the power slide mechanic was added which was never used within this footage presented in this review, smacking corners or touching walls do drastically reduced speed as a penalty. progression of your upgraded pod racer is more noticeable nearing the end of the tournament and having a lead is common as in the older title, notable differences is that your looking at a lead of 5-30 seconds instead of +1mins. watto shop getting the chomping block is a SHAME. reason being is probably bc the tracks have been cut in half, in turn less credits earned to upgrade your pod. upgrades can be downgraded at a reduced return to upgrade other mods but its not recommended. Maps are more static is this title and offer no dynamic environment dangers, reason being IMO whomever worked on this title was influence by Star Wars Podracer ARCADE controls, tucked away in the control settings both analog sticks can function like tank controls just like how a real pod racer would operate, which in turn watered down and eliminated the possibility of having Roll, Pitch and Yaw like controls assigned to the Right stick, which does absolutely NOTHING. Being able to knock out other podracers is a nice addition, notably heaver and bigger looking pods do considerately more amount of damage upon impact at the cost of being less mobile and more likely to smack into walls and vice versa with their smaller pod counterparts. End Game unlockable pod racers have a similar feel of speed to the older game which were not mentioned or played in this review, characters such as Sebulba Episode 1, Young Anakin , Watto or better yet Darth Maul and Vader. All in all the game's innovation was crippled by a gimmick
I don't know if this is just me missing something, but I also found it was unclear exactly what the controls were. I *think* I found the repair button, but there wasn't really any indication if or when I was actually repairing, or how much difference it made. Like, I worked out which button accelerates, and how to turn, but that's really it. I played two tracks, which I won with seemingly way too much ease, and then I switched games. I never really got the feeling that there was much power behind the racers either.
*I played it on a PS2 emulator for PC.
Yeah you're right, it sorta just throws you right into the game with zero indication of controls, mechanics, etc. I've noticed over the years a lot of these older games didn't give you a tutorial, because the instructions and your introduction were shown in the manuals. But yeah, you're completely right about the lack of difficulty.
you make a lot of valid criticisms, but i’ll always be biased in loving this game. i spent countless hours with my brother and childhood best friend trying to 100% this game as well as the original N64 version. great video!
Thank you!
I heard that they were gonna include three courses from Coruscant and a third track from both Ryloth and Sullust. It’s bummer that they were cut. I don’t hate this game personally, I respect your views and opinions on this game. I think this is a decent enough good Podracing game, especially when special characters like Darth Maul and Watto are racers in that game. I also liked that visuals and models on the pods are overhauled, but I do agree that the Episode 1 Racer feel wasn’t there. And when you listen to the files, I don’t know where you would find them, you can tell they were gonna do a lot more with this game if it had more time in development instead of rushing it to release it on a certain time.
Thank you for the comment, that's a real shame they cut content. Maybe other aspects of the game were also rushed to get it out on time, either way its a real shame. I would've loved to see that Episode I feel with newer visuals and an expanded roster of characters and tracks.
they don't want you to race. they want you to fight. so the rubber-banding is nuts. you're way ahead while boosting, and then another racer just teleports and "sticks" to you. Once you notice that speed doesn't matter, you start to wonder why you're even playing.
Yep! Major departure from the first game, where speed was king!
I just want someone to find all the old devs for Split/Second and give them the rights to a new podracing game. I personally think Split/Second is one of the best racing games ever. The cars felt real, way more than any NFS game but without feeling boring like in Gran Tourismo. The sound design and music was fantastic. If that dev team had made a podracing game everyone would have shit themselves.
I still need to get around to playing Split/Second, is it really that good?
@@NoMooreMercyTV Yes. It is that good.
Wanted to play this game so much for years. Finally did and it plays like ASS compared to the first game.
The first game is just on another level.
Don’t forget you can unlock five hidden characters in this game, and this is the order you’d want to unlock them in; first you’d want to unlock Sebulba ( Episode 1 with his original pod designs from the movie ), Darth Maul, Watto, Young Anakin ( with original designs for his pod from the movie ), and Darth Vader.
Personally, I hard disagree. After the original Battlefront 2 this is my favorite game of all time. I have hundreds if not thousands of hours in this game over my lifetime. The KO system is so cool, the first game completely lacks that added sense of fun. If you like racing more, then you'd prefer the first one. If you like more action (imo), then you'd prefer the sequel.
That's a fair assessment, to me I was let down by the change in direction.
They made racer back-compatible for the xbox one and it's still how I remember it and enjoyed it. Never played the sequel and never knew one existed until now.
I didn't know til shortly after making the video about the first one 😅
No they didn't they just rereleased it
@@Z64bit yeah guess that true, I havnt played racer since the days of the n64 and today. Glad they thought to bring it back. Now I just need to find the sequel 🤣
@@NoMooreMercyTV is that right 🤣🤣 well guess you ought to play it then. Very much recommended
For me the most disappointing sequel was Deus Ex 2
You got good points, the only positive I see here is the tracks looks better that's is all
The graphics are better but ehhhh
This was the second game I ever got for my PS2, and even my 12-year-old self with very low standards found it disappointing. It lacked the ludicrous sense of speed that the first one had, along with the sense of danger. You could crash into something at high speed or grind a wall all the way through a turn, and just bounce off and hold repair. The races felt less like navigating a jet-powered death machine at high speed and more like playing bumper cars with your 8 year old cousin. And you HAD to play aggressively if you wanted to max the paycheck so you could get fully upgraded.
In addition, a large number of the podracers from the previous game did NOT return, including many from the original Boonta Eve race, namely: Elan Mak, Ebe Endocott, Boles Roor, & Ark Roose. Ratts Tyrell and Neva Kee did not return, but they were technically dead, so this makes a bit more sense (but so was Wan Sandage, and he came back for this sequel...). NONE of the Episode 1 Racer pods that were not featured in the movie returned, which was disappointing (Bullseye Navior, Slide Paramita, Fud Sang, Toy Dampner, Bozzie Baranta, Cy Yunga, or Jinn Reeso).
Graphics looked nice for the time, and some of the new pods were cool, but that was about it. Given how popular the original game still is to this day, they really could have made something great but bungled it hard.
Well said
Not a sequel to a game but if you asked me the worst game coming off a sequel was Aliens, Colonial Marines.
Yep, pretty awful game, even with all of the mods that "fix" it on PC.
I am trying to think of how to make sebulba's machine sound good. I feel like even the sound they have in this game gets a bit... drone-y, and making it louder and punchier would sorta drown out other sounds important to gameplay and just become annoying for minutes on end. Plus, the really cool sound from the movie was punctuated by how brief those moments were and the severe doppler effect as the machine passed the "camera" at such speeds.
Yeah, I don't like the sequel. Especially since I didn't get to play it until I was an adult when it came out on ps4. I'll still do a race here and there, but I favor episode 1 racer by far. However, if they did a remaster of the 2, I'd favor ep1 racer more, but I'd be ok with them adding the ep 1 hidden racers plus I don't mind the racer revenge racers being added. To spice up ep 1 racer. Especially the maul and Vader hidden racers haha.
Late to the party, but Fighting Force 2 has got to be the worst sequel I've ever experienced by a country mile. They aren't even the same genre of game.
It's really that bad?! I love Fighting Force! Never touched the second.
@@NoMooreMercyTV it's so bad that you could 1000% make a video off of it.
@tomkat492 I'll keep that in mind for sure, thank you for the suggestion!
One of the most disappointing sequel for me was Destruction Derby Arenas. I mean, DDRaw was so cool on the PS1, it had awesome tracks, solid gameplay, nice cars and a lot of replay value and it was followed by a game like looked like a toy car game made by rookies.
i atually prefer each racer having their own career mode, but i do agree that they become very samey once you upgrade them. It would be nice if each racer also had a different maximum level in all the stats, so even once they become OP they feel different. Maybe even giving them all a special ability or maneuver could help them feel unique (sebulba having a flamethrower, aldar beedo making extra money for knocking out other racers, etc)
I really wish we get a Nintendo Switch port for Racer Revenge one day, as I've never played it. I have Ep. 1 Racer on the Switch port, so getting the sequel would be brilliant.
Weird too, since its on other platforms.
ep 1 racer was also bad ass on the sega dreamcast.
I should've played that version too, I'll have to go back and check it out.
While Episode 1 Racer does allow respawning, the droids will not repair any damaged parts should you crash once.
I figured this out because I used to buy damaged parts and flip them after every race.
Wouldn't recommend this to anybody? No improvments over the first game? Surely you're being a bit too harsh there. As disappointing as it may be when compared to the N64 title, it's still a good game to own if you have a PlayStation 2.
just randomly came across your video and what curious if you ever got the additional *Secret* racers after your playthrough? you didnt talk about them in your video so i was just curious. (Like episode 1 sebulba as an example ) not just current time one
I did not get those additional racers, but after looking up Episode I Sebulba, that seems to have fixed my issues with the audio at least lol!
Vader Darth Maul and Anakin final form.
This game does everything worse than its predecessor. Feels slower, controls mushier, tracks are worse
My vote for disappointing sequel has to go to the Force Unleashed 2. Force Unleashed was fantastic - I had it on the Wii, so it felt better than other consoles imo, because the control for attacking was actually swinging the wiimote around, and using the nunchuck to force push and such. I got FU2 on the Wii as well, but it felt awful and it was just button inputs to attack instead of motion controls, and it felt really watered down. One level is basically a corridor on Dagobah and thats it.
Hmm, I never thought to check these games out on Wii. Are the motion controls good? Like responsive? I may have to take a look.
Was i the only one to Unlock Vader, Maul, && Skywalker final form?
Good game. Racer 1 has more, as well as holds my nostalgic love. I still like Revenge a lot.
I came looking to see if others were as disappointed as I was.
The original is still amazing. But I turned Revenge off after 3 races.
Also didn't see my boy, Ebe Endecott
Yepppp, so disappointing.
Played this game just now and i also easily beat it in an hour never finishing less than first. Still got my ps2 copy from back in the day but game does feel like you are not in any danger of losing. Lack of a difficulty setting and difficulty in general severely drags the game down.
I give it a generous 7/10 because nostalgia.
Sometimes you praise the derailing of pace, sometimes you curse it.
Choose a side.
Never played, but watching your footage, it looks like all the racers are going slower. Way less impact. Turning should inherently be more sharp. A podracer is basically a glorified chariot. The engines are tethered, but free floating, so, guess what if you slow the left one down compared to the right one? Physics would swing the whole vehicle to the left pretty dang quick. They should have really QA’d the controls better.
This game is great... for game journos, i suppoe
I didn't know this game existed but considering it's a PS2 title why does it hardly look better than the original.
well what the video op leaves out (and a lot of people don't get) is EP1 racer was actualy made in same gen as racer revenge. the game was designed for PC and Dreamcast . the game making it on n64 ahd to be severy dowgraded . (frame rate textures ect.ect. ) the dream cast is same gen as PS2 albeit the PS2 had mosty better hardware as it came a year after the DC. the dreamcast was the first console of that generation though. and in some respects by the time the PS2 came out dreamcast was well into it's growing phase so games on it were lookiing better and better while devs were still learning PS2 hardware. that said the PS2 was only a little bit more powerful that the DC and to unlock it's potential you had to really know the system's software and coding. so yeah if you played ep 1 racer on PC or Dreamcast , you really didn't see much upgrade with racer's revenge visually.
however if you played the n64 port ... yeah it would have been night and day better.
I loved the sequel. It wasn't perfect and it was less a of a finesse focused racer, but it captured the scum & villainy element perfectly with the cheating/combat system.
I think you nailed why I love the first one so much and didn't care for this one at all. Finesse.
@@NoMooreMercyTV It’s why I love both! They each offer something a little different.
Wouldn’t it be so sick to get a third one though?! A modern pod racer game in frostbite or UE5 is pretty damned close to the top of my “please, just once before I die” list.
The modern port of the first game is free this month with Xbox Live!
I just beat it today and it was _way_ better than I thought it'd be. That said, it sucks the sequel got a poor treatment. Especially since _WipEout_ is exclusive to PlayStation as well!
They're the king of antigrav racing games (imo), so, why'd they'd phone it in on WipEout's home turf is beyond me.
The first game is soooo good, they put this one (Revenge) on PS Plus Premium but it's really not great. I'm glad you Xbox guys have the first one to enjoy, since Nintendo seems deadset on keeping F-Zero dead and PS is the same way with Wipeout
@@NoMooreMercyTV A new Wipeout and a new (good) Killzone. That's what I want to see for PS.
I had hope that Halo Infinite was going to be the next coming of FPS christ, which, while it had the potential, was obviously misplaced.
Titanfall is dead.. so.. _theoretically_ Killzone could have a shot.
That said, after playing E1R and looking at RR's gameplay.. BOY does it look rank by comparison.
I did the junkyard manipulation thing to get over 100,000 truguts, so I've got max upgrade pods. It's been a trip trying to set new track times.
Worst sequel to a game?
Force Unleashed 2, the single greatest let down in Star Wars gaming
Yeahhhh, that game definitely felt rushed. Shame we never got Star Wars 1313
Loved this game as a kid
I'm afraid you're not going to like what I have to say about it then. 🤐
@@NoMooreMercyTV Yeah I read the timestamps in the description. Who knows, maybe I have nostalgia glasses on and the game is rubbish
Yeah but the graphics were new at that time.
Racer Revenge is awesome
Shame really, I'm such a huge pod racing fan and wish there was more media surrounding it. This is one game I've never tried partially cause I keep forgetting it exists. I looked it up today as to maybe push myself to check it out. Found your video and....eh....think I may pass.
Original game is so good. I wish the mechanics of the first game were present in the aesthetics of Revenge.
Anyway, found your channel because this! Subbed! Ganna binge your videos now lol
Yeahhhh it's a real bummer about the game, maybe we'll get a proper third game that does it justice. Honestly I'd settle for a remaster of the first, imagine how good it'd look with modern tech!
And thank you for the sub! Hope you enjoy the rest of my videos :)
Fatal inertia
I can't explane why but i think it also looks bad... the first game looked and felt way better somehow.
It's that sense of speed! The first game felt so much quicker, this one feels not only slower, but clumsier too.
@@NoMooreMercyTVYes! The speed was off!
I also think that more "sharpness" in old games is not always better... the first game looked more realistic somehow...
GTA SA looked better on ps2 as on pc because the washed out look felt more "real" somehow lol
So, regarding sound, honestly what makes the sound so good in the actual scene in TPM is the "redshift" effect on the sound. What you hear in the game is what the pilot would hear sitting behind those engines the whole race.
I like Star Wars Racer Revenge
Felt the rogue squadon sequels were progressively more underwhelming. Rogue leader was a visual upgrade but worse from a game play standpoint. There were less missions of lower quality. There was no sense skill progression where skills are developed and tested over the course of the missions. Most missions are designed with only one ship in mind which reduces replayability and experimentation. The missions were overly dark, turret are hard to distinguish and hit, and the targeting computer which compensates for the visual problems activity counts against your gold medal rank teaching you not to use it. The x-wing is surprisingly a poor dog fighter as it's firing spread is wider than the tie fighter's silhouette. A lot of ties have annoying ai where they scatter if you shoot the wrong one in a squad or activity crash into you. Rebel strike is essentially the same game as rogue leader but with half the missions being bad 3rd person shooters, or walker/speeder bike missions. The flight sim missions you do get are very lacking and arguably weaker than the last game. The only really redeemable part of rebel strike is the re-creation of rogue leader as a multi player and the other multi player modes.
I've never played the Rogue Squadron games, maybe something for a future video? Something to think about. Thank you for your comment.
Danm
There was one track late in Episode 1 where if you didn't hit the correct route, you went from 1st to last almost immediately. 2:56
Yup! Frustrating as hell those first few times lmao.
I remember it! But I was a kid then... it was Abyss. I think it was Race 4-2 on selection, and the favorite pilot there was Bozzie Baranta. You had to choose the upper route and be careful to not falling to the lower route. What was actually funny about it: if you stayed on that route, the IA wouldn't take it, or would quickly fall up the corners while trying to do so. But if you weren't close enough to keep an eye on them, they'd sure as hell take it and surpass you! So, the IA kept that route in secret for me many times until I found out what was happening. Awesome times!!
I remember the graphics looking so much better than this....
most disappointing video game sequel?
Dragon Age 2 was such a huge downgrade in every aspect compared to the first. It was just a rushed game. The first one is a 9/10 in my book, maybe 10/10. The second is like a 4/10.
Also, Supreme Commander 2. The first game was a grandiose RTS with an emphasis on macro-management. For the sequel, they committed to making the game more playable/accessible to those playing on console, with a controller. How? By Dumbing down everything. Subsequently, the franchise and the devs went under.
Blame EA not Bioware
DAO was in development for 6 years while DA2 was development for 1 so i heavily disagree that DA2 is a bad game
I'm pretty sure the speed is measured in kilometers per hour.
Thank you for the content
You're welcome Austin!
I played this in 2002 when i was seven. amazing game
The first was more fun when you did the RRDUAL cheat and used two N64 controllers.
What Racer Revenge did better was to incorporate the DualShock sticks as a default scheme.
I didn't even know you could use two controllers on the original! That's awesome, I'll have to look up some gameplay.
There is one more Star Wars racer if your interested, the forbiden "Super bombad racing"
I think I'm gonna take a break from Star Wars games for a bit, but that game looks absolutely awful.
@@NoMooreMercyTV Well if your ever struggling for a video, you have this as a backup :P
Don’t forget Anakin's Speedway!
Disappointing Sequel: The Last of Us part 2.
Loved the first, I mean loved loved loved the first, but the second was a huge letdown for me. Agreed.
Racer revenge was a classic. 🤦♂️
My man…you can’t create a diss track on this game and be riding around as anakin. The point of the game is to unlock new vehicles, which becomes harder each time (most KO’s, best lap time, best race time). If the furthest unlock youve got is Sebulba, you’ve effectively completed the tutorial level, and have completed maybe 20% of the actual game. Consider learning the game and giving it a further chance-what you’ll find is as engaging and in some ways better that Episode 1 Racer.
No way is Revenge a Disappointing sequel
How so? What did you like about it?
Kingdom hearts 3 was ass. Bunch of fans just blind on what a bad game it was . Nobody wants to admit it. But look at the downgrade from kh2 to kh3 I wanted my money back I was so disappointed. Immediately played kh2 just to not hate it.
I also didn't like KH3, I had just played through most of the games, at least the ones in the collection, and it didn't click for me like some of the others. Idunno, maybe I was just burned out on the series.