Spider Mastermind vs 100 Demons - Monster Infighting - Doom Retro Battles

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  • Multiple Doom battles between the Spider Mastermind and 100 Demons (aka Pinkies), each with different variations such as numbers and difficulty level. Same monster infighting and Nightmare respawns is disabled.
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    Doom Retro Battles involves several Doom and Doom 2 battles, a fight club or battle simulator of sorts, between various units and unit compositions, each with different variations such as weapons, numbers, difficulty levels like Ultra-Violence and Nightmare, etc.
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  • @Qoko88
    @Qoko88 Рік тому +89

    Disclaimer: a lot of Spiderdemons were humiliated in the making of this video.

  • @Yuuto_Katsuki
    @Yuuto_Katsuki Рік тому +127

    Whenever I see a new battle with the Spider Mastermind, it's always the question "How will it get humiliated THIS time?"
    Pinkies: Hold our beers!

    • @remiliascarlet4990
      @remiliascarlet4990 Рік тому +2

      Pinkies: Hold our beers

    • @Yuuto_Katsuki
      @Yuuto_Katsuki Рік тому +1

      @@remiliascarlet4990 corrected, lol
      Thanks XD

    • @sammicopor
      @sammicopor Рік тому +5

      Nothing in that game survives the pinky onslaught horde.

    • @Yuuto_Katsuki
      @Yuuto_Katsuki Рік тому +2

      @@sammicopor The Cyperdemon has the best chances to be honest 😅

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Рік тому

      @@Yuuto_Katsuki Oh come on!!! No one goes up against the Spider Mastermind and survives!!! NO ONE!!!

  • @georgeheilman885
    @georgeheilman885 Рік тому +36

    A video that keeps getting funnier with every round. Especially the spider that freaking goes to sleep while still under attack!
    Beautiful.

  • @ISleepWithAFanOn
    @ISleepWithAFanOn Рік тому +70

    This honestly makes me want to see how many marines with just fists could take the SM. I feel like that's the ultimate insult worthy of such a boss.

    • @acb1511
      @acb1511 Рік тому +15

      Nerds have been killing bosses with fists immediately after the game was released in 1993.

    • @Lagbeard
      @Lagbeard Рік тому +20

      According to the interwebs, the Spider Mastermind has a painchance of 15.63%, this comes out to about 1 in 6 and a half attacks stunning it... So theoretically, 7 marines fisting a Spider Mastermind could stunlock it to death.

    • @ISleepWithAFanOn
      @ISleepWithAFanOn Рік тому +8

      @@Lagbeard Honestly, that sounds about spot-on. Might need an extra one or two Marines to die during the initial approach + the time to encircle her, but even without that buffer, the Marines would have a fair chance.

    • @Lagbeard
      @Lagbeard Рік тому +8

      7 marines with optimal circumstances would win, but to account for the likelyhood of some of them getting shot as they approach and the Spider Mastermind getting the occasional shot off while being punched, 10 marines with nothing but the fist would probably be an extremely consistent win against 1 Spider.

    • @hiimuziwannaplay2497
      @hiimuziwannaplay2497 Рік тому

      smm is trash, useless, garbage monster

  • @rareroe305
    @rareroe305 Рік тому +13

    Gotta love that DOOM AI.
    "Fight!"

  • @pscwplb
    @pscwplb Рік тому +19

    Honestly, pinkies are kind of the bane of masterminds. All it takes is for one of them to get stuck in the spider's collision and the fight is over.

  • @tskmaster3837
    @tskmaster3837 Рік тому +24

    My first encounter with Cyberdemon: "Oh crap, oh crap oh crap... oh, I'm dead."
    My first encounter with Spider Mastermind: "... Wait, was that the Boss?"

  • @BigBobster86
    @BigBobster86 Рік тому +20

    Have to say I liked the blood on the wall effects.
    Besides the high pain chance, the SM having so many targets to try and pick from really "dooms" it.

    • @normanred9212
      @normanred9212 Рік тому +2

      Making her chain gun stronger and lowering her pain chain would probably do numbers

  • @ITRIEDEL
    @ITRIEDEL Рік тому +24

    Problem with the mastermind is it’s target selection process. It picks a target, chews on it until the target is dead then goes back to target selection process. Every so often it’s auto selected a target but it generally has to walk around a few seconds.
    It was a great boss in the 90’s when it’s only enemy was doom guys w/ keyboard only haha. The thing would chop your life down super quick

    • @arturbrzezinski7955
      @arturbrzezinski7955 Рік тому +3

      Yupp. Definitely a not well-thought superboss. Ten times weakr than CyberDemon

    • @ironcito1101
      @ironcito1101 Рік тому +1

      I think her problem is that she too often stops firing when she gets hurt. If she kept firing non-stop until her target was dead, she could probably dispatch a cyberdemon easily, depending on how far away the were. But no, she gets hit once and she starts walking around instead of firing. With several enemies hurting her at once, she hardly fires at all.

  • @SvendleBerries
    @SvendleBerries Рік тому +10

    I love how the camera shakes back and forth in disappointment lol

  • @gaborsimon3299
    @gaborsimon3299 Рік тому +41

    well that came out a 100% how I expected it

  • @ISleepWithAFanOn
    @ISleepWithAFanOn Рік тому +24

    1:34 - Couldn't help but shake your head in disappointment 😹

    • @MGoolas
      @MGoolas Рік тому +1

      "so this is where the hell administration decided to store the plans for the earth invasion" (demon slowly facepalms)

  • @Vintage9182
    @Vintage9182 Рік тому +2

    The first one between the mastermind and the nightmare pinkies might be one of the funniest doom related things I've ever seen.

  • @Shadowtrooper09
    @Shadowtrooper09 Рік тому +13

    This is really making me want to see my request for the Spidermastermind vs Pain Elementals to see how both sides do haha

    • @Shadowtrooper09
      @Shadowtrooper09 Рік тому +1

      @Samm Salvey yes but the Lost Souls don’t have a lot of Health nor do the Pain Elementals and The Spidermastermind can hit more than 1enemy up close which is devastating and since the Lost Souls like to get up close and gang up on you I think the Lost Souls are Dooming themselves unless they trigger The Spidermasterminds pain state a lot but they don’t even do that much damage and they still don’t even if they they don’t trigger her pain state so I think Spidermastermind has a decent chance and Lost Souls and Pain Elementals don’t

  • @BigDavey
    @BigDavey Рік тому +1

    3:44
    SMM:"Well, my job here is done."
    Pinky:"Um, Excuse me?"(bites SMM ASS)
    SMM:"WHAT THE? I THOUGHT I KILLED YOU!"😂

  • @ProjectDevilEye
    @ProjectDevilEye Рік тому +33

    Honestly with Pinkies you might as well go in reverse and start Nightmare, they become pretty much the most deadly foe in the game on that difficulty, the difference with their ferocity is night and day.

    • @zedsdeadbaby
      @zedsdeadbaby Рік тому +6

      Yeah it's because on nightmare they can bite faster, but the chaingun is a fixed firing rate on every difficulty. They can start to attack sooner, but that's the only difference.

    • @darkpawdingo5331
      @darkpawdingo5331 Рік тому +2

      The only thing that can stand up to them is one or more Cyberdemons. Their splash damage is the biggest reason.

  • @CapralHarrison
    @CapralHarrison Рік тому +2

    i always found pinkies to be rather cute pink hungry bulls than intimidating demons, so when nigtmare pinkies surrounds those masterminds and just devouring their dinner, it's almost funny enough to smile

  • @DrPootis
    @DrPootis Рік тому +6

    Spider Mastermind showing us why its the proud holder of F tier status

  • @erickleefeld4883
    @erickleefeld4883 Рік тому +2

    Pinkies on Nightmare are basically running chainsaws.

  • @geonerd
    @geonerd Рік тому +2

    Spidey has no pain tolerance. Fortified with a pint of whiskey, he'd mow down an army.

  • @EvilMariobot
    @EvilMariobot Рік тому +2

    Once the Nightmare Pinkies surround it, consider it stunlocked until it's dead.

  • @chriswaudby1084
    @chriswaudby1084 Рік тому +8

    Holy shit the nightmare stats turns the pinkies into well a streaming mass of pinkies chomping the hell out of spider felt sorry for the mastermind

  • @vadimvadosov8281
    @vadimvadosov8281 Рік тому +2

    At the nightmare level, monsters are much more aggressive and attack regardless of losses. Mastermind just gets stuck surrounded by demons that bite him endlessly.

  • @wereduck392
    @wereduck392 Рік тому +7

    Ladies & gentlemen, this is what rebellion looks like...🤣

  • @zedsdeadbaby
    @zedsdeadbaby Рік тому +7

    The spider mastermind's super high pain chance really lets them down, but that's the price of being hitscan

  • @mondragon9282
    @mondragon9282 Рік тому +8

    LMFAO the Stewie Griffin popup 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @rohitchaoji
    @rohitchaoji Рік тому +1

    The only other time I saw something like this was in some nature documentary, but instead of "pinky demons", they were army ants.

  • @Nemephosis
    @Nemephosis Рік тому +1

    Pinkies are just mild annoyances on UV, but turn that up to Nightmare and they become raging whirlwinds of death.

  • @darkmarine23
    @darkmarine23 Рік тому +3

    That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Spider Mastermind, you should be embarrassed for what you just did. That does not belong in a video game.

  • @edzeppelin1984
    @edzeppelin1984 Рік тому +8

    Look, there's a good reason E3M8 only has like three other monsters in it

    • @shackilleuhdeal7462
      @shackilleuhdeal7462 Рік тому +4

      Those two Cacos and Baron are still very capable of bringing down Big Mama Mastermind.

    • @Ply447
      @Ply447 Рік тому +3

      @Shackille Uh'Deal that and e1m1 are the only maps ive done pacifist on nightmare, those monsters make it a joke.

  • @Dezthesigma123
    @Dezthesigma123 Рік тому +1

    0:38 a pitbull after calling for all of his friends to attack my unattended 6 year old son

  • @OuroborosChoked
    @OuroborosChoked Рік тому +1

    This video demonstrates 3 things:
    1. The Spider Mastermind is a bitch.
    2. Friendly fire is the greatest weakness of any of these battles.
    3. Nightmare pinkies are _terrifying._

    • @andyl8055
      @andyl8055 Рік тому

      Amen. Let a nightmare pinky get close and your screen will be redder than if a rocket hit you.

  • @foxboi6309
    @foxboi6309 Рік тому +2

    SM to GG probably: "Can you please stop torturing me? Thank you"

  • @WickedParanoid
    @WickedParanoid Рік тому +5

    Hoo boy, this is pure agony. For SM, that is. Not as bad as being annihilated by pistol zombies (come on, man!), but still.
    By the way, any thoughts on Quake/2 infightings?

  • @Lagbeard
    @Lagbeard Рік тому +6

    Spider Mastermind is too big and has too high of a pain chance, the Pinkies are able to get enough of them around it that they can effectively stunlock them.

  • @eurocarpleurocarpl2057
    @eurocarpleurocarpl2057 Рік тому +4

    Spider Mastermind vs Zombies. 1 vs 500

  • @LanceOmikron
    @LanceOmikron Рік тому +6

    Y'know, I wonder how much more powerful the Mastermind would be if its pain state was entirely disabled.

  • @normanred9212
    @normanred9212 Рік тому +3

    I've been playing through all of classic Doom with Fast Monsters and Nightmare Reflexes on UV mode(aka Nightmare without respawning) and it is the best way to play

  • @vladpiranha
    @vladpiranha Рік тому +1

    I can just hear the Spider Mastermind whining "I wasn't ready yet".

  • @NoName-st5so
    @NoName-st5so Рік тому +2

    I love pinkies, wanna see more fights with them! 😈

  • @kennethchia4194
    @kennethchia4194 Рік тому +4

    Among the Spider Mastermind's many issues, one of them as you add more is that it doesn't play well with other Spider Masterminds.

  • @Goldeneye007Masters
    @Goldeneye007Masters Рік тому +3

    Spider Masterminds pain chance and hit box size let him down here and the pinkies just swarm and have a fast melee attack to perfectly take advantage.

  • @bbenjoe
    @bbenjoe Рік тому +3

    Well I'll be! I knew the SM would fall against such a horde of pinky demons, but this was outright pathetic.

  • @ZoruaZorroark
    @ZoruaZorroark Рік тому +1

    and that is exactly why turbo pinkies are scary af

  • @SevenSixTwo2012
    @SevenSixTwo2012 Рік тому

    That pig squealing sound is the spider mastermind saying : "Oh no, I'm so f**ked!" 😂

  • @JoseGonzalez-pn5zl
    @JoseGonzalez-pn5zl Рік тому +2

    Those nightmare pinky were really hungry they tore that mastermind up fast.

  • @AKU-hs2rj
    @AKU-hs2rj Рік тому +1

    100 pinkies on nightmare make a zergling rush look slightly tame lol

  • @1StIwY1
    @1StIwY1 Рік тому +6

    Worst unbalanced monster at the game ( Spiderdemon ). Doom is pretty balanced but they messed up with that one.

  • @Dimon12321
    @Dimon12321 Рік тому +8

    4:17 Lol

  • @ordendelenit8835
    @ordendelenit8835 Рік тому +1

    Well, again, the large size of the spider works against her and the stun chance or pain state. It's funny to see small creatures humiliate a big foe like her. She even gets stuck against the wall...xD

  • @LtEvangel
    @LtEvangel Рік тому +2

    it's like watching them trying to shake these deadly ants off their skin.

  • @radscorpion8
    @radscorpion8 Рік тому +2

    nightmare pinkies just devour them. Reminds me of zerglings with adrenal gland

  • @CodSlap
    @CodSlap Рік тому +4

    If your rig has the juice to run it, Doom arena battles like these would probably look fantastic with Cheello’s Voxel Doom mod (without pissing off the purists 😉).
    Edit: that Stewie was spot on! 🤣

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver Рік тому +2

    This was IMO a fait accompli. The SMM is a joke enemy. I can't recall the map but decino saw one get taken out by a single pinkie; pinned her and had her in constant stun lock.

  • @piececlown1515
    @piececlown1515 Рік тому +10

    The spidermastermind doesn't do that good against many opponents, but it's extremely strong in a 1v1. Even pwns a cyberdemon in close range 1v1

    • @ggn3
      @ggn3 Рік тому +3

      Depends on how often the Cyberdemon's pain state triggers to disrupt its attacks which is around 5%. If Cyberdemon's pain state gets triggered enough from the Mastermind's chaingun, she has a good shot to win a match. But even with immunity from splash damage, the Cyberdemon's rocket volley can still inflict greater damage over time to the Mastermind hence winning the majority of matches.

    • @piececlown1515
      @piececlown1515 Рік тому +1

      @@ggn3 Mastermind mostly loses against a cyberdemon mid to long range. Never seen a spidermastermind lose close range, i even saw a video where a spidermastermind kill 3 cyberdemons close range, though it was in closed spaces so the cyberdemons couldn't surround it, still that's pretty impressive.

    • @Toast_94
      @Toast_94 Рік тому +3

      It depends on the difficulty. On ultra violence the spider mastermind wins quite a lot but on nightmare it doesn't stand a chance of beating the cyberdemon.

  • @alexey249
    @alexey249 Рік тому +1

    In UV SM is able to take Cyber 1vs1, but can't deal with 20 pinkies! While cyber beats alone hundreds of pinkies. Thats funny)

  • @MrEvilbyte
    @MrEvilbyte Рік тому +1

    Miss Tier F gets Nom'd by Pinkies and freaking dies xD

  • @joeschmo622
    @joeschmo622 Рік тому

    The end level in D2 with the Spider Brain, Goat Man, and 2 Basketballs, I would just run around on the ledge letting the Spider Brain antagonise the others. Was fun seeing any of the critters wedging between the SB's legs and just clawing over and over 'til the SB would pop.

  • @Someonehahaha
    @Someonehahaha Рік тому +3

    The spidermasterminds prob seems to be 2 things. its inability to decide a target and its pain chance.

  • @mansadraculamur8021
    @mansadraculamur8021 Рік тому +1

    Man the pinky is a true demon🤣🤣🤣

  • @commanderdon4300
    @commanderdon4300 Рік тому +1

    2:28 reported for showing a gang rape against a wall on UA-cam...

  • @anthroposmetron4475
    @anthroposmetron4475 Рік тому +1

    Spidey really isn't good at dealing with being mobbed.

  • @jernejvasic9585
    @jernejvasic9585 Рік тому +1

    the Fest of tiers

  • @philadams9254
    @philadams9254 Рік тому +3

    It would help if she actually shot once in a while?

  • @SaturnineXTS
    @SaturnineXTS Рік тому

    The Spider Masterminds started getting close to a critical mass there haha

  • @ditmarvanbelle1061
    @ditmarvanbelle1061 Рік тому +1

    4:15 LOOOOOOL Noice!

  • @DEdens1525
    @DEdens1525 Рік тому +3

    Spidermama is an F tier demon.

  • @w.a.a.m
    @w.a.a.m Рік тому +1

    Ultraviolencia y pesadilla son como el día y la noche

  • @Memphos1
    @Memphos1 Рік тому +7

    goddam the spider sucks

  • @sgtbam1306
    @sgtbam1306 Рік тому

    The chaingunner is scarier then the spider momma.

  • @andyl8055
    @andyl8055 Рік тому +3

    For the first time in what, channel history, a mob is so shit that GG judges him. Lolz

    • @karlk5801
      @karlk5801 Рік тому

      I missed that part. What did GG say about him?

    • @andyl8055
      @andyl8055 Рік тому

      @@karlk5801 lol the little stuey animation

    • @karlk5801
      @karlk5801 Рік тому

      @@andyl8055 This is at 4:14 for those who skipper over it

  • @Freddie_R
    @Freddie_R Рік тому

    Spider Masterminds ... so big, but also weak.
    With a lower painstate, they would be a big threath

  • @joseignaciogazzi3278
    @joseignaciogazzi3278 11 місяців тому

    Remember...
    No matter how weak the SpiderMastermind is.
    She is the one that planned to kill Daisy and succeded it.

  • @zahidsworld87
    @zahidsworld87 Рік тому +3

    Lame boss....2 Cyberdemons can take 500 pigs while here these gaints spiders eating dust infront of 10 pinkies

  • @ByzantineMinotaur
    @ByzantineMinotaur Рік тому

    This is why the mother demon didn't bother bringing the spider mastermind back for Doom 64.

  • @TSD4027
    @TSD4027 Рік тому +1

    Nightmare turbo pinkies are scary.

  • @johnlewisbrooks
    @johnlewisbrooks Рік тому +1

    EATEMUPS!

  • @IsleOfFeldspar
    @IsleOfFeldspar Рік тому +1

    What a mess. Who cleans up this arena after every match?😂

  • @NTAD
    @NTAD Рік тому

    Nomnomnomnomnomnomnom: The Animation

  • @woosh_hunter
    @woosh_hunter Рік тому

    this reminds me of monster bug wars.

  • @jarfuloflove7320
    @jarfuloflove7320 Рік тому

    I love these giant land piranhas!

  • @amcoolio
    @amcoolio Рік тому +1

    For her to be threatening in any level her code needs to be rewritten to have 0% pain chance, I feel like her pain chance was an oversight in development

    • @adambrown6669
      @adambrown6669 Рік тому +1

      If he had 0% pain chance he'd be way to lethal in the normal game, he's already a highly durable and more damaging version of the chaingunners, adding a 0% pain threshold is just gonna make fights with him present needlessly difficult especially when there are other monsters around or, like with the spirit world map 28, two of them in one room.
      The monsters are all fine for what they are meant for, and that is not infighting arenas, which is why there is no real balancing between monsters in regards to fighting one another, they are intended for fighting a single mobile target often as a team or in an environment that favours them, the tower of babel was a smaller map with pillars around to catch the player with splash damage, Dis was a big open map with limited cover, perfect for a hitscan boss with infinite range to have plenty of opportunities to hit you.
      Gotcha was a similar deal, big room, basically no cover and a situation that forced you to keep moving or force an infight.
      Aforementioned spirit world, the citadel, basically every map that has ever had one of the two bosses spawn with the exception of crusher and a small few multiplayer additions is set up in the bosses favour.

  • @IHATEDRIVING2
    @IHATEDRIVING2 2 місяці тому

    The Spider Mastermind weak point is that its inmediatly stop shooting after killing a single pinky demon. If its keep shooting and shooting things would be a lot different

  • @ngaikenny
    @ngaikenny Рік тому

    Is it me? Or do the spider master minds damage each other when they get in each other's way (not on purpose)? Thanks for sharing :).

  • @Elflightwarrior
    @Elflightwarrior Рік тому

    Spider Masterminds are just spiders but with chainguns grafted into their bodies. Maybe they are friends with Spider-Man.🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷🕸🕸🕸🕸🕸

  • @ernestoosuna4594
    @ernestoosuna4594 Рік тому

    The SM has 3 big problems: 1 - takes WAY too much time to start firing; 2 - gets stunned by damage very easily and 3 - it can only attack one by one. She will always lose

  • @JarethGT
    @JarethGT Рік тому

    The pinkies demanding higher pay

  • @Supcharged
    @Supcharged Рік тому

    Actually in the original dos port, you couldn’t really melee the spider mastermind like that

  • @MGoolas
    @MGoolas Рік тому

    Spider mastermind is the wussiest final boss in the history of fps. Poor thing should have been at least as equipped as a demolisher (2x chain guns and bfg), 50% less stun state and double the life.

    • @rupe719
      @rupe719 Рік тому

      yeah real demolisher i love that boss

  • @ggn3
    @ggn3 Рік тому +2

    Spider Mastermind's still as pathetic as usual.

  • @michaelgum97
    @michaelgum97 Рік тому +1

    The Spider Mastermind is still F tier garbage.

  • @marklarz4399
    @marklarz4399 Рік тому

    Well... at least the E3M8 music is cool

  • @angeldavidnunez4739
    @angeldavidnunez4739 Рік тому

    When I let sugar on the table

  • @DmitryKaminski
    @DmitryKaminski Рік тому +1

    How about Wolfenstein3D enemies battles though?

  • @anime4life209
    @anime4life209 Рік тому +1

    the SM hontstly, despite being a boss, is one of the weakest enemies in the game. almost, if not all, of the fights she's been in she's lost tha majority if not all of her matches.

  • @x03_TV
    @x03_TV Рік тому

    The spider-mastermind has a lot of pain chance 😢

  • @vicioenviciado6999
    @vicioenviciado6999 Рік тому

    Alto al abuso, pobre mastermind

  • @shirohimayumikira234
    @shirohimayumikira234 Рік тому

    The 100 turbo Pinkies vs the Spider Mastermind wasn't even a fight in the first place.
    EDIT 1: The 100 pinkies.

  • @comedyclassicentertainment1221

    monster coding for spiderdemon is rediculous. gets trapped so easily. the flying ones in convoluted doom are much crazier!

  • @stevengeyer4459
    @stevengeyer4459 Рік тому

    Can Spider Masterminds infight with each other?