I’m a metal drummer with 8” 10” rack toms 14” floor Tom 18” bass drum 12” snare I play fast so I like the quick response and I also like deeper small drums deep and a lot of attack
Gotta give it to David on this one.. small is the way to go, so much fatter sounding and wayyy less overtones. Plus it’s just more visually pleasing too 😂
It might be the way it is mic'd up, but hot damn I love the sound of David's kit. For me it blows the other kit away, which also sound amazing. I'd go David's kit allllll the time.
This is where having variety and knowledge of your kit comes into play too. I own a Yamaha Recording custom with 10,12,13,16 and 24x18 with a 14x6.5 snare and it only comes out when the money is right. I used to use it on small gigs until a friend of mine at church said he had a Tama kit from his childhood that I should look at. 10,12,14, 18x16 kick with a 13x3.5 piccolo snare I was like yup. Whole kit minus hardware in 2 trips to the truck. It's a swing star which is not even in the ballpark of a recording custom but it's extremely easy to tune play setup and breakdown. I even played it in 2500 seat sized theater and the engineer couldn't believe the sound of the little monster.
I'm a old guy.I like shallow (fast toms).Like David said,they have response.30yrs ago I had BIG drums(Deep Toms)My Starclassic kit I have now has a shallow toms,which to me sound so much better than those old Big drums
Imagine David Cola working at a drive through, and when you go to order, you hear, "welcome to _______, my name is david cola and I play the drums, what can I do for you?"
The only place that little kit is going to place over a larger sized kits is listening via a cell phone where I guess the world wants to live so, sorry for your loss in the tonal world. It really is a cool place to live. DW Performance - 24 x 18 Kick, 12 X 9, 13 x 10, 16 x 16 and 18x 16.
The most important aspect is smaller drums can cutthrough mix easily and if smaller drums made out of Birch,walnut,beech etc then it will rise above every instrument in the mix with warm dark punch and piercing top end......
I got to admit it, I think David is right. I've had my large drums for 30 years and it always amazed me hearing other drummers with smaller toms sound as good if not better than my larger drums. I'll just keep playing my kit for now.
Personally for most gigs I would prefer a small kit and even if I need a big sound I can put triggers on it and play samples of bigger drums if it’s absolutely required
That Decade Maple kit sounds awesome!!!! You really can't beat a 24 inch kick drum. I get it smaller drums are easier to lug around and you can make them sound good but you just get so much more low end from bigger drum sizes its worth it to me.
Excelent video, big drums smash your face and go straight to the point. Small drums are cool to play tighter and closer notes, and David has a point ... they are easier to transport
Im definitely a huge advocate for huge drums, im talking like John Bonham sizes. The one thing I don't like about Casey's kit is how low the snare is tuned though. I absolutely love the response and sound of a large, cranked snare.
It depends on your style of playing. In my band, I utilize a lot of tom fills that require me to have as many toms as I do. To me, less drums means that you have less sounds to play with and it limits what you can do. Sure, if you play a certain style, you can make a small kit sound great. But for a guy like me, I use my cymbals to accent the guitar tones and play big long fills at times that I couldn't possibly do on a 4 piece set with only a couple cymbals. Now, my drums aren't huge in size, but my overall kit is pretty sizeable.
Great Video! In This Video I think The Small Kit in Here Has Better Sound! But Overall My Favourite Is Big Drums I Bonham Fan So.. Bass Drum 26×14 14×10 Rack Tom 16×16 Floor Drum 16×18 Floor Drum and 14 Pork Pie Snare
The big drums sound to boxy but having hydraulic heads didn't help jmop .I play most of the time with my Yamaha hipgig with 16" kick punchy as all get out ... perfect for funk
As a guy who grew up in the punk rock scene, I gotta go with the smaller kit. Higher tones break through better I think, and I can't get the same tabletop tight sound from a deep snare than I can with a shallow one. With that said I've always hated how big boy toms go over the snare, I like my snare and I wanna hear it.
I think we can all agree you generally can tell a good drummer from a bad one by the way they set up the kit, not the SIZE / QUANTITY OF PIECES of it. (by that, I don't mean all bad drummers don't know how to set up their kit, or all good drummers spend hours adjusting their kit to their body) it depends on the muscles of who carries it AND the capacity of the vehicle that's transporting it, AND the musical requirements of the gig.
@@DavidColaDrums I've never heard a 13 tuned down so I want to know if it's possible. I've got a 10" snare maybe I'll make a video to see if I can make a fat snare with it haha
Drew Harper I have a 13x6 Ludwig Classic Maple snare and tuned low it honestly sounds better than most 14x6.5 that I’ve heard. Just putting in my two cents!
I just picked up the Tama Club Flyer. For the small venues. I noticed so much airspace. Being a Latin flavor Timbales/Conga player and drummer, thinking about. Infusing 2 together, with ensemble of hand instruments to fill.
Oh Hell Yea!! Alright....alright.....alright.......yea small drums for gigging, and Large dimension drums for recording, personal practice, and stationary kits. My studio kit that doesn't go any where, starts with a 14"diameter X 16" deep shell floor tom, next is a 16" X 16" floor tom, and then the 18" diameter X 16" deep shell floor tom, and finally a 20" diameter X 16" deep shell floor tom. This last drum was once a Mapex kick drum but the wood hoops were swapped out for original Slingerland 20" tom rims using Remo Pinstripe tom [NOT kick drum] head. yes there is a difference and yes Remo sells both versions. My kit has a pair of 24" diameter X 16" deep kicks. this kit has a massive sound that just encompasses you with sound big massive Booming Sound ! Perfect kit for getting your work-out on! Think of the kit set up like this- two floor toms in front of my snare drum, the 18" is on my right side and the 20" is on my left side. The two kick drums are out to the sides with slave pedals to kick them with, one pedal is a left footed slave and the other pedal is a right footed slave pedal. The pedals are custom built with roller bearings and ball bearings and they use the Trick Drums Zero latency drive shafts. Great video you two put put together, definitely makes a couple of points to All drummers. Peace & Care Paco
OK as far as my preferences... If we talk size then I gotta go with Taiko... but for quantity...I am biased because I have the black halo glitter kit (Casey’s fault).... and I definitely love watching awesome drummer’s surrounded by ridiculously large kits....but there’s room for everybody!
I love Big Drums but in Germany we say ,,besser haben wie brauchen" that means that when you have a thing that you don't need it is better than when you need a thing and you don't have it. I hope my english is not so bad.
I always get surprised comments as to how good my small kit sounds. The setup is an 18" kick, 14x5" snare, and 8, 10, 12" toms with a couple of 14" crashes, 12" hats, and an 18" ride. It's definitely nicer to transport than my big kit lol
Drum sizes all depend on what the gig requires...plain and simple....I have a huge setup in my basement. I'm not moving that kit around....22 bass drum 3 racks and 2 floors....local gigs means small kit.....again...all depends on what the gig requires
Fact , large drums if tuned properly and not in the basement can actually be considerably louder than small drums tuned the same, Bonham for example did not tune extra low. He tuned for rebounce and tone. The front head on his 26 was in fact somewhat tight !! It's also why a Supraphonic tuned up can actually hurt you !! or any other 6" deep snare .
I wouldn't mind a slightly bigger kick and the smaller set but that absolutely wins. Hands down that has more tone and clarity. Those big toms sound so muddy
Having played that Decade configuration and the Midtown configuration - Definitely prefer moving to Midtown over the decade, but preferred the low end beef from the decade. Big drums and drum sets are awesome until you're moving them multiple times a week and you don't have a tech. LOL. I stopped bringing my 18" floor out when I got a 14", because the sound wasn't being relayed through the PA. I could tune the 16" low enough to sound like an 18", and the 14" low enough to sound like a 14". Small kits shhhhhiiiinnnnneeee when you're gigging a lot (and in small spaces).
You can tell how hurt casey’s heart was when david roasted his playing😂
“It’s not the size of the boat, it’s the motion of the ocean” - Yoda
“Look, you can’t use being a beast at drums to further your point”. “Yes I can”
I gotta agree with David lol. We’re getting old gotta preserve our backs 😂
Heard that... Personal preference makes a big difference in your own playing I think.
@AutoMadoc Drummerboi Thank you so much! I should have new stuff coming soon! Welcome aboard :)
I’m a metal drummer with
8” 10” rack toms
14” floor Tom
18” bass drum
12” snare
I play fast so I like the quick response and I also like deeper small drums deep and a lot of attack
Big drums for recording and stationary set up, small drums for moving around.
When you say "BIG DRUMS" I think of a 8 piece kit
@@eliotrobinson9613 ya that works
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Both kits sound awesome in there own way!🥁❤
When I think of big drums bonham comes to mind.
"IT'S NOT THE 70'S ANYMORE CASEY" -COLA
It’s so great what you’re doing, giving him the recognition he deserves! I’ve watched him since he was a cruise performer as a drummer. Thanks Cooper!
Gotta give it to David on this one.. small is the way to go, so much fatter sounding and wayyy less overtones. Plus it’s just more visually pleasing too 😂
I know it’s subjective but why is smaller more visually pleasing?
david: "i have a small kit"
me: laughs in 16 13 10 13 jazz kit
Is that a club jam flyer by chance?
@@rosejuliette9180 I believe the sizes are 14 8 10 and idk about the snare
20" Kick, 13" & 16" Toms & 14 x 5" snare It's the perfect size for anything
This was a really fun video! But Neil is up in heaven laughing about who’s kit is bigger 😂
That’s what I was thinking 😂 man was a legend and still had like 12 drums!!
It might be the way it is mic'd up, but hot damn I love the sound of David's kit. For me it blows the other kit away, which also sound amazing. I'd go David's kit allllll the time.
And It looks better too ...
I agree with you too.
I could listen to these guys all day long........
This is where having variety and knowledge of your kit comes into play too. I own a Yamaha Recording custom with 10,12,13,16 and 24x18 with a 14x6.5 snare and it only comes out when the money is right. I used to use it on small gigs until a friend of mine at church said he had a Tama kit from his childhood that I should look at. 10,12,14, 18x16 kick with a 13x3.5 piccolo snare I was like yup. Whole kit minus hardware in 2 trips to the truck. It's a swing star which is not even in the ballpark of a recording custom but it's extremely easy to tune play setup and breakdown. I even played it in 2500 seat sized theater and the engineer couldn't believe the sound of the little monster.
Hahahaha "Casey but THEN... you start PLAYING"
I just imagine David's tight heads being SO much better feeling to play. His kick PUNCHES, too!
“size does not matter” - david cola
12” rack, 16” floor, 22” (or 20”) kick, 2 crashes, ride, China, and hi hats, is really all I need.
I love that people think smaller drums have a fuller sound. Tune those big boys the right way and there is no contest.
Love you both and your different styles keep rocking.
David’s kit is gorgeous
I'm a old guy.I like shallow (fast toms).Like David said,they have response.30yrs ago I had BIG drums(Deep Toms)My Starclassic kit I have now has a shallow toms,which to me sound so much better than those old Big drums
Settled: they sound the best together
“Are we gonna bring playing into this?” Lmao,
Imagine David Cola working at a drive through, and when you go to order, you hear, "welcome to _______, my name is david cola and I play the drums, what can I do for you?"
Strangely David’s drums have more depth lmao
Tuned better
David Cola is just simply AMAZING!! And Casey Cooper is a super cool guy to make this video happen.
The only place that little kit is going to place over a larger sized kits is listening via a cell phone where I guess the world wants to live so, sorry for your loss in the tonal world. It really is a cool place to live. DW Performance - 24 x 18 Kick, 12 X 9, 13 x 10, 16 x 16 and 18x 16.
The introo! It remembers me .... MASTER PHIL COLLINS DRUM SOLO!!!!🔥🔥🥁🥁
I agree with David for sure. I have gotten a killer sound out of both an 18" and a 20" kick. Smaller drum sqaud for life
Bruh, both drums sounds awesome!!
Small drums are like a toys. Big drums for big boys
This was hilarious 😂🤣 you guys are great sarcastic comedy together!!!
The most important aspect is smaller drums can cutthrough mix easily and if smaller drums made out of Birch,walnut,beech etc then it will rise above every instrument in the mix with warm dark punch and piercing top end......
Great video, guys! Preference and style...it can all be so subjective. Loved the banter...so much fun!
I got to admit it, I think David is right. I've had my large drums for 30 years and it always amazed me hearing other drummers with smaller toms sound as good if not better than my larger drums. I'll just keep playing my kit for now.
Fun to watch you two "banter," but also you two sounded really great together at the end!
Personally for most gigs I would prefer a small kit and even if I need a big sound I can put triggers on it and play samples of bigger drums if it’s absolutely required
This video was fantastic!
I've got to improve on my BEAST MODE😂🤣😭
David's got some of us looking like we don't try😂🤣
David's drums sound so nice ngl
That Decade Maple kit sounds awesome!!!! You really can't beat a 24 inch kick drum. I get it smaller drums are easier to lug around and you can make them sound good but you just get so much more low end from bigger drum sizes its worth it to me.
I love the toms of big drums and snare and kick of small drums
Hey coop! Love the vids man keep it up
Casey Cooper: Hi my name is Casey Cooper and I like BIG DRUMS.
David Cola: Hi my name is David Cola and I like small drums.
Loved the video and i go with david cause tiny drums are easier to carry and is fun to play!!!
Yep, tiny drums but more cymbals.
Excelent video, big drums smash your face and go straight to the point. Small drums are cool to play tighter and closer notes, and David has a point ... they are easier to transport
I would love to hear how they sound in a mix with a band. Range of styles. I’m sure each kit will own a genre.
Im definitely a huge advocate for huge drums, im talking like John Bonham sizes. The one thing I don't like about Casey's kit is how low the snare is tuned though. I absolutely love the response and sound of a large, cranked snare.
Theres nothing like playing big toms... 14 16 18... will be my next custom build someday and a 12 and 20 just for kicks.
Cola is such a great drummer!
It depends on your style of playing. In my band, I utilize a lot of tom fills that require me to have as many toms as I do. To me, less drums means that you have less sounds to play with and it limits what you can do. Sure, if you play a certain style, you can make a small kit sound great. But for a guy like me, I use my cymbals to accent the guitar tones and play big long fills at times that I couldn't possibly do on a 4 piece set with only a couple cymbals. Now, my drums aren't huge in size, but my overall kit is pretty sizeable.
The best way to travel with drums is call the opening act and ask if you can use their kit. Then only bring a snare and sticks. Woooohoo!
I would take David’s setup
David is just on whole another level.. Great drummer!
Great Video! In This Video I think The Small Kit in Here Has Better Sound!
But Overall My Favourite Is Big Drums I Bonham Fan So..
Bass Drum 26×14
14×10 Rack Tom
16×16 Floor Drum
16×18 Floor Drum
and 14 Pork Pie Snare
10x12x16 toms are the perfect sizes and i am NOT wrong.
The big drums sound to boxy but having hydraulic heads didn't help jmop .I play most of the time with my Yamaha hipgig with 16" kick punchy as all get out ... perfect for funk
I remember when Coop3r had the huge kits
As a guy who grew up in the punk rock scene, I gotta go with the smaller kit. Higher tones break through better I think, and I can't get the same tabletop tight sound from a deep snare than I can with a shallow one. With that said I've always hated how big boy toms go over the snare, I like my snare and I wanna hear it.
Yes
Love watching you play Casey big fan
I think we can all agree you generally can tell a good drummer from a bad one by the way they set up the kit, not the SIZE / QUANTITY OF PIECES of it.
(by that, I don't mean all bad drummers don't know how to set up their kit, or all good drummers spend hours adjusting their kit to their body)
it depends on the muscles of who carries it AND the capacity of the vehicle that's transporting it, AND the musical requirements of the gig.
The groove at 4:15 reminds me so much of scentless apprentice because of the size of those drums
I love both kits.
Okay so David I want to hear that 13 inch snare tuned low and fat. I gotta know if it actually can be tuned big
I’ll get on that 🙂
@@DavidColaDrums I've never heard a 13 tuned down so I want to know if it's possible. I've got a 10" snare maybe I'll make a video to see if I can make a fat snare with it haha
Drew Harper I have a 13x6 Ludwig Classic Maple snare and tuned low it honestly sounds better than most 14x6.5 that I’ve heard. Just putting in my two cents!
@AutoMadoc Drummerboi thanks I hope you enjoy my videos too
Big drums for everything, live and studio 👍
It all boils down to what sound do you want and are going for.
I just picked up the Tama Club Flyer. For the small venues. I noticed so much airspace. Being a Latin flavor Timbales/Conga player and drummer, thinking about. Infusing 2 together, with ensemble of hand instruments to fill.
I like big drums and I cannot lie.
Both drummers are good, but David's setup is better. 🥁💙😎👍
Oh Hell Yea!! Alright....alright.....alright.......yea small drums for gigging, and Large dimension drums for recording, personal practice, and stationary kits. My studio kit that doesn't go any where, starts with a 14"diameter X 16" deep shell floor tom, next is a 16" X 16" floor tom, and then the 18" diameter X 16" deep shell floor tom, and finally a 20" diameter X 16" deep shell floor tom. This last drum was once a Mapex kick drum but the wood hoops were swapped out for original Slingerland 20" tom rims using Remo Pinstripe tom [NOT kick drum] head. yes there is a difference and yes Remo sells both versions. My kit has a pair of 24" diameter X 16" deep kicks. this kit has a massive sound that just encompasses you with sound big massive Booming Sound ! Perfect kit for getting your work-out on! Think of the kit set up like this- two floor toms in front of my snare drum, the 18" is on my right side and the 20" is on my left side. The two kick drums are out to the sides with slave pedals to kick them with, one pedal is a left footed slave and the other pedal is a right footed slave pedal. The pedals are custom built with roller bearings and ball bearings and they use the Trick Drums Zero latency drive shafts. Great video you two put put together, definitely makes a couple of points to All drummers. Peace & Care Paco
Oii Sou muito Your fan from Brazil. I really wanted to hear you playing, the police every breath you take.🇧🇷❤️
You can’t use being a beast at the drums to further your point lol 😂
OK as far as my preferences... If we talk size then I gotta go with Taiko... but for quantity...I am biased because I have the black halo glitter kit (Casey’s fault).... and I definitely love watching awesome drummer’s surrounded by ridiculously large kits....but there’s room for everybody!
Gotta go watch this again with my headphones on. Your floor tom might have beat the kick drum out. lol. Love Cola's kit though.
Gotta say the small kit was a winner just because it was at the disadvantage and sounded so full and sweet.
I own a big beat kit so I’m surprised
I've seen drummers play tiny kits.......when they are miked up they sound immense.....it really doesn't matter.......how big or small the drums are.
Personaly you give me the cola's snare and the tom, kick of caesy with the two kit cymbal, I'll be f*cking happy 😂
MATTMCGUIRE VS COOPER
Matt would destroy him if he takes it serious. David vs Matt would be epic!
That would be an Awesome challenge!!!
I love Big Drums but in Germany we say ,,besser haben wie brauchen" that means that when you have a thing that you don't need it is better than when you need a thing and you don't have it. I hope my english is not so bad.
"my snare is 3" deeper than your snare drum."
"what are you trying to say?"
"i don't know"
Stillwatching after a few years.😄
BRACE YOURSELFS!!!....I enjoy MEDIUM DRUMS!
@DojoToxic My favorite kit for gigging was my Purecussion...but Who doesn’t live more drums (except if you have to carry them)
What do you consider medium ?
@@dariojr14 like 2 racktoms and a bigger kick
Brace Yourselves!... I enjoy AIR DRUMS!
@@ytp7470 The smallest and lightest of all!
Hey Cooper the dude did you steal my drum sticks bro 😳👽😱
I agree with both but I like little bit bigger than David’s size
That small kick is a beast
I always get surprised comments as to how good my small kit sounds. The setup is an 18" kick, 14x5" snare, and 8, 10, 12" toms with a couple of 14" crashes, 12" hats, and an 18" ride. It's definitely nicer to transport than my big kit lol
Are those Evans Hyrdaulic or Remo Colortone? I thought I could see a hint of the gold Evans logo, until the angle changed briefly
Drum sizes all depend on what the gig requires...plain and simple....I have a huge setup in my basement. I'm not moving that kit around....22 bass drum 3 racks and 2 floors....local gigs means small kit.....again...all depends on what the gig requires
@6:02 biggest roast lol
Fact , large drums if tuned properly and not in the basement can actually be considerably louder than small drums tuned the same, Bonham for example did not tune extra low. He tuned for rebounce and tone. The front head on his 26 was in fact somewhat tight !! It's also why a Supraphonic tuned up can actually hurt you !! or any other 6" deep snare .
I wouldn't mind a slightly bigger kick and the smaller set but that absolutely wins. Hands down that has more tone and clarity. Those big toms sound so muddy
Now that I have seen the whole video, I think I like 2 sets the best.
Finally Coopers "skills" got rekted by a good drummer! Thanks David
I want a questlove kit so bad
My name is Casey Coomer & I’m also a drummer! Just one letter off! 👍👍
I kind of in-between when it comes to sizes. My drum sizes are 20x18 bass drum, 12x9 tom 16x16 floor tom
Having played that Decade configuration and the Midtown configuration - Definitely prefer moving to Midtown over the decade, but preferred the low end beef from the decade.
Big drums and drum sets are awesome until you're moving them multiple times a week and you don't have a tech. LOL. I stopped bringing my 18" floor out when I got a 14", because the sound wasn't being relayed through the PA. I could tune the 16" low enough to sound like an 18", and the 14" low enough to sound like a 14".
Small kits shhhhhiiiinnnnneeee when you're gigging a lot (and in small spaces).
Bot kits sound awesome!