Jerec's actor really has a strong presence here. A pity most modern gamers will never know these kinds of stories. Also, his actor Christopher Neame played Marc Anthony once. Makes it all the more fitting that he's trying to be Emperor after Palpatine died.
I always think of Christopher Neame as Skagra, from the unfinished Doctor Who story, Shada. Being unfinished and a Tom Baker/Douglas Adams story had the benefit of making it notorious and constantly revisited for home video releases. Neame has probably been paid ten fold what he received for the job initially after royalties and new voice performances are factored in.
Neame was also one of actors associated with Hammer Horror. He played few roles in some of their gothic horror movies. He was cool in "Dracula A. D. 1972".
@@wedgeantilles4712 I was SO HOPING Jason Court was going to be asked to reprise the character of Kyle Katarn in Rogue One; since, I believed that Jan Ors could have been Jyn Erso in disguise, under an assumed name. I would have loved Kyle's story to be officially canon, and see him at Luke Skywalker's Jedi Academy. It would have been great to have heard his voice and lines of dialogue from this video game in SW: Rebels, when Ezra was walking through the World Between Worlds.
Boc is truly a villain we need im Star Wars cinema, that laugh and his facial expressions give away the fact that he is truly unhinged. We need a lunatic of a villain on screen in Star Wars
Acting, costumes, light, camera work, script writing/story telling are still part of the art, that can't be replaced by technical progress. I don't even say, that writing really good script requires a human, that read a huge amount of texts, concepts, who has rational, logical and still creative mind. There are not so many writers, who really can be called intelligent. Ignoring those simple facts often make movies suck hard. And not only them. Technical progress make it easy for "idiots" (not literally) to make an input into human's world culture, but it's not always leads to their personal progress. In short words, I wanna say: no, it's not so easy to create even today by fans on the same level (except lightsabers, chromakey, maybe costumes, some 3D effects).
Thing is these cutscenes were made by people at Lucasfilm who were true creatives back then. Remember this was made off of a video-game budget and it was all about making money but coming up with original stories for Star Wars games. If you really look at Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors Disney ripped off alot of elements for those specific characters, for Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso in Rogue One.
I so wanted Kyle Katarn (and The Crow) to be a part of Rogue One. He and Jyn (aka, Jan Ors?) would have been magic. I hope he can at least be part of Rebels.
snek Funny, someone else recently said that Rogue One's Cassian was the avatar for Katarn. In either case, I don't see how: Neither was a former Imperial Military cadet, nor defected, nor owned their own starship, nor had a hidden Jedi/Force connection, nor later on became a member of Luke's New Jedi Order. Kanan will, in all likelihood, be dead before the Episode IV time period, and Cassian IS already gone. So, there really aren't ANY direct elements of Kyle Katarn within either of the two characters. With that thinking, the only character who seems, in any way, to correlate to Kyle Katarn is Agent Kallus: He is a former loyal to The Empire, realized the error of his ways, defected and became a Rebel Spy, then officially joined The Rebellion about 2 years prior to The Battle of Yavin. Now, if we've had Our Katarn right under our noses for 3 Seasons, in the form of Kallus, that would be a (kind of) stroke of genius...though, it still wouldn't make sense to change the character's origins, if the intent all along WAS to introduce Kyle Katarn in to the official SW Canon. They had no issue bringing Thrawn, pretty much as is, in to the fold w/out renaming/retconning his type. Also, others have said that Jyn Erso is the Canon version of Jan Ors...then why alter the name and origin? I actually expected to find out that one of the aliases Jyn lived under was "Jan Ors"...but, no cigar. I get the feeling Disney/Lucasfilm just doesn't want an historically-Canonically-interesting, impactful character, who really flourished during the OT era and later in the Sequel Trilogy era, decidedly affecting the past and their long-term plans overall. We'll see...
@@harrambou9468 eh, in game it makes sense. Yun is the first dark Jedi you fight, and Kyle spares him. Sacrificing himself to give Kyle a fighting chance is his moment of redemption.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n I'm sorry, but that's completely consistent with even pre-prequel depictions of the Dark Side. It isn't just pulling from a different part of the Force, falling to the dark side warps everything about a person. It's corruptive, and freshly fallen darksiders have been depicted killing prior friends for the most minor of failures, or even just to sever attachments to their old lives. Always have been, as far back as draft notes for the original trilogy and Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Cheesy? Yes, but it's fucking Star Wars, and if you expected anything else I don't know what to tell you.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n she was captured. She was a hostage being used to assert power over him. She was a connection to his past, take your pick. Palpatine disposed of even the family members he had nothing against prior to becoming a Sith. Luke, upon being nearly corrupted during Dark Empire, felt an urge to strike down Han for simply disagreeing with him. Dark Siders maintaining attachments as we see them are actually a pretty new idea, and largely an invention of Dave Filoni.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n I know it's weird, but Star Wars is a weird place. If you're connected to the space magic, things that would be totally normal for other people (like being angry when killing someone involved in killing your dad) will twist you into a Space Hitler.
There are patches w. updated graphics for worlds and characters, which makes it very enjoyable to these days too. Graphics is similar to "Dark Forces III" / Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast.
just imagine what kind of power Jerec could have unleashed if he'd been able to gain the full power of the Valley! He'd be a God reshaping the Star Wars Galaxy as he saw fit!
Kyle Katarn meditated in the Valley later and he became ridiculously, Chuck Norris level powerful. He was a Battlemaster (official master of all lightsaber styles) and casually used light side and dark side powers like it didn't matter to his alignment
Absolutely loved this game! I really hope they make a film between Episode 6 and 7 around Kyle Katarn, Jan Ors, and Mara Jade; they so could! Just get the actors from this game :D
I had forgotten how good this was made! Sure brings back good memories as the PC and gaming were rolling forward toward its current state. Thanks for posting this!
Amp661 I’d get where you’d be coming from if you said Dark Empire, the Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Nest, Legacy of the Force and such are the true ST. But Dark Forces 2? A game where literally no familiar element from the films appear at all? That just sounds crazy
@@Alex-ji6ob well it plays after episode 6 and dark forces the first game it said kyle stole the plans of the death star And jedi outcast and jedi academy kinda connect
Except there are 5 games in the series. You've forgotten Dark Forces (the original game) and Mysteries of the Sith (the standalone expansion of Jedi Knight).
Wish they would bring Kyle Katarn back + this story. I don't care if it's not canon anymore that Kyle didn't get the Death Star plans, Dark Forces II's storyline is far more important to his character than those bloody plans. However, if they did want to make that part of his story semi-canon, then they could just somehow make him one of the Rebel survivors from Rogue One, or one of the captives from Tantive IV.
Hell, they could have just cut him getting the plans and had his crippling of the Dark Trooper project be the reason he's a legend to begin with, as DTs are in the Disneycanon. That said, I wouldn't trust Disney to touch this character (or Mara Jade) with a ten foot pole.
A stormtrooper once tried to shoot Kyle with a blaster rifle. But the projectiles were too scared to leave the weapon. After an intense struggle. The blaster rifle backfired and killed the stormtrooper in the process
They should of made this into a movie itself, as I really enjoyed the game and the story was good. I also like the 'Dark' element it has throughout as it gives atmosphere, depth towards the film and makes it more real.
I wouldn't say that "multicultural feminism" ruined Star Wars, but rather, multi-demographic appeal. Star Wars (and nerd/geek culture in general, especially sci-fi) was a niche demographic, a demographic that desired intellect and allegory in their entertainment -- or at the very least, epic world building with deep and meaningful characters. Then came along the prequel trilogy, which tried to follow the original's worst aspect: make a movie to sell toys. Enter kid appeal and narm. This is actually what killed Star Wars for me; and this is coming from the guy who read most of the EU novels (BoY-10 to BoY+24 timeline), TotJ + DE comics, and played Jedi Knight and X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter series. Then an even worse aspect came along: superhero movies. What was formally geek culture was put on the big screen, loaded with beautiful Hollywood actors and CGI, and now your favorite action scenes (complete with fights, chases, explosions, and repeat) could be seen live-action. Throw in some obligatory romance (for the female 16-49 demographic) and narm/slapstick humor (for the kid appeal), and you have the typical superhero movie. And worst of all, it worked -- Avengers is a billion-dollar box-office hit. So cue the Hollywood formula: Avengers worked, so let's keep making every single known IP into the Avengers, even if it's completely unrelated. The last Star Trek movie (which I've only "seen" via SciFiDebris review) was basically Avengers in space, because that's exactly what the studio wanted and demanded, and Star Wars is no exception. The general public want a "feel good movie" where they can watch a CG light and sound show for 2 hours -- especially if there's a nostalgia element to it (but the flood of remakes are a different beast altogether) -- and that's what sells. Combine all those aspects, and you have a pure formula for a pure product. That's my reasoning of the "it's popular, now it sucks" mentality: art is made via a creator's vision and gains meaning via a reader's understanding/interpretation, but when a creative process follows a formula to gain mass demographic appeal or cash grab, it becomes a mass-marked product, along with the blandness and staleness that follows.
Alex Greaney Empire vs. Rebels. Clear good guy vs. bad guy, underdog nobody in rags rising to topple the emperor. It’s very simplistic, and not particularly challenging for the mind to grasp. Granted, that’s not a bad thing, it doesn’t necessarily need to be, but the prequels did have a more complex plot line where good and evil weren’t so easily delineated. There were heroes and villains on both sides, which is a bit more realistic, and it had subtle yet nuanced political commentary warning us of centralizing too much power in any one authority figure. Plus, you had this really intricate plot of how Palpatine created Anakin with his Master, all the way up to killing Padme to sustain Anakin long enough for him to transform into Vader. He’s a political mastermind and an expert swordsman and a master of the Force. And he’s so satisfying to watch. Anakin too, in spite of the forced romance, has a pretty deep character. From his point of view, it really looks like the Jedi are no better than the Sith, and that’s partly because in some ways they had become too corrupt and partly because Palpatine was only selectively showing him the negative aspects of the old order and ignoring the negatives of his own side and the positives of the Jedi. There’s just a lot more to dissect and analyze with the prequels than with the originals.
I still cringe when the Crow goes down....poor ship. Good old 'Katarn Loophole' arm the injured bad guy who you want to kill knowing he can't resist the temptation nd when you do kill him..it was self defense.
The timeline of this fan made favorite movie takes place one year after episode VI before the time of the mandalorian. This is canon to me in Star Wars.
You are close. First off it's the cutscenes of an actual game that is canon in the Legends timeline, but yeah it takes place in 5 ABY, one year after RotJ. Mandalorian takes place in 9 ABY, 4 years after this but in the Canon timeline.
Jedi Outcast was superior. But I enjoyed this one as well because you had to use your head a bit to find secret areas and select the force powers you needed
First Kyle unwittingly lets the Valley of the Jedi be known to Jerec. Then he unwittingly leads Desann into the Valley of the Jedi. Then one of his apprentices, Rosh, gets captured in Byss, and his other apprentice Jaden nearly falls to the Dark Side. This guy has the shittiest luck in the SW universe.
Part of me wonders if it was shitty luck, or him just making excuses to continue being a badass... Kyle to Luke probably "Yeah, you might've gotten your father to return to the light, but let's face it, you wouldn't last five minutes fighting me in a 1v1... On second thought, you keep doing your Jedi bullshit in fucking bathrobes, I'm gonna go back to being a one man army against anything the remnant can throw at me"
@@3dpyromaniac560 Luke would crush Kyle in a 1v1. Kyle had problems defeating some Dark Jedi Inquisitor, Luke was holding back against Vader and in Dark Empire, even defeated a younger, rejuvenated Emperor.
Thank you so much dark forces I & II are my favorite pc games from the 90's i remenber been fall in love with the beautiful asian girl of the game the actress angela harry ❤ really a game to be remenbered great gameplay and so many hours of ecxitment playing kyle katarn in sw universe.
In fairness you lose out on several of the cutscenes in the Dark Side path, like there's simply no Dark alternative to them. Jan gets executed and we see Kyle manage to not crash the Moldy Crow, and then we don't really get anything else until the Emperor Katarn ending in place of the Kyle frees the spirits one on the light path.
man i remember when this was high tech gaming. back then this intro was insane hehehe, still awesome to this day. kyle katarn needs to come back into canon
I remember seeing the previews of this in some gaming magazine back in the day and seeing the WIP shot of 8t88's shuttle sitting on the landing pad and the sad confirmation that Boba Fett would not be appearing in the game despite rumors to the contrary.
I would never let Disney put their filthy hands on Katarns legacy. I'd rather an independent filmaker {who doesnt give a shit about money and has the right mindset} to do the movie. It isn't happening, so i'm happy with this. it could be a LOT worse.
The sequel to this game is right up your alley then. Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith, a standalone expansion pack (from back when that was what it was called) to this game that picks up a few years later. You start off as Kyle with Mara Jade as your apprentice before Kyle leaves on a secret mission a few levels in and the main character role swaps to Mara for the rest of the game. Sadly no FMV cutscenes like this game, it was all done in-game, but there you have it. A non-Disney Star Wars entry starring both Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade together.
It makes since why they didn't have Kyle in rogue one, they wanted a full length movie, if it was Kyle it would be 15 minutes at most, even then most of it would be him just dominating the stormtroopers because he is Kyle mother fucking Katarn
Ok please don't judge me I'm just getting into Kyle's story. But all the cuts are just game footage from the game right? If not I'm sorry I don't know. Like the fist clip of him running to get his father disc to where he's on the ship in the med bay was just the cutsceans between game play correct? Please do correct me if I'm wrong
Correct, these are the beginning and ending cutscenes of the various levels in the games. The missing bits are the levels themselves. For example, there's an entire level of Kyle chasing 8t88 down between the two of them talking in the bar booth and Kyle blasting the arm off. Essentially the cutscenes are the "I'm at the place and need to go to the next place/do the thing" part of the story, with the gameplay covering the actual doing of the thing or going to the place before the next cutscene kicks in with "now that I'm at the place/done the thing I can continue with mission"
Jedi Knight was the game that made me obsessed with games and, given that I didn’t have the movies on home video, it was my primary Star Wars content for years. I replay it annually and love it in the way that you can only love a thing you spent every single day with after school when you were 7. That said all the people in these comments talking about how brilliant and high quality this story is and how it’s better than the Disney movies are hilariously sad and a perfect example of why people fucking hate Star Wars fans. Never change guys. 😂
Could anyone tell me if the Music on 10:17 is also written by John Williams? I recognized that piece in something else. A spoken Word Radio Play. And I can’t find anything about it. Maybe it’s even License free?
Katarn: A Star Wars Story
The movie we need but will never get
Brian Barlow we shall see
@Brian Barlow And it will be a transgender Grey Jedi. He/she will also have a girlfriend/boyfriend.
@Brian Barlow Yeah, I work for Disney;)
@Brian Barlow Thank you sir, you too:D
We already have it here. All we need is the game remade with JKA graphics.
This guys is still one of my favorite star wars characters, canon or no canon.
I agree. Same for me too.
He’s my favorite Jedi aside from Kenobi
@@DarthInsomnis he's my favorite, even considering kenobi.
He is canon Disney can go fuck off
This and everything in the expanded universe is canon to me. Disney in my opinion ruined the lore of Star Wars
Watching this in 2024. Such a classic
"He is a Jedi... he deserves a battle"
That is the most darkside-to-lightside moment ever!
Im no jedi. Im just a guy with a lightsaber with a few questions
-Kyle Katarn
Never trust a bartender with bad grammar
Jerec's actor really has a strong presence here. A pity most modern gamers will never know these kinds of stories. Also, his actor Christopher Neame played Marc Anthony once. Makes it all the more fitting that he's trying to be Emperor after Palpatine died.
I always think of Christopher Neame as Skagra, from the unfinished Doctor Who story, Shada. Being unfinished and a Tom Baker/Douglas Adams story had the benefit of making it notorious and constantly revisited for home video releases. Neame has probably been paid ten fold what he received for the job initially after royalties and new voice performances are factored in.
Neame was also one of actors associated with Hammer Horror. He played few roles in some of their gothic horror movies. He was cool in "Dracula A. D. 1972".
@@michal13121996ify Hammer Horror. Like Christopher Lee.
@@HolyknightVader999 Yup. Neame played alongside Lee in "Dracula A. D. 1972".
My early childhood in about 30 mins. Beautiful
This movies soundtrack
86% Return of the jedi
10% Empire strikes back
4% A new hope
It's true!
The actor of Kyle its a clasic bad ass/funny/talkative hero, he is awesome.
Jason Court.
@@wedgeantilles4712 I was SO HOPING Jason Court was going to be asked to reprise the character of Kyle Katarn in Rogue One; since, I believed that Jan Ors could have been Jyn Erso in disguise, under an assumed name. I would have loved Kyle's story to be officially canon, and see him at Luke Skywalker's Jedi Academy. It would have been great to have heard his voice and lines of dialogue from this video game in SW: Rebels, when Ezra was walking through the World Between Worlds.
None of that Disney shit is canon, and it never will be and NO ONE will EVER convince me otherwise.
Princess Marshella: I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I.e. he has charisma
Now THIS IS Star Wars..!!!
lol yep
Still better than tlj
The falling ship is one of the most exciting levels that I ever played. It was decades later that a uncharted game got close.
100% agree. It was a crazy intuitive level for its time and the sense of urgency to escape really helped make it fun for me as a kid.
@@SpScarletSpider Especially considering it has multiple paths through the level you could take, adding to the sense of being lost in a falling ship.
Dark Forces a REAL Star Wars story.
@ThatPurpleFunk the extended universe is a jewel
no it’s not it’s trash
@@bloo6434 Says that while Rey is downloading all her force/fighting skill and becoming the greatest/powerfulest Jedi ever
@@Gdsryrox too late Qu rahn return in canon in obi wan series only mention name in wall.
@@bloo6434 🤓
Boc is truly a villain we need im Star Wars cinema, that laugh and his facial expressions give away the fact that he is truly unhinged. We need a lunatic of a villain on screen in Star Wars
We do. He's right here. Take it or leave it.
For those of us hardcore fans this was all we had back then, and sadly its part of all we have left now today in 2020.
The graphics and movie special effects are outdated, but the gameplay and story were awesome! Truly it was a great game.
Feels weird that this could be fanmade by today's standard. Time sure moves fast :)
Niborino9409 it sure could. These cutscenes sure haven't aged well although they are still fun to watch.
Acting, costumes, light, camera work, script writing/story telling are still part of the art, that can't be replaced by technical progress. I don't even say, that writing really good script requires a human, that read a huge amount of texts, concepts, who has rational, logical and still creative mind. There are not so many writers, who really can be called intelligent.
Ignoring those simple facts often make movies suck hard. And not only them. Technical progress make it easy for "idiots" (not literally) to make an input into human's world culture, but it's not always leads to their personal progress. In short words, I wanna say: no, it's not so easy to create even today by fans on the same level (except lightsabers, chromakey, maybe costumes, some 3D effects).
Thing is these cutscenes were made by people at Lucasfilm who were true creatives back then. Remember this was made off of a video-game budget and it was all about making money but coming up with original stories for Star Wars games.
If you really look at Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors Disney ripped off alot of elements for those specific characters, for Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso in Rogue One.
there are fan films with significantly better production than this.
@@RaikenXionWhat elements here?
It has not aged well, but holy crap, it feels better than the new trilogy
if only there was a way for fans to communicate ideas with LucasFilm
Looked terrible since whenever this hqppened
I so wanted Kyle Katarn (and The Crow) to be a part of Rogue One. He and Jyn (aka, Jan Ors?) would have been magic. I hope he can at least be part of Rebels.
He's not canon anymore m8.
Not yet! *cries*
AnthonyUA-camFan Kanan is the new Kyle Katarn
snek Funny, someone else recently said that Rogue One's Cassian was the avatar for Katarn. In either case, I don't see how: Neither was a former Imperial Military cadet, nor defected, nor owned their own starship, nor had a hidden Jedi/Force connection, nor later on became a member of Luke's New Jedi Order. Kanan will, in all likelihood, be dead before the Episode IV time period, and Cassian IS already gone. So, there really aren't ANY direct elements of Kyle Katarn within either of the two characters. With that thinking, the only character who seems, in any way, to correlate to Kyle Katarn is Agent Kallus: He is a former loyal to The Empire, realized the error of his ways, defected and became a Rebel Spy, then officially joined The Rebellion about 2 years prior to The Battle of Yavin. Now, if we've had Our Katarn right under our noses for 3 Seasons, in the form of Kallus, that would be a (kind of) stroke of genius...though, it still wouldn't make sense to change the character's origins, if the intent all along WAS to introduce Kyle Katarn in to the official SW Canon. They had no issue bringing Thrawn, pretty much as is, in to the fold w/out renaming/retconning his type. Also, others have said that Jyn Erso is the Canon version of Jan Ors...then why alter the name and origin? I actually expected to find out that one of the aliases Jyn lived under was "Jan Ors"...but, no cigar. I get the feeling Disney/Lucasfilm just doesn't want an historically-Canonically-interesting, impactful character, who really flourished during the OT era and later in the Sequel Trilogy era, decidedly affecting the past and their long-term plans overall. We'll see...
I think Cassian and Jyn were allusions to Kyle and Jan.
"He's a Jedi, he deserves a battle..." HOW DID DISNEY FUCK UP SO BAD?!??!!!
This man died just to say that 😂 I’m sorry but no
@@harrambou9468 eh, in game it makes sense. Yun is the first dark Jedi you fight, and Kyle spares him.
Sacrificing himself to give Kyle a fighting chance is his moment of redemption.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n I'm sorry, but that's completely consistent with even pre-prequel depictions of the Dark Side. It isn't just pulling from a different part of the Force, falling to the dark side warps everything about a person. It's corruptive, and freshly fallen darksiders have been depicted killing prior friends for the most minor of failures, or even just to sever attachments to their old lives. Always have been, as far back as draft notes for the original trilogy and Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
Cheesy? Yes, but it's fucking Star Wars, and if you expected anything else I don't know what to tell you.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n she was captured. She was a hostage being used to assert power over him. She was a connection to his past, take your pick.
Palpatine disposed of even the family members he had nothing against prior to becoming a Sith. Luke, upon being nearly corrupted during Dark Empire, felt an urge to strike down Han for simply disagreeing with him.
Dark Siders maintaining attachments as we see them are actually a pretty new idea, and largely an invention of Dave Filoni.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n I know it's weird, but Star Wars is a weird place. If you're connected to the space magic, things that would be totally normal for other people (like being angry when killing someone involved in killing your dad) will twist you into a Space Hitler.
I never realized that Kyle Katarn was a master sculptor with a lightsaber. He was a star wars Michelangelo.
Now this game is definitely dated, but when it first came out it was awesome. It’s corny as hell, but still remains one of my Star Wars games.
There are patches w. updated graphics for worlds and characters, which makes it very enjoyable to these days too. Graphics is similar to "Dark Forces III" / Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast.
Corniness is just part of the classic Star Wars charm.
just imagine what kind of power Jerec could have unleashed if he'd been able to gain the full power of the Valley! He'd be a God reshaping the Star Wars Galaxy as he saw fit!
Disney makes sense now
If Anakin had gained that power.... Palpatine would have had no power over him.
Yeah but only so that Grandmaster Luke Skywalker appears to beat him easily
Rey will strike him down with the power of female.
Kyle Katarn meditated in the Valley later and he became ridiculously, Chuck Norris level powerful.
He was a Battlemaster (official master of all lightsaber styles) and casually used light side and dark side powers like it didn't matter to his alignment
Jan was such a better character than Rose.
Jafroboy much better looking too
I agree, however some people say that she’s as annoying as Jar Jar was and i disagree with that, i was ok with Rose but Jan is better
Why would you compare them, because they are Asian women? They literally have nothing to do with each other besides that.
@@EntryLevelLuxury - Except one is a valuable character who is integral to the plot, and one is not.
@@mr.popper9759 The actress, Angela Harry, was born in Japan to an american father and korean mother.
Absolutely loved this game! I really hope they make a film between Episode 6 and 7 around Kyle Katarn, Jan Ors, and Mara Jade; they so could! Just get the actors from this game :D
20 years ago bro they Gona be lil older 😅
@The SNES Man trust me, everyone feels the same as you because it’s true
@Soundwave o...you don’t say 😕
Jerrec is more badass than Kylo. Boc is an evil JarJar. Mostly all these characters are far more interesting than the Disney reboot, story included.
Jerec is inquisitor and kylo ren is dark jedi.
@@alex.pvsz1727 kylo is whiney bitch
Jerec would kill that punk in 2 seconds
Yun is more intimidating than Kylo Ren.
@@Shitty_Pickle that is mean, but true unfortunately.
I had forgotten how good this was made! Sure brings back good memories as the PC and gaming were rolling forward toward its current state. Thanks for posting this!
such a classic star wars story. Long live the EU.
Long live kathleen kennedy????
This could've been a great movie. But no we got Star Disney Wars.
The true Episode VII!
Amp661 I’d get where you’d be coming from if you said Dark Empire, the Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Nest, Legacy of the Force and such are the true ST.
But Dark Forces 2? A game where literally no familiar element from the films appear at all? That just sounds crazy
@@Alex-ji6ob it connects though to the rest.
@@Mikemic2218 but not the films.
@@Alex-ji6ob well it plays after episode 6 and dark forces the first game it said kyle stole the plans of the death star
And jedi outcast and jedi academy kinda connect
DMG Mana that doesn’t warrant it being an episode 7
This game--no, the whole Jedi Knight trilogy--invented my childhood.
Except there are 5 games in the series. You've forgotten Dark Forces (the original game) and Mysteries of the Sith (the standalone expansion of Jedi Knight).
The greatest legend in all of Star Wars lore
Wish they would bring Kyle Katarn back + this story. I don't care if it's not canon anymore that Kyle didn't get the Death Star plans, Dark Forces II's storyline is far more important to his character than those bloody plans. However, if they did want to make that part of his story semi-canon, then they could just somehow make him one of the Rebel survivors from Rogue One, or one of the captives from Tantive IV.
Hell, they could have just cut him getting the plans and had his crippling of the Dark Trooper project be the reason he's a legend to begin with, as DTs are in the Disneycanon.
That said, I wouldn't trust Disney to touch this character (or Mara Jade) with a ten foot pole.
Time to revive Star Wars legends
EXPANDED UNIVERSE
cant believe these were the first live action inquisitors in star wars
I forgot how many cutscenes were in this awesome game
Kyle Katarn the best Star Wars Character ever
A stormtrooper once tried to shoot Kyle with a blaster rifle. But the projectiles were too scared to leave the weapon. After an intense struggle. The blaster rifle backfired and killed the stormtrooper in the process
They should of made this into a movie itself, as I really enjoyed the game and the story was good. I also like the 'Dark' element it has throughout as it gives atmosphere, depth towards the film and makes it more real.
TableWrens the fuck is a lanky? what are you a limmey?
I wouldn't say that "multicultural feminism" ruined Star Wars, but rather, multi-demographic appeal. Star Wars (and nerd/geek culture in general, especially sci-fi) was a niche demographic, a demographic that desired intellect and allegory in their entertainment -- or at the very least, epic world building with deep and meaningful characters.
Then came along the prequel trilogy, which tried to follow the original's worst aspect: make a movie to sell toys. Enter kid appeal and narm. This is actually what killed Star Wars for me; and this is coming from the guy who read most of the EU novels (BoY-10 to BoY+24 timeline), TotJ + DE comics, and played Jedi Knight and X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter series.
Then an even worse aspect came along: superhero movies. What was formally geek culture was put on the big screen, loaded with beautiful Hollywood actors and CGI, and now your favorite action scenes (complete with fights, chases, explosions, and repeat) could be seen live-action. Throw in some obligatory romance (for the female 16-49 demographic) and narm/slapstick humor (for the kid appeal), and you have the typical superhero movie. And worst of all, it worked -- Avengers is a billion-dollar box-office hit.
So cue the Hollywood formula: Avengers worked, so let's keep making every single known IP into the Avengers, even if it's completely unrelated. The last Star Trek movie (which I've only "seen" via SciFiDebris review) was basically Avengers in space, because that's exactly what the studio wanted and demanded, and Star Wars is no exception. The general public want a "feel good movie" where they can watch a CG light and sound show for 2 hours -- especially if there's a nostalgia element to it (but the flood of remakes are a different beast altogether) -- and that's what sells.
Combine all those aspects, and you have a pure formula for a pure product. That's my reasoning of the "it's popular, now it sucks" mentality: art is made via a creator's vision and gains meaning via a reader's understanding/interpretation, but when a creative process follows a formula to gain mass demographic appeal or cash grab, it becomes a mass-marked product, along with the blandness and staleness that follows.
TableWrens Hahaha I love how you’re trying to defend Disney but by acting like a complete jackass you just make their shitty policies look even worse.
Gallifreyan Buccaneer >None of the one dimensional black and white morality you see in the original trilogy
Pfft. I really hope you’re baiting here.
Alex Greaney Empire vs. Rebels. Clear good guy vs. bad guy, underdog nobody in rags rising to topple the emperor. It’s very simplistic, and not particularly challenging for the mind to grasp. Granted, that’s not a bad thing, it doesn’t necessarily need to be, but the prequels did have a more complex plot line where good and evil weren’t so easily delineated. There were heroes and villains on both sides, which is a bit more realistic, and it had subtle yet nuanced political commentary warning us of centralizing too much power in any one authority figure. Plus, you had this really intricate plot of how Palpatine created Anakin with his Master, all the way up to killing Padme to sustain Anakin long enough for him to transform into Vader. He’s a political mastermind and an expert swordsman and a master of the Force. And he’s so satisfying to watch.
Anakin too, in spite of the forced romance, has a pretty deep character. From his point of view, it really looks like the Jedi are no better than the Sith, and that’s partly because in some ways they had become too corrupt and partly because Palpatine was only selectively showing him the negative aspects of the old order and ignoring the negatives of his own side and the positives of the Jedi.
There’s just a lot more to dissect and analyze with the prequels than with the originals.
Beautifully edited. This was a joy to watch.
I still cringe when the Crow goes down....poor ship.
Good old 'Katarn Loophole' arm the injured bad guy who you want to kill knowing he can't resist the temptation nd when you do kill him..it was self defense.
Atlas721 have yo played swtor before
Lol It’s clever but it works.
Poor Moldy Crow. The Raven's Claw could never compare.
Still better movie then sequel trilogy
It's corny acting, but really, really charming. Early LucasArts 3D games are a lost treasure, and this is my favorite. Kyle is amazing
Dark Forces > *#ENTIRE* Disney's™ Star Wars _Sequel Trilogy_
This game was perfect
And still way better than SjW Disney version.
May be some day we will have this game remastered ) Using engine idTech 3 (same as "Jedi Outcast" has) would be just fine!
Thats the better Sequel of the original trilogy
The timeline of this fan made favorite movie takes place one year after episode VI before the time of the mandalorian. This is canon to me in Star Wars.
You are close. First off it's the cutscenes of an actual game that is canon in the Legends timeline, but yeah it takes place in 5 ABY, one year after RotJ. Mandalorian takes place in 9 ABY, 4 years after this but in the Canon timeline.
Great character, great story. Sound Make a great movie. We'll get neither from Disney based on 2 single facts. He's male and white.........
THIS SHOULD'VE BEEN the sequel trilogy. Not what Disney is throwing down the toilet themselves.
I cheered when the Moldy Crow showed up.
"Somehow I don't see content or an old man"
"Yeah, that's the joke, Jan.... And why do you sound like Jennifer Tilly? "
Best star wars game ever.
Jedi Outcast was better imo.
Jedi Outcast was superior.
But I enjoyed this one as well because you had to use your head a bit to find secret areas and select the force powers you needed
Hey disney look it's the real star wars episode 7....
The real Episode 7
They could’ve (should’ve) just turned this into the sequels.
It`s still canon to me Damn It!
Not sure if you know what the word "canon" means...
It's interesting to see the things the Diz ST has in common with this. Both of them feature a map as an all-important MacGuffin.
Wow, I didn´t know Lady Gaga has a blue lightsaber
@@someonebutanyone6078 r/woooooosh
Lightdildo*
Just a bad romance ofna story
Still better than the sequel trilogy
Way better than the sequels could ever do
Seeing this is why I wasn't surprised when Maul turned out to still be alive.
This game was worth my time and childhood memories
10:15 not a game from 1997 having one of the best transitions of all time
As far as I'm concerned this and it's related works has always been canon post ROTJ. Disney's stuff to this day doesn't even feel like star wars.
Should have included some gameplay footage to connect some of the disjointed video clips.
“Jan! What a pleasant surprise.”
Man, they totally re-did Jedi Knight Dark Forces II with Rebels (Katarn = Jarrus, Grand Inq = Jerec)
it feels so weird seeing dark jedi with any color light saber
6 dark jedi different color and inquisitor jerec only has red lightsaber.
It looks outdated and naïve, but it's still much better than the sequels and Acolyte. True Star Wars.
Still better than Episode 7.
That was Empire Strikes Back Good. That Made Rouge One look Like a divergent Reject...Reylo and Stormpilot do Not Belong nor Shine Here.
I wonder why they had to ruin the new sequels instead of getting ideas from jedi knight and academy...
Sooooooo much better and superior than The Acolyte
Now I know where Rupert Friend got his inspiration for the Grand Inquisitor
First Kyle unwittingly lets the Valley of the Jedi be known to Jerec. Then he unwittingly leads Desann into the Valley of the Jedi. Then one of his apprentices, Rosh, gets captured in Byss, and his other apprentice Jaden nearly falls to the Dark Side. This guy has the shittiest luck in the SW universe.
Part of me wonders if it was shitty luck, or him just making excuses to continue being a badass...
Kyle to Luke probably "Yeah, you might've gotten your father to return to the light, but let's face it, you wouldn't last five minutes fighting me in a 1v1...
On second thought, you keep doing your Jedi bullshit in fucking bathrobes, I'm gonna go back to being a one man army against anything the remnant can throw at me"
@@3dpyromaniac560 Luke would crush Kyle in a 1v1. Kyle had problems defeating some Dark Jedi Inquisitor, Luke was holding back against Vader and in Dark Empire, even defeated a younger, rejuvenated Emperor.
Oh what we could do with a remake of this whole series........
Shit on it. It doesn't need to happen. Leave it alone.
A remake will most likely be awful
Thank you so much dark forces I & II are my favorite pc games from the 90's i remenber been fall in love with the beautiful asian girl of the game the actress angela harry ❤ really a game to be remenbered great gameplay and so many hours of ecxitment playing kyle katarn in sw universe.
And this is only the light side version, if player moves to the dark one, the things changes not much but cutscenes do.
In fairness you lose out on several of the cutscenes in the Dark Side path, like there's simply no Dark alternative to them. Jan gets executed and we see Kyle manage to not crash the Moldy Crow, and then we don't really get anything else until the Emperor Katarn ending in place of the Kyle frees the spirits one on the light path.
jaja you know i love this acter that does kyle. even the woman too!;) there both good!;) they bring out the carrecters!;)
man i remember when this was high tech gaming. back then this intro was insane hehehe, still awesome to this day. kyle katarn needs to come back into canon
He IS canon. Fuck Disney.
@@Stoigniew666 Amen to that!
I remember seeing the previews of this in some gaming magazine back in the day and seeing the WIP shot of 8t88's shuttle sitting on the landing pad and the sad confirmation that Boba Fett would not be appearing in the game despite rumors to the contrary.
Normal stories about Light forces
Ah Star Wars Legends the good old days
22:05 - 22:23
One of the most badass sequence I've seen in SW
never noticed how hot kyle was
20:13 "Tired of your shit Katarn..."
22:02 really yun, you show up behind inquisitor jerec.
the guy was such a treat in free enterprise
really recommend
Good memories! Better than the Disney garbage!
Brilliant game who had the hardback books dark forces?
The real hera syndulla, googles and all
Fun fact, Hera wears Jan's outfit from the later games and is voiced by Jan's Jedi Outcast voice actress. She's 100% inspired by Jan
I thought about it too. 👍🏻
I’d say Disney should do an adaptation of this but there’s no way they will since they want Luke’s Jedi order to fail
I would never let Disney put their filthy hands on Katarns legacy. I'd rather an independent filmaker {who doesnt give a shit about money and has the right mindset} to do the movie. It isn't happening, so i'm happy with this. it could be a LOT worse.
I wish to see him and Mara Jade in anything (not) related to Disney.
The sequel to this game is right up your alley then. Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith, a standalone expansion pack (from back when that was what it was called) to this game that picks up a few years later. You start off as Kyle with Mara Jade as your apprentice before Kyle leaves on a secret mission a few levels in and the main character role swaps to Mara for the rest of the game. Sadly no FMV cutscenes like this game, it was all done in-game, but there you have it. A non-Disney Star Wars entry starring both Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade together.
@@VegetaLF7 It'll check it out. By the way, she's definitely going to appear in my novel.
Kyle Katarn would have made it off the Rogue One planet in time you know it and I know it
It makes since why they didn't have Kyle in rogue one, they wanted a full length movie, if it was Kyle it would be 15 minutes at most, even then most of it would be him just dominating the stormtroopers because he is Kyle mother fucking Katarn
Love Kyle katarn, best EU character
Ok please don't judge me I'm just getting into Kyle's story. But all the cuts are just game footage from the game right? If not I'm sorry I don't know. Like the fist clip of him running to get his father disc to where he's on the ship in the med bay was just the cutsceans between game play correct? Please do correct me if I'm wrong
Correct, these are the beginning and ending cutscenes of the various levels in the games. The missing bits are the levels themselves. For example, there's an entire level of Kyle chasing 8t88 down between the two of them talking in the bar booth and Kyle blasting the arm off. Essentially the cutscenes are the "I'm at the place and need to go to the next place/do the thing" part of the story, with the gameplay covering the actual doing of the thing or going to the place before the next cutscene kicks in with "now that I'm at the place/done the thing I can continue with mission"
@@VegetaLF7 ok. Thank you for explaining it to me. It helps me alot actually. I appreciate it 😁
Yun was the MVP.
Kyle katarn movie or Sequel Triology would of been worth the budget?
Jedi Knight was the game that made me obsessed with games and, given that I didn’t have the movies on home video, it was my primary Star Wars content for years. I replay it annually and love it in the way that you can only love a thing you spent every single day with after school when you were 7.
That said all the people in these comments talking about how brilliant and high quality this story is and how it’s better than the Disney movies are hilariously sad and a perfect example of why people fucking hate Star Wars fans. Never change guys. 😂
Have you been shadowing me your whole life? You literally described my childhood as well
Vigilante9033 this is better than Disney Star Wars
Jerec how i like this character:)
I hope Disney one day recognizes what fans really want instead of virtue signaling
Could anyone tell me if the Music on 10:17 is also written by John Williams? I recognized that piece in something else. A spoken Word Radio Play. And I can’t find anything about it. Maybe it’s even License free?
It's a reworked version of The City in the Clouds, the theme that plays as part of the Millennium Falcon's approach to Cloud City