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For the first time, I started dating a white guy and I tell you the way my black female "friends" have lost their minds! They would rather see me remain single and unhappy instead of seeing me happy and being treated with actual respect. I don't know why so many black women continue to fight and be miserable over men who care less about them just leaves me puzzled. I don't even look at race I am focused on companionship and that's all we should look and whoever wants to criticize, just ignore them. It is so hard out there I simply could care less about these miserable complainers
As a white male married to a black woman for 24 years, I still wake up every morning still in love like the day we first met. Unfortunately, I could not see my self dating in this day and age. The hatred and ignorance has gotten ridiculous. My wife asked if anything happened to her, would I marry again...... probably not. I can't be with someone who has been tainted by today's lies, fear and hate mongering. I use to not care about who I dated in the 80s and 90s, but today's mindset has me be little taken back when asking a black woman out. Sad, it shouldn't be this way. But, I hope I never have to deal with that and my wife out lives me.
I'm 33 years old and I agree. Dating today is crazy hard. People just don't trust anymore. Besides all these crazy politics and just plain ugliness of the world are pulling people apart.
Sooo, it took a Black man married to a Black woman to get through to some of these women? Are you kidding me? Y'all put in so much work to make bw see logic. Proves that so many bw are black male identified. Smh. Well, for what it's worth, I'll always appreciate the sacrifices you made, so that bw can level up. So I understand when KsC went underground and you went away for a bit. We're exhausting, as bw. 😂
Cherryblos9 well, that’s the power of writing a book: Ralph Richard Bank’s book is there on the bookshelf for when brand new young BW start to connect the dots and wake up. If ForHarriet decides to go IR, then she’ll “discover” CK’s book as well.
oekmama I'm 21, and I've been listening to CK and KsC for about 2 years or more (been hipped to game since 16). I didn't need a book by a man to tell me how screwed up the black dating dynamic was (the book has been out here for almost a decade too). Instead, I listened to older, wiser women with experiences that they endured, which were backed up by non arguable statistics. Their videos were/are kinda like an epic. I understand your point, but at the same time it could be used as an excuse to not give credit to CK and KsC's opinions that went against the grain at the time ( not worshipping and coddling bm at all costs/ not making excuses for them in dating and just everyday life/suggesting bw open their dating pool to other races). There were a ton of young bw who were attacking- downright helping bm demolish their platforms. Some of them are now sounding just like them, and tbh, it disgusts me. Glad young bw are waking up, but I do not like those that have wronged these ladies, something's not quite right with those women.
Awesome session talk! I had this conversation with a good friend and I am already dating outside my race!! Keep talking inspiration and help ladies see what's going on! Damn this! I deserve to be happy! Love you Christelin and KsC!😄😄
Nope, I don't care what any of those reformed birds want to talk about. YOU, KSC, Simone, and few others BEEN talking about opening up their options, YEARS in advance. They were actively attempting to trick BW into holding out for a KANg, when they could have been getting a good man who protects and provide,in their mid to late 20's. I MARRIED well at 26 and am pregnant NOW with my soon to be first child at 31- hubby is Chinese and Ivy educated, I only went to a trade school. Youth is a weapon, but it dont last forever, don't let them steal any advantages you can get.
If white men didn't promote white supremacy trust and believe black men would by elevating white women. That's why I don't really believe white men created white supremacy. I believe it started when moors when to Europe and built their little empire.
I grew up in the 70's . I am 52 y.o. Growing up in the Deep South. I wish I had strong black women like you ladies to learn from and talk too. But luckily I had incredible women and men in my family. In seventh grade, I decided not to date because I was attracted to white boys. I didn't date until I was almost 20 y/o. I have been blessed. I had a white husband , now widowed. Didn't date for many years after he passed away. I found your book Swirling shortly after it was written. I have it in paperback , on kindle . I would love to have it on audio books as well. I give it as gifts. I recently started dating a wonderful white male. That had not dated Black women before, I gave him a copy of Swirling. He grew up a Southern Cal guy and I a Southeast La girl. He read it and we are having open dialog . Thank you for the hard work you have put in. Your voice and has given , these young women a chance to be where they are. DON"T LET THESE EVEN BRING YOU DOWN ....GOD protect those who do good. You will always be blessed!!!
Im soooo glad CK made the correction around the 6:10 mark bc i get so sick of people saying that vast of majority of BM are married to BW! Uh, NO the hell they are NOT! In the black community, out of 100%....only 43% of BM marry, period. That leaves about 57% of BM left who ain't married to BW! And of that 43% that are married, a whopping 25% (a full 1/4 ) of those BM are married to white/non-black women. That leaves about 32% of bm that are married to bw which means that the vast MAJORITY of BM, close to 70% are not marrying BW! And of that 32% that are not IR married, we dont know how many BM are married to light skin mixed/Biracial Women which would make the number of BM being married to phenotypically BW even lower percentage than 32%. If we have a 73% to 77% baby out of wedlock rate in the black community then how are the vast of majority of bm married to bw? That makes no sense! And quiet as kept, that interracial 25% marriage rate for BM would be much higher if most BM were wealthy, high earners and upwardly mobile successful men with resources! Sorry "BM ONLY" sistas, some of your Kangz are only as loyal as their financial options will allow! I'M JUST SAYIN!
For the life of me I will NEVER understand the undying loyalty most dark skinned black Women have for black men. It’s truly baffling. Ladies you should really think more of yourself. You deserve to be the STANDARD of beauty in your community, like other women are in theirs. But 🤷🏾♀️
Its really odd to see so many race 1st, BM identified chicks who were vehemently & passionately against CK, KsC , Simone56 and the BW on this side, now suddenly sounding exactly like the BW who they had such a disdain for! They started out with a heavy BM fanbase and took every opportunity they could to come for the necks of the sisterhood to gain attention & support from BM because they knew that BW swirlers/Divesters were the type of women that BM seemed to be the most obsessed with and these chicks knew this so they came harder in the paint at this side, more than BM did! These women enjoyed the attention, praise and all of the *"Thank u Black Queen... get dem bed wenches"* that they got from their bm fans, until those fools turned on their asses! Now theyre all dancing to a different tune! One BW in particular who used to champion for BM the most, who hated this platform the most, who hated CK & KsC the most, who spoke against swirling/IR the most, now has an interracial platform on Facebook for BW! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!? Im telling u, u cant make this sh*t up! Nobody is saying that its wrong to change as the years go on, people do evolve, that will happen but these chicks who we're speaking of did NOT evolve, they did a quick dramatic transformation and are now pretending that these new idealogies & beliefs are strictly their own when the original BW MAVERICKS (that they looked at as enemies) took the hits & paved the way! Thats the most insulting part of all! I mean, they called the sisterhood all kinds of BM hating, White Man worshipping, Bitch, agents for the ebil abinoid, bitter baby-mama Bed Wench Nappy Slave Haired so & so's who nobody should listen to but now those same BW are using the same talking points from the same BW that they hated so much.
I think the point Vinessa is trying to make echos mine. That the very women who joined the pile on with throwing us under the bus have now lived a little and sing a different tune all the while not acknowledging their part if dragging our names and reputations--even endangering our very lives. These same women want to be the Christopher Columbuses of black women swirling and ignore the pain and abuse thrown our way before they lived their lives. You think it's okay to build your platform by stomping on somebody's neck and turn around and suddenly "discover" the very thing that person you hurt had been saying all along? Wow...
Obsession with black Colors Obsession with black Colors With all due respect, u missed the point! CK & many others know exactly what I'm talking about! No one is mad about anything and nobody is "fighting", we're having a respectful discussion. In addition to that, we werent "bitching" about BM fighting over petty stuff either! I'm not sure where that came from, and I'm not sure why youre being so emotional about this but the issue has nothing to do with who did it first! The issue is not just about swirling, its a much bigger issue! There have been MANY other topics that CK, KsC & the sisterhood covered that these other chicks are just NOW repeating! The real issue is, there were a few BLACK WOMEN who made it their life goal to doxx, Bully, slander, damage and try to tear down what CK (and KsC) has built and they did it to try and gain favor, views, kudos & attention from BM, many who wouldnt piss on these chicks if they were on fire! many of us have been a supporter/follower of CK for several years and we witnessed the treachery & the bullying that these chicks have done so theres a passion that u will see coming from us that u don't feel because u didnt witness the pile on and the cyber abuse!
Obsession with black Colors You did not see the years worth of Pile On attacks against CK, but We saw the multiple videos aimed at her, we saw the nasty blog posts, the horrible tweets, IG posts using her images, horrible lies online, attacks in the comment sections and live ustreams all dedicated to attacking CK's character & platform...all from BLACK WOMEN! You did NOT see these women saying the vile and despicable things against CK, her brand, her message, her character, her family, but we did! it was bad enough that CK was already getting attacked from THOUSANDS of BM who hated her but to have black women that she's trying to help to go against her also was too much! CK did not know these chicks from Adam and she never came for them ...they always came at her and they did it to appease their BM fanbase bc CK & her brand is a trigger topic for these guys, so these BW attacked her message & her talking points, but now some of these same chicks who hated CK's platform so much are repeating her same exact talking points and pretending as though they discovered their idealogies all on their on. These race 1st, BM identified BW called CK & KsC all kinds of Slave Haired Bed-Wenches & Washed up Bitter Baby Mamas but now these same female bullies sound just like the Slave Haired Bed-Wench & Washed up Bitter Baby Mamas that they had such a vitriol hatred for! THATS THE ISSUE! You spent years hating the messenger but now you're trying to vamp off the messenger's message that u hated so much, but we're supposed to be quiet & not say anything about it? Oh no! We're calling it out!
vinessa wess Yes Vinessa!! Thanks for being so thorough. That is exactly what's happening. We are all glad that more BW are finally getting it, of course. But it really annoys me too that people who straight up had video wars with CK & KsC about the very same ideas and strategies are now imitating their methods, making videos advising BW of the same things CK has been saying for years (that they hated her for), never once mentioning that perhaps they and their following should no longer curse CK & KsC, because it is clear that they were right, and we should be together for the betterment of BW. Unfortunately, they seem to now be preaching CK & KsC's word, but still with the guise of "but I'm not like them". I also wish these BW would stop talking about anybody "deifying white men". I haven't heard ANY of these women EVER liken white men to gods by any means. That is speaking totally to mislead your audience. And to make up something to say, "this is how I'm different from them", but I've grown to changed about some things. Anything to keep from admitting you totally agree with them now, and you were wrong for ever speaking against them. It's all very hypocritical. That's all there is to it. That's the damn truth of it, and none of their double talk can change that.
Obsession with black Colors CK doesn't have to answer your question because this conversation with you is done! I just thoroughly and completely laid out what the issue was and you STILL don't get it, and u don't care to because your goal is to fuss and fight! Youre not a supporter of this platform so You don't really want dialogue, you just want to rant because you're emotionally triggered by what was said in this video and my comment, and the reason why you're so triggered is because you're exactly the type of black women that were talking about. This is why youre soooo annoyed with CK calling this out! *This conversation that we're having with u is OVER!* I said what needed to be said and there's nothing left to say. DEUCES✌
Everything that you and Kendall St. Charles are saying has been my experience. It's to the point where I don't cast pearls before swine anymore. At 44, I share with those who want info and leave the rest behind. I applaud you 2 ladies and appreciate your platforms. 😘😘
I had a black friend whose daughter was sooo set on sticking to black men that she was seeing this Malcolm X look alike who was very honest with her about him having 2-3 other girlfriends!! Her daughter was nice looking and had a good paying IT job and had trouble for yrs finding a black man of equal yoke. The desperation and blind loyalty to black men is real, ladies!! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ I even heard a black man on a local black talk radio station call in and brag about how he straight up tells the women he dates that they are not the only women he’s dating. He was very cocky and matter-of-fact about how women outnumber men and he used this to his advantage, and how women will just have to accept this fact.
Get your vent on ladies, but that's what kids do. Rather than admit they are in agreement and respect your views, they say, "VIOLA - I JUST INVENTED THE WHEEL!!!"
I never knew the For Harriet young woman came out directly and specifically against Christelyn and her message. I always thought the content for the channel was about and for young educated black women. Never really heard her dip into matters of swirling and romantic partnering. I don’t know anything about her blog. Now that it has been brought to my attention, I do find it interesting with the about face. I cringe sometimes when I think back about some of my beliefs and ideologies back in the day. Just goes to show no matter how “woke “ and educated you are, there’s always room for personal growth. Most times that can only come with age.
I've noticed a pattern amongst black women worldwide. There is a pattern of hearing and no effort in exercising active and problem-solving listening skills. And that's a shame. Black men as a whole, are just not "THAT guy", and they haven't been for a long time, in any relationship they establish with black woman and girls, let alone their sons. Again thank you very much ladies, for the honesty. I appreciate the message, as a 19 year old darkskinned woman.
You two are truth tellers. The two of you have transformed lives. The two of you have made some women finally say-thank goodness, what I have been thinking isn't insane (raising my hand, because that is me.)
For Harriet is annoying. Although she's a beautiful creature to me ur average black man wouldn't find her archetypal blackness atractive which is why I'm so confused by her undying loyalty
If you ladies ever get a chance, watch the various interviews that Professor Ralph Richard Banks participates with various media outlets in regards to his book "Is Marriage For White People" and some of the reactions are baffling. One woman called the book "dangerous" and stated that Professor Banks is doing nothing but push negative stereotypes of black men to sell books. Another black woman described the book and the findings of Professor Banks research as "ill advised" and not sure how he came to the conclusions that he stated in his book. Kita Williams of the "T.O. Show" stated how when she was a student at the University of Kentucky, the men who looked like her were not checking for her and were dating women who DON'T look like her. She stated that her "pretty was not pretty enough" and yet she follows up with that Professor Banks findings won't be enough to convince her to give up on her black men. Really interesting to witness this.
Mean Girls, Meaner Women: Understanding Why Women Backstab, Betray, and Trash-Talk Each Other and How to Heal by Dr. Erika Holiday and Dr. Joan Rosenberg
I don't want to trash anyone's beliefs but "radical forgiveness" is a deeply naive part of Christianity. The strong can choose forgiveness, but the rest have it thrust upon us. I feel like alot of the trouble cones down to embracing forgiveness due to social pressure. If someone hurts you you're allowed to be angry.
You can forgive but you have to exercise discernment and wisdom. A lot of lukewarms will actually compromise with biblical beliefs and cover it up under “forgiveness”. I think you can have that, and still stand your ground. When I think of forgiveness sometimes I think of letting go of that hurt and strife but not completely forgetting that it ever happened
Some black women are quite disturbed themselves. I understand why you guys went underground and you stay there for your own safety and sanity and the people who were sabotaging and trying to destroy you, GOD don’t like ugly.
If majority had the economics to date the cream of the crop women from other races, we would see well over 50% date out. They don't want to date the low hanging fruit, because it's already known that's who most obtain with the financial state they're in.
You ladies are spot on about black women aligning themselves with black men. I don't know if she is having an "ah-ha" moment, but I was on The Great Liberators channel (rare black man who speaks on behalf of Black women,) Cyn G has been on his channel talking about the fukery of Black men. Shouldn't she have been on your side the whole time?
Christelyn, you asked about what the average black man would do if he really had choices. Read it in their own words. This was a comment made after an article came out about Blac Chyna, I removed the commenters name but what he said is below. "Blac Chyna's 18 Yr Old BF Dumped Her . . . For 15 Year Old CASH ME OUTSIDE Girl!!!!" "And such is the fate for most black women..... once a black man has enough money or fame to have options 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ #WhiteWivesMatter"
BW indeed have cognitive dissonance/straight up delusion when it comes to this subject. Ol' gurl talking about 'because I don't want kids, I probably feel more comfortable than most waiting on a black man." I'm like she acting like she don't get it. She know she don't fit the 'phenotype' and BM (that don't need a place to stay) aint knocking at her door like that. Do she not see the 45 and 50+ year old black women in her comment section single as a dollar bill talking about 'still waiting on my Kang'? I remember reading an article on professional BW who were complaining they can't meet no eligible black man to marry years ago. One of the women was 50...FIFTY!! It would be one thing if these women like Kimberly, had black men, who aren't looking for a place to stay, checking for them in decent numbers.... We know this is NOT the case. Then there are the BW talking about being concerned about the 'politics' of today. However, black men started marrying white women in double and triple the numbers in the 60's when blacks were getting hosed, coming up missing never to be found, colored/white only signed, fire bombed, and lynched. Today is not as politically tense as the 60's. If a BW don't want no white boy, she don't want no white boy. However black girls and women are not getting dates, let alone married across the frickin life span. And BW acting like they don't know this. Young BW holed up in the church Mon-Sun because they don't have a life. The best BW can hope for is to think she found her black kang, only become a single mother again at almost 40 like a certain UA-camr. Sigh.
THIS: “BM (that don’t need a place to stay) ain’t knocking on her door like that”. Girl you ain’t lying! I love to see other bw hip to the fact that bm are normally only around when they need something from you.
Not gonna lie I only found out about you this month. I’m 16 and I’m so glad I can find online people who SUPPORT swirling. Everyone in UA-cam seems to bash swirling :/
First of all Christelyn, you look so stunning, red suits you. I am 57, and from the UK. Both my mother and grand-mother tried to tell my father about the state of the black community, when I was younger, but he refused to listen. When they talked about interracial marriage, he refused to listen. He finally got the message, when he was in his 70s, but my mother and grandmother had already passed away. When I was in my 20s, the black community was already falling apart. The black boys and many of their female followers were out of control. I have an elderly church male friend, who I would call uncle and I remember his words. "A time will come where some black people will have to be as far away from other black people, as the West is far from the East for their own safety and for the survival of black women, they will have to marry non-black men, if they want a family". African men have been telling me, decent black women will have to marry non-black men, because it they don't they will end up dead. One of them told me that they (black men ) will want marriage when they are 50. Although there are many successful individuals, but the community is like pouring water into a sieve. When the decent black people leave, the rest will have to make a decision, either come good, or die out, one black male neighbour said, the black men are too black identified and their mindset cannot has them stuck and they cannot adapt, many will have to die out. He had the white supremacy speech and he made up his mind that it was a load of rubbish, he was partnered with a white woman and he had two children. Women who are talked against you and only now discovering Dr Banks's book are extremely dangerous women, because they have the intellect to get out, but the others who they influence, they will lead them down a garden path, into a black hole of nothingness. Keep up the good work Ladies.
The truth many of these women are being forced to accept the harsh truth and reality of what you ladies have been saying, but instead of saying you ladies were right they're going to do what they love to blame becks for doing; i.e. act dumb. Dr. Banks books has been out for 7 years and there was a lot of controversy surrounding his book. He was also on major news network such as CNN and many black radio stations were talking about it. So for her to even say it's new to her.....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨😒😒😒😒
Thank you so much for posting this because I’m new to this community and these ideas. I didn’t know anything about this kind of content until last year.
Christelyn, I haven't commented on here yet. I'm a subscriber and a big fan of your videos, and I really appreciate the fact that highly intelligent women like you, Simone56 and KSC are looking out for black women's best interest at heart. I've watched tons of your past and most current videos and the fact that people have came after your family, disrespected you and treated you like you were nothing broke my heart. I don't even know you and I know you're a very strong and courageous woman and I respect you for taking a break from youtube and coming back now stronger than ever. I know what you're doing is not easy by a long shot, but I believe that break that you took showed me as well as other people how much they need such a positive influence like yourself. I hope to join the pink pill soon. And also I admit that I am an overweight 25 year old black woman (currently 230 pounds) and thanks to your videos as well as Simone56's and your occasional collaborations with Kendall S. C. videos gave me the strength I needed to take a hard look in the mirror at my current self and start my journey to getting down to a healthy weight and healthy self-confidence level, along with a few sprinkles of putting myself first. I'm glad that there are women like you in the world that are sticking their necks out for women like me. I'll be praying for you 3 ladies safety and happiness. May God's unwavering peace and protection be upon you no matter where you go. Thank you for being you, sincerely Jamilah Freeman. :)
Kim is still unmarried and another now unmarried with a child. While marriage isn’t necessarily a badge of honor to me. It’s crazy to see how your words have come to pass
I feel like unless you're in a school/college setting, it's difficult to know if a man is open to dating interracial. Especially if you work in a female dominated field and go straight home after work. As a woman that's been reserved all of my life and almost 30 years old, I am interested in dating I'm not sure where or how to begin. Especially in a sea of low quality men. =\
Try online dating. I’ve heard coffee meets bagel is excellent for Black women to meet professional non black men for serious commitment. Try it and sign up.
Join sports like rock climbing, mountain biking, tennis etc. Volunteer. Always look nice, smile and let it be known you are looking for marriage when the topic comes up. Go to Spanish/Italian clubs and dance night meet ups.
1:14:00 that was me last year. I had to apologize to my mom for disregarding her wisdom and acknowledging that she was right about many things. I'm glad I course corrected while in my 20s. Sh*t shouldn't have to hit the fan before understanding what's going on. But unfortunately, for many black women, it'll have to get to that point and so much damage would've been done. This hangout was great.
Older black women are still pick me "lookin for my kang" types. Then there are some similar to me who know what the hell is going on and don't want to waste out time figuring this out until we are in our 40s. None of this is new to me. I've liked non-black men since I was 6...back in the 90s. 😂😂😂
Also, I was on a channel watching fat acceptance videos. And this black woman commented on one of them. She was speaking logically, and said how the woman apart of the compilation were delusional (not verbatim but close). Someone under her comment was astounded that a black woman was speaking logically and not being emotional and delusional (it got some likes too and no one argued against it). It wasn't rude or anything, but it goes to show you that people see our delusions and how irrational we act. I was not expecting that comment at all. 😕
What is the purpose of an apology when "the dog is still dead" and the damage has been done and still evident. I wish people stop asking for apology and start asking and insisting on repairing the damage caused with acknowledgment.
What they don't understand is that their "new found" understanding is still limited! Where they now "understanding" they are still WITHOUT wisdom...... They have no humility so they will never be the crone! Never! A crone can admit shortcomings and change....this is how we change and GROW by admitting our shortcomings.
I am so tankfull that i stumbled upon CK and BB in my late teens. Now i am in my early twenties and it is funny to see these grown ass late twenties and early thirties women come to terms with what yall CK and them have been saying for YEARS! Better late than never, they say but they should give credit where it is due and apologize publicly
Don't be so sure women aren't going to other channels and voicing their views that give you credit or have views similar to yours. There is a video "Is Black love Dead?" It's on a pro Black channel. You should have seen what Black women were writing. They were basically saying, "Yes, it's dead". They were giving comments similar to KsC. I and another woman voiced our views of now that IRR dating has caught on with BW, the BM wants to know if Black love is dead. Many Black women were in agreement. IDK if I'm going back to the wrong channel, but I no longer see these comments. Did they take them off? IDK. Last week was my first time to this channel. Once, I mentioned CK, KsC and Isidora on one of Cythinia's (Black Butterfly) channels, telling her viewers that the data she was giving was already given by the three of you. I also mentioned that if they ever bothered to go to one of your channels, they'd discover that the news she was giving wasn't new. It had nothing to do with swirling. I actually like Amiri and believe he and Cythina want the best for Blacks because I've "Been there, Done that". Though I tend to disagree, I understand them. My purpose for writing those comments was not to troll them, but to give three women some deserved recognition and to make sure her viewers knew that the information put out there wasn't new. Though she does her homework, Cynthia's views aren't new. Her channel is like 20th century protest all over again, and I'm tired of Blacks going around in circles. ALSO, It's not unusual for originators not to get credit. I read where a young dark skin Black girl was the first to refuse to give up her seat on an Alabama bus, but Rosa Parks got recognized for it. Black women in the Black Panther movement were behind the breakfast programs. They didn't get specific credit for that. Many Black women who were instrumental in the civil rights movement are still unknown. Whites take credit for African history and culture all the time. I'm sure there are many more examples. Life is unfair!
It’s a good thing I don’t have to work tomorrow, because I’m staying awake to REALLY watch and listen to all of Chris and Kendall’s recent videos/audio.
Y'all so funny!!! Referring to yourselves as "older women." CK looks like a 24 year old and I understand KSC does too. You two crack me up. The young woman shown at the start of this share looks waaay older than CK. I hope CK is giving younger women makeup application and skin care tips in that Pink Pill.
So many truths. KSC came with receipts! You are both entitled to your rant. It took ForHarriet a while to come upon Dr. Bank’s research, a bit of confirmation bias maybe. Well, alright, each one has to walk their own path and when you arrive at the only possible conclusions, you ignore the people already parked up there before you. Her disingenuous ‘oh I just found this’ is kinda cute for us who’ve been either following it or living it for a while now. I like the two books you have up on the panelling behind you: one is asking the question and the other providing the answer! Check 17:37 on the ForHarriet video: Ralph Richard Banks says “There are more non-black men interested in BW than there are BW.”
I think people, today, are worrying to much about skin color. Love who you love. That was one thing I liked about "Guardians of the Galaxy." Skin color didn't matter. White and pink, white and green, pink and green, skin color didn't matter and wasn't even talked about. Our society will be much better off once skin color is no longer a consideration. $
Thank you so much for being so brave and honest! Ever since I started watching your channel, I’ve observed a lot of the behaviors that some black men exhibit towards black women. I’m originally from Haiti so this behavior is not just limited to African American men. I’ve heard several black men openly complain about the perception of black women on tv in public. I have even heard one black man say that he gets treated better because he is light skinned. You won’t hear any other race be this open in public about which shades of skin are better within their race. I had a small discussion with my Boss who has Mexican heritage about it, and he said to me that he noticed that black men tend to be the only race that he has heard of specifically bash their women. He said to me that other races will say “these women” are crazy etc. But they will never drag the women in their race. This just goes to tell you that we have not been adequately protected by some of these men, which in turn leaves black women to be disrespected openly in public a lot much more than other women. You are speaking the truth and I am so grateful that I found your channel. Right now I am focusing on some self improvement and will date exclusively out of my race.
Same here. We got this ladies. We are still very young and child free women. Men are searching for us. We just have to put ourselves in the position to be found. Many men would love a beautiful 28 year old with no children. We have options. Let’s be courageous. One thing I’ve also learned is that we are at that funny age where we can also seriously date younger men. Don’t over look a mature 24 or 25 year old man. Many women are married to men a few years younger. That’s ok. We must always look nice and get out in the world. Volunteering, sports, cooking classes etc. and do not be afraid to ask a man if he’s serious about you after a few dates. If that scares him away he just saved you some time. Good luck and have fun out there.
Im a famous explorer, I sailed from Europe to the Americas and accidentally found this place! OMG! Look at all these indigenous people running around on this land! They look just like the people back in India so I'll call these people Indians! my name is Christopher Columbus and WOW I just discovered a brand new world!! LOL!!
I know this is shameful, but I just brought your book today on Kindle, along with three other books. I'm going to attempt to read one book a week, or 1 every 2 weeks depending on how busy I become. Thanks Christelyn.
That's it right there! @ around 1hr:08min mark. I hate to say it but you're right many of these folk don't want this system of white supremacy gone! I've listened to many vids on youtubes and see it in FB groups of videos about it but really nothing gets done. It's the same ole' song that's been sung for yearrrrsssss. Smh!
A relationship is not something that anyone should really pursue or I should say not at least a serious one, love is something that just occurs naturally or at least should be. The reason why music sounds so horrible nowadays is because the so called musicians are not really in love with their craft but are pursuing the path of being a entertainer instead of a musician, pursuing this type of thing usually spawns bad results with some getting into drugs or in worse cases losing their life's. But it all boils down to them pursuing something that they thought was real from a distance. I am a black man & rather the relationship be interracial or not if it's based off a pursuit it's not something that usually lasts. I'll end with this, how many songs have you heard that have came out over the last ten years that you think will last more than ten years? You see a actual musician is in love with music itself & not the entertainment business so as a real musician you have to be good enough to attract attention to you instead of trying to attract attention to you. I'm covering my ears because I just turned on the radio. Lol
I did not see the video until after listening to this hangout...in that video all I heard where both of your talking points from years ago... Then I saw the comments... Seriously you guys get too little credit for all that you do.😑 The worse part is she continued to be disingenuous when some people pointed her hypocrisy...😑 SMH it is literally a case study for how some younger black women think once they start to mature.
My ex-wife is Hispanic woman who is in a relationship with a black man .My daughter is Hispanic woman who is married to a black man , I think it ok they're happy married with beautiful grandchildren who I love dear!
53:08 Lol came back to rewatch this, when Kendall says this , Princella aka High powered podcast, popped up in my head. She does collaborate with males.
I am divorced from a black female. I was drawn to her strength, but learned she was weak. If you look at her family and nobody is married and everyone is drawing support; run away! There are good black women out there, but look for signs of an inability to love, or care for anyone, except herself.
I've appreciated watching several of your videos, but I must state that I am put off by this particular video as it appears that you are condemning this young lady for her new found discovery...when it was something that you have known about for a while. Everyone has a different walk and will reach their destination in there own time. And it has been a pet-peeve of mine for a while for others to put down another for "not knowing." There are plenty of BW, like myself, who are viewing YOUR videos, as a result of their own "awakening." and I have found most of what you say and your followers, to be very encouraging...but in the process of sharing your life, experiences and advice...let's not put down another person for sharing theirs.
That Successful foolishness was the biggest backstab. I was mad for y'all. I did make some comments in your defense under those videos when that was going down. Not surprisingly, she missed what I was saying completely. Her response was misdirected and incomplete. And like you, I could not understand the weak-minded folks who said they were fans of yours who actually wavered like "well, if she did do that to you, that's wrong and I can't support that". That was some bull.
Nikki Blue Girl, I called out Miss ‘Successful’ and she couldn’t even respond to me in a coherent manner. She was so determined to blame Christelyn for her self made woes that she sounded like a straight idiot....and people were co-signing the f-ckery! 🤦🏾♀️
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Black men married to white women have a 200% chance of divorce. Black women married to white men have a 44% LESS chance of divorce. Nuff said.
Culture Teas so true👌👌
For the first time, I started dating a white guy and I tell you the way my black female "friends" have lost their minds! They would rather see me remain single and unhappy instead of seeing me happy and being treated with actual respect. I don't know why so many black women continue to fight and be miserable over men who care less about them just leaves me puzzled. I don't even look at race I am focused on companionship and that's all we should look and whoever wants to criticize, just ignore them. It is so hard out there I simply could care less about these miserable complainers
As a white male married to a black woman for 24 years, I still wake up every morning still in love like the day we first met. Unfortunately, I could not see my self dating in this day and age. The hatred and ignorance has gotten ridiculous. My wife asked if anything happened to her, would I marry again...... probably not. I can't be with someone who has been tainted by today's lies, fear and hate mongering. I use to not care about who I dated in the 80s and 90s, but today's mindset has me be little taken back when asking a black woman out. Sad, it shouldn't be this way. But, I hope I never have to deal with that and my wife out lives me.
I'm 33 years old and I agree. Dating today is crazy hard. People just don't trust anymore. Besides all these crazy politics and just plain ugliness of the world are pulling people apart.
Sooo, it took a Black man married to a Black woman to get through to some of these women? Are you kidding me? Y'all put in so much work to make bw see logic. Proves that so many bw are black male identified. Smh. Well, for what it's worth, I'll always appreciate the sacrifices you made, so that bw can level up. So I understand when KsC went underground and you went away for a bit. We're exhausting, as bw. 😂
Cherryblos9 well, that’s the power of writing a book: Ralph Richard Bank’s book is there on the bookshelf for when brand new young BW start to connect the dots and wake up. If ForHarriet decides to go IR, then she’ll “discover” CK’s book as well.
oekmama I'm 21, and I've been listening to CK and KsC for about 2 years or more (been hipped to game since 16). I didn't need a book by a man to tell me how screwed up the black dating dynamic was (the book has been out here for almost a decade too). Instead, I listened to older, wiser women with experiences that they endured, which were backed up by non arguable statistics. Their videos were/are kinda like an epic. I understand your point, but at the same time it could be used as an excuse to not give credit to CK and KsC's opinions that went against the grain at the time ( not worshipping and coddling bm at all costs/ not making excuses for them in dating and just everyday life/suggesting bw open their dating pool to other races). There were a ton of young bw who were attacking- downright helping bm demolish their platforms. Some of them are now sounding just like them, and tbh, it disgusts me. Glad young bw are waking up, but I do not like those that have wronged these ladies, something's not quite right with those women.
Awesome session talk! I had this conversation with a good friend and I am already dating outside my race!! Keep talking inspiration and help ladies see what's going on! Damn this! I deserve to be happy! Love you Christelin and KsC!😄😄
Nope, I don't care what any of those reformed birds want to talk about. YOU, KSC, Simone, and few others BEEN talking about opening up their options, YEARS in advance. They were actively attempting to trick BW into holding out for a KANg, when they could have been getting a good man who protects and provide,in their mid to late 20's. I MARRIED well at 26 and am pregnant NOW with my soon to be first child at 31- hubby is Chinese and Ivy educated, I only went to a trade school. Youth is a weapon, but it dont last forever, don't let them steal any advantages you can get.
5 years later and this video still hits!
If white men didn't promote white supremacy trust and believe black men would by elevating white women. That's why I don't really believe white men created white supremacy. I believe it started when moors when to Europe and built their little empire.
I grew up in the 70's . I am 52 y.o. Growing up in the Deep South. I wish I had strong black women like you ladies to learn from and talk too. But luckily I had incredible women and men in my family. In seventh grade, I decided not to date because I was attracted to white boys. I didn't date until I was almost 20 y/o. I have been blessed. I had a white husband , now widowed. Didn't date for many years after he passed away. I found your book Swirling shortly after it was written. I have it in paperback , on kindle . I would love to have it on audio books as well. I give it as gifts. I recently started dating a wonderful white male. That had not dated Black women before, I gave him a copy of Swirling. He grew up a Southern Cal guy and I a Southeast La girl. He read it and we are having open dialog . Thank you for the hard work you have put in. Your voice and has given , these young women a chance to be where they are. DON"T LET THESE EVEN BRING YOU DOWN ....GOD protect those who do good. You will always be blessed!!!
I said on their thread why it takes a black man to say this and now black women actually want to listen now
Im soooo glad CK made the correction around the 6:10 mark bc i get so sick of people saying that vast of majority of BM are married to BW! Uh, NO the hell they are NOT! In the black community, out of 100%....only 43% of BM marry, period.
That leaves about 57% of BM left who ain't married to BW! And of that 43% that are married, a whopping 25% (a full 1/4 ) of those BM are married to white/non-black women. That leaves about 32% of bm that are married to bw which means that the vast MAJORITY of BM, close to 70% are not marrying BW! And of that 32% that are not IR married, we dont know how many BM are married to light skin mixed/Biracial Women which would make the number of BM being married to phenotypically BW even lower percentage than 32%.
If we have a 73% to 77% baby out of wedlock rate in the black community then how are the
vast of majority of bm married to bw? That makes no sense! And quiet as kept, that interracial 25% marriage rate for BM would be much higher if most BM were wealthy, high earners and upwardly mobile successful men with resources! Sorry "BM ONLY" sistas, some of your Kangz are only as loyal as their financial options will allow! I'M JUST SAYIN!
vinessa wess 💯💯💯💯
The irony is that these same handmaidens will be saying that black women don't acknowledge them after their "discovery", 5 to 10 years from now😒.
They need to be exposed so people will see they are fake or guys will think that is real swirling when its not. They are fake af.
Saundra Lee , What does handmaindens mean ? I feel like a idiot asking but a stupid ? is a ? not asked thank you
For the life of me I will NEVER understand the undying loyalty most dark skinned black Women have for black men. It’s truly baffling. Ladies you should really think more of yourself. You deserve to be the STANDARD of beauty in your community, like other women are in theirs. But 🤷🏾♀️
Its really odd to see so many race 1st, BM identified chicks who were vehemently & passionately against CK, KsC , Simone56 and the BW on this side, now suddenly sounding exactly like the BW who they had such a disdain for! They started out with a heavy BM fanbase and took every opportunity they could to come for the necks of the sisterhood to gain attention & support from BM because they knew that BW swirlers/Divesters were the type of women that BM seemed to be the most obsessed with and these chicks knew this so they came harder in the paint at this side, more than BM did! These women enjoyed the attention, praise and all of the *"Thank u Black Queen... get dem bed wenches"* that they got from their bm fans, until those fools turned on their asses! Now theyre all dancing to a different tune!
One BW in particular who used to champion for BM the most, who hated this platform the most, who hated CK & KsC the most, who spoke against swirling/IR the most, now has an interracial platform on Facebook for BW! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!? Im telling u, u cant make this sh*t up!
Nobody is saying that its wrong to change as the years go on, people do evolve, that will happen but these chicks who we're speaking of did NOT evolve, they did a quick dramatic transformation and are now pretending that these new idealogies & beliefs are strictly their own when the original BW MAVERICKS (that they looked at as enemies) took the hits & paved the way!
Thats the most insulting part of all! I mean, they called the sisterhood all kinds of BM hating, White Man worshipping, Bitch, agents for the ebil abinoid, bitter baby-mama Bed Wench Nappy Slave Haired so & so's who nobody should listen to but now those same BW are using the same talking points from the same BW that they hated so much.
I think the point Vinessa is trying to make echos mine. That the very women who joined the pile on with throwing us under the bus have now lived a little and sing a different tune all the while not acknowledging their part if dragging our names and reputations--even endangering our very lives. These same women want to be the Christopher Columbuses of black women swirling and ignore the pain and abuse thrown our way before they lived their lives. You think it's okay to build your platform by stomping on somebody's neck and turn around and suddenly "discover" the very thing that person you hurt had been saying all along? Wow...
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Obsession with black Colors
With all due respect, u missed the point!
CK & many others know exactly what I'm talking about!
No one is mad about anything and nobody is "fighting", we're having a respectful discussion. In addition to that, we werent "bitching" about BM fighting over petty stuff either! I'm not sure where that came from, and I'm not sure why youre being so emotional about this but the issue has nothing to do with who did it first!
The issue is not just about swirling, its a much bigger issue! There have been MANY other topics that CK, KsC & the sisterhood covered that these other chicks are just NOW repeating! The real issue is, there were a few BLACK WOMEN who made it their life goal to doxx, Bully, slander, damage and try to tear down what CK (and KsC) has built and they did it to try and gain favor, views, kudos & attention from BM, many who wouldnt piss on these chicks if they were on fire!
many of us have been a supporter/follower of CK for several years and we witnessed the treachery & the bullying that these chicks have done so theres a passion that u will see coming from us that u don't feel because u didnt witness the pile on and the cyber abuse!
Obsession with black Colors
You did not see the years worth of Pile On attacks against CK, but We saw the multiple videos aimed at her, we saw the nasty blog posts, the horrible tweets, IG posts using her images, horrible lies online, attacks in the comment sections and live ustreams all dedicated to attacking CK's character & platform...all from BLACK WOMEN! You did NOT see these women saying the vile and despicable things against CK, her brand, her message, her character, her family, but we did!
it was bad enough that CK was already getting attacked from THOUSANDS of BM who hated her but to have black women that she's trying to help to go against her also was too much!
CK did not know these chicks from Adam and she never came for them ...they always came at her and they did it to appease their BM fanbase bc CK & her brand is a trigger topic for these guys, so these BW attacked her message & her talking points, but now some of these same chicks who hated CK's platform so much are repeating her same exact talking points and pretending as though they discovered their idealogies all on their on. These race 1st, BM identified BW called CK & KsC all kinds of Slave Haired Bed-Wenches & Washed up Bitter Baby Mamas but now these same female bullies sound just like the Slave Haired Bed-Wench & Washed up Bitter Baby Mamas that they had such a vitriol hatred for! THATS THE ISSUE!
You spent years hating the messenger but now you're trying to vamp off the messenger's message that u hated so much, but we're supposed to be quiet & not say anything about it? Oh no! We're calling it out!
vinessa wess Yes Vinessa!! Thanks for being so thorough. That is exactly what's happening. We are all glad that more BW are finally getting it, of course. But it really annoys me too that people who straight up had video wars with CK & KsC about the very same ideas and strategies are now imitating their methods, making videos advising BW of the same things CK has been saying for years (that they hated her for), never once mentioning that perhaps they and their following should no longer curse CK & KsC, because it is clear that they were right, and we should be together for the betterment of BW. Unfortunately, they seem to now be preaching CK & KsC's word, but still with the guise of "but I'm not like them". I also wish these BW would stop talking about anybody "deifying white men". I haven't heard ANY of these women EVER liken white men to gods by any means. That is speaking totally to mislead your audience. And to make up something to say, "this is how I'm different from them", but I've grown to changed about some things. Anything to keep from admitting you totally agree with them now, and you were wrong for ever speaking against them. It's all very hypocritical. That's all there is to it. That's the damn truth of it, and none of their double talk can change that.
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CK doesn't have to answer your question because this conversation with you is done! I just thoroughly and completely laid out what the issue was and you STILL don't get it, and u don't care to because your goal is to fuss and fight!
Youre not a supporter of this platform so You don't really want dialogue, you just want to rant because you're emotionally triggered by what was said in this video and my comment, and the reason why you're so triggered is because you're exactly the type of black women that were talking about. This is why youre soooo annoyed with CK calling this out!
*This conversation that we're having with u is OVER!*
I said what needed to be said and there's nothing left to say.
DEUCES✌
Everything that you and Kendall St. Charles are saying has been my experience. It's to the point where I don't cast pearls before swine anymore. At 44, I share with those who want info and leave the rest behind. I applaud you 2 ladies and appreciate your platforms. 😘😘
I can't find Kendall on YT. Do you have the link to her page?
I had a black friend whose daughter was sooo set on sticking to black men that she was seeing this Malcolm X look alike who was very honest with her about him having 2-3 other girlfriends!!
Her daughter was nice looking and had a good paying IT job and had trouble for yrs finding a black man of equal yoke. The desperation and blind loyalty to black men is real, ladies!! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
I even heard a black man on a local black talk radio station call in and brag about how he straight up tells the women he dates that they are not the only women he’s dating. He was very cocky and matter-of-fact about how women outnumber men and he used this to his advantage, and how women will just have to accept this fact.
Wow. Has she found better?
Get your vent on ladies, but that's what kids do. Rather than admit they are in agreement and respect your views, they say, "VIOLA - I JUST INVENTED THE WHEEL!!!"
49jubilee I just imagined it was said to Viola Davis, so that we could get the privilege of her epic eye roll meme, lol!
Renee Henderson Truth!
KsC take on Black women and courage gave me goosebumps! You ladies are truly pioneers ❤️
I never knew the For Harriet young woman came out directly and specifically against Christelyn and her message. I always thought the content for the channel was about and for young educated black women. Never really heard her dip into matters of swirling and romantic partnering. I don’t know anything about her blog. Now that it has been brought to my attention, I do find it interesting with the about face. I cringe sometimes when I think back about some of my beliefs and ideologies back in the day. Just goes to show no matter how “woke “ and educated you are, there’s always room for personal growth. Most times that can only come with age.
I've noticed a pattern amongst black women worldwide. There is a pattern of hearing and no effort in exercising active and problem-solving listening skills. And that's a shame. Black men as a whole, are just not "THAT guy", and they haven't been for a long time, in any relationship they establish with black woman and girls, let alone their sons.
Again thank you very much ladies, for the honesty. I appreciate the message, as a 19 year old darkskinned woman.
Myth: You can't control whom you fall in love with.
1969Vanessa G I was literally just talking about this today
You two are truth tellers. The two of you have transformed lives. The two of you have made some women finally say-thank goodness, what I have been thinking isn't insane (raising my hand, because that is me.)
For Harriet is annoying. Although she's a beautiful creature to me ur average black man wouldn't find her archetypal blackness atractive which is why I'm so confused by her undying loyalty
If you ladies ever get a chance, watch the various interviews that Professor Ralph Richard Banks participates with various media outlets in regards to his book "Is Marriage For White People" and some of the reactions are baffling. One woman called the book "dangerous" and stated that Professor Banks is doing nothing but push negative stereotypes of black men to sell books. Another black woman described the book and the findings of Professor Banks research as "ill advised" and not sure how he came to the conclusions that he stated in his book. Kita Williams of the "T.O. Show" stated how when she was a student at the University of Kentucky, the men who looked like her were not checking for her and were dating women who DON'T look like her. She stated that her "pretty was not pretty enough" and yet she follows up with that Professor Banks findings won't be enough to convince her to give up on her black men. Really interesting to witness this.
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I don't want to trash anyone's beliefs but "radical forgiveness" is a deeply naive part of Christianity. The strong can choose forgiveness, but the rest have it thrust upon us. I feel like alot of the trouble cones down to embracing forgiveness due to social pressure. If someone hurts you you're allowed to be angry.
You can forgive but you have to exercise discernment and wisdom. A lot of lukewarms will actually compromise with biblical beliefs and cover it up under “forgiveness”. I think you can have that, and still stand your ground. When I think of forgiveness sometimes I think of letting go of that hurt and strife but not completely forgetting that it ever happened
I agree
Some black women are quite disturbed themselves. I understand why you guys went underground and you stay there for your own safety and sanity and the people who were sabotaging and trying to destroy you, GOD don’t like ugly.
If majority had the economics to date the cream of the crop women from other races, we would see well over 50% date out. They don't want to date the low hanging fruit, because it's already known that's who most obtain with the financial state they're in.
CALL. THEM. OUT.
Always a treat when you team up with Kendall!
That Vegan on Shay Mountain Yep!!! Call them asses out!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I admit I'm just now waking up.
Sorry ladies.
You ladies are spot on about black women aligning themselves with black men. I don't know if she is having an "ah-ha" moment, but I was on The Great Liberators channel (rare black man who speaks on behalf of Black women,) Cyn G has been on his channel talking about the fukery of Black men. Shouldn't she have been on your side the whole time?
Christelyn, you asked about what the average black man would do if he really had choices. Read it in their own words. This was a comment made after an article came out about Blac Chyna, I removed the commenters name but what he said is below.
"Blac Chyna's 18 Yr Old BF Dumped Her . . . For 15 Year Old CASH ME OUTSIDE Girl!!!!"
"And such is the fate for most black women..... once a black man has enough money or fame to have options 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ #WhiteWivesMatter"
😂😂😂😂😂
"when yo' Boaz ain't lookin' for yo' azz"! LMAO! Brilliant, KsC!
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BW indeed have cognitive dissonance/straight up delusion when it comes to this subject. Ol' gurl talking about 'because I don't want kids, I probably feel more comfortable than most waiting on a black man." I'm like she acting like she don't get it. She know she don't fit the 'phenotype' and BM (that don't need a place to stay) aint knocking at her door like that.
Do she not see the 45 and 50+ year old black women in her comment section single as a dollar bill talking about 'still waiting on my Kang'? I remember reading an article on professional BW who were complaining they can't meet no eligible black man to marry years ago. One of the women was 50...FIFTY!!
It would be one thing if these women like Kimberly, had black men, who aren't looking for a place to stay, checking for them in decent numbers.... We know this is NOT the case.
Then there are the BW talking about being concerned about the 'politics' of today. However, black men started marrying white women in double and triple the numbers in the 60's when blacks were getting hosed, coming up missing never to be found, colored/white only signed, fire bombed, and lynched. Today is not as politically tense as the 60's. If a BW don't want no white boy, she don't want no white boy. However black girls and women are not getting dates, let alone married across the frickin life span. And BW acting like they don't know this. Young BW holed up in the church Mon-Sun because they don't have a life.
The best BW can hope for is to think she found her black kang, only become a single mother again at almost 40 like a certain UA-camr. Sigh.
THIS: “BM (that don’t need a place to stay) ain’t knocking on her door like that”. Girl you ain’t lying! I love to see other bw hip to the fact that bm are normally only around when they need something from you.
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I see the chicken have come home to roost! 💅🏾
Not gonna lie I only found out about you this month. I’m 16 and I’m so glad I can find online people who SUPPORT swirling. Everyone in UA-cam seems to bash swirling :/
First of all Christelyn, you look so stunning, red suits you. I am 57, and from the UK. Both my mother and grand-mother tried to tell my father about the state of the black community, when I was younger, but he refused to listen. When they talked about interracial marriage, he refused to listen. He finally got the message, when he was in his 70s, but my mother and grandmother had already passed away. When I was in my 20s, the black community was already falling apart. The black boys and many of their female followers were out of control. I have an elderly church male friend, who I would call uncle and I remember his words. "A time will come where some black people will have to be as far away from other black people, as the West is far from the East for their own safety and for the survival of black women, they will have to marry non-black men, if they want a family".
African men have been telling me, decent black women will have to marry non-black men, because it they don't they will end up dead. One of them told me that they (black men ) will want marriage when they are 50.
Although there are many successful individuals, but the community is like pouring water into a sieve. When the decent black people leave, the rest will have to make a decision, either come good, or die out, one black male neighbour said, the black men are too black identified and their mindset cannot has them stuck and they cannot adapt, many will have to die out. He had the white supremacy speech and he made up his mind that it was a load of rubbish, he was partnered with a white woman and he had two children.
Women who are talked against you and only now discovering Dr Banks's book are extremely dangerous women, because they have the intellect to get out, but the others who they influence, they will lead them down a garden path, into a black hole of nothingness. Keep up the good work Ladies.
This is so lovely, I can watch you & KSC speak for hourssss!
The truth many of these women are being forced to accept the harsh truth and reality of what you ladies have been saying, but instead of saying you ladies were right they're going to do what they love to blame becks for doing; i.e. act dumb.
Dr. Banks books has been out for 7 years and there was a lot of controversy surrounding his book. He was also on major news network such as CNN and many black radio stations were talking about it. So for her to even say it's new to her.....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨😒😒😒😒
Thank you so much for posting this because I’m new to this community and these ideas. I didn’t know anything about this kind of content until last year.
Before Christelyn Karazin, there was Evia Moore.
I used to read her blog whenever it came out.
Shes the one who told me about Chris..
@@kathleenking47😅ha. I wrote to Evia once. She was interesting.
Why is it usually Black People who against "IR" back in the 60s Black's were protesting to have IR Marriage now in 2018 there against it.
Christelyn, I haven't commented on here yet. I'm a subscriber and a big fan of your videos, and I really appreciate the fact that highly intelligent women like you, Simone56 and KSC are looking out for black women's best interest at heart. I've watched tons of your past and most current videos and the fact that people have came after your family, disrespected you and treated you like you were nothing broke my heart. I don't even know you and I know you're a very strong and courageous woman and I respect you for taking a break from youtube and coming back now stronger than ever. I know what you're doing is not easy by a long shot, but I believe that break that you took showed me as well as other people how much they need such a positive influence like yourself. I hope to join the pink pill soon. And also I admit that I am an overweight 25 year old black woman (currently 230 pounds) and thanks to your videos as well as Simone56's and your occasional collaborations with Kendall S. C. videos gave me the strength I needed to take a hard look in the mirror at my current self and start my journey to getting down to a healthy weight and healthy self-confidence level, along with a few sprinkles of putting myself first. I'm glad that there are women like you in the world that are sticking their necks out for women like me. I'll be praying for you 3 ladies safety and happiness. May God's unwavering peace and protection be upon you no matter where you go. Thank you for being you, sincerely Jamilah Freeman. :)
Kim is still unmarried and another now unmarried with a child.
While marriage isn’t necessarily a badge of honor to me.
It’s crazy to see how your words have come to pass
I feel like unless you're in a school/college setting, it's difficult to know if a man is open to dating interracial. Especially if you work in a female dominated field and go straight home after work. As a woman that's been reserved all of my life and almost 30 years old, I am interested in dating I'm not sure where or how to begin. Especially in a sea of low quality men. =\
Gabby B try meetup and local singles events
Try online dating. I’ve heard coffee meets bagel is excellent for Black women to meet professional non black men for serious commitment. Try it and sign up.
Join sports like rock climbing, mountain biking, tennis etc. Volunteer. Always look nice, smile and let it be known you are looking for marriage when the topic comes up. Go to Spanish/Italian clubs and dance night meet ups.
Book club is the BEST way to go, smart men read and look for women at those things.
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Intelligent women course correcting. Many were under the black power spell. It is hard to see them, it is slow going, but welcome sis. Welcome!
1:14:00 that was me last year. I had to apologize to my mom for disregarding her wisdom and acknowledging that she was right about many things. I'm glad I course corrected while in my 20s. Sh*t shouldn't have to hit the fan before understanding what's going on. But unfortunately, for many black women, it'll have to get to that point and so much damage would've been done. This hangout was great.
Older black women are still pick me "lookin for my kang" types. Then there are some similar to me who know what the hell is going on and don't want to waste out time figuring this out until we are in our 40s. None of this is new to me. I've liked non-black men since I was 6...back in the 90s. 😂😂😂
Also, I was on a channel watching fat acceptance videos. And this black woman commented on one of them. She was speaking logically, and said how the woman apart of the compilation were delusional (not verbatim but close). Someone under her comment was astounded that a black woman was speaking logically and not being emotional and delusional (it got some likes too and no one argued against it). It wasn't rude or anything, but it goes to show you that people see our delusions and how irrational we act. I was not expecting that comment at all. 😕
What is the purpose of an apology when "the dog is still dead" and the damage has been done and still evident. I wish people stop asking for apology and start asking and insisting on repairing the damage caused with acknowledgment.
I think black women should date white men seriously though
What they don't understand is that their "new found" understanding is still limited! Where they now "understanding" they are still WITHOUT wisdom...... They have no humility so they will never be the crone! Never! A crone can admit shortcomings and change....this is how we change and GROW by admitting our shortcomings.
Awesome chat, love when ksc comes through. You both are the originals, people need to let the grown women speak.
I’m super excited for KsC’s book study 😊
me too!
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CK,
OMG, I just saw that video yesterday, and went..
REALLY?
I am so tankfull that i stumbled upon CK and BB in my late teens. Now i am in my early twenties and it is funny to see these grown ass late twenties and early thirties women come to terms with what yall CK and them have been saying for YEARS! Better late than never, they say but they should give credit where it is due and apologize publicly
Don't be so sure women aren't going to other channels and voicing their views that give you credit or have views similar to yours. There is a video "Is Black love Dead?" It's on a pro Black channel. You should have seen what Black women were writing. They were basically saying, "Yes, it's dead". They were giving comments similar to KsC. I and another woman voiced our views of now that IRR dating has caught on with BW, the BM wants to know if Black love is dead. Many Black women were in agreement. IDK if I'm going back to the wrong channel, but I no longer see these comments. Did they take them off? IDK. Last week was my first time to this channel. Once, I mentioned CK, KsC and Isidora on one of Cythinia's (Black Butterfly) channels, telling her viewers that the data she was giving was already given by the three of you. I also mentioned that if they ever bothered to go to one of your channels, they'd discover that the news she was giving wasn't new. It had nothing to do with swirling. I actually like Amiri and believe he and Cythina want the best for Blacks because I've "Been there, Done that". Though I tend to disagree, I understand them. My purpose for writing those comments was not to troll them, but to give three women some deserved recognition and to make sure her viewers knew that the information put out there wasn't new. Though she does her homework, Cynthia's views aren't new. Her channel is like 20th century protest all over again, and I'm tired of Blacks going around in circles. ALSO, It's not unusual for originators not to get credit. I read where a young dark skin Black girl was the first to refuse to give up her seat on an Alabama bus, but Rosa Parks got recognized for it. Black women in the Black Panther movement were behind the breakfast programs. They didn't get specific credit for that. Many Black women who were instrumental in the civil rights movement are still unknown. Whites take credit for African history and culture all the time. I'm sure there are many more examples. Life is unfair!
Whites take credit for African history and culture all the time. Where is that?
It’s a good thing I don’t have to work tomorrow, because I’m staying awake to REALLY watch and listen to all of Chris and Kendall’s recent videos/audio.
Y'all so funny!!! Referring to yourselves as "older women." CK looks like a 24 year old and I understand KSC does too. You two crack me up. The young woman shown at the start of this share looks waaay older than CK. I hope CK is giving younger women makeup application and skin care tips in that Pink Pill.
So many truths. KSC came with receipts! You are both entitled to your rant. It took ForHarriet a while to come upon Dr. Bank’s research, a bit of confirmation bias maybe. Well, alright, each one has to walk their own path and when you arrive at the only possible conclusions, you ignore the people already parked up there before you. Her disingenuous ‘oh I just found this’ is kinda cute for us who’ve been either following it or living it for a while now.
I like the two books you have up on the panelling behind you: one is asking the question and the other providing the answer!
Check 17:37 on the ForHarriet video: Ralph Richard Banks says “There are more non-black men interested in BW than there are BW.”
So many memories!! I remember this. I even remember your “Not Becky” shirts 😂🤣🤣🤣
Tell her Kendall! I'm 64 and I am still learning! Talk about wisdom!
I think people, today, are worrying to much about skin color. Love who you love. That was one thing I liked about "Guardians of the Galaxy." Skin color didn't matter. White and pink, white and green, pink and green, skin color didn't matter and wasn't even talked about. Our society will be much better off once skin color is no longer a consideration.
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This conversation is amazing! I've confronted my abusers. And yes, it took great courage. Love you ladies. Grown woman shit right here.
This video gave me life!! I loved when the receipts were pulled out!! 👌🏾👌🏾
Shining Back Prince? Awh hell naw girl!!!!
Thank you so much for being so brave and honest!
Ever since I started watching your channel, I’ve observed a lot of the behaviors that some black men exhibit towards black women. I’m originally from Haiti so this behavior is not just limited to African American men.
I’ve heard several black men openly complain about the perception of black women on tv in public. I have even heard one black man say that he gets treated better because he is light skinned. You won’t hear any other race be this open in public about which shades of skin are better within their race.
I had a small discussion with my Boss who has Mexican heritage about it, and he said to me that he noticed that black men tend to be the only race that he has heard of specifically bash their women. He said to me that other races will say “these women” are crazy etc. But they will never drag the women in their race.
This just goes to tell you that we have not been adequately protected by some of these men, which in turn leaves black women to be disrespected openly in public a lot much more than other women.
You are speaking the truth and I am so grateful that I found your channel. Right now I am focusing on some self improvement and will date exclusively out of my race.
im 28.. no kids, 29 in October. I will start going outside of my state (nyc) to date.
Same here. We got this ladies. We are still very young and child free women. Men are searching for us. We just have to put ourselves in the position to be found. Many men would love a beautiful 28 year old with no children. We have options. Let’s be courageous. One thing I’ve also learned is that we are at that funny age where we can also seriously date younger men. Don’t over look a mature 24 or 25 year old man. Many women are married to men a few years younger. That’s ok. We must always look nice and get out in the world. Volunteering, sports, cooking classes etc. and do not be afraid to ask a man if he’s serious about you after a few dates. If that scares him away he just saved you some time. Good luck and have fun out there.
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@@kscript9127how’s it going?
Update?
Im a famous explorer, I sailed from Europe to the Americas and accidentally found this place!
OMG! Look at all these indigenous people running around on this land! They look just like the people back in India so I'll call these people Indians!
my name is Christopher Columbus and WOW I just discovered a brand new world!! LOL!!
I know this is shameful, but I just brought your book today on Kindle, along with three other books. I'm going to attempt to read one book a week, or 1 every 2 weeks depending on how busy I become.
Thanks Christelyn.
You look so lovely!
Can you write another book? It seems you could write several more books and not run out of material.
That's it right there! @ around 1hr:08min mark. I hate to say it but you're right many of these folk don't want this system of white supremacy gone! I've listened to many vids on youtubes and see it in FB groups of videos about it but really nothing gets done. It's the same ole' song that's been sung for yearrrrsssss. Smh!
Shining black prince. 😂😂
Choosing Civility: The Twenty-five Rules of Considerate Conduct
by P. M. Forni
Great video!
This is so good!
Christelyn laughing is everything. hahahahaha!
A relationship is not something that anyone should really pursue or I should say not at least a serious one, love is something that just occurs naturally or at least should be. The reason why music sounds so horrible nowadays is because the so called musicians are not really in love with their craft but are pursuing the path of being a entertainer instead of a musician, pursuing this type of thing usually spawns bad results with some getting into drugs or in worse cases losing their life's. But it all boils down to them pursuing something that they thought was real from a distance. I am a black man & rather the relationship be interracial or not if it's based off a pursuit it's not something that usually lasts. I'll end with this, how many songs have you heard that have came out over the last ten years that you think will last more than ten years? You see a actual musician is in love with music itself & not the entertainment business so as a real musician you have to be good enough to attract attention to you instead of trying to attract attention to you. I'm covering my ears because I just turned on the radio. Lol
I did not see the video until after listening to this hangout...in that video all I heard where both of your talking points from years ago... Then I saw the comments... Seriously you guys get too little credit for all that you do.😑
The worse part is she continued to be disingenuous when some people pointed her hypocrisy...😑
SMH it is literally a case study for how some younger black women think once they start to mature.
This is Amazing!
My ex-wife is Hispanic woman who is in a relationship with a black man .My daughter is Hispanic woman who is married to a black man , I think it ok they're happy married with beautiful grandchildren who I love dear!
53:08 Lol came back to rewatch this, when Kendall says this , Princella aka High powered podcast, popped up in my head. She does collaborate with males.
Where is her channel? Kendall?
Yup... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
You are so beautiful!
Christelyn, do forget the murder of black women.
Race is a social construct. I’ll leave it at that.
Randy Chase, I love love ❤️❤️❤️👍👍❤️👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️love love you.
Ck,the present of love is the absent of hate
I'm a Black Man I have nothing against interracial dating because I'm dating a White Girl now
wow you are a beautiful woman...
I am divorced from a black female. I was drawn to her strength, but learned she was weak. If you look at her family and nobody is married and everyone is drawing support; run away!
There are good black women out there, but look for signs of an inability to love, or care for anyone, except herself.
I've appreciated watching several of your videos, but I must state that I am put off by this particular video as it appears that you are condemning this young lady for her new found discovery...when it was something that you have known about for a while. Everyone has a different walk and will reach their destination in there own time. And it has been a pet-peeve of mine for a while for others to put down another for "not knowing." There are plenty of BW, like myself, who are viewing YOUR videos, as a result of their own "awakening." and I have found most of what you say and your followers, to be very encouraging...but in the process of sharing your life, experiences and advice...let's not put down another person for sharing theirs.
You are one beautiful woman.wish I had met you in the 70s
Wen u say black u only talking about black American not African around the world please make ur self clears
you're beautiful but I don't have time to watch the whole thing sorry
That Successful foolishness was the biggest backstab. I was mad for y'all. I did make some comments in your defense under those videos when that was going down. Not surprisingly, she missed what I was saying completely. Her response was misdirected and incomplete. And like you, I could not understand the weak-minded folks who said they were fans of yours who actually wavered like "well, if she did do that to you, that's wrong and I can't support that". That was some bull.
Nikki Blue Girl, I called out Miss ‘Successful’ and she couldn’t even respond to me in a coherent manner. She was so determined to blame Christelyn for her self made woes that she sounded like a straight idiot....and people were co-signing the f-ckery! 🤦🏾♀️