I'm still struggling with Olga. When she goes left, I can hardly manipulate her into going back behind the tarp without her immediately starting the cutscene. When she goes down (right side) I can't get the 4 heads hots down...
What 8 save points do you end up using for this run? Edit: for those wondering it was Save 1: start of Plant chapter Save 2: Fortune boss fight Save 3: Fatman boss fight Save 4: Harrier boss fight Save 5: Vamp boss fight Save 6: Start of Arsenal Gear Save 7: MG Ray boss fight Save 8: Solidus boss fight
Interesting, in this version on MGS2, they remove collected all dog tags, means complete the game million times on every difficulty, also remove complete all VR missions, witch is hard AF. But, they add to get a Big Boss rank witch is not in the HD Collection. I don't know what is worse. Big Boss rank or complete, collect all Tags VR missions 😭😂
@@jaredmartin7040 Maybe, bit you spend whole a less time to get it. To complete the VR. And collect tags you need like 10 hours only for those 2 at least
My advice? Try focusing on the sound of the Rays, and pay attention to all three. Especially when one of them gets on the platform. I remember dying a lot to them on Hard mode when trying to get the Dogtags for the Stealth Camo in the Plant Chapter, but on my recent playthrough on the Master Collection when doing so I made sure to pay close attention to what ALL three Rays were doing, and instead of going for the attack, dodged their attacks and waited for the right time to attack. That being when they are just starting theirs. It takes a lot of patience but it can be done without even taking damage from them.
@@Xxandrew01 Best strategy for me and the one which never fails is start the fight by shooting all 3 Rays on the legs so that you may then shoot their open mouths consecutively then when the one in the middle jumps into the platform to start the boss fight proper proceed to stay near it while still keeping distance so that it may shoot it's "water laser" leaving itself open to a Stinger shot before repeating the same attack pattern all over again. As soon as its health is depleted inmediatly shoot the legs and mouths of the 2 Rays circling the platform while dodging their missile attacks when necessary BEFORE either one jumps in to replace the one who left so that you may have an easier time defeating them should either make it into platform and continue the fight. As long as you keep shooting the Rays outside the "arena" while constantly keeping yourself at a distance of the one standing on the platform so that it triggers its water laser you should have the advantage by constantly depleting all active Rays's health at a cheetah's pace giving them little time to overwhelm you through their missile and machine gun attacks.
Got question. If I start new game plus but I have STEALTH/BANDANA already unlocked from dog tags from lower difficulty does it voids the Big Boss rank and I have to start clear new game or just simply not to activate any of these two items?
does time spent on the "pause screen" count towards playtime in Metal Gear Solid 2? if not that will totally make it easier for me to follow onside your guide because i won't have to memorize it before playing. it's alright if you don't know.. some say it does contribute to time, others say it does not.
Alert do not count till they call it in. This will allow for easier navigation through out the game. As you will have the chance to adjust and take action when you get spotted. But if you play on Game over if discovered. It’s over when you get spotted. There is no room for adjustment or taking action.
Is it nornal that in the guards rush on the tanker one of the guards who attack from the distance advance abd hide along side the box Snake his hidding? This pretty much ruined my run
So whats the point of the saves? If you void any of the requirements its not like you can just dashboard and reload, you'll need to start all over again. With RE4 Remake getting professional S+ requires completing the game in under 5 hours and 30 minutes, with no more then 15 saves, when you die and reload the save, it keeps all the time played (witch is bad,) but if you quit to the main menu first the time starts at when you saved, (witch is good) is there anything like that in this game?
A bit late, but you don't have to start the game all over if you mess up, just reload the latest save (e.g. if you die, select exit instead of continue). If you cause an alert or something and then restart from a save, the alert won't be counted in your final score, because it never happened in your save file
And I have an observation to share, there is the same kind of trophy in mgs1 , I played in hard, had a few continues eat few rations but yet I had the trophy ! Can it be transigeant for this trophy too ?
There's 3 mandatory alerts and I did think the 1st one was the Tanker guard rush but for some reason on the mission failed screen the first alert showed up only after the Emma sniping section
Only counts as an alert when they finish calling it in, and you hear the horn/siren going off. When you’re doing the sniper bit with Emma if the guards or cyphers spot her it also doesn’t count as an alert.
This is a speedrun guide, not simply a Big Boss trophy guide. Many of the strategies here are risky and require your effort to basically be picture perfect with this video, if you are not, you will find yourself triggering alert mode over and over, and wasting many hours in frustration. Find a more reliable guide. Appreciate the effort though.
![[PC] Metal Gear Solid 2 European Extreme in 1:21:51 Big Boss Rank](/img/n.gif)
For anybody wondering: you can pause and follow the guide since the in-game timer stops when pausing.
Life saver
So i can press the option button that show me the map and the game paused??
@@j9iy Sorry, late reply, but yes. It won't count towards the time.
Is it the same with mgs1 ?
@@omicron7510 Yes. It's the same with MGS1. You can't do it with MGS3, though.
Ironically i think i struggle with the olga fight the most
I'm still struggling with Olga. When she goes left, I can hardly manipulate her into going back behind the tarp without her immediately starting the cutscene. When she goes down (right side) I can't get the 4 heads hots down...
You’re pretty good! Thanks for the guides, MGS1 Elite walkthrough was a huge help and I’m sure this will be too.
What 8 save points do you end up using for this run?
Edit: for those wondering it was
Save 1: start of Plant chapter
Save 2: Fortune boss fight
Save 3: Fatman boss fight
Save 4: Harrier boss fight
Save 5: Vamp boss fight
Save 6: Start of Arsenal Gear
Save 7: MG Ray boss fight
Save 8: Solidus boss fight
Perfect timing. Was about to start my BB run tomorrow. Your guides are Superb!
Interesting, in this version on MGS2, they remove collected all dog tags, means complete the game million times on every difficulty, also remove complete all VR missions, witch is hard AF. But, they add to get a Big Boss rank witch is not in the HD Collection. I don't know what is worse. Big Boss rank or complete, collect all Tags VR missions 😭😂
Big Boss rank is harder
@@jaredmartin7040 Maybe, bit you spend whole a less time to get it. To complete the VR. And collect tags you need like 10 hours only for those 2 at least
The big boss rank is the only trophy I need. I won't even attempt the madness
Just do it. Make your dreams come true. JUST DO IT YES YOU CAN
@faaskee7071 Thanks Shia 😊
Great guide again. I think that the RAY fight will stop me getting this. I really struggle with it even on Normal where you only have to kill 5.
You have to think of it like a dark souls game, you have to replay it over and over again to beat it. It’s not impossible! Just takes time!
My advice? Try focusing on the sound of the Rays, and pay attention to all three. Especially when one of them gets on the platform. I remember dying a lot to them on Hard mode when trying to get the Dogtags for the Stealth Camo in the Plant Chapter, but on my recent playthrough on the Master Collection when doing so I made sure to pay close attention to what ALL three Rays were doing, and instead of going for the attack, dodged their attacks and waited for the right time to attack. That being when they are just starting theirs. It takes a lot of patience but it can be done without even taking damage from them.
@@Xxandrew01 Best strategy for me and the one which never fails is start the fight by shooting all 3 Rays on the legs so that you may then shoot their open mouths consecutively then when the one in the middle jumps into the platform to start the boss fight proper proceed to stay near it while still keeping distance so that it may shoot it's "water laser" leaving itself open to a Stinger shot before repeating the same attack pattern all over again. As soon as its health is depleted inmediatly shoot the legs and mouths of the 2 Rays circling the platform while dodging their missile attacks when necessary BEFORE either one jumps in to replace the one who left so that you may have an easier time defeating them should either make it into platform and continue the fight. As long as you keep shooting the Rays outside the "arena" while constantly keeping yourself at a distance of the one standing on the platform so that it triggers its water laser you should have the advantage by constantly depleting all active Rays's health at a cheetah's pace giving them little time to overwhelm you through their missile and machine gun attacks.
@@javiervasquez625 That's definitely a great strategy. I have to try it sometime myself.
Also try watching numerous video guides to see everyone’s strat until you see one you think you’d be able to do
Really interesting strategy, keep them coming please!
Magnífico contenido. Una pregunta si eres tan amable...¿ Se puede matar en el rango Big Boss ? Gracias y saludos desde España !!
Got question. If I start new game plus but I have STEALTH/BANDANA already unlocked from dog tags from lower difficulty does it voids the Big Boss rank and I have to start clear new game or just simply not to activate any of these two items?
It does NOT VOID the BB rank. Just don't equip the special items and be careful with it. One wrong input could void the rank
Big Boss rank is just not worth it its absolutely insane. Only 8 saves! 🐍
I just don’t think I can do this. I guess I’ll just stick to my flying squirrel rank.
Come on man. Believe in yourself.
does time spent on the "pause screen" count towards playtime in Metal Gear Solid 2? if not that will totally make it easier for me to follow onside your guide because i won't have to memorize it before playing. it's alright if you don't know.. some say it does contribute to time, others say it does not.
Yes, it pauses.
hell yes ive been waiting for this
You didn't explain why do we empty our lethal bullets before fortune?
Thanks jag, cant wait for part 2
Thank you.🙂
Wait you can’t use radar? How about stealth camo? Does it void the rank if used?
Υes :)
No special items for BB RANK
Very good guide!
Love the guides. One question though, why not turn on the game over when seen?
Alert do not count till they call it in. This will allow for easier navigation through out the game. As you will have the chance to adjust and take action when you get spotted.
But if you play on Game over if discovered. It’s over when you get spotted. There is no room for adjustment or taking action.
Does time continue to run if your paused? Or say in the ps menu? Is there anyway to stop the timer besides exiting the game?
Time doesn't run when you pause, unlike MGS3
anyone please tell me, it 700 shots limit and no caution state is part of it?
With the way hes playing it shouldn't be an issue at all.
700 shots limit is a requirement
No caution states isn't a requirement
This is great! Nice work!
Just a quick question. But does pausing the game affect the end time ? I'm definetly going to use this but i may have to pause a few times to rewind.
It does not affect the timer
Strut D had bombs in the wrong place.
I didn't choose new game I loaded up a new game plus save so I don't get why my bombs weren't in the same place.
Can't wait to see the MGS3 one. I know you'll get the Foxhound organically during a run though, beast lol
Say I got to the end of the tanker with 12:28 time, do I still have the chance to make it time wise or would I have to start over and do it again?
Is it nornal that in the guards rush on the tanker one of the guards who attack from the distance advance abd hide along side the box Snake his hidding?
This pretty much ruined my run
strut e the guard always sees me after shooting the two cameras, im quite confused 22:28
This is GOLD
So whats the point of the saves? If you void any of the requirements its not like you can just dashboard and reload, you'll need to start all over again.
With RE4 Remake getting professional S+ requires completing the game in under 5 hours and 30 minutes, with no more then 15 saves, when you die and reload the save, it keeps all the time played (witch is bad,) but if you quit to the main menu first the time starts at when you saved, (witch is good) is there anything like that in this game?
A bit late, but you don't have to start the game all over if you mess up, just reload the latest save (e.g. if you die, select exit instead of continue). If you cause an alert or something and then restart from a save, the alert won't be counted in your final score, because it never happened in your save file
And I have an observation to share, there is the same kind of trophy in mgs1 , I played in hard, had a few continues eat few rations but yet I had the trophy ! Can it be transigeant for this trophy too ?
You shouldn’t get the trophy if you have continues. So I guess it bugged out with you?
Me too, in normal mode... I just finish in 3h and i got the trophy 🤔
@@bolbie01was this for MGS1 or MGS2?
When does an alert count?
One question, against fortune we are at 1 alert no ?
The mandatory alerts are:
Tanker’s Guard Encounter.
Tengu 1 Encounter.
Tengu 2 Encounter.
So you should be at 1 alert by fortune.
There's 3 mandatory alerts and I did think the 1st one was the Tanker guard rush but for some reason on the mission failed screen the first alert showed up only after the Emma sniping section
How can we get the sealth cameo in MSG2?
You need to get 76 dogtags in the tanker. And 120 dogtags in the plant.
20:24 is this not a Alert? Or did they need to call for Alert
They need to call for Alert don't worry
Only counts as an alert when they finish calling it in, and you hear the horn/siren going off.
When you’re doing the sniper bit with Emma if the guards or cyphers spot her it also doesn’t count as an alert.
Is it ok if I press continue when I die from a boss?
No
please do mgs3 🙏🙏🙏
Can you do it on easy
No, you can't get Big Boss rank on easy. Only on extreme or european extreme
That’s not true if you play German you have already unlocked all difficulties
This is a speedrun guide, not simply a Big Boss trophy guide. Many of the strategies here are risky and require your effort to basically be picture perfect with this video, if you are not, you will find yourself triggering alert mode over and over, and wasting many hours in frustration. Find a more reliable guide. Appreciate the effort though.