The Rise and Fall (and Rise again) of WhiteCat - An osu! documentary

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  • @0x84f
    @0x84f  5 років тому +307

    Since this video is blowing up, rather than complaining about not understanding me and insulting me, use the subtitles which are always there and made by me for such occasions. Thanks :)

    • @specktrumm0
      @specktrumm0 5 років тому +2

      kk man

    • @StonkeyKong
      @StonkeyKong 5 років тому +16

      I can understand you fine, didn’t read the other comments, but very good video!

    • @rafieable
      @rafieable 5 років тому +4

      Nah thanks i'd listen to you rather than read some subs bud!

    • @Swaex
      @Swaex 5 років тому +2

      Thanks dude i didnt mean my comment in a bad way c:

    • @intrinsic9585
      @intrinsic9585 5 років тому +2

      Bruh ur fine, idk how people can’t understand you. I personally really like your voice :)

  • @aktovt
    @aktovt 5 років тому +496

    i didn't even know who this whitecat person is until last week

    • @miaownyan2621
      @miaownyan2621 5 років тому +4

      He played Gatari, until he was unbanned

    • @insomniac1889
      @insomniac1889 4 роки тому

      @@miaownyan2621 Whats gatari

    • @Windy-b9p
      @Windy-b9p 4 роки тому

      INSOMNIAC osu private server you noob

    • @Infmso
      @Infmso 4 роки тому

      @@Windy-b9p private server? In osu?

    • @Windy-b9p
      @Windy-b9p 4 роки тому

      T0mmy D yes

  • @stelles1344
    @stelles1344 5 років тому +325

    Imagine wanting to be #2 instead of #1

    • @thisperson345
      @thisperson345 5 років тому +67

      I don't think he necessarily wanted #2 but he didn't believe he could pass vaxei

    • @AGnar0k
      @AGnar0k 5 років тому +5

      Hol Horse agrees with WhiteCat

    • @-t950
      @-t950 4 роки тому +1

      But guys it did happend. he's now #1

    • @Windy-b9p
      @Windy-b9p 4 роки тому +2

      Eueyeue Meo bro you’re a little late

    • @puffonxe
      @puffonxe 4 роки тому

      @@Windy-b9p yeah lol, just a *little bit* late xd

  • @zhizhao7915
    @zhizhao7915 5 років тому +252

    why does those osu staff members seem so unprofessional

    • @syni8225
      @syni8225 5 років тому +13

      Busy on osu!lazer lol

    • @jermu8706
      @jermu8706 5 років тому +64

      Because they are unprofessional and egotistic. No more supporter tags for me.

    • @sillyjobbernowl
      @sillyjobbernowl 5 років тому +19

      It's just Peppy, he's the realest of them all. He does him and only him which can lead to the occasional human error/denial of someone lol.

    • @astrodazen
      @astrodazen 4 роки тому +4

      Bc they are.

    • @iantu2k
      @iantu2k 4 роки тому +1

      Bc they are

  • @teddanville6996
    @teddanville6996 5 років тому +400

    -Immediately after unbanned, he called out hastag number 2 in chat cuz he didn’t believe he could beat Vaxei.
    -I’m glad that lots of people love him now, he’s a very likable guy, i don’t remember me or my friends being that friendly and humble at 15.
    -I think people will never forget his climb to number 1 as he is the first osu speedrunner.

    • @Marnige
      @Marnige 5 років тому +12

      I mean, people love him because he achieve high pp scores. That's the truth.

    • @taikoto8199
      @taikoto8199 5 років тому +14

      To be fair though, Vaxei is taking a break, so he can't set many scores right now. WhiteCat of course is insane, but Vaxei imo is a better player for all types of play. WhiteCat isn't consistent enough on streams compared to him.

    • @BowieProYT
      @BowieProYT 5 років тому +15

      “First osu speedrunner”
      -GN and MillhioreF 10 fc runs + xasuma 100% run: Am I a joke to you?

    • @jordyvandenkieboom6571
      @jordyvandenkieboom6571 5 років тому +8

      there is no such thing as "osu speedrunner" rofl, the dude was a top player and got banned for 3 years and continued to play almost daily for those 3 years, no shit when he gets unbanned and he starts from 0 pp he is gonna climb insanly fast, and whitecat is an aim player, dt 1-2's, he is a huge farmer and has been spamming (retrying) overweighted maps over a thousand times on private servers, so when he got unbanned he was ready to farm hard, he is obv an insane player but the pp system is garbage and doesn't say anything about "skill", and u can't ever use the word speedrunner in osu since u'll have to get banned to even attempt a "speedrun", if a 4 digit gets banned he'll get 4 digit back in a day if he wanted to, if a top 10 gets banned he can get top 10 back in a day if he wanted to

    • @Mewtz
      @Mewtz 5 років тому +4

      @@jordyvandenkieboom6571 think of it as retrying speedruns. He's done it before, so it will likely be quicker since there was a huge gap where he practiced without doing runs.
      also do you know what a joke is lol

  • @puffonxe
    @puffonxe 4 роки тому +218

    Imagine being a 12 year old who had to put up with all this drama. He is so seriously mature and definitely a likable person.
    Edit: he was 12, not 13 years old

    • @-t950
      @-t950 4 роки тому +4

      He's now 15 lol so young

    • @hairold5680
      @hairold5680 4 роки тому

      @@-t950 yo what

    • @-t950
      @-t950 4 роки тому +1

      @@hairold5680 he is 15. 5 years older than me lol

    • @hairold5680
      @hairold5680 4 роки тому +1

      @@-t950 if you start to grind osu now, your body will develop the skills for the game and you can be as good as whitecat lol

    • @-t950
      @-t950 4 роки тому +8

      @@hairold5680 I can play the game. I don't have gaming socks. That's the problem

  • @eyesneveropen-meow-5125
    @eyesneveropen-meow-5125 5 років тому +189

    im curious why did minecraft pvp players migrate to osu

    • @ihas9lives
      @ihas9lives 5 років тому +39

      Idk i did the same thing too lol

    • @Vloggen
      @Vloggen 5 років тому +27

      It shouldnt make sense but we all did anyway

    • @KanaYua
      @KanaYua 5 років тому +2

      Dota player play OSU

    • @KanaYua
      @KanaYua 5 років тому +2

      to Train my hand speed and mentality

    • @SetsuForReal
      @SetsuForReal 5 років тому +7

      I just remember being in the zonix discord and then someone saying you play osu? And then I started playing lmao.

  • @grovehoLP
    @grovehoLP 5 років тому +67

    That´s some high quality documentary, great job sir.

  • @user-kr1nj3bu7c
    @user-kr1nj3bu7c 5 років тому +65

    Surprisingly complete and thought-out summary; I've been following this drama since 2016, yet this video included info I wasn't aware of. Well done.

  • @Spiderbat
    @Spiderbat 5 років тому +21

    This video was actually a ton of information. Thanks.

  • @ssz7
    @ssz7 5 років тому +58

    Just to clarify, for the natsukoi hanabi liveplay, he did not press alt+tab, rather, he pressed esc and then insert to exit the game.
    It's probably some bug similar to the alt tab bug, but there has been no evidence showing this bug yet.

    • @tamuwu
      @tamuwu 5 років тому

      I've seen evidence, I can't remember where I found the link to the video though. It's private.

  • @thisperson345
    @thisperson345 5 років тому +26

    So he went from being hated and seen as a hacker to being on the same pedestal as vaxei
    I'm glad though, he seems like a really nice guy and he's absolutely amazing at the game

  • @PocketNachos
    @PocketNachos 5 років тому +138

    love how you explained on how you spoke about the community outcries for posting his bail...
    while you posted his bail...
    LOLL

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +26

      I mean it already went public and WhiteCat was fine with it so why not :P

  • @dorayak8051
    @dorayak8051 5 років тому +25

    Idk why people are hating him , he's been through so much witchunting and accusation for almost 2 years trying to prove hes legit , liveplay ,stream etc. But back then it wasnt set in bancho so he is definitely hacking says the community , and now hes unbanned , almost livestreaming every single of his legendary plays , and yet people stil call him hacking , sure.
    But when they know its legit they go onto another insult like ,"i hatw you for sniping xxxx" ,
    like cmon , that kind of shitting isnt new but its the worst on whitecat case . Please stop it. yeah all the arguments like hes just a mere farmer,cant play tech ,little tournament consistency/ experience is true but all of his fame and skills are well deserved

    • @jacen884
      @jacen884 4 роки тому +1

      Those people have poop for brains

    • @Gortosan
      @Gortosan 4 роки тому

      People can't leave alone a 16 year old for having fun smh

    • @Kalv106
      @Kalv106 4 роки тому

      and now, 6 months after this comment was made, Whitecat FC'd Logical Stimulus and Yomi Yori, who would have thought

  • @xMortalBlade
    @xMortalBlade 4 роки тому +10

    happystick's tweet was pretty ignorant when reimu and cookiezi did the same thing

  • @BigbangattackLp
    @BigbangattackLp 4 роки тому +9

    dude imagine seeing 2016 whitecat vs cookiezi. That would‘ve been epic holy shit

  • @hlv152
    @hlv152 5 років тому +27

    It's really nice to see documentaries like this about restricted legit players, WhiteCat's climb to #2 (and then #1) will never be forgotten. I never heard about him except for his 2017 Monster HDDT liveplay I saw the last year (not knowing that was that whitecat blasting everything now) and it's really glad to see all the three years way he had to take to get unbanned with the best end for him and the osu! community. Great video!

  • @mars2122
    @mars2122 5 років тому +8

    its a very good feeling to know about WhiteCat because i was very confused when I saw the rankings last month

  • @TheTom-Saunders
    @TheTom-Saunders 5 років тому +27

    WhiteCat came out of nowhere for most people and for me and it's a shame
    his talent went unnoticed because of people accusing him nevertheless i'm glad he got unbanned to be able to climb the ranks to number 1

    • @SoullessNazzerin
      @SoullessNazzerin 5 років тому +4

      What he did is what I call true dedication. He played a lot, got better and got banned but still he kept playing and enjoyed the game. He put all his effort into proving himself legit and trying to get unbanned because that's what he really wanted, he wanted to be a REAL part in the community of the game he loved, he knew he deserved to be part of it and people close to him as well. He kept trying for years to get unbanned and wanted to get unbanned so badly that he even resorted to lying about hacking. Most ordinairy players would have given up after probably less than a year and especially players who actually was hacking since they most likely don't enjoy the game that much. But he held on and it paid off in the end. This is a perfect example that dedication unless it's with harmful intensions is never a bad thing. If you try hard enough and for long enough you will probably succeed. Yes technically it was skill who got him unbanned but in reality he was just the final piece. He was only able to prove that the ban was unjust and the staff was unfair to WhiteCat because of WhiteCat's dedication before. He definitely deserved to get unbanned.

    • @TheTom-Saunders
      @TheTom-Saunders 5 років тому

      @@SoullessNazzerin im sorry but i cannot read all that lol

    • @SoullessNazzerin
      @SoullessNazzerin 5 років тому

      @@TheTom-Saunders I'm bad at summarizing

    • @zaxgn
      @zaxgn 4 роки тому

      @@TheTom-Saunders then get glasses bro

  • @MokeyAraa
    @MokeyAraa 5 років тому +41

    I've been defending WhiteCat for years now because I know he's legit.

    • @Seuumi
      @Seuumi 5 років тому

      Tomoki is that frickintomoki

    • @MokeyAraa
      @MokeyAraa 5 років тому

      @@Seuumi oh my frickin god

  • @chenchen6150
    @chenchen6150 5 років тому +20

    Now all we need the rise and fall of *cough* adamqs *vomits*

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +3

      maybe

  • @intrinsic9585
    @intrinsic9585 5 років тому +28

    I swear he came out of nowhere tho. I never heard about him at all until like a week ago and now he’s number 1 like what

    • @jacen884
      @jacen884 4 роки тому +2

      That because he got banned and he became a big dick good while he was banned.

  • @thelazywanderer_jt
    @thelazywanderer_jt 5 років тому +10

    what i got out of this is that i'm glad i don't interact with the community besides friends of mine. I'd hate to have a lynch mob come after me for just enjoying the game.

    • @jiysea
      @jiysea 4 роки тому

      Well because osu is a veryyyyy hard game and some hardworkers always complain against talents

  • @FuzzyWuzzy147
    @FuzzyWuzzy147 5 років тому +1

    >be me watching this a year later
    >i wonder if he ever made #2
    >check leaderboards
    >hes #1

  • @arsharayhan8753
    @arsharayhan8753 4 роки тому +1

    Wow i don't know how he get through all these problems with a high patience! I really appreciate whitecat's journey.

  • @reflections7612
    @reflections7612 4 роки тому

    High quality video, good job

  • @ThinkLuckyThink
    @ThinkLuckyThink 4 роки тому +1

    This is a very informative video. I am a new Osu! player so I don't know alot of drama [Except Peppy on twitter].
    Ps: I can understand you just fine. Dont listen to people who are making fun of you.

  • @randomcatontheinternet2771
    @randomcatontheinternet2771 Рік тому

    3:00 in reality WhiteCat was trying to beat his inner PP nervous stroke to play like nothing at stake

  • @jacen884
    @jacen884 5 років тому +31

    Osu support actin like clowns lmao

  • @asmylia9880
    @asmylia9880 5 років тому +3

    Rise and fall of Rohulk when?

  • @choke-
    @choke- 5 років тому

    Great video man good job

  • @RakhaRamadhana
    @RakhaRamadhana 5 років тому +4

    This whole story of WhiteCat just too much of an anime to me. (In a good way) :D

  • @Janeru
    @Janeru 4 роки тому

    "The rise and fall and rise of Whitecat"
    So he just 1-2ed his career?

  • @Janeru
    @Janeru 4 роки тому

    Of course non of the osu staff members would care about his appeals because he was younger at the time. Most people would just ignore kids' appeals on bans

  • @zuick3846
    @zuick3846 5 років тому

    Vaxei is back and he now has competition.

  • @randymandy556
    @randymandy556 4 роки тому

    Great video

  • @pavelschwertner8565
    @pavelschwertner8565 5 років тому +1

    I don't understand why White Cat didn't simply create a new account

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +1

      Are you joking? Lol

    • @pavelschwertner8565
      @pavelschwertner8565 5 років тому

      @@0x84f hahahaha no iam Not. If I were him, I'd just create a new account. The skill is not ACC dependent and if his Mac address was banned then there is VPN( are expensive then just) or he builds a new PC .
      I really don't understand it

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +8

      It'd be a really easy multi account to spot and he'd always be under watch/witchhunt, and he just wanted to clear his name

    • @Tannaka420
      @Tannaka420 3 роки тому

      @@pavelschwertner8565 so you wanna say he should break the rules to get a second chance ?
      people like you are just degenerates

  • @markky3050
    @markky3050 5 років тому +1

    As much as I love osu, its been a big part of my life for the last 5 years almost, its a shame the Dev and owner of osu is a complete and utter child. He posts so much stupid shit on twitter and throws constant tantrums, if I didnt love the game as much as I did id have left in a heartbeat after seeing the way peppy "Deals" with his customer Base (the people that actually keep him afloat financially and the people who literally MADE him).

  • @adriangodoy4610
    @adriangodoy4610 5 років тому +5

    he just did 1100 ++ play

  • @sr.waffles4179
    @sr.waffles4179 3 роки тому

    and fall again

  • @actuallync6341
    @actuallync6341 4 роки тому

    that skin looks so clean when you fc something

  • @mnmn1275
    @mnmn1275 3 роки тому

    Are there old whitecat streams right After the unban ( besides the one unban stream) somewhere to find?

  • @torneycarblos9140
    @torneycarblos9140 5 років тому +1

    The people who think white cat is hack are just too salty

  • @ayamevirus232
    @ayamevirus232 3 роки тому

    The fall of White cat

  • @momothx1
    @momothx1 5 років тому +1

    Your English is becoming better!

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +1

      Thanks man, got a job which requires me to speak english 8hrs a day so that helps I guess

  • @astrodazen
    @astrodazen 4 роки тому

    Support sucks. They banned like half Colombian top players and they haven't been accepted back in years. They are unconsistant and make people sad.

  • @bananya6020
    @bananya6020 5 років тому +1

    *Company Man vibes intensify*

  • @ninja170201
    @ninja170201 5 років тому +1

    Underrated channel

  • @RAGEOSU
    @RAGEOSU Рік тому

    So basically, if you wanna be number 1 at osu, you have to be ready for the terrible community.

  • @cyruspogi4392
    @cyruspogi4392 4 роки тому

    Chill he wasn't hacking, he was just using touchscreen

  • @tongnguyen4859
    @tongnguyen4859 5 років тому +1

    video provided by Darnell

  • @nalla1782
    @nalla1782 4 роки тому +1

    mob mentality really sucks.

  • @sapphirefyos6071
    @sapphirefyos6071 3 роки тому

    this guy sounds like eating during video recording xd

  • @BooGoesDaGhost
    @BooGoesDaGhost 5 років тому +1

    WhiteCat in OWC... Germany will be number 1 for sure.

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +2

      ...next year, as he has a year long cooldown from badged and official tournaments.

    • @noalfps
      @noalfps 5 років тому

      @@0x84f why?

    • @MrDjmegamix
      @MrDjmegamix 5 років тому

      @@noalfps It's just how it is.. osu staff wont let them compete in badged and official tournaments for a year. Imagine just coming back and straightup going to tournaments.

    • @noalfps
      @noalfps 5 років тому

      @@MrDjmegamix Well ok, pretty late to answer.

  • @mickayyy9093
    @mickayyy9093 5 років тому +3

    Gut

  • @melv9877
    @melv9877 5 років тому +3

    good job making this video like from me

  • @Wrennvy
    @Wrennvy 5 років тому +1

    As of yesterday, he did achieve rank #2 and he could realistically make #1 at this rate.

  • @kecHik445
    @kecHik445 5 років тому

    i used to watch WhiteCat on private server and liking him but now he's just try harding to fc every farm maps.
    interest 0

    • @looz727
      @looz727 5 років тому +2

      Probably to take revenge on osu!support community ahaha
      Not saying osu!support team did anything wrong, I can see their point of view as moderators

    • @seraph1007
      @seraph1007 4 роки тому +1

      Fc every farm map? You're quite dumb aren't you

    • @kecHik445
      @kecHik445 4 роки тому

      @@seraph1007 aren't ya?

    • @alxz3707
      @alxz3707 4 роки тому

      @@kecHik445 look at his embryo hr fc and sound chimera one miss and road of resistance hr fc

    • @kecHik445
      @kecHik445 4 роки тому

      @@alxz3707 that shit is goood

  • @kuroscloud265
    @kuroscloud265 5 років тому +8

    No hate but it's hard to understand you sometimes but still good job!

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +20

      That's why I have subtitles made for every video (not auto-generated, they are written by me), thanks for checking me out!

    • @kuroscloud265
      @kuroscloud265 5 років тому

      @@0x84f Ouw my bad sorry

    • @starrysergal9376
      @starrysergal9376 5 років тому +1

      @@0x84f thank you for the subtitles, i really appreciate them considering im bad at english

    • @mylifesucks3404
      @mylifesucks3404 5 років тому

      @@0x84f please make spanish subs ill apreciate it 🙏

  • @Swaex
    @Swaex 5 років тому +3

    I mean its cool that people take their time to make videos like this and i appreciate it but i cant watch it when i have to constantly think of what he is saying because of his english it really hurts in my ears

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому

      You can turn on subtitles then, they are handmade so they can be as accurate as possible

    • @Swaex
      @Swaex 5 років тому

      @@0x84f okay thanks :) good video tho

  • @nitroblueuk
    @nitroblueuk 5 років тому

    Guy get's banned for the same amount of time Cookeizi was banned...... for multi accounting and boosting. Sure sure I call shennanigans

    • @NneonNTJ
      @NneonNTJ 5 років тому +3

      atleast watch the video, bans on osu are never with a time limit. if you get banned for even spamming in chat you will never get unbanned unless your appeal goes trough

  • @bobholly8393
    @bobholly8393 5 років тому +1

    1138.

  • @geonedomotohama7313
    @geonedomotohama7313 4 роки тому

    what's new? community always be like this lmao.

  • @adumbledoor394
    @adumbledoor394 5 років тому

    "staying on #2 and having fun" LOL And now he is #1 xD

  • @warpscon
    @warpscon 5 років тому

    cool

  • @traverthegoat
    @traverthegoat 5 років тому +2

    hey hes #2 epic

    • @boxter.
      @boxter. 5 років тому +3

      now #1 :)

  • @vietjoii
    @vietjoii 5 років тому +3

    are you choking?

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +5

      Are you?

  • @Smellvin_1
    @Smellvin_1 3 роки тому

    #1

  • @jormundaggrfarlier5010
    @jormundaggrfarlier5010 5 років тому +1

    Your voice is unbearable man

  • @Triantalex
    @Triantalex 5 років тому +1

    I think he is still cheating tbh, the auto mod after scores confuses me too much.

    • @Pristine0
      @Pristine0 5 років тому +21

      The explanation for that is when he searches song names then tries to delete it, he instinctively types in ctrl + A to select all, but that hotkey turns on automod as well

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +9

      @@Pristine0 Exactly what he said. This has happened to me (and a lot of other players) for a while, it's completely normal.

    • @chaptur
      @chaptur 5 років тому

      terrible logic

    • @epicpeegaming2438
      @epicpeegaming2438 5 років тому +7

      Triantalex even thought they already explained, why did you say “still cheating” he has never cheated at all

    • @psyraxe
      @psyraxe 5 років тому

      lmao it happens to me all the time lol

  • @Reiyujin_guitar
    @Reiyujin_guitar 5 років тому +1

    First!

  • @MagicDadi
    @MagicDadi 5 років тому +1

    Get a nose

    • @0x84f
      @0x84f  5 років тому +5

      Nose acquired. Mission successful.

    • @zaxgn
      @zaxgn 4 роки тому

      @@0x84f Love you bro! Keep it up and ignore this stupid comments (◍•ᴗ•◍)

  • @keirio9748
    @keirio9748 4 роки тому

    This video should be made around 2 - 3 years after he got unbanned coz that would be very remarkable. Cant imagine that he is actually a year older younger than me, yet i am so bad and nowhere near his skills 😅

  • @henrique_nvm
    @henrique_nvm 3 роки тому

    and fall again

    • @BaamYTB
      @BaamYTB 3 роки тому

      and rise again