Nikola & IVECO: The Savior Of Electric Trucks
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Nikola was almost bankrupt after some scandals surrounding their prototypes and the now infamous downhill test. Then came IVECO boss Gerrit Marx and now the two are revolutionizing long-distance trucking together in an unexpected twist to the Nikola tale.
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'Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me... You can't get fooled again!'" - Bush
Was he a bright person in your eyes?
🤔
Fool me once shame on the pony soldier bed post crocodile. -Biden when allowed to go into public
@@Aircam73
Deal with it. 😎
@@TheRealBizWiz Unfortunately we are all dealing with it in higher food prices, higher gas prices, increasing violence, illegal immigration rapidly increase and the largest increase in inflation in the last 40 years.
@@Aircam73 There we go! Got you to cough up what you were really upset about. I’m actually doing quite well. I did well through President Obama, President Trump and doing well during the Biden administration.
It’s unfortunate that things are going so badly for you. I hope your situation improves.
Stop trying to base everything on some old CEO that's long gone. Why do people still talk about that? The company has moved on, and seems to be making an awesome truck. I'm impressed.
Awesome IVECO trucks with a Nikola grill. Lol
No profit selling IVECO trucks with Bosch-engine and Battery from China.
Nikola will run out of money, and go BANKRUPT in near future...
@@mikafiltenborg2291Nikola going strong and growing stronger each quarter.
Trevor Milton is going to jail for fraud
.... And he's scam company will go bankrupt before end of 2022 when they run out of money.
Bye Bye Nikola! :-)
No profit selling IVECO trucks with a Nikola grill. Lol
@@mikafiltenborg2291 Nikola has more than enough liquid cash to make it for the full year, and that’s assuming they have 0 revenue, which certainly won’t happen either.
Nikola creates, designs, and manufactures these trucks, these aren’t iveco trucks with a Nikola logo on them. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, and only have surface level knowledge of the company at best.
Repaying Nikola $ 168 million is a victory too.
@Mac10943 you clearly DON'T know how to read... my comment was focused only on the fate of the founder Mr. Milton...not the company
@@LuisMendoza-pp9qi Mike comment was @ Mika...not you.
A company built on fraud now trying to do real stuff? Good luck~ but personally I will put any trust to them before seeing any delivery
stock will then be at 200
@@togowack IVECO or Nikola? I'm sure Nikola could turn things around, but they are currently under investigation by two separate governmental bodies for fraud. Also, the previous CEO is going to jail. I'd not bet that Nikola is going to the moon anytime soon if I were you.
@@sebastianorye2702 I wouldnl't be worried about the fraud of a system called the US govt. Corrupt like a 3rd world country at every level. I Find out in these discussions, the majority of people lose money and have no idea how to invest.
@@togowack Yeah, no doubt the US is extremely corrupt with regard to the auto sector, but it's widely recognized that Nikola did commit fraud towards its investors. This is the undeniable truth, with the former CEO going to prison as well. This is not saying that they won't make it out of their deep hole, but this video is sugar-coating their situation. They've lost their investors and support with other companies. Also, a lot of their valuable deals and connections have been cut.
@@sebastianorye2702 You must be working really hard on these replies. The SEC is as corrupt all the other govt departments. In coming years they will have to be reformed. If the debacle with Gamestop and Robinhood wasn't enough earlier this year, Nikola is obviously a problem for the oil companies.
A Qi plate to charge, and a way to fast charge would also help. It would require MW power levels to be as fast as a Tesla.
Good advertisement.
i like the title "Nikola was almost bankrupt after some scandals surrounding their prototypes ", prototypes that were advertised as fully working vehicles. They make theranos look legit.
Its not about daring, but the ability to deliver!
Nikola now the North American delivery leader
Just sell them as Iveco trucks, Nikola literally adds zero
You literally has no clue.
What you say, is the opposite of what Iveco themselves say. I would think their opinion has more value than yours :-)
Agree!! Nikola have NOTHING
This scam company will go bankrupt before end of 2022 when they run out of money!!!! 🚩🚩
@@bjrntofteeng6100 That's because Iveco hopes that Nikola can sell some product with the hype. The truth is, if Nikola adds too much on the price, no one will buy their trucks. But the trucks are made 90% of third party parts (like Bosch, Iveco etc.), dus their cost for 1 truck is for example $60k and if they sell it for $70k they won't make ANY profit because of other costs (engineers, building, facilities etc.). Their whole business plan is just bound to fail.
Look at Tesla, they nearly went bankrupt 25x and did everything INHOUSE.
@@mikafiltenborg2291 What a funny guy you are. Nikola got 1,1 billion dollars available in cash. More than enough to cover 2022. And when 2022 is done, Nikola will have a production capacity of 20 000 trucks. Imagine the revenue yourself. On top of that Nikola has no debt. Do you think investors have any problem with a company that have a brand new factory with a production capacity of 20 000 trucks and no debt ?
It would be nice if you Teslaboys think before you come up with your nonsense. (Or check your claims before you make a fool of yourselves)
But you sure are funny 👍😁
@@bjrntofteeng6100 you obviously can not talk sense into some people. They will one day look back with regret, that they did not take this rarely offered opportunity.
Hard to believe they are talking about the Nikola company that's balls deep in Fraud Charges. You are devaluing the DW brand.
I think we all know the past with Milton. What's your point?
More commercial fleets are talking about and testing Nikola trucks and placing orders and receiving deliveries.
I wish I could unsee this. As an American I have been watching news from various DW channels. However, this is pure advertising. I am now concerned about the integrity of the DW franchise. Whether or not H2 ever becomes viable in transportation, one cannot gloss over the fraudulent behavior of Nikola to this point. It is not merely alleged by critics, it is under active investigation by the US government will some penalties already enacted.
Personally, I do not understand the interest in H2 as a transportation fuel, particularly in Europe. For the research I have heard of to date H2 is a very inefficient store of energy. Producing H2 with otherwise curtailed renewable energy stores a relatively small percentage of that energy for future use. Several other technologies besides H2, notably batteries, have higher cycle efficiency when effecting such storage. DW would be better served to explore the entire H2 economy so that, if it is viable, skeptics like me can be quieted. No one to date has been able to produce such a report, at least that I can find.
If one performed the engineering I think they would find that the equivalent stationary battery capacity as employed in the truck fleet, dispensing the energy when the trucks need to be charged, likely still has a significantly higher efficiency from generation to wheels turning than the H2 cycle.
People that don't like Nikola because they like Elon will never see hydrogen for what it is. It's not even worth re explaining it.
Good luck with your massive earth destroying batteries that pollute like nothing else and are still powered by fossil fuels.
@@user-xn4qp6gq2s I don't get your point. The physics is that H2 provides a heat of combustion of roughly 39 kWh/kg. Previous estimates of mine placed a class 8 rig requiring about 2 kWh/mile.
A sanity check for diesel at about 11.5 kWh/kg and a diesel engine/transmission operating at 40% efficiency would consume about 0.43 kg/mile, or roughly 7 miles/gallon. For 500 miles that is 215 kg or 67 gallons. That seems to be in the ballpark for consumption that I find on the internet.
Back to H2. With a fuel cell efficiency of 60% we get an available energy of 23 kWh/kg of H2. I neglect the remaining losses as they are similar to the battery electric drive train the 2 kWh/mile is based on. The FCEV consumes .09 kg/mile, or about 45 kg/500 miles. That 45 kg occupies quite a volume even at 700 bar.
If the truck crosses the scales at the beginning of the trip it does not matter if most of the fuel is burned by the end of the trip.
@@user-xn4qp6gq2s The Tesla Model S battery weighs 1200 lbs, or about 545 kg since I was using kg earlier. Based on Tesla's claim of 500 miles for a fully loaded rig and my estimate of 2 kWh/mile the Tesla semi battery should be about 1 MW or 10 times the Model S or 12,000 lbs. This is likely an 8,000 lb penalty over a diesel engine and transmission. With Tesla's new structural battery pack design I imagine some number of pounds are saved in the structure of the truck but I will ignore those. Using the new federal gross weight requirements for alternative fuel trucks the 8000 lb penalty represents about 10% of the total gross weight.
Weight only impacts rolling resistance and energy required to change elevation. The energy required to overcome rolling resistance is constant per distance traveled. I found test results on the web that measured heavy truck rolling resistance coefficient at around 0.007. Using 0.01 to be conservative, the 8,000 pound penalty of the battery represents resistance force of 356 Newtons. The energy per mile due to overcoming this force is ~570 kNm/mile or 0.159 kWh/mile. Based on an average 2 kW/mile this represents an 8% penalty.
Considering only the energy either put into the battery or H2 tanks and the onboard conversion efficiencies, this weight penalty reduces the onboard efficiency of the BEV to about 80% vs. the 60% I used for the FCEV. Even if the price per unit energy were the same for H2 and electricity, the BEV is still more economic to operate.
A better view is to contrast the battery mass against the average payload rather than the rated GVW but I'm tired now. This analysis does not make BEV's a slam dunk but it illustrates an accurate analysis is much more complex than identifying the battery mass as outright disqualifying the BEV.
@@user-xn4qp6gq2s As I said in my previous comment, fleets will learn to operate BEV's in a manner that maximizes return on equity. Starting out with a lower operating cost per mile will motivate them to find the appropriate charging profile. While repeated rapid charging does accelerate degradation your numbers seem as high to me as my estimates of energy per mile seems low to you.
Many operators do not like to take their sleep breaks in truck stops due to the noise of adjacent trucks. However, I can imagine a series of 250 kW chargers in a BEV parking area permitting 1.5 MW/6 hour break, or more than enough to charge a 500-mile truck. The same size chargers available at a 1/2 hour meal break is an additional 125 kWh or more than 10% per break.
The operator of a FCEV is "on duty" wile queued and during refueling. The BEV operator is "on break" once the cable is connected. In my view, Megachargers should be available fairly frequently but accompanied by a number of 250 kW chargers at each location that grows as the fleet grows. The current Tesla gen 3 charger is 250 kW so these are straightforward.
The infrastructure described above does not exist today just as H2 refueling does not exist today. Tesla has two factories building Superchargers, one of which has an annual production capacity of 10,000/year.
Rumors have it that Pepsi will receive the first of their Tesla Semi's by the end of the year so we can possibly start learning about battery degradation in about a year.
I worked hard about three years ago to convince myself that H2 could be made to work economically. Most projections on H2 cost at that time relied on 0 or negative cost energy to produce the H2 when renewable energy would otherwise be curtailed. The deployment of grid-scale batteries and other storage will rapidly dry up the availability of that energy. The battery is over 80% efficient cycling the energy whereas the H2 supplier loses at least 15% in electrolysis alone, then must compress the H2 and dispense, or worse, transport and dispense. The FCEV must purchase 50% more energy equivalent of H2 for the same mission that the BEV operator does.
In my region, a provider can participate in electricity arbitrage with a connected power rating of 100 kW. A truck stop installing a Megapack can become a participant in energy arbitrage, purchasing cheap electricity and selling at a market price to the recharging truck. As BEV's become more popular the facility scales very easily.
While FCEV's may offer some performance advantages for certain missions it comes at a premium in complexity, infrastructure and renewable energy input. Until we are again overproducing on renewable energy once the last nightly fossil peaker is offline does H2 have a chance at "zero energy cost" production.
Former employees were proven to make fraudulent statements, they are not Nikola the company... Nikola now leads in zero emission Semi tractors in North America.
If they want to get these trucks moving all across America they need to make them affordable for the one truck owner operator and stand behind him/her with rapid response service crews and lack of downtime compensation to give them loyalty to the brand. Also a bigger sleeper and dedicated charging areas at American truck stops. I’m told the price of one of these battery electric tractors is around $350,000 and for that much money an owner operator can go out and get a really nicely equipped conventional tractor and a trailer to boot.
"Conviction" is certainly the right word. in so many ways.
Exactly!
How can you build on fraud and lies?
풋. 이 커멘트도 지겹다 이젠.
You are living the past, your choice to stay stuck in the past.
You can't (for ever)
This scam company (Founded by a professional liar and scammer Trevor Fraud Meltdown) will NEVER make any profit, selling IVECO trucks with a Nikola grill. Lol
Nikola will run out of money and go BANKRUPT before end of 2022...
@@elvisdadzie2532 By putting the best Nikola trucks on the market.
The truck that they previously "rolled out" 🤪😂😂😂
If you don't get it , leave it
I do 'get it' but 'leave it' because that's in the past.
Thick
What a bs. Is the reporter paid by Nikola and IVECO?
Utterly amazed that this company is still going or that any one takes them even remotely seriously.
@@tylerdunford6031 That is very possible, but Nikola is currently under investigation by separate government organizations for fraud. Also, the last CEO is probably going to prison. They lost a great part of their past deals with companies as well. Anyway, I haven't heavily researched this topic, so I won't waffle about it anymore. Source: ua-cam.com/video/GgOeSXvv-wc/v-deo.html
@@tylerdunford6031 I'm not saying that they won't be able to turn it around, but they are in deep water right now, and this video is sugarcoating their situation more than I'd had expect from the German press.
@@sebastianorye2702 Why are they in deep water right now? If you had said that 12 months ago then I would understand where you were coming from. But now the situation is very different. Nikola and Iveco have been making great progress with the Tre over the last year. It’s all looking very positive as far as I can tell.
@@sideshowlol apologies, but to clarify, they had a lot of deals and connections cut due to their past fraud, and are currently under investigation by 2 governmental bodies for fraud towards investors. The past CEO has already been charged. It's not to say that they won't make it, but compared to their past situation, they seem to be in a worse state. As I haven't researched this topic a lot, take it with a grain of salt.
@@tylerdunford6031 but bosch is only selling them stuff. It is not a real partnership.
The "Nikola" truck has "Iveco" on the steering wheel. So what does Nikola do besides put a decal on the front?
I know they make the powertrain, suspension system, and all the software associated with the vehicle. The cab for the Tre is IVECO and they have a separate battery supplier.
@@tylerdunford6031 Don't need to read an SEC filing to know a scam when I see it.
NOTHING!
But this scam company will go bankrupt, when they run out of money (in 2022 or before Q1 2023)
That's it doing the right thing
Not as impressive as the first prototype the company ROLLED OUT. An excelent choice of words.
first one was Rolled out of the hill to shoot commercial 😂
With only 350 miles range and 2 hours recharge times (from 10% to 80% charge) the Nikola Tre BEV will probably have limited applications. Probably more suited to the shorter distances travelled in Europe rather than in USA. The current lack of BEV truck charging stations is also a limiting factor.
not to mention the weight of the tractor unit/ semi, about twice that of a traditional diesel truck. I get the impression that all the units delivered so far have been for off road use, and I cannot find evidence of on road certification in the states. can anyone help there.
Also you are wrong to suggest EU articulated trucks travel shorter distances than the states. European markets have been integrated for a long time.
The load capacity seems low compared to the other electric trucks that are already available. and the air resistance is going to be very poor with box trailers in the us configuration.
I hope Iveco can find a battery solution to make the truck viable in Europe as I feel battery selection is going to be the trucks downfall.
@@davidclark2286 in the US the LA and Baltimore has been using them to deliver containers between depots so they have the full road cert including US DOT LIC #'s.
@@khoatran9482 where’s a video of a Tre moving containers in LA?
Portland, lol. Who cares?
These styles of trucks and Clean energy truck will become more common everyday in US and Canadian fleets. Nikola leading the way in 2024.
What a scam!
This scam company (Nikola) will run out of money before end of 2022 and go BANKRUPT. :-)
@@brauliocantu7478 Now in 2024.. What a Leader
6:44 Hydrogen is not an energy source, it's an energy medium. And hydrogen vehicles are not emission free, obviously, otherwise they wouldn't need exhaust pipes.
But I'm not surprised this got past the editors when this whole video is just a giant Hydrogen commercial. Even for that this is just embarrassing.
Hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles are classified as zero emissions vehicles because they produce no harmful tailpipe emissions. They do produce water vapor, but that does not harm the environment. In fact, research has shown that if every vehicle in the world was an hydrogen FCEV, there would be no environmental damage at all from the water vapor they emit. That’s what matters when it comes to classifying them a “zero emissions vehicles.”
@@Zorkmid123 Yes, but nothing is real zero emissions, you need 4 times as much electricity to produce hydrogen compared to using that electricity directly in a battery truck. Hydrogen trucks are atleast 4 times as polluting compared to electric trucks (atlest because you also need energy to transport that hydrogen). It also cost 17 times more to fill up a hydrogen truck compared to battery electric truck.
And I suppose your coal and nuclear waste is green....oh wait nuclear waste is green on the Simpsons.
Hydrogen is a waste of time and energy and money
Nicola, the savior of electric trucks? Is it 1st of April already?
Now it is.
Nikola putting the Clean energy truck rubber on the roads ahead of all the competition.
Did you heard about a small company named VOLVO? Their long range and mid range on the road and the already talking with local governments and large truck companies to establish a charging network and more..
I never hear the stories talk about first use in port facilities. Getting them into the Port of LA will be a big deal.
Nikola heard you.
Congratulations
Iveco is super!...but nikola I'm sorry,you have to come again.
Does anybody know if there are Nikola tre trucks already sold to transport companies and working? If I'm not in a mistake, the Ulm factory started to produce units last month at a rithm of three per day.
Regards.
Yup. I work at Nikola. I can confirm this.
Yes and today Nikola is the Leader
Check out Sandy Monroe's report on Nikola...
No.
@@MC-mh2ju stay in ignorance
What’s the range now?
Wont it have been better for IVECO to market and brand these trucks under their name rather than the Nikola name? The Nikola brand is not only worthless, its a negative, as it is synonymous with Trevor Milton and fraud. And Nikola is also actually doing nothing in this partnership.
I think Nikola will be a Iveco subsidiary for US market in the next future
@Bob K An interview of Iveco CEO said that Nikola will open to Iveco the North America market. Considering that Iveco make Electric Van, bus and semi.
@@ettorefieramosca5460 Ivesco and Nikola are partners, Nikola supports their European market and Ivesco supports Nikola with Chassis for North America.
Isn't IVECO an Italian brand?🤔
Yes it is
im not suprised they decided to make their Factory in Germany. Volvo,Scania,Benz already do. (Scania,Man owned By Volkswagen Group) . DAF is made in Netherlands
Iveco is not popular trucks . it perhaps will help each other .
@@Niklez7 iveco is very popular.. And innovative brand.... You are not living in Europe...
@@Niklez7 Iveco has the same market share than Scania in Europe, around 13% of the entire market. Regarding light trucks and vans, Iveco + Fiat have the biggest share of market in Europe, around 35% of the entire market in Europe. So you're definitely wrong.
@@samuelbae3318 no it is not, not anymore.
Oh great the scam truck is back.
@@tylerdunford6031 do the research yourself nikola fanboi, no need to get butthurt.
@@tylerdunford6031 You’re right, maybe they aren’t scamming anymore but that isn’t the real issue.
Trevor Milton scammed everyone by making them believe Nikola had some insane tech that nobody else has.
After leaving the company and facing jail time you think Nikola just achieved all the things he lied about?
No, they only got rid of him but not the problem that they aren’t the technology company he claimed.
All that combined with the fact that we would need 2-3 times as much clean energy to power hydrogen vehicles compared to BEVs.
We are struggling to have enough clean energy for 100% BEVs, how do you think we can achieve 2-3 times that much clean energy?
@@Glenhh yep you are right. Its just some nikola fanbois here still believes everything travis milton and co are saying after scamming multiple people/company so many times for monetary gain. Milton is an asshole and deserves to go to jail.
@@tylerdunford6031 One piece of evidence that's enough to prove Nikola is still a bad bet is that Trevor Milton is the only one out of the picture. Mark Russell knew pretty much everything about Trevor's lies, but didn't take action. I can only assume he has some sort of deal with the DOJ and others, or he would be out of the picture too. What kind of deal? Maybe snitching on Trevor for everything that couldn't be proven on paper or otherwise? Could be. How else could he get away clean?
The fact remains that Mark kept Trevor's lies as truth in the eyes of the public for as long as Trevor was there. I have no idea why anyone would trust Mark Russell after all that. And yet, he's running the company.
Now about that Nikola "will deliver", you seem far too sure. Do you work for Nikola or you can't expect supply shortages to stay in the way of Nikola delivering stuff by the end of this year? How can you be so sure about them? I don't see why you would trust them so much, especially with their history and their current leadership.
@@kneekoo happy about you stock manipulating trolls last chance to buy Nikola stock at these lows
comparing tesla to nikola is just ridiculous, as is your agenda supporting the federal hydrogen strategy (regarding road transportation)
Nikola trucks ramping up production and Tesla putting out fires. No comparison.
Well can't be any worse then the bull shit that's going on in lordstown.......in my opinion Nikolas platform aways seemed like it would catch on sooner and then the fuel cell would definitely raise the bar semi trucks need range at least 600 to 700 miles then charge on the driver's 10 hour break at truck stop chargers.
Looks like Nikola hydrogen/: electric trucks will fill the Long range needs in some markets.
😂😂scam Truck 😂😂 public won't believe on you again
A new truck brand: "SCAM YA"
Nikola already proving themselves to fleet customers and global investors. The 2024 leader.
Excellent video. Thank you. Nikola and iveco will be the leaders.
@@cepaposible Nikola will start delivering trucks to customers next month. So very soon.
@@Zorkmid123 nice to meet you here again
How much $ do I need to spend to drive their truck 100 miles?
Do you have a number for H2 from natural gas and H2 from clean energy?
Thanks.
It´s quite a sign of desperation when a company chooses to work with a known fraud like Nikola.
Nikola will be the Leader in Fraud and bankruptsy :-) lol
Scamming investors..
Nikola bankrupt before end of 2022 when they run out of money...
So we are finally getting the hi-tech cab overs in the states that the Europeans had for year's! Great even if they won't be diesel powered.
Drivers don't want those
Savior? How about deliver first and brag later? That would be mighty decent after everything that happened.
Far ahead of Tesla taking the time to work out the bugs first.
@@togowack Tesla doesn't want hydrogen fuel cells in the first place, and their EV trucks have already been tested extensively. So they're not competing in terms of technology, but rather as truck makers.
Now I don't care that what Elon thinks about hydrogen "fool cells". They are indeed more expensive than batteries, but someone has to push research and development further to drive down the cost. There are certainly good applications for it, we just have to make it safe and cheap enough.
@@kneekooLooks like Tesla has a lot more testing to do, while Nikola keeps leading in deliveries.
Nikola delivered 72 trucks in Q2 2024 and expects 80 to 100 in Q3.. Leading the industry and future.
@@2023gainer Leading is great, but 72 is... hopefully enough to keep the lights on at Nikola. I hope they'll do fine and survive. But that's a far cry from calling them a savior. :)
As for Tesla, they're known to take it slow in the beginning of a new model because then they ramp up fast, so they want a product as refined as possible before they speed up production. And it's also a known fact that they prioritized the sales of their cars before anything else, including the Cybertruck, due to battery constraints.
Now they're doing pretty well with the batteries (over 100 million 4680 cells produced in-house), and the Tesla Semi also did great in testing, so they're probably close to the long awaited ramp up. I think the Tesla Semi will do great, but it still doesn't matter who leads, as long as we remove the stinkers off the road, and hopefully Nikola will stay in business and help in this transition.
Nikola is just a sticker or a logo. IVECO has done all the job and IMO they are building BEV trucks and not hydrogen trucks. But there are a lot of NKLA stocks to fire sell, and it can be juicy for those in the game.
Iveco just provides the truck chassis, Nikola makes the magic happen. Nikola now the industry leader in North America.
Let's hope Nikola can be better this time and make there promise with there new CEO
And newer CEO ... Nikola Now leading the Charge.
Future of trucks is not electric but Hydrogen.
Yup, with no infrastructure, 4 times the cost of electric and double the cost of diesel and can pollute just as bad if not worse. Sounds like something every business owner wants to buy into. Higher prices, no place to fuel and still has the pollution to make the fuel through natural gas steam reformation.
@@Aircam73 electricity wasn't always available either. Some of us are able to think ahead
@@togowack Electricity has been available in just about all the developed countries for the last 50 years. All companies or homeowners have to do is install a very cheap charger compared to what it takes to put in a hydrogen filling station which runs in the multiple millions and costs hundreds of thousands to run every year. Of course that is the easy part. Now trying to convince businesses to put in hydrogen filling stations that will amount to HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS TO INSTALL. Then they get to pay anywhere from 2 to 4 times as much for the fuel. When they are done laughing you out of the building because that is what most businesses will do when they think ahead to what it will be like to run hydrogen for their trucks.
@@Aircam73 technically speaking the material isn't hundreds of billions, it's mostly just pipe, and yes of course they pay RIGHT NOW high prices, just like it would have been for electricity, which you couldn't even get 100 years ago.
@@Aircam73 You think when 80% of the population are using electric cars the PPP of electric will still be low like it is now? Petrol is currently going to £1.50! forget diesel. Logistics need miles! Electric does not provide. Trucks are heavy enough.
talking to much, now its time to deliver
Od (Renault i Iveco)a trzymaj się z daleka
United States of Rebadging.
New badge, same problems?
Why don't they just call it Iveco trucks? Nikola brings no value.
Nikola was able to bring a lot of hype
@@iihoipoiii Enough to take billions from investors.
Because Nikola is a lying SCAM company. They will never make any profit, selling IVECO trucks with a Nikola grill. Lol
BANKRUPT before end of 2022!
(They will run out of money)
@@mikafiltenborg2291 Wrong, they provide the chassis, Nikola global suppliers provide the rest, just like all vehicle manufacturers.
cost / Km will be the true metric that is important and i dont think hydrogen will win there compared to BEV's
There is no thinking involved it is just straight up math and anyone who is thinking will know how horrible hydrogen will be as a fuel when it comes to cost. Considering green hydrogen uses 2 to 3 times the amount of electricity just to be produced then the loses from transporting to using it make it far more expensive than just using electricity in an EV in the first place. If you use steam reformation then you are polluting just as bad if not worse than diesel and it still costs more to make.
Exactly! It cost 17 times more to fill up a hydrogen truck compared to battery electric truck.
look at adamsomething's criticism of the tesla semi - it goes to some interesting detail on why BEV trucks aren't really easy to achieve right now - hydrogen is a good stop gap
It's a tricky situation because the cost of hydrogen would go down significantly if there was a greater supply from more electrolysis plants, but people won't invest in building those plants if there isn't the demand from hydrogen powered vehicles. At the end of the day, someone has to make that leap even if it's not economical in the short term.
Hydrogen is a valid long term solution, whereas batteries won't be viable outside of a major increase in energy density. Maybe if they ever figure out aluminum ion batteries, but I'm not holding my breath.
@@Prolute If you use electrolysis to create hydrogen you will never lower the price it will only go up. Right now electrolysis accounts for less than 1% of hydrogen production because it costs 2-3 times as much to create hydrogen through electrolysis vs steam reformation and there is no way that you can ever get that cost down no matter how large of a scale you make it. This isn't an assembly plant this is a law of physics that doesn't care how big or small the electrolysis plant is. It will still take 2 to 3 times the energy/cost to make hydrogen whether you are producing 1kg or 1,000,000 kg.
Nikola longs . Who is with me ? Crash shorts !!!
Your NKLA stock go to 0$ before Q1 2023, when they run out of money and go BANKRUPT.
Nikola can't make any profit selling IVECO trucks with a Nikola grill. Lol
Awww, here come the Fool Cells again. Now this joke of a company has some desperate German friends to roll downhill.
Nikola leads the competition.
They say in the video that Ulm can make 3,000 trucks per year, but their plans for the first two years are very modest for some reason. Just a hundred or two.
have learned from Tesla trying too big too fast.
Yup the only way a self-admitted fifth rate manufacturer can achieve anything is to be part of the "disruption" (aka vandalism) of the existing industry and hope to emerge out of the rubble slightly ahead of the others.
It is a true sad sight to see the German auto industry crumbling. What's this crap here? An attempt at grabbing the next Tesla? The only next Tesla is Tesla.
Tesla Semi tractor burning..not trying to be the next Tesla, Nikola leads Tesla.
Nice innovation...
Epic.
Где эта нормальная американская кабина со спальником ?????
I used to regard DW as a good channel. However, this biased and factually inaccurate documentary on Nikola tells me you have a hidden agenda. Very sad. Definitely thumbs down for this awful presentation, and I can never trust DW to be factally impartial again.
Looks like DW saw the future correctly. Nikola leads the Charge and Hydrogen Electric tech for Semi tractors.
I’m disappointed in my home state (CA) it’s always about emissions.
Air Quality, Health should always be a top priority for all states that care about their residents.
Plug Power!
$500 stock in 2025 with Worlds Largest Hydrogen Network
🚩Nikola bankrupt before end of 2022 when they run out of money!!! 🚩
@@mikafiltenborg2291 Oh yeah there are still thick morons like yourselves believing that 😅 whos investing these days 😅😅😅😅 back to school
buy more Nikola share. Good luck backrupting yourself.
Hahaha in your dreams🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mikafiltenborg2291 your dreams
Long Live Nikola ❤
BEV trucks beats diesel, but hydrogen is twice as expensive as a fuel. Hydrogen is dumb. No trucking company will replace their fleet with a truck that is: 1) More expensive to fuel. 2) More expensive to maintain. 3) and more expensive to purchase.
Companies lining up for Nikola Hydrogen/ Electric trucks. Leader in North America.
Lot of fancy words thats all
Now... Nikola leading the industry in North America truck deliveries.
Lol SCAMMMMM
Check their stock price in Q1 2022 when they deliver trucks to customer. Lol.....
Agree. Scam company
Nikola will run out of money before end of 2022 =BANKRUPT
@@mikafiltenborg2291 the world is desperate for electric trucks if they are as successful with hydrogen stock to the moon...
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Upward battle, from the American name association? REALLY? Short of renaming your product, how many you still sell your trucks?? ONE bad egg from Utah can do so much damage to a company name.
Nice piece of propaganda, not much truths.
It was strategy of Nikola so they can purchase share at lower price.
This video explains “Media cannot be bought.”
It sounds like Iveco and Bosch are building the trucks. Nikola is irrelevant except for marketing and I doubt they get more than a trivial fee because they’re not the important partner.
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Almost bankrupt? IVECO and Nikola always had this plan.TM was always going to hand the reigns over to MR. The partnership has been established from the beginning. TM was always going to hand over the reigns to MR---He said it in the summer of 2020....before the Hindenburg problem.
and so the scam lives on...
No scam now . Putting more zero emission trucks on the roads than all North America competitors combined.
Scam
Leader in the Green industry in 2024.
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This video is so sad and full of lies, so much CRINGE!
Nikola now the Leader with 72 Truck deliveries in Q2 2024.
@@2023gainer it’s almost bankrupt and 99% down 😂😂😂
@@santeenl Wrong on both points
@@2023gainer gl losing money
@@santeenl Loading the Dips for Larger Gains.
Good luck ! Nikola name is tainted. Change the name
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