How to Pronounce the R in Danish, Part 1:"the End-R"
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
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Part 1 is about the R in the end of a syllable. The R takes on a kind of vowel sound.
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In Denmark, after many decades of offering free lessons, Danish lessons became privatized and I could no longer afford the lessons when I first moved here and my progress came to a stop.
After discovering your channel, I have been so inspired to start learning Danish again and would like to contribute and support your cause in producing more videos that help so many people.
Thank you for doing this, I listen and watch and study every night.
Thank you very much, Shukraj!
It’s important to know that this type of R is actually a vowel-controlled R or an R-controlled vowel, so technically, it’s not just a regular A vowel, but an R-controlled A in this case, and one could even consider it an A-controlled R, as there is a slight R sound attached to it even when not emphasized, like in the word fisker, so one can tell that there is an R in spelling by hearing it, even without seeing the spelling, kinda like in many German words that have AR / ER / IR / OR / UR letter combinations and like in certain English words, even though the difference can be very subtle sometimes - the R-controlled vowels are a type of soft Rs, like the other Danish R and like the Icelandic / Gothic / Norse / Faroese Rs and like the Rs used in the neutral American accent and in Brazilian Portuguese / Welsh / Irish / Cornish / Manx / Breton / Scottish Gaelic / Latin etc, which are all soft types of Rs, and, this particular type of R which is vowel-controlled (when there is more vowel sound than R sound) or vowel-controlling (when there is more R sound than vowel sound or when there is half R sound and half vowel sound) can also have many variations, like every other type of R, so it can be more pronounced, and it can also be less pronounced, to the point where it sounds like it’s the vowel controlling the R or something like that, so there can be more R sound and less vowel sound (as in many or most English words and like in the Danish words ending in ere) and there can also be more of the vowel sound and less of the R sound (like in many Danish words like fisker that end in er) and it can even be half R sound and half vowel sound, and many of the variations in-between, so with every sound (vowel / consonant / diphthong) or type of sound it’s like a full spectrum with many different variations for each type of sound made with each possible technique and intensity etc!
Your pronunciation videos are the best that I have found. Seriously, your explanations are clear, detailed, and logical. I do not know what I would do without these, as I have no other way to access this kind of instruction. Jeg takker dig!
Tusind tak for din søde besked, Kathy! God fornøjelse med at lære dansk!
Same here
Thank you for this tutorial. I am struggling with R recently. Definitely helpful.
Good to hear :)
Thank you for this video! You explain things clearly and in detail, it's really helpful
Great explanation. This helps me very much. Thanks.
Great video! Pronunciation is so important to understand and be understood. Thanks for these lessons!
You're welcome, thanks for your comment!
Amazing! Thanks for this lesson 🙏🏼
Thanks for letting me know that you liked it!
Thanks for such an incredible material
Thank you very much!
Que bom que você está de volta!!! 🙏
Glad you're back! It's amazing how a single video made by you can solve so many questions... Your explanation is clear and objective, but it has depth of theory and practice. Congratulations!
Obrigada! Mange tak!!! 🙏🌟
Ohh, thank you so much for your nice words! Muito obrigado! I hope it's going forward on your Danish learning experience 😉
Again, I very much appreciate your systematic approach where you it all break down into the details of how to shape your mouth.
Thank you, Angela!
Mic, amazing video, as always! When I'm ready I'll contact you from your website to clear up some pronunciation quirks I have.
Thank you for the video mate!
Tusind tak! Awesome video! Thanks for explaining how to make the sounds, especially how to make the sounds our mouths 👍
Super, tak for din komentar :)
You’re great! Thank you for these explanations!
Thank you 🙂
Awesome teaching style, thank you!
Thank you very much!
Omg!! So clarifying, thank you!!
Thank you so much for these videos! I would love it if you did a video dedicated to pronunciation of Danish vowels.
Thank you for your comment and for your suggestion. I'm considering making a paid mini-course about the vowels in the future. But maybe I'll also make some free videos. Let's see... 🙂
The best Dansk lære 🙏 I’m preparing my A2 exam
Have fun, and good luck with the exam!
I enjoyed the pronunciation of “irriterende”.
Yeah, it's beautiful, isn't it? 😉
Tus videos son de mucha ayuda! thank you very much!! saludos desde argentina
Hola Dana! Muchas gracias 🙂 Que bueno que mis videos son útiles para ti. Buena sorte con el danés!
Learning your R Video again by lyngby lake, on the first morning after the queen had the speech against Coronavirus.
Youe videos can always give me a lot help and new hopes !
Wish I could make greater progress during the special period.
Keep going. ..
Thanks for your message!
Let's use these crazy times to do things that are important to us. For example study a language intensely.
Or rethink the way we live, our priorities, maybe even the way we have structured our societies.
I believe in you, you can learn Danish. And being out at Lyngby Sø is a great thing to do. Nature can be our allied in these crazy times. A lot better (and safer) to be out there than to stay at home.
Have fun!
Such a nice video. Thank you so much Mic!
Good to hear that you like it, thank you!
Thank you! I missed your uploads
Good to hear! Thank YOU :)
Thank you very much for the useful video. Vi ses!
Mic you just changed my life! Tusind tak!
Wow, that's a good compliment to get. Thanks, Carla! :)
Very good and clear explanation aborttilakia R sounds..,
thank you!
Que buen maestro!! Tusind tak!!
Invaluable pronunciation advice: now when I see the letter combo -eri- I can visualize it as /eai/!
Another pedagogical tour-de-force from Mic
Good job
Great video thank you ! I feel like the different sounds (fisker vs fiskere etc) are difficult for foreign ears to distinguish when a native Dane is speaking fast ! 😅 this helps a lot !
Byt native Danes can hear the difference (mostly) 🙂
Nice. Thanks.
Tak Mic, du får mig til at tænke på bestemte nationasprog og grænser da de blev moderne. Jeg er begejstret for den måde du fysisk beskriver vokalerenes udtale på.
Well! That’s the clearest description of that that I’ve come across.
Great, thank you 🙂
I love your shirt!!! 😍
me too :)
With the help of your shirt I was actually able to pronounce the native pronunciation of Copenhagen for the first time 😂
But srsly, being a native English speaker, with knowledge of German (from my Oma) you've helped me greatly with Danish....the first Nordic language I had contact with (through music). Some aspects of the R are similar to German, but not quite.😅
Haha, I'm glad the shirt was able to show you the correct pronunciation of København 😁
Thanks for your comment, I'm glad to hear that I've been useful :)
You are the best
This is enormously helpful! Tusind tak!
Thank you very much!
You're a genius! Thank you so much for this video. I really needed it 🙏🙏🙏
Oh, thank you so much 🙂
I'm glad it was helpful
OMG I LOVE UR VIDEOS U ARE SO PERFECT THANKS FOR EXISTING
Thanks a lot!
It's incredible. I love it when Chris Martin teaches me Danish.
Great work Mic. How about a video on the rhythm, in lack of a better word, you have to use in a sentence? How could we get some private lessons going?
Thanks for the suggestion, Stamatis. It would definitely make for a good video. Let me put it on my list and see if I can make it some time. I'll be starting making new videos very soon. Thanks for your interest in private lessons. Please write me on my website micslanguages.com. I'll be looking forward to hearing from you!
perfekt!
Fantastic, I learned a lot. Lots of laughing also
Hello Mic! Thanks for your videos! They're really helpful!
I wanted to ask if you know about a phonetic dictionary for danish, kinda showing words with their pronunciation in the IPA, I really struggle with some words
I think most online Danish dictionaries have IPA
E.g. Ordnet [dot] dk
You are a GEM
Thanks!!
Man,you are just soo sweet to do this,I'm from india,the first time I thought was,' damn Danish is soo terribly difficult', but trust me it is easy than you hear,'mange tak'.
Hi! I'm glad that it's helpful :)
It's not that difficult to learn Danish. Anything can be done with enough attention! Have fun!
Tak Mic !
Tak for videoen!
I'm looking for classes in Copenhagen, would you recommend something please?
I would recommend Danskbureauet, where I used to work. There, you can be sure that the teachers are qualified and the methodology is straight-forward, very immersive and practical.
Hi Mic! I really like your videos and I wish you would be my teacher! At Sprogcenter, we focus too much on grammar so we can hardly speak Danish after years study. Your video helps me a lot! Thank you so much! Look forward to watch more of yours🙏
Hi Jane! Thank you very much for your kind words.
Unfortunately, the old-school way of teaching languages is still wide-spread.
But this approach is not very good, especially with a language like Danish, where the biggest difficulty for most people is pronunciation.
In my teaching (for the moment I do online only), I mostly use target language only and do very few grammatical explanations, a lot less than on my videos here.
Unfortunately, my teaching approach is not easy to do in videos with one-way communication.
Anuway, I'm glad my videos help you. And I'm sorry I'm not your teacher 🙂
Mic's Languages Hi Mic! Thanks for your reply😊 is there anyway that I can learn from you online? Where can I get info? Since I work from home now as most of people, it’s the best time to learn more Danish for my Danish exam in May😜 look forward to hear from you😊
@@janelin9502 Yeah that would be nice. May I ask you to contact me through my site micslanguages.com, then I can send you a document with my rates.
Take care!
Mic's Languages Hi Mic! Sent😊 look forward to hear from you🤩 Tak og ILM
Thank u. This is SO helpful!! Do u have a video on vowel sounds? How does one hire u as a personal language teacher? 😊
I haven't made videos on any vowel sounds yet. I am keeping that as a topic for a paid course. I wanna make some courses in the future, with different topics and methodologies.
As to hiring me, you can drop me a message via my contact formular on www.micslanguages.com
Dav Mic! Det er altid en fornøjelse at kigge på dine videoer. Tusind tak for denne og alle dine andre videor jeg har set indtil nu. Det er interessant at bemærke at den danske R næsten bortfalder i ord som f.eks "eller", "mark" osv. Det gør den også i tysk, rigsengelsk og de fleste britiske dialekter af engelsk. Hav en rigtig god weekend :-)
Hej Multilingo Man! Tak, det er godt at du får noget ud af mine videoer. Og ja, DET danske R i slutningen af stavelser (bogstaver har artiklen et/det) er næsten det samme som det tyske og britiske. Når man sammenligner det danske og det tyske R, så ville jeg sige at for eksempel endelsen -er udtales lidt anderledes i Hochdeutsch, men i Østtyskland er denne lyd muligvis helt identisk med det danske -er. Med alle de dialekter du har studeret, kender du vel sikkert også det stereotypiske billede som tyskere har af østtyskere, fx folk fra Sachsen.
En rigtig god weekend også til dig! 😉
@@MicsLanguages Tak for dit hurtige svar! Ja, jeg har studeret tysk og besøgt Leipzig så jeg kender godt de stereotypiske billeder vesttyskere har af østtyskere og omvendt! Ja, jeg tror at jeg hører forskellen mellem DET danske -R og det højtyske R i endelsen -er. Det sidstnævnte ligner det britiske mens det danske R udtales nok lidt nedre og måske fremre i munden, Endnu en gang ønsker jeg en rigtig god weekend :-)
Ja, det lyder meget rigtigt! :)
I mine britiske ører lyder det ikke, som om 'R' er bortfaldet. Sådan vil jeg ikke beskrive det, but that's because my way of understanding letter combations is different to a native Danish speaker. I would say that the R combined with the 'E' takes on a different sound. It's not gone. It's morphed😄
almost every languages has silent letter in a words and like writing something and pronunciation differently. But I think only in Nepali language there is no silent letter and they pronounce what they exactly write. And also they have 12 vowels and 36 consonants. But writing script itself is little bit difficult..
i like your shirt btw. where can i buy one? 😁
Tusind tak Mic! 🙂
Spændende lektion. Du er dygtig 💪
Tak!
So this is where you have a huge advantage when you know german, I think. The end-r sound in Danish seems to be the same as in German. When you say "fisker" in Danish, the end-er sound sounds exact the same as when you say the German word "Fischer".
Yeah the R is the same in these two languages, both types of R. But I would say the ending "er" is slightly different. Where Danish has this rounded lip sound, closer to an "o", German has a complete "a" sound. But not in all parts of Germany, for example in Eastern Germany it seems like the sound would be closer to the Danish - er sound
@@MicsLanguages I see. Since I'm from Eastern Germany myself, I understand what you mean! Mange tak!
@@TigranAbgarjan Ah, then you know what I'm talking about! I just had a look at some videos you uploaded. You are a real musical all-rounder, amazing to see! I wish I had learned to play instruments when I was younger
@@MicsLanguages Thank you very much for your kind words! It is never too late to learn an instrument, though! You could give it a try! :)
@@TigranAbgarjan You're right, it is ne er too late. I have actually tried to learn a bit in the last years. Pandeiro (Brazilian percussion instrument) and a little bit of African drum. I need to get back to it, as it has definitely "opened me up" somehow. But man, it would have been so much easier if I had learned it when I was younger!!
Lot of thanks 💖 teacher.sir I am a new learner.plase help me to know proper sounds of all Danish alphabet.lot of regards.
As someone from Skåne now learning danish, who in my swedish dialect uses the same danish r's (but pronounced more often) I could not hold back laughter when realizing how much you danes f*d up my swedish 🤣
(for those who didn't know, Skåne was danish until a couple of hundred years ago, making my dialect a vaguely danish sounding but still completely swedish dialect)
Yeah, I know that many "real" Swedes make fun of the Skåne accent. But at least it's easier for you to learn Danish this way :)
It's like you're trying to speak Swedish but you've been hit with a frying pan on the head 10 times and also you are a native French speaker
Jeg kan godt lide din skjorte. Skrivningen af hovedstads navn er cool.
Tak! Jeg kan også godt lide den :)
Mic, It seems to me that the end-r sound is very similar to the sound of å in words like båt, hånd, råt. Is that right?
Yeah, that's totally correct. If you look at the phonetic transcription at ordnet.dk/ddo, the two are shown as the same sound indeed.
@@MicsLanguages Thank you very much.
Tusind tak, hvad med udtalen af R i fx 3,30,60.. og fx pRoblemer ?
Der er en "part 2" med det R, som du taler om :)
I'm beginning to think that Danish is far more difficult than Chinese pinyin 😂...
While I've never studied Chinese, I must say that Danish is easy! It's all about the having the right mindset and perseverance. It can probably take longer than some other languages to master, though :/
這個語言比中文的拼音太難了啊。。就死了
Hello Giddy yeah
Cannot agree more
Yes, Chinese is easier.
Dette har hjælpet mig meget. Tak! For a good laugh, play 7:33-7:35 at 0.25x speed. 😂😂
Scary to look at that in slow motion :/ Jeg er glad for, at videoen har hjulpet dig (hjulpet med u)
Mic's Languages Oops! Time to hit the flashcards again! I’ve made my own sets on Quizlet. present/preterite/past participle
@@aegrant100 Way to go!
Wow, that was a good video. Do you do private tutoring? I'm not a beginner, though. I want to go up for the Studieprøve i dansk i 2022.
Hi! Yes I do private tutoring. You can contact me via my website micslanguages.com
Studieprøven is tough, but I hope you can reach the level you aim for!
@@MicsLanguages Super. I know it's tough. Jeg har et kopi af prøven fra i sommers. I just sent you a message via your website.
Hej Mic, Thank you for good video with clear explanation. I hope my teacher can do the teaching as good as you. In your video, you mentioned that there is no connected speech in Danish, ex: probleme"r i" den.... But when I listened CD ( book: Dansk udtale, writer: Lisbet Thorborg), there are connected speech, ex: Jeg kør"te i" byen. Can you provide opinion? Thank you. :)
Hej Lulu, thanks for your comment!
I didn't mean that there is no connected speech in Danish, I meant that the R is not assimilated into the next word like in English. Sorry for not making clear that I was referring only to the R! Lisbet Thorborg has some amazing resources, I have used her pronunciation books dansk udtale for begyndere & dansk udtale i 49 tekster a lot in my teaching 🙂
Oh, and also På vej til dansk. That's by far the book I've used the most through the years
@@MicsLanguages Yes, I am using that book, too. And it is very good.(Unfortunately, the dictionary published by same writer, which is bad.😞) Any other books or website you recommend? Thank you. 😉
Oh, I didn't know there was a dictionary by Lisbet Thorborg 🤔
What else do I recommend?
Well, the next book after På vej til dansk is Videre mod dansk, same author. Same model, very good as well.
Then the next after that in level of difficulty is Så kan du lære det, by Frank Sebastian Hansen & Einar Helleland. This is only a few years old, but really outstanding! Maybe even better than the Thorborg books.
Apart from that... 🤔...well, Dr.dk/tv for watching Danish TV, lots of old programs, most of it with good subtitles.
DR Ligetil is also a good thing. It has written news in easier Danish than normal news.
Basby.dk has a lot of great grammar exercises and also some pronunciation stuff.
That was it. Hope it helps!
@@MicsLanguages
Thank you for helpful reply. :) :) :)
1. I checked that dictionary(Dansk-engelsk ordbog for udlændinge, writer: LB, KGJ, WGJ) You are right, it is not written by Lisbet. It is good with Lydskiftsystemet Dania, but the sentences translation are very strange. My teacher suggested to use it for check vocabularies of Lydskiftsystemet Dania in Lisbet's books only. Please let me know if there is any other good dictionary you recommend. :)
2. About books from Lisbet, how do you think the "Breve 1 & 2"?
Is it useful? I am considering to study this book or not.
3. I already finished the books (På vey til Dansk and Videre mod dansk). So I am considering of which book for DU 3.3. As your recommendation of Så kan du lære det, I think Midtvejstil til Dansk (by Lisbeth) are the same level as DU 3.3. Can you tell what difference between them? Are they similar?
4. For DU 3.4 and higher lever, can you suggest some good books?
Thank you. :) :) :)
Hvordan ordner du de runde bagtungevokaler? Min chilenske elev har ingen problemer med fortungevokalerne, da hun kan fransk. Men et ord måske har hun store problemer med at sige.
Altså hun har jo allerede to runde bagtungevokaler i i sit modersmål: o og u.
Forskellen mellem o og å er svær, selv for tyskere som ellers har alle de andre runde bagtungevokaler.
Prøv at føle hvad du selv gør når du går fra o til å. Din tunge kommer sandsynligvis længere ned, og læberne åbner sig også en lille smule mere. Hos dig er forskellen nok minimal, da du er modersmålstalende og kan slippe afsted med små forandringer i munden.
Men du kan bede hende om at overdrive bevægelserne, i det mindste i starten. Å bliver også skabt lidt længere nede i halsen, men det er svært at forholde sig til, da det ikke er synligt.
Håber det hjælper :)
I have a lot of trouble with the letter G like with my Mom's cousin Dagmar. In Canada they say 'dag-mar' [hard g like in a paper bag] not 'dow-mar' Or in the name Mogens or the word bog [book] People always said my Mom's name Rigmor as rig-more [hard g] When is the "G" soft, hard or silent? Is there a rule. Many of my ancestors came from a farm/estate? called Gamle Rybjerggaard...in Rybjerg Sogn i Viborg Amt. is it pronounced roo-beh-gore?
That no you for the new video
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Rasmusdatter is coming!
O_o And I thought German vocalic Rs were silly. Danish has a severe case of that bug plus French's silent letters. Don't get me wrong, I love Danish. I have just realised it will take longer to master.
So you don't roll it like in Swedish? Is there a Danish dialect where they do?
Nope. But I'm pretty sure there are some (few) Swedish dialects where they don't roll the r
They used to at some point in history. In (Low) German and Dutch dialects, this rolled (Swedish) R used to be omnipresent. I think the Danes dropped it earlier.
@@MicsLanguages Southern Swedish dialects and accents use a pronunciation similar to Danish. Regions like Skåne and Blekinge have a history with Denmark after all.
People from Massachusetts USA would be great at producing this sound. Californians not so much :(( Our 'Rs' are too heavy. (jealous) still trying though
Danish R!
Yeah, Xiaoyu :) I hope this helps you.
Do you have trouble with this part of the R, or is it more the R in the beginning of a word?
What do you think of my idea: To start learning Danish, just learn the vowel sounds. Perhaps this is is a reasonable start, perhaps not, because they are not independent of the consonants.
Did anybody else saw that fly at 0:50 ?
I think this is the most dificult R in the languages
Difficult for some, easy for others. For us Danes, the rolled R from romance and Slavic languages (and many others languages too) is super difficult, but the Danish R is the easiest in the world 😁
KÖBENHAUN is printed on your T-shirt
Ja, det er rigtigt. Der står København på min T-shirt.
I would like to hire you as a private teacher
I think Danish is the most vowel-based language in the world.
That is possible 🙂
I just can’t do it 😭
After enough training, I'm sure you can! 😉
Seems similar to german at some points
Yeah, the R is kind of the same in Danish and German
The end-R is not unlike how the Aussies pronounce it in English words. Not identical, but in the wheelhouse. Similar also to Brits, or Americans from many East Coast states.
You're totally right!
Like in modern German
Yeah! I would say there is a slight difference though. I wrote it in my first answer to Tigran Abgarjan here under this video. Maybe you want to read what I wrote and see if you agree.
I took French so I always want to pronounce every R very guttural
That gives you a good edge over other Danish learners.
If you teach this to a German speaker, it's not too difficult. Just leave 30% of the consonants away that are still pronounced in German. What I wonder is, how do you teach it to your children to add even more silent letters in writing than in English?
Yeah, I would suppose that Danish children have more difficulties learning to write in their language than fx Spanish speaking children. It would be interesting to see this topic discussed in a scientific study or something. I don't know of any though.
i only managed to pronounce R when i have a chunk of meat in my mouth 🤣🤣🤣
As a Dane, I like this. He speaks 🇬🇧, 🇩🇰, 🇩🇪, and 🇧🇷 because it is like (@gus1thego).
Tusind tak! Awesome video! Thanks for explaining how to make the sounds, especially how to make the sounds our mouths 👍
I just had a quick look at your channel and watching your video on water, I must say it's really pleasant to watch. You are talented. It's a pity you don't make videos any more.
Tusind tak! Thank you for your nice words. I’ve always planned on making more videos, I just haven’t gotten around to it. I’ll try and make another one again sometime soon. I can see you also instruct how to form the sounds with your mouth, I incorporated that in my video as well, I think it’s very important. Your videos are excellent at teaching, especially at teaching Dansk pronunciation. Keep up the wonderful work! 👍
@@annateacheraustralia9868 I know how it is. I also want to make videos, but it's a lot of work and sometimes I end up not producing anything for half a year or so.
Let me know if you get a round to making new videos. Why are you watching a video about Danish by the way?
@@MicsLanguages Yes, it’s a lot of work isn’t it. I have a lot of video ideas but it took me a long time to make my first. But after making it, I felt very happy that it’s there, it’s also helpful for my students. What you’ve put out there with Danish pronunciation is extremely helpful for all who are learning Danish.
Tusind tak, thanks for the encouragement, sure I’ll let you know when I made another video. You too, please make more videos 👍.
I can speak Swedish to an extent, I’d like to learn dansk, I feel the grammar and vocabulary is similar, the biggest difference is the pronunciation. Your videos have been very helpful with that. Like you I’m also very passionate about pronunciation 👍
Perfect. We think similarly. About the videos, they still take a long time for me, one of the issues is perfectionism. Maybe you have the same "problem"?! 😉
Good luck with Danish! Feel free to reach out to me if you have any specific difficulties!