Earlier in the episode, Todd acted as if he would keep Teyla as a figure head for his alliance far longer than they previously agreed upon. This battle, considered unnecessary by Todd and his Wraith, was Teyla declaring to Todd that she would not be a quite puppet, and if he tried to use her that way she would use her superior position to be as destructive as possible for his Alliance.
I'm sure he didn't want to use her like that since he's not like the rest of his kind and mostly keeps ture to his promises hence why Todd the only wraith you can trust Todd the guide😏
In the official Legacy continuation novel The Lost, when McKay is a Wraith, he overhears some other Wraith discussing this battle. Apparently Teyla's actions became legendary amongst the Wraith.
Sadly no. The beam weapons never appeared in those books either though. But Teyla is a badass in the Legacy series. In the story there, Todd's training of Teyla during this episode has given her a greater range of power since she now knows how to properly use her abilities and no longer fears them. Its stated that she possesses the telepathic strength of a Wraith Queen now. Amongst her new abilities is communicating with the Wraith telepathically without having to mind-link with them though that's just telepathic talking basically, commanding lesser Wraith since her mind's power is equivalent to a Queen which they automatically respond to and even killing Wraith through mentally shutting down their body functions. The Queens possess that ability and Teyla only uses it twice, the second time to kill a Wraith Queen after a telepathic duel, the Queen being the main enemy of the book series.
Interesting. I still think that Jumpers with Asgard weapons would be badass. How about F-302s? Did those ever receive upgraded weapons? Autocannons and missiles seem a bit archaic.
Can't remember, sorry. I know they did well in the final battle with the Wraith though which featured the George Hammond (the main ship of the books though the Daedalus appears and fights in the final battle of the 3rd book alongside the Hammond), a Lantean cruiser operated by the Genii, a small Wraith fleet led by Todd and Atlantis itself, flown by Sheppard primarily and at other times Beckett and Jack O'Neill who commands the battle after coming to help with SG-1. They win when a few boarding parties enter Queen Death's (the main enemy) hive ship with one led by Laura Cadman and Ladon Radim and another by Teyla who meets up with a young but friendly Queen who led her own boarding party. After Teyla kills Queen Death, the surviving Wraith (and there's not many ships who survived the battle) surrender to Todd's daughter Queen Alabaster who had been missing for nearly 20 years but was found by accident and rescued by Sheppard's team. The books don't have them really win the war so much as establish a peace: Todd and Keller are able to create a retrovirus that allows the Wraith to feed on humans without harming them. Both Keller and Zelenka were fed on (willingly) after taking it and were unaged. After the end of Queen Death, a deal is made where the Wraith give the humans half of the Pegasus Galaxy that they won't bother at all while they can use the retrovirus when dealing with the other half.
In the Legacy continuation series, Teyla's powers are greatly enhanced as a result of her training with Todd over the course of this episode. She is capable of so much more due to Todd training her after this. In the books, her abilities are now in actuality equivalent to those of a Wraith Queen. She also briefly resumes her disguise as Todd's queen Queen Steelflower.
and her and John are finally banging ..........WarGrowlmon18 where are the other 12 books im only aware of 8 books all of which take place after season 5
Same series. Those 8 books are like books 16 to 23 or something like that. More I think. Didn't you ever look at the numbers on the side??? Those eight books are the Legacy series. Book 3 of that series is #18 in the series overall.
I always loved this battle!!! When I first saw it, I thought the Puddle Jumper drones destroyed the hive ship but it just damaged it enough to give Teyla's hive the upper hand.
Yeah need a lot more drones to blow up a ship, the swarm of drones from the Orion took a good amount of time to destroy it, these drones just simply weakened the external armor and damaged internal systems enough that the plasma shots from Teyla's ship were able to do much more damage and end the fight
Yeah they were close range, half dozen drones, strategically targeted to a weak spot, not going to take out a hive, but as it was already damaged and being fired on, it was enough to give the other hive the edge
@@TheValentineEnemy I don't really know how to properly measure it but it would make sense that the wraith were more capable considering they directly fought the ancients and learned while the goa'uld were used to dominating without challenge.
I know jumpers don't have enough drones to destroy a hive ship by themselves, but scenes like this make you think a squad of them could be quite useful to carry around inside the Daedalus. You could even keep them in the bay and just use them to fire drone weapons out of the Daedalus. Before they got the plasma beams, would certainly have been more useful than those railguns.
when your 14 and your father has the whole stargate atlantis series *woooooooooooooooooo!!!* i swear this is the best series ever also isnt tayla like the moodyist queen ever lol
"What for?" "I do not know! I'm not on the ship. But if I had to guess I'd say they've gone to cull." Had to guess? What? Isn't your species telepathic? Have the writers forgot that "little" detail about Wraith society?
Nope. In The Gift (s0118) Teyla had no trouble connecting to the Wraith from the fleet while in hyperspace. Nowhere in the series is ever explained that human-Wraith hybrids being stronger than pureblood Wraith. Hell, in Misbegotten (s302) the surviving Wraith gather and use their collective telepathy to contact another Hiveship to rescue them. The dumbest moment however was in First Contact (s5e10) when Todd receives an urgent message from his hive, which was just across the screen via an earpiece radio. Why not just use your already existing telepathy for that, especially since it's urgent. It's pretty clear that later in the show the writers kind of forgot the Wraith still have telepathy, they didn't even bother to give a half-arsed explanation to why it stopped being relevant (like say, limited food supply means they can't use their telepathy fully, or the civil war causes mistrust, so they started severing their connection among themselves).
Has the same vibe as Jack O'Neill telling Woolsey "I've been sitting here next to you the whole time. Why'd you think I know any more about what's going on?"
@@sargon6000 Ford said that the Wraith aren't able to communicate between stars, that they had to be in the same solar system while talking to McKay in the Lost Boys Part 1
@@neostar7206 I always got the feeling the Lanteans never took the wraith seriously right up untill it was too late and at some point the wraith managed to get a zpm which helped them crank out ship after ship after ship.
Wait, it only takes 6 drones to kill an entire hiveship? How did the ancient's lose to these guys? I'm sure they would've had more than enough drones to deal with their "overwhelming numbers."
WHY DID THE COMET CHANNEL DISAPPEAR FROM DISH NETWORK!!! I LOVED THAT CHANNEL!!!! but did the enemy wraith darts just switch sides to the victorious hive?
Its doubtful Wraith ships have the ability to fire with that kind of precision, probably due to their biological nature. A human with a P90 in his hands is also limited in accuracy by that his motor functions allow, a biological ship is probably no different, muscles just arent very accurate tools compared to electronic actuators.
Здравствуйте Дорогой Todd я к Вам как к Старшему Брату,нужно просмотреть на лет 300 назад,плюс минус лет сто, нужно узнать в те времена и подключить N.A.S.A настоящих,что за прогресс там происходит? И подключить Звёзд ные системы безопасности.
Hello Todd, распоряжение только на Вас Todd, а эти души на контакт пойдут? Это кого эгнора,Тоdd не спеши,нужно узнать историю изначально. Спасибо Дорогой.
Здравствуйте дорогой друг, мне не нравятся эти перестрелки,космические войны, много жертв,очень много технических корабле разбито.жаль очень жаль.Вас я приветствую ,а видео не могу поддержать пальцем вверх,лучше ничего не поставлю.
Oh how much I hate this. They fire 6 of those drones and the Hiveship that apparently withstood the nonstop salvo of the queens ship blows up in a blink of an eye. No wonder I prefer SGU. Though I really like the Wraith. A shame they only exist to be the next Goauld.
Drones doesn't immediately explodes when touch something if you look close you can see the drones does a second run, only after their energy is low they explode.
@Patrick Cossack Calm down,. It's just a tv show, simply an illusion and no one dies. People are allowed to like whichever programs they like and without receiving childish insults.
Doesn't explode immediately, it's a severely weakened hive that's hit with half a dozen drones at close range, likely targeted at vulnerable systems, that was enough to turn the battle for the other hive to finish them off
'I do not know, I'm not on the ship', said in exactly the same tone I use when my mum asks me whats going on in a film we are both watching
LOL. That came up with a stand up comic ages ago; same question and his sarcastic answer was, "What? Did I get here before you?"
@@charlieross-BRM To be fair sometimes you miss something explained in the movie earlier for whatever reason
"This would be the perfect situation for this thing we can't do, but it'd be really cool if we could" Damnit McKay
Earlier in the episode, Todd acted as if he would keep Teyla as a figure head for his alliance far longer than they previously agreed upon. This battle, considered unnecessary by Todd and his Wraith, was Teyla declaring to Todd that she would not be a quite puppet, and if he tried to use her that way she would use her superior position to be as destructive as possible for his Alliance.
I'm sure he didn't want to use her like that since he's not like the rest of his kind and mostly keeps ture to his promises hence why Todd the only wraith you can trust Todd the guide😏
In the official Legacy continuation novel The Lost, when McKay is a Wraith, he overhears some other Wraith discussing this battle. Apparently Teyla's actions became legendary amongst the Wraith.
Did they ever put beam weapons on the Jumper though?
Sadly no. The beam weapons never appeared in those books either though. But Teyla is a badass in the Legacy series. In the story there, Todd's training of Teyla during this episode has given her a greater range of power since she now knows how to properly use her abilities and no longer fears them. Its stated that she possesses the telepathic strength of a Wraith Queen now. Amongst her new abilities is communicating with the Wraith telepathically without having to mind-link with them though that's just telepathic talking basically, commanding lesser Wraith since her mind's power is equivalent to a Queen which they automatically respond to and even killing Wraith through mentally shutting down their body functions. The Queens possess that ability and Teyla only uses it twice, the second time to kill a Wraith Queen after a telepathic duel, the Queen being the main enemy of the book series.
Interesting. I still think that Jumpers with Asgard weapons would be badass. How about F-302s? Did those ever receive upgraded weapons? Autocannons and missiles seem a bit archaic.
Can't remember, sorry. I know they did well in the final battle with the Wraith though which featured the George Hammond (the main ship of the books though the Daedalus appears and fights in the final battle of the 3rd book alongside the Hammond), a Lantean cruiser operated by the Genii, a small Wraith fleet led by Todd and Atlantis itself, flown by Sheppard primarily and at other times Beckett and Jack O'Neill who commands the battle after coming to help with SG-1. They win when a few boarding parties enter Queen Death's (the main enemy) hive ship with one led by Laura Cadman and Ladon Radim and another by Teyla who meets up with a young but friendly Queen who led her own boarding party. After Teyla kills Queen Death, the surviving Wraith (and there's not many ships who survived the battle) surrender to Todd's daughter Queen Alabaster who had been missing for nearly 20 years but was found by accident and rescued by Sheppard's team. The books don't have them really win the war so much as establish a peace: Todd and Keller are able to create a retrovirus that allows the Wraith to feed on humans without harming them. Both Keller and Zelenka were fed on (willingly) after taking it and were unaged. After the end of Queen Death, a deal is made where the Wraith give the humans half of the Pegasus Galaxy that they won't bother at all while they can use the retrovirus when dealing with the other half.
That book series sound very non canonical
Every time i hear the wraith cannons fire i feel happy.
Same lol
With that size of energy blast it like to throw energy blast in a size of school bus to enemy's ship💕
Fucking ear candy
Todd: "I've worked for some sick ass queens but...damn lady."
I'll leave your likes at 69 but this is when Todd realises that Teyla is absolutely ruthless
Shepherd's "Ughhh" after McKay's 'it'd be great to have that thing we don't have' is the funniest thing I've ever heard on Atlantis. 3:20
there's a good chance somebodies trying to hack your website right now you gotta be sure your covered with nord vpn🤣🤣🤣
Teyla radiated Wraith Queen hotness, a dangerous combination of "don't screw with me" and "if you do, I'll make you my slave and like it."
In the Legacy continuation series, Teyla's powers are greatly enhanced as a result of her training with Todd over the course of this episode. She is capable of so much more due to Todd training her after this. In the books, her abilities are now in actuality equivalent to those of a Wraith Queen. She also briefly resumes her disguise as Todd's queen Queen Steelflower.
WarGrowlmon18 there are books??!!
Something like 20 for Atlantis alone. More for SG1.
and her and John are finally banging ..........WarGrowlmon18 where are the other 12 books im only aware of 8 books all of which take place after season 5
Same series. Those 8 books are like books 16 to 23 or something like that. More I think. Didn't you ever look at the numbers on the side??? Those eight books are the Legacy series. Book 3 of that series is #18 in the series overall.
And where does one find these books?
Some of the Wraiths voices are so alluring 😍
Right!
"Oh no we're not even close.." Ahh Rodney!
I always loved this battle!!! When I first saw it, I thought the Puddle Jumper drones destroyed the hive ship but it just damaged it enough to give Teyla's hive the upper hand.
Yeah need a lot more drones to blow up a ship, the swarm of drones from the Orion took a good amount of time to destroy it, these drones just simply weakened the external armor and damaged internal systems enough that the plasma shots from Teyla's ship were able to do much more damage and end the fight
Ben Wilson same goes for goauld ships too
Yeah they were close range, half dozen drones, strategically targeted to a weak spot, not going to take out a hive, but as it was already damaged and being fired on, it was enough to give the other hive the edge
@@TheValentineEnemy I don't really know how to properly measure it but it would make sense that the wraith were more capable considering they directly fought the ancients and learned while the goa'uld were used to dominating without challenge.
@@Brakiros these a particles shots, not plasma wraith technology has been mostly develop by the asgard
The annoyance of the wraith dude on the ship with Sheppard and crew was funny!
Darn it! I miss Todd and the other wraith, wonderfully creepy yet fascinating antagonists and "allies". So many plot bunnies! XD
Teylas getting the wraith killed is hilarious🤣🤣🤣
Imagine how powerful Todd's alliance would become if they would took Atlantis's mutagen vaccine and free themselves from feeding on people.
I know jumpers don't have enough drones to destroy a hive ship by themselves, but scenes like this make you think a squad of them could be quite useful to carry around inside the Daedalus. You could even keep them in the bay and just use them to fire drone weapons out of the Daedalus. Before they got the plasma beams, would certainly have been more useful than those railguns.
😂😂 Kenny is so over Sheppard’s team in this!! He’s so annoyed I can’t with his facial expressions!! He just can’t hide it!!
Would like nothing more than to feed on them but knows Todd would kill him 😂😂😂
Wraith have such comforting voices
when your 14 and your father has the whole stargate atlantis series *woooooooooooooooooo!!!* i swear this is the best series ever
also isnt tayla like the moodyist queen ever lol
Atlantis had the best space battles of any show.
Second best to Battlestar Galactica
0:14 "Well, yeah, but there's showing no weakness, and then there's _showing no weakness,_ y'know?"
Teyla hot still in wraith disguise
you pervert :P
I think the Galaxy can be glad that Teyla's shapeshift into a Queen was only temporary.
Tyela makes one hell of a queen
A young Jason Mamoa before he got super famous.
The weapons sound like asteroids deluxe
"What for?"
"I do not know! I'm not on the ship. But if I had to guess I'd say they've gone to cull."
Had to guess? What? Isn't your species telepathic?
Have the writers forgot that "little" detail about Wraith society?
He just say he couldn't because wasn't on the the same ship as the rest.
So their psychic link has a distance limit.
Nope. In The Gift (s0118) Teyla had no trouble connecting to the Wraith from the fleet while in hyperspace. Nowhere in the series is ever explained that human-Wraith hybrids being stronger than pureblood Wraith. Hell, in Misbegotten (s302) the surviving Wraith gather and use their collective telepathy to contact another Hiveship to rescue them. The dumbest moment however was in First Contact (s5e10) when Todd receives an urgent message from his hive, which was just across the screen via an earpiece radio. Why not just use your already existing telepathy for that, especially since it's urgent.
It's pretty clear that later in the show the writers kind of forgot the Wraith still have telepathy, they didn't even bother to give a half-arsed explanation to why it stopped being relevant (like say, limited food supply means they can't use their telepathy fully, or the civil war causes mistrust, so they started severing their connection among themselves).
Has the same vibe as Jack O'Neill telling Woolsey "I've been sitting here next to you the whole time. Why'd you think I know any more about what's going on?"
@@sargon6000 Could be that Queens, or potential Queens, have slightly greater range then most other Wraith.
@@sargon6000 Ford said that the Wraith aren't able to communicate between stars, that they had to be in the same solar system while talking to McKay in the Lost Boys Part 1
How did the alterans lose the war when drones are this OP? Puddle jumpers are basically Uboats holy cow
This is addressed in the show at some point. The ancients could win every battle but the Wraith never ran out of ships or people to throw at them.
@@neostar7206 I always got the feeling the Lanteans never took the wraith seriously right up untill it was too late and at some point the wraith managed to get a zpm which helped them crank out ship after ship after ship.
Her voice sounds like Kerrigan in starcraft
Wait, it only takes 6 drones to kill an entire hiveship? How did the ancient's lose to these guys? I'm sure they would've had more than enough drones to deal with their "overwhelming numbers."
@nerox5723 Ah, so they were softened up. Works for me.
2:17 is it just me, or is this guy a spitting image of Kryten from Red Dwarf?
He is wraith Kryten.
He probably feeds through his groinal socket.
Never Question her tactics
WHY DID THE COMET CHANNEL DISAPPEAR FROM DISH NETWORK!!!
I LOVED THAT CHANNEL!!!!
but did the enemy wraith darts just switch sides to the victorious hive?
Yeah, as Todd had said earlier in the episode they don't want to be without a queen and that is how power changes hands
She should have targeted the enemy dart bays first.
Its doubtful Wraith ships have the ability to fire with that kind of precision, probably due to their biological nature. A human with a P90 in his hands is also limited in accuracy by that his motor functions allow, a biological ship is probably no different, muscles just arent very accurate tools compared to electronic actuators.
Pew pew pew
The mosquito was inspiration for the Darts I assume.
Good luck Profesor
Здравствуйте Дорогой Todd я к Вам как к Старшему Брату,нужно просмотреть на лет 300 назад,плюс минус лет сто, нужно узнать в те времена и подключить N.A.S.A настоящих,что за прогресс там происходит? И подключить Звёзд ные системы безопасности.
Hello Todd, распоряжение только на Вас Todd, а эти души на контакт пойдут? Это кого эгнора,Тоdd не спеши,нужно узнать историю изначально. Спасибо Дорогой.
Is that rudra?
Pesawat Amazing 🤔
smash next question
oh aquaman
there is no sound in space
Lol true but still
But there is electromagnetic waves, pulses, and radiation. Maybe that is what we are "hearing".
Or maybe everything we know about vacuum’s and space is wrong and that’s why we don’t have force fields and ZPMs
@@tarnyowl6068 Unlikely. We have extensive experience and knowledge of space and vacuums.
@@SoranoGuardias I see a documentary about zero point modules and Hyperdrive Technology who proves you wrong, call Stargate tou should watch.
Здравствуйте дорогой друг, мне не нравятся эти перестрелки,космические войны, много жертв,очень много технических корабле разбито.жаль очень жаль.Вас я приветствую ,а видео не могу поддержать пальцем вверх,лучше ничего не поставлю.
HMMM
Oh how much I hate this. They fire 6 of those drones and the Hiveship that apparently withstood the nonstop salvo of the queens ship blows up in a blink of an eye. No wonder I prefer SGU.
Though I really like the Wraith. A shame they only exist to be the next Goauld.
Uh huh... because fresh and original story and characters are dumb and only rehashed SG1 story premises and more filler episodes are quality content
Drones doesn't immediately explodes when touch something if you look close you can see the drones does a second run, only after their energy is low they explode.
@Patrick Cossack
Calm down,. It's just a tv show, simply an illusion and no one dies. People are allowed to like whichever programs they like and without receiving childish insults.
@Nathan Taffijn
Perfectly calm.
Doesn't explode immediately, it's a severely weakened hive that's hit with half a dozen drones at close range, likely targeted at vulnerable systems, that was enough to turn the battle for the other hive to finish them off
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They shouldn't have taken Aquaman away from the water.