The BEST Mod in DCS? | OH-6 "Loach"

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024

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  • @CommandT
    @CommandT  4 місяці тому

    Watch my video on flying helicopters with a Force Feedback Joystick: ua-cam.com/video/jCVv6S5OrWI/v-deo.html

  • @chipwillis
    @chipwillis 3 місяці тому +3

    I kinda blew this thing off at first but after seeing your video I decided to give it a shot. Wow. This thing is fun!

  • @rays_n
    @rays_n 3 місяці тому +2

    I just got DCS recently and I didn’t wanna swing on a helicopter yet and the trials are intimidating as I don’t really have enough time in two weeks to learn the module, but man as an intro to Helicopters in dcs this is perfection. Learning curve was tough but I’m taking off a lot better now. A lot of left pedal input is key! Thanks for the introduction!

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  3 місяці тому

      Great to hear! And yep it’s super simple to fly the OH-6 in terms of systems!

  • @dang6369
    @dang6369 4 місяці тому +5

    I can't believe this mod is totally free with the liveries and assets pack. Very well programmed model.

  • @hueyfoo
    @hueyfoo 4 місяці тому +7

    I thoroughly enjoy flying this cute little killer egg. My least favorite part is the landing and the complaints about the skids friction are right on.

  • @shitpost4204
    @shitpost4204 4 місяці тому +6

    For the ground effect, from my understanding of what my pilots have told me, ground effect changes based in rotor disk size/diameter. So with the super small diameter of the loach disk, you'll get a super low area of ground effect.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +1

      Interesting!

    • @franciscgedeon9237
      @franciscgedeon9237 4 місяці тому +1

      the diameter of the rotor influences the HEIGHT at witch the ground effect becomes felt, we ballpark half the rotor diameter. getting lower increases the effect

  • @Tuuvas
    @Tuuvas 4 місяці тому +8

    Agreed! Fantastic mod! The flight model has been simultaneously the most challenging and most fun helicopter I've ever flown in DCS. Rotorhead-parkour'ing through Beirut and Aleppo have been some of my favorite things to do.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      Rotorhead-parkour. Haha. Love it! Yep I need to do some of that myself!!

  • @isaacswinson5308
    @isaacswinson5308 3 місяці тому +3

    I like the fee UH-60L Black Hawk a little better. Still, thanks to whoever created these free mods for us because I love and enjoy them. If they could get the door gunners working it certainly would be the best of them all!

  • @scifergaming
    @scifergaming 4 місяці тому +12

    This mod is still at a very early stage. The tail rotor has a very slow response, the radio is super limited, the ADF only works with ME radio beacon units. And I don't know why they put two intercoms on the centre pedestal.
    The A4-E-C is the most developed mod of all. But the OH-6A is definitely my favourite!

    • @tobib2969
      @tobib2969 4 місяці тому +1

      That's easy to answer. Why do you expect faster response to the tail rotor?
      Radio is limited because it is not supported for mods by ED. Same for ADF. No Chance without SDK.
      2 Intercoms because this is how the aircraft build.

    • @iou0
      @iou0 Місяць тому

      goshawk mod pretty good too.

    • @scifergaming
      @scifergaming Місяць тому

      @@iou0 It doesn't even carry real weaponry.

  • @gregpruitt1647
    @gregpruitt1647 3 місяці тому +1

    I love this thing. It is amazing flying in VR.

  • @ripstop5122
    @ripstop5122 16 днів тому

    For those who haven’t read it yet, the book “Low level hell” is a must for all those that love this aircraft

  • @ComfortsSpecter
    @ComfortsSpecter 4 місяці тому +1

    Such a Beautiful little Loach
    Cute Danger Egg
    Beautiful modeling
    Amazingly Good gameplay

  • @XCougar85X
    @XCougar85X 4 місяці тому +1

    That was some very enjoyable flying to watch.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      Glad to hear! 😃

  • @jcommtube
    @jcommtube 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for a Great Vid and revealing this "jewel" :-) I will surely give it a try!

  • @monostripezebras
    @monostripezebras 4 місяці тому +1

    8ball is just a gem!

  • @plantsofwar8834
    @plantsofwar8834 4 місяці тому +5

    Agreed on the virtual pilot body, must have for me, hope they put one in!

  • @Duckfisher0222
    @Duckfisher0222 4 місяці тому +2

    Interesting! Thanks :)

  • @suecobandito8954
    @suecobandito8954 4 місяці тому +3

    Yup, hot mod. Love it.

  • @steveh2048
    @steveh2048 4 місяці тому +2

    Something to keep in mind about the FM, it is based on the OH-6A which had the weaker engine. Comments about the collective not being as responsive, from what I have read in the history of the OH-6, was not as responsive in the 4 blade rotor head as it was in the 5 blade OH-6C model and later. Additionally the tail rotor was altered in later models as well.

  • @tmting4942
    @tmting4942 4 місяці тому +4

    Oh.. boy‼️ now, u just have to make a vid about the AH-1 Cobra mod, to form up the famous "hunter/killer" team

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +1

      Indeed!

    • @hueyfoo
      @hueyfoo 4 місяці тому +1

      @@tmting4942 a pink team as they called it.

  • @danielgrafflin9689
    @danielgrafflin9689 3 місяці тому

    Seems to me the hardest thing with the OH-6 is hovering. 80% of time I wind up in an uncontrolled roll and crash. I know IRL these are a little squirrely and responsive. fun though once I get some airspeed up. My landings suck but work in progress. I wonder if coders didn't overdo VRS.

  • @swagdrifter222
    @swagdrifter222 4 місяці тому

    thank you so much!

  • @nigelmorris4769
    @nigelmorris4769 4 місяці тому

    I'll wait till the free cobra comes out

  • @NicollasAlexandre
    @NicollasAlexandre 4 місяці тому

    16:59 your landing caused those jeeps to collide

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      Haha, only just noticed that! 😅

  • @RattlerSSBN
    @RattlerSSBN 4 місяці тому

    Speaking of Collective...what input device are you using for it? I only have a Warthog Throttle and wonder whether that will do the trick.

    • @orlok1960
      @orlok1960 4 місяці тому

      I use a virpil throttle for all my heli flying. no problems at all. I *almost* bought a dedicated collective but tbh my throttle has more buttons/axis available.

    • @RattlerSSBN
      @RattlerSSBN 4 місяці тому +1

      @@orlok1960 Thanks, I'll stick with the Warthog throttle for now and use my Winwing Orion2 stick (without springs & cams) as cyclic.

  • @pjslon9219
    @pjslon9219 4 місяці тому

    DCS Huey struts/skis DO cushion on landing ;)

  • @Adalla
    @Adalla 4 місяці тому

    Not sure if they updated the flight model recently, but when I tried it last the yaw-axis dynamics of this heli were just no pleasant to deal with, which is why I prefer for example the OH-58 in that regard.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +1

      They updated that recently. I also hated the yaw before. It’s fine now!

  • @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439
    @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 3 місяці тому

    How is this different from the AH-6J Little Bird Mod?

  • @aaronwhite1786
    @aaronwhite1786 4 місяці тому

    My wallet cries out every time a new video of yours drops and I start googling "Force Feedback bases" all over again as I look to add one to my collection and hope it gets here before my fiancé realizes what's happened and dumps my body in the woods.
    It would also be cool to see this turn into a more modernized Little Bird

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  3 місяці тому

      Yeah I hope we get more affordable FFB sticks soon and totally agree - MH-6 would be awesome 👌

  • @Blackcloud_Garage
    @Blackcloud_Garage 4 місяці тому +2

    Definitely needs the crew chief armed with an M-60 and smoke grenades in the right rear, behind the pilot.

    • @shitpost4204
      @shitpost4204 4 місяці тому

      I love flying it with the gunner, I need more guns lol

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      That would be cool!

  • @franciscgedeon9237
    @franciscgedeon9237 4 місяці тому +1

    I messaged the developers on the ED forum, the problem with the skids is that they have almost zero friction with the ground. as soon as you pull any collective, it starts skidding sideways on any terrain. you can see how long it takes to stop when you do the run-on landing, unless you dump collective. I feel like the friction value changes too abruptly with the input of power, if that makes sense, as in if you add any small amount of collective, it starts skidding. I was trying to do a dynamic roll-over, almost impossible.
    also there is no helicopter in the world with zero ground effect, there is no such thing.
    is this the ver1.2 of the mod you are showing?

    • @shitpost4204
      @shitpost4204 4 місяці тому +1

      The OH-6A devs said they're working on friction of the skids currently

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      I didn’t say zero ground effect. I said the loach is had less than other helis in DCS. Tobi said 7%
      And yeah regarding the skidding it’s an issue.
      I’m using 1.3

    • @franciscgedeon9237
      @franciscgedeon9237 4 місяці тому

      @@CommandT I last flew 1.2, let me spin up 1.3 and see if they changed anything
      The ground effect felt fine to me. 7% of what? and what is the dependency of the effect vs height above the ground? bc in real helicopters it changes in a non-linear fashion, from max just above the ground, to almost nothing at 1/3 of the rotor diameter, to nominal 0 at or above 1/2 rotor diameter. but you should deffo have to push down on the collective to be able to touch down, the feeling is like the heli just doesn't want to land.

    • @tobib2969
      @tobib2969 4 місяці тому

      @@franciscgedeon9237 the rotor is mounted at a height of approx 2.5 meter and a half diameter is about 4 meters ;)

    • @franciscgedeon9237
      @franciscgedeon9237 4 місяці тому

      @@tobib2969 that's correct, to me it feels OK flying it in DCS in terms of ground effect, didn't notice any issues. I only said anything about the skid friction values. Don't get me wrong, I like the mod, I appreciate the immense amount of work you guys put into it, there is no 2 ways about it. The only criticism I bring is hopefully seen as trying to help somewhat from the perspective of someone who flies helis in real life. Else, just ignore me, I'll go away eventually lol.

  • @PoochAndBoo
    @PoochAndBoo 3 місяці тому

    Can this be flown with a twist grip joystick? I have a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  3 місяці тому

      I mean you can try for sure!

  • @KyleCowden
    @KyleCowden 4 місяці тому

    Pilot on the right? I thought the Hughes was the one exception to right sided PIC.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      I think the civilian versions of the OH-6, the helicopter pilot is on the left

  • @wowbird1234567
    @wowbird1234567 3 місяці тому

    Which vr stock?

  • @cashas6969
    @cashas6969 2 місяці тому

    whenever i try to rearm the chopper the ground crew never replies

  • @dunbar555
    @dunbar555 4 місяці тому

    we need some vibrations in the stick for helicopters with the FFBeast. really prevent me from flying helicopters right now having such a dead stick compared to the Rhino

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      Well according to real heli pilots there shouldn’t be any vibrations in the stick, unless something has gone critically wrong!

  • @Claude_Terrier
    @Claude_Terrier 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. Now, what about going back to the grocery to buy some milk? 😉

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  3 місяці тому

      It’s happening 😁

  • @gregsutton2400
    @gregsutton2400 Місяць тому

    Jeep is a 151 Ford Mutt.

  • @Nick-vq2in
    @Nick-vq2in 11 днів тому

    the skins aren’t showing up does anyone know why?

  • @hornetj3777
    @hornetj3777 2 місяці тому

    Does this helicopter support FFB ?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 місяці тому

      Yep.

    • @hornetj3777
      @hornetj3777 2 місяці тому

      @@CommandT I plan on buying MOZA AB9 FFB. Can you recommend any settings or a profile etc, because i assume there will not be any official support for mods in DCS.

  • @bassjunki
    @bassjunki 4 місяці тому

    Ever consider its bouncing due to the curve and that it's not actually "zero collective?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +1

      No, that’s not the reason. You always have to transition through that region when lowering the collective after touch down. And as you can see the bounces happen not when my collective of fully down.

  • @phil73805
    @phil73805 4 місяці тому

    FYI the skidding issue is a DCS problem. Ground friction in DCS is very poor.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      Sure but not anywhere near an issue in the Huey and that also has skids

    • @phil73805
      @phil73805 4 місяці тому

      @@CommandT I know but the Kiowa is really terrible, you need way too much back cyclic to stop from sliding forwards and even then it often does. It is an issue in DCS and seems to have a variable effect across platforms.

  • @ben1869
    @ben1869 4 місяці тому

    Best mod IMO is the Hercules. Man, you can drop 30 parachuters out of a plane YOU are flying.

  • @bestofjetz
    @bestofjetz 4 місяці тому

    which part of marianas is that

    • @shitpost4204
      @shitpost4204 4 місяці тому

      It's the custom fob for the instant action missions that come with the mod

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      It’s one of the more northern islands that has no settlements except a grass airstrip

    • @bestofjetz
      @bestofjetz 4 місяці тому

      @@CommandT thanks

  • @marswor
    @marswor 4 місяці тому +13

    lol a4 leaves this mod in the dust if we're talking bout the best mod ever (so far), oh6 is good but not on the same level as a4..

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +2

      The external model and texturing on the A4 is not as good. This actually looks like it could be from Razbam. But obviously it’s a much simpler machine than the A4

  • @amygdala9857
    @amygdala9857 4 місяці тому

    id say the Gazelle hovers better, and the BO-105 certainly will, fixed rotor blades are great for hovering

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +1

      Looking forward to the BO-105 for sure!!

    • @blasterml
      @blasterml 4 місяці тому

      @@CommandT may they release it before my retirement.

    • @sahhull
      @sahhull 3 місяці тому

      The Gazelle is still janky.
      The Hind and KA50 give the most realistic helicopter experience in DCS.
      I fly helicopters IRL.

  • @K1NGM4S1V
    @K1NGM4S1V Місяць тому

    thats a Ford Mutt m-151a1 version not a Willys

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому

      Oooooooh 🫡👍

  • @Spindrift-m8n
    @Spindrift-m8n 3 місяці тому

    The shorter the rotor diameter, the less ground affect …….

  • @TheALEXMOTO
    @TheALEXMOTO 4 місяці тому +1

    Попробовал я этот мод и мне показалось что авторы мода решили что вертолёт должен весить 2 или 3 килограмма :)

    • @NyteStalker89
      @NyteStalker89 4 місяці тому +2

      If you're complaining about the amount of thrust and the chopper feeling light, then you're finding the wrong things to complain about. The OH-6 was and is a chopper that has a high thrust to weight ratio. It's partly why it was selected for it's role in Vietnam and why it's still in use today with US SF and other nations in the same capacity. It is a light chopper by nature which made it ideal for light attack and observation.

    • @ziepex7009
      @ziepex7009 4 місяці тому

      its a very light chopper tbf

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +2

      Не могу сказать, что я согласен. Чувствуется правильно по весу мне кажется!

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому +2

      Не могу сказать, что согласен. Чувствуется правильно по весу мне кажется.

  • @seance1253
    @seance1253 4 місяці тому

    blackhawk

    • @shitpost4204
      @shitpost4204 4 місяці тому

      Love the Blackhawk but it needs some serious work too. Both of these are the main vehicles I use in DCS

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  4 місяці тому

      This is not a Blackhawk 🤪

    • @seance1253
      @seance1253 4 місяці тому

      @@CommandT lol that's too bad lol. Personally I think that the Blackhawk is better, but to each his own 😁

    • @franciscgedeon9237
      @franciscgedeon9237 4 місяці тому

      when compared with real thing, the Mi8 has the most realistic flight model in DCS to this point. tested in sim used to certify Mi8 military pilots. DCS is factually a good trainer for that, and I don't mean systems only, but the actual flight model.

  • @speelangs7161
    @speelangs7161 3 місяці тому

    The A4 is by far the best mod. Has way more development than this.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  3 місяці тому

      Except the 3D model sucks by comparison I think

  • @RuggedBrotha
    @RuggedBrotha 3 місяці тому

    Is this a FREE Addon??

  • @nauvofact993
    @nauvofact993 3 місяці тому

    All helicopters from mods have an incorrect physical flight model. Can be used for training if you don’t know how to fly helicopters at all. But to control Huei or Mi 24, you will have to learn a lot and understand, in principle, what is difficult about flying helicopters in DCS. And these small helicopters from mods are controlled super simply and super unrealistically. Of these, the best is an old helicopter from Vietnam. It is at least somewhat difficult to fly.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  3 місяці тому

      I believe your statement is not very accurate regarding the OH-6 in many ways. I haven’t flown the real thing though so obviously can’t know for sure

    • @tobib2969
      @tobib2969 3 місяці тому

      How do you know?