What’s your take on this? I would love to hear from you in the comments. This will be my final video on this topic… Unless the Archbishop formally excommunicates them.
Thank you for your video brother. May God bless His Church in what seems to be Her passion as She will be crucified. Normally I would dismiss such messages from such ‘mystics’ unless it’s gone through decades of official scrutiny by proper Church authorities. But this is not really an unprecedented thing. Truth is often uncomfortable when it goes against worldly desires. God usually exhausts all natural ways to send His messages in this case the Catholic Church doctrine and dogmas-It’s immutable and infallible teachings. But when prelates fail to faithfully embody and spread these teachings for far too long. God hears the cry of the just and sends chastisements to give the people who’ve been corrupted a chance to repent and make reparations. If that goes unanswered by the faithful who’ve fallen astray then he’ll send a very few holy people to signal a last call to repentance. Remember that Sacraments bind us but God can choose to go beyond it to save souls and restore His Church. Our Lord Jesus himself was quick to rebuke St. Peter upon hearing his response regarding His coming Passion. Calling St. Peter ‘Satan’/Tempter at that moment. It shows how God doesn’t tolerate lukewarm faith. We are witnessing an unfolding of evil in the Church where its very prelates are selling out parts of the Body of Christ, His Church to the world. Hacking Him to pieces for that 30 pieces of silver like Judas did. We are to love God with all our heart, mind and being. The Catholic Church is going through Her passion and things will only get much worse really fast. But God is always in control no matter what. “Father, why have you forsaken me?” is the cry from the very depths of the tainted human soul that Our Lord Jesus himself cried out as He took upon himself all our sins. We just have to see through these darkest of times growing further in faith as God’s love purifies His Church and His people for its purification into holiness.
Thank you for addressing this. There is a small minority of people who agree with you that used to go to the mission. I read the comments of the UA-cam video where he talks about this and they were 95% supportive. And it just made me sad.
you make a good point. If you truly believe these messages are authentic, then you’re gonna believe that God is telling you that room is an apostasy. It’s hard not to wanna listen to that. But we know that the devil can come as an angel of light like he’s mentioned the second letter of Corinthians. And we know the devil wants to sow division and this is exactly why any message no matter who it’s from on this planet needs to be authenticated.
Fr. John Mary and MDM appealed to the AB for seven years to investigate the messages, including giving them more than 100 pages of documentation concerning them. The AB wasn’t interested, brushed them off, and did not perform his responsibility of due diligence and investigate. No one was assigned to “the case,” as is protocol. MDM was hoping for that. The AB was more interested in discussing their land holdings. This is not difficult to figure out.
It’s a valid question Gregory that you bring up. I love the mission and I love everybody involved in it but I feel what they’re doing is wrong and I pray for them.
I totally understand why people would want to believe in these messages. And I don’t think you or I are saying that these messages are not necessarily authentic. But they should be investigated. And anyone who denies that any private Revelation should be investigated is definitely drinking the Kool-Aid.
Exactly. They could be authentic, but maybe they’re not. If you’re in the middle of this, you can’t be objective after I get that the Archbishop might be corrupt, and I get that room might be an apostasy, but somebody has to vet these visions.
MDM are not sedevacantists. Fr. JM often refers to the writings of Pope JPII and has an image of him close to the alter in St. Joseph’s Chapel. MDM has already answered that question loud and clear.
Maybe Father John Mary has mentioned it in one of the videos, but does he believe somebody should vet these messages? Surely, if some random stranger came to him and told him that this person was receiving visions from God and Mary, he would be at least a little skeptical. So why would this be any different? I don’t think it’s too much to ask for an authoritative entity to make sure that these messages are authentic.
I would agree with that. Someone has the authority and it can't be the person receiving them or the person who has the nominal leadership over the organization. Too much conflict of interest.
From what I have heard from the post of the mission, the Bishop did nothing to investigage the "messages". Seems the "Bishop" is more interested in making the mission public, than investigating the locutions. Since this has been going on for 7 years, how long is Fr. John suppose to stay silent?
The point you brought up about the Sandevacantist calling you liberal, Marxist sellout or whatever else derogatory from groups like 'VaticanCatholics' really resonates with me. I have felt similar experience from numerous Catholics who treat Lutherans like me or other Protestants liberal marxist in spite of the fact that our hearts yearn for authentic Orthodoxy. Confessional Lutheran Churches are even moving back to fixed altars and TLM like liturgies.
Agreed. Did you know they asked the Bishop to invesigate the messages starting in 2017. Then never even interviewed her. Fr. John has been very transparent IMHO.
Fr JM has asked the mr Siller to look into the messages and mr. Siller has completely refused to do so. Bind and unbind?....the leadership in rome just said that all religions lead to GOD...how in the world did he just dethrone Jesus. GOD bless our MDM!
Well stated. As a "local" who was drawn to MDM and frequently attended Mass, it saddens me tremendously that I cannot, in good conscience, continue to participate. Until such time (if ever) an official investigation and proclamation is made, regardless of any apparent reasons (as you state) the messages are believable, our fidelity must be to the Church and not MDM. Hubris and gross disobedience of Church authority, for me , are the biggest red flags. Better for Sister and MDM to suffer these messages privately in silence and obedience to the Church then to lead the faithful into schism. They've removed Pope Francis from the Eucharistic prayer because they believe he is a usurper. So - who is occupying the Chair of Peter? Isn't that sedevacantist? The message regarding Pope Francis as a usurper was directed to the Bishops asserting that they have allowed him to claim the throne of Peter yet it is the conclave of Cardinals (none of whom have dissented) who elected Francis. Good or bad, like him or not, we have a Pope and God is not asleep at the wheel.
What’s your take on this? I would love to hear from you in the comments. This will be my final video on this topic… Unless the Archbishop formally excommunicates them.
I love your little channel. You bring Comal County Catholics a good name
Thank you for your video brother. May God bless His Church in what seems to be Her passion as She will be crucified. Normally I would dismiss such messages from such ‘mystics’ unless it’s gone through decades of official scrutiny by proper Church authorities. But this is not really an unprecedented thing. Truth is often uncomfortable when it goes against worldly desires. God usually exhausts all natural ways to send His messages in this case the Catholic Church doctrine and dogmas-It’s immutable and infallible teachings. But when prelates fail to faithfully embody and spread these teachings for far too long. God hears the cry of the just and sends chastisements to give the people who’ve been corrupted a chance to repent and make reparations. If that goes unanswered by the faithful who’ve fallen astray then he’ll send a very few holy people to signal a last call to repentance. Remember that Sacraments bind us but God can choose to go beyond it to save souls and restore His Church. Our Lord Jesus himself was quick to rebuke St. Peter upon hearing his response regarding His coming Passion. Calling St. Peter ‘Satan’/Tempter at that moment. It shows how God doesn’t tolerate lukewarm faith.
We are witnessing an unfolding of evil in the Church where its very prelates are selling out parts of the Body of Christ, His Church to the world. Hacking Him to pieces for that 30 pieces of silver like Judas did. We are to love God with all our heart, mind and being. The Catholic Church is going through Her passion and things will only get much worse really fast. But God is always in control no matter what. “Father, why have you forsaken me?” is the cry from the very depths of the tainted human soul that Our Lord Jesus himself cried out as He took upon himself all our sins. We just have to see through these darkest of times growing further in faith as God’s love purifies His Church and His people for its purification into holiness.
Thank you for addressing this. There is a small minority of people who agree with you that used to go to the mission. I read the comments of the UA-cam video where he talks about this and they were 95% supportive. And it just made me sad.
I’m one of them. And I see a lot of the other ones at Saints, Peter and Paul on Sundays now.
i do miss the choir...not so much his long sometimes meandering homilies. LOL
I hate the music at SPP. I miss the MDM
you make a good point. If you truly believe these messages are authentic, then you’re gonna believe that God is telling you that room is an apostasy. It’s hard not to wanna listen to that. But we know that the devil can come as an angel of light like he’s mentioned the second letter of Corinthians. And we know the devil wants to sow division and this is exactly why any message no matter who it’s from on this planet needs to be authenticated.
precisely, we are not saying these messages are demonic, but we must eliminate ALL considerations
Fr. John Mary and MDM appealed to the AB for seven years to investigate the messages, including giving them more than 100 pages of documentation concerning them. The AB wasn’t interested, brushed them off, and did not perform his responsibility of due diligence and investigate. No one was assigned to “the case,” as is protocol. MDM was hoping for that. The AB was more interested in discussing their land holdings. This is not difficult to figure out.
The archbishop would love to get his filthy paws on the real estate, he's just another novus ordo apostate!
It’s a valid question Gregory that you bring up. I love the mission and I love everybody involved in it but I feel what they’re doing is wrong and I pray for them.
I totally understand why people would want to believe in these messages. And I don’t think you or I are saying that these messages are not necessarily authentic. But they should be investigated. And anyone who denies that any private Revelation should be investigated is definitely drinking the Kool-Aid.
Exactly. They could be authentic, but maybe they’re not. If you’re in the middle of this, you can’t be objective after I get that the Archbishop might be corrupt, and I get that room might be an apostasy, but somebody has to vet these visions.
MDM are not sedevacantists. Fr. JM often refers to the writings of Pope JPII and has an image of him close to the alter in St. Joseph’s Chapel. MDM has already answered that question loud and clear.
Glory be to the Father who created me, the Son who redeemed me and the Spirit who sanctifies me.
Maybe Father John Mary has mentioned it in one of the videos, but does he believe somebody should vet these messages? Surely, if some random stranger came to him and told him that this person was receiving visions from God and Mary, he would be at least a little skeptical. So why would this be any different? I don’t think it’s too much to ask for an authoritative entity to make sure that these messages are authentic.
I would agree with that. Someone has the authority and it can't be the person receiving them or the person who has the nominal leadership over the organization. Too much conflict of interest.
good point
From what I have heard from the post of the mission, the Bishop did nothing to investigage the "messages". Seems the "Bishop" is more interested in making the mission public, than investigating the locutions. Since this has been going on for 7 years, how long is Fr. John suppose to stay silent?
I really loved to going to mass at the mission. Loved in past tense. Since they went schismatic I know longer can go.
me too
we all must follow our conscience
Well since the pope says all religions are a path to God. They’ll be fine….right?
The Sedevacanta movement is growing and growing. They have their arguments and Pope Francis does'nt help the situation
It is not prudent to try to decide anything now. Wait, keep your faith in the Church, and observe the fruits of this.
Trust in Jesus.
well-said
The point you brought up about the Sandevacantist calling you liberal, Marxist sellout or whatever else derogatory from groups like 'VaticanCatholics' really resonates with me.
I have felt similar experience from numerous Catholics who treat Lutherans like me or other Protestants liberal marxist in spite of the fact that our hearts yearn for authentic Orthodoxy. Confessional Lutheran Churches are even moving back to fixed altars and TLM like liturgies.
Thank you for sharing
Perhaps they have or will allow Sister to undergo medical and psychological evaluations by the Vatican. If they don't, it looks bad.
Agreed. Did you know they asked the Bishop to invesigate the messages starting in 2017. Then never even interviewed her. Fr. John has been very transparent IMHO.
this is why Francis has called out the US trads b/c their is a strand of sedevecantism in many of the trad communities.
Fr JM has asked the mr Siller to look into the messages and mr. Siller has completely refused to do so. Bind and unbind?....the leadership in rome just said that all religions lead to GOD...how in the world did he just dethrone Jesus. GOD bless our MDM!
Which videos address that Pope Francis is a userpeer? Thank you!
It's hard not to listen to God. LMAO....but how do you know 100% that it is God? The kids at Garabandal believed they saw the blessed mother
@@thecopticmonk9423 and Padre Pio believed the kids at Garabandal. That's good enough for me, anyway.
Who is paying you?
Nobody. I make nothing for Doing this channel.
Well stated. As a "local" who was drawn to MDM and frequently attended Mass, it saddens me tremendously that I cannot, in good conscience, continue to participate. Until such time (if ever) an official investigation and proclamation is made, regardless of any apparent reasons (as you state) the messages are believable, our fidelity must be to the Church and not MDM. Hubris and gross disobedience of Church authority, for me , are the biggest red flags. Better for Sister and MDM to suffer these messages privately in silence and obedience to the Church then to lead the faithful into schism. They've removed Pope Francis from the Eucharistic prayer because they believe he is a usurper. So - who is occupying the Chair of Peter? Isn't that sedevacantist? The message regarding Pope Francis as a usurper was directed to the Bishops asserting that they have allowed him to claim the throne of Peter yet it is the conclave of Cardinals (none of whom have dissented) who elected Francis. Good or bad, like him or not, we have a Pope and God is not asleep at the wheel.
Thank you so much for sharing